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Helmuth:
Happy Thanksgiving to all participants, have a great weekend everyone.
- 24.3.22.21 - Tuesday, November 25, 2003 at 10:25:08 (UTC)

Ridy:
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL the Plauderzimmer participants south of the border
and for all of you who are travelling to be with your loved ones on this holiday, have a safe trip!
- 64.229.238.121 - Wednesday, November 26, 2003 at 22:50:29 (UTC)

Paul B.:
A happy Thanksgiving to all from Adie & Paul. North, South, East & West & wherever! Don't forget the Bromo & Alka Seltzer!!!! Gobble, Gobble!!!!!
- 68.194.42.188 - Wednesday, November 26, 2003 at 23:23:18 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
- 64.12.96.107 - Wednesday, November 26, 2003 at 23:28:11 (UTC)

Trix:
HAPPY THANKSGIVING to one and all. Enjoy a day filled with friends and family, laughter, sharing and thanksgiving. I plan to do the same.
- 209.240.245.98 - Thursday, November 27, 2003 at 15:07:54 (UTC)

Fridl:
Happy Thanksgiving and a safe Holiday from Fridl and Glendale.
- 68.161.181.213 - Thursday, November 27, 2003 at 18:37:41 (UTC)

Fridl:
Happy Thanksgiving and a safe Holiday from Fridl and Glendale. NY.
- 68.161.181.213 - Thursday, November 27, 2003 at 18:41:14 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Thanksgiving wishes to all.
- 205.188.209.73 - Friday, November 28, 2003 at 03:16:18 (UTC)

Regina G.:
It is nine thirty here in Kamloops, Canada, Thursday. Hope all had a good Thanksgiving day. We are moooving to the other end of the city, on Sat. 29th. It will be a big change for us, we have lived in this house for 32 years so now to get used to a new home I will probable be walking into the wrong room to get things and the kitchen! wow wait til I navigate in the cupboards and can't find anything.
Well I shall get back to all when my computer is hooked up in the new place. God Bless.
- 24.67.253.204 - Friday, November 28, 2003 at 05:39:06 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Fridl: 1st time on the Plauderzimmer? Welcome...I used to live on 64thLane in Glendale,near Cooper Ave. My wife Adeline jaklitsch also lived on 64th Lane..Have a nice weekend.
- 68.194.42.188 - Friday, November 28, 2003 at 21:09:24 (UTC)

fridl:
HiPaul I live on 64th PLace of COOPER.
- 68.161.182.126 - Saturday, November 29, 2003 at 15:41:48 (UTC)

fridl:
HiPaul I live on 64th PLace of COOPER.S 1957.
- 68.161.182.126 - Saturday, November 29, 2003 at 15:47:55 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hello Fridl-You are just a couple of blocks away from where we lived..My father had a candy store on the corner of 64thLane and Cooper. Have you been there long?
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, November 29, 2003 at 18:00:19 (UTC)

Paul B.:
FRidl, I just noticed that you have been there since 1957.We came ti=o Glendale in 1940. My wife was living there since she was a little child. We married in 1942 and moved to 68th Ave off fresh Pond by the train station. I loved Glendale,but moved out in 1952 to go into business further out on the island...Have a nice weekend Fridl-I will try to be on the PZ Sunday night when the official chat takes place...Have a nice weekend...You will find many nice people on the Plauderzimmer...
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, November 29, 2003 at 18:07:26 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all are well and finally done with leftover turkey. Chiefs squeaked by again today. Wondering how KC sports writers will blast them in tomorrow morning's paper???
- 171.75.239.121 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:09:05 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Fridl. Glad you could join us. My relatives lived near the Gottscheer Club house . My aunt and uncle, Hermann and Anna Lackner, once managed the club. Maybe you knew them?? I live in KCMO and there are lots of us Gottscheers here. My married name is Murphy, but I log on as Jonke, my maiden name. My father's family came from Kumerdorf.
- 171.75.239.121 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:13:01 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Margaret!
Did you ever find out for me what Marie Wolf's maiden name was?
- 64.229.235.10 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:17:51 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Marie's maiden name was Mausser. There were 4 or 5 sisters and 1 brother, Frank Mausser, who passed away about 4 months ago in Brooklyn or somewhere near there. He and his wife, Pepi, once were managers of the Gottscheer club
there. No one in the family is living now. Anna Mausser was my aunt by marriage. SHe married my Uncle William Jonke.
- 171.75.239.121 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:24:20 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig-Tramposh:
Hi Margaret, good to see a fellow KC Gottscheer.
- 68.86.80.195 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:26:23 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig-Tramposh:
Margaret--were you born in Gottschee or the states?
- 68.86.80.195 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:27:19 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Thanks, Margaret! I appreciate that! My mother was a Mausser as well but I don't think they were related.
- 64.229.235.10 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:27:22 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Greg: I live north of the river in KC North. WHere do you live? There was a Tramposh family living in Guardian ANgels parish in Westport, when I was growing up. Are you part of that family?
- 171.75.239.121 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:27:51 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig-Tramposh:
Margaret I believe so. I had a couple great uncle's who lived in that area. I myself live in Blue Springs.
- 68.86.80.195 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:29:42 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Greg: I was born in KCMO. My father and his family (Jonkes or Yonkes) came from Kumerdorf. My grandmother (olma) was a Jonke before AND after marriage. Quite a common name, I understand. Oma was born in Lichtenbach.
- 171.75.239.121 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:29:50 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig-Tramposh:
Margaret I am organizing a small family reunion for next June here in KC and was thinking of having a Gottscheer guest come and talk about the life and traditions of Gottschee. None of my relatives that will be attending have any idea about Gottschee.
- 68.86.80.195 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:33:09 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:

Greg: Typo in my last remark. Oma (grandmother). My mother's parents came from Bavaria. That grandma we called grossmutter.
- 171.75.239.121 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:34:02 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig-Tramposh:
I've heard of Bavaria. Is it a country or is that by chance in Germany?
- 68.86.80.195 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:35:58 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Greg: Wish there was a KC Gottscheer relative that I could recommend as a resource person, but none are in town. My only contact would be a "near cousin" who came oveer at age 7 and doesn't remember Gottschee, as they were moved during the umseidlung(?) to Austria. No help there sorry.
- 171.75.239.121 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:37:07 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Greg: Bavaria is in Germany.
- 171.75.239.121 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:38:32 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Greg: Bavaria is in Germany.
- 171.75.239.121 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:38:33 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Greg: Maybe Trix or Ridy can put you in touch with someone near KC through the membership list?? Sorry I am not much help.
- 171.75.239.121 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:40:49 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig-Tramposh:
That's okay. I will look into it further come next spring.
- 68.86.80.195 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:41:47 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Sorry, but I must say auf wiedersehen. Work to do, before bedtime. Bleib gesund.
- 171.75.239.121 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:42:53 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Sorry, but I must say auf wiedersehen. Work to do, before bedtime. Bleib gesund.
- 171.75.239.121 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:42:54 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:

greg: One last remark. My father, Leo Yonke, owned the Yonke Furniture Studio on Westport Rd. for 40 years. Repair and restoration of antiques. He learned his cabinet making trade in Kumerdorf. Have you heard of the Yonke Furniture Studio, by any chance??
- 171.75.239.121 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:44:20 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig-Tramposh:
I myself haven't but I'm sure my mother will know it. I also went to school with a family of Yonke's, at Shawnee Mission North High School. I believe their father was in police work of some kind.
- 68.86.80.195 - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 02:47:47 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I hope St. Nikolaus is very generous with his gifts to you tonight, and that the Krampus doesn't come anywhere near you if you've been bad this past year!
- 64.229.238.72 - Friday, December 05, 2003 at 15:37:41 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Ridy, The Krampus is here!-Dumping snow like crazy.At this moment taking only our own particular situation into consideration(like my son getting home safely in his big truck) And my musician son who has not called since he left early today in this weather -all I can say just now is BAH HUMBUG!!!
- 68.194.42.188 - Friday, December 05, 2003 at 22:41:25 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hey Folks,How about a state to state reportOn the snow situation? Ridy, how about Canada? Our village of bethpage in Nassau County on the island has a late report of 9 inches of the white stuff so far-that's to say nothing about the drifts what with the gale winds we are experiancing.......I am sure Trix has more than all of us in Wakenabou--Did I spell that right trix???
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, December 06, 2003 at 23:32:15 (UTC)

Ridy:
Sorry to disappoint you, Paul, but there's no snow in Toronto and none in the forecast. It's not exactly warm - just under the freezing point - but for once you really can't blame us for sending you the snow - it didn't make it north of the border in this region. Don't worry, we'll get our share before the winter is over. Don't forget - we think of Toronto as being in the banana belt region! Of course, that doesn't make much sense, because we don't grow bananas up here. We sure do eat a lot of them though!
- 64.229.238.46 - Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 00:10:27 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Funny you should mention bananas.I just threw 2 of them away today. We went to do our pre storm shopping and bought a ton of stuff,knowing that there would be no Bella Napoli with the storm. The produce guy says to Adie that the bananas ripened on their way to the store this time, and she bought them any way-Ugh! They were black as coal! Now just think of the possible disaster-had I been a pregnant women and had a gieger (spelling?) for bananas-God forbid, my baby may have been born with a banana nose! Just a bit of winter humor there..
- 68.194.42.188 - Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 00:33:53 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Hi Paul, Ridy, and all. Here in Western PA it started snowing late Friday and continued into Saturday. Total about 10 inches. We still have lots of snow on the ground but it didn't stop my son Tommy and me (and hundreds of other runners) from running a 5K race this morning (3.1 miles), this was his first race and he did great. Benefitted the Marines' Toys for Tots.

I prepared for the race by shoveling the driveway twice!
- 24.3.22.21 - Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 15:51:50 (UTC)

Paul B.:
God love you Helmuth & family--keep up the good work-way to go.I admire you, as I am sure all of us on the PZ do as well...
- 68.194.42.188 - Sunday, December 07, 2003 at 19:28:40 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. I'm ashamed to say I'm from KC after the Chiefs got romped on by Denver. I can't wait to see how the local sports writers treat them tomorrow. One of the Chiefs made some critical remarks about the Broncos and their head coach, so maybe we deserved the shellacking.
- 67.74.22.201 - Monday, December 08, 2003 at 01:50:14 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Sorry. Need to log off. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 67.74.22.201 - Monday, December 08, 2003 at 02:03:50 (UTC)

Meditz Hans:
Ich suche ein guterhaltenes Foto Der Kirche von Untertappelwerch.Wer kann mir weiter helfen.?
- 81.62.77.165 - Monday, December 08, 2003 at 13:24:11 (UTC)

Meditz Hans:
Ich suche ein guterhaltenes Foto Der Kirche von Untertappelwerch.Wer kann mir weiter helfen.?
- 81.62.77.165 - Monday, December 08, 2003 at 13:25:47 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Dear Hans,

Try "google.com" and enter Gottschee with picture, photo, or photograph. You will get over 300 results.
- 152.163.252.1 - Monday, December 08, 2003 at 14:53:24 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Hey Margaret, the Chiefs are still a great team. You could be living here and have to endure the Steelers getting beat up like crazy this year. By Cleveland among others!!! Sorry Cleveland Gottscheers.
- 24.3.22.21 - Tuesday, December 09, 2003 at 18:41:15 (UTC)

:
Helmuth:
Thank you for those nice words about the Chiefs. The KC Sportswriters were unmerciful Monday morning. Too bad the sports nuts expect perfection.
- 65.57.24.98 - Tuesday, December 09, 2003 at 19:15:00 (UTC)

Rev. Ted Staudacher:
Watched the Kansas City Chiefs get shallached by the Denver Broncos. They just didn't seem to have the "geist" to win - oh well, they still have a chance with their record! GO CHIEFS!
- 24.247.19.105 - Wednesday, December 10, 2003 at 20:27:21 (UTC)

John Tschinkel:
Hans Meditz,
Nach Mitja Ferenc in seinem : "Das Verlorene Kulturerbe der Gottscheer Deutschen", das gasamte Dorf Untertappelwerch mitsamt Filialkirche des Hl. Peter und Paul, verlassen in der Umsiedlung, wurde in den folgenden Kriegsjahren vollkommen zerstoert und die Ruinen als Baumaterial verwendet. Vielleicht finden Sie ein Foto im Kocevski Museum in Kocevje.
- 205.188.208.136 - Thursday, December 11, 2003 at 02:11:02 (UTC)

Paul B.:
You all have a very nice weekend now...
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, December 13, 2003 at 05:19:47 (UTC)

Trix:
The same to you Paul. Stay warm.

- 216.251.169.31 - Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 03:24:23 (UTC)

:
The name "BANANA BELT"Can only apply to VANCOUVER Canada I am happy to inform one and all.
- 66.119.174.65 - Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 21:58:25 (UTC)

Franz.:
Forgot to mentoin my name.
- 66.119.174.65 - Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 21:59:57 (UTC)

Ridy:
Today I will absolutely agree with you, Franz! We are having our first real snowfall and we now have at least an inch already - which is an inch more snow than I like. Our temperatures, however, are rising above freezing again, so this one won't last. :-) Of course, I can't speak for other places in Ontario - like Kitchener, for example. . . . .
- 64.229.253.123 - Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 23:23:34 (UTC)

Ridy:
You're the Vancouver Franz, not the Chicago Franz - right?
- 64.229.253.123 - Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 23:26:19 (UTC)

Franz of vancouver:
Hi Ridy o I just had to brag a little yes it has been not too bad so far not cold but I tell you we are not lacking water it is coming down in buckets again oh spoke to soon it just quit . Thanks for everything Ridy. see you out west yes?
- 66.119.174.75 - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 00:03:19 (UTC)

Erna Cerne:
Dear Gerry Studier: I am so happy to have a friend like Trix of Minnesota who noticed your message and forwarded same to me. Please contact me at aecerne@aol.com. Erna Verderber Cerne. Thank you, Trix.
- 152.163.253.36 - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 01:35:22 (UTC)

Franz of?:
Griass ei Goett olle Goetscheabare, bia giats heint noech?
- 172.155.76.179 - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 02:12:32 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all are well and ready for Xmas. Our Chiefs did a number on Detroit today.
- 171.75.205.38 - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 02:14:15 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Rev. Ted: Where do you live? I'm so happy that you are a Chiefs fan. We're pretty proud of our team this year. Other years have been tough. Vermeil is a great coach. He hugs the players all the time--like a grandfather.
- 171.75.205.38 - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 02:24:08 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Hate to log on and run away so quickly, but duty calls in the form of laundry and dishes. We will be getting more snow Tuesday. 3rd storm in a week. We're really not used to this white stuff. Auf weidersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 171.75.205.38 - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 02:26:44 (UTC)

Trix:
Greetings from Minnesota. Hope you are all well and enjoying this special time of the year. Where is everyone?
- 216.251.169.4 - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 03:51:51 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello from NJ. We have had our second snowfall this winter and it is not even winter yet. I might as well be in Minnesota. The Chiefs, and the Cowboys did what they had to do yesterday but the Vikings are doing their best to blow it. They statistically dominated the Bears but found a way to lose.
On a different note, is anyone familiar with the town name of Malilog. I could not find it on the Gottschee map (which has both German and Slovene variations). Nothing important but just interested since I have seen it on the Ellis Island site with Gottscheer appearing names.
- 152.163.253.69 - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 14:16:44 (UTC)

Trix:
You are right about the Vikings, Dr. Jim. Will have the pleasure of attending the Vikings - KC game next Saturday. Am keeping my fingers crossed.

Regarding Malilog. No doubt it is spelled wrong, don't you think? Hope someone responds.

We have a gray, dreary and cloudy day but not much snow. Can't complain.

Everyone, enjoy a good Monday.
- 216.251.169.37 - Monday, December 15, 2003 at 17:08:31 (UTC)

SR:
Looking for Krisch family history. Charlotte Wilhemina Krisch married Charles Friedrich Kamradt (where East Persia?). Both born abt 1860 in ???town, East Persia.
Brother of Charlotte= Richard Krisch. Mother Catherine (nee?) Krisch Grabowska b East Persia abt 1830-40?? Sister of Charlotte= Mary Grabowska. Son of Charlotte and Friedrich Kamaradt who was born in Germany= Otto J Kamradt.

Is there anyone in that area that may be kin to any of the above named persons? If so, please contact me at ssstlr@plateautel.net. Thanks a lot. SR
- 65.247.144.107 - Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 06:09:18 (UTC)

John T.:
SR:
East Persia is more likely "East Prussia", in north-east Germany, near Poland. Therefore Grabowska, a Polish name.
Look in "Google". Type in Kamradt. You will find many Kamradt's listed.

- 152.163.252.198 - Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 02:24:24 (UTC)

Frieda Stalzer:
Does anycne know Marie Meditz (maiden name Pitzel). She lived in Neuberg (by Tschermoschnitz). She married Franz Meditz in Tappelwerch. I do not know the date.
- 12.221.41.131 - Saturday, December 20, 2003 at 19:07:52 (UTC)

Trix:
Frieda. I believe I might be able to help you regard Marie Meditz. Please send me an e-mail to my home at wyants@mlecmn.net.

Look forward to hearing from you.
Sophia Stalzer Wyant born near Tschermoschnitz, as of 1952
Minnesota

Frohe Weinachten.
- 216.251.169.164 - Sunday, December 21, 2003 at 04:50:20 (UTC)

Gerhard Samide:
Liebe Gottscheer, Liebe Freunde im Plauderzimmer!
W�nsche Euch Allen Merry Christmas und ein friedvolles Jahr 2004.
Liebe Gr��e aus �sterreich Euch und Euren Familien

Gerhard

- 62.218.156.150 - Sunday, December 21, 2003 at 21:13:36 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Adie and I want to take this opportunity to wish everyone on the Plauderzimmer a Very Merry Christmas.Stay Safe-Stay Warm-Stay Healthy, and may the Good Lord watch over us all..
- 68.194.42.188 - Monday, December 22, 2003 at 00:06:07 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
From the Heimann family to the members of the chatroom -----Merry Christmas!!!! May it be a healthy, happy, and giving time for you and your families.
- 64.12.97.7 - Monday, December 22, 2003 at 00:55:55 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Frieda, are you sure about the first name for the husband? everything matches but I thought the first name was Andreas.
- 64.12.96.39 - Monday, December 22, 2003 at 00:57:04 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. What excuse can I give for our Chiefs??? They really humiliated themselves yesterday. Our sports writers are getting pretty angry. Is everyone well??
- 171.75.201.249 - Monday, December 22, 2003 at 01:58:02 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Hope everyone has a safe and happy holiday. We leave for Las Vegas Xmas morning. Will enjoy ourselves there on our 45th anniversary. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 171.75.201.249 - Monday, December 22, 2003 at 02:02:04 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Merry Christmas, everyone. We had our family Christmas today. 22 of us! I always enjoy the day and am glad when everyone goes home. lol Littest one, Katie, wanted to spend the night, and I told her she would have to wait until tomorrow. Gramma is ttttttttooooooooo tired.
- 198.81.26.175 - Monday, December 22, 2003 at 02:16:25 (UTC)

Trix:
Hey, Marilu, long time no hear. I can certainly identify with your last statement. This Gottscheerin is sooooo tired too.
- 216.251.169.136 - Monday, December 22, 2003 at 02:21:34 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Merry Christmas to all
- 199.243.152.200 - Monday, December 22, 2003 at 03:13:25 (UTC)

Trix:
The same to you Sharon and to all visitors to the Plauderzimmer not only from North America but from Europe too. May 2004 be a GREAT year for you and yours.
Fr�hliche Weihnachten von Familie Stalzer-Wyant von der Moschnitze und seit 1952 in Minnesota.
- 216.251.169.41 - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 02:55:53 (UTC)

Herbert Hutter:
Frohe Weinachten und ein Gesgnetes Neues Yahr wuensche ich
Gottscheern in aller Welt! Christ Der Retter ist da!!
Von Lueckisch Herbert aus Shealein (jetzt Cleveland Ohio)

- 209.81.165.195 - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 16:56:18 (UTC)

Herbert Hutter:
Franz of?
jo Franz'l due tuascht noech pesseor Gottscheabarisch schreibon bia ich, i pin in 1936 gepoarn, in Schealein,
von bue kimmeoscht du har? schreib insch noch aback a pese mehr. Froehoe Beinachtoen uend a Goescheagnatoes neioes yuehr.!
Ben due billscht konscht due doess schreiboen ausspessern.
Lueckisch Herbert, von Schealein.
- 209.81.165.195 - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 18:15:42 (UTC)

Trix:
Herbert - Bu bischt D� geborn? Schealein?? Bu ischt dos Dearfle? Ich bin a in 1936 geparn in der Moschnitze. Nua bin ich in Minnesota scheit 52.
- 209.240.245.144 - Wednesday, December 24, 2003 at 00:06:16 (UTC)

Gerhard Samide:
Hallo Herbert,
mein Urgro�vater Johann Samide war mit Maria Hutter verheiratet und wohnhaft in Schalkendorf Gottschee.
Zwei oder Drei Kinder dieser Beiden (Geschwiester meines Gro�vaters) sind um die Jahrhundertwende nach USA Ohio (Cleveland?) ausgewandert. Eines soll dabei bei der �berfahrt gestorben sein.
Liebe Weihnachtsgr��e
Gerhard

- 81.189.21.73 - Wednesday, December 24, 2003 at 12:28:36 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
To all Gottscheers who visit the Plauderzimmer from all corners of our world, I wish you a Christmas filled with peace, joy and friendship.

BAINOCHT

Biә schean ischt ahoaimә dә Bainocht gәban
Af Pakkhlain hot niәmont gәdenkhn,
khait�s Khristkind ischt uәrm af dә Barlt kham,
�s hot Vraintschoft �nt Vridn gәschenkhn.

WEIHNACHT

Wie sch�n einst daheim die Weihnachten waren
ans Schenken hat niemand gedacht.
Das Christkind selbst war arm nur geboren,
hat Freundschaft und Frieden uns allen gebracht.

By OSB Karl Schemitsch, Reintal
(copied from the current edition of the
GOTTSCHEER GEDENKST�TTE Graz-Maria Trost)

- 64.229.236.56 - Wednesday, December 24, 2003 at 12:53:35 (UTC)

Irene:
Merry christmas to all.
- 24.195.32.62 - Wednesday, December 24, 2003 at 16:10:12 (UTC)

Russell :
I like the picture that goes along with this. It's what happened when ont too many reporters came to interview Rudolph on Christmas Eve.
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/R/REINDEER_MISHAP?SITE=1010WINS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Frohe Weihnachten!
- 205.188.209.37 - Wednesday, December 24, 2003 at 19:44:36 (UTC)

Herbert:
Trix

Trix:
You sent me a Picture of the Umsiedlung, with Horses and wagons on the way to the railroad station in Gottschee,in Dec 1942.We came to Cleveland area in 52.
frohe Bainochton!
Lueckisch Herbert von Schealein (Seele)

- 209.81.165.189 - Wednesday, December 24, 2003 at 20:53:48 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Irene. Nice to hear from you. HOW ARE YOU? Hope the New Year will be a GREAT one for you and yours.
- 209.240.245.168 - Thursday, December 25, 2003 at 01:38:24 (UTC)

Helmuth:
...and to all, a good night!
- 24.3.22.21 - Thursday, December 25, 2003 at 04:37:27 (UTC)

Russell:
Easy for you to say. I went to midnight mass. Didn't get out until 1:45 am after mass and greeting fellow parishiners. I didn't get to bed until 2:30 am and now that I'm up again, I have to be at 10:30 am mass.

Sometimes being a member of the church choir is almost like going to work.
- 205.188.209.104 - Thursday, December 25, 2003 at 13:48:47 (UTC)

Trix:
WAY TO GO Russell. The Lord loves you and so do we. Have a GREAT Christmas Day and a marvelous 2004 and yes, KEEP SINGING!!!!
- 216.251.169.156 - Thursday, December 25, 2003 at 14:51:20 (UTC)

Hilde kobetitsch:
Merry Christmas to all and a Happy 2004
- 64.12.96.134 - Friday, December 26, 2003 at 02:47:36 (UTC)

Hilde kobetitsch:
Had a snowy Christmas in Cleveland, but it was beautiful. Just hope that next week for the New Years Eve Party it will be nice, this way the guests will not fret all night about getting home. Just cannot believe that it is almost the last day of 2003. Time just flies when one is having fun. Nochmals Viel Glueck und Segen fuers Neue Jahr 2004.

Hilde

- 64.12.96.40 - Friday, December 26, 2003 at 02:49:55 (UTC)

peter jonke:
m�chte gerne invormationen �ber unsere ahnen
- 81.189.18.70 - Friday, December 26, 2003 at 11:02:14 (UTC)

:
An Peter Jonke
- 64.229.236.56 - Friday, December 26, 2003 at 11:06:52 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Sorry - I'm having problems posting today and have no idea why....
Have been trying to post a message to Peter Jonke, asking him if he is looking for information on Gottscheers in general or on his own family in particular.
Hope everyone had a lovely Christmas. We've had no snow or rain in Toronto and the tempertures remain very mild. Not at all like Christmas, but winter has only just started, after all.
- 64.229.236.56 - Friday, December 26, 2003 at 11:15:53 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
An Peter Jonke:
W�nscht Du weiteres �ber die Herkunft der Gottscheer ausfindig zu machen, oder suchst Du Deine eigenen Familienahnen? Wir haben einige Mitglieder welche Dir bei der Ahnenforschung behilflich sein k�nnen. Hast Du die Namen, Geburtsdaten, und Geburtsorte Deiner Eltern, Gro�eltern? F�r den Anfang ist etwas mehr Information gebraucht. Waren sie, bez. Du, in Gottschee geboren? Der Name Jonke kommt ja oft unter den Gottscheern vor.

- 64.229.236.56 - Friday, December 26, 2003 at 11:30:19 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy day after Christmas everyone. I trust you all had a good day-hectic or otherwise...So it is one down and one to go....So now we wish everyone a happy and safe New Year Eve.. And a very happy-Healthy- Safe- Prosperous 2004 to all. Pray to god that the world will be a safer, better place.Pray for the innocent children especially....
- 68.194.42.188 - Friday, December 26, 2003 at 20:49:30 (UTC)

hilde Kobetitsch:
In the event I do not get to talk to any of you, have a Happy, healthy and blessed 2004.
From Hilde Kobetitsch and everyone here at the Cleveland Gottscheer Club. Hilde
- 64.12.96.44 - Sunday, December 28, 2003 at 02:56:22 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello to all. The last of the Christmas has passed. A short bit until New Year's and then the calorie carnage can stop. I hope everyone has had a wonderful Christmas holiday. I will try to stop by tonight. If not, have a Happy New Year.
- 64.12.96.170 - Sunday, December 28, 2003 at 16:47:12 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello to all. Is anyone wandering around in the room?
- 64.12.96.203 - Monday, December 29, 2003 at 02:25:28 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Since I am the last posting from some time ago, I guess everyone is occupied. Margaret is rejoicing in the Chiefs winning their last game, Trix is crushed because the Vikings found a way out of the playoffs and I am in-between since the Cowboys are in but the Vikings are out.
- 64.12.96.237 - Monday, December 29, 2003 at 02:27:17 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Well, it is very quiet in the room. Have a good week.

- 64.12.96.78 - Monday, December 29, 2003 at 02:38:36 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Everyone have a Happy New Year
- 199.243.152.176 - Monday, December 29, 2003 at 02:49:35 (UTC)

Ted Meditz:
To all Gottscheers, who visit the Plauderzimmer, I wish you a HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Ted Meditz (Neuberg by Tschermoschnitz) - Deutschland

- 216.251.169.135 - Monday, December 29, 2003 at 15:24:59 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
As another year draw to a close it is appropriate to reflect and share some thoughts:

a. First, THANK YOU for all the wonderful sharing, caring, entertaining and laughter that you have brought to this marvelous Gottscheer Plauderzimmer. Mr. Kump - Danke.

b. We are all busy individuals but in spite of it all, we give to causes that are near and dear to us. For me, among numerous others, Project Gottschee has been and continues to be a most enjoyable journey. It has been a pleasure to get to know all of you, to laugh with you, to learn from you and to appreciate you.

c. I continue to be challenged, motivated and excited about the preservation and/or restoration work being done in our former homeland Gottschee. Some have said, "what is the point. There is nothing left." I would have to disagree with that statement. The point is - Gottschee will always be my homeland, the place of my birth, the foundation of who I am. Besides, all is not gone - in fact, in my humble opinion, uite a bit survived the war and that deserves and needs to be honored and preserved. Let us remember that the Gottscheers, throughout their 630 year history not only "worked, lived and loved the land" but left a proud legacy of accomplishment for all of us to enjoy. The former Gottschee will continue to be a beautiful part in the southeast corner of Slovenia.

- 216.251.169.135 - Monday, December 29, 2003 at 15:53:07 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
d. THANK YOU to many of you who have generously supported the numerous fundraising efforts that daughter Maria and I have co-chaired. Your generosity is greatly appreciated. The most recent projects have included raising funds for:

- Rpairs to the church Maria Hilf in Rodine (dedicated this last September)with over 600 in attendance).

- The church, Maria Himmelfahrt in Tschermoschnitz, is getting a major overhaul. It will celebrate its 500 year anniversary in 2009. Mark the date on your calender. They are planning a huge celebration.

-The church in Mitterdorf by Tschermoschnitz is also getting a major new look.

Donations for the two pending projects will be most welcomed.

We have much to be grateful for and among the blessings is our Gottscheer heritage. Pass it on to your children and grandchildren. We have a proud legacy that must be shared with everyone.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!
- 216.251.169.135 - Monday, December 29, 2003 at 15:53:23 (UTC)

Edith Eisenk�lbl-Gliebe:
To all Gottscheers... I wish you a Happy New Year from Austria (Kapfenberg)
- 62.47.17.152 - Tuesday, December 30, 2003 at 15:27:29 (UTC)

Trix:
The same to you Edith as well as all Gottscheers in Steiermark. Keep up the good work.
- 209.240.237.155 - Tuesday, December 30, 2003 at 15:49:28 (UTC)

Trix:
Interesting posting. Can anyone help?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by Jane Collins on December 30, 2003 at 10:51:12:

I am trying to find any information possible on a Dorothy M Weber, born in 1912 or 1913(she was 17 years old on the 1930 census completed in April that year) Her parents were John and Annie M Weber, born approx. 1882 and 1885. I believe the census has John Weber listed as a furniture finisher. We believe that Dorothy M. Weber (who is most likely deceased now) is my friends biological mother and that a Father Marsh from St Matthias assisted in the adoption set-up. My friends mother is also recently deceased, but since she was seeking her biological family, her daughters want to continue the search. We thought that maybe some long-time Ridgewood residents might be able to offer some assistance. Thanks

- 209.240.237.155 - Tuesday, December 30, 2003 at 15:51:16 (UTC)

Hermann Leustik:
Ich w�nsche den Gottscheern in aller Welt einen guten Rutsch ins Jahr 2004, vor allem verbunden mit Gesundheit, Erfolg und Zufriedenheit ...

Ich darf auch darauf hinweisen, da� die Homepage der Gottscheer Arbeitsgemeinschaft - die Homepage f�r alle Gottscheer - ab sofort im Netz erreichbar ist!!!

http://www.gottschee.at

Hermann Leustik aus Klagenfurt (Austria)

- 143.205.77.16 - Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 13:00:52 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
CONGRATULATIONS to the Gottscheer group in Klagenfurt, Austria, for bringing us a new Gottscheer web site (http://www.gottschee.at) to keep us in touch with the Gottscheer community throughout the world and help us to learn more about our heritage. Some sections of it are still under construction and, unfortunately, for those of you who do not speak German, the English section is not yet online. However, there is a provision for an English section. Until the English version becomes available, I�m sure that any one of us who is fluent in both languages will be happy to assist you in reading it.
In the meantime, don�t forget to visit some of the other Gottscheer web sites, which have been generously made available to us by individuals and groups, in addition to this popular site, which is made available to us by Helmuth Kump.
armrpops.home.att.net/
www.gottschee.com
www.pipeline.com/~jbglad/Gottschee.html
www.gottschee.org/~ghga/ghga.htm
www.gottschee.net/
www.gottschee.de
http://www.gottschee.cc/
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/6711/
among many others.
Thanks to all of the above for all their work to keep our homeland, the homeland of our ancestors, alive for us in cyberspace.

- 64.229.235.25 - Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 14:31:46 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
I wish all of my friends on the plauderzimmer a safe and prosperous new year. God bless you all. Bleib gesund.
- 67.74.30.190 - Wednesday, December 31, 2003 at 16:35:55 (UTC)

Fridl:
To all I WICH YOU a Happy New Yer.Bleib gesund.fr New York and rusbach
- 68.161.178.159 - Thursday, January 01, 2004 at 18:04:59 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Hi Fridl. The same to you. Stay well and may 2004 be very good to you and yours.

Born near Tschermoschnitz. Would love to hear from you. My e-mail: wyants@mlecmn.net.
- 216.251.169.144 - Thursday, January 01, 2004 at 20:16:11 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
Olla Goetschabara in dr gonzn barld a gaschuendas uend glicklichas Neies Juar.
- 172.137.107.75 - Thursday, January 01, 2004 at 22:38:19 (UTC)

Ridy:
Ja Fronz, labәscht D� ah n�ch? I binsch dr a guatәs Naiәs Juhr, �nd himmlisch Attein�s reichischten Schәgn. Kahm tuә ah hin tugә worpei, bir schachәn Die sch� seltәn mehr.
- 64.229.233.236 - Thursday, January 01, 2004 at 23:34:16 (UTC)

:
Ridy, Uenkraeut vrdirbat et uend mischtvich vrschtirbet et.
- 152.163.252.1 - Friday, January 02, 2004 at 03:07:50 (UTC)

:
Ridy, Uenkraeut vrdirbat et uend mischtvich vrschtirbet et.
- 64.12.96.6 - Friday, January 02, 2004 at 09:18:55 (UTC)

:
Ridy, Uenkraeut vrdirbat et uend mischtvich vrschtirbet et.
- 152.163.252.1 - Friday, January 02, 2004 at 14:23:45 (UTC)

hilde kobetitsch:
Viel Glueck und Segen fuer das Neue Jahr 2004.
Wuenschen wir Euch allen in der Ganzen Welt

Hilde Kobetitsch und der EOUV - Gottscheer Klub in Cleveland, Ohio.

- 205.188.208.75 - Sunday, January 04, 2004 at 02:00:24 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, Hilde! Happy New Year to you and all the Cleveland clan.
- 205.188.209.71 - Monday, January 05, 2004 at 02:00:15 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. A thin coating of ice all over KCMO. Kind of like frosted doughnuts, but slippery. House-bound right now. A Happy New Year to all on the PZ.
- 171.75.214.250 - Monday, January 05, 2004 at 02:18:21 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Anyone on tonight? Must log off. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 171.75.214.250 - Monday, January 05, 2004 at 02:33:36 (UTC)

Jim:
Margareth, be careful of the ice. The cold weather should be hitting New Jersey by mid-week. Hopefully the roads will be dry. "Black ice" is more dangerous than six inches of snow.
- 205.188.208.38 - Monday, January 05, 2004 at 02:37:33 (UTC)

Jim:
slow again tonight. Will check back later.
- 205.188.208.76 - Monday, January 05, 2004 at 02:42:14 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Happy New Year to everyone. We just got home a few minutes ago from a gambling day trip to Cripple Creek. We had 6 inches of snow yesterday so the roads were not the best but we made it ok. We needed the snow, it is so dry here again, and we had a beautiful white world this morning, everything had a layer of snow because it came down with no wind and piled on everything including tree brances.
- 198.81.26.9 - Monday, January 05, 2004 at 04:24:50 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Slow nite tonite-everyone is tuckered out from the holidays, I guess....Just got home myself-11:30 P.M.here in N.Y. Streets are wet and slippery-glad to be home...Happy new year once again to everyone on the Plauderzimmer
- 68.194.42.188 - Monday, January 05, 2004 at 04:33:11 (UTC)

hilde kobetitsch:
Jim Heimann

Thank you for your New Year's wishes. I feel real bad Jim, I lost your e-mail address; would you please be so kind and send it to me again. I certainly would appreciate it.

Hope you and your family are well. Talk to you later

Thank you and have a wonderful year.
Hilde

- 205.188.208.42 - Wednesday, January 07, 2004 at 02:20:20 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Greetings from a very, very chilly Minnesota. We have a wind chill of -25�. Am definitely enjoying our warm wood fire. Hope you are all comfy and happy.
- 216.251.169.32 - Wednesday, January 07, 2004 at 04:29:15 (UTC)

Kirk Samida:
Hello all. Finally found my way back here after being gone for a couple of years. Best wishes to all for the New Year.
- 142.59.174.140 - Friday, January 09, 2004 at 03:54:14 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Welcome back Kirk Samida. I am sorry but do not remember you from before but then I am quite new to this forum. I am assuming you have a Gottscheer connection. May I ask to what area. I come from the Tschermoschnitz region and have lived in Minnesota since April of 1952. Happy New Year to you too.
- 209.240.245.142 - Friday, January 09, 2004 at 04:10:52 (UTC)

Paul B.:
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- 68.194.42.188 - Friday, January 09, 2004 at 06:02:43 (UTC)

Kirk Samida:
Hello Sophia, yes it was quite awhile ago since I was here, about 5 years. I'm not sure exactly which region my family originated in as my great grandfather died at a young age and none of the information was passed on.
- 142.59.174.140 - Friday, January 09, 2004 at 12:02:55 (UTC)

Kirk Samida:
I'm not sure what is happening here as everytime I log on, my original message from the 8th is posted again.
- 142.59.174.140 - Friday, January 09, 2004 at 12:05:43 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Kirk, no problem. Your bookmark or 'favorite' for this page contains your original posting. Delete it and reset it to:
http://hwk.best.vwh.net/chat/tqchat.html
If it persists, also clear your cache. Click on Tools - Internet Options - Delete Files.
- 24.3.22.21 - Saturday, January 10, 2004 at 03:52:21 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, Kirk. It has been a long time. I located other Samidas in the Washington County area of Pennsylvania. They are listed as from Yugoslavia and came over around 1899. It is a good bet that they are relatives of yours. Highly unlikely for a family of Samidas to go that area of Pennsylvania and not be related to your family. The last name, Samida, is usually seen in the Tschermoschnitz or Pollandl areas of Gottschee. A variant, Samide, is seen in other parishes.
- 152.163.252.132 - Saturday, January 10, 2004 at 04:21:43 (UTC)

Regina Ramor Gardner:
Hi,Jim, I am finally on line again. Since we moved my computer (mouse) died. Soooo I bought a new one computer.
Printer and scanner. Also since moving we had alot of unpacking to do. We have moved to the east part of the city, much quieter and peacefull. Across the river (the south Thompson) we can see alot of cattle feeding in the feed lot. The place where they fatten them up and send them to slaughter house. Also, I have not done much with the Ramor family tree yet. I hope to send a bit of info to the Gottscheer Heritage paper soon.
Hi, Trix! Hope you both had a Blessed and peaceful Holidy Season.

- 24.67.253.204 - Saturday, January 10, 2004 at 07:02:55 (UTC)

Kirk Samida:
Hello all. Finally found my way back here after being gone for a couple of years. Best wishes to all for the New Year.
- 142.59.174.140 - Saturday, January 10, 2004 at 11:30:16 (UTC)

Kirk Samida:
Thank you Helmuth, I'll give it a try and see what happens, but it looks ok so far.
Hello again Jim. Yes its been a long time, but am now just getting back into doing some research. Raising kids and working can keep a guy busy. I've also located other Samida's from that area, but no definate link there yet. My ggrandfather died in Pennsylvania in 1893, so he must have been one of the earlier ones over. My contact from that area also had a ggrandfather(George Samida) who was a coal miner, so we presume they were related, we just don't know how yet. One of my relatives from Wisconsin sent up a picture of my ggrandfathers headstone. It was quite interesting because on the side of the headstone there was a second name of a son born in 1882 and dying in 1890. His name was also George Samida.
Take care
Kirk Samida
- 142.59.174.140 - Saturday, January 10, 2004 at 11:43:48 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Just to clarify, === was your ancestor's father named Georg Samida? If you can send me the information you have, I will work with it. I sent you an email recently so you should have the email address.

- 64.12.96.42 - Sunday, January 11, 2004 at 04:17:11 (UTC)

Trix:
Greetings from Minnesota where we have a dreary, gray and drab day. But, cannot complain. Temperatures are nice. Ready to watch the Packers and am hoping they will go all the way in 2004.

Are we going to chat tonight? Lets try!!!!

Gr�� Dich Ted Meditz und alles, alles Gute.
- 209.240.237.140 - Sunday, January 11, 2004 at 21:04:04 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Anyone want some snow? Shovelled once today and will probably have to shovel again tonight. Try to make it here tonight (if I get the computer first)
- 199.243.152.212 - Sunday, January 11, 2004 at 21:06:52 (UTC)

Kirk Samida:
We'll take the snow up here in Central Alberta, Canada. We had rain of all things all day yesterday and now it dropped down to -10C. Just one big skating rink outside.
- 142.59.174.140 - Sunday, January 11, 2004 at 23:29:48 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We'll take the snow in Canon City also. It was in the 60's again today so our snow is about gone from last Saturday. We need all the moisture we can get.
- 198.81.26.49 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 00:48:06 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Oh my...both Trix and Margaret are grieving tonight.
- 24.3.22.21 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 01:34:59 (UTC)

Trix:
Well, Helmuth, that got that right. Imagine the Packers loosing on one single mistake. Is life fair? Probably not but then, let's remember, it's just a game. Thanks for your thoughts. Way to go Helmuth.
- 209.240.237.140 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:03:18 (UTC)

Jim:
I think Trix had her tears on the last day of the season as the Vikings let the title slip away. Let's see --- Panthers versus Eagles and Patriots versus Indianopolis. New England and Indianopolis should be a great game if both teams play up to their capabilities.
- 152.163.253.2 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:11:28 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Well, our Chiefs won't be going anywhere till next year. As Trix said, "It's only a game." We were so hopeful. Hope all are well and warm.
- 171.75.214.204 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:12:05 (UTC)

Jim:
Oops -- Indianapolis is the correct spelling
- 152.163.252.37 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:12:06 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
only 34 more days until Daytona Sunday
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:14:09 (UTC)

Ridy:
OK - somebody please clue me in. I've figured out that the discussion is about some sort of ball game. Considering the season, it's not baseball. Golf isn't a team sport, generall speaking, and it's not cricket. Don't think it's hockey. That leaves basketball and football..... which is it?
- 64.229.236.218 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:15:43 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
They like football, I like nascar racing
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:16:17 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Helmuth: I guess I'm not really grieving, but the Chiefs are terrific sometimes and lousy the next. You get the whole town psyched up and then we get let down. City council tells us the play-off today brought several million dollars in visitors. That's good.
- 171.75.214.204 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:17:13 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Talked to my Tante Leni Yonke yesterday. It was 3 below zero at 2:30PM. Then I see the fans at the Patriots game and couldn't believe people would come out in cold like that.
Very devoted fans.
- 171.75.214.204 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:21:36 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
it was -38 last week here. poor car had a hard time
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:22:40 (UTC)

Jim:
-38 ---- a tad bit chilly. How do you deal with weather like that?
- 64.12.96.38 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:25:42 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
bundle up plus you get use to it
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:26:08 (UTC)

Trix:
Agree with Sharon - bundle up and get use to it but it is definitely a bummer to have it that cold.
- 209.240.237.140 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:28:34 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
doesn't feel like winter until the weather gets somewhere around -35
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:29:48 (UTC)

Ridy:
It was cold enough in Toronto to freeze the balls off a brass monkey as well. Today it went above freezing, but by midweek we're supposed to be back down in the arctic temperature zones again. From one extreme to the other this winter, it seems. We've even had an inch or two of snow today - not enough to make a fuss about, but it's definitely turned white out there. My sisters are off to Cuba and I wish I could join them! Not that I like the hot weather, but it would be good for a change.
- 64.229.236.218 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:31:11 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
must of snowed about 4 inches here last night and today
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:32:48 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Our weather sound balmy, compared to some you are describing. Forgot. Coach Vermeil got a Porsche from Chiefs management. Wonder if they will take it back tomorrow??
- 171.75.214.204 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:34:01 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
must be nice, the guy can't afford one himself
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:35:38 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Must say auf wiedersehen. Be well. Stay warm. Irish wish: Eat well. Be safe. Drink good beer.
- 171.75.214.204 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:35:49 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
have a goodnight
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:37:16 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
another slow night. I will check in later
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 02:42:41 (UTC)

Regina Ramor Gardner:
Hi,everyone. Nice to hear from all. We have also had a cold spell here in British Columbia (Kamloops). Now the temp. is hovering around 0 C.; we have about 4 to 6 in. of snow on the ground still. We sure need the moisture with all the fires we had this summer. I myself like hockey. We have quite a good team here in Kamloops "The Blazers." Some of the players have gone on to the big leagues..
We are almost settled into our new home only a few boxes to unpack now.
This new computer sure is nice to use. I'm still getting use to it.
We also are attending a new church and it is very community like. Very friendly bunch of people.
- 24.67.253.204 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 03:50:51 (UTC)

Trix:
Greetings Regina. Nice to hear from you again and glad all is well. Enjoy your new home and please stay in touch. Do you know of other Gottscheers who might live in your part of BC. I know there are some in Alberta and in Winnipeg too. Would appreciate your thoughts. Happy New Year to you and yours.
- 209.240.245.101 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 18:19:10 (UTC)

Kirk Samida:
Hello Trix
I know of a family in Vancouver that moved over to Canada in 52. There is also a bunch in Saskatchewan that I know of.
- 142.59.174.140 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 18:21:35 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Ridy-Don't feelsorry for that brass monkey-Us human monkeys are having the same problen on Long Island! BRRRRRRR! OUCH! BRRRRRR__KLINK KLINK---BRRRR!!!!
- 68.194.42.188 - Monday, January 12, 2004 at 23:36:19 (UTC)

Ted Meditz:
Hello Trix,Ich Gr�sse Dich zur�ck!!
I would like say hello! to everybody all of the participates at the Gottscheer Plauderzimmer.I is very enjoyable to me.I will say,good night too all of you,from
Germany
- 80.145.165.23 - Tuesday, January 13, 2004 at 19:39:47 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
This afternoon it was in the forties and tonight it will be single digits. Tomorrow maybe even lower. I wish the northern Gottscheers (those north of NJ) would keep the chill winds blowing away from us.
- 205.188.208.37 - Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 00:18:07 (UTC)

Ridy:
Jim ~ We're suffering up here as well. This morning it was still above freezing, and now we're down into the single digits, going down to single digits below zero overnight! Granted, it's January, but this cold is not what we like to be. We've even had enough snow for the snow plough to come around. . . . pretty it might be, but to my liking it is not. And then there are those who seem to go in search of the cold. . . check out this web site of a group of scientists trekking across the frozen North, collecting data on global warming. I know it's true, but it does sound like a huge fantasy just now.
http://polarhusky.com/portal.html
Stay warm, everybody, and one thing for sure - I'll be complaining about the heat six months from now! You can bank on it!
- 64.229.232.152 - Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 01:34:08 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hello everyone

I see that there is a Ted Meditz from Germany signed on. Mr. Meditz, can you tell me where your parents are from? My mother was a Meditz and was born in Unterdeutschau. Mr. Heiman was so kind as to send me all the information on my mother's side, but I am always interested when I see the name Meditz. Have a good day. Hilde

- 152.163.253.4 - Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 03:46:43 (UTC)

Bob Miklich:
Good Morning,
I am from Little Falls, NY and my fathers home town is Draga, Slovenia. I am looking for information on people by the name of Osbolt, Miklich or Schwasnick. Also I am looking for a book in ENGLISH by Erich Petschauer "Das Jahrhundertbush". I found that Herma Moschner made a translation of this book and I would like a copy. If anyone has any informaition I would appreciate it. Thanks, Bob
- 24.58.238.204 - Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 15:59:07 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Good Morning Bob Miklich. Good to hear from you. Have never been to Draga but know where it is and also know Gottscheers who hail from that village in the western most part of the former Gottschee.

Regarding the book in ENGLISH I would recommend that you write to: Robert Kraker, Gottscheer Relief Assn. 657 Fairview Avenue, Ridgewood, NY 11385. The publication was originally distributed through the NY Gottscheer organization and I am thinking that Mr. Kraker would know3 whether or not the book is still available. If NOT, send me an e-mail at wyants@mlecmn.net.

Good to meet you and hope to hear from you again. Tell us a little about your memories of Gottschee as learned from your father. I, for one, would love to hear it. I also have a beautiful photo of the church in Draga that I would be glad to share with you. I know that I have heard the name Mklich before so chances are there are others by that name, and that area, around. Good luck in yourjourney.
- 216.251.169.145 - Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 16:33:03 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Guten Morgen Ted Meditz (Neuberg by bei Tschermoschnitz) now Germany. Greetings and all the best. Hope it is a good day for you and yours. Very cold in Minnesota with new snow on the ground and more on its way.
- 216.251.169.145 - Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 16:34:43 (UTC)

Bob:
Hi Sophia,
Thanks for the information. I used to know a lot of people in Ridgewood. I'll check back with you in the future.
Thanks,
Bob
- 24.58.238.204 - Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 17:26:36 (UTC)

Bertha Mausser:
Happy New Year to all fellow Gottscheers,send me an e-mail if you know me.Thanks
- 66.94.79.43 - Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 18:24:07 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer - Wyant:
Hi Bertha Mausser. Happy New Year to you too. Am not sure if I know you but if not, would love to get to know you. Tell us a little about yourself. From which village in Gottschee; were you born there? Did your family resettle? To where? When did you arrive in the good old USA? Hope to hear from you. My e-mail is wyants@mlecmn.net. I was born in the Moschnitze area of the former Gottschee and have lived in Minnesota since 1952.
- 216.251.169.145 - Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 18:29:58 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Just wanted to say, that with all the problems-war-economy-etc, etc., that it warms me to see that there is still Humanity left.I am always so happy to see people's postings on the Plaiderzimmer who are interested in their family back ground and inquiring info...Fir a while there I thought the interest was waining,Keep up the good work and the traditions all you Gottscheers.While I have little to offer except stories of my Gottscheer family(by Marriage) as you may remember, I am delighted to see tradition carried on in all the postings..Love and God's Blessings to you all...
- 68.194.42.188 - Wednesday, January 14, 2004 at 19:12:05 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hilde: Are you any relation to the Meditz family that came from Oberdeutschau? I am interested in learning about this family if you are. Thanks.
- 198.81.26.17 - Thursday, January 15, 2004 at 02:58:07 (UTC)

Ted Meditz:
Hi Marilu Peschel,
I am not related to the Meditz family in Oberdeutschau.I am
related to a Meditz family in Reichenau,but i lost contact after WW2.sorry can not help you.I was born in Neuberg by Tschermoscnitz 1n 1926.From 1951 till 1958 i was living in
Chicago i still love that City.Best regards to you and your family from Germany
- 80.145.150.253 - Thursday, January 15, 2004 at 15:39:31 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hello Marilu Peschel Thurman

Nice to hear from you, I only wish that my mother would be here now, but she is deceased, she would know the Meditz's from Oberdeutschau. I myself do not, I will ask Mrs. Meditz from Cleveland, who married a Karl Meditz, who lived in Brooklyn, I will find out where he was from. My mother knew Karl from home. As soon as I find out I will leave you a message.

Wow, it is bitter cold here in Cleveland today. I guess winter has officially announced himself or herself, which ever it may be. It snowed most of the day, but now as the weather man said, the clipper left the area. What can one expect when it is winter, right? Will be talking to all of you soon. Keep warm.

Hilde

- 205.188.208.69 - Friday, January 16, 2004 at 02:45:22 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hello Ted Meditz. Sorry I missed your call the other day, but I work during the day and when I got home after stopping at the store, it was too late to call you back. I will try this weekend. Even though we are not relatives, it will be nice talking to you. I am desparately trying to find my cousins from my mother's brother's side, but have had no luck. Mr. Jim Heimann thought he had their number, but apparently they moved and are no longer at the e-mail address he had. I will be talking to you soon.

Thanks again and stay healthy.

Hilde

- 205.188.209.140 - Friday, January 16, 2004 at 02:49:17 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Bob Miklich: You can get the book from Wm. Meditz from Middle Village In N.Y. His Ph.# 1-718-326-3633.. I have just spoken to him,and he will wait for your call. I have my copy from him for a year or so..You will enjoy it. Remember to tell him, of course, that you want the Englidh version...
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, January 17, 2004 at 00:10:09 (UTC)

Trix:
Way to go Paul. Thanks very, very much.
- 216.251.169.137 - Saturday, January 17, 2004 at 00:14:06 (UTC)

Hilde kobetitsch:
Hi Berta

Happy New Year to you and Joe. Thanks for all of the help you give to the Gottscheer Club here in Cleveland. You are a terrific Vice President. See you in March.

Hilde

- 64.12.96.71 - Saturday, January 17, 2004 at 03:59:40 (UTC)

Alexander:
I look for Mr. Jhon Turney, I am descending of second generation of the KÃ¶nig last name. Alexander Fernandez Patagonia Argentine fao@argentina.com
- 209.73.164.50 - Saturday, January 17, 2004 at 20:33:24 (UTC)

Alex:
Hi : I look for Mr. Jhon Turney, I am descending of second generation of the KONIG last name. Alexander Fernandez Patagonia Argentine fao@argentina.com
- 209.73.164.50 - Saturday, January 17, 2004 at 20:35:35 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Alex, puedes darnos un poco m�s informaci�n, por favor? Puedes escribir en espa�ol--mi marido me lo puede traducir.
Tienes la �ltima direcci�n conocida de John Turney?
Es de origen Gottschee?
Si lo es, tienes el nombre y apellido de sus padres y abuelos, donde nacieron, y sus fechas de nacimiento (aproximadas)?
Cu�l es el nombre y apellido de tu abuela y de tu abuelo?
Cu�ndo y d�nde nacieron?
Cu�ndo emigraron a la Argentina?
Yo tambi�n tengo parientes cuyo apellido es K�nig, pero es un apellido relativamente com�n en Gottschee.
Mi direcci�n electr�nica es ridy@sympatico.ca

- 64.229.232.152 - Sunday, January 18, 2004 at 01:13:48 (UTC)

Trix:
Ridy - CONGRATULATIONS. I am thinking your first sentence asks him what information he is looking for. How close am I? Also, just want to you know that I am pretty sure that we used to have a member by the name of John Turney - maybe from Arizone. Could be interesting. If you learn any more let me know and perhaps I can check it out.

Good job Ridy.
- 216.251.169.162 - Sunday, January 18, 2004 at 04:39:06 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Ridy, I have sent an email to Alexander and to John. The email address that I had for John no longer works. I hope Alexander responds. My daughter is home until next Saturday so she can help with messages and see if we can find a connection to Gottschee.
- 152.163.253.5 - Sunday, January 18, 2004 at 18:11:41 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy Sunday to all-stay safe and warm...
- 68.194.42.188 - Sunday, January 18, 2004 at 18:41:13 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Good evening all, finally am able to get to sit and see who is on tonight.

Hilde

- 205.188.209.37 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 01:45:32 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Ridy, are you with us tonight?

Hilde

- 205.188.209.40 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 01:46:07 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Congratulations to all you Patriot fans. They played a great game. Us Chiefs fans keep saying, "There's always next year."
- 171.75.201.250 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 02:08:39 (UTC)

Ridy:
I'll be her in a minute. . .
- 64.229.232.152 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 02:09:22 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
hello all. Been using a spanish translation program to "speak" with Alejandro. The program does a better job with Spanish than it does with German. My daughter, Amanda, has had to make only an occasional correction.
- 64.12.96.231 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 02:13:38 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, Hilde and Margaret.
- 64.12.96.107 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 02:14:03 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hi everybody,
Yes, I'm here, Hilde. Been on the phone. When I talk on the phone and type at the same time, I make mistakes, as you can see.
Has everyone thawed out by now? We're gearing up for the next blast of arctic air coming down the pike.
- 64.229.232.152 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 02:20:17 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Wasn't too cold here today. Yesterday the wind was really cold. How many more days until summer?
- 199.243.152.144 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 02:23:36 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
It is okay in New Jersey but we will have a cold spell starting tomorrow. It is winter after all and we have only had a reasonable amount of snow to this point.
- 64.12.96.77 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 02:24:26 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
need some more snow? we have lots here
- 199.243.152.144 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 02:25:36 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Sharon, thank you but no thank you. We have enough to go around.
- 64.12.96.230 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 02:26:29 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
It snowed here for 3 days straight. It finally stopped yesterday
- 199.243.152.144 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 02:27:13 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
From what I can tell, Alejandro is not related to John Turney. Alejandro's ancestors came from Neubacher and Turney's Gottscheer relations came from Ort and Grintowitz.
- 64.12.96.200 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 02:33:10 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi. This is so interesting about Alejandro. I wonder why he thinks he might be related to Turney. Hm. Would be nice to make a connection. Off hand I do not know the exact location of the villages. Are they close togther? Any information about other possible Gottscheers in Argentina?
Stay warm. Very, very brrrrr here tonight. The fire feels good.
- 209.240.237.137 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 02:37:34 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Both Neubacher and Grintowitz were in the Altlag parish. I believe Alejandro located an old online posting by John with some of the names that he was interested in. I sent Alejandro some information that may match up with his ancestors. Time will tell.
- 64.12.96.235 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 02:40:15 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
The site went suddenly quiet. Will sign off for now. Hope everyone has a great week.
- 64.12.97.7 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 03:00:38 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Sorry Jim I was looking at a posting on another site. The chat line has been quiet for a long time now. I think we need to remind people that it still exists
- 199.243.152.144 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 03:05:51 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Good night everyone-stay warm and safe.
- 68.194.42.188 - Monday, January 19, 2004 at 04:42:09 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Staying warm would be nice. -35 here today before the wind chill.
- 199.243.152.187 - Tuesday, January 20, 2004 at 02:33:31 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Sharon and all. I hear you, staying warm would be nice but I don't think it is going to happen. We have a wild, cold, windy and brrrr day at Waukenabo. About 40 mph wind from the north. I was smart enough to stay home and enjoy the nice wood fire today. Feels wonderful. Hope everyone is doing well including the Gottscheers from across the Atlantic. liebe Gr��e an Euch alle.
- 209.240.245.134 - Wednesday, January 21, 2004 at 23:08:42 (UTC)

Sophia "Trix" Stalzer-Wyant:
Czech Republic, Hungary, Slovenia and Austria with your host: Adam Barthalt and his band. Sept. 10-24, 2004

Reeived a copy of the above brochure this morning and thought I would pass it on. If anyone is looking for a fun time, to get away from it all this year, this could be perfect. Knowing Adam and Margarethe (Gottscheer born from Altlag) personally and having friends who have traveled with them in the past you will have a GREAT time. If you are interested contact Kollander Travel in Cleveland, 1-800-800-5981 for a free brochure.

As you have heard me say so many times live life NOW. Don't put off your dreams. Enjoy every day.
- 216.251.169.41 - Thursday, January 22, 2004 at 16:08:30 (UTC)

Paul B.:
When I was very very young & stupid I asked Adam who was performing out on the Island here, to play a real FAST POLKA-I wanted to show off.About one minute into the wild dance I fell on my rump!!! And now tho I am very very old and stupid I don't think I will ever make that mistake again.. But we all had a great time that day anyway..Those were the days my friend-thought they would never end. I thrive on the memories...
- 68.194.42.188 - Friday, January 23, 2004 at 02:41:48 (UTC)

Trix:
Hey Paul, thanks. What a GREAT story.
- 209.240.245.162 - Friday, January 23, 2004 at 03:34:33 (UTC)

Regina Gardner (Ramor):
Hi, to whoever is on line tonight. I see a KONIG is mentioned. A few years ago I heard of a Konig Doctor of N.Y. Also, he was from my village of Reichenau, I don't remember which house # the Konig family lived in.
I hope this is of some help.
Our weather here in KAMLOOPS, B.C. is very nice, only a very light icing dust of snow this morn. Trix I hope everything is well with you and all your family.

Noch abach reden. Regina
- 24.67.253.204 - Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 04:31:24 (UTC)

Paul B.:
O.K. Regina-I will do a little talking. I haven't heard those words noch abach reden in a while.You brought back some sweet memories.. Don't mind thespelling, but my remark of Ich kon ete reden (sp?) used to always bring a good laugh when I came up with that answer....Ah yes, those were the good old Gottscheer days for me..Weather here on Long Island in New York is now 10 with a scary chill factor.Pleasant dreams -Have a warm and good Sunday...
- 68.194.42.188 - Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 05:23:01 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Another ice storm hit KCMO last night. A thin glaze. Pretty much the whole city is house-bound. Snow expected tonight. So how is everyone else??
- 65.58.54.113 - Monday, January 26, 2004 at 01:56:53 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hello everyone

It is Sunday again and I hope we have a few people on the line today. The weather is just too cold to go out. If we have the snow pass us by tomorrow, that will be great. The weather channel promised us a lot of snow, rain, ice, etc.
I see that KCMO has what they promised us. Stay warm and hope that things will get better fast.

Hilde

- 152.163.252.69 - Monday, January 26, 2004 at 02:28:55 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hi Jim and Ridy

Hope you are both well. Stay warm. It is another day closer to spring, so we should be out of this soon.

- 152.163.252.4 - Monday, January 26, 2004 at 02:30:37 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
New Jersey calling in. Very cold here but so far no precipitation. The weather report predicts snow tomorrow. Hopefully I will be able to get to and from work. I don't worry about snow but thin, black ice can be scary.
- 64.12.96.235 - Monday, January 26, 2004 at 02:32:17 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hilde, are you still on? Margaret?
- 64.12.96.15 - Monday, January 26, 2004 at 02:33:00 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Another slow evening in the chatroom.
- 64.12.96.46 - Monday, January 26, 2004 at 02:37:08 (UTC)

Frank :
Hilde Kobetitsch do you or did you have any relatives in Canada vancouver when I arrived in Vancouver back in 1948 I met some of them they were quite a large family I think some of them moved to Prince George.
- 66.119.174.151 - Monday, January 26, 2004 at 02:54:40 (UTC)

Trix:
Taking a break from the Golden Gloves Awards. With Dick Clark being the producer it is always a top show.

It continues to snow at Waukenabo and they tell us it will go on all night and all day tomorrow. In spite of that, it is beautiful and peaceful. Now if the winds behave it will be ok but if they, as promised, do come it will be very, very interesting. We live on a point surrounded by water and without a doubt, will be drifted shut. But, we have good neighbors who will do their plowing once its over. So, everyone, stay warm and enjoy the quiet of the winter.

Cook Islands Richard, I send you greetings and hope all is well.
- 216.251.169.146 - Monday, January 26, 2004 at 03:19:37 (UTC)

Franz:
Hi Trix looks like you and I are the only ones here the rest are all snowed in what do you think ?
- 66.119.174.166 - Monday, January 26, 2004 at 03:46:56 (UTC)

Ridy:
A late good evening to everybody!
Sorry I'm so late again... meant to get on earlier. From the sounds of it, everyone is 'under the weather'. We had a beautiful day here in Toronto, as long as you don't factor the temperature into it. Now we're under a winter storm warning, and we may well also be snowed in by morning. However, since I haven't set foot outside the door since Christmas, another few days of being housebound won't matter much, one way or the other.
I've made another 'high tech mistake'..... the other day (and I'm not sure anymore what day it was) I opened my Inbox to find it loaded to the hilt with spam - and I lost my cool. I always delete the junk without opening it, but this time I did something different - don't have a clue what it was - and I deleted about a week's worth of messages, a good number of which I had not read yet. Only recognized three or four as they were flashing by, faster than the speed of light. If you sent me a message, and did not receive a response, I apologize. Would you please send it again. Hilde - one of them might have been from you - am not sure - my sister Hilde re-sent me some she had sent. I have been told to start zapping them from the bottom up in future, not from the top down. mea culpa.
- 64.229.232.152 - Monday, January 26, 2004 at 04:09:17 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Just got home from celebrating my birthday. Kids had a big party for me. It is the big 60 today. It is snowing here, we have about an inch already and it just started. Denver has 8 inches already. Hope we get 6 inches here.
- 198.81.26.70 - Monday, January 26, 2004 at 04:21:37 (UTC)

Trix:
Happy Birthday Marilu and many, many, many more. Spring chicken!
- 216.251.169.146 - Monday, January 26, 2004 at 04:42:56 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy Birthday Marilu-Many More with Gods blessing..Trix calls you a spring chicken=according to my age you are only just about to hatch! Remember to enjoy life to the fullest....
- 68.194.42.188 - Monday, January 26, 2004 at 05:29:33 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
watch out for the newest virus out there. Anti-virus site officially announced yesterday that there is a new virus going around.
- 199.243.152.118 - Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 01:49:08 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Greetings to all visitors to the Plauderzimmer. It is cold, really cold in Minnesota. Try -20�F as of noon. This will continue for the next 6 or 7 days. Looking at the news from Europe though, they have their troubles too.

On a happier note, I am looking for a map of the former Austrian - Hungarian Empire which includes the area of the former Gottschee (now part of Slovenia) and the former area of Untersteiermark to which the Gottscheers resettled in 1941.

The names of the villages, I think are written in both the original German and current Slovenian. I saw this map on the internet but unfortunately for me cannot remember where and did not save the proper page.

If anyone can help in locating this map please post the ULR page for all the see. It truly is a GREAT map and would be enjoyed by many.

Anyone planning to go to Slovenia this year? Would appreciate knowing that too. There are a number of excellent publications, on the former Gottschee, that are not as yet available in North America. Would be nice if someone could buy a few and bring them back.

Its cold but sunny and time to start dreaming about this summer and places to visit.

Thanks everyone. Appreciate you.
- 209.240.245.154 - Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 20:11:07 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Special regards to our European Gottscheers who visit the Plauderzimmer regularly. These include Ted, Edith, Maridi, Klemen, Erik, Doris and no doubt many others. Stay warm.
- 209.240.245.154 - Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 20:12:52 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Trix go to the following web site. awesome map I've seen so far on the net.
http://pipeline.com/~jbglad/map-of-gottschee.JPG

- 199.243.152.8 - Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 22:32:33 (UTC)

Russell:
Sharon,
I couldn't find your map. Was the addy correct?
- 152.163.252.102 - Friday, January 30, 2004 at 20:27:14 (UTC)

Edith Eisenk�lbl-Gliebe:
Greetings to all visitors to the plauderzimmer, especially to Sophia and Ridy. Hope you are well. Today the weather in Austria is not too cold and so we enjoy to walk out with our dog. Have a beautiful sunday.
- 62.47.22.86 - Saturday, January 31, 2004 at 08:53:27 (UTC)

Regina (Ramor) Gardner:
Hi, to all. This may be of interest to Frank and Hilde. I spoke with my sister Olga last night and she said that she was at a funeral of a Kobetitch in Vancouver. Our cousin Ron Schuss and other cousins where also there. Sorry, I don't know her first name.

Ridy, I have been trying to send you some email but alas it doesn't go through. Maybe you could let me know your present email?

Hi, Trix.. I can understand that the snow is getting you, it sure got us on Wed.28th about a foot of snow fell here in Kamloops, B.C. We are all shoveled out now and expect to have a very sunny Sunday. It should lift my spirits since I just got a very baaad headcold, I think I need nose plugs for my runny nose. The rest of the family have gone to a prayer group, hope the prayers do alot of good.

Griesgott, Edith, of Austria. I have a cousin that lives in Graz. It's been a long time since we visited there.
Our temperature here in Kamloops is around 0 C. so it is not to cold either.

Gott gesegneit eich. Regina
- 24.67.253.204 - Sunday, February 01, 2004 at 04:21:54 (UTC)

Margaret Jon ke:
Guten Abend. Will leave an early message,as we'll be glued to the super bowl. Waiting for monster snow storm. Heaven only knows what we will get??? See you on line next Sunday.
- 171.75.201.226 - Sunday, February 01, 2004 at 20:44:25 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Russell, type the address in the google search engine and hit enter. It will say it can't find this site but will have and address below it. Click on that web site address.
- 199.243.152.145 - Sunday, February 01, 2004 at 22:54:33 (UTC)

hilde kobetitsch:
Hilde Kobetitsch

Hello from Cleveland, where it is cold, icy, snowy and just no relief in sight. Will be getting bad tomorrow again.

How are things everywhere else?

- 205.188.208.8 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 02:31:36 (UTC)

hilde kobetitsch:
Hello Frank

You asked me if I had relatives in Vancouver? I am Kobetitsch by marrige, and as far as I know that side of the family did not have anyone in Vancouver. I will have to call that side of the family and ask them. This Kobetitsch family here in Cleveland was quite big also, but had no relatives here at all. Thanks for asking. My maiden name was Lackner from Unterdeutschau.

Have a good week

- 205.188.209.5 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 02:37:28 (UTC)

hilde kobetitsch:
Hello Jim and Ridy. I guess I will turn in now. Seems a quiet night again. Maybe everyone is just too tired to stay up this late, had too much snow and ice to take care of.

Talk to you again soon.

- 205.188.209.7 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 02:38:51 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
everyone is probably watching the super bowl tonight. another season of football has come and gone after tonight.
- 199.243.152.237 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 03:10:11 (UTC)

Frank :
Edith
What part of Austria do you live. I have relatives in D�rfla.
- 24.69.255.237 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 03:25:15 (UTC)

Regina ramor Gardner:
Hi, all, Looks like most people are watching the superbowl. I supposse there may be a conection to the Kobetitch in Vancouver, I have a greatgrandmother that was a Kobetitch also. Hilde you said your maiden name was Lackner. My Uncle John Lackner of Richmond, near Vancouver
has lived there since the '20s or '30s They have a street named after them because they have llived in same house for fify years. They are sort of pioneers of Richmond.
I don't know where in Gottschee he came from.

Regina
- 24.67.253.204 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 03:28:06 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
ok I'm back. I'm taping survivor after the bowl.
- 199.243.152.151 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 03:34:23 (UTC)

Frank :
It sure is a small world. My wife, Agnes, knows John and Kay Lackner. I have met John on a few occasions but never guessed he was from Gottschee. Agnes will phone Kay tomorrow and find out where exactly John is from.

- 24.69.255.237 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 03:34:27 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
does anyone know where I can get coloured photos of the village of Hohenegg. I would like to see what the village looks like now
- 199.243.152.151 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 03:42:33 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Greetings from Minnesota. Sorry I missed the chat tonight. Snowing here too.

I wish you all a wonderful week. Stay well, smile and think happy thoughts.
- 209.240.245.100 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 04:19:08 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Sharon. For some great photos of Hohenegg, Gottschee go to gottschee.de; click on archive; click on photos; click on H and bingo - you should have them and enjoy them. This informative web site is from Munich, Germany.
- 209.240.245.100 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 04:26:01 (UTC)

Frank :
Hi Sophie:
I watched the game and was disgusted with the half time show. Am I getting old or was it as bad as I thought.
Frank

- 24.69.255.237 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 04:32:34 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Have to agree with you Frank. Wasted time.
- 209.240.245.100 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 05:19:15 (UTC)

Edith Eisenk�lbl-Gliebe:
Frank:
I have lived in Kapfenberg (Steiermark) since 1945 and was born in Tschatesch (near Rann a.d.Save).
My parents were from Unterwarmberg (mother from Altlag)
Greetings from Edith
- 62.47.2.219 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 09:10:38 (UTC)

Franz of vancouver:
Edith My Email address is agnes@shaw.ca Perhaps you can drop me a note.
- 24.69.255.237 - Monday, February 02, 2004 at 19:23:42 (UTC)

D. Ryan Hoefferle:
Hello,
My name is ryan and I am a descendant of the Gottscheers. My Great grandfather (johannes Hoefferle) immigrated to wisconsin from Gottscheer. I was wondering if there was some way that I could get some good liable information about the Gottscheer traditions, legends (or stories), and dialect. If anyone could give me some information it would be gladly appreciated.

D. Ryan Hoefferle
- 24.116.242.199 - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 at 00:17:05 (UTC)

Frank:
Regina:
I talked to your uncle John today. He said that he was born here but did speak
- 24.69.255.237 - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 at 00:24:09 (UTC)

Frank:
Regina:
Hit the wrong button. Anyway, John said he did speak Gottscheerish when he was young but now longer remembers. He said his parents were from Slovenia (Lubliana) not sure if I am spelling it right. Anyway it sure is a small world.
Frank
- 24.69.255.237 - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 at 00:27:59 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Welcome D. Ryan.....I am sure that you will get some help very shortly....And you will be getting what you want to know from the right source. I am married (60 years) to my beautiful Gottscheer wife, and it has been a wonderful and gratifying experience. Lots of history-traditions-have loved every moment that God has given me with my Gottscheer family...
- 68.194.42.188 - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 at 01:55:55 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Hi D. Ryan. Nice to meet you. Thank you for your message. I am familiar with the H�fferle name and would enjoy learning more about your family. For example, where in Gottschee did they live? When did they come to America? Names of your parents, grandparents etc. We have a number of individuals working on the Gottscheer genealogy and know that they would enjoy assisting you.

There are many publications about Gottschee and the Gottschers including life style etc. Also, the Gottscheer dialect is still spoken by the older generation as well as the members of the last generation born in Gottschee. There are numerous efforts underway to preserve this old language.

I would suggest that you visit the many Gottscheer web sites and contact the Gottscheer Heritage and Genealogy Assn. which is a non-profit assn. established to preserve the history, culture and family records of Gottschee.

You are welcome to write to me at my home. It is wyants@mlecmn.net. Hope to hear form you.

I was born in the Moschnitze area of Gottschee.
- 209.240.237.143 - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 at 03:36:36 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
To D. Ryan Hoefferle ~
Some Gottscheer traditions and customs plus a bit of history are covered in a book Arnold Rom and I wrote about our childhood in Gottschee. If you are interested in it you can check out an ad for it on this web page,
http://armrpops.home.att.net/BookAdd.html
and if you would like to see a review of it I would be happy to send you some.
ridy@sympatico.ca
- 64.229.235.44 - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 at 04:00:30 (UTC)

Paul B.:
There you are D.Ryan. You will be very pleased with this Gottscheer chat room. I Have Ridy's book, by the way. Found it very enjoyable and informative. I have read it twice, and with my many year old memory I will probably read it again, and again...
- 68.194.42.188 - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 at 06:31:41 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Sherri:
YOU GOT MAIL
- 205.188.208.105 - Wednesday, February 04, 2004 at 00:20:40 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hey Frank--Long time no hear--how are things in Glendale these days? Are you still keeping the boys in line...Best regards, Paul
- 68.194.42.188 - Wednesday, February 04, 2004 at 01:27:05 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Got your email yesterday Frank. Thanks for the info. I understand about the weather. I'm starting to count down until summer. Not coming to fast in my opinion. Right now I'm trying to get access to an attachment thru my Mom's email. Her Outlook express denied access because it's not sure about the reliability of the attachment so now I'm waiting for the server to get back to me.
- 199.243.152.109 - Wednesday, February 04, 2004 at 17:13:36 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Like we all say, the fun of owning a computer
- 199.243.152.109 - Wednesday, February 04, 2004 at 17:14:14 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
OK I figured it out. I took the security option off. Wish I knew that earlier.
- 199.243.152.109 - Wednesday, February 04, 2004 at 17:46:57 (UTC)

Christine R�thel:
My name is Christine R�thel and I'm from Austria. My parents are from Gottschee. Therefore also we love all about Gottschee. Could you send me "Liedertexte" and "Kochrezepte", because we would like to do this gottscheer-kulture also in the future. I'm not so very good in english, but I' have a good dictionary. My E-Mail Address: christine.roethel@utanet.at
Thank you very much!!!
- 212.152.229.77 - Friday, February 06, 2004 at 08:44:18 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Weicome Christine: Help will come to you soon..Come on guys,Sophia? Ridy? Jim?
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, February 07, 2004 at 06:38:01 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Had the pleasure of sending Christine one of my Albert Belay cookbooks. It is an excellent one.
- 209.240.245.90 - Saturday, February 07, 2004 at 18:42:04 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Trix: You are always on hand..Bless You...
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, February 07, 2004 at 21:24:22 (UTC)

Franz of vancouver:
Howdy every one . Ist heute niemand zuhause oder wo seits ihr alle. Oder seits ihr alle eingefrohren ? Ja ja der winter ist nicht mehr da . Vancouver.
- 24.69.255.237 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 01:23:19 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant :
Welcome Christine. For Gottscheer culture I would suggest that you visit the many Gottscheer web sites. For culture, history, people, photos, "Liedertexte" and "Kochrezepte" go to gottschee.de, the best website on the net. This fully independent and informative site is from Munich, Germany. It has many articles about Gottschee and the Gottschers and it tells you how and why the Gottscheer, including myself, lost their Heimat. Click on Geschichte or Forum.

I was born in the Moschnitze area of Gottschee.

- 64.12.96.15 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 01:31:23 (UTC)

Franz vom eingeschneiten Mittelwesten:
Habe soeben eine Ladung Schnee nach Vancouver abgesandt, FED EX.
- 172.211.56.69 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 02:09:17 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hent heint lauter Franzein du peinondr?
- 64.229.235.44 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 02:38:28 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Ridy. Long time no hear. Good to have you with us. Hope all is well in Toronto.
- 216.251.169.169 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 02:56:11 (UTC)

:
jo ber ischt nue aofgstean?
- 172.211.56.69 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 02:57:12 (UTC)

:
jo ber ischt nue aofgstean?
- 172.211.56.69 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 02:59:00 (UTC)

Ridy:
Jo, ben D� worpei kimmescht, pin i a f�rt du, Franze.
- 64.229.235.44 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 03:00:07 (UTC)

Ridy:
Things are OK in Toronto and it appears we're finally getting some more bearable temperatures. Hope it's not just wishful thinking on my part.
- 64.229.235.44 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 03:01:28 (UTC)

Ridy:
Na svidenje alle miteinander ~
- 64.229.235.44 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 03:11:33 (UTC)

Franz:
Jo de pillicha miassn ju wil schlufn.
- 172.210.168.152 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 03:13:40 (UTC)

Franz:
Jo de pillicha miassn ju wil schlufn.
- 172.210.168.152 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 03:14:22 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hello everyone.I'm glad to see some of you getting together tonite.....Wish you a;; well and good tidings..
- 68.194.42.188 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 03:15:22 (UTC)

Franz of vancouver:
Well nue honi vile leite aufgebeket.midwesten Fraunz bier prachen koin schneb ete. ich bois et ob ich dos richtig schreib.
- 24.69.255.237 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 03:26:11 (UTC)

Franz of vancouver:
Sophia all the good men are called Fraz.
- 24.69.255.237 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 03:27:45 (UTC)

Franz of vancouver:
Oh.Oh I forgot the" N ".
- 24.69.255.237 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 03:29:16 (UTC)

Sophia:
Well, Franz it is. Greetings to Vancouver and Chicago. Hope you are both doing well. So, tell us all, what is new with you and yours?
- 216.251.169.169 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 03:40:12 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Good evening to all.
- 152.163.253.35 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 03:50:31 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, Franz and Franz. Probably cold in both Vancouver and Chicago. It should be getting warmer for a couple of days on the east coast.
- 152.163.243.186 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 03:51:21 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hello Jim: Just wanted to say hello to you-has been awhile-hope all is well-stay well and warm..
- 68.194.42.188 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 04:14:21 (UTC)

Franz of vancouver:
Mr. Heimann thank you for asking well it is not warm but not cold either no snow temp. is 2 to 3 cels. at night about 8 to 10 in the day mostly cloudy with a little sun peaking through occasionally. Sophia: not much is happening here i went for my regular bike ride through our local park it is an area that is totaly old forest it is quite a large area has a couple of small lakes inside . some time it is used by the search and rescue to practise in the summer it is realy cool inside because of the tall trees .In fact it gets quite dark inside and the sun hardly get through .
- 24.69.255.237 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 04:44:58 (UTC)

Paul B.:
It is past the bewitching hour---wish you all a good week-stay safe and warm..
- 68.194.42.188 - Monday, February 09, 2004 at 05:23:22 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Dear Franz,
Please call me Jim. The bike roads through the forest sound great. Is it very hilly or are the ups and downs gradual? I would think you would have to have a mountain bike for the terrain.

Paul--- a good week to you and your family.
- 152.163.252.228 - Tuesday, February 10, 2004 at 02:49:07 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hilde Kobetitsch
Hello Jim H:

Jim, I just wanted to thank you again for all the information you e-mailed me. My daughter, Teresa is going for her masters at Kent State, and one of her classes is on culture. This came in so handy for her. Her father's and my family tree helped tremendously. It was fun to go through this with her, even the grandchildren took a part in it. So again, donk schean. Have a good week.

- 205.188.209.40 - Tuesday, February 10, 2004 at 03:33:05 (UTC)

Franz of vancouver:
Dear Jim : Well it is somewhat hilly but the inclines are not too long so my legs get a rest. My son bought me a good used mountain bike. I used to do a lot of biking on city streets but my son said fat tires are a help as it is quite soft in places.It is very different from biking on roads, much harder on the legs, especialy at my age, but I am enjoying it. Much nicer to ride through a forest than on city streets with all that car exhaust.
My son and his wife go on 4 or 5 hour trips but I am not up to that anymore, about an hour is more to my liking.

- 24.69.255.237 - Tuesday, February 10, 2004 at 03:51:18 (UTC)

D. Ryan H�fferle:
Thanks Everyone for your help.

Just to let you know I am a third generation american. My Great Grandfather was Johannes Hoefferle and he came from P�llandl. If you have any information on the town or any other neat information please let me know? I am very interested in my heritage. Oh and by the way, How can I start to learn the Gottscheer dialect? Thanks to you all!

- 198.60.152.3 - Wednesday, February 11, 2004 at 15:56:54 (UTC)

mahmoud:
www
- 213.212.217.117 - Wednesday, February 11, 2004 at 18:17:17 (UTC)

Werner von Hopewell:
Franz von Vancouver - We are planning to be in Vancouver for a couple of days in the end of May. How is the weather at that time of year. Do you still have snow and is it cold so that we need to bring our winter booths and clothes? Would appreciate some input so that we don't dress too warm or too little. Thanks.
- 24.45.49.151 - Wednesday, February 11, 2004 at 21:58:59 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Franz of Vancouver ---- the bike hike sounds great. I bet the forests are beautiful with the changing of the seasons.

D.Ryan Hoefferle ---- I have quite a long file of your family line. If you are interested in the file, drop me a line at DocH3013454@aol.com

Hilde K. --- you and your daughter/granddaughter are most welcome. I am glad the information has found a good home and that your family is interested. Have you found any areas in the file where you have more complete information? Did I miss anybody?
- 205.188.209.78 - Thursday, February 12, 2004 at 01:27:34 (UTC)

Trix:
Lets us all remember to wish our good friend Ridy a very, very happy birthday. Ridy, stay well, enjoy life and remember the good times. Many hugs.
- 209.240.245.147 - Thursday, February 12, 2004 at 02:55:27 (UTC)

Franz of vancouver:
Ridy: A very happy birthday to you. It seems everyone I know has a February birthday. Aquarians are great people so are Pices (thats me ha ha)

Jim: I think the nicest part is the coolness during the hot days of summer. It is so nice to ride in there and sit by the lake when it is 80 or 90 cel and listen and watch the birds.

Werner: We usually have glorious weather in May. You should not need winter coats or boots. A warm jacket in case it is a little cool. Some years we have had 80 degrees in late May. Will keep you up to date as it gets nearer to May but I am sure it will be ok and if this is your first visit you will be very impressed. I still am after all these years.

- 24.69.255.237 - Thursday, February 12, 2004 at 04:06:19 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy Birthday Ridy--and while I'm at it a Happy St. Valentine Day to you and all the nice ladies in the PC...
- 68.194.42.188 - Thursday, February 12, 2004 at 05:13:24 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Hi Christine. Thank you for your message and greetings. You wrote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Christine R�thel:
My name is Christine R�thel and I'm from Austria. My parents are from Gottschee. Therefore also we love all about Gottschee. Could you send me "Liedertexte" and "Kochrezepte", because we would like to do this gottscheer-kulture also in the future. I'm not so very good in english, but I' have a good dictionary. My E-Mail Address: christine.roethel@utanet.at
Thank you very much!!!
- 212.152.229.77 - Friday, February 06, 2004 at 08:44:18 (UTC)
Knowing that you live near Graz, Austria I am hoping that you are actively involved with the Gottscheer organization there. They continue to do an outstanding job on preserving the Gottscheer heritage and am sure that they, just like all other organizations, not only hope but welcome the involvement of younger Gottscheers. This is probably one of the best ways to learn about our ancestors, culture and history. I know you will enjoy it.
- 216.251.169.4 - Thursday, February 12, 2004 at 14:02:21 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:

guten Abend. Sorry not to log in Sunday night. Birthday party for our older son. Hope to be with you Sunday.
- 171.75.224.118 - Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 01:08:20 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Well come Saturday, another year and I'm older. Happy Birthday Ridy. I forgot yours is before mine.
- 199.243.152.229 - Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 04:16:13 (UTC)

Trix:
Happy Birthday to you too Sharon. How is life treating you?
- 216.251.169.35 - Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 05:29:59 (UTC)

Russell:
I don't know if this will come up in this website. But this is the census report for EISENZAPF n the 1930 US Census. Except for the last person, All these people are related to me.
http://search.ancestry.families.aol.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?sourceid=9575&targetid=5105&db=1930usfedcen&ti=4300&sf=1&submit=%A0%A0Find%A0%A0&gsln=Eisenzapf&gsfn=&rc=locale%7E&us=0&o_xid=9575&o_lid=9575

- 205.188.208.5 - Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 16:57:46 (UTC)

PAUL B.:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ALL CONCERNED & A NICE VALENTINE DAY-ENJOY..
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 19:35:40 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi Trix. Life is great. Enjoying my new job. Its way better then my last one. I havn't had a chance to do anymore family research. Hopefully I can get back into it soon.
- 199.243.152.51 - Saturday, February 14, 2004 at 21:47:31 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hi Sharon-Happy Birthday--now sit back and smell the roses for the rest of the weekend and enjoy
- 68.194.42.188 - Sunday, February 15, 2004 at 01:11:54 (UTC)

rhonda kren:
Is there anyone that can locate death/cemetery records in Koflern. I'm looking for the Joseph/Mary Tschinkel KREN and family. They lived in either #15 or #45?? Thanks
- 152.163.253.69 - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 00:27:43 (UTC)

Russell:
Good evening. I'm here and should be around for a while. Anyone on tonight?
- 64.12.96.47 - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 02:09:25 (UTC)

Irene:
HI,
Happy Birthday and Happy Valentines Day!
- 24.195.32.62 - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 02:10:48 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all are well and had a good week. Need to catch up on all the PZ news.
- 171.75.238.109 - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 02:11:31 (UTC)

Irene:
Hi Margaret,
Hope all is well with you.
- 24.195.32.62 - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 02:12:47 (UTC)

:
Irene: The weather in KCMO is almost tropical--compared to last week. 35 to 45 this week. You never know if the weatherman is right. My relatives in NY have had horrendous snow and temps. We shouldn't complain.
- 171.75.238.109 - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 02:23:56 (UTC)

Irene:
17 degrees in Albany today. I supose it could be colder.
- 24.195.32.62 - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 02:26:00 (UTC)

Franz:
Hello all. Its rainy and mild here in Vancouver. Our Telethon to raise money for Children which runs for 23 hours on TV has just ended and they raised 7.5 million dollars. The people of BC certainly are generous at times.

Hope everyone is keeping well and warn. Who is all on tonight?
- 24.69.255.237 - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 02:30:00 (UTC)

Irene:
I will sign off now.
- 24.195.32.62 - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 02:30:06 (UTC)

Russell:
Irene: "I suppose it could be colder."

Reminds me of a homily my parish priest used to give during August. It goes something like this. He steps up to the pulpit. Wiping sweat off his brow and says: "If you think it's hot now, Just wait!"

- 64.12.116.211 - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 02:38:53 (UTC)

Franz:
Good one Russell
- 24.69.255.237 - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 02:50:09 (UTC)

Russell:
The priest gone about 15 years. It's one of those stories in the parish that goes on and on and on.
- 64.12.116.209 - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 03:08:24 (UTC)

Russell:
Anyone else out there? Or did most people leave already?
- 64.12.96.70 - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 03:09:11 (UTC)

Regina RAMOR Gardner:
Hi, everyone. Hope everyone had a good week and a special Valentine! Franz I wonder if you know some of my relatives in Vancouver? Any of the Schuss of Lackner or Ramor? I myself live in Kamloops. We use to live in Richmond. It is a bit colder here but the snow is very dry and we can use a broom to sweep the light snow we usually get, this year we had a big dump all in one day and we did quit a bit of shoveling. We are still setting into our home since we moved at end of Nov.03.
We try to get down to Vancouver at least twice a year to visit my sister and brother, and some cousins if time permits.

bye for now. regina
- 24.67.253.204 - Monday, February 16, 2004 at 04:34:33 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hoping that this was the last weekend of really cold temperatures. I am trying to help someone out with respect to lost connections with relatives. The person lives in Germany and they last interacted with their American cousins in the 1940s. Looking for descendants of Heinrich Tscherne and Louise Lobe who went to Brooklyn as well as the descendants of Josef Lobe and Gertrud Schweiger who lived in the Norwich, Ct. .
- 152.163.253.7 - Tuesday, February 17, 2004 at 14:25:39 (UTC)

Franz of vancouver:
Regina:
I did talk to your uncle , John Lackner, to find out just where he was from and did he still speak Gottscheerish. He said he was born here and did speak Gottscheerish when he was young but no longer remembers how. He told me he had a niece, Regina, in Kamloops. I do not know the Schloss family, just know of them mostly through the Gottscheer Newsletter. I did not attend Mrs. Kobetitsch's funeral but my younger sister Martha did . Have you talked to your Uncle John lately? Does your brother and sister who live here see John and Kay at all? I did hear from a mutual friend that John may have a medical problem. The details were not known at the time but she said she would let us know when she hears more. We pray it is not too serious.

Bye for now
- 24.69.255.237 - Tuesday, February 17, 2004 at 16:59:15 (UTC)

Franz of vancouver:
Hi again Regina:

I see that i have mispelled Schuss please accept my poor typing and spelling. I count on spellcheck but of course we do not have that on Plauderzimmer.

Franz
- 24.69.255.237 - Tuesday, February 17, 2004 at 22:10:17 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy weekend everyone..
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, February 21, 2004 at 05:10:36 (UTC)

Franz of vancouver:
And we are off to a sunny start.
- 24.69.255.237 - Saturday, February 21, 2004 at 16:27:24 (UTC)

Trix:
Same here in Minnesota. It is a beautiful, sunny and white day. Have lots of snow and it is beginning to melt but spring is still a long way off.

Am celebrating my 68th birthday today with family and friends. Yes, 1936 was a good year.

Smile everyone and think happy thoughts.
- 216.251.169.13 - Saturday, February 21, 2004 at 21:07:53 (UTC)

Franz of vancouver:
Well, a very, very happy birthday to you Trix. Glad you got sunshine to help you celebrate the day. Hope all is well with you and all of your family.

Franz
- 24.69.255.237 - Saturday, February 21, 2004 at 21:34:46 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all are well and had a good week. KCMO is enjoying lovely weather and waiting for another storm to blow in.
- 171.75.239.26 - Monday, February 23, 2004 at 02:08:29 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Trix:
Happy birthday. May you have many more.
- 171.75.239.26 - Monday, February 23, 2004 at 02:09:41 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Is anyone on tonight? Have laundry to do before bedtime. Will log on again later to check. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 171.75.239.26 - Monday, February 23, 2004 at 02:15:39 (UTC)

hilde kobetitsch:
Good evening everyone. I know I am late and everyone has gone to bed; and I will follow. Just thought I would say hello and wish everyone a good night and a good week.

Gute Nacht
- 64.12.96.12 - Monday, February 23, 2004 at 04:20:13 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Good evening Hilde. How is everything in Cleveland? We have lots of snow but warmer days which is most welcome. It has been a pretty nasty winter but know that spring is around the corner.

I learned that your Chor is going to Europe this summer. Wonderful. Hope everyone will have a GREAT time. Are you planning to go to Gottschee too?

Please greet all the Gottscheers and best wishes to you. Please remind Eddie S. not to forget the cassette of his beautiful button box music.

Any chance you might join us in Minneapolis in June? Would be nice to see you and others from Cleveland.
- 209.240.237.156 - Monday, February 23, 2004 at 04:25:02 (UTC)

Herb Mausser:
Hi Sophia and everyone else in the Plauderzimmer!

Unfortunately, the Cleveland Gottscheer Heimatchor had to change its travel plans, and will not be going to Europe this summer. I'm afraid events conspired against us. We're all very disappointed!

However, we are looking forward to the Treffen in Milwaukee Labor Day weekend, and hope to see as many of you as possible there! (Ridy, have you been setting aside your $10/week? Hope so!!)

Temperatures are supposed to creep into the 50s this weekend in Cleveland. Can crocuses, snowbells and daffodils be far behind?

Trix, hope you had a wonderful birthday celebration!
- 141.110.70.54 - Monday, February 23, 2004 at 17:56:31 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hi folks-A brand new week is here-hope you all have great weather and enjoy in good health.
- 68.194.42.188 - Tuesday, February 24, 2004 at 02:46:53 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Happy Fasching Dienstag, everybody!
Fasching - the time before Lent - was celebrated with much gusto in Gottschee. There was dancing and merrymaking and dressing up in costumes, following the old traditions, and especially the young people had a ball. Food also played a big part of the celebrations, and Krapfen were the star attraction! To equate Krapfen with doughnuts is to miss by a country mile, but it's the closest I can come.
So enjoy today - Lent starts tomorrow.

Herbert - thanks for reminding me! My piggybank looks awfully lean right now and I'll have to double up the weekly 'contributions' until I catch up!
- 64.229.236.214 - Tuesday, February 24, 2004 at 12:56:34 (UTC)

Trix:
Ridy, thanks for sharing these wonderful memories about life in Gottschee with all of us. I love hearing them. Now, if I could just get my act together and try making some Krapfen, life really would be great. Anyone want to send me some? WOULD LOVE THEM.

Have a good Lent. Again, Danke Ridy.
- 216.251.169.46 - Tuesday, February 24, 2004 at 16:04:31 (UTC)

Trix:
Thanks for your note Herbert. I am sorry too that your trip was cancelled. Shall we try for 2005? The GHGA will host another journey to Gottschee the last week in Mai and first in April. Would be very, very nice to meet up with you, and your excellent choir, at one of the Sunday masses. Think about it.

- 216.251.169.46 - Tuesday, February 24, 2004 at 16:06:11 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
ASH WEDNESDAY was the start of Lent in Gottschee, of course, but before everyone could get down to the serious business of fasting and doing penance, there was still the matter of having a proper send-off for the Fasching. All the young people were involved in this. They would make a figure out of straw, which now represented the Fasching, and they would form a very sad procession, with a lot of weeping, wailing, and moaning, carrying the Fasching to its grave. They also dug the grave, and cried copious tears as the Fasching was buried with great pomp and ceremony, to rest in peace for another year. In some areas of Gottschee, the Fasching met an untimely death in a bonfire.
- 64.229.236.214 - Wednesday, February 25, 2004 at 13:47:30 (UTC)

Trix:
Ridy, THANK YOU for this report on LIFE IN GOTTSCHEE. Just love it. Don't have any personal memories at all about it but do remember about the same costum in Austria. I LOVED the Krapfen. Darn it, just have to learn how to make them.
- 209.240.237.155 - Wednesday, February 25, 2004 at 16:56:41 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hello everyone

I just opened the Plauderzimmer log and found all the good stuff about Fasching. Ridy, you are really doing a fine job in educating some of us with all the things that went on at home. We, here in Cleveland burn our Fasching at our Fasching dance. We have a procession with all the masked people and children and then a eulogy is held about the Mr. Fasching's untimely death. We have Bernie Wiederwohl, who officiates at this ceremony. Then the Fasching is taken outside of the hall and burned. I tell you, I have never heard of the burning of a Fasching until we had it at our Club. Then, I read up on this on the internet and found several items about where this custom comes from. Very interesting.

I, along with a friend of the Donauschwaben in Cleveland host a German Radio program and we talk about different things we had at home and are still customs here in the States. I bring news from Gottschee over the Radio and my partner brings the news of the Donauschwaben. This makes it quite interesting to our listeners, who are not always of German or Gottscheer heritage. We have a lot of American listners and they truly enjoy this.

Enough said, thank you again for all the wonderful news

have a good evening.
- 64.12.113.9 - Friday, February 27, 2004 at 05:47:00 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hi Sophia

Thank you for your message, and as you see below, we are not going to Europe this year with the choir. I would like to go to the Minneapolis gathering, but I am not sure if I can get away from work at that time. I will try and let you know. Thank you again.

- 64.12.113.9 - Friday, February 27, 2004 at 05:50:25 (UTC)

regina Ramor gardner:
Hi! I just had to get to some of you ladies on the plaudezimmer. The news tonight was quit desturbing, so I am asking to talk to the ladies; would these ladies of the plaudezimmer be willing to let me talk to them by email because this is a female issue and I don't want the men to have to go through with any of it. I do have Ridy's email and of couse Sophia's and I hope to have Margaret J., Irene, Sharon E. and Hilde K. to send me their email if not here is my email and get in contact with me drgardner@shaw.ca This is a very urgent matter for all MOTHERS to consider! Please ladies get in touch with me I'am sure you will be very concerned also.
Sincerely Regina

Hope all is well and lots of Joy and Blessing to all.
We are fine, now that we have gotten over the stomach flu or Norwalk virus, awful thing to go through.
The weather here is warming up niecely about +5C. Some of the daffodils are poking their green leafs about two inches out of the ground. I hope spring is on it's way.

Happy, Belated Birthday to TRIX!

I also remember about Fasching and the Kapfen, very good to here.
I wonder if there is anything in the Gottscheer tradition about Shrove Tuesday? Here at our church we had a pancake supper. I don't remember ever doing anything special on the Tuesday before Ash Wednesday. Anyone with any ideas on this?

Well it is midnight and my pillow is calling me
Good night.
for now Regina

- 24.67.253.204 - Saturday, February 28, 2004 at 07:59:14 (UTC)

Trix:
Regina, Thanks for your message and PLEASE feel free to write to me. Have a good, good Saturday. Sunny here, temperatures around 40 and have 4 grandsons spending a long weekend. Fun, fun, fun.
- 209.240.237.166 - Saturday, February 28, 2004 at 15:48:57 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Wishing you all a very pleasant weekend...
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, February 28, 2004 at 19:19:59 (UTC)

Erna Cerne:
Dear Gerry Studier: I am so happy to have a friend like Trix of Minnesota who noticed your message and forwarded same to me. Please contact me at aecerne@aol.com. Erna Verderber Cerne. Thank you, Trix.
- 64.12.96.230 - Sunday, February 29, 2004 at 05:04:06 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hi Ridy

I was trying to send e-mail to you, but had it returned for wrong address. Could you send me your e-mail address again? thanks

Hilde

- 152.163.252.193 - Sunday, February 29, 2004 at 05:08:12 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hilde -
Can't get my own computer to work again, which means that I also can't access my e-mail on my usual address. Try sending me a message at
ridymaria@netscape.com
if you like. I seem to suffer from chronic computer problems. Sorry
- 64.229.236.214 - Monday, March 01, 2004 at 00:34:11 (UTC)

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- 209.42.192.2 - Monday, March 01, 2004 at 01:17:28 (UTC)

MargaretJonke:
Guten Abend. Will leave a quick message and hopefully return later. Hope all are well. Raining in KCMO right now. Our TV weatherpeople have predicted a pretty bad March. Don't know how accurate they might be. Hope it's not too bad.
- 171.75.224.43 - Monday, March 01, 2004 at 01:53:18 (UTC)

MargaretJonke:
Regina: Just sent you my email address. Let me know if you received it. OK?
- 171.75.224.43 - Monday, March 01, 2004 at 02:01:04 (UTC)

Rhonda Kren:
Greetings, Doing research for my father-in-law and was told to check this site out. So how does it work? Rhonda Kren
- 64.12.96.235 - Monday, March 01, 2004 at 02:43:44 (UTC)

Rhonda Kren:
Greetings, Doing research for my father-in-law and was told to check this site out. So how does it work? Rhonda Kren
- 64.12.96.235 - Monday, March 01, 2004 at 02:46:09 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Hi Rhonda,

A good place to start is to do a search of this site for certain keywords, surnames, etc.

Visit this link:
http://hwk.best.vwh.net/search.html
then if you have more questions, post your inquiry here:
http://hwk.best.vwh.net/gottscheebb

Good luck in your research!
- 24.3.22.21 - Monday, March 01, 2004 at 03:03:28 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Helmut, could you please send me an e-mail at wyants@mlecmn.net.

Thanks much.
- 209.240.245.159 - Wednesday, March 03, 2004 at 18:25:28 (UTC)

Helmuth:
All participants, please be advised we will not tolerate posts from people pretending they are someone else. Your entries will be deleted.
- 24.3.22.21 - Thursday, March 04, 2004 at 02:00:53 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy weekend everyone.
- 68.194.42.188 - Friday, March 05, 2004 at 20:55:09 (UTC)

Marie Kobetitch of Victoria:
While searching out the family name on the internet, I came upon your log and was reading references to my family name. I found Franz of Vancouver, and Hilde Kobetitsch log entries and references to a funeral in Vancouver. I was born in Vancouver my grandparents were Simon and Louise Kobetitch (Simon dropped the "s" from the name to simiplify it apparently). I grew up knowing that I was related to all of the Kobetitich's at that time in Canada. My granfather Simon had a brother or two brothers who resided in the US. Possibly Kentucky, I am not certain to be honest although I did have the good fortune to meet one of my great uncles in the 60's. My grandmother passed away and her funeral was in Vancouver although this was now quite some time ago in 1995. I am not aware of a more recent funeral of the Kobetitch/Kobetitsch in Vancouver, although this does not mean one of my relations did not pass. I found the log entries interesting and certainly hope you do not mind my posting some feedback.
- 24.68.96.212 - Sunday, March 07, 2004 at 06:59:44 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer- Wyant:
Gottscheer greetings from Minnesota to you Marie. Good to meet you. The Mrs. Kobetitsch that has been mentioned in this colum recently was a Lini Kobetitsch born in Warmberg, Gottschee. She is the mother of at least 2 daughters - Ida and Erna that I know personally. There may be more children but I do not know them.

I would love to hear from you. Please write me at: wyants@mlecmn.net.

I was born in the Tschermoschnitz area of Gottschee and have many relatives who live in Vancouver.

Auf Wiederh�hren.
- 209.240.237.152 - Sunday, March 07, 2004 at 14:51:25 (UTC)

Marie Kobetitch of Victoria:
I am very sorry I keep sending my original message. I am writing this again in hopes that this time I have properly reset the form. Thank you Sophia for getting back to me. I have added your address to my book and will investigate further the names you provided.
- 24.68.96.212 - Sunday, March 07, 2004 at 23:56:36 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Trust all had a good week and are feeling well. Lovely and springlike in KCMO the last 2 days. Record rain before that. Flash flooding everywhere.
- 171.75.205.6 - Monday, March 08, 2004 at 02:03:46 (UTC)

Rhonda Kren:
Greetings from Idaho. I have been transcribing parish records and still have many questions about what happen to the Kren's in Koflern. Can anyone tell me if there is cemetery, obituaries and someone that is willing to look?
- 64.12.116.205 - Monday, March 08, 2004 at 02:41:50 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Dear Marie Kobetitch,
Nice to hear from you. Sophie is related to you --- she is your 4th and 5th cousin. Not sure exactly where the links come in. There could be other tie ins. So many of us are related at some point. Guess it comes from being from such a small area.
- 64.12.116.207 - Monday, March 08, 2004 at 03:17:05 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Rhonda,
I think the cemetary for Koflern would have been in Mitterdorf. According to the book of existing Gottscheer cemetaries in Slovenia, Mitterdorf has five cemetary plots with Gottscheer names but none named Kren. I don't know if there were other areas where Koflern villagers might have been buried and I am sure many of the graves were destroyed during and after WW II. Perhaps someone else will have more information.
- 64.12.116.202 - Monday, March 08, 2004 at 03:24:07 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Hi Rhonda: Dr. Jim is correct. The village of Kofler belonged ot the Parish of Mitterdorf by Gottschee. There is another village of Mitterdorf but it is located in the eastern part of the former Gottschee that's why we write Mitterdorf by Gottschee (meaning the city). I have no doubt that Dr. Jim is also correct when he refers to the cemetery book which shows 5 standing Gottscheer gravestones for Kren.
- 216.251.169.12 - Monday, March 08, 2004 at 03:34:37 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Dr. Jim - in your message to Marie Kobetitsch you refer to a Sophie being your 4th and 5th cousin. Sophie who?
- 216.251.169.12 - Monday, March 08, 2004 at 03:35:47 (UTC)

Rhonda Kren:
Thanks for your reply. I'm looking for Josef Kren (died 1931) and Maria Tschinkel Kren, died 1928. From the birth records I'm transcribing I know of seven of their children died prior to them. Is there someone that can take pictures?
- 64.12.96.102 - Monday, March 08, 2004 at 04:08:49 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Rhonda: I am sorry but I erred regarding the gravestons in the cemetery of Mitterdorf (where the people from Koflern) would have been buried. There are 4 gravestones standing but none for Kren. I misread Dr. Jim's message.

I am wondering if Ludwig Kren, a well known and respected Gottscheer who lives in Austria might be of help to you. He comes from the village of Mitterdorf. If you are interested in writing to him let me know and I shall gladly mail you his address. I believe he reads English well.
- 216.251.169.12 - Monday, March 08, 2004 at 04:23:02 (UTC)

Rhonda Kren:
Sophia, That would be wonderful. Thanks for the help. Please send me his address. Thanks
- 64.12.116.78 - Monday, March 08, 2004 at 04:37:40 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Mr. Ludwig Kren
A-9131 MARIA RAIN
Fliederweg 9
K�rnten, Austria

Good luck to you. Let us know what you learn.
- 216.251.169.12 - Monday, March 08, 2004 at 05:04:47 (UTC)

Rhonda Kren:
Sophia, Thanks, I will let you know what I find. I have Film # 1416476 Births for Mitterdorf 1890-1907 transcribed and ready to send to the GHGA. Thanks Rhonda Kren
- 64.12.97.14 - Monday, March 08, 2004 at 05:18:43 (UTC)

Marie Kobetitch of Victoria:
Jim Heimann
Thank you so much for your response. You are very knowledgable on these genealogical matters. I unfortunately am not. I do know that my Aunt has spent much time researching the family tree and for all I know she obtained her information through these same contacts. To elaborate on the record, my Grandparents were Simon and Louise Kobetitch (at this time I do not have record of her maiden name). They had 5 children, Ernest, Walter, Bertha, Herbert (my father) and Helen. Helen's married name is Johnson. I certainly wish I could offer more names as there was a very close knit group of family members in Vancouver. Ernest Nick I recall. Unfortunately my Aunt Olga and Unlce Joseph I cannot supply a surname for. It is very interesting to discover more about my lineage. As children we were not taught the language and had very little knowledge passed of the old country. Other than my grandfather making some of the best wine I have ever tasted, and my grandmother making sausage that one would die for....(I was not blessed with either of these talents) it is very enriching and my children who are adults and married are very interested in learning more. My email is mbauder@shaw.ca and would appreciate any more information anyone cares to share!
- 24.68.96.212 - Monday, March 08, 2004 at 06:04:02 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Hi out there does anyone know if the person who won the bike race on sunday from Paris to Nice is a Gottscheer his name is Jorg Jaksche of Germany , there was a Jaksche who lived in my Village of mitterdorf near Tschermoschnitz this could be his Grandson.
- 24.69.255.237 - Tuesday, March 09, 2004 at 02:05:29 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Trix,

sorry----- Sophie is you === Sophia. You and Marie Kobetitch are related.
- 152.163.253.101 - Wednesday, March 10, 2004 at 04:00:56 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
YIPPEE! That makes me very happy. I think we are related through the Kapsch from Drandul by Tschermoschnitz.

Look forward to sharing a lot with you Maria.
- 209.240.237.136 - Wednesday, March 10, 2004 at 04:06:10 (UTC)

Marie Kobetitch of Victoria:
Sophia,
I am looking forward to more commmunication with you as well. I have to be honest, I was frightened to come back into the log as it seemed I kept resending the original messages. I hope I have worked the kinks out so as not to keep on resending. Keep my fingers crossed I have this figured out now!
- 24.68.96.212 - Wednesday, March 10, 2004 at 07:47:52 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Wish you all a very good weekend.
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, March 13, 2004 at 05:45:33 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
The same to you Paul and also to all the other visitors to this excellent Plauderzimmer. It is a nasty day in Minnesota - cloudy, gray, blowing and some snowing. Time for spring to arrive.

Smile everyone and think happy thoughts.
- 209.240.245.132 - Saturday, March 13, 2004 at 16:35:27 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
what happen to our spring weather earlier? now it's just snow and cold weather again.
- 199.243.153.5 - Saturday, March 13, 2004 at 19:18:11 (UTC)

Franz:
Its a beautiful sunny Sunday morning here in Vancouver, British Columbia. Sorry to hear some are still having winter. Hope Spring arrives soon for all of you, you've had enough of the cold stuff.
- 24.69.255.237 - Saturday, March 13, 2004 at 20:31:37 (UTC)

Franz:
Hello again. That should have been "a sunny Saturday morning here" Went to church this morning so got myself mixed up for a minute there.
- 24.69.255.237 - Saturday, March 13, 2004 at 20:35:57 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Franz, I am sure you have lots of company on that-I often go half a day thinking it is the wrong day.But of course , I am as old as Methusela-and if I spelled that wrong, I still am that old..Have a good weekend Franz...
- 68.194.42.188 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 00:32:48 (UTC)

Trix:
Just LOVE your sense of humor Paul. Keep sharing - it makes us all smile.
- 216.251.169.156 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 00:48:59 (UTC)

Franz:
Paul, thanks for that, now I don't feel so dumb. Trix is right you have a great sense of humour. Hope this only goes once this time. So Marie of Victoria you don't have to worry about resending the same message, it happens to many of us.
- 24.69.255.237 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 00:56:20 (UTC)

Martha Tilley:

Message for Dr. Jim Heinman:

- 206.116.195.242 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 21:01:11 (UTC)

Eduard Stalzer:
Hello everyone!
- 207.5.216.228 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 21:04:32 (UTC)

Eduard Stalzer:
Hello everyone!
- 207.5.216.228 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 21:04:48 (UTC)

Eduard Stalzer:
Hello everyone!
- 207.5.216.228 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 21:04:54 (UTC)

Eduard Stalzer:
Hello everyone!
- 207.5.216.228 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 21:05:03 (UTC)

Martha Tilley:
I was told to contact you re genealogy info. I have a cousin in Graz who would like to find a little more on her father's side of her family tree. Her name is Traude Tscherne (nee Moschner). Her father's name is Johann Moschner, born in Aschelitz on January 9, 1904. All she has is the names of his parents which are Andreas Moschner and Maria Schober. Would you be able to help her out at all? She doesn't have a computer so if you could send any info to me at gtilley@telus.net I'm sure she would be very grateful. Thank you very much and bye for now.
- 206.116.195.242 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 21:05:23 (UTC)

Eduard Stalzer:
Hello everyone!
- 207.5.216.228 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 21:07:52 (UTC)

Eduard Stalzer:
Hello everyone!
- 207.5.216.228 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 21:07:55 (UTC)

Eduard Stalzer:
Hello everyone!
- 207.5.216.228 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 21:08:00 (UTC)

Eduard Stalzer:
Hello everyone!
- 207.5.216.228 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 21:08:07 (UTC)

Franz:
Hello Eduard:
Where are you writing from. I am in Vancouver, Canada
- 24.69.255.237 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 21:19:21 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Hi Martha. Your message received and forwarded. Hope to be able to be of help. Always good to hear from another Moschnitze Gottscheer. Hope all is well in Vancouver. It is a very nasty, wintry day in Minnesota. Greet your mother and brother.
- 209.240.245.138 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 21:48:37 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Looking for stories and/or photos on the village of Tschermoschnitz, Gottschee. The church of Maria Himmelfahrt will celebrate its 500 year anniversary in 2009. In addition to doing major repairs to the church, possible with your many, generous donations, a book will be printed telling the history along with photos of the church and village and surrounding area. We are interested in personal stories as told by the Gottscheer from that area along with any and all photos, particularly those prior to 1941. Send your materials to: Sophia Stalzer-Wyant
36797 - 500th Lane,
Palisade, Minnesota 56469.

Please identify the photo along with date, if possible, and include your name and address on the back. PLEASE DO NOT write this information on the photo but rather on a piece of paper which you can attach to the photos. Also, please let me know if you wish the photos returned.

Your help in this important project will be greatly appreciated. With your help if will be another important project on the preservation of the culture and history of Gottschee and the Gottscheers.

If questions please write to me at wyants@mlecmn.net

Danke vielmals!!!!!
- 209.240.245.138 - Sunday, March 14, 2004 at 21:57:06 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all are well and enjoying nice weather. KCMO has been cool and rainy, but much better than the snow and ice we had in Feb.
- 171.75.239.71 - Monday, March 15, 2004 at 02:15:24 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Eddie Stalzer: This is your cousin, Margie. Didn't know you still logged on to the PZ. Hope Nancy and Krista and well. How's the weather in New Hampshire.
- 171.75.239.71 - Monday, March 15, 2004 at 02:16:36 (UTC)

Franz:
Margaret:
Are you by any chance related to a Sophie Jonke of Vancouver?
- 24.69.255.237 - Monday, March 15, 2004 at 03:18:22 (UTC)

Jim:
Franz, if you have more information on Sophie Jonke, I may be able to tell if Margaret and Sophie are related. I sent some information to your sister. I hope it has been helpful.
- 152.163.252.135 - Tuesday, March 16, 2004 at 23:08:06 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Dr Heinman [Jim]
I want to thank you for your offer but it is not of any great importance I have not been in touch with this person in about 30 years it was only when I saw the name that I wondered if perhaps there was a connection .
this ladies folks and mein were good friends. thank Jim.
- 24.69.255.237 - Wednesday, March 17, 2004 at 13:14:40 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Wishing a Happy St. Patrick Day to everyone.I am not Irish, and I am (as some of you know) a GBM, but I have celebrated this holiday since I was a kid. This is the first year that my Gottscheer Wife has not made corned beef and cabbage for this day. But we will have it this week yet, if we ever get to the store, and if they have any corned beef left...
- 68.194.42.188 - Wednesday, March 17, 2004 at 20:11:24 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Hi Ted .
I just want to say thank you for all the trouble you have gone to find our man Jaksche, the winner of the Paris to Nice bike race.
I do belive he must be a Gottscheer because it is not a very common Name.It is a beautiful sunny morning here in Vancouver.
- 24.69.255.237 - Sunday, March 21, 2004 at 15:56:15 (UTC)

PAUL B.:
HAPPY SUNDAY EVERONE-IT IS A BRIGHT SUNNY DAY HERE ON LONG ISLAND IN N.Y. WISH YOU ALL THE SAME..
- 68.194.42.188 - Sunday, March 21, 2004 at 19:20:21 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Help. what does an upside down e mean in a word? I'm trying to translate a paragraph and it has an upside down "e".
- 199.243.152.173 - Sunday, March 21, 2004 at 19:47:51 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Sharon
in my dictionary it discribes it as [adjust,bacillus,colony
- 24.69.255.237 - Sunday, March 21, 2004 at 20:56:19 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Sharon: We think it is somthing like �, or eh. does this make any sense .

- 24.69.255.237 - Sunday, March 21, 2004 at 21:15:26 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I'll try and see if that fits in the translator.
- 199.243.152.180 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 02:04:20 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
And how is everyone in the chat room tonite. I have not checked in for a long time.
- 198.81.26.14 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 02:18:26 (UTC)

jMargaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Who's on tonight?? Can't stay long. Wanted to say "hi" to everyone.
- 67.74.28.5 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 02:30:34 (UTC)

jMargaret Jonke:
Sharon: Upside down, backwards e in English is schwa. Does that help? Or were you meaning German?
- 67.74.28.5 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 02:31:46 (UTC)

jMargaret Jonke:
Franz: There is a possibility that we are related to a Sophie Yonke in Vancouver. My oma was a Jonke before AND after marriage and we have a TON of cousins. However, never heard of any Vancouver connection. Sorry
- 67.74.28.5 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 02:34:20 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I'm still here. I'm between web pages but I keep checking in.
- 199.243.152.180 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 02:36:50 (UTC)

jMargaret Jonke:
Franz: Just emailed Pete Yonke in Pensacola. He and I are 3rd cousins. He did our family tree and what a super job he did? He might be able to help with Sophie Yonke. Will let you know next week.
- 67.74.28.5 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 02:38:23 (UTC)

jMargaret Jonke:
Sorry. Must log off. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 67.74.28.5 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 02:42:48 (UTC)

Gottscheer Freund:
Sharon, one explanation of the upside down �e� is when writing a word in the phonetic alphabet for the purpose of getting across to the reader the accepted pronunciation of a word. The upside down �e� is sometimes used in connection with other letters to make the complete pronunciation of a word. For instance, the word �fir� is phonetically written: �fəɹ� with the �i� and �r� upside down. The word �earth� is phonetically spelled: �əɹ��. The second �e� in �ever� is written upside down. This may or may not be the answer to your question. Note, the two "squares" above did not get transcribed on my computer fonts. Each should have come through an upside down "r".
- 209.42.192.2 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 02:48:14 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I was trying to translate something from the Gottscheer Zeitung paper that I have. I was using the Alta Vista translator web site.
- 199.243.152.180 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 02:53:26 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Just wanted to say hello to everyone. Have not been on for quite a while and I hope everyone is doing well. The weather is just horribe tonight. I went to the radio station to do my program and it took me almost 2 hours to get home. Normally it is 45 minutes. The streets were like a mirror, all ice and I almost got into several accidents. I just don't know what to do when I start sliding, by the time I got home I figured it out.

It sometimes takes me awhile to figure things out.

Hope to talk to you all again.

Hilde

- 205.188.209.74 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 03:25:32 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Hi any hocky fans out there from Columbus, why is the club called blue jackets.
- 24.69.255.237 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 04:01:56 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Hi Franz,

The answer as I understand it, is based on the Civil War. Ohio provided more "blue jackets" (Union soldiers) than any other state. From what I understand the city (and Nationwide Insurance, who underwrote the team and construction of the arena) took a lot of heat for the name but it stuck. There's also the bug connotation "yellow jacket", one of their logo's is a blue stinging bug. Go figure. One fan said, "at least it's not the 'mighty ducks'".

- 24.3.22.21 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 12:36:27 (UTC)

Jim:
Dear Helmuth;

Thanks for the interesting information about the team name. I always thought it was just another insect based name like Wasps, Hornets and so on.
- 152.163.252.69 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 13:21:42 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:

Yes I too thought it was some sort of a bug. I said to my wife it is probably somthing like a yellow jacket or a wasp that is common to that area.
Thanks for the interesting info.
- 24.69.255.237 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 15:12:50 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Funny you should mention that. Pittsburgh used to have a minor league hockey franchise called the Hornets, this was pre-'67, after which the city got the Penguins in the big NHL expansion.

Franz, are you a Canucks fan? I'm hoping the Predators can make it to the playoffs this year for the first time (we have a summer place in Tennessee).
- 24.3.22.21 - Monday, March 22, 2004 at 20:39:13 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Hi Helmuth:
Yes I am a loyal Canuck fan but they haven't given us much to cheer about this last 6 games or so. Maybe they will make the playoffs yet we will just have to wait and see. The Predators have about the same chance as the Canucks to make it this year. We are about 6th and they are in 8th (I think)
- 24.69.255.237 - Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 03:29:29 (UTC)

Nose it all:
Helmuth, speaking of the 1967 expansion, I was a fan of the California Seals (the last NHL team to fold btw). I currently like the Sharks.
- 66.87.94.144 - Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 10:34:05 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Franz, I know, how unfortunate about the Bertuzzi incident. You still have a very talented team. I am still fuming that the Penguins gave up on Naslund.

Nose, I think you're right about the last team to fold, all the others were franchise relocations.
- 170.201.180.35 - Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 14:11:43 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Well Helmuth our Canucks finally pulled one out of the fire, so to speak.
- 24.69.255.237 - Thursday, March 25, 2004 at 05:58:54 (UTC)

Franz von Vancouver:
Ted got your E card very nice.
Thank you.
- 24.69.255.237 - Thursday, March 25, 2004 at 06:04:26 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy weekend everyone..
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 00:45:34 (UTC)

NEW MAN :
hi
- 141.151.176.59 - Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 01:59:14 (UTC)

NEW MAN :
Dude, work on the picture man, you look like an old man

- 141.151.176.59 - Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 02:01:17 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Can you help?

I am collecting photographs of Gottscheer Handarbeiten � embroidered wall hangings, tablecloths, garments, shawls, belts, etc. � the sort of items which Gottscheer women would have worked on in their spare time back home in pre-1941 Gottschee. Progress has been slow, but encouraging.

I will make the collection available on CD later this year, and most likely also on the internet, for anyone who is interested.

When photographing these items, please try to use a dark background, and good lighting, to make reproduction of the photographs possible. Either a digital or 35mm camera works fine.

Thank you!

ridy@sympatico.ca

- 64.229.225.53 - Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 13:40:39 (UTC)

gottscheer:
kommt nach deutschland deutsche!!!deutsche vereinigt euch!!!veratet euer land nich!!!
- 217.224.12.253 - Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 15:58:30 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
What a GREAT idea Ridy. CONGRATULATIONS and good luck. Please put me down to be the first purchaser of the CD. I know it will be another excellent project well done by a talented Gottscheerin - Ridy.

- 209.240.245.174 - Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 16:09:37 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Schade, das auch in diesem Plauderzimmer scheinbar Besucher sind welche sich ihres eignenem Namen sch�men und nur anonym ihre Meinung �ussern. Das finde ich einfach feig.
It is regrettable that among the visitors in this Plauderzimmer there are some visitors who appear to be ashamed of their own names and only express an opinion anonymously. I find that cowardly.
- 64.229.225.53 - Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 16:54:52 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Yes Ridy, I agree.
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, March 27, 2004 at 17:25:43 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth Canucks win an other one beginning to look better.

- 24.69.255.237 - Sunday, March 28, 2004 at 06:31:34 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Indeed, Canucks have clinched. Predators are barely hanging on to the 8th playoff spot.
- 24.3.22.21 - Sunday, March 28, 2004 at 21:36:16 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Don't want this to get lost at the bottom of the heap - hope you don't mind if I run it again. Thanks. . . .Ridy
Can you help?

I am collecting photographs of Gottscheer Handarbeiten � embroidered wall hangings, tablecloths, garments, shawls, belts, etc. � the sort of items which Gottscheer women would have worked on in their spare time back home in pre-1941 Gottschee. Progress has been slow, but encouraging.

I will make the collection available on CD later this year, and most likely also on the internet, for anyone who is interested.

When photographing these items, please try to use a dark background, and good lighting, to make reproduction of the photographs possible. Either a digital or 35mm camera works fine.

Thank you!

ridy@sympatico.ca
- 64.229.222.42 - Sunday, March 28, 2004 at 21:59:49 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Ridy, will ask one of my cousins to see if she has anything from the old country. The only thing I have is a picture of my Schauer grandfather and his family.
- 205.188.116.74 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 02:03:51 (UTC)

Elfriede Stonitsch:
Ridy, I will take a picture of a bedspread and table doily my mother embroidered before she was married. It was one of the few things she brought out of Gottschee during the resettlement and that she brought to the US. I had framed one of the doilies and I look at it every day.
- 64.12.117.10 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 02:12:49 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope this Sunday finds you all well and enjoying springlike weather. Cold front coming tonight. Cover the plants.
- 65.58.52.71 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 02:20:02 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:

ridy: I have my oma's nightgown, one of the few things she brought from Gottschee. I can take a picture of it and send it to you via the internet. OK?
- 65.58.52.71 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 02:21:33 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Franz: Have not heard from my cousin, Pete Yonke, about Sophie Yonke and whether she is/is not a relative. I'll keep working on it. Sorry
- 65.58.52.71 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 02:26:11 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: I lost your email address. Sorry to trouble, but could you send it to me again. Thanks a bunch.
- 65.58.52.71 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 02:27:58 (UTC)

rhonda Kren:
Hi, I'm transcriping some parish records and have a question regarding Mooswald. Was it considered apart of Mitterdorf parish? All the births are numbered expect for this city and the same couple too. Thanks
- 205.188.116.138 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 02:51:32 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Rhonda: According to my information the village of Mooswald belonged to the City of Gottschee Parish.

Greetings from Minnesota to you all. Another gray, rainy and dreary day - 3 more to go they tell us. Spring is near.
- 209.240.237.148 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 03:10:11 (UTC)

Rhonda Kren:
Sophia: I think it is interesting that each entry for this couple has Mitterdorf 10 crossed out and Mooswald #1 listed. All the births are numbered except for Andreas Petsche and Josefa Jaklitsch's three children. Any clues?
- 205.188.116.77 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 03:31:05 (UTC)

Sophia:
Sorry but I have no clue but I am sure there are many others out there who will have the answer for you. Good luck on your work.
- 209.240.237.148 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 04:30:23 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Hi Rhonda,
It is possible that part of Mooswald could have at one time been in Mitterdorf Parish. I found a map of the parishes and it shows Mooswald as being on the border of Mitterdorf and Gottschee Parishes. Here is the link if you are interested.

http://www.gottschee.de/Frames/Mainframe/Deutsch/Landkarten%20Archiv%20Y.htm
- 198.26.118.36 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 04:36:57 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Hi John. Thanks. Good to hear from you again. hope all is going well with the Herbst Family.
- 209.240.237.148 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 04:42:26 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
We are doing well. I'm making a run for the legislature this year. I had been thinking about it this year, but didn't know with all things going on my life right if I should a try. Several neighbors wanted me to run and so I decided it was my civic duty. I complain all the time about what goes on in the legislature and so now I'm putting my money where my mouth is. I think it was more a moment of insanity.
- 198.26.118.37 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 04:56:23 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
How is Clint doing? I know you said that you thought he actually was doing better since you moved him. Life has so many hard choices and sometimes the thing we don't want to do is best for the individual.
- 198.26.118.36 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 04:59:05 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
CONGRATULATIONS John. Big decision but a good one. When you have things up and running I would enjoy some of your campaign material. You know I am wishing you all the best even though you are in the wrong party - ha, ha. The world is in turmoil at the moment - hope that changes and hopefully for the better.

Clint continues to do well. Enjoys the center, all the activities, the friendships and good food. For that matter, I love eating there too. Life, in spite of it all, is good and we are very grateful that this huge move has been such a positive experience.

Think of you often and always enjoyed visiting with you. Perhaps the GHGA will return to SLC, where it all started, one of these years. Would enjoy seeing you again.
- 209.240.237.148 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 05:26:38 (UTC)

hilde kobetitsch:
Jim Heimann

Hello and I hope you are well. I see in your message that you are referring to a grandparent of the Schauer name? Where would that Schauer be from? I have a friend in Cleveland, Joe Schauer, whose father is from Moesel in Gottschee. Joe is looking for information about his grandparents, but has had no luck at all. Joe's parents are both deceased. That is the problem when we start looking for our ancestors and our parents are no longer here, it is quite difficult to find anything. I was just wondering about the Schauer from your family. thanks

- 64.12.116.66 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 05:32:08 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Hey Trix,
You can check out my website at http://www.geocities.com/herbstforthehouse

It's not to exciting of a website, just enough info to get me recognized. In Utah we have party conventions and you have to have 60% or more of the votes in your distict to win, if you don't make the 60% you go to a primary. Right now I'm just trying to smooze delegates to vote for me.
- 198.26.118.36 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 05:38:17 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hilde,

If you can get more information about Joe's parents, I can look around. Dates and any siblings would help. You can email me the information and I will poke around a wee bit.
- 152.163.253.72 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 13:52:15 (UTC)

Irene:
Hi, everyone,
I have good news. I show no evidence of cancer on my last reports. I have been lurking and reading everyone's messages. Best wishes to all.
- 24.195.35.116 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 16:08:28 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer=Wyant:
Irene - how wonderful. So good to hear the great news. Stay well, continue typing and drop a note as time permits.
- 209.240.245.138 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 16:31:30 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
To Rhonda Kren: I am no expert on Gottschee Parishes but my records do show a couple of other Gottschee villages as being in both Gottschee Parish and Mitterdorf Parish. My guess is that a few villages were originally in Mitterdorf Parish but later became part of the larger Gottscheee Parish. I have the villages Kerndorf and Malgern marked this way, as I have seen entries for these villages with both parishes attached to them. Perhaps Mooswald village is the same way. Good luck.
- 68.86.80.195 - Monday, March 29, 2004 at 19:27:24 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Hello all:
Our cable was done for about a week so I missed the Sunday night chat line. Nice to see so many on it. Had to watch the hockey game through a very snowy screen.They have finally fixed it this morning.
Margaret: thank you, will wait to hear re:Sophie

Ridy: sorry, we didn't get to bring anything out of Gottschee( just ourselves). Wish you lots of luck.

Great weather here in Vancouver.

- 24.69.255.237 - Tuesday, March 30, 2004 at 00:08:34 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Wishing you all a very nice weekend and Palm Sunday.
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, April 03, 2004 at 05:11:25 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Greetings to all tonight. I have a question concerning the Gottscheer language. I understand it was German, with a twist to it. What other language influenced the Gottscheer dialect? Was it Slovenian? Also I know there is a high and a low German. Is there a high and low Gottscheeritsch? Any input on this language's history would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
- 68.86.80.195 - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 00:52:16 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi Gregg, sorry I don't have an answer for you. One of my Grandparents spoke high German and the other spoke low German. I bet that would have be interesting when they got into arguements.
- 199.243.153.4 - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 01:47:09 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Sorry to be so late. Got home late from ND
Wish all a Happy Easter. Will be gone next Sunday.
- 4.244.57.66 - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 02:19:18 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
happy easter margaret
- 199.243.153.4 - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 02:20:26 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
A Happy Easter to everyone. Is anyone still online?
- 205.188.116.11 - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 02:51:45 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I keep checking in
- 199.243.153.4 - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 02:59:12 (UTC)

Trix:
Good Evening to you all. Checking in to wish you a good week and a Blessed Easter. We have enjoyed some beautiful weather the last 3 days and the snow is gone, well, for now at least. We are ready for the next storm (it usually happens) but we know it won't last.

Life is busy and the days go quickly. Project Gottschee still gets much of my time and attention and continues to be a marvelous learning experience and recollection of memories.

Greg, I wish I could give specific ansers to your inquiry regarding the Gottscheer Dialect. I know the subject has been fully researched and I will make it a point to make some contacts with those who know much about the topic.

Again, have a GREAT week,stay well and think happy thoughts.

- 216.251.169.175 - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 03:14:47 (UTC)

Irene:
To everyone,
Have a blessed holy week and a Happy Easter.
- 24.195.39.217 - Monday, April 05, 2004 at 18:32:45 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hi Jim

Thank you for your kind information. I will get back to you as soon as I get the information from Joe. Thanks again and have a blessed Easter, both you and your family.

- 205.188.116.71 - Tuesday, April 06, 2004 at 03:51:19 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Easter week customs in Gottschee:
"During the mass on Gr�ndonnerstag, Thursday during Easter week, the bells, as well as the church organ, were silenced. We said that the bells had flown to Rome. For the rest of the mass, and until the Resurrection on Holy Saturday, wooden clappers were used in church by the mass servers, in place of the little bells they would normally ring, and the choir sang without accompaniment. With the church bells silenced, ratchets were used in the bell tower, and they were operated at the times when the bells would normally ring.

Arnold particularly looked forward to Gr�ndonnerstag, Holy Thursday. All the boys in town had to gather up wooden crates and boxes. In addition, the local carpenters built large wooden hammers for the boys. Around three o'clock in the afternoon of Gr�ndonnerstag, and again on Karfreitag, Good Friday, they all gathered in the square in front of the church with their boxes and wooden hammers. When the signal was given they had to smash those boxes with the hammers. This was usually loud enough to be heard throughout the city. It symbolized the nailing of Christ on the Cross, and the noise was also supposed to be loud enough to drive all the evil spirits out of the church and the town. The wood was used to build the fire early on Karsamstag, Holy Saturday, which was then blessed and distributed to every home."
(from our book "Memories of Childhood" by Arnold Rom and myself)
- 64.229.223.225 - Thursday, April 08, 2004 at 00:04:14 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Ridy; You have a good memory, you told it just like I remember it. And all the people took baskets full of food to church to get blessed.On Easter Sunday we got to eat the blessed food usually smoked ham, smoked sausages (birschtlein), boiled eggs, green onions etc. Nice memories
- 24.69.255.236 - Thursday, April 08, 2004 at 04:29:03 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hello everyone and I would like to wish all of the Gottscheers and their families Frohe Ostern.

I too have wonderful memories of the way Easter was celebrated by the Gottscheer families. My memories of course only go back to Graz. My parents still kept all of the old traditions and celebrations. Easter was one of my favorite Holy days. I was also in the church choir in Graz and this made it more beautiful when the children entoned the first song on Easter Sunday.

I still try to continue with the blessing of the food for my grandchildren, that is about all they do besides going to Mass. Good memories and thank you all for sharing them with us.

Have a wonderful and blessed Easter.

- 205.188.116.138 - Friday, April 09, 2004 at 01:23:27 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good Friday:
�In Gottschee, as everywhere else, there was no mass on Good Friday, only the Stations of the Cross in the evening. In the City of Gottschee Schutzw�chter (guards) were posted at the grave of Christ around the clock, and they changed guards at regular intervals. In the villages the �guards� were usually cut out of heavy cardboard, painted, and set in front of the grave.�
- 64.229.223.225 - Friday, April 09, 2004 at 01:46:47 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Ridy, thank you for your recollections of the Easter traditions. None survived in my family and Easter was, therefore, less than it could have been. I wonder if the Gottscheer community in New York kept them going for a time. They sound wonderful. The blessing of the food sounds familiar but nothing else.
- 152.163.252.97 - Friday, April 09, 2004 at 13:39:42 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I would like to wish everyone a Happy Easter. Enjoy the day and the family. We will be having Easter brunch followed by a short break and then my motherinlaw will bring forth the Italian specialties accompanied by assorted wines and libations.
- 152.163.253.2 - Friday, April 09, 2004 at 13:41:00 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
I too wish everyone Frohe ostern in particular to ted Meditz in Germany . I received your card today thank you .
Ted du solst dich einmal da anmelden.
- 24.69.255.236 - Friday, April 09, 2004 at 15:00:11 (UTC)

PaulB.:
To everyone and their families:Adie and I wish you all a Blessed Easter holiday.Please pray for all our service men and women and families...Thank You.
- 68.194.42.188 - Friday, April 09, 2004 at 20:18:04 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
"Easter Saturday in Gottschee started early with the blessing of the fire in the church yard, and the mass servers brought a piece of the burning wood or glowing coal to each house, for which they received some coins as a tip. Each housewife lit a fire in her oven with this piece of blessed fire, and the family had to make sure that the fire did not go out during the Easter feast days.

When the Gloria was sung at mass that morning, the bells started to peal again, and the organ again accompanied the singers. Before the Easter procession started late in the afternoon, the bells pealed for an entire hour. Among the items carried in the procession on individual small pillows were nails, representing the nails with which Christ had been nailed to the cross, a hammer, and dice, which had been used by the soldiers to decide who would get to keep Christ�s robe. The processions each wound their way through the City and through the village and back to the church again, proclaiming to one and all that Christ had risen. It doubled as our Easter Parade � a chance to show off our finery.

At some point in the afternoon the blessing of the food took place in church. There was an old superstition that the first single young woman to exit the church would be a bride that year. Naturally, all the young women with hopes in that direction made a mad dash out of the church as soon as the blessing was finished. They could always fall back on the worn old excuse that they had to get home to help mother with the cooking."

- 64.229.223.225 - Saturday, April 10, 2004 at 11:59:12 (UTC)

Gerhard:
W�nsche Euch ALLEN ein friedvolles Osterfest.

Liebe Gr��e aus �sterreich
Gerhard
- 81.189.79.247 - Saturday, April 10, 2004 at 15:20:01 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
�On Easter Sunday in Gottschee the choir started to sing in front of the church long before dawn and the young men of the parish shot off mortar shells on the nearby hills. After they depleted their musical repertoire they entered the church, and as an extra act of humility and penance, prayed the rosary while walking around the altar on their knees. At 7:00 a.m. they returned home for the Easter Breakfast. Later in the morning all the parishioners attended the celebration of the festive high mass. That was followed by the traditional Easter dinner at noon, which in my Grandmother Mausser�s home always meant Backhendel but in Arnold�s home was lamb. Lamb was also served in my father�s home. In the early afternoon there was another Devotion in Church, which included a sung litany. The rest of the day was given to socializing.
Easter Monday started the day with a high mass, but the rest of the day was reserved for socializing and partying, including singing, dancing, and bowling. Easter Monday was also the day the P�rgarә (the Burghers) or Stodlarә (the city folks) liked to visit their favorite Gasth�user in the villages and sample the delicious foods they found there. The young people played a game (Eierpecken) whereby they tried to hit the hard-boiled eggs with coins, and if the coin stuck in the egg, they got to keep the money, and eat the egg. These old traditions and customs differed slightly from region to region, and even from village to village, but generally speaking, Gottscheers followed similar customs throughout the land.�
HAPPY EASTER, EVERYBODY!
- 64.229.223.225 - Sunday, April 11, 2004 at 12:02:55 (UTC)

Edith Eisenk�lbl:
I would like to wish all Gottscheers HAPPY EASTER,specially Ridy, Sophia, Jim Heimann and Franz of Vancouver.
Edith from Kapfenberg, Austria
- 62.47.29.109 - Sunday, April 11, 2004 at 13:17:36 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Edith:
Thank you for your kind greetings from Austria. We send the same to you and yours.Hope all is well and your weather is improving.
Franz and family.
- 24.69.255.236 - Sunday, April 11, 2004 at 15:11:38 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
To all the Gottscheers and visitors, here in the Plauderzimmer and around the world, Familie Stalzer-Wyant (Moschnitze area) send you warm greetings and best wishes for a wonderful Easter holiday. Stay well, remember our ancestors and THANK YOU for sharing those important memories. Ridy, as always, excellent job.

- 209.240.245.139 - Sunday, April 11, 2004 at 15:40:09 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Gr�� Dich Edith und vielen Dank f�r Dein Schreiben. Ein recht Frohes Osterfest and Dich und die Deinen. Bleib gsund und ich hoffe mal auf ein Wiedersehen.
- 209.240.245.139 - Sunday, April 11, 2004 at 15:41:55 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Happy Easter to everyone. Ridy, I enjoyed reading your postings about the Easter customs of Gottschee. Thanks.
- 64.12.116.77 - Sunday, April 11, 2004 at 15:50:59 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Happy Easter to all. Cold, but sunny this Easter in KCMO.
Did anyone fix kreiner wurst (did I spell it correctly)? My cousin Ilse Stalzer always does, plus some other goodies.

- 4.244.192.110 - Monday, April 12, 2004 at 01:00:04 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Sorry to log off so soon. Much work to do. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 4.244.192.110 - Monday, April 12, 2004 at 01:06:23 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Happy Easter to all. Just wanted to see if anyone is on tonight. We had a beautiful day here in Cleveland, both yesterday and today. My family was over and we had blessed food and other goodies which are fit for a king, especially at Easter time.

Ridy, thank you for all of the information you had for all of us in regards to the customs of home. Those were the good old days, I like to live in the past and I would so have enjoyed the customs of old. I always say that I was born in the wrong century. Thanks again and have a wonderful Easter Monday.

Remember, Easter Monday was a day for celebrating, that is when the band started to play and everyone went back to their dancing. I still remember as a teenager, I never danced during the fast time.

Thanks all of you for the memories.
- 152.163.252.226 - Monday, April 12, 2004 at 01:25:24 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Greetings from Minnesota. We, too, are experiencing chilly weather which even included snow this morning. I also learned that our former homeland too is having a very chilly spring.

Hope you all enjoyed a wonderful Easter.
- 209.240.245.160 - Monday, April 12, 2004 at 02:40:57 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Happy Easter to everyone! We had a beautiful day in the low 60's.
- 206.38.34.56 - Monday, April 12, 2004 at 02:44:21 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth: Congratulations to your Preditors. Hope the Canucks do as well, at the moment they are tied in the second period against Calgary Flames.
- 24.69.255.236 - Monday, April 12, 2004 at 03:14:05 (UTC)

Regina Ramor Gardner:
Happy Easter to all on the plaudezimmer.
Irene I'm very happy to hear your tests are good.
Franz I sure hope the Canucks win this year.
Ridy great to read all the info about our Gottscheer
customs.
Sophie hope you get warmer weather soon, we had a wonderfully warm easter weekend.
Paul, yes I think we all need to pray for the peace keepers
and service personel out in the world.
Hi, Hilde I also lived in Graz after the war. When did you
imigrate. We came to Vancouver, Richmond Canada in 1948.
In Graz we lived in a Reiter Kassern. I do remember having alot of fun as a child there.
Jim I too remember my mother telling me about the baskets of baked goodies being taken to church to be blessed.
Well I hope there is still someone around.
I'll be around for a little while. Regina
- 24.67.253.204 - Monday, April 12, 2004 at 06:02:17 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Hi Regina
yes it would be nice if the Canucks could win they have been practising long enough.You say you came to B,C. in 1948 it would not by chance be in August of that year would it,that was when we arrived.
- 24.69.255.236 - Monday, April 12, 2004 at 07:03:36 (UTC)

Regina:
Hi,Franz sorry I didn't get to stay on.
I'm not sure of the month. My Uncle Henry Schuss came just
before us, I think in the same year.
Regina
- 24.67.253.204 - Tuesday, April 13, 2004 at 23:40:09 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Franz, the Predators have tied the series. We were in Tennessee over Easter weekend and the excitement of the local hockey fans is unmistakeable as this is the first post-season for the Preds.
- 67.163.154.131 - Wednesday, April 14, 2004 at 02:17:47 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Regina, you must be about the same age as my sister who was born in 1945 in Graz. She remembers nothing of our arrival and the early times in Vancouver either. My Gro�mutter used to work at Mylora farms (not sure of spelling) in Richmond and she used to mention a Frau Schuss at times. Could be that this would have been a relative of your Uncle Fred. I myself did not know any of the Schuss family.
Helmuth: Our Canucks are also tied in the series. Should be interesting for both of us.
- 24.69.255.236 - Wednesday, April 14, 2004 at 15:17:58 (UTC)

Ridy:
Helmuth and Franz -
So what will it profit the Canucks and Predators if they slay their competition, only to be slain in turn when they come up against the Mighty Maple Leafs of Toronto, eh?
- 64.229.178.226 - Wednesday, April 14, 2004 at 15:40:00 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Good one Ridy! We wait and see.
- 24.69.255.236 - Wednesday, April 14, 2004 at 16:14:01 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Ridy, indeed we will wait and see. Since the Penguins are out, and the Predators are not expected to do much in the playoffs, these victories over the Red Wings are gravy. I think more is expected of Franz's Canucks so the pressure may be on. If the Canucks ever face the Predators in a future round we may have a Plauderzimmer holy war.
- 67.163.154.131 - Wednesday, April 14, 2004 at 21:16:31 (UTC)

Ridy:
It's a Devils of a game, isn't it. . . .but count me out of the PZ war, holy or otherwise. I'm a confirmed pacifist.
- 64.229.178.226 - Wednesday, April 14, 2004 at 22:31:25 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth & Ridy: I don't know about the Canucks,those Flames really caught fire last night and burnt us but good. However only time will tell and maybe we can pull out of the flaming fire so to speak. next 2 games are here in Vancouver so hope home ice advantage has some truth to it.
- 24.69.255.236 - Wednesday, April 14, 2004 at 23:30:57 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Franz, I was disappointed to see Johan Hedberg give up 4 goals yesterday. As you know he was the Pens' #1 goalie for a couple years and he was always a favorite here. Hope Cloutier comes back for you quickly.

- 67.163.154.131 - Thursday, April 15, 2004 at 00:43:06 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hi Regina
I came to America in 1952. In Graz we lived in the Rosenhain Baracken, just a few minutes from the Hauptplatz and the Schlossberg. I went to Graz am Graben in the lower grades and then went on to the Elizabeth Schule. From the Elizabeth Schule we went back to a school which was around the Lentplatz, the name of the school momentarily left my thoughts. I will find out.

As children on the way home from school we entered the Schlossberg on the side where it had been bombed, and we could not go too far into the Schlossberg. We crossed the Mur before getting to the area. Our church was Johannes der Taeufer or die Graben Kirche. Our Katichet was Andreas Schmidt and he led the Children's choir in Church. We did have a lot of fun, those of course were the carefree years of our existence. We did not have much, but we were very happy.

Have a good weekend.

- 205.188.116.21 - Friday, April 16, 2004 at 02:11:30 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Hi Regina and Hilde. Greetings from Minnesota. Hilde, what month in 1952 did you come to America? We left Bremerhafen on April 16 and arrived in NY on April 26. From there we took the train to Minnesota. We crossed the Atlantic on the USNS Gen. Muir. Any chance we came at the same time?

Regina, hope all is well in Kamloops.
- 209.240.237.151 - Friday, April 16, 2004 at 03:47:42 (UTC)

Regina Gardner:
Hi, Hilde I remember Rosenheim (the name) my aunt & uncle
Kump and their 3 children lived there Maria, she still lives in Graz Pauline lives now in Brooklyn and Alois also
lives in Brooklyn. I don't remember when they went to NY.
I also went to Elizabeth School I still have my grade one
reader and first printing book with my own drawings in it
imagine that! The only church I remember is Maria Trost
high up on a mountain lots of stairs to climb. On Sunday
afternoon we sometimes went to the Himmelteich for a small
boat ride.
bye for now.
- 24.67.253.204 - Friday, April 16, 2004 at 07:27:52 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hilde and Regina -
Small world, isn't it! I also attended the Elizabeth Schule until the Ursulinenkloster was re-opened. It wasn't for long, maybe for one term. . . .can't remember that far back! We lived about two blocks from the school. Leonhardtstrasse, where the Ursulinenkloster is, was just one block further along.
Like you, Regina, we also went boating on the Hilmteich in the summer, and ice skating pretty much every afternoon during the winter. My parents used to visit friends in Rosenhain, but I never went along and I don't know whom they visited there. Maria Trost was a favorite Ausflug destination and I particularly remember an Erntedankfest
Feier in the Church, which was beautifully decorated with fruits and vegetables, sheafs of wheat and corn, etc., for the occasion - a true Thanksgiving scene without the turkey, of course! I recall hunting for mushrooms in the early morning hours in the woods a short distance from the Church with my aunt and uncle.
I am so glad that the Gottscheer Gedenkstaette is located up there now - the location is just perfect for a memorial.
- 64.229.178.226 - Friday, April 16, 2004 at 13:14:31 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth: We seem to be in the same boat. Next games are make or break for both the Preditors and Canucks. We can only hope!
- 24.69.255.236 - Friday, April 16, 2004 at 17:33:00 (UTC)

PAUL B.:
WISH YOU ALL VERY HAPPY-PLEASANT WEEKEND.....
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, April 17, 2004 at 06:06:56 (UTC)

Regina Ramor G.:
Hi, Hilde and Ridy. Just finished some laundry (always more) I wonder when you both where at the school I was there in 1947/48 but not the whole year.
I also remember my Atte (Dad) sending me with a jug to the beer store on a Sunday afternoon can't do that here!
I wonder if that has also changed since then.
I also remember going to the Schlosturn Berg, a large clock tower on a large hill of small mountain it was always fun to go on these outings.
I sure hope the Canucks do well this game!

- 24.67.253.204 - Saturday, April 17, 2004 at 06:16:14 (UTC)

Regina Ramor G.:
Hi, Paul have a GREAT WEEKEND also!
Everyone else also.
- 24.67.253.204 - Saturday, April 17, 2004 at 06:18:40 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Well, Preditors out, Canucks still in, at least till Monday. They sure did it the hard way. Vancouver weather is nice and mild but a bit wet. Regina, I too remember going to the gausthaus with a jug to bring back beer (I used to have a little taste but don't tell anyone) those were the good old days. Sophia, glad to hear all is well in Waukenabo.
- 24.69.255.236 - Sunday, April 18, 2004 at 17:33:44 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Did you watch the game Franz? Three overtimes! I was paged at 3 AM for problems at work, they were probably still playing.
- 67.163.154.131 - Sunday, April 18, 2004 at 23:07:06 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth: Yes I watched the game. It went into the 3rd overtime period at midnight our time here. I gave up and went to bed and missed Morrison's goal as he scored about 3 minutes into the period. I hope Monday's game isn't as hard on the nerves. Still can't believe they gave up a 4 goal lead.
- 24.69.255.236 - Sunday, April 18, 2004 at 23:27:22 (UTC)

Nettie Sider:
Hi Ridy,
This is Nettie. We signed into the Plaudezimmer tonight. How are you?
Nettie
- 12.78.6.243 - Monday, April 19, 2004 at 00:46:16 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Sorry to be so late. Hope all are well and have had a good week. Very warm and windy in KC. Need rain so badly. Hoping for some in the next day or so.
- 4.244.192.208 - Monday, April 19, 2004 at 01:36:13 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Good Evening. Hope everyone had a good week.
- 152.163.252.193 - Monday, April 19, 2004 at 02:02:22 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I don't follow hockey very often but have to admit that I am a Rangers/Islander fan. That goes to show that I am a nepphyte in hockey terms. Very few people will admit to rooting for both the Rangers and the Islanders. Despite living in NJ, I don't root for the Devils.
- 152.163.253.7 - Monday, April 19, 2004 at 02:05:32 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Anyone know of a Frank Mische who ultimately settled in California. I have a birthdate of 11/15/1897? It is a good bet that he was from Gottschee but I am not sure. Someone in London is trying to link in.
- 152.163.252.229 - Monday, April 19, 2004 at 02:07:29 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I guess it is another slow night in the chatroom. I will try to check in later on.
- 152.163.253.7 - Monday, April 19, 2004 at 02:22:13 (UTC)

Regina Ramor Gardner:
Hi, everyone hope you all had a good week and a relaxing weekend. Ours was good. The weather here in Kamloops was gorgeous today didn't even need a sweater.

- 24.67.253.204 - Monday, April 19, 2004 at 02:27:55 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, Regina. How are you doing? The weather was beautiful in New Jersey as well. If this keeps up, I will have to do a little gardening this week. I lost some azaleas and roses over the winter. They were getting weak as the years went by and they finally look like they have had it.
- 152.163.252.225 - Monday, April 19, 2004 at 02:37:47 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Any recommendations for deer/rabbit resistant perennials?
- 152.163.252.231 - Monday, April 19, 2004 at 02:38:27 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hi Nettie--Just checking in on the Plauderzimmer-it is12:00A.M. Saw yir posting-it sure was a slow PZ Night..How are you and Richie doing? Adie and I wish you well...Have a nice week.Lorraine and Frank will be leaving Florida 2 weeks from today.We will be glad to see them back up in N.Y. Bye for now..
- 68.194.42.188 - Monday, April 19, 2004 at 04:07:45 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Nettie!
Glad to hear from you. Just tried to send you an e-mail, but it came back again. I've encountered that problem several times before when I've tried to reach you. Could you please send me an e-mail to ridy@sympatico.ca so that I can respond to you.
Just got home from downtown after spending the weekend with Hilde, Elfie, and Marianne. We had a ball, as usual. Now we're looking forward to the weekend in Hawley with more of the green dots!
- 64.229.221.34 - Monday, April 19, 2004 at 18:57:19 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hi Everyone

I don't know what is happening, but I had a lengthy message for Ridy and for Regina, but it never got anywhere. I will wait until tomorrow and try again. Thanks
- 205.188.117.15 - Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 02:24:08 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Well Helmuth what do you think can we do it?
- 24.69.255.236 - Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 04:17:11 (UTC)

Regina Ramor of Kamloops:
Hi,Framz well to bad the Canucks didn't make it. I was at a meeting and got home and watched the rest of the game. I think the Canucks played very hard. To loss on overtime on a powerplay was just to bad.
Hi, Hilde hope to hear from you, sounds like you have a very interesting message for Ridy and me.
Jim, here in Kamloops the cold frost got alot of the hybrid roses too. I hope mine will show some buds soon, they don't look to good. My Azalia is OK. The bleeding hearts are blooming nicely, I love to garden.
Well it is a quarter to 12 and of to bed and hit the pillow, after a half glass of wine.
Guteinocht, schufet gut.
- 24.67.253.204 - Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 06:40:25 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Rigina yes we got burnt by the fire, the Cunacks just did not have what it takes .The Calgary Flames wanted it more than did the Canucks . It is just aswell I don't have any more figernails left. Hope they do better playin golf.
- 24.69.255.236 - Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 13:52:48 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler :

http://www.danielmauser.com

- 64.229.221.34 - Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 14:51:45 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Sorry - pressed the wrong key, apparently, on the previous message.

I wanted to remind all of the Plauderzimmer visitors to remember a young cousin who was one of the victims of the Columbine shooting on April 20, 1999. He also traced his roots back to Gottschee (and my Mausser side of the family) on his father's side.

visit his web page at http://www.danielmauser.com
- 64.229.221.34 - Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 14:56:40 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Franz, looks like disappointment all around. Now I have to root for my THIRD favorite team: Ottawa (sorry Ridy).
- 170.201.180.33 - Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 16:43:35 (UTC)

Ridy:
Be sure to watch tonight's game closely in that case, Helmuth! Rumor has it that a lot of the Ottawa fans (males, mostly) will appear in togas - as in the Senators in Old Rome! My sister finally found a good home for her old sheets and she figures it was for a good cause. Toronto flag vendors have been doing a booming business as well - many of the cars in the city sport at least one maple leaf flag. It's a fun atmosphere, and makes us forget how miserable our Blue Jays are doing so far.
- 64.229.221.34 - Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 18:42:26 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Well, I don't know who to support now. My wife is supporting Montreal. She is from Edmonton but of course they didn't make it and she is not a Calary fan so is going with Montreal. Looking forward to tonight's game as it will not be so nail biting as with the Canucks. Ridy-Toronto, Helmuth-Ottawa, Agnes-Montreal, Franz-?
- 24.69.255.236 - Tuesday, April 20, 2004 at 23:41:16 (UTC)

REGINA:
Hi, all. Well Franz I think I'll root for Calgary since we need to have a team in the west, also our daughter lived in Calgary for a few years.
Ridy, you say you have Mausser in the family. There is a lady here in Kamloops that has Mausser in here family and she only found out about two years ago. Her name is Lynne Mann. She is a member of the Heritage group also.
Well good night for now.
- 24.67.253.204 - Wednesday, April 21, 2004 at 04:52:11 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Franz, I am crying in my Molson's. Ridy, congratulations to the Leafs.
- 170.201.180.34 - Wednesday, April 21, 2004 at 14:57:39 (UTC)

Ridy:
Helmuth ~
I'm now rooting for Toronto and betting on Philadelphia. . . .is that kosher?
- 64.229.176.95 - Friday, April 23, 2004 at 00:03:32 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Regina, Helmuth and Ridy.
I can not root for the Flames,they beat us. Congratulations to Ridy and the Leafs, but I think Montreal will prevail. Helmuth thank you for the sympathy , the Molsen people appreciate your patronage as do all Canadians, we need the money.Who do you predict will take the cup? I kinda favour Montreal. Can you believe here it is May and we are still playing hockey.Ridy what is going on with your justice system? The news made it sound pretty bad.
- 24.69.255.236 - Friday, April 23, 2004 at 01:42:08 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Franz, it's my pleasure to support the Canadian economy since I much prefer Molson Export to most American beers (except Samuel Adams and a few small local microbrews).

Neither the Wings nor the Avalanche are playing like Cup contenders. I like Tampa Bay. Much as I love Toronto the city, I can't root for the Leafs because of my dislike of two of their players who shall remain Tucker and Domi.

Montreal is a sentimental favorite because of my admiration for Alex Kovalev.
- 170.201.180.34 - Friday, April 23, 2004 at 14:40:32 (UTC)

Gaynell Rinner:
I am writing to inquire about anyone who would have information regarding Mary Teresa Mauser who was born (August 8th,1876) in Drandul, Austria? I would like to any information regarding Drandul, Austria. If anyone knows please reply to pd_brown4@hotmail.com Thank you
- 165.121.26.26 - Friday, April 23, 2004 at 21:18:57 (UTC)

seaford,ny:
LETS GO METS
- 162.83.162.13 - Sunday, April 25, 2004 at 00:49:30 (UTC)

:
MY name is Benny Romano My mother is a Gottscher.
Her Maiden name is Trudy Koenigh.
were from Glendale, NY

- 205.188.116.136 - Sunday, April 25, 2004 at 02:02:58 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Hi Benny. Trudy Koenig from which village in Gottschee?
How are you?
- 216.251.169.142 - Sunday, April 25, 2004 at 03:10:19 (UTC)

PAUL B.:
HI BENNY. WELCOME TO THE PLAUDERZIMMER..ARE YOU RELATED TO JOEY OR VINNIE ROMANO? i LIVED ON 64TH LANE. CORNER OF COOPER AVE. WE HAD A CANDY STORE THERE...
- 68.194.42.188 - Sunday, April 25, 2004 at 04:44:37 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
To Benny and Gaynell ---- Welcome to the chatroom. We are happy to meet new people. If either of you would like to look for more information on your family trees, you can get in contact with me at DocH301454@aol.com. I have both Koenigs and Maussers/Mausers in my family tree.
- 205.188.117.10 - Sunday, April 25, 2004 at 18:10:59 (UTC)

:
HI
Im Benny from 60thlane in Glendale. My uncle Fred Zagar. owned the Elco bar on seneca ave. He sometimes works at the Gottscheer Hall in Ridgwood.
I now live in Florida. My mom gave me a book called Gottschee The Resettlement Years. Very Interesting in learning about Gottschee, and where my mom came from. It was great to fing this web sight. thankyou.
- 205.188.116.202 - Sunday, April 25, 2004 at 21:18:28 (UTC)

:
Paul I do remember Sals Deli on the dead end 64St.
I have my Tante Erna living there.
I grew up a few blocks away on 60th lane.
No i dont know Vinny or Joe.
There are a lot of Romanos out there though.
Benny
- 152.163.252.66 - Monday, April 26, 2004 at 00:42:50 (UTC)

Benny:
Sophia

I have to ask my Mom the name of the village she came from. and I will get back to you with that info. her fathers name is John and her mothers name is Anna. She has 2 sisters Erma and Erna. Im fine How are you?
- 152.163.252.226 - Monday, April 26, 2004 at 00:48:46 (UTC)

Benny:
Sophia:

Sorry, she also has 1 brother Frank
- 152.163.253.33 - Monday, April 26, 2004 at 00:51:57 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Hi Benny. Thanks for visiting the Plauderzimmer. Nice to meet you. I was born in the Moschnitze area of Gottschee (in the eastern part), resettled in 1941 to Untersteiermark; my mom and I participated in the Flucht in 1945 and after living in various camps my parents found employment in Altfinkenstein by Villach, Austria. In April of 1952 we immigrated to Minnesota. Would enjoy hearing more about your mom and her family and their experiences.

Have a good week.
- 216.251.169.151 - Monday, April 26, 2004 at 01:01:29 (UTC)

Arnold Rom:
Hello to all of you nice people! I seldom get to the Plauderzimmer these days. Out West the tme is just not right for it.

I spend a lot of my play time watching German TV. They have
give me a god view of the Old Europa as well as the New Europa.

Pretty son Slovenia (our old homeland) will become a member of the EU. It should me even esier to go for a trip to Slovenia and see how things have changed.

I assume there is nobody on the air at this time.
- 12.72.247.229 - Monday, April 26, 2004 at 05:06:16 (UTC)

Arnold Rom:
Please correct my poor spelling in the previous note. Helmut needs to put a spell checker on this site!!

Maybe I could win a spell checking B f we had a spell chcker.
- 12.72.247.229 - Monday, April 26, 2004 at 05:09:03 (UTC)

Bob Miklich:
Good Morning,
I am from Little Falls, NY and my fathers home town is Draga, Slovenia. I am looking for information on people by the name of Osbolt, Miklich or Schwasnick. Also I am looking for a book in ENGLISH by Erich Petschauer "Das Jahrhundertbush". I found that Herma Moschner made a translation of this book and I would like a copy. If anyone has any informaition I would appreciate it. Thanks, Bob
- 24.59.220.254 - Monday, April 26, 2004 at 12:52:17 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Arnold! Long time no see. No need to apologize for spelling, we smart Gottscheers can usually figure out what's being said.

Benny, Bob, Gaynell....welcome all to the room.

Franz, it's looking more and more like my prediction of Tampa Bay may come to pass!?
- 170.201.180.34 - Monday, April 26, 2004 at 13:00:59 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Bob -
Were you related to Anton Miklitsch, who died a year ago? He was married to my cousin, Paula Gliebe. They lived in Ridgewood. I am trying to find out what Anton's mother's name was. ridy@sympatico.ca

- 64.229.177.63 - Monday, April 26, 2004 at 13:03:59 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth
You are absolutely right. Tampa Bay are playing excellent hockey and look like a team that would deserve to win. Its not over yet but it does look like your prediction will come to pass. I found some bad refereeing in the Calgary game so its a little hard to guess the outcome of those two teams yet. Calgary has a lot of injured players and some bad calls against them so we will have to wait and see what happens when they return to home turf. I don't think they could take Tampa Bay even if they did get through this round. Our Canuck scored a bit goal for Canada to give them a draw instead of a loss.
- 24.69.255.236 - Monday, April 26, 2004 at 14:02:05 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Franz, I just hope no one takes out LeCavallier or Martin St. Louis with a wrist chop the way Adam Graves (Rangers) did to Mario Lemieux 12 years ago in the playoffs. I still have not gotten over that one. These are the things about the game that just drive me nuts. I agree about the officiating too, enforcement of the rules is so spotty and inconsistent.
- 170.201.180.34 - Monday, April 26, 2004 at 14:20:29 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Benny,
I believe I have information on your family. The names were Johann Koenig and Anna Wittreich. Much of the information comes from work that the GHGA has done. If interested, email.
- 64.12.117.23 - Monday, April 26, 2004 at 18:56:51 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Benny,
I had Franz, Irma, and Erna in file but not your mother so I am guessing that she was born aft 1941. Was there also a sister or relative named Frieda born in 1925?
- 64.12.117.12 - Monday, April 26, 2004 at 18:59:49 (UTC)

Benny:
Jim Heimann,
yes you are thats them. What is a GHGA?
My mom was born 1945 IN Austria.
- 152.163.252.5 - Tuesday, April 27, 2004 at 00:42:10 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Benny, GHGA stands for the Gottscheer Heritage and Genealogy Association. They have done great work in collecting information that allows others to find their families. I am a member. They have an online site. I would recommend checking it out.
- 205.188.116.77 - Tuesday, April 27, 2004 at 02:36:02 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Hi to everyone. May not be able to log on Sunday night. Our grand daughter is getting married Saturday. See you the following Sunday night.
- 4.244.57.236 - Tuesday, April 27, 2004 at 13:02:56 (UTC)

Trix:
HiMargaret. Enjoy the wedding and yes, we look forward to hearing all about it. Have fun.
- 216.251.169.173 - Tuesday, April 27, 2004 at 13:37:35 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hi Margaret: Congratulations and have a great time at the wedding.Gods blessings to the bride and groom..We saw 3 grandchildren get married..Believe me when i tell you it will be a memorable experience....
- 68.194.42.188 - Wednesday, April 28, 2004 at 00:08:49 (UTC)

Ellie Stonitsch:
To Bob Mickich of Little Falls, NY. I checked out www.barnesandnoble.com under the used and out of print books and I found a copy of Herma Moschner's translation of Hermann Petschauer's "Das Jahrhundertbuch:: Gottschee and its People Through the Centuries" for $20.99.
- 64.12.116.83 - Wednesday, April 28, 2004 at 00:14:58 (UTC)

Trix:
WAY TO GO ELLIE!!!! Nice job. What a GREAT idea.
- 209.240.237.154 - Wednesday, April 28, 2004 at 02:14:58 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth did you get a chance to see any of the Detroit vs Calgary game . I thought it was a real good one.That is one great goalie they have. Regina, looks like you know how to call em.
- 24.69.255.236 - Wednesday, April 28, 2004 at 03:54:15 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Franz, indeed a couple of great games Tuesday. The Flames are doing great and Kiprosoff is turning everything away. You know the Red Wings are getting desparate when they put Yzerman on the "grind line".
- 170.201.180.33 - Wednesday, April 28, 2004 at 12:00:11 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hi Ellie: You took the words right out of my mouth. Is that book the same one I got from Mr. Meditz? Cheers Ellie-best regards from Adeline & me...
- 68.194.42.188 - Thursday, April 29, 2004 at 04:10:43 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth how about those Flames they just will not give up.
So much for the Habs and my picks.
- 24.69.255.236 - Friday, April 30, 2004 at 03:51:05 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth meant to ask in my previous message what it is you do for a living seeing that you had to go out to work at 3 AM one morning? I'm watching the Flames and Red Wings and its between the 2nd and 3rd period so thought I would ask while I remember.
- 24.69.255.236 - Friday, April 30, 2004 at 04:17:49 (UTC)

Bob Miklich:
Good Morning,
I am from Little Falls, NY and my fathers home town is Draga, Slovenia. I am looking for information on people by the name of Osbolt, Miklich or Schwasnick. Also I am looking for a book in ENGLISH by Erich Petschauer "Das Jahrhundertbush". I found that Herma Moschner made a translation of this book and I would like a copy. If anyone has any informaition I would appreciate it. Thanks, Bob
- 24.59.220.254 - Friday, April 30, 2004 at 12:42:00 (UTC)

Bob Miklich:
Hi Ellie Stonitsch:
I looked on Barnes & Noble used and out of print books and had no luck. If you could check again to find a place where I could buy this book "The Hundred Years Book" translated by Herma Moschner, Which was originally written by Erick Pechauer "Das Hundret Jahren Buch" I would appreciate it. Thanks again for reading my post. finkbasinbob@hotmail.com
- 24.59.220.254 - Friday, April 30, 2004 at 13:39:12 (UTC)

Ridy:
Bob Miklich -
I've tried to e-mail you, but keep getting the messages back. Is hotmail having a problem? Also tried to phone you, but got a machine and left a message. . . Thank you for your e-mail message - I appreciate the information.
- 64.229.177.63 - Friday, April 30, 2004 at 14:06:21 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Franz, indeed good-bye to the Habs. Boy Tampa made short work of them. I work in information technology and my support role gets me up at all hours of the day and night...worse than a doctor sometimes....
- 170.201.180.33 - Friday, April 30, 2004 at 15:10:31 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth I guess I should have known it would be something like that as Ridy had told me you are responsible for this site. I am a latecomer to it but may I say thanks. I really enjoy reading all the messages.
- 24.69.255.236 - Friday, April 30, 2004 at 16:45:55 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Greetings from Minnesota. I must say a huge THANK YOU to Franz and Helmuth (in alphabetical order as, you can see) for the marvelous education about hockey and hockey teams. WAY TO GO Guys - great sharing and great communicating. I, for one, have very much enjoyed it.
- 209.240.245.174 - Friday, April 30, 2004 at 16:58:24 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Sorry, see what happens when one gets impatient?
- 209.240.245.174 - Friday, April 30, 2004 at 16:59:03 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy weekend to all-enjoy..
- 68.194.42.188 - Friday, April 30, 2004 at 19:47:33 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Hi all: Boy I don,t know what is going on but the amount of sun and hot weather we are getting I feel California has moved to B.C. Sun when we wake up every day is just not what we are accustomed to, not complaining mind you, if you are looking and listening from up above, as a matter of fact I think a big thank you is in order. Hey Ridy, what about the Maple Leafs!
- 24.69.255.236 - Saturday, May 01, 2004 at 01:49:27 (UTC)

bob miklich:
hi ridy iam new to typeing and the computer i received your call. please leave a phone number for me to call i also have a picture of anton and his wifes wedding he has a brother named john thats all for now
- 24.59.220.50 - Saturday, May 01, 2004 at 18:57:09 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Franz, you're welcome and it's always a pleasure to see new people contributing. I would be very remiss if I didn't mention that my sons both play developmental hockey and enjoy it. Their older cousin Derek Kump (my brother Bob's son) is a fantastic goalie and may be on his way to the pro's someday, look out for him. He lives and plays in Maine, formerly near Ithaca, and his team just missed going to the Junior championships.
- 67.163.154.131 - Sunday, May 02, 2004 at 11:36:34 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Trix, my pleasure and I'm sure Franz's too, for the hockey education. Not hard to talk about something you enjoy.
- 67.163.154.131 - Sunday, May 02, 2004 at 11:38:40 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Will leave a quick message and then log off.
Our grand daughter got married yesterday. We needed to rest today. Hope all are well and had a good week. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 4.244.192.153 - Monday, May 03, 2004 at 00:27:16 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Margaret congratulations to your granddaughter!

Happy Sunday to all in the PZ.
- 67.163.154.131 - Monday, May 03, 2004 at 01:08:26 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
A big "Hi" from Utah. We are having beautiful weather here. Hope everyone is doing good!
- 24.10.155.16 - Monday, May 03, 2004 at 02:14:16 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth, What is your take on Brian Burke getting the axe? everybody in Vancouver is stunned , we just don't know what to make of this. Are you watching Calgary vs Detroit? Sure didn't like to see their Captain getting hurt but glad to his vision is going to be ok, and they seem to be holding their own without him.
I used to work with a Johnny Kump but I guess its a pretty common name. It would be nice to see a Gottscheer in the NHL wouldn't it.
- 24.69.255.236 - Tuesday, May 04, 2004 at 03:57:42 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Franz, I don't agree with it. Any GM who can get the team into the playoffs 4 years in a row on a limited budget should be rewarded, not axed. Unfortunately, the coach and GM often unfairly get the blame when it belongs on the players. Did you stay up to watch the Calgary victory?

Hello John, we're doing well here and hope the same for you and yours! Waiting for our weather to warm up a little (isolated frost this morning).
- 170.201.180.34 - Tuesday, May 04, 2004 at 13:44:45 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth, yes I watched the game. It was on from 7:30pm to about 10:15pm our time (including the overtime)so I didn't have to stay up past my bedtime. Calgary is a gritty team and it will be interesting to see how they do in the next round. Calgary fans were so jubilant and yet I haven't heard of any rioting or vandalism such as we would have had if Vancouver had won. Don't know why we have such a group of trouble makers that seem to ruin every celebration here whether it be Football, Hockey, Firework displays etc. Vancouver has cancelled many of the great events we used to have each year because of it and thats a shame.

Regina, I hope you stayed up and cheered on the Calgary Flames,your 2nd choice after the Canucks were eliminated. Every team I picked has been eliminated. Makes me wonder what I know about hockey!
- 24.69.255.236 - Tuesday, May 04, 2004 at 16:09:09 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Ridy, sorry about the Leafs...Regina congrats to the Flames! Franz yes I forgot to account for the time difference! I should know better.
- 170.201.180.33 - Wednesday, May 05, 2004 at 13:58:51 (UTC)

Ellie Stonitsch:
Bob Miklich, Did you get my e-mail on ordering from barnesandnoble.com? As of Saturday, one copy was still available from their used and out of print section. If you need help, e-mail me at stonitsel@aol.com.
- 64.12.116.81 - Thursday, May 06, 2004 at 00:37:06 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Wish you all a nice weekend....
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, May 08, 2004 at 00:32:51 (UTC)

Paul B/:
And a very Happy Mothers day
- 68.194.42.188 - Sunday, May 09, 2004 at 00:13:20 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hello everyone

I would like to wish all mothers a Happy Mothers day from all of us in Cleveland. Have a wonderful day

- 205.188.116.71 - Sunday, May 09, 2004 at 01:00:21 (UTC)

Ridy:
Is there are problem with aol.com? All the messages I've sent to various e-mail addresses (including Marilu and Jim) have been returned to me. Others have come back as well, but all those addressed to aol.com have bounced.
- 64.229.207.74 - Sunday, May 09, 2004 at 21:11:41 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Well, hockey fans thoses gritty little Calgary Flames have done it again. It could have gone either way as both these teams never quit. Good series.
Happy Mothers Day to all Moms out there. Weather here is great.
- 24.69.255.236 - Sunday, May 09, 2004 at 23:29:45 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Happy Mother's Day. Logging on early to leave a quick message. Extremely warm in KC. Had the AC on for 2 days. No spring, just skip to July.

- 4.244.57.160 - Monday, May 10, 2004 at 00:19:40 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer -Wyant:
Thanks for all the wonderful wishes on this Mother's Day.
WE APPRECIATE THEM.

Guten Abend Margaret. Always nice to see you checking in. Weather is weird all around I think, I wonder what it will be like this year.

Franz: Are we now at the end of our sharing and hockey. Did Regina, the lady in Kamloops predict this team to be the winner?

We, in Minnesota, too were in possible tornado watches but nothing happened here. Lots and lots of rain in the Southern part I am told. So, life is good.

To all the Gottscheers from Europe who will be checking in, Liebe Gr��e an Euch alle �berhaupt Freund Ted, Edith und die anderen. It is always nice to hear from all of you.

Tell us what the Gottscheers, in y our area, are planning for 2004. If you plan to visit the Moschnitze area in the former Gottschee please note that Father Sket from Semitsch, who serves the catholic parishes of Tschermoschnitz and Stockendorf has masses scheduled throughout the summer in the various village in the Moschnitze area. Way to go Father Sket.

Also, there are many restoration projects going on in the Moschnitze area including the Church Maria Himmelfahrt in Tschermoschnitz, the church in Mitterdorf and the steeple at the church in Tappelwerch is getting a beautiful new look. Donations are needed and gratefully accepted. If you, or anyone in your family is interested in making a donation, I will gladly accept them and process them and mail them to the appropriate parties in charge. Remember: Viele H�nde machen ein schnelles Ende - Many hands make a quick end. TOGETHER WE CAN ACCOMPLISH MUCH.

Look forward to chatting later on.

- 209.240.245.69 - Monday, May 10, 2004 at 00:58:34 (UTC)

Christine Petschauer Sharp:
Looking for Granmother's Sisters(Koenig) from Kletsch #4
Altlag Parish Now in Cleveland Ohio. Catholic priest
ordained 1939 John J. Pertz.
- 198.81.26.39 - Monday, May 10, 2004 at 01:49:06 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Sophia: No we are not quite at the end of the hockey yet. There are 4 teams left. Calgary and Tampa Bay are playing their "best of 7 games in the semi-finals" and at the moment Calgary has won the first 2 games. They must win four games to go on to the finals. The winner - Calgary or Tampa Bay, will then play the winner of the other 2 teams who are playing their "best of seven". And yes, Regina from Kamloops has picked Calgary to win. We wait and see. Glad to hear your tornado watch has so far turned out ok. Hope summer is just around the corner for you.
- 24.69.255.236 - Monday, May 10, 2004 at 01:54:06 (UTC)

Christine Petschauer Sharp:
Looking for sister's of Josephine Koenig Petschauer also
John J. Pertz ordained priest Cleveland Ohio 1939. Cousin's
Conrad, Albert, Joseph, and Christine of Denver, Colorado
- 198.81.26.72 - Monday, May 10, 2004 at 01:58:03 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello and Happy Mother's Day to all you lovely ladies. Ridy, I sent you an email today, let me know if you get it. Let me know here if your reply still does not go thru the system. Don't know what is going on with aol.
- 152.163.253.2 - Monday, May 10, 2004 at 02:51:39 (UTC)

Ridy:
Marilu -
I got your message and responded immediately - hours ago.
Something is wrong somewhere along the line with aol. Is anyone else having a problem with them?
- 64.229.207.74 - Monday, May 10, 2004 at 03:09:07 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Sophia: This would be hockey fan made a mistake. Calgary has won the first game of their semi-final round against Tampa Bay, not 2. They must win 3 more to advance to the finals.
- 24.69.255.236 - Monday, May 10, 2004 at 03:17:55 (UTC)

Jim:
Ridy,
Recently sent you two emails. I hope you got them.
- 205.188.116.5 - Monday, May 10, 2004 at 03:50:13 (UTC)

Ridy:
Jim,
Yes, thank you, I did receive your e-mails, but my responses bounced back to me. Part of the message from the Mail Administrator reads as follows:

Your message was not delivered within 1 days.
Host toq12.bellnexxia.net is not responding.

The problem started before the Sasser worm hit the Internet. I know I'm not affected by it.
- 64.229.207.74 - Monday, May 10, 2004 at 10:46:48 (UTC)

Christine Petschauer Sharp:
I am looking for the Koenig family from Altlag parish
village of Kletsch #4 believed to be in Cleveland Ohio. Grandmother's sisters Albina, Helen, Mary. Josephine Koenig
Petschauer of Denver, Colorado. Sister had dress shop in Cleveland, Do not know the married names, If any one has information please e-mail me at CSSharpie@aOL.Com Thank you
- 198.81.26.105 - Monday, May 10, 2004 at 16:19:11 (UTC)

Christine Petschauer Sharp:
I am looking for the Koenig family from Altlag parish village of Kletsch #4 believed to be in Cleveland Ohio. Grandmother's sister's Albina, Helen, Mary. Believe they had a dress shop there, I know of a cousin named Regina do
not know the married names also one sister had a son John J. Pertz who became a priest in Cleveland in 1939.
Josephine Koenig Petschauer of Denver Colorado, my Grandmother . If anyone has any information I would be ever so grateful. Please e-mail me at CSSharpie@Aol.Com any time
Thank you
- 198.81.26.14 - Monday, May 10, 2004 at 16:30:22 (UTC)

Ridy:
Jim -
Have tried sending you e-mail, but it's still bouncing back a day or two later.
The good news is that our weather has finally gone into spring mode and I've been able to work out in the garden for the past two days. Have only made a slight dent in what needs to be done. After a long winter spent indoors, being outside is heaven!
- 64.229.207.74 - Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 21:31:53 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth
Are you still up and are those flames on fire or what?. Now they really are up 2 games!. I thought the finals might be Flames vs Tampa Bay but Philly really beat them last night so who knows.
Ridy, glad to hear you are having spring at last.

- 24.69.255.236 - Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 04:01:28 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Franz, I went to bed about halfway through the third, the Flames were up 2-1 at the time. Now I see the final was 4-1. Yes I'm worried about Tampa after that last game.
- 170.201.180.33 - Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 13:50:03 (UTC)

Bob Miklich:
Good Morning,
I am from Little Falls, NY and my fathers home town is Draga, Slovenia. I am looking for information on people by the name of Osbolt, Miklich or Schwasnick. Also I am looking for a book in ENGLISH by Erich Petschauer "Das Jahrhundertbush". I found that Herma Moschner made a translation of this book and I would like a copy. If anyone has any informaition I would appreciate it. Thanks, Bob
- 24.59.217.141 - Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 16:28:11 (UTC)

Trix:
There has to be a problem with Bob's message. This is probably the 4th time it has appeared. Is there something automatic that happens or do we, as participants, push the wrong buttons???

Would be nice to know that so that we can all learn.
- 216.251.169.31 - Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 17:22:50 (UTC)

Helmuth:
What happens is this: you make a post, then you bookmark or "favorite" that page. Actually you are bookmarking the post itself, not the page. So later when you go to the bookmark you are posting again. Does that make sense?

So Bob, if you're reading this, delete your bookmark or favorite for Gottschee Plauderzimmer, and link to it through the home page (kt3l.com). THEN bookmark it without posting anything. After that you can read, post, whatever without worries.

In terms of the posts themselves...no harm done. A couple extra characters in 10 Mb of space is no big deal.
- 170.201.180.34 - Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 17:47:12 (UTC)

Helmuth:
OK I did that for the sake of illustration....now I will delete that bookmark.
- 170.201.180.34 - Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 17:51:57 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
easier way. type the address into your address bar then you can just go and click on the arrow and scroll down to the web address and click onto that. No double messages anymore.
- 199.243.152.193 - Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 21:41:10 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth: your Tampa Bay did great tonight. Looking good!!!. Now we watch Calgary and San Jose. Maybe we will see a Tampa Bay /Calgary matchup after all.
- 24.69.255.236 - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 01:41:07 (UTC)

Regina:
Hi everyone, from Kamloops. Franz, haven't the FLAMES been great I new they could do it. Canada needs to win,.
and then of course WESTERN Canada's team to win.
The news is every time there is a snow storm in Calgary,
they win, sooooo....

f
- 24.67.253.204 - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 03:02:35 (UTC)

Regina:
Sorry about the big space! typing error, that f at the bottom. heheheh.
- 24.67.253.204 - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 03:04:03 (UTC)

Regina:
Thanks for your great email Ridy.
- 24.67.253.204 - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 03:05:29 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Regina
I forgive you for making that mistake but now you must come up with enough material as to why you think the flames are the greatest team in the NHL to fill the emty space.The way they are playing that shouldn't be hard. I wasn't going to support them because they beat our Canucks but as I watched them play and saw how they gave it their all they won me over.
- 24.69.255.236 - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 03:14:17 (UTC)

Regina:
Good evening Franz good to hear from you again. I watched one of the games in Victoria when visiting our newest grandson, he was born in mid Dec. that was exciting but so where the FLAMES. We have been very busy since we got back. Catching up on undone errands, but still take time for the games. Kamloops has a great team of it's own, the
Blazers. I think they have had a few players join the NHL.
It seems to me when things get tough, the FLAMES just seem to keep on going!
- 24.67.253.204 - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 03:25:07 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth, I hope you are up watching some of the Sharks vs Flames. This is Stanley Cup material at its best do you not think.
Good job of filling up the space Regina ,yes Kamloops is quite the Hockey Town alright. We have a friend who coaches minor hockey there. The morning Weatherman on BCTV played for the Blazers and he talks about them all the time so we get to follow them through him. Well, back to the game.
- 24.69.255.236 - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 04:03:35 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Well Franz looks like the Sharks took that one. It was still scoreless when I went to bed but the Sharks prevailed this time. Yes Tampa Bay looked strong. I would like to see a Lightning/Flames Cup final.
- 170.201.180.34 - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 11:34:30 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy weekend to all..
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 05:25:25 (UTC)

Ridy:
Still can't reach anyone with an aol e-mail address. Is anyone having the same problem?
- 64.229.207.74 - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 14:17:12 (UTC)

Elfriede Stonitsch:
Ridy, I tried to e-mail you at ridy@sympatico.com and it was returned as undeliverable with a message stating that relaying mail to sympatico.com is not allowed. My e-mail is stonitsel@aol.com so try if you can send me something.
- 149.174.164.11 - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 22:22:58 (UTC)

Ridy:
Elfriede -
My address is sympatico.ca NOT sympatico.com (ca is for Canada, I assume). I am receiving e-mails from aol.com, so if you resend your e-mail it should reach me. It's when I have tried to send to anyone with an aol.com address that it bounces back to me.
Hope you've got some pictures of Gottscheer embroideries or other needlework for me!
- 64.229.207.74 - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 23:39:37 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth and Regina: What now? Tampa Bay is 2 out of 4 and Calgary is 2 out of 4. Do we still have hope of seeing Tampa vs Calgary?
Hope everyone is having weather as nice as ours.
- 24.69.255.236 - Monday, May 17, 2004 at 00:37:46 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all are well and had a good week.
Lovely weather here in KCMO. Cooler than normal, but warm enough to open the windows.
- 4.244.192.227 - Monday, May 17, 2004 at 01:18:05 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi all Just checking to see if anyone is online tonight.
- 199.243.153.60 - Monday, May 17, 2004 at 02:06:45 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Slow tonite---Pleasant week to you all..
- 68.194.42.188 - Monday, May 17, 2004 at 04:07:20 (UTC)

Patrick Jonke:
Hi, I'm looking for information about the Blau-Weiss Gottschee SC over-30 team. All the web links seem to have ended in 1999. Does the team still exist?
- 129.236.11.156 - Monday, May 17, 2004 at 18:10:47 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Gottscheer greetings from Minnesota Patrick Jonke. Please visit the gottscheenewyork.org web site. According to the information Blau-Weiss is still listed. Good luck.
- 216.251.169.133 - Monday, May 17, 2004 at 23:03:51 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hi Sophia--Boy, you sure know your stuff.Have a nice week/
- 68.194.42.188 - Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 00:25:23 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Hey Paul, thanks. You sure know how to make a person feel good. You have a nice week too.
- 216.251.169.133 - Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 01:36:46 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Trix you sure do know your stuff! I remember going to the B-W soccer games as a boy with my father and uncle.

Franz, here come the Flames! 3-2 lead but nobody is winning at home.
- 170.201.180.34 - Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 14:00:56 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth: We are expecting Tampa Bay to do tonight what Calgary did last night. I think both of these teams just like to keep us on edge, big loss followed by big win just to keep us guessing.
Vancouver weather is just beautiful again today. I am sure it is even hotter in Kamloops where Regina is smiling over last nights big win by Calgary.
- 24.69.255.236 - Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at 17:29:08 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Franz, Tampa Bay did not disappoint did they? But I'm concerned because Philadelphia seems to be playing them much harder now. I think the series will go 7 games.
- 170.201.180.33 - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 13:38:01 (UTC)

Ridy:
Will the hockey series ever end? Seems to me it's almost time for the new season to start! LOL
- 64.229.207.74 - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 14:32:48 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth: Yes we did notice that Philly is getting rough (and getting away with a lot) and thats worrisome. I do not like to see shots being given that are not intended to enhance winning but intended to injure. I didn't much like the fighting in the Flames/San Jose game and hope it doesn't continue. We are hoping the Flames will end it tonight.
Ridy: Your right, it is a long season.
- 24.69.255.236 - Wednesday, May 19, 2004 at 15:04:57 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Flames win, go Lightning! Ridy the end is in sight...
- 170.201.180.33 - Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 11:38:12 (UTC)

hbara:
how i can find chating room
- 194.171.12.116 - Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 20:50:15 (UTC)

hbara:
how i can find the chating room

- 194.171.12.116 - Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 20:50:48 (UTC)

Christine p. Sharp:
How can I find the chat room?
- 198.81.26.9 - Thursday, May 20, 2004 at 21:00:07 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Greetings from Minnesota Christine. You are in the chat room or Plauderzimmer as it is called in German. Please leave your message and no doubt someone will respond. Welcome aboard.
- 216.251.169.22 - Friday, May 21, 2004 at 04:23:04 (UTC)

Christine Petschauer Sharp:
Thank you Sophia I feel so stupid but I don't speak or read German. I am new to this so please bear with me.
- 198.81.26.12 - Friday, May 21, 2004 at 19:11:45 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Christine, as admin of this site I am VERY glad that almost all of the posting here is in English. Welcome!
- 24.3.227.190 - Friday, May 21, 2004 at 21:33:50 (UTC)

Christine:
Thank you Helmuth I am so happy that I found GHGA I have gotten so much information from this site. Keep up the good work.
- 198.81.26.105 - Friday, May 21, 2004 at 22:02:01 (UTC)

Sophia:
Hi Christine. Glad you are with us. Am assuming you have Gottscheer connections? Might I ask about your Gottscheers names and villages? Would enjoy hearing from you and learning more.

I was born in the Moschnitze area of the former Gottschee and have lived in America since 1952.
- 209.240.245.166 - Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 00:46:55 (UTC)

Christine:
Sophia, My grandparents were Petschauer from atlag parish
village of Neubacher # 5 and Koenig from Kletsch # 4 through GHGA have been able to trace family back to early
1700's Grandparents settled in Leadville, Colorado he was a coal miner and Josefa ran a boarding house there before
moving to Denver, Colorado. I am the last remainng grand child. By the way I have been to the state of Minnesota
however it was winter time did see the frozen lakes and the ice fishing, remember the hugh snow storm with the electrical lines almost to the ground with ice. This was back in the fifties. I really appreciate the Las Vegas weather now. Will get a list of the names in my family.
Have had a lot of assistancce from Jim Heinmann. But will accept any and all information on the Cleveland side. Thank you Sophia for asking. will get back to you. Have a great evening, Christine
- 198.81.26.78 - Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 05:35:30 (UTC)

Christine:
Hi: Sophie: I am now lookingfor Cleveland Ohio 2nd cousins.
Grandmother's sister's (3) settled there( Albina, Helen, Mary ) I do not know their married names ( nee Koenig-Kikel)\One sister had a son, who was ordained a catholic priest
( John J, Pertz) at St. John's Cathedral on 3-25-39 in Cleveland 1st solem mass at Holy Trinity Church on 3-26-39-
reception 3-26-39 at 22535 East 71st street, Cleveland Ohio
Don't know if this was a private residence. My Family names are Petsch,Perz,Hiris, Stalzer,Ruppe,Hutter, Herbst, Kraker,Koenig,Schneider, Grill,Samide, Koestner,Kikel Flack,
Kinkopf Schauer, Fink,and Kaplafkop. Any one out there thatHas any information I would greatly appreciate it.E-mail me any time at CSSharpie@Aol.Com Thank you Christine.
- 198.81.26.40 - Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 20:40:35 (UTC)

Christine P. Sharp:
Hi: Sophie: I am now lookingfor Cleveland Ohio 2nd cousins.
Grandmother's sister's (3) settled there( Albina, Helen, Mary ) I do not know their married names ( nee Koenig-Kikel)\One sister had a son, who was ordained a catholic priest
( John J, Pertz) at St. John's Cathedral on 3-25-39 in Cleveland 1st solem mass at Holy Trinity Church on 3-26-39-
reception 3-26-39 at 2535 East 71st street, Cleveland Ohio
Don't know if this was a private residence. My Family names are Petsch,Perz,Hiris, Stalzer,Ruppe,Hutter, Herbst, Kraker,Koenig,Schneider, Grill,Samide, Koestner,Kikel Flack,
Kinkopf Schauer, Fink,and Kaplafkop. Any one out there thatHas any information I would greatly appreciate it.E-mail me any time at CSSharpie@Aol.Com Thank you Christine.
- 198.81.26.80 - Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 20:43:23 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth: Well, what excitment for Tampa Bay fans. Now its down to our 2 favorite teams, but of course we will be cheering Calgary on and you will be pulling for Tampa.
Ridy: Now we are down to 7 games tops but could be less, maybe 4 but I doubt it.
- 24.69.255.236 - Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 01:46:45 (UTC)

Elfriede Stonitsch:
The Gottscheer Heritage and Genealogy Association will hold its annual meeting on June 25 and June 26 at the Sheraton Bloomington Hotel (formerly the Radisson Hotel South & Plaza Tower), 7800 Normandale Blvd., Minneapolis, Minnesota. All persons interested in their Gottscheer heritage are invited to attend. The agenda will include speakers on Gottscheer heritage, Gottscheerisch language lessons and songs, and genealogy workshops and activities as well as an evening banquet with entertainment. Registration for the Saturday meeting is $35.00 (includes lunch) and the evening banquet is $32.00. The deadline for mail in registration is June 12.

For more information and the Registration Form, visit our website: http:\\www.gottschee.org or contact me at stonitsel@aol.com.

- 64.12.116.211 - Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 02:58:18 (UTC)

Regina:
Sure hope Calgary does well and wins.
- 24.67.253.204 - Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 05:54:30 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Indeed Franz and Regina, and all hockey fans for that matter...what a finish for Tampa Bay. I will be pulling for TB but won't be disappointed at all if Calgary takes it. I'm just very glad to have the Flyers out! Boy was it close. I think the team that displays better skill will win (not always the case in hockey).
- 24.3.227.190 - Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 11:47:02 (UTC)

Maargaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Will leave a quick message. Can't log on at regular time. Sorry. Huge storm here in KC last Tuesday night. Flooded basements, backed-up sewers, the whole bit.
However, we are drying out now. Auf weidersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 4.244.78.87 - Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 23:49:45 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good Sunday evening!
Hope there are some other participants lurking out there in cyberspace somewhere so that we can have a little visit with each other. Don't let the noise frighten you off - we're just having a thunderstorm up here in Toronto. . . .
- 64.229.220.89 - Monday, May 24, 2004 at 01:29:11 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz in Chicago - buә pischt D�? Kimmescht D� gur et mehr af pәsch�ch du inna?
- 64.229.220.89 - Monday, May 24, 2004 at 01:40:18 (UTC)

Christine Petschauer Sharp:
Ridy Good evening ; sent you an e-mail. What a surprise
we do have someone in common It is a beautiful day here in Las Vegas mild the hot weather is not here yet.
- 198.81.26.47 - Monday, May 24, 2004 at 01:45:08 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello Christine;
Just got your e-mail, thank you. Being related at arm's length through marriage only is good enough for me. We'll just say we're distant cousins, and I'm sure we're not wrong on that.
- 64.229.220.89 - Monday, May 24, 2004 at 01:47:55 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Christine - it doesn't look as if we're going to have any company here this evening. There must be a hockey game on TV!
The Plauderzimmer was very popular and lively in the not-too-distant past, but has been suffering from lack of participation recently. Maybe we can resurrect some interest in it again.
- 64.229.220.89 - Monday, May 24, 2004 at 01:58:07 (UTC)

Christine:
Ridy This is great news and rather ironic too as I just made the trip to look for Franz, as a child I remembered him
2 of the ranches he owned are now golf courses and one is being subdivided. My Daughter is 56. My son in law was quite interested in the golf courses as he is an avid golfer
in fact he played up here yesterday and again today. Keeps hisgolf cart here. Take care Ridy
- 198.81.26.47 - Monday, May 24, 2004 at 02:18:26 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Sophia
Thank you for the Email "memories and Reflections"
Found it verry intersting but Aloisia Schmuck was also my great Grand mothers name but she was not from Tapplewerch .
but I do remmeber a lot of the other names you mentioned particular the name Josef Frank he did have a verry nice house I think his was the only one to have had a flashing porcelan he was also instrumantal in putting on Xchistmas plays ect.I was in one of those plays as a member of the 7 dwarfs in a play" snow white"" I think I had 2or 3 words" where is my pick". We used to learn the words in his house in the lower part the room was large it had benches all around the walls where made what looked like small tree trunks sawn in half and varnished really nice . I am going to ask my mother maybe it will come to her who all those people were. Thank you . Hallo Ted Meditz melde dich doch einmal. My wife did not check my spelling so please forgive.
- 24.69.255.236 - Monday, May 24, 2004 at 02:38:12 (UTC)

Regina of Kamloops:
Hi, Franz I hear you have been watching the games. I have not had much time to watch them. Hope the Flames do well.
Hi, Ridy do you have relatives in Richmond BC? There are 2 familys named Hoegler that live there. There are
Joe, Magdalena, and twin boys, and cousins Elfi, Harry and
Eric.
- 24.67.253.204 - Tuesday, May 25, 2004 at 05:24:11 (UTC)

Sophia:
Good Afternoon Mr. Germany calling. Nice to hear from you. I wish you all the best. Keep up your wonderful work on Gottschee, have a GREAT trip to the AG in Klagenfurt and to der alten Heimat. Bleib gsund und danke f�r Deine vielen, vielen guten Arbeiten �ber unsere Heimat.
- 209.240.237.146 - Tuesday, May 25, 2004 at 11:35:51 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth: Canada won that one in fine form. We think the Tampa fans angered the Flames with their booing when they were introduced so they went all out to win. Sure hope Calgary fans are not that rude when Tampa plays there.
Regina: You will just have to find time to see one or two of these playoff games, they are two great teams. Thursday should be just as exciting.
Ridy: Just a few more to go!
- 24.69.255.236 - Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 02:57:39 (UTC)

Regina:
Hi, Franz, yes I do hope to watch the game on thursday.
Hope it doesn't go to late. Have to be up by 5 on Fri. AM
to go to Penticton and take the grandchildren to a
childrens festival for fri. and sat.
Ridy thanks for the email just finished one to you.
good night all.
- 24.67.253.204 - Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 06:12:12 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Franz I agree, the Flames were in great form and the Lightning were flat. I worry about Khabibulin, he can be brittle at times. I think the visiting team is always booed no matter the city. It's a long series so we shall see!
- 170.201.180.34 - Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 11:42:18 (UTC)

Erna Cerne:
Dear Gerry Studier: I am so happy to have a friend like Trix of Minnesota who noticed your message and forwarded same to me. Please contact me at aecerne@aol.com. Erna Verderber Cerne. Thank you, Trix.
- 205.188.116.214 - Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 18:17:03 (UTC)

Ridy:
What!? No comments about the hockey game last night? The headline in my paper reads: Flames struck by Lightning
and that sounds like a noteworthy event to me. . .

- 64.229.176.112 - Friday, May 28, 2004 at 11:19:41 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Ridy you are just an earlier riser than I, it would seem! Franz is on the west coast so naturally we beat him. In my opinion, the first game or two the teams are just feeling each other out. Now that the series is tied at one apiece, the real fun begins.
- 170.201.180.34 - Friday, May 28, 2004 at 13:21:33 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmouth: Yes as Ridy states Lightning has struck. One of our papers says "BOLTS STRIKE BACK" the other one boldly states "FLAMES DOUSED" I think that pretty well sums up last nights game.The next game should be interesting as you say .
Ridy: The end is getting closer.
Hope you both have einen sch�nen tag it is quite cool and wet here today.
Hallo Regina hope all is well up your way. Ted, now I know who Mr. Germany is. Nice town you live in thank you for the photo.
- 24.69.255.236 - Friday, May 28, 2004 at 16:09:25 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Wish you all a very happy and safe holiday weekend...
- 68.194.42.188 - Friday, May 28, 2004 at 17:37:31 (UTC)