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Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. I hope all are well and had a pleasant week.
Chilly and rainy in KCMO. So pleased to get email from Trix telling about a book on the umseidlund (?) Hope to hear more about it.
- 64.218.109.231 - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 01:18:41 (UTC)

Marilu:
Some of you know that I am taking a trip to Germany the end of May. A grandson and my sister are also going. My maiden name is Underberg, and I have been in contact with cousins in Germany. Martin Underberg is my 4th cousin, once removed, which means his father and I are 4th cousins. He is taking a holiday while we are there and has planned a big family get together. We will get to see the Underberg farm which has been in the family since the 1600's that I know of. Also will see the house where my great great grandfather lived before he immigrated in 1846. And of course the churches where they went to church. I am very excited about the whole trip. We will also visit Berlin, Munich and the Bonn area where my Olbertz and Otto families were from. An online friend who has the same name as my grandfather and great grandfather Neppl is spending 2 days with us in Munich. Our families are from close towns, but we are not related. We will stay will friends (of one of my cousins who lives in the US) while at St. Augustine, close to Bonn. We are all pretty excited about the whole trip.
- 207.200.116.133 - Monday, May 08, 2006 at 16:49:47 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Marilu, your trip sounds very exciting.
I hope you have a wonderfull time on your Holiday!
- 24.67.253.204 - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 03:49:02 (UTC)

Marilu:
I should add that someday I hope to also make a trip to Gottschee to see the land of my Peschel family. Some of the newer people to this chat do not know all the research I have done on this family and area.
- 207.200.116.74 - Wednesday, May 10, 2006 at 12:28:39 (UTC)

Trix:
Marilu: Have a wonderful trip to Germany. Give us the details when you return and remember the next GHGA trip is in 2008. That would be a good time head for Gottschee.
- 209.240.245.79 - Thursday, May 11, 2006 at 02:48:55 (UTC)

PAUL B.:
WE WISH ALL THE PZ MOMMIES A VERY NICE MOTHERS DAY...
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, May 13, 2006 at 19:57:58 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Happy Mother's Day to each and every mother. I had a special day, I hope you did, too. Werner: Did you get a forward from me about a new book on Gottschee - the war years??
Aur wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.161 - Monday, May 15, 2006 at 01:34:22 (UTC)

Sophia aka Trix:
Good Morning from Waukenabo, Minnesota. I would liket to buy a cutting board especially made for turnips. Remember, in Gottschee, we had the boards especially made for slicing cabbage to make sauerkraut And we also had the same kind of board made to slice turnips into little, square long pieces. Can you taste that wonderful sauer turnip (much like our homemade Sauerkraut) with Kreiplein (cracklings) and Ganzalein (corn meal type musch). My mouth is watering. Please let me know where I could buy one.

Danke.
- 209.240.245.174 - Friday, May 19, 2006 at 15:56:12 (UTC)

william:
greetings to all from vienna. i finally made it gottschee this past week - what an experience. i found many gravestones of my ancestors, i even found the house where my great great great grandmother was born, still standing in somewhat good condition. morobitz was an emotional moment for both my cousin and me. nothing is left of my mom´s family home save the fruit and nut trees and a small slice of the foundation. nevertheless i stood exactly where the house once stood, picked the wildflowers that were blooming there and scooped up a small bit of dirt to bring back. the cememtery was gone but i found the spot where it was and left a bouquet of flowers for all my family members buried there. of all my trips to europe this is by far the most meaningful. hope all are well. william
- 81.223.92.227 - Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 13:07:48 (UTC)

Irene:
Trix,
I found a company on the Internet that custom makes cutting boards. I do not know anything about this company. The website is http://www.customcuttingboards.com/

Perhaps there is someone in Waukenabo who works with wood and will make a cutting board to your specifications.
- 72.231.179.38 - Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 13:34:01 (UTC)

Ridy:
Grüß Dich, William! Reading your lovely posting brought tears to my eyes, and I am so happy for you that you were able to visit the area where your ancestors lived and died. I am sure their spirits were there to share the moment with you. Like you, when I last visited the place of my birth, I knelt and picked some wildflowers to bring back to Canada with me, and when my parents and brother died, as well as other close relatives, I put a sprig of those dried flowers into the casket with them. I wish I had picked a much larger bouquet because I have used them all up now. Kukendorf, the village where I was born, no longer exists, and there is no road leading to that area anymore.
Are you seeing any performances in Vienna? The retirement gala for Joseph Volpe apparently lasted about 5 hours yesterday, and we should be hearing broadcasts of it on radio and TV over the next month or so.

- 64.229.223.252 - Monday, May 22, 2006 at 01:27:14 (UTC)

William:
ridy, no performances as this is a mostly 'discovery' trip. however on sunday i went to the augustienerkirche in vienna to the hochamt (high mass) where they performed haydn's creation mass. i'm not a church go-er by any means but i stayed for the entire mass. of course the kaffeehäuser are a good place to hear some live classical music which i have done as well.
- 213.225.48.90 - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 12:36:45 (UTC)

Nancy:
William, What area of Gottschee is your family from? I was lucky enough to travel there last year. My grandmothers' village (Lachina) was also so completely destroyed that we were not even able to locate where it once had been. I was devastated....but very happy to find the birthplace of my grandfather in Mitterdorf/Tschermoschnitz. I am so happy for you that you've made this trip.
- 69.179.10.211 - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 21:02:23 (UTC)

Werner Lackner:
Frank, I new Johnny Kropf from Ridgewood. His father John Kropf worked in the Gottscheer Clubhouse with my father for many years. I used to meet Johnny and his brother at his fathers house on Gates Ave. Do you know how and where Johnny and his brother are today?
- 69.121.155.116 - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 17:27:49 (UTC)

:
The Gottscheer Heritage and Genealogy Association will hold its annual meeting on June 23 and 24, 2005 at the Quorum Hotel-Tampa, 700 North Westhore Boulevard, Tampa, Florida.

All persons interested in their Gottscheer heritage are invited to attend. The agenda will include speakers on Gottscheer heritage, Gottscheerisch language and songs, and genealogy workshops and activities as well as an evening banquet with entertainment. Registration for the Saturday meeting is $30.00 and the Lunch/Banquet package is $66 per person. The deadline for mail-in registration is June 10.

For more information and the Registration Form, visit our website:
http:\\www.gottschee.org or contact me at stonitsel@aol.com.

Elfriede Stonitsch
Secretary
Gottscheer Heritage and Genealogy Association

- 205.188.116.12 - Friday, May 26, 2006 at 19:19:45 (UTC)

Elfriede Stonitsch:
I just noticed two typos: The meeting will be held June 23 & 24, 2006 at the Quorum Hotel, 700 North Westshore Boulevard, Tampa, Florida.
- 205.188.116.72 - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 02:28:27 (UTC)

Frank:
Hi Werner, Johnny lives in Miami Beach, Florida and Eddie died two years ago.Hope to see you at the Gottscheer picnic.
- 71.125.244.118 - Saturday, May 27, 2006 at 14:09:22 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello to all. Hope all enjoy this holiday weekend and to those fortunate enough to attend next Sunday's picnic...LUCKY !!!! Frank...are you going?
- 69.179.12.38 - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 00:39:03 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. I wish all a memorable Memorial Day. In the 90's here in KCMO. Hoping for 80's next week. Traffic to lake area of Ozarks is wild. Too many people, boats, trailers, etc. Good week-end to stay close to home. Enjoy the picnic next week-end. Wish I could attend.
- 66.140.92.44 - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 01:14:24 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
William,
I cried, when I read your message telling about standing amid the ruins of your ancestral home and finding the home of your gr, gr, gr grandmother still standing. I'm sure I wouldn't find anything left of my Jonke family in Lichtenbach or Komerdorf. What a wonderful experience for you.
- 66.140.92.44 - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 01:19:57 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Sophia,
"Gonzalein" that brings back some real memories of my oma making it. We didn't really appreciate it at the time, but it has the same memories as strudel for me and all the good women who made those dishes.
- 66.140.92.44 - Monday, May 29, 2006 at 01:23:08 (UTC)

william:
nancy, my mother came from morobitz which is in the hinterland and very, very close to the croatian border. but i have a siginificant update to my previous posting: curiosity may kill the cat but it also has significant rewards. stay tune...
- 72.231.164.44 - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 04:57:39 (UTC)

william:
margaret, mitja ferenc published a book called 'friedhoefe und grabsteine der gottscheer deutschen'; it's a survey of the region's cememteries and what can be found in them today. i purchased a copy at the kocevje regional museum when i visited it last week. in the book there is a mathias jonke listed in lichtenbach; it says he was born 09.04.1798 died 16.10.1877 and was from kumerdorf no. 5. there's also a photo of a 1934 funeral in lichtenbach. stay tuned for an update to my earlier posting...
- 72.231.164.44 - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 05:03:13 (UTC)

william:
So does curiosity really kill the cat or do tenacity and persistence offer amazing rewards? Perhaps a little of both but after my second trip to the Untersteiermark and Gottschee I think the latter holds more truth. After my first visit to Gottschee I realized I wasn’t done there – I felt there were things there I hadn’t seen yet, things I hadn’t done yet. I had a nagging feeling that if I didn’t make a second trip while still in Europe on this trip I’d be missing something. So, from Vienna I rented a car and drove back but via Hazelbach bei Gurkfeld (Leskovec pri Kršku, just over the river from Gurkfeld/Krška) in the Untersteiermark which is where my mom’s family was resettled in 1942 and where my Opa died in an accident and is buried. It was a long shot that I would find anything there since I had no information about which house they lived in, where the cemetery is or if I’d even be able to find the spot where Opa is buried. I stayed overnight in the City Hotel in Krška (not the Ritz but passable for the night) and the next morning I ‘threw the dice’ and asked the hotel clerk some questions and provided some names/dates in the off chance she would know something or perhaps know someone who would know something/someone. (FYI, I speak no Slovenian but was armed with a strong command of the German language, a German/Slovenian dictionary and a ‘why not/I have no fear’ attitude). Lady luck gave me seven on the dice throw. About 30 minutes later after some back and forth in Slovenian and German I was sitting in the house of a Slovenian man who knew my grandparents when they were resettled to Hazelbach (they were shop keepers and this man and his family were allowed to stay and he and his family lived directly across the street from my grandparent’s house/store). Completely on his own with no prompting from me other than providing my grandparents’ names and some dates he told me in detail about how my grandfather died – he saw the accident happen – and about the funeral and burial. He told me the names of my grandparents, my mother and her two sisters and brothers and indicated that a girl was born shortly after they arrived – that would be my Tante Gerlinde. He told me detailed information about the family he could only have know if he knew them and again, with no prompting from me. He took me to Opa’s burial site; even though the site belongs to another family he recalled exactly the site location; he also showed me exactly where the accident happened. I confirmed this information via a phone call to my mother who cried in disbelief, joy and sadness. The house where they lived and the store they had still stand and are in fine condition. In fact, the store is still a store and like then sells Mischwaren today. Since the store was open I naturally went inside; I could feel my grandparents everywhere. As a tribute to them I purchased a sack of coffee; at Opa’s grave, even though the site now belongs to someone else, I left several pots of flowers and lit a memorial candle. I am the first person in my family – immediate and extended – to have visited the grave and town since my widowed Oma and her six children went on the Flucht in 1945. I was absolutely overwhelmed and cried at the gravesite. I finally met Opa. This though was the tip of the iceberg; more amazing and emotional things awaited me in Morobitz. It’s late now and I’m tired from my 20 hour trip back today so I’ll write more tomorrow. Check the photo pages for pictures of Hazelbach/Leskovec.
- 72.231.164.44 - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 05:53:39 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
William = it is 3 a.m. at Waukenabo and here I am reading your latest posting. Yup, you guessed it, tears are running down my face too. WAY TO GO. Thank you for sharing. Can't wait to read about your entire journey of discovery to Gottchee. So, when are you going again? You know that you are smitten now, don't you?
- 216.251.169.12 - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 at 08:04:53 (UTC)

william:
my trip to Gottschee, part 2c

My work in the cemetery lasted about three hours. I paid my respects to each person in the cemetery I knew I had a direct relation with, left flowers at my friend’s grandmother’s grave and with a heavy but enlightened heart left the cemetery. Onward went my journey to visit the villages my forefathers called home: Aibel, Jessenov vrt and Morobitz. I didn’t know it at the moment but as I was heading down the road in my rental car toward those three places I was on a collision course to face my own family’s fate and place an even bigger, more personal sense of ‘belonging to something bigger’ and realization what my genealogy research was all about. Part three to follow.

- 204.97.128.49 - Friday, June 02, 2006 at 17:49:08 (UTC)

william:
my trip to Gottschee, part 2b

Part of the reason for this trip was to see the places where all these people I found in my research were born, lived and died. I drove from Hazelbach (still feeling overwhelmed by what I experienced and found there earlier in the day) back to Gottschee then on to Banja Loka where I visited the parish cemetery. Immediately upon walking into the cemetery I was surround by gravestones bearing the Corl (the Slovenian spelling but still pronounced Zurl). There were approximately 15 stones and each stone listed several names, some just two names but others with four, five, six or more names. Armed with my 10-page genealogy spreadsheets I started to examine each stone against my research work and found that many, many of the names on the graves appeared in my research work and to my surprised dates matched up almost all the time. Of course there were some inaccuracies but for the most part my researched matched reality. While examining the gravestone of the grandmother of an email-buddy (her grandmother married into the Zurl/Corl family around 1890) an awesome reality struck me: these names on my research sheets, the people whose births, deaths and family connections I was tracking via my research suddenly went from being abstract, impersonal objects represented by ink on paper to being real flesh-and-blood human beings who lived, loved, experienced joy and suffering and finally died. These were no longer just names, they were real people … and I was related, albeit distantly in many cases, to a large majority of those over whose graves I was now walking. I looked around and saw a sea of Zurls/Corls and realized I was just a cog in a much larger wheel called life. There have been only one or two other moments in my life when I felt such a strong sense of belonging.
- 204.97.128.49 - Friday, June 02, 2006 at 17:49:37 (UTC)

william:
my trip to Gottschee, part 2a

Some of you may be aware that for the past two-and-a-half years I’ve been doing extensive genealogy research on my mother’s family, Zurl from Morobitz. Over that time period I identified approximately 450 Zurl family members, regrouped those people into their immediate family groupings (i.e. parents with children) and as a result of those groupings I identified five distinct, main Zurl lines starting around 1800 that carried through to about 1970. Around 1800 three of those five lines converge into one so pre-1800 I find only three lines; my guess is that at some point around 1650-1700 those lines probably converge as well. The earliest birth I can confirm is 1653 and the latest (born in the Gottschee region) 1941. (I have recorded many post-1941 births as well but mainly in the United States). By the mid 1970s there were very few Zurls living the Gottschee region or the surrounding Slovenian-speaking regions (Banja Loka parish and Fara parish) compared to the number living in the area in the late 18th century and all of the 19th century. Many of the offshoot branches of those five main lines have already died out completely and based on what I know there probably aren’t many Zurls in the world; indeed, I have pondered the concept that the Zurl family name may die out completely in the not-too-distant future.
- 204.97.128.49 - Friday, June 02, 2006 at 18:25:37 (UTC)

Marilu:
I am in Munich today. We spent 2 days in Berlin, and that was very interesting. Munich has the most beautiful churches I have even seen. And when the church bells ring, oh my, what a beautiful sound. On Tuesday we travel to the town of my Underberg family and met cousins. It has been a good trip so far.
- 195.93.60.132 - Sunday, June 04, 2006 at 07:39:32 (UTC)

Trix:
Thanks for the update Marilu. Keep them coming. Agree, Munich is an awesome town and the food is superb too. Keep listening to those beautiful church bells. Have fun, enjoy the journey and safe travel home.
- 216.251.169.15 - Sunday, June 04, 2006 at 13:51:31 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Beautiful in KC. Summer weather may hit us next week. Celebrated my 70th birthday. Hope I got my Oma's longevity genes. She and my great grandmother Ursula Stalzer Jonke lived to be 95! Have a good week.
Auf wiedersehen.
- 66.140.92.111 - Monday, June 05, 2006 at 01:31:19 (UTC)

william:
my trip to Gottschee, part 3e

I walked a bit father up the road to the top of the hill and was rewarded with the most amazing view of the surrounding area: in the distance I could clearly see the ruins of the Castle Kostel; the villages of Suhor and Kaptol could be seen perched on narrow ridges above deep valleys; the mountains of Croatia stood on the horizon and the gorge through which the Kolpa River flows could easily be picked out. In the opposite direction I could see the Krempe and the valley that leads into Morobitz, my mom’s home and the home to the Zurl family from 1850 until 1942. It was time to move on, my next destination the village of Jessonv vrt, along the road that leads into Morobitz via Niedertiefenbach. The best, most stunning part of my trip, my head-on collision with my family’s fate, was about to happen. Check the photo pages for some pictures. Part four to follow.
- 72.231.164.44 - Monday, June 05, 2006 at 02:27:49 (UTC)

william:
my trip to Gottschee, part 3d

I stood in the doorway (as much as I was able) and tried to feel my ancestors passing in and out of that door. I looked around and told myself that what I saw at that moment is what 200 years of my ancestors saw each day when they walked through that door. I looked up the street and saw two other houses that appeared as ancient and wondered if one of them could be Aibel #7, a house a side-line of my Zurls lived in, or Aibel #14, the Brischke family house, a family that over several different generations married into my line of Zurls. I walked back down the steps and touched the walls; some of the mortar and smaller rocks crumbled out so I picked up a few pieces of the rock and put them in my pocket – I had a physical piece of my ancestral home to take back with me. Up the road a bit farther I found the village chapel, next to it in a separate structure a set of bells hung with ropes attached. I pulled the ropes – they were heavy to pull as the bells were large – and rang the bells to commemorate my ancestors’ lives. Inside the chapel was a crumbling statue of the Virgin Mary with many old flowers around it and a few flickering candles. I opened the gate and walked inside the tiny space and despite my non-believer status, I kneeled down and said a prayer for all my family members who came before me and lived their lives in this tiny village. All this while the bells continued to ring…and not a soul could be seen or heard; I was completely alone in Aibel with the ghosts of my family.
- 72.231.164.44 - Monday, June 05, 2006 at 02:28:27 (UTC)

william:
my trip to Gottschee, part 3c

My heart began to beat a bit faster as I came around a bend in the road and saw an ancient stone house with a crumbling façade and weathered red tiled roof. I had one of those funny feelings in my stomach as I got closer and saw the dilapidated old barn next to it. I ascended the steps so I could examine the keystone over the front door. My ancestors must have been smiling down on me that day: as clear as day I saw etched into the keystone ‘Aibelj 5’; above it was ‘GC’ and below it were four other numbers, the first a 1 but the others fairly unreadable due to weathering; I did a coal on paper rubbing but only was able to discern the second and fourth digits –a 7 and a 5 respectively; the third digit may be either a 1 or a 7: 17_5. I had found my ancestral home. I could barely believe it, not only that I had found it but that this house, a structure that was clearly over 200 years old, still stood, albeit in a rather bad condition. The entire house was made of stone and mortar; the roof was still complete; the barn next to the house was clearly as old. Behind the house was another small barn with a tractor inside it. The back side of the house also revealed how ancient it was: at the base of the leaning chimney on the outside was an opening for what appeared to be cooking; a smoke room was attached to it on the side; the small windows were framed with ancient, weathered wood and contained thinly pained glass. The house still showed signs of life as in one of the windows I saw a bottle of mineral water that was still half full, the curtains in the windows looked fairly clean and a new lock held the front door firmly shut.
- 72.231.164.44 - Monday, June 05, 2006 at 02:28:59 (UTC)

william:
my trip to Gottschee, part 3b

As I was driving away from the parish cemetery in Banja Loka I made that left turn to visit the village of Aibel. The road narrows significantly, the grade raises sharply and the road goes from semi-paved to dirt very quickly; at one point I wasn’t even sure I would make up the hill as the rain had washed out part of the road. I pressed on. Eventually I made it into the town. It was like I had stepped back 200 years in time: the houses were ancient, all made of stone; house ruins could be seen through the thick growing woods; some chickens ran across the road; sheep grazed in the fields around me; the village well stood ready with a bucket near by to pull water out. I parked the car under a tree so it wouldn’t turn into an oven under the blazing sun (it was in the 80s with crystal clear skies) and walked slowly up the dirt road. Not a soul was to be found anywhere. The first house I walked by was deserted and showed little evidence of recent activity inside; over the door in the keystone were some letters which I could barely make out but a large number 4 and some initials could easily be seen. My guess was that this was Aibel #4 which meant that Aibel #5 couldn’t be too far away, if it still stood.
- 72.231.164.44 - Monday, June 05, 2006 at 02:29:45 (UTC)

william:
my trip to Gottschee, part 3a

Banja Loka is situated on the main road that runs Gottschee-Lienfeld-Stalzern-Mrauen and only about 10 km from the Croatian border. As you drive from Banja Loka in the direction of Gottschee you eventually see a sign pointing left to a road that leads to the village of Aibel. Like Banja Loka Aibel was not part of the Gottschee Sprachinsel but factors heavily into my genealogy. My earliest Gottschee-region ancestors came from this village starting with George Zurl who was born there in 1653. No house number is indicated in the information I have about his birth but around 1700 I find the first of my Zurl line being born in Aibel #5. This would be George Zurl, my 7x great grandfather. The next five generations of my Zurl family were born in this house; my great great grandfather, Johann Zurl born 1820, was the last of my direct family born there. (Sometime around the time of Johann’s birth the spelling changed from Corl/Corel to Zorl then later to Zurl; when he relocated to Hirisgruben bei Rieg he used the spelling Zurl). The house remained a Zurl residence (cousins of Johann continued to live there) until about 1860-1870 when through the marriage of a Zurl female the house passed to the Butina family.
- 72.231.164.44 - Monday, June 05, 2006 at 02:30:22 (UTC)

Sophia aka Trix:
William, THANK YOU so much for sharing your wonderful journey to Gottschee. What a marvelous writer you are. Am waiting for more.
- 216.251.169.13 - Monday, June 05, 2006 at 03:29:13 (UTC)

Sophia:
William, not only are you an excellent writer but an excellent photographer too. Thank you for the beautiful photos. Nice, nice job. I hope you will publish your journey, along with photos, and share the same with others.
- 216.251.169.13 - Monday, June 05, 2006 at 03:36:01 (UTC)

Frank:
William, I like you visited Gottschee, but in 1971 and felt a sense of my ancestors being with me.I passed by my grandfather's house in Schalkendorf and not speaking slovenian,I didn't knock on the door and ask to go inside.I wish I could have seen the inside.I did pick up two stones from the yard and I still have them today.I might go to europe next year and a trip to Gottschee is a must to visit my mom's town Ebenthal.I'm glad you found your ancestral home.
- 72.68.166.31 - Monday, June 05, 2006 at 03:48:38 (UTC)

Sophia:
Frank, I hope you do return to Gottschee next year. A lot of restoration work has been done on the church in Eventhal and by all means talk to everyone in Schalkendorf. I am almost positive that you will find someone who may either be of Gottscheer ancestry or knew of the Gottscheers. Good luck and enjoy your journey. If I can help in any way feel free to contact me.
- 216.251.169.2 - Monday, June 05, 2006 at 12:47:33 (UTC)

Paula:
William, I am sure enjoying your account of your visit to Gottschee. I was there last year, but can't describe the feeling I had, when I saw all those places. I didn't remember, as I was so young when we left, but recognized the places from my mothers descriptions. Beautiful picture of the church in Gottschee and the others! Thank You!
- 70.100.90.179 - Monday, June 05, 2006 at 15:54:51 (UTC)

Nancy:
How moving William. Thanks so much for sharing this special journey with us.
- 69.179.53.251 - Monday, June 05, 2006 at 21:35:04 (UTC)

william:
thx, everyone for nice comments.
- 72.231.164.44 - Tuesday, June 06, 2006 at 00:42:12 (UTC)

william:
helmuth, my pix of aibel #5 and the interior of the church are a bit large. i reduced them but it would appear not enough. would you mind shrinking them down? thx.
- 72.231.164.44 - Tuesday, June 06, 2006 at 00:43:19 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Done, and thanks for an excellent contribution Willam.
- 67.165.51.52 - Tuesday, June 06, 2006 at 02:29:11 (UTC)

william:
thx for shrinking down those pix. you never really know how big they are until they end up on the site. and thx for the compliment; i'm working on the next part, my visit to jessenov vrt. i've been to europe a dozen times but never before have i had a trip like this one.
- 74.67.36.4 - Tuesday, June 06, 2006 at 02:36:22 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
Hello Sophia and Maria,

First I wanted to thank you for your work on The Gottscheer Connection. It is wonderful that you are helping to keep this culture alive. I have a short story and offer that you may publish if desired and also may be posted on the internet if desired.

My wife (Christine), my mother (Barbara), my father (Walter - who was born in Langenthon to Johann and Elisabeth), and I made a family trip to Europe in early April of 2006. Along with visiting relatives in Germany and Austria, we also drove to Gottschee (Kocevje) and to Langenthon (Smuka) in Slovenia. It was a wonderful trip. To see where my father and his parents were born was something I will never forget. We also stayed the night in a guest room of a very friendly resident of Smuka. It was the first time in 65 years that my father spent the night in this town. On our journey to Gottschee, we stopped in Kapfenberg, Austria where my father lived in refugee barracks during his childhood before moving to the US. Many Gottscheers had to live in these types of barracks after WWII after being forced from their homeland. During our stop we had Gulaschsuppe at a restaurant called Stieglbauers. The waitress was very kind and even offered us a rare photo of the barracks that was taken while my father lived there. If anyone is interested in receiving this picture (and/or other more beautiful pictures from our trip) via email, please email Erich at erich.papesch@bendix.com.

Barracks.JPG Smuka.JPG
Best Regards,

Erich W. Papesch
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- 209.240.245.156 - Tuesday, June 06, 2006 at 23:03:18 (UTC)

Sophia aka Trix:
Attention Gottscheers who have connections to the village of Altbacher in the former Gottschee. I recently learned that a Gottscheerin by the name of Mrs. Maria Kropf, 85 years of age still lives in Altbacher. If anyone of you would like further information or get in contact with this Mrs. Kropf please let me know and I shall gladly send you her address. I plan to write to her and hope to learn much from this beautiful looking Oma regarding her life in Altbacher.
- 216.251.169.16 - Wednesday, June 07, 2006 at 15:11:03 (UTC)

Frank:
Thank you Sophia for the info on Ebenthal.I know my mom's house is no longer standing, but the ruins might still be there.I believe I have an old photo of her street with the house intact.
- 71.125.250.243 - Wednesday, June 07, 2006 at 16:08:57 (UTC)

Eduard Stalzer:
Hello everyone
- 65.175.222.165 - Monday, June 12, 2006 at 00:16:33 (UTC)

Sophia aka Trix:
Good Evening Edward and everyone else. Hope you had a good Sunday. We are enjoying beautiful weather at Waukenabo. So what is new with all of you? Would love to have you share. Anyone going ot Gottschee this year?
- 216.251.169.166 - Monday, June 12, 2006 at 00:52:22 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Beautiful in KCMO. Stormed last night. Hail in some places. Needed the rain. Eddie: I sent Krista an email about her college plans. Did she read it yet? Wish her luck. Hi to Nancy.
- 66.140.92.35 - Monday, June 12, 2006 at 00:59:11 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello to everyone. I have read and enjoyed emails from all of you. Been so busy with things. My mother is improving everyday...my husband is bringing a friend of ours to the airport after a visit this past weekend...I had the pleasure of dining with some family on Saturday whom I've only met once before! I trust that Kate will be getting some new membership applications in the near future. I've counted at least 5 family members (so far) who are planning on the 2008 Gottschee Tour. I haven't done much research in these past few weeks but will get back to it soon. Anyone attend the picnic? I'd love to hear about it. Trix...some of us Petschauers were thinking of visiting up your way in the near future....I'd love to finally meet you. Frank....the sand sculpture competition photos are amazing. Hello Paul....Ed Stalzer.
- 69.179.25.190 - Monday, June 12, 2006 at 21:44:51 (UTC)

william:
My trip to Gottschee, Part 4d

I finished up my visit with Frančeska telling me that last Zurls to have lived in Jessenov vrt died in the 1970s and that their house, #8, still stood but was abandoned. She walked me to the house where I said good-bye to her and thanked her for sharing her priceless memories with me. I stood alone on the dirt road facing this run-down old house. The house was in really bad shape since the roof had partially collapsed. It was surrounded by thick, tall weeds. Time and neglect had taken their toll. I fought my way through the weeds and walked up the still-solid stone staircase to the front door. Again, as clear as day, I saw etched into the keystone over the door ‘MC’ (Michael Corl) and ‘1864’. I had found another ancestral home. But this time I had access to the inside as I could see through the window that the back door was wide open. Back through the weeds I went; I climbed the disintegrating steps to the back door and stepped inside. I stepped carefully: I was afraid the rotting floor would collapse beneath me and I’d crash through to the basement. Old clothes and furniture were scattered in all directions; in the kitchen stood a large, rusting iron stove; in the one bedroom were two large beds and an armoire fully loaded with clothes. The second bedroom room turned out to be a genealogist’s dream-come-true: strewn everywhere were old letters, newspaper clippings and sundry other documents. I sifted through everything and found some real treasures that revealed many things about Mathias Zurl, the last Zurl to have lived in this house and a fifth cousin of mine. I reminded myself that the day before I was at his grave. And that he was a person who lived here and probably died here. And that these were his possessions, the remains of his life. Spread before me was Mathias Zurl and I was rummaging through his life. A chill ran down my back. The reality and humanity of my genealogy work had just taken on a newer, deeper and much more personal dimension.

I knew it was again time to go so I picked out one document from the hundreds of pieces of paper around me to keep for myself and bade farewell to Jessenov vrt, Mathias Zurl and his house and Frančeska Glad Stimic. Morobitz and Morobitz #9, if it truly still stood, were just a few kilometers down the road. I was about to face the ghosts of my grandparents and great grandparents, stand in the place they called home and see and touch hard, physical proof of their existence and lives in Morobitz. Everything I thought I knew and understood about Morobitz was about to change. But at that moment I didn’t know it. Check the photo pages for more photos. Part 5 to follow.

- 72.231.164.44 - Tuesday, June 13, 2006 at 06:57:40 (UTC)

william:
My trip to Gottschee, Part 4c

Eventually Frančeska put down the papers and asked me to show her where I stood in the family trees. I pointed myself out and started to trace back a few generations so she could see my connections to both Jessenov vrt and Morobitz. When I pointed out Franz Zurl, my grandfather, she interrupted me and told me her father, Janež (Hans) Glad, worked for Franz Zurl at his lumber mill, that at one point in the 1930s she and her parents lived in the house behind Morobitz #9, and that she knew Franz’s family. She told me about my Opa – she told me I look just like him but I’m taller, about their double house in Morobitz that used to be a Gasthaus and store (it was the biggest house in the village she said), about Franz’s brother, Nestl, and the big lumber mill in Plösch he operated, about Franz’s three girls – my mother and her two older sisters, she said she remembered there was boy too maybe two (there were indeed two boys) about Franz’s beautiful wife with big brown eyes who often gave her mother goods from the store but wouldn’t take money for them, and about how suddenly they, like the rest of Morobitz’s inhabitants, all went away in 1942 and never came back. She went on for about 30 minutes providing detail after detail about my grandfather and his family. I sat there in amazement feeling like I was in dream. How could it be that I could possibly find this 82-year-old woman who knew and still remembered my grandparents and their family? I once again sat there in disbelief and amazement at what I had found.

I soaked up the moment and hung on her every word. Finally, after listening to her stories, I asked her if she knew what happened to the house. One of them is still there she said. Impossible I responded: I was there last week but there was nothing on the spot where it should have been. She insisted and went on to say there are only two buildings in the village, one is the old school which is now burned out and the other is Morobitz #9. She told me it suffered some damage in a fire in the1950s but was repaired and is still very much there. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. How could I have not seen this the week before? I remember seeing a house but based on the maps I had this house stood too far to the center of town. She looked directly into my eyes, put her hand over mine and said in perfect Gottscheerbaerisch ‘It is still there, go see’. I started to feel funny inside, that feeling of a wave passing over you, that flush feeling in your face. The draw to Morobitz suddenly got much stronger.

- 72.231.164.44 - Tuesday, June 13, 2006 at 06:58:34 (UTC)

william:
My trip to Gottschee, Part 4b

The road into Jessenov vrt wasn’t as dramatic as the one that led into Aibel but like Aibel Jessenov vrt factors into my genealogy and is situated well off the main road and up a hill. There were about 12 houses in the town, some clearly very old while others appeared to be either newer or simply older homes that had been renovated. I came upon a man and woman who were sitting at a table under a large tree in front of their house. I stopped the car, grabbed my genealogy sheets and got out to talk to them. Maybe they could tell me if house #8, the Zurl house, still stood or if any Zurls lived in the town still.

The man spoke German and English so communicating wouldn’t be a problem. I explained who I was and what I was looking for; they both examined my genealogy spreadsheets and pointed to some names and muttered to each other in Slovenian. After a few moments the man stood up and announced he was going to fetch a woman who lived down the road; she may be able to provide some help he said. After a few moments the man returned and behind him hobbling up the dirt road was an elderly woman. She sat down next to me and, silently, first looked me over then my genealogy sheets. Speaking a mix German and Gottscheerbaerisch she told me her name was Frančeska Stimic and asked me if I was a Zurl. I explained in German that my mother was a Zurl, born in Morobitz #9 in 1932, and I was here to see the place where she lived and the places my ancestors came from. An awkward silence ensued while she again looked over my sheets and me; she asked me to stand up so she could ‘get a better look’ at me. I started to feel very uncomfortable and wondered if my luck had run out but I stood up and stepped away from the table anyway so she could see me. She motioned for me to sit back down and continued to look at my sheets. The man offered me a glass of wine which I accepted – fussing with a drink would be better than just sitting here in silence I thought.

- 72.231.164.44 - Tuesday, June 13, 2006 at 06:59:17 (UTC)

william:
My trip to Gottschee, Part 4a

It was getting late when I finally pulled myself away from Aibel and decided to call it a day. I was physically and emotionally exhausted and wanted to lie down and absorb the day’s events so I drove back to Gottschee and checked into the Hotel Valentin. The next morning I wandered around the “Stadt” for a bit and visited the Regional Museum and its exhibit about ‘our people’, the Gottscheers. I got back into to the car around noon and headed toward Morobitz and Jessenov vrt via Schwarzenbach and Hasenfeld. In Hasenfeld I visited the cemetery where I located the graves of some Kump ancestors (my grandmother was born Kump in Hasenfeld and the family has roots its roots in Schwarzenbach as far back as 1610): my great grandmother Maria Perz Kump (1883-1931), her daughter and my Oma’s sister Hilda Kump (1913-1922), my great, great grandfather Georg Kump (1840-1880) and the husband of my grandmother’s aunt (Magdalena Kump, 1875-1952), Mathias Krauland (1964-1924). In Schwarzenbach I found the Kump family home (#3). No one was around to talk and big dog guarded the entry to the house. Not wanting to risk a dog bite I opted to not approach the front door to examine the keystone. I took a few pictures and moved on.

The weather that day couldn’t have been better: large, puffy cumulus clouds floated across deep blue skies and shafts of bright, warm sunlight showered through openings in the lush, dense forests through which the road I traveled snaked. Driving down the road that leads to Jessenov vrt and Morobitz I stopped so I could walk into these woods – I wanted to ‘feel’ first hand the legendary Gottschee forests. The trail led fairly deep into the woods; the forest was dark despite the bright day and the air was cool and smelled sweet. In the distance I could hear rushing water. The Kulpa perhaps? I stumbled upon what looked like the foundation walls of a now-long-gone structure. The ‘walls’ were merely fragments and only a few inches to perhaps a foot high but the outline of a rectangle could be seen. I touched the stones – they were cold and covered in moss and lichen. I walked around the perimeter and tried to imagine what this building could have been, what it may have looked like, who might have lived there, how old it was and what happened to it that all that remains today are these ruins. My thoughts immediately went to my mom’s family home in Morobitz. I was only a few kilometers outside the town and wondered why I decided to return: I knew from my visit the week before that nothing remained. Why was I setting myself up for a disappointed when so many amazing things had already been revealed to me? What could I possibly find in a place where nothing stood any longer? I reminded myself about that feeling I had in Vienna – that feeling of things still undone, things waiting to be uncovered – and told myself to continue to follow my instincts and suspend pre-drawn conclusions and disbelief, to allow to happen what will happen. I stood amid the ruins in a shaft of sunlight and listened to the birds sing for a few moments then got back in the car, next stop Jessenov vrt.

- 72.231.164.44 - Tuesday, June 13, 2006 at 06:59:56 (UTC)

william:
helmuth, i tried to load a few photos but nothing is showing. can you confirm they are or aren't there. thx.
- 72.231.164.44 - Tuesday, June 13, 2006 at 07:20:04 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
William, it is a privilege to read your intimate and meaningful account of your visit to the land of your forefathers. You are being very generous in sharing your experiences and feelings with all of us who read your postings in the Plauderzimmer and I very much hope you will make them available to a wider audience in printed form. Bravo!
- 64.229.222.230 - Tuesday, June 13, 2006 at 09:38:42 (UTC)

Helmuth:
William, the pics are now visible. The UNIX shell is allergic to the # character in file names.
- 170.201.180.33 - Tuesday, June 13, 2006 at 10:45:16 (UTC)

william:
helmuth, sorry about that # sign - i should have known better. thx for fixing it.
- 74.67.36.4 - Wednesday, June 14, 2006 at 00:35:32 (UTC)

Trix:
Helmuth, please send me your proper web site address. Thank you.
- 216.251.169.131 - Wednesday, June 14, 2006 at 01:53:53 (UTC)

Helmuth:
William, no problem. I might work on filtering out any characters that makes UNIX cranky.

Trix, either http://kt3l.com or http://hwk.best.vwh.net/ks

Email hwk@kt3l.com
- 67.165.51.52 - Wednesday, June 14, 2006 at 02:20:37 (UTC)

Irene:
Ridy,
I would like to buy a copy of your book. Do you still have my email address?
- 72.231.179.38 - Wednesday, June 14, 2006 at 18:34:12 (UTC)

Marilu:
I have returned from my visit to Germany. I walked on the land of my Underberg ancestors near Schermbeck in the Munster area and visited on the farm that has been the family farm for over 400 years. I met many 4th and 5th cousins and we were treated like royality. We saw the villages and churches and cemeterys. I cried when it was time to leave. It was an experience I will never forget and I hope to someday return. We drove thru the villages of my Otto and Olbertz ancestors near Bonn and walked the streets and saw the churches. We also visited Berlin and Munich and Koln. Germany is very beautiful, much greener than I expected. It was a wonderful two weeks.
- 207.200.116.197 - Thursday, June 15, 2006 at 12:40:42 (UTC)

Elainte Tramposch-Haufe:
Happy Father's Day to all of the PZ fathers! Enjoy your day!
- 67.101.135.158 - Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 16:31:20 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Guess you can tell I am in a hurry to finish my preparations for Father's Day - cant even type my own name correctly!! But I did not want the day to pass without sending along my good wishes.
- 67.101.135.158 - Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 16:33:06 (UTC)

Sophia aka Trix:
Thanks Elaine. I echo her good wishes to all the Fathers who will read these lines.

Question: Why did the Gottscheers leave Gottschee in 1941? Who was responsible?
- 216.251.169.137 - Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 18:00:36 (UTC)

Paul Brasino:
Adie & I wish all theDaddies avery HAPPY FATHERS DAY.GOD BLESS.....
- 68.194.42.188 - Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 19:08:21 (UTC)

Nancy:
Happy Father's Day to you Paul and everyone out there.
- 207.118.223.179 - Sunday, June 18, 2006 at 22:23:25 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Happy Father's Day to all you dads and grand-dads out there. Many more to come.
- 64.218.109.68 - Monday, June 19, 2006 at 00:09:37 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Hi, all or anyone on tonight.
The question about why the Gottscheer left in 1941
was that the Slovenians would move to our area homes
and we would get the homes in Steiermark. I believe
Germany was the one to arrange this, because they recorded
all the land and forest ant vineyards we had.
Years later Gottscheers got compensation for their
land, forests, and vineyards. My father did.
That is all I know about it.
- 24.67.253.204 - Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 07:51:47 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Hope all the fathers had a great day!
- 24.67.253.204 - Thursday, June 22, 2006 at 07:52:47 (UTC)

Frank:
Regina, The Gottscheer's left Gottschee thinking they might be going to the Germany.Only the inner circle of the Gottscheer leadership knew that we were going not to Germany but to homes taken from the Slovene who unfortunetly lived in the Rann and Gurkfeld area.We were sent there along with the Sud-Tiroler's and German's from Besserbia and also other Germans from other area's in Slovenia.From what I understand half of these 30,000 Slovenes never came back from labor camps in the Reich.Most Gottscheer and those poor other settlers had no hand in this.It was German policy to bring all ethnic germans back into the reich and part of slovenia was now the reich.I know my family wanted nothing more then to live in peace with there slovene neighbors and stay in Gottschee.We lost our ancestral home which is recorded in the Urbar of 1574,land we got from the Hapsburg Emperor.We also lost five immediate family members in the war, including my grandparent's who died within days after being released from Sterntal concentration camp in 1945.I feel no hatred for anyone and want only to visit Gottschee one day with my children and walk the street's where my ancestors once walked.I was born in Austria after WW2.You can check Wikipedia and type in Gottschee for more info.
- 72.68.184.163 - Friday, June 23, 2006 at 03:49:20 (UTC)

Sophia aka Trix:
Frank: you wrote in the message below:
You can check Wikipedia and type in Gottschee for more info.
I did check it out and it is awesome. THANK YOU very much for sharing this information with all of us.
Where do you live? I am in Minnesota but was born in the former Gottschee.
- 216.251.169.42 - Friday, June 23, 2006 at 14:03:55 (UTC)

Sophia aka Trix:
Another response as to why the Gottscheers left in 1941:
Hi Trix,
I thought that the Germans promised the Gottscheers land for land and the understanding was that they (Gosttscheers) were moving to greater Germany. But the plan was to move them to the occupied land that Germany held in Slovenia.
What choice did they have really. Hitler had given the land to Italy and as Ma said the Italians were moving in along with the Slovenians. It was truly a mess. They had to leave. When you think about it, it was an impossible situation even if it took place during peace time and during a war there was little choice. That's how Bill's mother explained it to me.
Kay
- 216.251.169.42 - Friday, June 23, 2006 at 15:14:22 (UTC)

Sophia aka Trix:
And one more:
Hi Trix,
this response is exactly what I know from my mother and her family. Just exactly. I remember my grandmother often said, that she felt somewhat guilty and inconvenient when she heard, that the house where they were been settled was belonging to Slovenians before who were brought away before there arriving. Despite of this my family had good contact to those Slovenians who still lived in the area of Bistrica (Koenigsberg) not far from Rann.

My mother often told, that they were asked to leave for Germany (Reich) or they would be settled to Sicily because this part was given to Mussolinis Italia. Of course everybody prefered Germany. They had the hope they can freely use their language.
And: they were promised to get all their trees and animals and fields in the same degree they had it in the Gottschee area. But of course this was a lie. And they could not take all they want with them. So it was just a big deseption.

Greetings
Gustav
- 216.251.169.42 - Friday, June 23, 2006 at 15:15:50 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
Good Morning from Waukenabo where we are enjoying a beautiful day.
I am looking for volunteers who would enjoy translating Gottscheer Reflections from Slovenian to English. Can you help? Please write me at wyants@mlecmn.net
THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
- 216.251.169.47 - Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 16:48:03 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. We are having lovely weather in KCMO. Bad storm yesterday. Great today. Trix: I wish I could help, but I can't. I have a couple of cousins that might. Let me know.
- 64.218.109.112 - Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 21:56:47 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello to everyone out there this fine evening. The weather has been springlike this past week and it's just so nice to be outdoors....prefer not to think of the indoor work week ahead. I was reading a local Catholic newspaper today and found a photo which I've uploaded. It looks so much like a church I saw in Slovenia last year. Thanks for sharing the photo of Mitterdorf near Tschermoschnitz. I'll look for my grandfathers place if I can enlarge the photo. I (and I'm sure many others) am finding the most recent topic on the PZ interesting. It goes a long way in educating many of us....thanks again for sharing.
- 207.118.215.45 - Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 23:11:01 (UTC)

Trix:
Nancy, you are absolutely right. It looks very much like the church by the 3 bridges in Ljubljana.

- 216.251.169.157 - Sunday, June 25, 2006 at 23:58:02 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Happy 4th of July to all. Be careful with the fireworks. KCMO extremely hot and humid. Bad storm predicted for the 4th. Auf wiedersehen.
- 66.140.92.83 - Sunday, July 02, 2006 at 23:12:07 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Ditto Margaret..Be carreful everyone....
- 68.194.42.188 - Tuesday, July 04, 2006 at 21:55:56 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
HELP. My brother Wilhelm Spreitzer is still missing in action in Russia since WWII. I have his troop, battalian no etc. I would like to write to the German Archives to see what information, if any, they may have on him. Can anyone give me the proper address? THANK YOU.
And the Gottscheer Journey of Discovery goes on and on and on....
- 216.251.169.135 - Saturday, July 08, 2006 at 20:49:57 (UTC)

Sheila K:
Trix: Perhaps this site will be of some help. I truly hope you find him.
http://www.volksbund.de/graebersuche/content_suche.asp
- 12.73.238.200 - Saturday, July 08, 2006 at 23:32:38 (UTC)

Trix:
Sheila - as always THANK YOU.
- 209.240.245.104 - Sunday, July 09, 2006 at 02:43:13 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy Sunday everyone..
- 68.194.42.188 - Sunday, July 09, 2006 at 19:55:54 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all have had a good week. Rained today.
Not much, but badly needed. Have a super week. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.72 - Sunday, July 09, 2006 at 23:17:04 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Hello everyone...take a look at the photo I posted to the upload page. We're trying to identify as many of these folks from Unterbuchberg as we can.
- 71.236.116.249 - Sunday, July 16, 2006 at 23:55:00 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello everyone. Hope everyone is out of the oppresive heat. Paul B.......did you get the Treffen itinerary that I emailed to you? My sister and I have made our reservations and are very excited about the 2006 Treffen ! Hope to see some of you there?
- 69.179.1.184 - Monday, July 17, 2006 at 00:03:46 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. 100 degrees here in KCMO today. Will be 98 to 100 every day next week. When Denver is 100, we know global warming is a fact. Fargo, ND. was also 100 one day this week, but it cools off at night. We just stay hot.
Hoping for cooler weather and much needed rain.
Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.51 - Monday, July 17, 2006 at 00:25:01 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
The same at Waukenabo. Very, very hot and we, too, need rain badly.Wish you all a good week. Stay well.
- 209.240.245.71 - Monday, July 17, 2006 at 01:05:51 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Hope you all have a great week and cooler weather comes your way!
The worst thing about hot weather is getting into a hot car.
- 24.67.253.204 - Monday, July 17, 2006 at 07:59:14 (UTC)

Nancy:
Some relief from the awful heat and humidity today. Hope it last for the weekend. See you all on Sunday.
- 69.179.25.61 - Friday, July 21, 2006 at 20:16:57 (UTC)

George Plautz:
What happend to the Gottscheer Bulletin Board?
- 72.64.180.223 - Monday, July 24, 2006 at 18:42:29 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Hi George, it's still available at the following address:
http://hwk.best.vwh.net/gtbb

Due to automated spam the address had to be changed.
- 71.236.116.249 - Monday, July 24, 2006 at 19:32:09 (UTC)

Ma:
Hello, all. Missed last week. Out of town. Beastly hot here in KCMO. 100 today - heat indes out of sight. Hoping for cooler weather. Hope all are staying cool.
- 64.218.109.16 - Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 17:52:42 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Hi, everyone, hope you all had a great weekend. Ours was good, much cooler weather and a good rainfall too.
It seems to me no-one on tonight.
My hubby, 2 grandkids and I are going to Shuswap Lake for the week, at least til Friday. Hope the weather will be just right for us, the weatherman has predicted it to be so.
Hope you all have a great week, keep well!
- 24.67.253.204 - Monday, July 31, 2006 at 07:37:45 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Hello All: A cool front brought rain and lower temps to KC. What a relief! ANother heat wave poised to strike next week. Am leaving message early. Will be gone Fri to Sun late. Hope everyone gets a taste of cool weather.
Hoping for an early fall. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.108 - Friday, August 04, 2006 at 00:14:48 (UTC)

Trix:
Question for all of you. All my life I have heard my mother say that when you start to peal a cucumber be sure you start on the right end or they will taste bitter. Sure enough I have tasted them bitter. Can anyone tell me which end is the right one? THANK YOU.
- 209.240.245.153 - Tuesday, August 08, 2006 at 23:37:40 (UTC)

:
sophia, the end where the flower grows is the bitter end; it's the opposite end from where it's attached to the vine. since you can't often tell post-harvest (or when you get them at the grocery) which is the flower end simply cut off both ends before you peel. a simple solution. fyi, here's a simple but very tasty recipe for fresh cucumbers: peel (as i described); slice the cuke into uniformly thin slices (i use a mandolin), about the thickness of a dime or nickle; sprinkle with a generous amount of kosher salt and mix well. let stand for about an hour stirring from time-to-time; rinse under cold water and let drain; squeeze the excess water from the cuke slices; add chopped fresh dill, some salt and white pepper white wine vinegar, vegetable oil and oli; mix from time to time and let stand for about an hour before serving. refreshing and delicious and goes well with schnitzel.
- 69.204.165.47 - Thursday, August 10, 2006 at 00:06:47 (UTC)

william:
that last one was from me sophia
- 69.204.165.47 - Thursday, August 10, 2006 at 00:07:29 (UTC)

william:
sophia, re finding your brother. try this link:
https://anfrage.kirchlicher-suchdienst.de/index.php
i had some luck with them finding information on my father's father, a solider in the wehrmacht who died in stalingrad in 1943.
- 69.204.165.47 - Thursday, August 10, 2006 at 00:09:13 (UTC)

william:
sophia, this one may be helpful too:
http://www.dd-wast.de/
- 69.204.165.47 - Thursday, August 10, 2006 at 00:10:16 (UTC)

william:
everyone, because of personal issues i've been absent from this site for the past two months and have missed reading the postings. these past weeks have been extraordinarily difficult for me but i think i'm past the hump. strange, that i had two remarkable, wonderful weeks of discovery in gottschee that were almost immediately followed by two months of true difficulty and heartache. i'm again in a place where i can refocus on writing the conclusion to my gottschee trip memoires; thx to all of you for the encouraging and positive comments: i've spoken with academic types about it and have even had some read it and they are encouraging me to seek publication (albeit with some modifications for the sake of clarity). i hope to have the final portions written in the very near future so stay tuned for them. it's good to back among the living again.
- 69.204.165.47 - Thursday, August 10, 2006 at 00:15:45 (UTC)

william:
sophia, could you pls tell me your email address; there's something i'd like to discuss with you. thx.
- 69.204.165.47 - Thursday, August 10, 2006 at 00:19:55 (UTC)

Sophia aka Trix:
William, I must say it is very, very good to hear from you again. You have been in my thoughts. Knew there had to be a good reason. I wish you all the best.

My e-mail: wyants@mlecmn.net

THANK YOU so much for the cucumber information. Agree, that is the best way to eat them and yes, superb with Schnitzel.
I am saving the information and sharing it with others.

God Bless.
- 209.240.245.98 - Thursday, August 10, 2006 at 04:06:42 (UTC)

william:
sophia, thx. i just emailed you.
- 204.97.128.49 - Thursday, August 10, 2006 at 14:02:29 (UTC)

Helmuth:
William, we always enjoy your contributions. All the best.
- 170.201.180.33 - Thursday, August 10, 2006 at 14:30:03 (UTC)

John Maisel:
Hello, I am looking for any information on my Great Grandfather, Josef Maisel who I beleive came to the United States in 1903. I am told he had a twin but I don't know much beyond that. Josef DOB was 2/14/1872 he was married to Maria Osterman and his parents names where John Maisel and Margaret Stonitch I believe. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you My email is john_maisel@hotmail.com
- 65.35.226.241 - Friday, August 11, 2006 at 23:42:39 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Will log on early. Hope all are well. We are still sweltering in KCMO. Also dry as a bone. Rain comes near, but always misses us. Wish for an early fall.
Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.118 - Sunday, August 13, 2006 at 22:49:57 (UTC)

william:
hi all. when is the big gottschee treffen in ridgewood? what's the schedule of events? who all is going? i'm nagging my mother (maria zurl, morobitz, 1932) about going; i told her i won't let up until she says yes.
- 69.204.165.47 - Tuesday, August 15, 2006 at 01:48:12 (UTC)

Trix:
Am sending you the New York Gottscheer web site which has all the details. You and your mom would love it. Go!!!
- 209.240.245.101 - Tuesday, August 15, 2006 at 04:11:41 (UTC)

:
trix, will you be there?
- 204.97.128.49 - Tuesday, August 15, 2006 at 19:56:52 (UTC)

william:
oops, that last one was from me
- 204.97.128.49 - Tuesday, August 15, 2006 at 19:57:21 (UTC)

Nancy:
My sister and I will be attending this years Treffen...also many of our fellow travelers from 2005 Gottschee tour. Hope to see you there.
- 207.118.222.104 - Tuesday, August 15, 2006 at 21:22:09 (UTC)

Trix:
I am sorry but I am not able to attend the Treffen this year. Everyone attening please have a wonderful time and dance a couple for me too.
- 209.240.245.130 - Tuesday, August 15, 2006 at 23:16:42 (UTC)

Frank:
See you all at the Treffen,but only for saturday night at the clubhouse.
- 72.68.177.16 - Wednesday, August 16, 2006 at 04:18:30 (UTC)

Trix:
Frank who? Chicago? Vancouver? or------Would be nice to know.
Thanks
- 209.240.245.83 - Wednesday, August 16, 2006 at 17:17:35 (UTC)

Helmuth:
According to the address database, that IP address is Verizon on the east coast...perhaps there is a Ridgewood Frank?
- 71.236.116.249 - Wednesday, August 16, 2006 at 19:35:48 (UTC)

william:
trix, i'm disappointed you won't be there; i was hoping to finally meet you. maybe our mtg is on the horizon for another time.
- 69.204.165.47 - Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 00:53:26 (UTC)

Trix:
Thank you Helmuth and Thank you William. Yes, there is a meeting on the horizon another time. Please go, take your usual awesome photos and share them.
Frank, tell us who you are ok?
- 216.251.169.153 - Thursday, August 17, 2006 at 02:46:25 (UTC)

Frank:
Sorry Trix, Last name is Kropf and I'm a New Yorker.
- 71.125.253.237 - Friday, August 18, 2006 at 03:58:02 (UTC)

Trix:
Thank you Frank Kropf. Good to hear from you. Are you the one who might have a connection to the village of Altbacher in the former Gottschee?

Have a GREAT time at the Treffen and dance a couple for me too.
- 209.240.245.95 - Friday, August 18, 2006 at 09:19:06 (UTC)

Paul B.:
All you folks attending the Treffen--Wish you all a great time....Unfortunetly we cannot make this one....
- 68.194.42.188 - Sunday, August 20, 2006 at 01:11:45 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
Greetings from Waukenabo where we are enjoying a WONDERFUL fall? day. It is sunny, cool, blue skies and a slight north wind. It just does not get any better than this.
I echo Paul's good wishes for all attending the North American Gottscheer Treffen in New York. Enjoy and have a wonderful time and PLEASE take photos and share them for the Gottscheer Connection newsletter. And yes, dance a couple for me too. Sorry I cannot join you. Maybe next time.
Be happy - enjoy life.
- 209.240.245.74 - Sunday, August 20, 2006 at 17:34:44 (UTC)

Nancy:
Yes...it is a beautiful day here! I hope the wonderful weather follows us to New York. Have a great week everyone.
- 207.118.214.250 - Sunday, August 20, 2006 at 23:45:30 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Just returned from the upper peninsula in Michigan. Very cool up there. Hard to return to MO temps.
We are creeping toward fall. Glad to see this summer go.
Want to wish all a good week. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib geaund.
- 64.218.109.17 - Monday, August 21, 2006 at 00:30:17 (UTC)

Paul B:
YES-HAVE A GOOD WEEK EVERYONE-MY NEW PC IS NOW INSTALLED AND IT WILL TAKE ME ANOTHER HUNDRED YEARS TO GET EVERYTHING SET UP IN IT.Helmuth, Please help me get my password back fo PZ 2...Thank You...
- 68.194.38.26 - Monday, August 21, 2006 at 00:54:55 (UTC)

Nancy:
Gee Paul....looks as though the new PC is chomping at the bit!!!! What kind did you get? My PC is terribly slow these days.
- 207.118.221.104 - Monday, August 21, 2006 at 21:13:05 (UTC)

Helmuth:
What drives me crazy about getting a new PC is that there are all these "busy boxes" I call them, reminders that you need this or that software, anti-virus, spam blockers, spyware blockers, and if you ignore the messages they come back up next time you reboot. Anything to get more of your money.

Paul, I sent you an email with a new password. In the meantime delete your bookmark or favorite for the PZ and bookmark this link instead:
http://hwk.best.vwh.net/chat/tqchat.html
- 71.236.116.249 - Tuesday, August 22, 2006 at 00:49:07 (UTC)

Helmuth:
I didn't want to give people the wrong impression: anti-virus is important but the other things are mainly built-in to the newer operating systems and browsers.
- 71.236.116.249 - Tuesday, August 22, 2006 at 00:52:19 (UTC)

Frank:
Sorry Trix no connection to Altbacher as far as I know.Family is from Schalkendorf and Ebenthal.All the Kropf's are related however distant.
- 72.68.186.121 - Tuesday, August 22, 2006 at 03:08:29 (UTC)

Trix:
Thank you Frank. You must then be related to a Ken Kropf who lives in California, who, too, has connections to Schalkendorf 17, yes?
- 216.251.169.48 - Tuesday, August 22, 2006 at 15:00:12 (UTC)

Frank:
Trix, I've been in contact with Ken.Might have to go back two or three centuries to trace the connection.
- 71.125.240.205 - Tuesday, August 22, 2006 at 19:50:49 (UTC)

Trix:
Question for all you smart people who visit the Gottscheer Plauderzimmer. I have microsoft word and symbols (meaning Umlauts, the slavic S with the check on top etc.). Does Apple computer have the same?

THANK YOU.
- 216.251.169.9 - Tuesday, August 22, 2006 at 22:53:52 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Microsoft Word is available for both Windows and Apple (Mac), so all the functionality should be in both versions.
- 71.236.116.249 - Wednesday, August 23, 2006 at 02:41:05 (UTC)

Trix:
Helmuth - vielen, vielen Dank. I appreciate it.

May I ask one more question please? I recently sent a Microsoft word document to a friend. Turns out she has an Apple (Mac) and has me to make the document into a pdf, tiff or jpg document. Can you tell if I can do it from word and if yes, How is it done? Thank you. I owe you.
- 216.251.169.9 - Wednesday, August 23, 2006 at 03:32:56 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Now it gets tricky. Some newer versions of Word can save a file as a .pdf (portable document format, an Adobe format). There is a built-in converter in Word. Since I don't have this newer version I'm not sure how to do it, but if I was a bettin' man I'd say File - Save As then look for pdf as one of the file formats to save as.

As far as I know there's no way to save a Word document directly as a tiff or jpg.

You could always save the file as a web file and send your friend the html file and embedded images (if any). File - Save As, then under "Save as type", choose Web Page on the list. Then send her the .htm file that results.
- 170.201.180.33 - Wednesday, August 23, 2006 at 14:30:36 (UTC)

Nancy:
Trix.......I've forwarded an email which I received last Feb regarding umlauts....it seems there's a way to access them from ANY keyboard.....although....I've never tried this myself.....and.....I think you'll need to have an updated PDF format downloaded (if you don't already) to "transfer" the Word file to it. Is this correct Helmuth?
- 69.179.43.57 - Wednesday, August 23, 2006 at 21:28:54 (UTC)

Nancy:
Just checked in on the PZ2....Franz tells me that Albin Petschauer passed away. The funeral was today. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family.
- 69.179.43.57 - Wednesday, August 23, 2006 at 21:32:48 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Nancy, it sounds like you know more about the pdf format than I do so I will take your word for it. I'm not much of a Windows person. I know that Adobe PDF is a great format for people who don't want their documents modified.
- 71.236.116.249 - Thursday, August 24, 2006 at 19:26:07 (UTC)

Nancy:
Helmuth....by no means do I know much about computers....it seems PDF is the only format I can print from files sent to me. I have the same problem as the person Trix mentions....I can't print anything sent to me in WORD even though I've tried installing "Office Suite." Any advice? By the way....love the new website look!
- 69.179.9.235 - Thursday, August 24, 2006 at 20:50:09 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Well, the one thing that sticks in my mind is that Microsoft changes the .doc format with every upgrade of Word. Sometimes files are easier to share if you click File - Save As and in the "type" box, pick Word '98, Word 6.0, or one of the older Word formats. That seems to make the file a little more "universal".
- 71.236.116.249 - Thursday, August 24, 2006 at 21:15:54 (UTC)

Nancy:
Thanks Helmuth....I'll give it a try.
- 69.179.9.235 - Thursday, August 24, 2006 at 21:27:25 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Thanks for your kind words on the format. I have to give a big "Thank You" to William who allowed me to use his photo of the church in Stadt Gottschee for the artwork.
- 71.236.116.249 - Thursday, August 24, 2006 at 21:28:05 (UTC)

Nancy:
Yes...thank you William. The photo is really lovely.
- 69.179.9.235 - Thursday, August 24, 2006 at 22:27:38 (UTC)

Elfriede :
Helmuth: Beautiful job on website design.
- 205.188.116.10 - Thursday, August 24, 2006 at 22:34:58 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Sorry about the repeats on the PZ-Little crazy around here--don't know how I did that...Helmuth, i still can't get on PZ2--what am i doing wrong?
- 68.194.38.26 - Sunday, August 27, 2006 at 04:39:03 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Paul, send me an email so I have your current email address. hwk@KT3L.com

- 71.236.116.249 - Sunday, August 27, 2006 at 12:09:26 (UTC)

Nancy:
I wish you all a good week.
- 69.179.50.215 - Sunday, August 27, 2006 at 23:50:04 (UTC)

:
Greetings from Waukenabo. I am mowing our huge lawn and while being on the rider, of course, that is good thinking time. Today I got to thinking about the Linden Baum (the Gottscheer tree) and the tea that we used to drink from its blossoms.

Can someone pleasse share your memories of the lINDEN Tree blossoms, what they look like, how to harvest them and the amount you would use to make tea. If I remember correctly the Linden Tee serves a good medicial purpose too.

Can't wait to learn more about this important Gottscheer cultural legacy. THANK YOU.
- 216.251.169.6 - Monday, August 28, 2006 at 19:27:54 (UTC)

Marilu:
I don't know anything about the medicinal values of this tree, but I have 3 huge Linden trees in my yard. I was surprised when I first learned about 5 years ago that they are all over Gottschee and Germany also.
- 207.200.116.73 - Tuesday, August 29, 2006 at 01:46:44 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Hi, I had a wonderfull time at the lake. Our trailer is in a large group of cedar trees, that smell so good.
About the Linden tree, it is a lovely tree, the blossoms smell so nice when they bloom in spring.
I remember my brother telling me about a Linden tree
in our Village of Reichenau and when I was there last year on the Gottscheer Tour I found one just where he said there was one. I'm not sure it is the same one or another one has grown there.
I was very happy to find it and it was quite large.
Does anyone know how long they live?
- 24.67.253.204 - Tuesday, August 29, 2006 at 04:36:02 (UTC)

Marilu:
I only know the trees at my house are about 45 years old and show no sign of dying.
- 207.200.116.13 - Tuesday, August 29, 2006 at 22:03:56 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Greetings: A simple Google search provided me with more information on the Linden tree than I could possibly digest. I also ran into numerous sites with information on the tea, and medicinal uses. Take your pick...there's plenty of sites to choose from. One site I saw said the tree could live to be 1,000 years old.
- 70.245.112.169 - Wednesday, August 30, 2006 at 00:21:14 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
I did find this Linden tree site that gives a little info on preparing, and amounts to use: http://www.vitalitymagazine.com/node/397
- 70.245.112.169 - Wednesday, August 30, 2006 at 00:29:39 (UTC)

Paula:
Reg. the Linden tree...Our Mom used to pick the blossoms, spread them on a flat surface outside in the sunshine, stir them once in a while until they were completely dry. She stored them in a cloth sack and used a good handful to boil for a big pot of tea. That, with a piece of bread, was our supper many times in Feffernitz, where I grew up. I remember the tea was kind of a reddish color. When you pick the blossoms you have to watch out for bees, as they like them too.
- 70.100.90.49 - Wednesday, August 30, 2006 at 01:40:56 (UTC)

Trox:
Hi Paula. Thanks very much. That is the way I seem to remember watching my mother. Boy, when you mention Feffernitz that brings back memories to me too. My father returned from the war while my mom and I were at Feffernitz. He was skin and bone and when he called my I ran from him. Those were tough times but here we are enjoying the good life. IT IS GOOD INDEED.
- 209.240.245.146 - Wednesday, August 30, 2006 at 02:29:45 (UTC)

:
helmuth, the new site looks really great. you did a great job on it. hats off to you!
- 69.204.165.47 - Thursday, August 31, 2006 at 01:38:40 (UTC)

william:
sorry - that last one was from me.
- 69.204.165.47 - Thursday, August 31, 2006 at 01:39:16 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Likewise, William, thanks for sharing your photo and for the nice comments. I felt the twin steeples of the church in Gottschee were a very recognizable icon. It's not perfect but it's a start.
- 71.236.116.249 - Thursday, August 31, 2006 at 02:21:09 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Let me say it a different way. Not everyone out there is as willing to share their photos or other contributions as William is, as well as all the others who have contributed pictures to the archive and valuable information to the PZ and GBB. Bravo to you all, it is your unselfish contributions, made in the spirit of sharing and collaboration, that have made this site what it is. THIS is what the Internet was supposed to be.
- 71.236.116.249 - Thursday, August 31, 2006 at 02:32:03 (UTC)

Paul Brasino:
Hello everyone wish you all a pleasant week end...Hope the weather treats you well....
- 68.194.38.26 - Saturday, September 02, 2006 at 01:45:32 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Just checking in to say hello. Helmuth, thank you for all your hard work. Your website has been responsible for so many good things -- new memories, new contacts, old memories rekindled, tales of the old country, and on and on....
- 205.188.116.131 - Saturday, September 02, 2006 at 12:33:56 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Thanks, Jim! You have contributed many of those good things yourself.
- 71.236.116.249 - Saturday, September 02, 2006 at 15:27:27 (UTC)

nancy:
Greetings to all. We're getting ready for the Gottscheer Treffen. Will give full report after the weekend.
- 207.237.193.239 - Saturday, September 02, 2006 at 15:53:57 (UTC)

CSharp:
Helmuth:
I have a problem, cannot get on Plauderzimmer2.
Please check my password. Thank You, Christine
- 207.200.116.196 - Saturday, September 02, 2006 at 16:45:56 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Hi Christine, I've sent you an email.
- 71.236.116.249 - Saturday, September 02, 2006 at 17:51:01 (UTC)

CSharp:
Helmuth:
Still cannot get on Plauderzimmer2
The new password does not work, please help.
Thank You Christine
- 207.200.116.135 - Saturday, September 02, 2006 at 21:10:21 (UTC)

CSharp:
Helmuth:
Still unable to log onto the Plauderzimmer 2. I was able to log on yesterday with the old password, which you fixed to remember when the Plauderzimmer 2
first began. Sorry for all the trouble, I keep getting no authorization for both new passwords. Sorry to be a problem. Thank You, Christine
- 207.200.116.73 - Sunday, September 03, 2006 at 01:44:41 (UTC)

Marilu:
Helmuth, all of a sudden my password is not working for plauderzimmer 2. It has my name in wrong, and when I type in my password it does not work.
- 207.200.116.195 - Sunday, September 03, 2006 at 02:24:29 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Marilu and Christine, no problem. Check your email from me, and email me back if you're still having problems.
- 71.236.116.249 - Sunday, September 03, 2006 at 03:23:52 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Hi, Helmuth, I am also having the same problem.
Before I didn't need to type in my password, it would say welcome Regina and I just entered.
And of course I don't remember my password.
my email is drgardner@shaw.ca
Thanks Helmuth!
- 24.67.253.204 - Sunday, September 03, 2006 at 04:23:36 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Anyone else who's having problems, email me directly, hwk@KT3L.com and we'll get you straightened out. I think some of these web browsers are hitting an expiration date or some other issue where you have to re-type your information to get on.
- 71.236.116.249 - Sunday, September 03, 2006 at 11:58:05 (UTC)

Helmuth:
HA! It just happened to me, too.
- 71.236.116.249 - Sunday, September 03, 2006 at 12:00:24 (UTC)

Helmuth:
I see now what happened. As part of the site re-indexing that I was doing, t he "official" name for the secure area changed, and now our browsers think we ar e visiting a different site. So they blank out our usernames and passwords.

If you remember your username and password, just type it in. If you don't, see if you still have my email from a year ago. If that fails, email me and I'll reset your password.
- 71.236.116.249 - Sunday, September 03, 2006 at 12:14:05 (UTC)

william:
hi everyone,

greetings from rainy new york. i went to the dedication of the gottschee tracht at st. john's university yday. it made feel good to see all the effort people have and continue to make to preserve what's left of our heritage. maybe, someday, when someone asks me about my ethnic background they won't get a puzzled look on their face and answer with the inevitable 'what's that'. heck, i'd be happy with a 'oh i've heard something about that'.

turn-out was pretty good considering nyc was taking a beating from the remenants oft that hurricane. i got to meet nancy from minnesota, a gpz regular; it was nice to met and chat with her face-to-face. it was just as nice to hear so many people speaking gottscheerbaerisch; it made me feel like i was a kid again at my grandmother's house in glendale with my mom and her siblings racing around, cooking some huge meal and shouting to each other in gottscheerbaerisch and us kids standing there having almost no clue (despite that we all spoke german) what they were saying.

have a good rest of the weekend.
- 69.204.165.47 - Sunday, September 03, 2006 at 20:03:46 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Just got a good look at the new web site. Nice. Very compact. Easy to read. Hope everyone is pleased with the new look. Cooling off in KCMO. Fall slowly creeping in. Everything is green now, not brown and ugly. Rain does wonders.
Auf weidersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.24 - Sunday, September 03, 2006 at 21:24:39 (UTC)

Sophia aka Trix:
An inquiry from a friend in Slovenia. Can anyone help? THANK YOU.

BTW: Speaking of these do you know of any memoirs of Gottschers? Who described their life in Austro-Hungary, WW1, Kingdom Yugoslavia and/or WW2?? I can't find any, but surely someone write his memoires, published diary or wrot autobiopghaph... */
- 209.240.245.175 - Monday, September 04, 2006 at 15:09:05 (UTC)

Trix:
Nancy - we are all waiting for your detailed report on the Treffen. Hope you had a GREAT time.
- 209.240.245.139 - Tuesday, September 05, 2006 at 02:55:36 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Good evening everyone. Welcome back from the New York Treffen; a good time was had by all. Congratulations New York on a wonderful reception and Treffen agenda. It was enjoyed by all. Met many good friends and made new friends. Again, New York congratulations from all of us here in Cleveland, Ohio. See you all next year in Kitchener.
- 205.188.116.65 - Tuesday, September 05, 2006 at 03:14:17 (UTC)

Sophia:
THANK YOU Hilde. Glad to know it is Kitchener in 2007.
- 209.240.245.139 - Tuesday, September 05, 2006 at 03:16:52 (UTC)

CSharp:
Still having problems with Plauderzimmer2 still getting No Authorization so cannot log on. any one else having the same problem? was alright on Friday but could not log on Saturday, Sunday Ot today Monday.Thanks Christine

- 207.200.116.67 - Tuesday, September 05, 2006 at 04:15:13 (UTC)

Eddie Rabuse:
I just submitted 5 photos taken at the Treffen in Ridgewood (Brooklyn/Queens),NY. Helmuth, I noticed the pictures came across much too large. Too many megapixels, I suppose. Can you repair the damage? Thanks!
- 24.46.124.10 - Tuesday, September 05, 2006 at 13:47:30 (UTC)

Helmuth:
No problem Eddie. I'm at work right now so I will fix them later this evening. Looks like some great photos!
- 170.201.180.33 - Tuesday, September 05, 2006 at 14:22:31 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
Eddie - THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your great photos. They tell the story of another successful North American Gottscheer Treffen well. Hope all is well with you.
- 209.240.245.100 - Tuesday, September 05, 2006 at 14:49:45 (UTC)

Eddie Rabuse:
Thanks, Helmuth. Hope you can downsize them a bit. If not, I may have to ask the PZ regulars to buy a 56" plasma computer monitor to get it all in... if they don't already have one. I took about 60 photos but the 5 I sent should give you an idea of how the day went.

Trix, we're ok. Heard from Klemen (?) lately?

- 24.46.124.10 - Tuesday, September 05, 2006 at 19:24:37 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Mr. Rabuse. Glad all is well. Talking about Klemen - yes, I have been in touch with him over the weekend. He is looking information on Gottscheers even during the WWI period. He is very interestd in history and is studying hard to pass his exam. Drop him a line - he would like. I hope you will share more photos. They are AWESOME.
- 216.251.169.3 - Wednesday, September 06, 2006 at 01:06:34 (UTC)

margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend.
Raining here in Kc and very welcome indeed. Hope all are well and enjoying early fall weather.
Hope to hear reports on the treffen just passed.
Till next week. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.45 - Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 23:11:43 (UTC)

Nancy:
testing
- 69.179.5.244 - Sunday, September 10, 2006 at 23:15:45 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Hi, hope everyone had a great weekend! I had a great week and weekend. We went to Victoria to visit our youngest daughter there. On the way back we visited my sister in Richmond, near Vancouver and my brother.
Trix, my sister had the Gottscheer Zeitung and I saw the picture of you and your daughter Maria, regarding funding for your homevillage church in Gottschee, so I told her about you, so she let me take the newspaper home with me. I also sent you email to her daughter with the Gottscheer accordian music and poetry and other stuff.
- 24.67.253.204 - Monday, September 11, 2006 at 06:09:28 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Hey, this is unusual no one on tonight.
Thanks Trix for sending me the music email!
- 24.67.253.204 - Monday, September 11, 2006 at 06:12:18 (UTC)

Nancy:
Thank you Trix for the advice on short segments. Thanks too to Eddie for posting the photos of Sundays Treffen events. I've posted some from Saturday. The dedication was very nice despite the remaining winds and rain from Ernesto. St John's campus (and the new chapel) is beautiful.
- 72.160.206.98 - Monday, September 11, 2006 at 20:53:19 (UTC)

Nancy:
I can't tell you how moved I was at seeing the Gottscheer Hall marquee for the first time. You see...I never knew my grandparents and my father died many years ago without any knowledge of his Gottscheer heritage. I understand my grandmother died thinking that much of her homeland and culture was completely destroyed. How I wish I could share with her, and my father,the rich history of her homeland and of the efforts to keep this heritage alive in the remaining Gottscheers and those of us of Gottscheer descent.
- 72.160.206.98 - Monday, September 11, 2006 at 21:00:40 (UTC)

Nancy:
Saturday's dinner and dance was very festive and it was so nice to reconnect with old friends and to meet new ones as well. I understand 400 people attended the Clubhouse dinner. Thanks to the lovely Cleveland group for giving us a lift to dinner. I met our William at St John's...a very nice fellow. (William...I didn't give away the ending to your story....how did the visit to your uncle go?)
- 72.160.206.98 - Monday, September 11, 2006 at 21:04:07 (UTC)

Nancy:
Unfortunately, my sister and I were unable to attend Sunday's events because of the early arrival of her grandchild. 6# Liam was worth departing early for but I do regret missing the mass. I was so looking forward to it.
- 72.160.206.98 - Monday, September 11, 2006 at 21:07:08 (UTC)

Nancy:
We were able to visit many sites the week before the Treffen. Ellis island is always moving and the Tenement Museum is fab....I highly recommend it to anyone. We walked everywhere and spent a day in Brooklyn as well to see the neighborhood where my grandmother lived 100 years ago.
- 72.160.206.98 - Monday, September 11, 2006 at 21:10:01 (UTC)

Nancy:
This past Tuesday, my hubsband and I traveled to Guttenberg, Iowa via the Great River Road. Is it Marylu from Guttenberg? You're right....very lovely. I found out that my Petschauer ancestors spent some time in Guttenberg before settling in St Paul. I was surprised to find many old German homes there closely resemble some old Gottscheer homes. The Great River Road is wonderful and begins in my current hometown of Prescott. I've posted a photo of Fountain City which is down the road from us and also located along the Mississippi River Valley. I like the idea of sharing photos of where we live...I believe this idea came from Franz of Vancouver....a great idea!!!!!!!!! Let's see some more.
- 72.160.206.98 - Monday, September 11, 2006 at 21:16:52 (UTC)

Nancy:
Thanks again for your patience in getting this posted and thanks again Trix for sharing the tip on getting it posted. Mit Liebe.
- 72.160.206.98 - Monday, September 11, 2006 at 21:18:20 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Helmuth - and any other Wagner opera lovers out there…..
This evening the CBC starts live broadcasts of the Ring on CBC - Radio Two http://www.cbc.ca/listen/index.html#
Das Rheingold starts at 7:00 p.m. – Sept. 12/06
Die Walküre will be broadcast tomorrow at 7:00 p.m.
Siegfried will be on Friday at 2:00 p.m. – Sept. 15
Götterdämmerung will be on Sunday at 2:00 p.m. – Sept. 17
The times given are for the Eastern time zone
It’s the official opening of our new Opera House
http://www.ringcycle.ca/production/dates.htm

- 64.229.205.243 - Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 13:04:40 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Listening to Das Rheingold now Ridy. Thanks for the tip!
- 71.236.116.249 - Wednesday, September 13, 2006 at 00:39:22 (UTC)

Marilu:
Hi Nancy I am not from Guttenberg, but some of my ancestors did live there. Next time I am in Iowa I will have to try and visit there.
- 207.200.116.7 - Thursday, September 14, 2006 at 02:34:26 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
Good Morning from Minnesota. Another beautiful day in the making.

I am looking for volunteer help. Have a bundle of typed pages telling the story of an incidivual, with Gottscheer connections, who served in the war, eventually came to America, returned to Europe to get his medical education and worked as an orthopedic surgeon for many years. He is now retired. It is good reading.

I am looking for an individual who could type these pages unto a disc and hopefully edit the materials along the way. It is possible that it could be published and available to all interested.

If you are interested and would have the time to volunteer, please write to me at wyants@mlecmn.net.

Your help would be appreciated.
- 209.240.245.172 - Thursday, September 14, 2006 at 15:07:08 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all are well and enjoying fall weather. Got so excited about Guttenberg, Iowa, that I looked it up in my atlas. Will definitely put it on my list of towns to visit. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.134 - Monday, September 18, 2006 at 00:37:35 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi everyone. Hope you are enjoying a good day.

Question: In Gottschee there was a fruit tree called either Stiefkracken or Tiefkracken. It is a special type fruit that ripens in the fall. You then pick them, place them into hay and let them soften. I remember that tree in our yard and loving the fruit. Can anyone tell me the name in either German or English so that I can research it further?

Thank you.
- 209.240.245.84 - Thursday, September 21, 2006 at 14:16:28 (UTC)

william:
sophia, i just emailed you. william

- 69.204.165.47 - Friday, September 22, 2006 at 11:52:35 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Lovely fall weather here in KCMO. Hope all are enjoying the same. Forgot to ask about the Labor Day treffen. I'm sure everyone had a wonderful time. See you all next week. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.118 - Sunday, September 24, 2006 at 23:11:00 (UTC)

:
Hi Nancy....just wanted to ask you if the "old pancake" house is still in Guttenberg? I spent so much time in Guttenberg as a kid which I think I shared with you before...and we always ate there. Did you get to Dyersville?? It is about 30 miles south and has the beautiful Basilica of St Francis Xavier. Dyersville is where I was born and raised. Wonderful road to travel, eh? Best Wishes, Beverly
- 69.30.154.211 - Monday, September 25, 2006 at 01:45:15 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello Beverly! I don't know about the pancake house and we didn't get as far south as Dyersville But...Guttenberg is just lovely and the Great River Road is awesome. Our fall color tour will probably be that route again. We did go out of our way on the return home to stop at a small German shop in Lanesboro which was recently voted as the "Best Small Town" or "Best River Town" by Life magazine...that's Lanesboro, MN. Have a great week everyone.
- 69.179.6.248 - Monday, September 25, 2006 at 21:06:22 (UTC)

Frank:
Does anyone know of a person who makes wood carvings of the city of Gottschee? Mr Putre used to make beautiful carvings and have them on display at the Gottscheer picnic in New York,but I believe he died years ago.
- 72.68.182.29 - Thursday, September 28, 2006 at 02:28:22 (UTC)

Sophia:
You are right Frank Mr. Putre did an awesome job. I have a few of his pieces but regret deeply that I did not purchase one of his trunks. They are truly something to see. Mrs. Putre, to the best of my knowledge, still lives in Hawley, PA. I had the great pleasure of meeting her in 1998. I would like to do a story on Mr. Putre's work.
- 209.240.245.88 - Thursday, September 28, 2006 at 04:29:49 (UTC)

Frank:
Sophia: I also have one carving.My cousin called Mrs. Putre in Hawley a few years ago to purchase one and she asked his last name.Well it wasn't Gottscheer but Irish and she wouldn't sell it to him.He's the reason I asked about the wood carver.We were at a funeral this weekend and he mentioned he still would like to get one.
- 72.68.187.133 - Thursday, September 28, 2006 at 20:05:43 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Summer has returned to KCMO. 93 today. Will be 90 for most of next week. Our cool fall weather is gone. Hope all will have a good week. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.108 - Sunday, October 01, 2006 at 22:27:15 (UTC)

william:
rain and cold in upstate ny... hope everyone is well.
- 69.204.165.47 - Sunday, October 01, 2006 at 23:53:39 (UTC)

Eduard Stalzer:
Grüße aus New Hampshire
- 65.175.222.165 - Monday, October 02, 2006 at 00:10:20 (UTC)

Eduard Stalzer:
Grüße aus New Hampshire
- 65.175.222.165 - Monday, October 02, 2006 at 00:10:59 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Eddie,
Hope you and Nancy are well. Hope Krista is enjoying college. Keep in touch. Margie
- 64.218.109.54 - Monday, October 02, 2006 at 02:33:30 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
spending a couple of days on eastern Long Island. I have seen a couple of garden centers called Verderbers. I would think there is a Gottschee connnection in there somewhere. Is anyone familiar with the owners?
- 205.188.117.5 - Monday, October 02, 2006 at 11:27:22 (UTC)

Nancy:
Good to hear from you Jim. I've forwarded a query from a Tscherne. I wonder if anyone gets "Family Chronicle" magazine. The October issue contains numerous sites on immigrant ships. The site also includes rare advertising and such...really interesting....Trix....so far I've found several "Generals" but no "Muirs." I'll keep at it.
- 69.179.48.45 - Monday, October 02, 2006 at 21:21:57 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Hi Jim,

I too have passed the Verderber garden center. Although my mother is a Verderber, she knows of no connection. There were also a few Verderbers in Ridgewood that we not related to my other's family either.
- 67.101.152.157 - Tuesday, October 03, 2006 at 04:48:53 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Jim.

When I googled the name this is what came up:
VerDerBer's Farmstand
Address: 459 Main Road
Aquebogue, NY 11931
Tel: 631-722-2011
Fax: N/A
Email: N/A
Web: N/A
Contact: Maria Verderber
Directions: 4/10 of a mile East of Route 105 on the Main Road in Aquebogue.
If I had the time I would pursue it, but between my children and my elderly parents and my job, there is not much time for anything, even sleep!
- 67.101.152.157 - Tuesday, October 03, 2006 at 05:00:04 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Sorry about having the message appear in triplicate, especially with the spelling mistakes!
- 67.101.152.157 - Tuesday, October 03, 2006 at 22:17:08 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Elaine and all. I tried to call VerDerBer's Farmstand today but learned that the phone number is disconnected with no further information available. If anyone wants to check again I would be happy to try to contact th e family. Enjoy a beautiful day.
- 216.251.169.13 - Wednesday, October 04, 2006 at 18:20:31 (UTC)

Cara Roethel Ross:
I have a question for Franz of Vancouver re: one of your photos. My grandmother was a Miklitsch/Schager and grandfather was a Roethel/ Perz? Please email me at cararoe4@yahoo.com.
- 68.32.127.138 - Thursday, October 05, 2006 at 20:24:23 (UTC)

Sophia:
Cara: Can you please tell me from where your Schager grandmother came from in Gottschee? How about the Miklitsch, Roethel and Perz. feel free to e-mail me at wyants@mlecmn.net. I was born near the village of Tschrmoschnitz, Gottschee but have a sister in law born Schager from Maierle.
- 216.251.169.135 - Friday, October 06, 2006 at 00:45:17 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Hi Trix,
That was nice of you to try to find out info about Verderber farm. I checked out the name Verderber in that area of Suffolk county and there is a listing for a John Verderber in Aquebogue, which is the same town as the Verderber farm/nursery. The number listed is 631 722 8259.
- 67.101.158.195 - Friday, October 06, 2006 at 03:20:31 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I went online and googled the nursery as well. Checked the phone book, too. I was hoping for an email address but could not find one either. The nursery is still active. I probably won't call the personal phone number. Even though I have called people in the past, I feel odd "cold calling" them. Too bad about the lack of email. So much easier to contact people that way.
- 64.12.116.8 - Friday, October 06, 2006 at 21:29:58 (UTC)

Nancy:
An early greeting tonight. Still getting over the Twins loss.......oh well.....they made it that far. Update on that hockey playing nephew of mine. He is no longer playing in Germany...he is now playing in Slovenia!....in a place called Jesenice. I understand it's not far from Bled. It's a funny world sometimes. Have a great week everyone.
- 207.118.206.74 - Sunday, October 08, 2006 at 23:20:42 (UTC)

Arnold Rom:
Helmuth!

I really enjoy your new layout of your web site. It is nice to be able to go from anywhere to anywhere with a single link.

I don't know who said it, I think it was Einstein: "Anthyhing that has to be said can be said simply!, What you can't say simply you should not talk about."

Congratualtions on your streamlined and simplified web site.

Bravo .... Arnold Rom

- 67.101.4.145 - Monday, October 09, 2006 at 01:05:32 (UTC)

Eduard Stalzer:
Grüße aus New Hampshire

- 65.175.222.165 - Monday, October 09, 2006 at 01:38:08 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Thanks for your kind words Arnold. Response has been good to the site layout. There are still some additional things I want to do, but everything in time...
- 71.236.116.249 - Tuesday, October 10, 2006 at 01:23:43 (UTC)

Elfriede:
Several years ago, someone on the Plauderzimmer asked where Floyd Street was. In this week's Times Newsweekly (Ridgewood, NY), and in a column called "Our Neighborhood", a writer remarks that Floyd Street was in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, NY. He also stated that street names were changed in Queens in 1925. (Brooklyn street names were probably changed around the same time.) The column can be accessed by this web address: http://www.timesnewsweekly.com/NewFiles/OURNEIGH.html
- 205.188.116.195 - Friday, October 13, 2006 at 20:25:40 (UTC)

Marilu:
Elfriede: I think I was the one looking for Floyd Street. I think it was a Kump I was looking for. One of my Peschel's listed him as her contact when she came here, so I thought she married him. I found him in a census married to a Sophia on Floyd. And I finally found my Maria Peschel in Kansas married to Gabriel, thanks to Barry D.
- 207.200.116.202 - Friday, October 13, 2006 at 20:46:19 (UTC)

Marilu:
Oh and the article is interesting. thanks.
- 207.200.116.135 - Friday, October 13, 2006 at 20:46:54 (UTC)

Elfriede:
Marilu, I'm glad you found the Our Neighborhood column interesting. I look for it every week. I was always interested in Floyd Street because I knew the names of the streets in Glendale were changed. I grew up on 68 Street in Glendale and it was originally Meade Street. I wish there was a list somewhere that gave the old street names as well as the new names (80 years old!!)
- 64.12.116.195 - Friday, October 13, 2006 at 23:33:10 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Sorry it has been so long since I logged on. Things keep getting in the way of my Sunday plauderzimmer conversation. Eddie, I know you logged on last week. Hope you, Krista, Nancy are well. Had email from Werner last week. Glad they are going to FL, the warmer weather will help Trudy.

- 64.218.109.77 - Wednesday, October 18, 2006 at 00:29:14 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
The new photo that I posted is Bill Ternes, grandson of Rudolf and Albina Matzele from Wiederzug/Wrezen and nephew of Erika Soehn.
- 70.68.187.115 - Wednesday, October 18, 2006 at 16:39:29 (UTC)

Sophia:
Thank you for the beautiful photo of Bill Ternes.
Another Gottscheer doing good work.
- 216.251.169.43 - Thursday, October 19, 2006 at 03:09:53 (UTC)

Kusold,Doris:
Hallo Ich suche andere Familienmitglieder
- 212.118.220.12 - Friday, October 20, 2006 at 21:14:43 (UTC)

Sophia:
Grüße aus Minnesota. Doris, welche Namen suchst Du von Deiner Familie?
- 209.240.245.145 - Saturday, October 21, 2006 at 02:12:03 (UTC)

Jim H:
Stopping by to say hello. Hope everyone is doing well. It is a cold but sunny day in the east. Planning to do some fall gardening/pruning and then a small hike. The foliage is a little past prime but still worth looking at.

I am still looking at various family trees for a couple of people. Most recently, the "trail" for one has led to a Tscherne family from Gottschee. Josef Tscherne and Gertrud Tscherne had at least two children in the 1860-1870 range. There could be more. Does anyone have information on such a couple?

Have a good weekend!
- 205.188.116.69 - Saturday, October 21, 2006 at 12:09:16 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend Early message. Getting cold in KCMO.
We skipped fall, I think. Another of our distant Jonke cousins passed away yesterday - Cecilia Yonke - 98. She had never married. Nieces and nephews were her guardians. SHe and brother, Frank,
lived in KCKS. They were from Lichtenbach. Not much else. Am posting this on Saturday. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.30 - Sunday, October 22, 2006 at 00:53:56 (UTC)

Jim H:
Good Sunday evening.

A little more information on the Tschernes --- traced back to Lienfeld #11. Josef and Gertrud Tscherne most likely had a third child --- Josefa Tscherne who married a Johann Krauland.

Does anyone have any suggestions about preserving old documents? Are there services available to do this type of thing? The documents are fairly old ---one dates back to the 1890s and is a copy of a birth certificate.
- 152.163.100.130 - Monday, October 23, 2006 at 00:33:12 (UTC)

Jim H:
Trix, the Vikings had a very good day while the old coach, Dennis Green, did not. The playoffs are a possibility if they continue to play solid football.
- 152.163.100.135 - Monday, October 23, 2006 at 00:34:32 (UTC)

Trix:
Dr. Jim. How about laminating old documents? It would seem to me that might work?
- 209.240.245.86 - Monday, October 23, 2006 at 00:35:17 (UTC)

Trix:
Agree Dr. Jim - the Vikings did well today. I wish a good season for them and their new coach and owners. Lots of excitement about the possibilities.

BRRRRR here. Going down to 24F. The wood fire feels wonderful.
- 209.240.245.86 - Monday, October 23, 2006 at 00:36:45 (UTC)

Jim H:
They are in such bad shape that they might need to be repaired first. Laminating is a good idea. I thought putting them in a frame might be protective as well.
- 152.163.100.72 - Monday, October 23, 2006 at 00:37:41 (UTC)

Jim H:
A little warmer in NJ. A nice fireplace is always a good thing.
- 152.163.100.135 - Monday, October 23, 2006 at 00:38:37 (UTC)

Sheila K.:
Here are a couple of web sites that discuss document (and other) preservation. The first one is from the Library of Congress.
www.loc.gov/preserv/care/paper.html
http://loricase.com/faq.html
- 12.73.242.255 - Monday, October 23, 2006 at 12:30:00 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Sheila. Very good to heear from you and as always, excellent information. Hope all is well with you and yours. BRRRR here.
- 216.251.169.41 - Monday, October 23, 2006 at 14:17:58 (UTC)

Jim H:
Thank you for your suggestions. I have forwarded them on.
- 152.163.101.9 - Monday, October 23, 2006 at 14:46:25 (UTC)

Sheila K.:
Hi Trix and Jim: You are welcome. Try to be of help when I can. And yes, it's BRRRR here too. I am so sad to see the flowers go already. Sometimes some of them keep going through November and into December, but I guess not this year. I've been spoiled by those warmer than usual winters we've had here in N. IL. for the past few years.
- 12.73.221.186 - Monday, October 23, 2006 at 16:12:46 (UTC)

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- 211.243.169.96 - Wednesday, October 25, 2006 at 07:03:41 (UTC)

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- 211.243.169.96 - Wednesday, October 25, 2006 at 07:06:19 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Test message.

- 71.236.116.249 - Wednesday, October 25, 2006 at 10:19:14 (UTC)

Helmuth:
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- 71.236.116.249 - Wednesday, October 25, 2006 at 10:22:23 (UTC)

Trix:
My latest inquiry: What was a Gottscheer wedding like.
Thank you for sharing your memorie.
- 209.240.245.72 - Thursday, October 26, 2006 at 23:26:18 (UTC)

Jim H:
hello, good evening to all. Anyone visiting tonight? Will be online for a while longer. If you stop in, drop me an email and I will check back in. If not, have a good evening and a good night.
- 152.163.100.203 - Monday, October 30, 2006 at 01:19:48 (UTC)

scott:
hi Jim..how r things in your neck of the woods?

- 206.246.6.34 - Monday, October 30, 2006 at 02:25:42 (UTC)

Jim:
Scott,
cold, windy but otherwise okay. Going through some of the Ellis Island records. So many misspellings. You can find more than three or four on one ship manifest. A good way to find more "cousins".
- 152.163.100.70 - Monday, October 30, 2006 at 02:51:04 (UTC)

Jim:
I am currently looking at some Luschers but not finding the right family. Some links to Chicago and New York.
- 152.163.100.132 - Monday, October 30, 2006 at 02:51:43 (UTC)

scott:
Jim, which Luscher group r u looking for...therre were some 90 that had draft registration for WWI

- 206.246.6.153 - Tuesday, October 31, 2006 at 05:13:25 (UTC)

Gerhard Samide:
Schöne Grüße aus Österreich!
Gerhard
- 62.218.65.35 - Wednesday, November 01, 2006 at 18:33:34 (UTC)

scott:
Gerhard,
Please help me, what language is your message in!
- 206.246.6.104 - Thursday, November 02, 2006 at 01:43:08 (UTC)

scott:
Gerhard,

figured it out..German..

Freundlicher Respekt vom Gottscheers in Amerika!
- 206.246.6.104 - Thursday, November 02, 2006 at 02:36:08 (UTC)

Sophia:
Gerhard Samide - wo, in Östereich. wohnst Du? Ich bin in Kärnten aufgewachsen und kam in 1952 nach Amerika. Ich bin eine Gottscheeron von der Moschnitze Gegend. Und Du?
- 216.251.169.163 - Thursday, November 02, 2006 at 04:00:07 (UTC)

Gerhard:
Hi scott,
this language is german-Austria
- 81.189.41.58 - Thursday, November 02, 2006 at 17:17:34 (UTC)

Gerhard:
Hi sophia,
ich wohne in Amstetten Niederösterreich.
Das ist nahe der Donau und ca. 60 km östlich von Linz
- 81.189.41.58 - Thursday, November 02, 2006 at 17:19:57 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
Hi Gerhard. You are a Gottscheer, correct? From where?
- 209.240.245.108 - Thursday, November 02, 2006 at 19:00:46 (UTC)

Gerhard Samide:
Mein Großvater war aus Schalkendorf in der Gottschee, und kam ca 1880 nach Österreich. Dessen Eltern waren Johann und Maria Samide geb. Hutter.
- 81.189.26.181 - Friday, November 03, 2006 at 17:37:43 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Scott, nice photo. What year would it have been taken? And is it in New York.
- 70.68.187.115 - Saturday, November 04, 2006 at 18:28:41 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope everyone had a nice fall week. Warm here - 60's maybe 70's next week. More like spring than Indian summer. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.67 - Sunday, November 05, 2006 at 01:28:25 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Margaret. Thanks for being so faithful and checking in regularly. I hope life is treating you well. Your temperatures sound wonderful. Stay well or, as you say, Bleib gesund!
- 216.251.169.16 - Sunday, November 05, 2006 at 05:53:49 (UTC)

scott:
Franz, I believe the picture was taken about 1949-1950 in Kansas City, MO.
- 206.246.6.23 - Sunday, November 05, 2006 at 23:12:13 (UTC)

Trix:
Scott, I think it would be wonderful to add the dates and location to the photo. I agree with Franz in Vancouver GREAT PHOTO. Thank you for sharing it.
- 209.240.245.132 - Sunday, November 05, 2006 at 23:33:03 (UTC)

scott:
Thanks Trix..As we continue to do genealogy, we will post more gottschee pics....BTW was just in St.Louis and ran into TamFest...What a different sound!
- 206.246.6.223 - Monday, November 06, 2006 at 00:57:06 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Scott: we look forward to further pics. By the way what is a TamFest? what kind of music is it
- 70.68.187.115 - Monday, November 06, 2006 at 01:22:21 (UTC)

scott:
Tamburitza is the most popular instrument in the folk music of Croatia (especially Slavonia) and Serbia (especially Vojvodina)...basically a mandolin.
- 206.246.6.223 - Monday, November 06, 2006 at 01:33:02 (UTC)