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Helmuth:
Hi everyone, I wanted to point out a very interesting entry that was made earlier today in the Guest Book (link above). Check it out.
- 71.236.116.249 - Monday, November 06, 2006 at 01:59:50 (UTC)

scott:
Helmuth..is therre a way for you to reduce the size of my last picture...it posted at 2.2M

- 206.246.6.223 - Monday, November 06, 2006 at 02:08:51 (UTC)

Trix:
Thank you Helmuth. I did check it out and find it very, very interesting. A couple of errors but that could have happened by accident. I am certainly interested in learning more about the message including possible names of the Gottscheers or other entries they may have in their book.
- 209.240.245.81 - Monday, November 06, 2006 at 05:00:57 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Scott, no problem, I resized it; have a look. Trix, I was glad that Herr (possibly Father?) Obermayr found our site and added the information.
- 170.201.180.136 - Monday, November 06, 2006 at 12:54:38 (UTC)

Trix:
Agree Helmuth. Would be very interes3ting to learn how Father Obermayr found your site. Glad he did. I have already written to him and hope for a reply.
We are having Indian summer. Not the best for deer season but very welcomed by this Gottscheer lady.
- 216.251.169.148 - Monday, November 06, 2006 at 14:38:33 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Hope all Americans on the PZ are voting today! I remember when my parents and grandparents first became citizens, how seriously they took voting. Hope someday we return to that kind of ethic, for everyone.
- 170.201.180.136 - Tuesday, November 07, 2006 at 14:07:13 (UTC)

Trix:
Your message Helmuth reminded me of my parents. Voting was always a very important day. We would go and vote and then my father would take my mother and I for dinner. Those are good, good memories.
- 216.251.169.146 - Tuesday, November 07, 2006 at 23:53:00 (UTC)

scott:
Well, here we are 24 hours after the polls have closed...the American Public has spoken, but what does it really mean?
- 206.246.6.5 - Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 01:13:37 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
For me it means I don't have to listen to all those political ads and phone calls for a while! Good to see some correspondence here. It was quiet for a while. Hello to everybody.
- 70.244.240.192 - Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 03:28:30 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Scott, are the Metz family of KC relatives of yours? I live and grew up here and remember mowing the lawn of an elderly lady named Metz or Meditz for a number of years when I was a teenager. This was in a KC suburb on the Kansas side. She was the nicest lady.
- 70.244.240.192 - Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 03:42:41 (UTC)

scott:
Gregg...My wife's great grandfather was Wenzel Metz...Her Great Grandmother was Sophie Metz, who was a Hiris from Neufriesach!
- 206.246.6.5 - Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 03:57:34 (UTC)

scott:
Gregg, i have been trying to reach you..found your tree and was trying to find: How does the Rankel linage fit into your family?
email me at stretch@olemac.net
- 206.246.6.5 - Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 03:59:55 (UTC)

Marilu:
Gregg
I have connections to a couple of families from KC. Is there any chance you do lookups for others. I am interested in a couple of obits.
- 207.200.116.74 - Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 13:42:22 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Scott, I just sent you an email.
- 70.244.240.192 - Friday, November 10, 2006 at 03:58:41 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Marilu, I'd be happy to assist you with your Kansas City questions. Email me gregglickteig at sbcglobal.net with the info you are looking for and I'll see what I can find. There are some very good sources here that I commonly use.
- 70.244.240.192 - Friday, November 10, 2006 at 04:02:30 (UTC)

Marilu:
Thanks Gregg.
- 207.200.116.71 - Friday, November 10, 2006 at 13:26:01 (UTC)

Jim:
Hello,
Marilu, How are you doing? Have the GHGA marriage records from Tschernembl been of any help to you? I am slowly going through all the marriages. Very, very slowly and linking in names with the main FTM file. I haven't been looking specifically for information on your branches but took a quick look ---- there are some links further back as well as siblings listed. You might want to take a look.

Gregg, how are you doing in the heartland? Ditto, Scott --- are you a Cardinal fan?

Trix, congrats on the election. As usual, I voted straight Republican. Alas and alack, all my votes were for naught. The party went down in flames this year. The conservative Republicans scare me as do the "too far left" Democrats. The middle ground seems to be loosing on both sides. Enough politics --- always a dangerous subject.

Time to get going on a bright Saturday morning.
- 64.12.116.138 - Saturday, November 11, 2006 at 14:10:23 (UTC)

Jim:
One final note-- as you know, working with others on genealogy puzzles is a hobby of mine (as well as a couple of others who visit this site) -- Quite often someone will post a query about finding relatives. I answer the query with an email offering to help, but get no response. Does this happen to anyone else? I don't understand why someone would post a query and then not respond.
- 64.12.116.130 - Saturday, November 11, 2006 at 14:14:10 (UTC)

Scott:
Hey there Jim,

As for a Cardinal fan..big time fan..In fact I was in St Louis last weekend and got to meet So Taguchi (got some stuff sutographed for my 11 year old).

As I have been getting into my family's genealogy, and having received help from you and others, I feel it only natural to return the favor. I too have run into the nor response from my emails, so you are not alone.

As for the electin, since I am an independent, I vote any which way I plz, although I voted 95% republican this year (mostly local stuff)..and 100% of those I voted for got in.
- 206.246.6.226 - Saturday, November 11, 2006 at 15:01:12 (UTC)

Marilu:
Hi Jim and Scott
I too have run into the problem of unanswered emails. Jim, I have the microfilms of Tschernembl for birth and marriage on permanent loan at the LDS library here. I transcribed all of them about 6 years ago, but only for Bistriz where my Peschel family is from and a few entries in connecting villages. Some of them I have in the computer on Excel, and some are still on the forms I made for transcribing. I refer to them a lot. The microfilm I have for one is better than the one that Kate has and I helped fill in some names for the CD. Those films all came in handy when I was working on Sugar Creek, Iowa, night and day. I actually have not been working on my Peshel family lately, I have been working to fill in all the Underberg family since I was in Germany this summer. Martin my cousin in Germany is also working on it from his end. But of course, I never still to one project at a time, and slip in another family whenever I run across some thing.
- 207.200.116.199 - Saturday, November 11, 2006 at 21:39:03 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Greetings to you, Jim. All is well in KC. I was pulling for the Cardinals to win, since my team is really no team at all as of lately. But my favorite to watch has still got to be the Yankees. I'm tied up in the middle of a kitchen remodel at the moment. The outside chores are done til spring.
- 70.129.125.246 - Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 22:04:34 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Most of the time I leave the genealogy questions alone that are posted, unless they pertain to someone I already have info on in my file. Then I might email them, and usually have had decent response when doing so. Jim, Marilu and others here I'm sure do many more responses so there's better odds of getting a dud. You sure would think they'd answer if they took the time to ask in the first place. Gotta run, take care.
- 70.129.125.246 - Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 22:07:34 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Cold and windy in KCMO. Had another cancer death in our family. Wouldl appreciate some prayers for the family. We are happy the person is at peace now. Probably won't leave a message next week, so happy turkey day to all.
- 64.218.109.54 - Monday, November 13, 2006 at 01:40:47 (UTC)

Trix:
Good Evening Margaret. Thank your message. You are in our prayers. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving and no doubt you will be heading north. We will be in Duluth. Take care.
- 216.251.169.170 - Monday, November 13, 2006 at 02:04:30 (UTC)

Scott:
Margaret,
Our prayers are with you in this time of grief. Hope that it will not make Thanksgiving too hard on you and the family.
- 206.246.6.71 - Monday, November 13, 2006 at 02:22:33 (UTC)

Ken Kropf:
Wanted to say hello. Trix, thank you for your connection with Maria Kropf. I've returned from long vacation and will be sending package (ok several pages) that I hope you can put a forwarding message on and send ot Maria. Hello, as well to Greg.
- 71.105.21.254 - Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 02:16:21 (UTC)

Anonymous:
Ken. Welcome home. I hope you had a GREAT vacation. Here is a posting from another Kropf.

(UTC) Frank Kropf Kropf1@verizon.net
I was born in Wettmanstatten,Austria 1946.We came to the United States in 1950.My Parents were from Schalkendorf and Ebenthal.We came to America on "The Atlantic" out of Genoa,Italy.
Glendale, New York USA - Monday, November 06, 2006 at 04:17:58 (UTC)

(See Gottscheer Bulletin Board and click visitors and then most recent posting).
- 209.240.245.164 - Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 03:41:59 (UTC)

Trix:
Sorry but the last posting is mine.
- 209.240.245.164 - Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 03:42:36 (UTC)

Ken Kropf:
Sorry about the repeated messages. Seems like when I log in my previous message is being repeated. I noticed that my name is in the Yóur Name field of message box. Before I CTRL END to get to the bottom of the msgs. Could this be what's causing my previous msg to be duplicated? Thank you Trix for info on Frank Kropf.
- 71.105.21.254 - Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 15:54:18 (UTC)

Sheila K.:
In case all the genealogists who frequent this site aren't aware, Ancestry.com is offering free access to their immigration records through November 30. You may be asked to register but there is no credit card involved.
- 12.73.223.68 - Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 21:18:56 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Ken, simply delete your "favorite" or "bookmark" to this page and bookmark instead:
- 71.236.116.249 - Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 22:00:01 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Ken, simply delete your "favorite" or "bookmark" to this page and bookmark instead:
- 71.236.116.249 - Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 22:01:34 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Ken, just delete your bookmark to this page and instead, bookmark the link above in the orange area that says Plauderzimmer.
- 71.236.116.249 - Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 22:06:27 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Good evening Gottscheer friends,
The Gottscheer Club in Cleveland wish everyone a wonderful Thanksgiving Holiday. We for one are very happy and grateful to be here in the United States; so the Thanksgiving celebration has a special meaning to all of us.

Stay well and we will be talking again.

Regards from all of us.

- 64.12.116.9 - Thursday, November 16, 2006 at 02:38:35 (UTC)

Trix:
The same to you Hilde and the members of the Gottscheer Club in Cleveland. Very nice to hear from you again.
- 216.251.169.156 - Thursday, November 16, 2006 at 02:53:20 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Hello to you as well Ken. I see you are still busy doing family research. I have been off and on, between other projects.
- 70.246.254.87 - Thursday, November 16, 2006 at 23:56:28 (UTC)

Paul Brasino:
Best wishes to everyone for a pleasant Thanksgiving day...
- 68.194.38.26 - Saturday, November 18, 2006 at 05:51:22 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Same to you and yours, Paul, and to all on the PZ2! Great time for us all to be thankful for everything we have.
- 71.236.116.249 - Saturday, November 18, 2006 at 22:15:36 (UTC)

Ridy:
Forget being thankful for just a minute, Helmuth, while I grouse about the fact that the Wolverines just got beaten by the Buckeyes! That is completely unacceptable in this household.
Now you may go back to being thankful. :)
- 65.95.107.94 - Sunday, November 19, 2006 at 00:21:16 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Ridy, I'm with you...I also was rooting for Michigan, a very dicey proposition since my wife's family is all from the Youngstown/Warren OH area. I'm sure I will get an earful this week.
- 71.236.116.249 - Sunday, November 19, 2006 at 06:28:03 (UTC)

Nancy:
It's been awhile since my last visit. I wish everyone a safe and happy Thanksgiving.
- 207.118.200.190 - Sunday, November 19, 2006 at 22:08:02 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Happy Thanksgiving to one and all. Unseasonably warm weather predicted for us in KC next week. Be happy we live in this wonderful country.
- 66.140.92.87 - Sunday, November 19, 2006 at 23:31:11 (UTC)

Eduard Stalzer:
Grüße aus New Hampshire
- 65.175.230.31 - Sunday, November 19, 2006 at 23:35:35 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Hi Eddie, Margaret, Nancy, and all. I posted a message in the Gottscheer Bulletin Board (link above) that you may find interesting. It's a video of the Gottscheer contingency in the Steuben Day Parade in New York. Thanks to John B. Gladitsch who passed it on to me.
- 170.201.180.136 - Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 15:08:08 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Happy Thanksgiving to my Plauderzimmer friends. I look forward to going to my sister's and consuming quite a bit of good home cooking. Nice turkey and a great stuffing. I just have to supply the wine and red cabbage. A very good deal.
- 64.12.116.202 - Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 03:39:33 (UTC)

The Chicago Connection:
Marilu, what is your take on Christo expo in the Arkansa River Canyon? It looks like a big contoversy.
- 68.73.251.110 - Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 19:07:39 (UTC)

The Chicago Connection:
Pardon my misspelling, my glasses suddenly got foggy.
- 68.73.251.110 - Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 19:13:28 (UTC)

The Chicago Connection:
Ooooops, ment to wish a Happy Thanksgiving to ALL.
- 68.73.251.110 - Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 19:19:15 (UTC)

The Chicago Connection:
There goes my spelling again.
- 68.73.251.110 - Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 20:02:42 (UTC)

Marilu:
Hi Chicago Connection
Happy thanksgiving to you too, and everyone else. We will have a house full and then some!

I have been wondering what the rest of the world is hearing about the Christo Over the River Project. There is a lot of controversy about it. I think it will spoil that part of the river canyon, and I don't think that the roads in the area can handle the volumn of traffic. You only have to be on that road on a Sunday afternoon in the summertime to see it cannot handle the traffic. Sure, it would have economic benefit, but is it worth what it would ruin. I mayself, am not in favor it it.

Have you been in our area lately? I hope you would stop to see me if you are in the area.
- 207.200.116.202 - Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 22:10:03 (UTC)

Ridy:
Happy Thanksgiving to you, Chicago Connection, and all the rest of the U. S. Plauderers as well! Hope you have a safe and happy holiday - and feel free to have an extra bite of everything for me. :)
- 64.229.207.54 - Wednesday, November 22, 2006 at 22:42:45 (UTC)

Anonymous:
Happy Thankgiving to everyone. I have an especially good reason to be thankful this year. I had a seizure a year ago an thank goodness my husband was there to call 911....turned out to be a brain tumor and that was caused by a tumor in the lung. Well the Drs got rid of the tumor in the brain with a procedure called x-knife which involves no cutting but a major blast of radiation to the tumor itself and it has worked beautifully. Been thru 2 rounds of chemo and now am on a drug called Tarceva. It is a chemo pill and is keeping everything stable. The tumor in the lung is gradually getting smaller. Soooo like I said I am very thankful this year and so glad to still be around. Hope this finds everyone healthy and happy as you can be!
- 69.30.154.211 - Friday, November 24, 2006 at 02:59:36 (UTC)

Anonymous:
Oh my goodness....I didn't realize that my name would not be on the last email....it is from Beverly! ;)
- 69.30.154.211 - Friday, November 24, 2006 at 03:01:07 (UTC)

Trix:
Beverly, THANK YOU for your wonderful message. You are thankful for much and so am I. God Bless and continued healing.
- 209.240.245.172 - Friday, November 24, 2006 at 03:24:26 (UTC)

Nancy:
Thank you Helmuth. I enjoyed seeing footage of the parade. I hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving. I only put on another pound or two. Beverly...I'm so glad you're having a great outcome. The hospital I work for also has a "Cyber Knife." Patients are having just amazing outcomes. Continued success in your treatment.
- 69.179.26.213 - Sunday, November 26, 2006 at 22:32:35 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all had a blessed Thanksgiving.
And if we put on a pound or two, we can be extra thankful for a country where so much food is available. We welcomed our first Great grandchild on Nov 20th. Tyler David Brainard was 7 lb 7 oz.
Mother and baby doing well. Dad has calmed down. He was with our grand daughter during a C section and was pretty wobbly after. We are truly blessed.
- 66.140.92.25 - Monday, November 27, 2006 at 00:12:18 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Margaret, congratulations on your first great-grandchild! To be honest I was pretty wobbly when my first one was born too, but I attribute that to lack of sleep. I wouldn't have missed it for anything.
- 170.201.180.136 - Tuesday, November 28, 2006 at 14:44:24 (UTC)

Irene:
I need this information by tomorrow morning if possible. I have been on the Internet all afternoon. What brand name flour do you use to make strudel dough? A friend is going to help me pull the dough paper thin. I want the dough to be like philo or filo dough. I know I need a high glutin content. Thank you.
- 72.231.190.244 - Thursday, November 30, 2006 at 21:12:45 (UTC)

Elfriede:
Irene,
When we make strudel for the Gottscheer Country Club, we use Hecker's Unbleached flour. After making the dough and kneading it to a smooth finish, we place it in a plastic bag with just a very little oil and let it sit in a cool room overnight. The next morning it should be Ok to start pulling the dough.

- 205.188.116.6 - Thursday, November 30, 2006 at 21:32:43 (UTC)

Trix:
Hey, Irene, I am proud of you for trying the Strudel. You will do GREAT. I use Robin Hood flour; work the dough into a smooth finish (Like Ellie said), place on a well floured plate, cover it with a fitting bowl and put it in a warmed oven for 1/2 hr; then I proceed to spread it until paper thin. I make many Strudel a year and this is the only way I have ever done it. Let us know how you do ok? YOU WILL DO FINE.
- 209.240.245.141 - Friday, December 01, 2006 at 01:48:55 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Irene, You're making me hungry now. I have fond memories of strudel and povatiza around the holiday season every year growing up. Just had some wonderful povatiza at Thanksgiving dinner but haven't had the strudel yet this year. Please send me an email - I have a question. gregglickteig at sbcglobal.net
- 70.246.254.86 - Friday, December 01, 2006 at 03:41:03 (UTC)

Scott:
Anyone know what is going on with the Gotschee Relief website (www.gottscheenewyork.org? I've been trying to get on for a week and have had no sucess!
- 206.246.6.66 - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 02:05:22 (UTC)

Trix:
Scott, I just tried the website and had no problems.
- 216.251.169.39 - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 03:05:27 (UTC)

Beverly:
Greg, I am thinking you live in the KC Metro area??? Do you or yours make their own Povitica or do you order it? I see that Wolferman"s has it in their catalog for the holiday...have you had it? I am debating on ordering it....my mother-in-law used to buy it but I don't know where in KC she got hers....thought I could trust Wolfermans. Let me know...hope I have the right Greg!
- 69.30.154.211 - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 03:30:24 (UTC)

scott:
Thanks, Trix..I had to go in through the tanslation page to get it to key in..Now it works.
- 206.246.6.66 - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 03:41:45 (UTC)

Bernie:
RE: Wolfermans Povitica (Wolfermans.com)

Hi Beverly,

I was also wondering if I should order the Povitica
for my mother. The picture looks good in the catalog. It may be worth a try.

- 24.116.71.50 - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 13:52:10 (UTC)

Trix:
Good Morning from Waukenabo. Regarding the potica - I recommend that you order a loaf or 2. I have done the same from a bakery in northern MN and they are awesome. Please share after you eat half the loaf and tell us how it was?
BRRRRR here but no snow yet, YIPPEE for me.
- 209.240.245.74 - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 14:28:21 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Hi Beverly,
I must confess I've never eaten Wolferman's povitica even though I've lived her all my life. But I can vouch for and highly recommend a place called the Kobe House her in KC. Their website is www.kobehouse.com This lady was a Croatian and married a Kobe (who I think was either Gottscheer or Austrian anyway). Orders get backed up this time of year, and their website suggest all Christmas delivery orders be submitted by Dec 9. It is probably KC's best povitica.
- 70.128.255.211 - Saturday, December 02, 2006 at 16:51:46 (UTC)

Paul Brasino:
wish you all a nice weekend
- 68.194.38.26 - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 01:48:41 (UTC)

Trix:
Can anyone tell me where I can buy Robin Hood bleached flour? I used to buy it all the time but it is no longer available in my community.
- 209.240.245.138 - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 02:58:11 (UTC)

scott:
Trix,
Here is the information on contacting the company
1-800-268-3232 8am to 7pm EST weekdays.

- 206.246.6.169 - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 03:50:02 (UTC)

Trix:
THANK YOU Scott. I appreciate it.
- 209.240.245.138 - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 04:19:52 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Missouri and Kansas are digging out of a massive snow storm. You probably saw it on national news. It is bitterly cold now. A warming trend expected tomorrow. Only in the 40's. I-70 from KC to St. Louis was a frozen nightmare. ANyway, Missourians are digging out, restoring power, moving on.
- 64.218.109.124 - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 22:05:35 (UTC)

Nancy:
We've been thinking of our neighbors to our south. No snow here yet...just very cold. I hope all are safe and warm.
- 207.118.203.251 - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 22:11:20 (UTC)

Beverly:
I wonder if we contacted all the family bakeries that make and sell Povitica we could find Gottscheer and also among their customers??? Just a thought.
As to snow and ice, Oklahoma is covered...when we got a new snowplow a couple of years ago..it made the front page along with a pic of the fellow that was going to be the driver.
- 69.30.154.211 - Monday, December 04, 2006 at 00:32:22 (UTC)

Trix:
Good Morning to you all. For what it is worth - I really miss our good conversations and sharing in the Plauderzimmer. I guess we are all busy people. I know that for me the time just seems to fly. Maybe, just maybe, one of these days we will get into a good discussion about our Gottscheer heritage and customs. Two topics that I need to learn more about are the traditions of a Gottscheer wedding and Gottscheer funeral. Anyone? THANK YOU for sharing.
Very, very cold at Waukenabo but the sun is trying to peak through. We do have about 1 inch of snow which may stay. We are looking at 35F by Friday.
- 216.251.169.165 - Wednesday, December 06, 2006 at 16:52:22 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Hi, everyone. Hope all is well with you all.
About the bleached flour, my brother worked in a flour mill and said that it is unhealthy to use bleached flour just use the regular white flour Robin Hood. My Mom did just that and her baking turned out great.
About weddings in Gottchee they where an all day
affair with a High Mass for the marriage ceremony
and then to a Gastouse for a lunch then some pictures also. Then they would visit with friends and family and again have a dinner for everyone (if
family could aford it) and celebrated into the evening.
We have quite alot of snow but the temperture was above freezing all day with some sun on an off all
day!
- 24.67.253.204 - Thursday, December 07, 2006 at 03:40:09 (UTC)

Irene:
Thank you all for the strudel advice. The filling was fine but the dough was less than perfect. Dough was O.K. but not like my mother use to make. The friend that helped me was gracious and said that if I could make it like my mother on my first try then sturdel making wouldn't be an art.
- 72.231.190.244 - Friday, December 08, 2006 at 17:18:19 (UTC)

Trix:
Remember the old saying: Practice makes perfect? It is true with the Strudel dough too. Keep doing it. It worked for me. I hope you are doing well. Are you?
- 209.240.245.144 - Friday, December 08, 2006 at 18:09:35 (UTC)

Irene:
Thank you for asking. It seems to be difficult to kil me, either with chemo or cancer. I just go from one chemo to another after the former stops working.
- 72.231.190.244 - Sunday, December 10, 2006 at 16:20:45 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Regina: I was very interested in your description of a Gottschee wedding-esp the dinner. My aunt and Uncle Herman and Anna Lackner manged the Gottscheer Club in Queens. Much of their business was wedding dinners. The custom is probably waning now, but some years back wedding and funeral dinners were the backbone of their business.
- 66.140.92.116 - Monday, December 11, 2006 at 00:46:58 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Re: Strudel in Kansas City, Kansas. There is a bakery called Meema's (??) that makes apple strudel every day and sometimes strawberry. Know the apple kind very well, but never had strawberry. My cousin Mary ANn Rieger Boring has a son who learned strudel making from his grandmother Stephanie Rieger. My aunt, Leni Yonke, now deceased often baked strudel as a holiday treat. She lived in Mahopac, NY.
- 66.140.92.116 - Monday, December 11, 2006 at 00:50:20 (UTC)

Irene:
I've made Kiffel every year since my mother past away. This year it was a disaster. It may be because of my illness and I some how didn't do it properly. Can anyone tell me what is wrong if anything, with the following kiffel recipe.
1/2 lb butter
1 cup sugar
1/2 lb ground walnuts
2 teaspoon baking powder
2 cup flour
2 egg yolks
2 whole eggs
2 teaspoon vanilla or lemon rind.
Sift flour,mix in baking powder sugar, Cut walnuts and butter fine as corn meal. Add beaten eggs and yolks. Mix and knead into on big roll. Chill to harden. Cut walnut size pieces, shape into kiffel. Bake at 325 degrees for 20 minutes.

I didn't bother rolling the kiffel in sugar because they tasted so horrible.

Can anyone help?
- 72.231.190.244 - Wednesday, December 13, 2006 at 19:38:27 (UTC)

Elfriede:
My recipe for Nuss Kipfern is a follows:
1 3/4 sticks butter softened to room temperature
2 1/4 cups flour
1 1/4 cup almonds (or walnuts) chopped very fine
1/2 cup sugar
1 tsp vanilla
small egg

Mix together by hand. Take a teaspoon of dough and roll in hand to form a little log. Place on cookie sheet and bend into crescent shape. Bake at 350 degrees for 10-15 minutes. Sprinkle vanilla sugar on cookies.

Good luck.
- 152.163.100.135 - Wednesday, December 13, 2006 at 22:10:18 (UTC)

Irene:
Thank you Elfriede, I will try your recipe.
- 72.231.190.244 - Wednesday, December 13, 2006 at 23:55:21 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Quick Christmas message to all. Will head to Fargo to spend holiday with younger son and his family. Did I mention that we welcomed our first great grandchild - Tyler Brainard - born 11-20-06. CHristmas blessings on all.
- 66.140.92.55 - Monday, December 18, 2006 at 00:26:27 (UTC)

Anonymous:
congratulations Margarete one more present to put under the tree.And we too wish every one a Merry Christmas . Thank you Ted for your Email Greetings .
- 70.68.187.115 - Monday, December 18, 2006 at 02:34:34 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Sorry that last message was from me.
- 70.68.187.115 - Monday, December 18, 2006 at 02:36:09 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Beverly: Re povitica. Bakery clled Mema's in
wyandotte county - the Legen ds - has streudel every day and probably has povitica for special occasions. You might look them up in the phone directory and call, before you drive to Village
West by the NASCAR speedway.
- 66.140.92.12 - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 02:23:16 (UTC)

scott:
This is from their website!!!

MeMa's Old-Fashioned Bakery
1829 Village West Pkwy Suite 131
Kansas City, Kansas 66111
tel. 913.299.9121 or toll free 1-866-get-mema

After much consideration, we have decided to discontinue our online store and any kind of shipping of our products. Unfortunately, when the product leaves the store for shipping, we have no control over the quality of the delivery. Therefore, all orders may be picked up at our Legend's location to ensure the quality of our product and your purchase.

To place an order, feel free to send it to us via e-mail!

Executive Gift Box
$65.99
Includes: Large Povitica Bread, 9-Pack Cinnamon Rolls, Large Carrot Cake, Large Strudel, 12oz Gourmet Snickerdoodle Coffee, 8 Assorted Cookies, 19oz Apple Butter, and 8oz Vidalia Onion Mustard

- 206.246.6.67 - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 04:51:13 (UTC)

FRIDL:
Wiching You all gottscheer holiday season filleed with warmth and happiness.fr boling club BW QUENS NY
- 70.107.23.177 - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 20:26:46 (UTC)

Paul Brasino:
Holidays coming closer-so let me say it now We wish everyone on the PZ and families a very Merry Christmas -health and happy and all that good stuff..
- 68.194.38.26 - Thursday, December 21, 2006 at 01:38:17 (UTC)

Marilu:
I just thought I would let everyone know that here in Canon City, CO, the banana belt, we have no snow. The mountains around us have snow, and 10 miles east they have a foot of snow, but NONE here in town. Two feet in Castle Rock and Littleton where two of my kids live. Merry Christmas everyone.
- 207.200.116.12 - Thursday, December 21, 2006 at 13:42:55 (UTC)

Gerhard Samide:
Liebe Besucher des Plauderzimmers.
Wünsche Euch Allen ein gesegnetes Weihnachtsfest und für das Neue Jahr viel Glück und Gesundheit.

Liebe Grüße aus Österreich
Gerhard
- 62.218.67.97 - Thursday, December 21, 2006 at 19:02:42 (UTC)

Irene:
Merry Christmas to all.

Elfriede, I followed your recipie and the cookies are delicious.
- 72.231.180.191 - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 23:55:10 (UTC)

william:
helmuth, could pls send me my username/password for pz2 - i cleared my cache and lost all my un/pws. thx.
- 69.204.165.47 - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 03:21:50 (UTC)

william:
helmuth, i found them so no need to dig them out. next question: where do i upload photos?
- 69.204.165.47 - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 03:30:07 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Hi William, just click on the link above that says "Secure Site", give your username and password, then click "Link to the photo upload page".

Let me take this opportunity to wish you and all PZ'ers a happy and holy Christmas.
- 71.236.116.249 - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 12:33:56 (UTC)

Ted Meditz:
Hi deas Helmuth, I have a problem to post pictures,it works not the way I used to do befor!
pleas give me a explanation, Thank you! and Marry Christmas and a happy new year2007.
- 80.128.239.98 - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 14:23:49 (UTC)

scott:
Well..Jenny and I and the boys are in KC for the Xmas holiday...We are giving all of Jenny's family (aunts/uncles/cousins) the second installment of their family history.

This section is almost entirely Gottschee based information, and is some 100 pages+ worth of info and pics..
We want to thank all here that have helped us in our endeavor, which we know will be a everlasting piece of Gottschee history.

May all have a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and may 2007 bring us all good health and happiness.

Scott and Jenny Goldstein
- 65.28.47.120 - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 19:09:51 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
CONGRATULATIONS Scott. What a GREAT gift.
Sophia
- 216.251.169.1 - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 19:15:47 (UTC)

Frank:
Just want to wish all my fellow Gottscheer's a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
- 72.68.170.180 - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 21:11:49 (UTC)

william:
hi everyone, happy holiday season to everyone. i recently located two cousins i didn't know i had. their names are george and dorothy and they are actually my second cousins, our common ancestor is our great grandfather; george and dorothy's moms are first cousins to my mom. george lives 20 mins away from me (what odds!) and dorothy in nyc but i did manage to meet both over the past month. we exchanged family stories, i shared my genealogy with them and they each gave me photos i'd never seen before, some of family members others of places/things connected to my family. i've posted two of the pix: one is a view of morobitz as seen from the road that led to inlauf. the other is a photo of the saege my opa and his brother nessel operated in ploesch. i didn't think any photos of the saege existed so i was very suprised and excited to see it. making it especially interesting for me is that when i was in gottschee in may i visited the site where this structure stood. not a trace of it is left.

so enjoy the two new photos and have a safe and happy holiday season.
- 69.204.165.47 - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 02:51:42 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Hi! May all of you have a wondrous and Merry Christmas, enjoyed in the good company of family and friends, and a Happy and Healthy New Year filled with many blessings!
- 67.101.31.128 - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 05:20:09 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Hello to all. Have a Merry Christmas and really enjoy the family time. Elaine, hope all is well in your part of the country.
- 70.250.200.61 - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 00:22:51 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Can anybody tell me if Gottscheers had "official" family crests, or coat of arms? My historical knowledge about them is rather slim, but I was thinking not all nationalities or peoples of the world have these. Any info would be helpful.
- 70.250.200.61 - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 00:25:44 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Yes Gregg, I have my fathers family coat of arms. After doing the research I had it mounted on a wooden plaque shaped like a shield. Merry Christmas and hope this helps.
- 70.68.187.115 - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 01:36:52 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
To all of our friends in the USA, Canada and all over the world, we here in Cleveland at the EOUV wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year.

Stay well and let's keep in touch

- 152.163.100.14 - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 03:31:38 (UTC)

Beverly:
What does saege zurl mean? Thank you and Merry Christmas! I got a new little Jack Russell Terrier I named Daisey and my Golden Retriever Molly is being very tolerant. ; ) Its like a 3 ring circus here with my daughter's Beagle that thinks its is a princess...
- 69.30.154.211 - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 16:32:52 (UTC)

Trix:
Bev - it means Sawmill Zurl. Zurl is the last name of the family who owned it. Right William?
MERRY CHRISTMAS to you all. It is another sunny, beautiful day, without snow, in Minnesota.
- 209.240.245.171 - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 16:42:39 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Vroahə Bainochtn – Frohe Weihnachten –
Merry Christmas
to all my fellow Gottscheer visitors to the Plauderzimmer. including those who are only a tiny fraction Gottscheerisch or Gottscheers-by-marriage or Gottscheer-wanna-bes.

- 64.229.7.70 - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 20:28:15 (UTC)

william:
yes, trix, you are correct. zurl is the name of my mother's family; her father (my opa) and his brother operated that mill. their other brother, johann, operated a mill in stadt gottschee. part of his mill still stands and operates as a mill today. my opa's mill is gone.
- 69.204.165.47 - Tuesday, December 26, 2006 at 03:33:47 (UTC)

Theresa Miklitsch Kinstrey:
Merry Christmas All!
My father Herman Miklitsch and his brother Emil were born in Slovenia. His Mother was Terezija Senica born 1913 in Malipowitz and his father was Frederich Miklitsch born 1914 in Podpreska. My father's Aunts are Mary Roethel, Ida Zupancic and Amelija Brisk
Ballston Spa, NY USA
- 64.12.116.67 - Tuesday, December 26, 2006 at 16:02:17 (UTC)

Edith Eisenkölbl-Gliebe:
To all Gottscheers a Happy New Year and good health and happiness!

Many greetings from Austria (Kapfenberg)
- 212.183.53.110 - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 09:03:39 (UTC)

Marilu:
Happy New Year to everyone. Well, this snow storm brought us 8 inches of snow in Canon City yesterday. But the temp stayed around 30 and we had no wind. The main streets were all clear today, and even the side streets were not too bad. It came down wet and heavy so we had a white world this morning, everything was covered.
- 207.200.116.5 - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 23:47:02 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Happy New Year 2007 to all! Very mild here in Pittsburgh. Have no doubt though, winter is coming.
- 71.236.116.249 - Saturday, December 30, 2006 at 17:57:31 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Adie & I wish you ALL a very happy and Healthy NEW YEAR-may all your dreams come true.....
- 68.194.38.26 - Saturday, December 30, 2006 at 22:01:12 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Happy and healthy new year to all.
Unseasonably warm here in KCMO. Raining today. Glad it's not snow. Auf wiedersehen
- 66.140.92.45 - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 01:46:43 (UTC)

Paula:
Best wishes for a healthy and happy New Year from Minnesota to all the Gottscheers.

Alles Gute im Neuen Jahr!
- 70.100.80.240 - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 04:37:42 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
A gliklichas , geschündas Neias Juar binsch i olln Götscheabarn in dr gonzn barld. A Happy and Healthy New Year to all Gottscheer on this world. Greetings to Kapfenberg.
- 172.130.24.90 - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 09:07:06 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Prosit Neu Jahr! Happy New Year!

Just discovered I have snowdrops bloomig in the garden! What a strange sight on January 1 in Toronto!
- 64.229.7.70 - Monday, January 01, 2007 at 15:11:53 (UTC)

Nancy:
......and we finally have some snow. Happy New Year to all. All the best in 2007.
- 207.118.200.55 - Monday, January 01, 2007 at 21:36:18 (UTC)

william:
bonne année tout le monde! oops... i forgot this is the gottscheer site... lol! (stilling feeling giddy from all the festivities this weekend).

ich wuensche euch alle ein glueckliches neues jahr! happy new year everyone!

- 69.204.165.47 - Wednesday, January 03, 2007 at 23:55:37 (UTC)

Ridy:
Bonne Année à toi aussi, Guillaume!
- 64.229.6.156 - Thursday, January 04, 2007 at 01:39:11 (UTC)

Marilu:
Life is interesting in Canon City. Yesterday, Thursday, it was about 60 degrees and melted all the snow from last week. Today it is snowing and blowing and we have about 2 inches so far. My daughter in Castle Rock says they have about 6 inches.
- 207.200.116.11 - Friday, January 05, 2007 at 18:46:47 (UTC)

william:
here in upstate ny, where normally this time of year the high would be in the 20s and the low 5-10, it is currently 50 but yday took the prize: my backyard thermometer registered 71 around 2pm. a slice of global warming, anyone?
- 69.204.166.132 - Sunday, January 07, 2007 at 18:14:41 (UTC)

william:
in addition to collecting all those fairy tales, the brothers grimm collected folklegends and sagas from all over the german speaking world during the early part of the 19th century. among the collection (the book i have contains 585) is one titled 'gottschee, no. 147' and is dated 1795. i recently translated it from german (an old form of german at that) into english for my sister's kids; if anyone is interested in reading my translation let me know and i can email it to you. the german version can be found on josef gladitsch's website (www.gottschee.de) by clicking kultur- erzählungen
- 69.204.166.132 - Sunday, January 07, 2007 at 18:26:06 (UTC)

Barb:
My mothers family was from the Kukendorf area and now my husband and I have the opportunity to travel to that area in September of 2007. Any information you can give, places to visit,etc are much appresiated Thank you
- 65.35.209.232 - Sunday, January 07, 2007 at 21:08:55 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello, Barb..... I was born in Kukendorf #1 in 1936, but unfortunately Kukendorf no longer exists and the area is no longer accessible, according to relatives who visited the area a year ago. Kukendorf, Tiefental, and Setsch belonged to the Ebental parish, and those three villages still have some houses in them, some of which are occupied. In fact, the church in Ebental has recently been rebuilt, as has the cemetery, although most gravestones in the cemetery have not been replaced on the original graves. My last visit to the area was in 1963 and some improvements have been made since that time. I will try to upload a photo of the village of Kukendorf on the photo page for you.
- 64.229.32.150 - Sunday, January 07, 2007 at 21:53:48 (UTC)

elfriede:
William: Yes, I would be interested in the translation of Grimm's Fairy Tales (Gottschee No. 147) from 1795. My email address is stonitsel@aol.com. Thanks.
- 152.163.100.204 - Sunday, January 07, 2007 at 22:04:01 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Barb - Sorry - but for the life of me I can't figure out how to post the picture on here, even though I've done it before. If you'd like to see it, please e-mail me at ridy@sympatico.ca and I'll be happy to e-mail it to you. mea culpa!
- 64.229.32.150 - Sunday, January 07, 2007 at 22:10:19 (UTC)

Ridy:
Whew! success at last.....I finally managed to post the photo, Barb.
- 64.229.32.150 - Sunday, January 07, 2007 at 22:47:38 (UTC)

Ridy:
The gremlins have invaded my computer, it seems. I finally did manage to post the photo, Barb, but I don't see my message on here. But if you go to the photo page you will see it. Please bear in mind that not all of the village of Kukendorf is shown on that picture - the other half of the village was over the hill somewhere....
- 64.229.32.150 - Sunday, January 07, 2007 at 23:30:37 (UTC)

Arno:
Ridy.

Do you have a picture of Kukendorf other than th one I am familiar with? If yes, please e-mail it it me.
- 72.244.201.175 - Monday, January 08, 2007 at 01:31:12 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. A quick hello and good-bye. Wonderful weather in KC, considering we could have much worse. Hope all are well. Eddie, Do you still log on? Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.60 - Monday, January 08, 2007 at 01:31:15 (UTC)

william:
elfriede, i sent you the translation.
- 69.204.165.47 - Monday, January 08, 2007 at 03:55:20 (UTC)

Marilu:
William I also would be interested in the translation of the Gottscheer fairy tale. My email address is Marilu1030@aol.com
thank you.
- 207.200.116.14 - Monday, January 08, 2007 at 13:22:32 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
William we are going to keep you busy I would also like a copy of your translation. My email address is agnes@shaw.ca Thank you
- 70.68.187.115 - Monday, January 08, 2007 at 23:03:04 (UTC)

william:
franz and marilu, i sent you both the translation. if you can't open it (it's a word doc) let me know and i'll resend.
- 69.204.165.47 - Tuesday, January 09, 2007 at 02:14:19 (UTC)

william:
for those of you who speak german: how would you translate the word 'seligreich'? selig is blessed, holy and reich is rich but together - blessed rich - they don't make sense. is there some idiomatic meaning?
- 69.204.165.47 - Tuesday, January 09, 2007 at 02:21:45 (UTC)

Beverly:
William I would also like to have the fairy tale. I think it would make a wonderful gift for my grandchildren. beverlyavis@valornet.com
Thank you William
- 69.30.154.211 - Tuesday, January 09, 2007 at 03:16:11 (UTC)

Ridy:
William - it depends on how seligreich is used. Selig also means joyful - totally happy - full of joy.... or abundant blessings....send me the sentence and I'll try to give you the meaning. ridy@sympatico.ca
- 64.229.32.150 - Tuesday, January 09, 2007 at 03:46:41 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Scott - after seeing the picture you posted, I saw an article from the Old Neighborhood column in the Ridgewood Times (now called the Times Newsweekly) about a family with the surname of Hiris. I dont know if this is helpful to you but here is the link:
www.timesnewsweekly.com
It was the 12/28/06 issue

- 67.101.159.193 - Tuesday, January 09, 2007 at 05:01:05 (UTC)

william:
ridy, it's one of the words used to describe the cause of death of my great, great, great grandmother. the exact wording in the death register is: 'in seligreicher erschuetterung' and is dated 1843. seligreich aside, the erschuetterung could imply a seizure; adding seligreich would seem to still imply a seizure but add a religious, subjective description to the event. a catholic priest, after all, wrote the entry and this woman (from what i've gathered from the family books and other registry entries) was not very well thought of by the local clergy.
- 69.204.165.47 - Tuesday, January 09, 2007 at 13:20:35 (UTC)

Ridy:
no, erschuetterung does not imply a seizure – it is a very flowery way of saying that her death was deeply shocking as in ‘to the depth of my soul’ or ‘to the depth of my being’….
Don’t forget, flowery language was all the rage in that era and covered a multitude of sins! She might well have suffered a seizure, either natural or self inflicted, but that’s not how a seizure is described…. A seizure is ‘ein Anfall’

- 64.229.32.150 - Tuesday, January 09, 2007 at 15:56:32 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
William I received your translated fairytale, thank you very much, it is very interesting reading .
- 70.68.187.115 - Tuesday, January 09, 2007 at 21:24:58 (UTC)

william:
ridy, that is very interesting; the definition in my random house german-english dictionary made me think seizure - even my mom and dad thought it could be seizure - but what you say is very valid; in fact, my dad did say something along the lines of what you said (except for the commnet about flowery language). so are you saying that 'in seligreicher erschuetterung' means, to use your words, 'her death was deeply shocking as in ‘to the depth of my soul’ or ‘to the depth of my being’' and doesn't suggest a medical reason? the plot thickens...it seems my ancestors are just chock full of mysterious and suspicious inflictions, associations and affairs. pls send me your email address so i can send along some additional material that may provide further hints at what 'in seligreicher erschuetterung' could possibly imply in this case.
- 69.204.165.47 - Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 00:17:05 (UTC)

Ridy:
William - you can reach me at
ridy@sympatico.ca
and I look forward to hearing from you
- 64.229.32.150 - Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 00:19:52 (UTC)

william:
ridy, i just found your email address in your earlier posting; i'll send you some info. william
- 69.204.165.47 - Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 00:24:44 (UTC)

william:
ridy, just sent you a lengthy email.
- 69.204.165.47 - Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 01:48:31 (UTC)

SCOTT:
Elaine,

Thanks for the link..got it in the email u sent (my email has been down for the past 3 days)..Will have to research this one to see if there is any relation..Thanks again
- 206.246.6.39 - Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 04:54:35 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Could someone answer this question for me - what is the origin or significance of the "Haus" name versus the family name. Does the haus name represent orginal ownership when the house was built while the family name is the name of the last person to own the house?? Thank you.
- 67.101.159.193 - Wednesday, January 10, 2007 at 07:38:14 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Elaine, I'm pretty sure that the haus name is the name of the family that built the house, in other words the original owner/builder. My father grew up in a house in Unter Buchberg built by Loebaisch, so our family was known as "Loebaisch Kump".
- 71.236.116.249 - Thursday, January 11, 2007 at 01:01:24 (UTC)

Elaine:
Thanks, Helmuth.Thought so.I've been on the gottscheerland site and looking up the villages and names - really neat to be able to find this info.
- 67.101.159.193 - Thursday, January 11, 2007 at 02:44:54 (UTC)

william:
beverly: i sent you the translation.
- 69.204.165.47 - Thursday, January 11, 2007 at 05:36:13 (UTC)

Beverly:
Thank you William.
- 69.30.154.211 - Friday, January 12, 2007 at 23:33:24 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. My first message didn't show up???
We are snow/ice bound here in MO. Southern MO is much worse off - power outages all over. KC is lucky. We have power, but the cold is bitter. Pray for an early spring. Auf Widersehen.

- 64.218.109.132 - Sunday, January 14, 2007 at 19:56:41 (UTC)

marilu:
We have gotten about 7-8 inches of snow in the last two days in Canon City. It was 0° Friday night and almost the same last night. No wind so there are no drifts. We have a very white world today, snow on everything.
- 207.200.116.65 - Sunday, January 14, 2007 at 21:27:01 (UTC)

Nancy:
A bit late William but I would very much like to see the fairy tale traslation. My email address is snancy@centurytel.net Hello to everyone. It's been awhile. We're thinking of our neighbors to our south who are getting such awful weather. My sister has found a book which appears to have belonged to my father. The grey cover simply says Gottschee. It appears to have been published in 1962. I believe the author is Herbert Otterstadt. Further in, it says, "Gottschee-Verlorene Heimat deutscher Waldbauern." It contains some beautiful photos and some very good maps. Does this ring a bell with anyone? I am just thrilled to have found it among my dads belongings. I'm very much looking forward to having it translated.
- 207.118.220.188 - Sunday, January 14, 2007 at 23:09:13 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Happy New Year to you all. I haven't been on for awhile. It was a sad xmas for me. My baby boy 1.5 old saint bernard passed away on Nov 6th, 2006. He became really ill fast. There wasn't anything anyone could do for him. We had him cremated and he is with us forever. He is greatly missed.
- 209.91.128.36 - Monday, January 15, 2007 at 02:10:25 (UTC)

Sheila K.:
Nancy - Would you share the name of the publisher of the book if it gives it? Thanks very much.
- 12.73.240.252 - Monday, January 15, 2007 at 13:51:42 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello Shelia K. I'm sorry to say that the book is no longer available. Ridy tells me that some of the photographs may now be available online. Any chance you may know exactly where to look Ridy? Thanks very much for the email. I feel so lucky to have found this gem. Sharon, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss.
- 69.179.51.45 - Monday, January 15, 2007 at 21:55:38 (UTC)

Nancy:
P.S........has anyone looked at the "Stalzer" photos on the photo page?
- 69.179.51.45 - Monday, January 15, 2007 at 21:56:49 (UTC)

Elfriede:
Sheila K. - If you monitor the website www.ABEBOOKS.COM, this used book site occasionally has a copy or copies available. Either type the author's name or type in "Gottschee" in the Keyword. The booksellers are from all over the world and payment is made through ABEBOOKS.
- 205.188.117.12 - Tuesday, January 16, 2007 at 14:57:27 (UTC)

Trix:
Nancy - regarding the Stalzer photos. Yes, I have looked at them and am curious myself. Please give me the name of your father again. I will send copies of the pictures to my Stalzer relatives in the New York area. Lets hope for a connection.

Regarding the book you found by Otterstadt on Gottschee. I have a copy and I think it is one of the best. I LOVE IT.

Question to one and all: Any reason why the above book could not be copied and made available for others? How would one go about it? THANKS.

- 209.240.245.81 - Thursday, January 18, 2007 at 19:04:33 (UTC)

Elfriede:
Trix - Glad you are back and hope you are feeling OK.
Regarding your suggestion of copying the Otterstadt book, I think it may still be under the protection of the copyright laws. I agree it is a great book about Gottschee.
- 64.12.116.72 - Thursday, January 18, 2007 at 21:50:58 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello Trix and glad to see you back on the PZ. My father was Carl Petschauer. He was the son of Ferdinand (Fred) Petschauer and Johanna Tscherne. Jim and Barry have always told me that you and I are connected somehow but I just haven't been able to put it together. I've just loaned my new treasure (the Otterstadt book) to my mother to look at. She doesn't recall ever seeing it before. Ridy tells me that Burkhardt Otterstadt (the son) now owns the images in the book and can be contacted at...Otterstadt@aol.com I understand he's very generous in letting others use the images.
- 69.179.17.10 - Sunday, January 21, 2007 at 00:52:28 (UTC)

Nancy:
Disregard the largest photo of the three. My mother has identified that one as a Spreitzer in 1948.

- 69.179.44.170 - Sunday, January 21, 2007 at 17:02:39 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
My father was Peter Schutte, the son of Peter and Rosalinde Schutte at Bresowitz #3 in Gottschee. He had a brother Geroge, a sister Mary and a sister Mamie. He moved to Ridgewood, L.I. in 1920 to live with his uncle George and aunt Sophie Schutte, then moved to San Francisco, CA and finally moved to Dallas, TX, where he died in January, 1981, at age 80. I have a picture of him with Peter Saletl, Johann Sterbenz, Joseph Maurin and George Schutte (not related), taken in Unterdeutschau or Bresowitz circa 1920. I am searching for any information about Gerti Prelz of Bresowitz #15 circa 1922.
- 64.216.237.177 - Sunday, January 21, 2007 at 20:25:13 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Correction: Peter's brother was George, not 'Geroge'.
- 64.216.237.177 - Sunday, January 21, 2007 at 20:28:29 (UTC)

Nancy:
Welcome David Peter Schutte. Can anyone in our PZ family help David with this? As for the Otterstadt book, perhaps we can contact Burkhardt to see what our options are.... in English or German?
- 69.179.44.170 - Sunday, January 21, 2007 at 21:43:55 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Nancy, thank you for your very prompt reply! I'll watch for further information.
- 64.216.237.177 - Sunday, January 21, 2007 at 22:31:48 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Last week-end it was snow, sleet, and ice. This week-end we are digging out from under 6 inches of snow. Easy to shovel, just a lot of it.
Not really very cold, just inconvenient. Hope everyone is warm and cozy. Auf wiedersehen
- 64.218.109.30 - Monday, January 22, 2007 at 00:42:15 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
David Peter, saw your posting. I have some information on the Schutte family with names and dates from the GHGA marriage records as well as other sources. For your aunts and uncles, I have Maria Josefa, Frieda, Georg, and Emil. I believe some were born in the US while others were born in Bresowitz. Your grandfather is listed as being in the US from 1892-1902 and he married Rosalia Brinskelle in Brooklyn in 1896. Would be happy to share what I have with you. My email address is DocH301454@aol.com.

Nothing yet on Gertrud Prelz/Prelc from #15. I will look further online. Gerti is not listed under Prelz in the 1941 Resettlement records.

Your grandfather was traveling with a Francisca Prelz of Bresowitz on his 1905 ship manifest.
- 64.12.116.195 - Monday, January 22, 2007 at 21:50:57 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Jim:
Gott Sei Dank for your great help with this search and for the hospitality of the Gottscheer Plauderzimmer!
I'll continue immediately via e-mail to you.
Thanks again!
- 64.216.237.177 - Tuesday, January 23, 2007 at 01:13:25 (UTC)

Sheila K.:
I was going to try to get the Otterstadt book via interlibrary loan and it helps to have as much info as possible. Will let you all know if I'm successful. This could take "years"!
- 12.73.237.19 - Tuesday, January 23, 2007 at 14:04:03 (UTC)

Nancy:
Jim....as always, thank you very much for your help. Please let me know from where Rosalia Brinskelle comes from. As you know, my grandmother, Joahnna Tscherne, listed an aunt on her immigration record at Ellis Island (the first time she came.) Her mother was a Brinskelle and I have never found an aunt who immigrated. I know it's a long shot but stranger things have happened! David Peter...you are in expert hands!
- 207.118.215.72 - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 at 22:01:05 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Nancy, I have already benefitted greatly from Jim's expertise and his energetic pursuit of the truth about the past. We are both trying to learn more about Rosalia Brinskelle, working backward from her marriage to Georg Schutte at All Saints' Church in Brooklyn before 1900. I trust that Jim will pass along any information that might link to your aunt, but I will also make a note of your interest in the project. Based upon all that I have learned about Gottscheers this past week, I don't think a link is such a longshot. Nancy, thanks again for the invaluable introduction to the Plauderzimmer!
- 144.162.61.7 - Thursday, January 25, 2007 at 19:42:15 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
David Peter:
Any Schutte's in your family that might have come to Kansas City? There is a Schutte Lumber that has been here for a very long time. Also a number of Schutte's listed in the county marriage license records here in KC. Another long shot, but let me know if I can help from KC.
- 70.252.123.132 - Friday, January 26, 2007 at 01:27:56 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Gregg, could be a link to the KC Schuttes but I don't have much information about the earlier generations other than the direct lines back. Perhaps there is a link in there somewhere. Ditto for the Brinskelles --- no link as of yet.
- 64.12.116.69 - Friday, January 26, 2007 at 01:52:48 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Gregg:
I do not know of a Kansas City connection in my family, but we do come close. My father's uncle George lived in St. Louis toward the end of his life (1950s) with his wife Tante Sofie. He was a glue chemist from the old school (essentially self-trained, I believe.) I have driven past the Schutte Lumber Co. over in Olathe on my many trips from Dallas to Minneapolis, and I still have one of their 'gimme' caps as a prized possession. I would not rule out any connection at this point, and I will certainly post any finding that suggests one. Gregg, thank you for your interest; I will continue to investigate a possible KC connection and I welcome any help!
- 64.216.237.177 - Friday, January 26, 2007 at 02:19:11 (UTC)

Jim H:
Nancy, I believe (pretty certain but not 100%) that Rosalia Brinskelle was from Rodine in the Tschernembl parish. Her parents were from Rossbuchl and Untersteinwand. She married David's grandfather in Brooklyn, went back to Bresowitz, and passed away in Graz after the Second World War. They had children in both Brooklyn and Bresowitz.
- 152.163.101.6 - Monday, January 29, 2007 at 00:45:04 (UTC)

william:
hi all, hope everyone is well. perhaps someone can help me out with something. i once read somewhere that 'illegitimate' (out-of-wedlock) births were recorded in a different baptismal/birth registry from 'legitimate' (in-wedlock) births. in my numerous journeys through the gottschee-region birth registries i've seen both legit/illegit in the same registry so i'm not sure how true this statement is. can anyone provide some info on this? if they were recorded in different registers how does one indentify these registries - ie, where do i find them? i have a feeling the answer will be something like 'it depends on the priest'. fyi, i'm trying to track down the birth of an ancestor who was born out of wedlock; the birth took place around 1866 and the father of the child, as best i can tell, never stepped forward and married the mother thus the child was never 'legitimized '(as the saying in latin goes 'per subsequens matrimonium legitimatus'). thx!
- 69.204.165.47 - Monday, January 29, 2007 at 02:15:33 (UTC)

william:
nancy, just sent you the file. it's a word doc; let me know if you can't open it and i'll resend it in a different format.
- 69.204.165.47 - Monday, January 29, 2007 at 02:19:32 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Hello everyone! It is really humbling to think about how much I have learned about my family in the past week. Sincerest thanks to all involved!
- 64.216.237.177 - Monday, January 29, 2007 at 02:25:27 (UTC)

Marilu:
William
In the Tschernembl Parish records, I have found the illigitimate births registered with the legitimate ones. Several of them, actually.
- 207.200.116.5 - Monday, January 29, 2007 at 02:30:48 (UTC)

william:
thx, marilu. i've seen the same but in regard to the ancestor i mentioned, i find no recording of his birth; he was though born as his current, living descendents can prove. some of the illegit births in my past are recorded (with the legit ones) but others aren't. it's strange and annoying.
- 69.204.165.47 - Monday, January 29, 2007 at 03:06:45 (UTC)

Jim H:
Hello to everyone.

William, have you looked at the family book for the family in question? Perhaps the ancestor is listed in there.

- 152.163.101.13 - Monday, January 29, 2007 at 03:12:39 (UTC)

Jim H:
I have a question about the Resettlement records. I have run across this before but am noticing it again as I go through the new CD. ==== There are instances where the parent name is listed with only the mother. Possibilities include that the children were illegitimate, they were legitimate and the father is dead, or ????? . Does anyone have any ideas? I used to think that they were all illegitimate but am not so sure at this time.
- 152.163.100.134 - Monday, January 29, 2007 at 03:18:56 (UTC)

Marilu:
David, I was also amazed when I discovered my Gottscheer heritage. No one in my mothers generation was aware of it. It was history lost when my Gottscheer great-grandparents died. My grandmother was born in the US, so I don't think she was even aware of it.
- 207.200.116.68 - Monday, January 29, 2007 at 05:14:28 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Marilu, my father's generation seems to have happily 'scattered' when they arrived in this country. They corresponded, but spent none of their time keeping track of their relatives' movements. Understandably, then, I think, I was quite surprised to find other Gottscheers' descendants knowing more about my family's movements than I did. Again, thanks to all for sharing!
- 144.162.61.7 - Monday, January 29, 2007 at 18:31:48 (UTC)

Nancy:
William...thank you for sending the fairytale. It's good to hear from you again. I'll get in touch later in the week. Regarding the illegitimate births...I have always found them among the legitimate births for the two parishes Ive studied (Tschermoschnitz and Stockendorf.) As for the resettlement records, the relatives included were not of illegitimate birth so I haven't had the need to look at that specifically. Did the births take place in another parish perhaps?
- 207.118.212.161 - Monday, January 29, 2007 at 21:58:20 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello Paul!
- 207.118.212.161 - Monday, January 29, 2007 at 21:59:22 (UTC)

Nancy:
Jim...thanks for the checking on the Rosalie Brinskelle relative of David Peter Schutte. I've always thought that "the aunt" mentioned on my grandmother's manifest must have been a Brindkelle as her father (Tscherne) had only brothers. Thanks for looking anyway. David Peter...I hope you'll join us at the GHGA to ensure keeping your new found ancestral knowledge alive for future generations.
- 207.118.212.161 - Monday, January 29, 2007 at 22:24:25 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Nancy:
I will definitely join you at the GHGA! I look forward to learning more about how the GHGA has put together all of this information. The GHGA has been a true blessing to me, an old Gottscheer who strayed.
- 64.216.237.177 - Tuesday, January 30, 2007 at 01:18:09 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
Hi David Peter Schutte. Are you then related to GHGA member Alfred Schutte, who lives in Malverne, NY and whose connections in Gottschee was to Bresowitz #1. His e-mail is charlyo14@hotmail.com
- 209.240.245.90 - Tuesday, January 30, 2007 at 18:23:12 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Hi Trix/Sophia! My hunch is that I am NOT related to Alfred Schutte, but I know of his family. My father lived in Bresowitz #3 in 1920, which was across the street from Bresowitz #1. I believe the resident of my father's generation residing in Bresowitz #1 about 1920 was named Georg Schutte, and this might be one of Alfred's ancestors. I know that that Georg Schutte came to New York at some time, but I don't know much else about him. My father told me once that the other Schutte family living in Bresowitz was unrelated to his. I'll e-mail this comment to Alfred. Thanks, Trix!
- 144.162.61.7 - Tuesday, January 30, 2007 at 19:13:37 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Sorry I missed Sunday night. Our great grandson was baptized and we had a party afterwards. Next Sunday is Super Bowl, so I probably won't log on then either. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.83 - Tuesday, January 30, 2007 at 22:05:29 (UTC)

Nancy:
I would like to ask for everyones thoughts and prayers for my 12 year old cousin Maryah who was just diagnosed with a recurrance of Ewings Sarcoma which is a rare form of bone cancer. She comes from strong Petschauer/Tscherne stock but can use everyones blessings as she battles this yet again. Her options are becoming limited in that she has already had so many radiation and chemo treatments. If you care to follow Maryah's story or leave words of encouragement, feel free to visit caringbridge.org then mn and Maryah under site visit. She's quite a wonderful and wise young lady.
- 69.179.41.152 - Tuesday, January 30, 2007 at 22:14:39 (UTC)

william:
greetings everyone. eureka! that elusive birth entry shed its shroud and the 'missing link' has been closed. interestingly, the entry was in front of me all the time: i had been skipping over it because it was in paragraph-form (it explained who the father was and per subsequens matrimonium etc.) and was written much smaller print, which meant carefully examination, tracing the projection of the microfilm onto paper to see/'write-out' what the letters were... it took about two days of careful looking but then eureka! the lightbuld went off and there it was. another mystery solved.
- 69.204.165.47 - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 at 03:58:54 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Hi Jim,
I didn't realize how many mothers were listed rather than fathers in the resettlement records before putting it into Excel. I have drawn the same conclusion as yours I believe. That is, either they were illegitimate or the father had died. But look at the older men and women in the records; they still list a father even though it's very doubtful the father was still living. It's hard to tell which is the case in each entry without further research from other sources.
- 70.252.123.132 - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 at 04:13:12 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Jim, also a very small amount of the resettlement records do list the fathers full name if the child was illegitimate. Not sure about this either, but I think perhaps the child was later legitimized through marriage and maybe this is why the fathers full name is listed. The child of course took on the mothers surname. I can't confirm if the parents in these cases married each time though without further research. Did I confuse you more? Hope this helps a bit anyway.
- 70.252.123.132 - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 at 04:19:55 (UTC)

Paul Brasino:
Nancy, your cousin will be in ourprayers..God Bless
- 68.194.38.26 - Wednesday, January 31, 2007 at 22:54:56 (UTC)

Tr:
Greetings from Minnesota. It is very, very cold here. At present we have -17F going down to -26F. I don't mind telling you I am ready for spring.

It has been so very quiet in the Plauderzimmer and I really miss our sharing. I hope it picks up soon.

Thanks to Erik Kirsch, President of the Peter Kosler Gottscheer Verein I learned yesterday, that on Sept.16 2007, at 10 a.m.,in the beautiful new church in the village of Rieg, Gottschee a high mass will be held in celebration of 600 years since the first mention of a priest in said village.

Father Joze Milcimovic, the priest currently serving the community, is extending a warm invitation to all Gottscheers to attend the celebration.
He would be specifically honored to co-celebrate the mass with a Gottscheer priest. THAT, in my humble opinion, would be awesome.

So, if any of you are planning a trip to the former Gottschee in September, or you may have a relative who is a priest, keep this in mind and pass the word. I guarantee you would enjoy it very much. Besides, September is a great time to visit Slovenia.

I am recovering nicely from my recent knee replacement surgery and am returning to doing more and more office work. Look forward to chatting with you.

Stay well and stay warm.
- 216.251.169.136 - Sunday, February 04, 2007 at 05:57:48 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Sophia, good to see you back on the PZ and happy to hear that you are progressing well after your knee surgery.
- 70.68.187.115 - Sunday, February 04, 2007 at 18:26:16 (UTC)

Jim H:
Quick hello to everyone.

Alfred Schutte and David Peter Schutte are third cousins per the FTM kinship report.
- 152.163.100.200 - Monday, February 05, 2007 at 04:07:39 (UTC)

Paul Brasino:
Sophia--Also happy about your recovery-a new Knee? I need (very badly) A BRAIN replacement-do you know anyone who can do that for me???
- 68.194.38.26 - Tuesday, February 06, 2007 at 01:20:12 (UTC)

Trix:
Oh, Paul, you are one funny guy. I laughed out loud. My knee is fine. Believe me, you do NOT need a BRAIN replacement. You do just fine the way you are. Stay well and stay warm.
- 209.240.245.68 - Tuesday, February 06, 2007 at 17:30:32 (UTC)

Nancy:
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
- 69.179.71.226 - Wednesday, February 07, 2007 at 21:50:08 (UTC)

Elfriede:
I so agree with you. It has been cold this week. Mornings are very low single digits.
- 205.188.116.73 - Thursday, February 08, 2007 at 00:56:31 (UTC)

diane buchel:
dead of george buchel in the year 2000 june.
- 84.74.251.83 - Thursday, February 08, 2007 at 20:35:04 (UTC)

Lee:
I am looking to find out information on a Franz Wittime who made accordians. Any help would be appreciated. He was circa 1900.
- 76.176.76.57 - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 02:19:45 (UTC)

Trix:
Lee - it would be nice to have further information, i.e. village in Gottschee, birth date, parents names etc.
- 209.240.245.69 - Friday, February 09, 2007 at 18:24:09 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi everyone. Hope you are staying warm wherever you are at. Still very, very cold at Waukenabo.
I am in need of a photo of the run down church in the village of Durnbach, Gottschee. As you probably know it is being renovated and almost completed. I need the old view for a comparin basis. Will appreciate you sending me a copy. THANK YOU.
- 209.240.245.98 - Sunday, February 11, 2007 at 06:02:38 (UTC)

Trix:
I am looking for a volunteer who understands Gottscheabarisch (the dialect) who can listen to stories of Gottschee on a cassette,transcribe them and hopefully translate them into English. I would think this could be excellent materials to share with our Gottscheer community.
If you are interested please write to me at wyants@mlecmn.net.
THANK YOU.
- 209.240.245.101 - Sunday, February 11, 2007 at 17:15:26 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all are well and warm. Big exhibit just opened in KCMO - the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Will be here till early May. Quite an event to be presented in KC. Everyone's excited. Got to 40 degrees today. People wanted to run out in shorts. This winter has been brutal. Auf wiedersehen.

- 64.218.109.36 - Sunday, February 11, 2007 at 21:06:39 (UTC)

Trix:
I found a photo of the church in the former Gottscheer village of Durnbach. THANK YOU.
- 209.240.245.101 - Sunday, February 11, 2007 at 21:30:05 (UTC)

Trix:
Margaret Jonke Murphy: I found a couple of beautiful photos that belong to you but I do not not have your mailing address. Could yo please give it to me?
Thanks
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, February 12, 2007 at 02:08:09 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Happy Birthday Ridy
- 66.225.172.100 - Wednesday, February 14, 2007 at 18:22:24 (UTC)

Irene:
Ridy. Happy Birthday. All the best to you.
- 72.231.187.126 - Wednesday, February 14, 2007 at 20:24:10 (UTC)

Chicago connection:
RIDY, Ollas gueta, longas Labn, uend a guatas Glasle Bian vir Dein Purtzltog.
- 68.73.251.110 - Thursday, February 15, 2007 at 01:39:17 (UTC)

Anonymous:
Oh- Ridy when is your purzel tug do't tell me you are a valentine baby so in that case many happy returns of the day. Chicago conn.It has been a long time sinse I heard that word I wounder how they arrived at that expression.
- 70.68.187.115 - Friday, February 16, 2007 at 14:17:54 (UTC)

Helmuth:
I'll bet 'anonymous' is Franz. Happy birthday Ridy and many, many more. "A guatas Glasle Bian vir Dein Purtzltog", I love it. I can hear Opa Staudacher saying that, emerging from der wein keller with a bottle of his own.
- 71.236.116.249 - Friday, February 16, 2007 at 23:27:52 (UTC)

Paul Brasino-GBM:
How I love these messages......
- 68.194.38.26 - Saturday, February 17, 2007 at 00:51:55 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
I don't know how that got on here without my Id I did not intend it to be anonymous .Helmuth you got it right I know I can'f fool you .Are you watching the chicago Vancouver game?
- 70.68.187.115 - Saturday, February 17, 2007 at 02:44:56 (UTC)

Nancy:
Paul (our very own Gottscheer by marriage or...well you know what else it stands for.) Don't you have a birthday coming up?
- 69.179.4.191 - Saturday, February 17, 2007 at 14:27:52 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. We will have a slight warming trend this next week. Maybe 40 by tomorrow. Bathing suit weather. Has anyone gotten email from Trix?
She hasn't responded to 2 from me and I was concerned. Aur wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.90 - Sunday, February 18, 2007 at 01:18:58 (UTC)

Trix:
I am here Margaret. It has been a very, very busy week. Will talk to you soon. Thanks.
- 216.251.169.161 - Sunday, February 18, 2007 at 02:06:05 (UTC)

william:
riddy! you didn't say it was your birthday! have a great one.

to all: greetings from buried-in-snow upstate ny. between wed 2/14 and fri 2/16 we received almost 36". the pile in front of my house reaches to my windowsill and the pile at the edge of my driveway is probably about eight feet. making a turn while in the car is dangerous as you have to pull almost all the way into the intersection to see past the snow piles and two lane streets are now only one lane. plus, the wind has been so strong it blows the snow into drifts - on sat morning i could barely push my front door open since the wind had blow up a nice big pile - about 18" - right in front of my door. never mind the cold: yday the high was 20* and last night it was 5*. i'm forcing crocuses in a glass dish; they started to bloom this week and when i see them i remind myself spring is only a few weeks away.
- 69.204.165.47 - Sunday, February 18, 2007 at 20:09:51 (UTC)

Trix:
Good Evening everyone. I hope you had a good day. Just checking in, saying hi and want to remind you that the next GHGA tour to Gottschee is scheduled for next May. Just around the corner you know. Hope that many of you are thinking about it and perhaps making it a reality. I know you would LOVE it. Take care.
- 216.251.169.141 - Monday, February 19, 2007 at 02:19:22 (UTC)

scott:
Trix...
Where can i find out more about the trip?
- 206.246.6.217 - Monday, February 19, 2007 at 06:25:31 (UTC)

Paul Brasino:
Hi Nancy--what else does it mean?-Tell us, or we will all be awake thewhole nite trying to figure it out.....Weather is going to warm up here tomorrow-going all the wayy up to 45-Iam looking for my yellow polka dot bikini!!
- 68.194.38.26 - Tuesday, February 20, 2007 at 01:34:43 (UTC)

Elfriede:
Scott, I am the hostess for the GHGA tour to Gottschee and Slovenia and the dates are May 19 through June 2, 2008. We are currently working on the itinerary and travel plans. Please send me an e-mail at stonitsel@aol.com so I can contact you as I have more information. I went in 1999 and it was the trip of a lifetime for me. I hope I can top it in 2008.
- 64.12.116.5 - Tuesday, February 20, 2007 at 02:15:46 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Hi, everyone in PZ! Its good to get back here, I sort of lost all my desktop and tonight I finally found it in my recycle bin (have learned everything on my own on my computer sooooooo----.
Riddy, hope you had a very happy Birthday and of course many many more for you.
Elfriede, since you are the hostess for the GHGA tour to Gottschee and Slovenia. I would like to know if someone in Canada is also working on the tour to go to Slovenia. I had heard at the Treffen
in Vancouver (Richmond) that they might work something out.
Trix, it is great to hear that you are much better on your feet since your knee operation!
Nancy, your cousin Maryah (12) will be in my prayers, that GOD walks with her, and gives her his strength.
Hey, Paul talk about a Brain transplant I think I need a memory transplant to make better use of my computer.
It is 12 midnite now and the temp. is 40F and most of the snow is gone except in the shade. I sure am
looking forward to spring and the Cherry Blossoms on my CHERRY TREE, I just love it, it is so beautifull.

- 24.67.253.204 - Tuesday, February 20, 2007 at 08:46:54 (UTC)

Paul:
Regina-Memory and brain transplant, I think are one and the same----And I hate to say it, but I think i just fwd some e-mails twice to everybody===so Regina if you or anyone on the PZ can find some mad scientist to remedy this---please call and let me know-----Good thing we can joke about this=Thank you God........
- 68.194.38.26 - Tuesday, February 20, 2007 at 21:49:00 (UTC)

Nancy:
Thanks Regina...Maryah began another round of oral chemo and radiation this week. It's good to hear from you. I'll be emailing you Elfriede as my siblings and I are planning of the Gottschee Tour. Paul....don't you remember long ago...2004 I think...when I didn't know what on earth you meant by GBM and told you it also stood for "Gay Black Male?"....as I remeber...you got quite a laugh out of that one. Happy birthday for you coming up?
- 69.179.27.131 - Tuesday, February 20, 2007 at 21:58:45 (UTC)

Elfriede:
Trix, Very Happy Birthday wishes to you and many more happy and healthy birthdays for you.
- 205.188.116.200 - Wednesday, February 21, 2007 at 15:20:23 (UTC)

Elfriede:
Regina, No one in Canada is working with me on planning the GHGA 2008 Gottschee Tour. Please contact me via e-mail if you would like to receive more information about the tour when further information is available.
- 205.188.117.69 - Wednesday, February 21, 2007 at 15:28:35 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello Elfriede...I wasn't able to get through at the email address left here on the PZ...perhaps I copied it incorrectly. My sister, brother, and I are planning on next years Gottschee Tour. Could you restate your email address or contact me at snancy@centurytel.net Trix....is it your birthday again?
- 69.179.65.30 - Wednesday, February 21, 2007 at 21:33:31 (UTC)

Anonymous:
Nancy - Yes it is my birthday again. Its ok - it's just a number.

- 216.251.169.133 - Wednesday, February 21, 2007 at 22:40:28 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Well, it is good to hear Trix is having a BIRTHDAY coming up. A friend of mine said as we mature we need to celabrate our birthdays even more because we dont know how many more we will have to celebrate, soooo-- lets celebrate Trix; Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday to Trix and many, many, more to come!!!!!!!
- 24.67.253.204 - Friday, February 23, 2007 at 09:04:10 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Yes, Elfriede please send me info when it comes available. My email is drgardner@shaw.ca Thanks very Much!
- 24.67.253.204 - Friday, February 23, 2007 at 09:08:21 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
A belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO RIDY and many, many more!!!
- 24.67.253.204 - Friday, February 23, 2007 at 09:12:02 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Paul, its great to joke once in awhile and have a good laugh OL!
- 24.67.253.204 - Friday, February 23, 2007 at 09:13:34 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Good nite all, sweet dreams!
- 24.67.253.204 - Friday, February 23, 2007 at 09:14:30 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Can anyone tell the name of the church in the Platt Avenue area of Cleveland? I am trying to find out information on the marriage of a Rudolf Koenig to an Agnes Eppich. It may have occurred in that parish.
You can email me at DocH301454@aol.com. Thank you.
- 64.12.116.73 - Saturday, February 24, 2007 at 03:19:46 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hello Jim

Nice to hear from you again on the Plauderzimmer. We had several churches here in Cleveland that Gottscheers were members of.

Holy Trinity on Woodland Avenue, which is now closed.
Saint Peters Church on Saint Clair Avenue. There was also a Saint Francis Church on Superior and also Saint Vitas, a Slovenian church. I will look into some records and see what Platt Avenue had. I myself do not think there was a church on that street, perhaps I am wrong. I will investigate and get back to you.

Have a wonderful Sunday

- 152.163.100.204 - Sunday, February 25, 2007 at 07:46:55 (UTC)

Nancy:
We are homebound this weekend due to an ice and snowstorm. Chicken soup sounds pretty good.
- 69.179.29.40 - Sunday, February 25, 2007 at 15:43:02 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hilde, thank you for the reply. From other information, I am betting on Holy Trinity for the Platt Avenue area but I am not sure.

Do you know the status of Helen Petsche? I tried to call her but there was no answer. I am working with a relative from California on Helen's mother's side.

Lightly snowing in NJ. Should be a mucky mesh by the morning but without a large accumulation.

Still going to the Poconos on the weekend. Very quiet and relaxing. We have a computer cable hook up so I am able to surf the sites for "wayward" Gottscheers. Trix keeps an eye out for postings and I help whenever I can.

For those of you who are members, remember to extol the virtues of joining the GHGA. Without that organizations, so many people would be without links to their Gottscheer heritage.
- 205.188.117.70 - Monday, February 26, 2007 at 02:19:32 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Regina, how are you doing in Kamloops? What has the winter been like. We started out unseasonably warm but have had three or so weeks of colder than usual weather.
- 205.188.116.5 - Monday, February 26, 2007 at 02:20:33 (UTC)

Bruce :
Hello from western Pennsylvania. I just found your site this week, and I will probably be able to fill in some information about our side of the extended Gottschee family. My maternal grandfather was a Fitz, his mother was a Deposcheg (many different spellings of this name). I am still putting some recent pieces together. I am glad I found this site, and hope to get to know more Gottscheers!
- 71.50.227.217 - Monday, February 26, 2007 at 03:17:01 (UTC)

Jim:
Bruce ---- Welcome to the plauderzimmer.
- 205.188.116.69 - Monday, February 26, 2007 at 03:56:01 (UTC)

Herb Mausser:
Good morning!

Jim, Holy Trinity Church fronts on Woodland Avenue, and Platt Avenue is immediately behind (north of) it, so I'm sure this is the church you're looking for. As Hilde mentioned, it is regretably now closed. The Gottscheer Heimatchor sang many Masses and recorded several Christmas songs there; I believe it had the best acoustics of any church its size that I've ever been in.
- 141.110.70.54 - Monday, February 26, 2007 at 13:46:31 (UTC)

Ridy:
Good morning, Herbert!
How lovely to see your posting in the PZ after such a long absence! I'm already looking forward to hearing your Heimatchor sing at the Treffen in Kitchener over the Labor Day weekend this year!
Did you change your e-mail address? A couple of my messages to you bounced back last summer. . . .my address is still ridy@sympatico.ca
- 64.229.220.114 - Monday, February 26, 2007 at 14:32:32 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello all. Having just spent the last several hours (and several $$$) to rid my computer of spyware and something called a "Trojan," I thought I'd warn all of you. This seems to have happened when I was un-installing some antivirus program before installing the new version. Seems to have even messed up my family file. It's rough out there...be careful.
- 69.179.0.32 - Tuesday, February 27, 2007 at 21:53:43 (UTC)

Jim:
Herbert, thank you for the information. I tried to locate Holy Trinity on the diocese's online site but only came up with one that was too far away. The fact that the church is closed would explain that.

Nancy, hope your computer woes are behind you. If I can help with any information, let me know.
- 152.163.100.72 - Tuesday, February 27, 2007 at 22:53:47 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hello Jim

I spoke with Helen's niece and also with Elmer Mekker, Elmer took Helen to brunch on many occasions. Helen is in rehab and is doing somewhat better. She was unable to speak at one point. I will get the address of the rehab for you and send it to your e-mail address tomorrow. Thank you for asking and your kindness. Helen has been a great help to many of the Clevelander; and she took many of her hours to find out information for them. We will miss her on Sunday at our first monthly dinner of the year.

I will get back to you tomorrow evening in regards to the address.

Everyone have a good week.

- 64.12.116.72 - Wednesday, February 28, 2007 at 04:15:11 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Jim, there is something I forgot to tell you, perhaps you could check with the Saint John's Catherdral in regards to records of past members of Holy Trinity and marriage and birth records. I know when I needed to get information and records from my old high school for Notre Dame, I was told by the Diocese of where to inquire about these records. Perhaps you could do the same, or I will make a call to Saint-John's Cathedral and ask for you. I will also get back to you on this.

- 64.12.116.5 - Wednesday, February 28, 2007 at 04:17:34 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
I am back again. I had a call from a lady who is very active with the Donauschwaben here in Cleveland. I also spoke with many people at the Home and Gardern show at the beginning of February, since the Stadtverband of Cleveland had a booth and My radio partner and I took our 4 hours to be there and answer questions in regards to the Gottscheer Club and also the Donauschwaben Club. The general public was very interested in both of these clubs. the questions that many asked was in reards to the geneology of their ancestry. I of course told them about Dr. Nick and her group who do research about the Gottscheers. My question is this, does anyone know where the Donauschwaben could go for their research? I told them that the Mormon organization has many records of many countries. But, I was not so sure that I was correct. The Donauschwaben of Cleveland apparently are also interested in getting a Geneology started. If anyone out there knows of a group that would do this, please let me know. My e-mail address is hbrunhilde@aol.com

Thanking you in advance for your help in this matter.

- 205.188.116.67 - Wednesday, February 28, 2007 at 04:28:12 (UTC)

Jim:
Dear Hilde,
Thank you for the information. I hope Helen continues to do better.
- 152.163.100.65 - Wednesday, February 28, 2007 at 11:34:20 (UTC)

Sheila:
Hilde:
The following site gives a pretty good oversight on the Donauschwaben and some of the many research sources available.
www.genealogienetz.de/reg/ESE/dschwaben.html
- 12.73.236.203 - Wednesday, February 28, 2007 at 14:23:13 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hi everyone-Glad to see the PZ so busy-haven't had much time lately-but happy to see the talk goes on..Yes nancy-now I remember--I was served at a restaurant last nite by a GWM-a gay white male-I don't know or care whatever else he may be--but he was very comical and had us in stitches laughing-and yes i do have a birthday coming up, but we will keep it quiet for now!!!!!!!!!!!!Stay well everyone.
- 68.194.38.26 - Wednesday, February 28, 2007 at 18:27:01 (UTC)

Nancy:
shhhhhhhh...mums the word Paul. Thanks for the offer Jim, I'll let you know what I can (or can't) find in the family file when I have some time to look at it more intently. We're getting ready for another blizzard here. Supposed to last until Friday evening....yes Trix....we're as ready as were going to be....you? The difference this time is we have to commute in it. Stay warm.
- 72.160.220.57 - Wednesday, February 28, 2007 at 22:11:31 (UTC)

Nancy:
Sorry.....that should be we're.
- 72.160.220.57 - Wednesday, February 28, 2007 at 22:12:13 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Sheila:

Thank you so much for the web site for the Donauschwaben ancestry. I will pass this information on to the lady who called me in regards to information.

Have a wonderful week

- 205.188.116.70 - Thursday, March 01, 2007 at 03:14:26 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hello Jim

please check your e-mail, I just send off the information for the Cathedral address, phone and e-mail. Hope it will help.

- 205.188.117.12 - Thursday, March 01, 2007 at 03:15:05 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Weather in KC has taken a turn to spring. Not exactly hot yet, but much better than below zero. Been a hard winter all over. Hope all are feeling the touch of spring. Auf widersehen.
- 66.140.92.21 - Monday, March 05, 2007 at 00:58:14 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, Margaret,
I hope the weather stays warmer in KC. We have had a warm spell but it promises to get colder over the next couple of days.
- 64.12.116.76 - Monday, March 05, 2007 at 02:07:07 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hilde,thank you for the information. I have already sent it on to a California "cousin".
- 64.12.116.16 - Monday, March 05, 2007 at 02:07:54 (UTC)

william:
hi all... not sure how that last msg got on there. it's cold here in upstate ny. at the moment it's -1* fahrenheit and the windchill is -10* fahrenheit. and it's march 7th!

a question for the group: were/are the names martin and mathias used interchangeably? i'm looking at birth records from the 1760s-1790s and it seems they are: in one entry i see the father's name as mathias, then a bit later in the taufbuch i find a reference to the same couple with a new child but in this second entry the father is listed as martin. it's perplexing. any clues?
- 69.204.166.132 - Wednesday, March 07, 2007 at 05:28:46 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello and an early entry this evening. Friday marked my one year anniversary of not smoking! I've now made up my mind to lose the 40 pounds (yes...forty!) that I've put on since then. This was also opening weekend for our local community theater production. My husband thinks himself a thespian and he is pretty good in the winter comedy. Beautiful weather here this past weekend. If this keeps up, the snow should be gone in another week. Take care all.
- 207.118.223.230 - Sunday, March 11, 2007 at 21:19:48 (UTC)

Paul B:
Congratulaions Nancy--keep up the good work
- 68.194.38.26 - Monday, March 12, 2007 at 06:13:16 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Nice work Nancy! I too am celebrating this month - 12 years smoke free. But I put on 100 lbs since then. Yikes!! Not sure which way is healthier?
- 70.244.242.64 - Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 01:22:11 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
just wanted to say hello to everyone out there. We had an earthquake in Cleveland at 7:30 p.m. Actually it was outside of Cleveland in Portage County, Kent, Streetsboro, Macedonia, Brecksville, Chagrin Falls and also Twinsburg. It registered 3.6. The noise was just to scary, and the floor actually moved. I thought that a truck hit the house.

As long as everyone is ok. That is important. Our temp will be in the 70's tomorrow, and then winter returns. Oh what fun.

Hope everyone has a good week. Hello from all of us in Cleveland.

- 64.12.116.15 - Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 03:02:12 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. I missed the PZ Sunday night. Sorry. Happy birthday to all who had birthdays and congrats to all the smokers who have quit. KCMO is sunny and 70, but returning to a cold 40 by Thursday.
Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.56 - Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 23:42:34 (UTC)

scott:

Thanks for the weather update...I will be in KC this weekend...Hopefully it will be nice for St. Patty's Day
- 206.246.6.77 - Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 01:28:44 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Helmuth, I could see your smile all the way up here in Canada when you heard your Pittsburg Pirates have a HOME!!! at least for the next few years.
- 70.68.187.115 - Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 15:43:17 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Indeed you are right Frank...we're very glad that's all resolved, especially my son Tom who is a bigger fan than I am, if you can believe that. From my office downtown, I have an excellent view of the existing arena and the new site. I'll send or post some pictures when they break ground. The evening got even better when the Penguins defeated the Sabres.
- 71.236.116.249 - Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 20:35:57 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Helmuth, Congratulations on your Penguins staying in Pittsburgh. As for KC we now have a new arena opening in the fall with absolutely no sports team of any kind occupying it. What a shame. This kind of luck seems to be nothing new for us. Have a great weekend.
- 70.244.242.64 - Friday, March 16, 2007 at 17:21:36 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Scott, Welcome to KC this weekend. If you get a chance check out our revitalizing in downtown...there is so much going on. The new "soon to be unoccupied" Sprint arena is going up fast and is really magnificant to see.
- 70.244.242.64 - Friday, March 16, 2007 at 17:25:40 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Gregg, this is ironic but, the word is the Nashville Predators are looking to relocate, possibly to your new KC arena. That would also be a shame to me since we are fans of Nashville, too (we have a summer farm in TN). Still, I think KC deserves a team and the team in turn deserves a loyal following.
- 71.236.116.249 - Friday, March 16, 2007 at 18:34:13 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Happy St Patrick's Day to all. Hope you find the pot of gold the leprechauns keep. Very cold in KC Spring lasted 2 days. however, better than NY and Boston. Lots of people stuck at our airport. No planes going East. Auf wiedersehen.
Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.23 - Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 14:58:05 (UTC)

CSharp:
I am looking for a Helen Greenastol, last address I have is near San Diego, California, she is the daughter of Bruno and Josefa Greenastol originally from New York City ( Brooklyn ) I believe. Can anyuyone out there help me? Thank You, e-mail me at CSSharpie@aol.com
- 207.200.116.72 - Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 20:45:37 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hello everyone. This message is for any pet owners. Go to www.menufoods.com/recall
There is a massive pet food recall on right now and it is very serious. Your pets life could be affected by it. Email anyone you know to let them know. CNN news has the story on their web site about it if you want anymore information on it.
- 209.91.128.36 - Monday, March 19, 2007 at 00:39:59 (UTC)

Bruce:
Does anyone know if the headstones in the cemetery in Gottschee Parish have been photographed and available online? I am researching my maternal grandfather's ancestry (Franz Fitz, son of Maria Depoushek,who was the daughter of Franz Depavsek (Depoushek) and Mary Zwar). Maria and her Husband-to-be John Fitz emigrated to the US in 1889.
- 76.1.34.86 - Monday, March 19, 2007 at 01:18:51 (UTC)

Frank:
Bruce, I believe most of the headstones were removed and used for the roads and the graveyards destroyed.This happened after WW2.
- 72.68.189.56 - Monday, March 19, 2007 at 16:50:16 (UTC)

Nancy:
Bruce...some Gottscheer cemetery headstones remain as published in "Cemeteries and Tombstones of the Gottscheer Germans." I think the regional museum has a few headstones too. I had a look in my book and see no Fitz tombstones remaining in the county of Gottschee however, the parish records still exsist in both the original books (in the archives) and on microfilm available at the LDS Family Research Library. Hope this helps.
- 69.179.12.152 - Monday, March 19, 2007 at 20:31:25 (UTC)

Nancy:
...sorry...that's the parish of Gottschee...not the county.
- 69.179.12.152 - Monday, March 19, 2007 at 20:32:24 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
hello === genealogists out there --- can anyone tell me how to find the naturalization papers? I have gone on several online sites and still can't figure out who I should contact. Is anyone familiar with this type of sleuthing?
- 64.12.116.208 - Monday, March 19, 2007 at 22:59:39 (UTC)

Marilu:
Jim, the naturalization records that I have found have been on microfilm at the LDS library. I haven't tried to find any thru the court system.
- 205.188.116.199 - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 02:28:22 (UTC)

Trix:
I am a naturalized citizen and I think we came through the Federal Court system in Minnesota.
- 209.240.245.139 - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 04:00:32 (UTC)

Sheila K.:
Jim: It depends on the time frame. Naturalizations prior to 1906 were generally handled in the local (county) court system; ie: contact the Clerk of the Courts in the county where the naturalization most likely took place. After 1906 up until ????, naturalizations still took place in the local courts but copies were filed with the federal govt. At some point the naturalization process was turned over completely to the federal courts. Never having gone the federal govt. route I'm not sure of the procedure. I think the NARA (National Archives) website may have that info. I have always dealt with the local courts, even for records into the 1920s, or checked the LDS catalog to see if anything has been filmed for the particular jurisdiction in which I was interested. As an aside, my grandfather filed his Declaration of Intent in 1883 in Iowa and completed the process some years later in Illiois. Also women were not naturalized separately from their spouses until 1920 when women's suffrage was recognized.
- 12.73.242.198 - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 11:03:04 (UTC)

Sheila K.:
Just to clarify, I think it was in September 1906 that the federal court system assumed jurisdiction for naturalizations even though they still took place in the local courts, and copies of filings should be available in both places up to an indeterminate date.
- 12.73.242.198 - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 11:13:34 (UTC)

Jim H:
thank you for your comments. I called NARA in NY. I had previously located an index for naturalizations in NY using rootsweb.com. The gentleman from NARA said I could simply write the NYC office a request with copies of the information and $10 per request. That sounds simple enough.
- 64.12.116.65 - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 18:32:47 (UTC)

Nancy:
Might you have a national phone number? I find the NARA website very difficult to navigate. The only naturalization record I'm aware of my family having is my great uncle Johann Petschauer born 1874...from Iowa. I've never actually seen this document with my own eyes. I have several alien registrations circa 1918.
- 69.179.42.104 - Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 20:57:13 (UTC)

Anonymous:
Jim,

Some of the naturalization info is on Ancestry.com
Depending on where the naturalization took place (what state), as to what is accessible on Ancestry.
- 206.246.6.112 - Thursday, March 22, 2007 at 02:55:00 (UTC)

Scott:
Jim,

The last message was from me.
Scott
- 206.246.6.112 - Thursday, March 22, 2007 at 02:56:40 (UTC)

Nancy:
Thanks and...the alien registrations were from WWII...not 1918...sorry...don't know what I was thinking.
- 69.179.32.116 - Thursday, March 22, 2007 at 20:37:59 (UTC)

Nancy:
Now I'm really going to confuse someone...the alien registrations are from 1918. I've also recently come accross several sites which have the WWI draft registration records. I've found my grandfathers and several of his brothers....pretty neat as they give a physical (albeit brief) description. I've been reading about some military records now being available from the Austria-Hungary era. I hope to have some success. Have a great weekend everyone.
- 69.179.10.167 - Friday, March 23, 2007 at 20:43:49 (UTC)

Margaret:
Guten Abend. Spring has sprung in KC. Almost 80. More tomorrow. Hope all have a Happy Easter. May not log on for a while. Trix, haven't heard how the translation is going, have you?
- 66.140.92.70 - Sunday, March 25, 2007 at 22:03:02 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Margaret. My goodness it certainly warm up quickly. Our son and family are returning to central Iowa with tornado watch all the way. They left Waukenabo with 40F and arrived at home to 82F. Quite a change.

May you and yours have a Blessed Easter. Nothing on the translation but it will be good reading when it comes.

Take care.
- 209.240.245.75 - Sunday, March 25, 2007 at 23:10:33 (UTC)

Nancy:
Spring sprang here too...we were in the tornado warning last evening but thank goodness it didn't turn into much.
- 69.179.36.142 - Monday, March 26, 2007 at 20:43:37 (UTC)

reiner:
einen schönen sonntag an alle gottscheer.
- 85.182.49.41 - Sunday, April 01, 2007 at 09:52:50 (UTC)

Trix:
Reiner: Und auch an Dich. Bei uns regnet es aber der Sonnenschein kommt bald.
- 216.251.169.166 - Sunday, April 01, 2007 at 14:37:15 (UTC)

Nancy:
Greetings to all. Our local sunday paper (St Paul) ran a story on eastern Europe tourism and included Slovenia and Croatia...still a bargain compared to the rest of Europe even after moving from Tolars to Euros. Feeling rather soggy after several days of cold rain....supposed to get colder with a return (perhaps) of snow! Enjoyed reading both the newsletter and the latest Gottschee Tree...as always.
- 72.160.205.96 - Sunday, April 01, 2007 at 19:58:54 (UTC)

marilu:
Hello everyone. beautiful day here!
- 152.163.100.76 - Sunday, April 01, 2007 at 23:28:57 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Guten Palmensonntag Abend, alle Gottscheer!
We also had a very beautiful day here.
It is great to see spring return!
- 68.94.184.180 - Monday, April 02, 2007 at 01:21:13 (UTC)

Nancy:
Difficult to believe but it's snowing here tonight!
- 69.179.68.225 - Tuesday, April 03, 2007 at 22:30:29 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Winter has arrived again in the northeast. Not quite but almost. Easter should be sunny but cold. At least there isn't any more snow. Are any of the plauderzimmer crew thinking about the 2008 GHGA trip to Gottschee?
- 64.12.116.72 - Saturday, April 07, 2007 at 12:22:09 (UTC)

Trix:
Good question Dr. Jim. You are right on - the time to start thinking and planning is NOW. I guarantee that everyone will have an awesome experience by joining the GHGA tour. I encourage you to do it.
HAPPY EASTER to all.
- 216.251.169.131 - Saturday, April 07, 2007 at 16:51:27 (UTC)

Trix:
While we are taking the time to share our thoughts ith each other here is another question to which I would appreciate some feedback.

The Gottscheers had, and continue to have, a wonderful Easter tradition of preparing special food for this special holiday. I clearly remember watching my mother lovingly preparing the food and istening as she explained the meanings of this proud tradition. I am grateful for her teachings and happy to say that it has continued at our home to this day and our children, extended family members, neighbors and grand children have developed the same longing for this special food just like I have had all my life.

Our Easter food includes ham, sausages, boiled eggs, green onions, fresh horseradish stick, a Pabauitze (baked cake) and the famous Ville or Easter dressing.

I also remember several of the meanings of the above food as it connects the the Last Supper. The eggs represented the rocks that were thrown at Jesus; the green onions the nails that were used on the cross; the horseradish the vile they gave him to drink; the dressing the last supper.

Then on Easter Saturday the food was placed in a basket, covered with a beautiful clothes and taken to church to be blessed. What a site to see the many different baskets of the foot of the altar and what a site to see the mothers, grandmothers and children walking through the fields to their respective homes carrying the baskets.

We could not taste the Easter food until after mass on Sunday morning. It was very, very hard not to be tempted but the Gottscheers were strict in observing fasting until the early mass and the ringing of the church bells which had been silent since Holy Thursday.

Of course, I believed then and still do (at the age of 71) that this special blessed food tasted so much better because it was blessed than any other time of the year.

Can anyone help in identifying other meanings for the Gottscheer Easter food? I would appreciate it and it is WORTH PRESERVING.

HAPPY EASTER and THANK YOU.
- 216.251.169.131 - Saturday, April 07, 2007 at 17:32:49 (UTC)

Paul Brasino:
To all our Gottscheer friends--Adie and I wish you all a very happy Easter.....God Bless you all...
- 68.194.38.26 - Saturday, April 07, 2007 at 23:06:54 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
FROHE OSTERN! HAPPY EASTER!
- 64.229.231.148 - Sunday, April 08, 2007 at 12:53:58 (UTC)

Frank:
Frohe Ostern! To all of you!
- 72.80.107.189 - Sunday, April 08, 2007 at 14:59:40 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Happy Easter. Never knew an Easter when you wore you winter coat to church and gloves, too. Hoping for warmer weather soon. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.98 - Sunday, April 08, 2007 at 16:08:49 (UTC)

Scott:
Jim,

Jenny and I are really anxious about the trip. Having done alot of research on Jenny's family (with lots of thanks to you, Barry and Greg), we are wanting to take the next step and try to take advantage of the trip to Gottschee!
- 206.246.6.193 - Sunday, April 08, 2007 at 17:19:08 (UTC)

Marilu:
Happy Easter, everyone. We had snow flurries when we went to church this morning, but nothing accumulated on the ground. It has been cold and cloudy the last 3 days.
- 152.163.100.139 - Sunday, April 08, 2007 at 18:01:28 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Froehliche Ostern!
Not a chance of snow here, but the low last night of 33 was very unusual for a late Easter in Texas ... brisk!
Enjoy the holiday!

- 68.94.184.180 - Sunday, April 08, 2007 at 21:51:06 (UTC)

Gerhard Samide:
Frohe Ostern ALLEN Besuchern des Plauderzimmers.
Liebe Grüße aus Österreich.
Gerhard
- 81.189.40.241 - Monday, April 09, 2007 at 16:13:25 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Sophia aka Trix: Somewhere I think I recall having seen you refer to the system of House Names in Gottscheer villages. If this recollection is accurate, I would greatly appreciate any insight you might be willing to share about this system (and I suspect many others out there would, as well.) For example, residences of my family members living in different villages seem to have similar, but distinct 'names'. Also, probably because of my very limited German, most of the names seem unintelligible to me (although I can occasionally see some obvious connections to family surnames.) Thank you for any help you might be able to offer!
- 144.162.61.7 - Monday, April 09, 2007 at 18:05:18 (UTC)

Nancy:
Predicted snow tonight!!!!!! During the tour of Gottschee in 2005, Mr Hans Ivan Jaklitsch gave me an old map which had the house "names" and family names of Mitterdorf near Tschermoschnitz...this being from the time of resettlement. I had no idea a system had been in place to give a house a name...very interesting.
- 69.179.45.79 - Tuesday, April 10, 2007 at 20:48:28 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Nancy, I agree with you.
House naming isn't a particularly easy system to understand!
- 68.94.184.92 - Wednesday, April 11, 2007 at 01:39:31 (UTC)

Sheila K.:
I seem to remember reading that the house name refers to the original owner/builder/occupant and may have no relevance to later owners/occupants.

- 12.73.241.193 - Thursday, April 12, 2007 at 13:33:06 (UTC)

Trix:
I agree Sheila. It seems to me that we had quite an exchange about this matter not long ago and I believe that your recollection is what people concluded. Sorry I cannot be of more help on this topic.

Anybody planning to go to Gottschee next year? If you are you need to start planning. I guarantee a GREAT time for all.
- 216.251.169.36 - Thursday, April 12, 2007 at 15:54:38 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello Trix. I'm planning on the Gottschee Tour again next year. My sister and two cousins will be joining me. I would also love to attend the anniversary celebrations in Tschermoschnitz in 2009.
- 69.179.17.31 - Thursday, April 12, 2007 at 20:36:44 (UTC)

Nancy:
Also....any more information on how to get a copy of the new book on the Eastern Gottschee churches?
- 69.179.17.31 - Thursday, April 12, 2007 at 20:38:05 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Regarding house names – Martha Hutter, in her publication “Gottscheerisch an introduction to the language of the Gottschee Germans” attempts to explain house names on Page 25, and comes as close as anything I’ve seen. It generally referred to the original owner, his name, occupation, hobby, or the location of the house, etc., etc. without real rhyme, reason or rule. When I was a child I found it endlessly confusing to hear people in our village referred to by their house names, their surnames, their occupation, their Christian names and their nicknames. Everybody also had at least one nickname, of course. My grandmother told me to call anyone noticeably older than I was either Tante or Onkel, depending on their gender, of course, unless circumstances made it necessary to be very formal, in which case you called them Herr or Frau or whatever. To this day, (I am now 71 years old) I still call certain Gottscheer ladies “Tante” although they are not related to me – but it’s a form of endearment and a harmless habit. Going by our house name in Gottschee, the original occupants of our house must have been foxes!
- 64.229.231.148 - Thursday, April 12, 2007 at 22:21:08 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Ridy and Nancy:
Thank you both very much!
I haven't seen the Martha Hutter book, but I'll watch for it.
The housenames in the Bresowitz/Unterdeutschau area generally seem to end with the sounds 'aisch' or 'einsch'. Do these convey any German meaning to either of you, or could these be simply germanization of some underlying Slavic word or meaning?
Ridy, thank you for your recollection concerning Tante and Onkel -- this explains something I noticed happening in my family that never made much sense to me.
- 68.94.179.2 - Friday, April 13, 2007 at 00:00:25 (UTC)

Ridy:
Those endings 'aisch' and 'einsch' are basically just Gottscheer possessive endings.....as in 'belonging to' e.g., 'Schmidasch' = belonging to Schmid... nothing, as far as I know, to do with any Slavic words. Don't forget that Gottscheerisch is not a language -- it is a Middle High German dialect, and spelling is as you wish. Most definitely not Slavic. There are variations in the different regions of Gottschee because we had distinct dialects within our Gottscheer dialect, and some of us old-timers can still identify where Gottscheers come from just from the way they speak...quite distinct, one from the other, and cause of much merriment at mixed gatherings!
You can get Martha's book from her directly...let me know if you want her e-mail address. contact me at ridy@sympatico.ca
- 64.229.231.148 - Friday, April 13, 2007 at 00:26:52 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Hi Ridy, good to hear from you again. I am really enjoying this conversation. And I'm fascinated too by the varying dialect of Gottscheers themselves. This must have really confused a non Gottscheer German, who if I understand correct had hard enough time as it was to understand a Gottscheer.
- 70.252.120.13 - Friday, April 13, 2007 at 01:13:19 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
My Tramposch and Loschke grandparents had several very large paintings that are now long gone, but I have a question regarding the story behind them. Through relatives I have been told the was a painter/artist who did paintings for the Counts or whoever was in charge of Gottschee (was this the Auerspurgs?) I get confused on who was who but does anyone know of such a painter who perhaps was famous or otherwise did paintings specifically for the "rulers"? These were paintings of the orchards in one of the villages.
- 70.252.120.13 - Friday, April 13, 2007 at 01:18:28 (UTC)

Ridy:
Gregg: Does the name Michael Ruppe ring a bell? He was a well-known Gottscheer painter, though not the only one, and his painting of the City of Gottschee is on the cover of my book. Arnold Rom's mother (my co-author) had some of his works. The Counts von Auersberg, I think, would most certainly have had some of his paintings. Any chance of finding the paintings your grandparents had?
- 64.229.231.148 - Friday, April 13, 2007 at 01:49:35 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
I never heard a name, unfortunately. My grandmother Alvina Loschke had told this story to my cousin. I don't know how she got a hold of them, but the story went that the Auerspurgs had requested for this artist to paint them. Another cousin that wound up with them I believe sold them probably at a pawn shop when she was into some hard times. I don't think she had a clue as to what she had, and likely the pawn shop had even less of a clue. Alvina had the paintings in expensive frames. I think they were probably sold more for the frame value than the paintings themselves. I think there were three of them, very large. At least one was the vineyards. They would have been sold somewhere in Kansas City, KS in the late 80's or very early 90's. I don't think my cousin will talk. Is there a way to find out if Michael Ruppe did any vineyard paintings for the Auerspurgs?
- 70.252.120.13 - Friday, April 13, 2007 at 03:23:30 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Ridy, I do have one or two old pictures taken in my grandparents home that have glimpses of some of these paintings in the background. With technology I may be able to blow them up, and at least get a better view. This is a long shot but I can try if you would like.

- 70.252.120.13 - Friday, April 13, 2007 at 03:37:47 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Thank you Ridy -- your comments on Hausnahmen help!
Gregg, I think there are some Ruppe paintings displayed online -- it should at least be possible to compare Ruppe's style to the style in your family's paintings.
- 144.162.61.7 - Friday, April 13, 2007 at 17:36:10 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Thanks David. I see the painting of the city of Gottschee on Arnold Rom's website, and another Ruppe painting is shown on an online auction house website. Both are strikingly similar in style to those paintings I remember. Wow! Thanks to both David and Ridy on the info. I believe with some confidence I now know who the artist was. Grandpa Tramposch imigrated to KC in 1904 and Grandma Alvina was born in KCMO in 1898, so I'm wondering how old these paintings were. They had to have been brought over from Gottschee, either by grandpa parents in 1904 or by Alvina's parents in the latter 1800's.
- 70.252.120.13 - Saturday, April 14, 2007 at 00:52:32 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend.
Spring has finally returned to KCMO. Several hard freezes have ruined the fruit and berry crops around here. Could be worse, I guess. Hope all have a good week. Trix, what do you hear about the translations?
- 66.140.92.64 - Sunday, April 15, 2007 at 14:00:41 (UTC)

Nancy:
I may be a day late (and a dollar short) but...thanks for explaining the Onkel/Tante "system." When I started researching my fathers family, I couldn't understand why he refered to some older first cousins as Onkel...now I know it was a sign of respect and endearment. How are your new grandbabies?
- 207.118.223.55 - Monday, April 16, 2007 at 20:49:56 (UTC)

Nancy:
If anyone is interested...we're doing a live webcast of a vetibralplasty tonight. It'll be available after 530pm CST at healtheast.org/webcast. This will take place in one of our neuro-radiology suties in surgery at St Joe's.
- 69.179.2.59 - Thursday, April 19, 2007 at 20:37:45 (UTC)

Nancy:
Better yet...just go to healtheast.org and follow the prompts.
- 69.179.2.59 - Thursday, April 19, 2007 at 20:39:47 (UTC)

Ridy :
Readers of the Plauderzimmer may be interested in an opinion piece which appears in tomorrow's edition of the Washington Post written by one of our own. To access it just type in the name of the newspaper and add .com
How Life Goes On
By Tom Mauser
Sunday, April 22, 2007; Page B01
- 64.229.226.44 - Sunday, April 22, 2007 at 00:35:17 (UTC)

Nancy:
Thank you Ridy for sending it to me. I urge all of you to take a look if you haven't already seen it.
- 69.179.66.97 - Sunday, April 22, 2007 at 20:58:42 (UTC)

Marilu:
Just to let you all know, the mountains have lots of snow but so far we only have rain here in town. We got lots of rain this morning, but has been nice this afternoon. We will see what morning brings.
- 205.188.117.10 - Wednesday, April 25, 2007 at 02:23:21 (UTC)

Nancy:
Where are you Marilu? Met a cousin today for the first time at work of all places. I saw him on the surgery schedule so introduced myself after he was carted in the preop area. Pretty neat.
- 69.179.6.95 - Wednesday, April 25, 2007 at 20:57:38 (UTC)

Marilu:
I live in Canon City Colorado. The mountains had a lot of snow yesterday.
- 152.163.100.205 - Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:46:22 (UTC)

Anonymous:
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- 208.100.234.85 - Sunday, April 29, 2007 at 23:50:08 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Summer is here. 88 degrees today. Hot tomorrow, too. We missed spring. Hope all are well and hope everyone has a good week. Happy May.
- 66.140.92.55 - Monday, April 30, 2007 at 00:10:51 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
Greeting from Minnesota. It is a nippy day here. Temp around 50 with a strong north wind. Actually a pretty good day to be indoors and enjoying a nice wood fire.

A short time ago I received an e-mail from a colleague in NY alerting me to e-Bay and particularly a post card that was for sale. It shows a photo of Rann in 1941 with the additional language of Neu Gottschee (new Gottschee). I had never heard that term Neu Gottschee and am assuming it was so called because the Gottscheers resettled to this area in the fall and winter of 1941. I bid on the card and it sold for around $50.00 - pretty steep price for a post card. I will try to post a copy of the post card on the New Plauderzimmer 2.

Has anyone reading this message ever heard of Neu Gottschee? If you have, what is this all about?

Have a GREAT weekend.
- 209.240.245.104 - Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 17:54:12 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Rained in buckets in KCMO today. More rain coming. May have to build an ark. Hope all are enjoying spring weather. Tornados hit Kansas awfully hard this week-end. Wish everyone a good week.
- 66.140.92.92 - Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 19:13:49 (UTC)

Marilu:
We woke up to about 2 inches snow on the ground this morning. A very wet heavy snow, so the branches on the bushes are almost touching the ground. But the sun is shining so it should be melted before long. Higher elebations got a lot more than we did.
- 64.12.117.14 - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 12:52:46 (UTC)

Marilu:
I see I have a typo in the first message. That should be higher elevations! lol
- 205.188.116.195 - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 16:19:39 (UTC)

Jeanne:
Sorry that the photos I posted are so large...my first try at this...what should I do in the future to make them a more viewable size?? I would like to share some pics from the trip in 2005 too!! Thanks!
- 69.111.110.242 - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 16:25:51 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Jeanne, I've resized them. If you can resize the pictures to be approximately 600 pixels on the longest side, that would be idea. If you have a digital camera, the software that comes with it should be able to do this. If not, email to me in advance and I'll resize them for you.
- 71.236.116.249 - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 16:48:26 (UTC)

Helmuth:
"that would be ideal."
- 71.236.116.249 - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 16:48:56 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Happy Mother's Day to all mothers, grandmothers, and great grandmothers. I hope you all have a beautiful day. God bless you.
- 64.218.109.99 - Sunday, May 13, 2007 at 00:28:28 (UTC)

Paul Brasino:
Happy Mothers Day to all the Mommies-enjoy in good health and be happy..
- 68.194.38.26 - Sunday, May 13, 2007 at 04:41:40 (UTC)

Nancy:
Good hearing from you Jeanne..excited to reconnect with you in Chicago next month!!! A beautiful spring weekend here. Anyone attending the picnic on June 3rd?....Paul? Bought the raffle tickets but couldn't get the time off to attend. Happy Mother's Day to all!
- 69.179.38.103 - Sunday, May 13, 2007 at 21:05:55 (UTC)

figazavar:
Shrek3 Far Far Away needs a new king, and unless Shrek can find someone else, he'll be stuck with the figazavar...
- 75.111.170.211 - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 21:19:31 (UTC)

Elfriede:
The Gottscheer Heritage and Genealogy Association will hold its annual meeting on June 22 and 23, 2007 at the Four Points by Sheraton Hotel Chicago O'Hare, 19249 W. Irving Park Road, Schiller Park Illinois 60176

All persons interested in their Gottscheer heritage are invited to attend. The agenda will include speakers on Gottscheer heritage, Gottscheerisch language and songs, and genealogy workshops and activities as well as an evening banquet with entertainment. Registration for the Saturday meeting is $30.00 and the Lunch/Banquet package is $48 per person. The deadline for mail-in registration is June 8.

For more information and the Registration Form, visit our website:
http:\\www.gottschee.org or contact me at stonitsel@aol.com.

I'm looking forward to seeing you in Chicago.

Elfriede Stonitsch
Secretary
Gottscheer Heritage and Genealogy Association

- 152.163.101.18 - Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 00:59:08 (UTC)

John Grill:
Ich komme von Pollandl,Gurkfeld, Kapfenberg, im Jahr 1952 kamm ich nach Calgary Kanada und lebe hier seit dem. Mein halpbruder Josef Petschauer von Plesch war auch hier in Calgary bis zu seinen Tod 04/04/07. Viele Gruesse an alle Gottscheer.
- 68.145.251.160 - Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 15:51:19 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Grüβ Gott, Herr John Grill…
Hier finden Sie noch einige Gottscheer welche auch noch aus der alten Heimat stammen. Ich wusste gar nicht das es in Calgary auch Gottscheer gibt! Unsere Familie ist in 1948 nach Kitchener ausgewandert und ich wohne nun schon viele Jahre in Toronto. Vieleicht können sie auch zum Gottscheer Treffen in Kitchener kommen! Es findet am Labour Day weekend statt. Liebe Grüβe.

- 64.229.205.125 - Thursday, May 17, 2007 at 23:55:53 (UTC)

Sophia:
Liebe Gottscheer Grüße aus Minnesota John Grill. Ich war in der Nähe von Tschermoschnitz im Jahre 1936 geboren; sind umgesiedelt nach Deckmansdorf bei Königsberg, Untersteiermark und lebten dort bis 8 May 1945. Dann ging es mit der Flucht nach Steiermark weiter. Nach 6 Wochen kamen wir in Graz an. Wir verbrachten die meiste Zeit im Lager Feffernitz in Kärnten und kamen im April 1952 durch Bremerhafen nach Minnesota.

Sind Sie vielleicht mit August Gril von Pöllandl verwandt? Ich weiß er hatte Verwandte in Kanada. Er ist ein guter Freund.

Würde mich sehr freuen auf ein Schreiben. Und so wie Ridy schreibt bitte versuchen sie beim Gottscheer Treffen in Kitchener teil zu nehmen. Es ist ein wunderbares Fest.
- 216.251.169.45 - Friday, May 18, 2007 at 00:32:58 (UTC)

Nancy:
What? Does Mr Grill have a half-brother..Josef Petschauer?
- 207.118.220.3 - Saturday, May 19, 2007 at 22:33:15 (UTC)

Trix:
That is what he is saying Nancy. That Josef came from Plesch by Tschermoschnitz.
BRRRR at Waukenabo. Mowed and got really chilled. Have a nice wood fire going.
- 209.240.245.142 - Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 00:32:10 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Wonderful spring weather in KCMO. Time for graduations. We have had 2 in the family and 1 to go. Have a wonderful week. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.68 - Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 01:08:08 (UTC)

Nancy:
BRRRRR is right Trix...we've turned the heat back on for a few hours.
- 69.179.31.216 - Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 16:57:01 (UTC)

Nancy:
I've also uploaded what appears to be an old railroad document found while shopping for some vintage postcards recently. Not clear on the entire thing but it appears to be stamped with Laibach which is Ljubljana...yes? I think the date is March 30, 1942? Can anyone help me with the rest of it?
- 69.179.31.216 - Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 17:08:03 (UTC)

Tanja Sajovitz Reilly:
As güate zn 45. Hoachtsaitstoch, Alfred ünd Margret Sajovitz!!!!
Binschn eure Tochtr, Tanja
- 75.89.51.66 - Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 22:35:33 (UTC)

Tanja Sajovitz Reilly:
As güate zn 45. Hoachtsaitstoch, Alfred ünd Margret Sajovitz!!!!
Binschn eure Tochtr, Tanja
- 75.89.51.66 - Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 22:53:30 (UTC)

Trix:
Tanja way to go. Nice job. I add my congratulations.
Nancy: Where is the post card?
- 216.251.169.136 - Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 23:48:13 (UTC)

Tanja Sajovitz Reilly:
As güate zn 45. Hoachtsaitstoch, Alfred ünd Margret Sajovitz!!!!
Binschn eure Tochtr, Tanja
- 75.89.51.66 - Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 23:50:41 (UTC)

Helmuth:
While we're at it, I would like to wish my Onkel John and Tante Pauli (Kump) Schlindrer a very happy 50th anniversary.
- 71.236.116.249 - Monday, May 21, 2007 at 00:01:54 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
I must admit I really miss the Sunday night sharing in the Plauderzimmer. Hope we can do it again. THANK YOU FOR THE MEMORIES.
- 216.251.169.136 - Monday, May 21, 2007 at 03:46:55 (UTC)

Nancy:
A very happy golden wedding anniversary to your Onkel John and Tante Pauli!
- 69.179.70.79 - Monday, May 21, 2007 at 16:19:29 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:

Dear Friends. Remember when I told you that I was bidding on a post card being sold on e-Bay Deutschland. The post card read Rann, Untersteiermark a.d. Save - (Neu Gottschee). I was the lucky bidder and it arrived today from the seller in Germany. She purchased it in a lot of postcards but knew nothing about Gottschee.

The post card is in excellent condition and never used. On the back of the postcard appears the following:

Fotograf (photographer) Josef Eppich Wien 15 Dreihausgasse 36
and the following number 10/1182

Now, of course, I am curious as to the photographer and whether or not he may be a Gottscheer.

Can anyone shed any light on this very interesting find? Would appreciate it.

Sophia

- 209.240.245.181 - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 02:13:33 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Trix, the number sequence 10/1182 is the same style sequence used in part of the resettlement records. There is an explanation of what these numbers mean in a Word file that accompanies the database version of the resettlement records published by GHGA. Not sure if this number could be from another resettlement list from somewhere else in Europe during the same time period, but that number specifically is not in the resettlement records of Gottschee. I don't know the language, but is Dreihausgasse a physical place or is it like a tavern or business name?
- 70.246.78.194 - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 04:02:52 (UTC)

Sheila K.:
I think 10/1182 is the postal code. Dreihausgasse 36 is located in the Waehring district of Vienna and the last four digits (1182) match that location. As for the "10" I'm thinking that was probably the "municipal district" number at that time. Waehring is now in municipal district 18.
- 12.73.242.222 - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 13:10:21 (UTC)

Sheila K.:
Upon searching further, my conclusions about the number "10" appear to be wrong. Don't have a clue.
- 12.73.242.222 - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 13:30:57 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Sheila, your explanation makes much more sense than what I was seeing.
- 70.246.78.194 - Saturday, May 26, 2007 at 18:05:45 (UTC)

Ridy:
Looks an awful lot like a catalogue number to me..... definitely not a postal code - and no relation to the resettlement records, I would think.
- 65.95.105.127 - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 12:24:50 (UTC)

Nancy:
Wein being Vienna, I don't think the numbers have much to do with the resettlement records either. I have a cousin who currently lives in Vienna and will ask her what she thinks. Speaking of the resettlement records, I have the book and...can anyone explain the three sets of numbers to me? I would be most grateful.
- 207.118.216.127 - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 23:37:46 (UTC)

Nancy:
Also...can anyone please tell me what parish Tanzbuchel was in? Is it possible to find out where persons in the resettlement were resettled to? I'd like to track Maria Spreitzer-Felacher, my grandmother's niece.
- 69.179.53.98 - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 21:16:16 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Nancy, I believe Tanzbuchel was in Nesseltal Parish. I can send you information regarding the sets of numbers in the resettlement records. Do you have an email address?
- 70.246.78.194 - Tuesday, May 29, 2007 at 03:53:36 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello Gregg. It is snancy@centurytel.net Just checking in from work....rather crazy day.
- 63.224.12.18 - Tuesday, May 29, 2007 at 16:24:45 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Nancy, just sent you an email.
- 70.246.78.194 - Wednesday, May 30, 2007 at 00:12:52 (UTC)

Nancy:
Got it Gregg and thank you. I'll take a good look at it this weekend. I've posted a photo (on the photo page) which I also submitted to the St Paul Pioneer Press newspaper's travel section. The section highlights travel recommended by readers. It'll be in the June 10th edition.
- 69.179.4.177 - Wednesday, May 30, 2007 at 20:38:38 (UTC)

Helmuth (posted for Elfriede):
John Gladitsch of Middle Village sent me an e-mail giving me the link for a YouTube video of his aunt, Anna Tschinkel Loser, giving instructions on how to make Ausgehzogenehknoelein (?) in Gottscheerish. John had videoed and submitted the video to YouTube.

You can watch it at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-igwUvYW00k
- 71.236.116.249 - Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 09:57:00 (UTC)

Sheila K.:
Nancy: What a fantastic picture!
- 12.73.238.61 - Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 13:13:00 (UTC)

Nancy:
Helmuth-I too got an email with the video link...how wonderful! I'm glad you enjoyed the photo Sheila. I don't think anyone could take a bad photo in such an enchanted place.
- 69.179.4.21 - Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 20:40:01 (UTC)