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Nancy:
Took some advice and called a Gottscheer in New York whom I've never met. Turns out he attended todays picnic and is planning on attending the Treffen over Labor Day...now I just have to go! Have a great weekend.
- 69.179.40.251 - Sunday, June 03, 2007 at 21:10:21 (UTC)

Nancy:
I should have stated that the Gottscheer is a cousin.
- 69.179.40.251 - Sunday, June 03, 2007 at 21:10:54 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Missed last week. Attended grandson's high school graduation in Fargo. Lovely in KCMO. Lots of rain last week. Drying out. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.11 - Sunday, June 03, 2007 at 21:52:44 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Missed last week. Attended grandson's high school graduation in Fargo. Lovely in KCMO. Lots of rain last week. Drying out. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.102 - Sunday, June 03, 2007 at 23:54:26 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Missed last week. Attended grandson's high school graduation in Fargo. Lovely in KCMO. Lots of rain last week. Drying out. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.102 - Sunday, June 03, 2007 at 23:54:40 (UTC)

Trix:
Greetings to you all. I received an inquiry that said: How to you learn to play the Mund Harmonika? Any ideas from anyone?

Thank you.
- 216.251.169.131 - Friday, June 08, 2007 at 00:13:30 (UTC)

Nancy:
That would be a no from me Trix. Are you still interested in wedding and funeral customs? I'm interested also. The only thing I have to contribute is...my great aunt, Maria Tscherne, died in Lachina in (1917 or 18) in her 40s from an accident according to the parish death record and family book record. Barry was nice enough to translate for me and it seems that the services were held in the evening to allow for her neighbors to finish their work in the fields before attending the funeral......very practical.
- 207.118.215.23 - Friday, June 08, 2007 at 21:55:32 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten ABend. Hello from soggy KCMO. Terrible storms for several days and more coming. Flash flooding, etc. Our yard is like a swamp. Hoping for a coupld of dry days so my garden isn't washed away. Hope all are well. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.17 - Monday, June 11, 2007 at 01:22:09 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Interested in the funeral customs mentioned last week. Gottscheers were big on funeral dinners. My aunt and uncle Herman and Anna Lackner who managed the Gottshceer Club in Brookly, or Queens, had a lot of business with funeral dinners. Weddings too.
Our family still does the dinner thing - neighbors bringing food etc.
- 64.218.109.17 - Monday, June 11, 2007 at 01:24:34 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
Does anyone know the German name for the following villages in Slovenia:

Zacret by Cilli (Celje)
Camp Teharje
Slovenske Konjice
Novo Tepenje
Mirnikov Woods
Bistrica at Sotla
Dekmanca is Deckmansdorf
Slovenjgradec
Zancani
Cemsenik Hiill and
Marija Reka

Thank you.
- 216.251.169.174 - Tuesday, June 12, 2007 at 01:17:26 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Trix,
Here are the one's I have. Not 100% sure but believe these are right based on previous internet research and other sources:

Teharje = Tuchern

Slovenske Konjice = Windisch-Gonobitz or maybe just Gonobitz

Bistrica at Sotla = Königberg am Sattelbach per notes I have from Helmut Tramposch or Sankt Peter bei K. according to information I previously obtained from the internet

Dekmanca = Deckmannsdorf

Slovenj Gradec = Windischgraz or Windischgrätz

Čemšenik = Tschemschenigghof

- 70.246.78.194 - Thursday, June 14, 2007 at 03:13:25 (UTC)

Trix:
THANK YOU Gregg. I think you are right on. Appreciate your efforts.
- 216.251.169.141 - Thursday, June 14, 2007 at 03:26:15 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Happy Father's Day to all dads, grand dads, great grand dads. We are celebrating with our first great grandson, Tyler. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.91 - Sunday, June 17, 2007 at 17:34:15 (UTC)

Trix:
Thanks Margaret. I echo your good wishes to the male members of our families. Our daughter Amy picked up my honey at the nursing and we will be enjoying a good Gottscheer meal on the patio. All you fathers etc. enjoy your day and stay well.
- 209.240.245.161 - Sunday, June 17, 2007 at 19:57:33 (UTC)

Nancy:
Happy Father's Day to all of you dads out there. Very hot here this past week. Hoping it won't follow us to Chicago next weekend.
- 69.179.21.20 - Sunday, June 17, 2007 at 21:03:48 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. VERY hot and humid in KC. That is typical summer weather. Might not log on every Sunday night. Vacation plans, etc. Aud wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.2 - Monday, June 25, 2007 at 00:22:08 (UTC)

Scott:
We will be heading up there for a quick weekend on the 29th...then back home..then hop on a plane to DC for the fourth...Hope its not too hot in either place!!
- 206.246.6.6 - Monday, June 25, 2007 at 04:23:03 (UTC)

Michael:
short reply to an older message:
"Fotograf (photographer) Josef Eppich Wien 15 Dreihausgasse 36
and the following number 10/1182"
"Dreihausgasse" is a street name;
"Wien 15" is in Vienna common for 1150 Wien (the 15. district in Vienna -Rudolfsheim-Fuenfhaus- 1150 is the ZIP-Code) - ZIP Codes in Vienna always start with "1", followed by the district number (from 01 to 23) , the forth number matches the location of the Post Office.
10/1182 could be an internal code for the publisher.

- 195.3.113.169 - Thursday, June 28, 2007 at 22:31:20 (UTC)

Trix:
Michael - THANK YOU VERY MUCH for this information. I
appreciate it.
- 216.251.169.25 - Friday, June 29, 2007 at 03:29:15 (UTC)

Michael:
Trix - "Slovenske Konjice" the former German Name was "Gonobitz"
- 195.3.113.179 - Friday, June 29, 2007 at 08:18:00 (UTC)

Tom Polyak:
At age 63, I just learned that I am of Gottscheer Lineage...My grandfather ( Josef Kump born 1889) migrated from Tschermoschnitz to the US where he eventually settled in Joliet, IL. I feel that I have uncovered my Roots!!!!!
- 67.36.46.170 - Friday, June 29, 2007 at 19:47:10 (UTC)

Nancy:
Welcome Tom. We hope to see you here on the PZ again.
- 69.179.54.24 - Friday, June 29, 2007 at 20:23:44 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
Welcome Tom. Yes, I believe you have uncovered your Gottscheer roots
- 209.240.245.143 - Saturday, June 30, 2007 at 03:10:01 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
Welcome Tom. Yes, I believe you have uncovered your Gottscheer roots. CONGRATULATIONS and happy journey.
I was born near Tschermoschnitz in 1936 and migrated to Minnesota, along with my parents after the war in 1952. I am very interested in learning more out you and your family. Any further information on Josef Kump - like village, parents name etc. Feel free to write to me at wyants@mlecmn.net.
- 209.240.245.143 - Saturday, June 30, 2007 at 03:13:18 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello all. Can anyone tell me when the houses were renumbered in Mitterdorf near Tschermoschnitz? I am curious as during the 2005 trip, #10 (my grandfathers) looked relatively new... (I saw a date of 1940ish on the chimney) while houses around it appeared more of the period. My grandfather left #10 around the turn of the 20th century.
- 207.118.200.201 - Sunday, July 01, 2007 at 20:03:03 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello again Tom Polyak. The GHGA just had our annual meeting in Chicago. Your family settled in Joliet? Are you still in the area? We would have loved to meet you.
- 207.118.200.201 - Sunday, July 01, 2007 at 20:05:34 (UTC)

Nancy:
I'll put this up for discussion too. My great aunt, Veronika Tscherne, left Lachina in 1918 or 1919 and settled in Unterholz #3, Holshausen, Wels, Austria. I'm most interested in researching her family further. Anyone know if the LDS Family History Centers have records from this area? OR...an address or website to contact? Appreciate the help.
- 207.118.200.201 - Sunday, July 01, 2007 at 20:30:35 (UTC)

Marilu:
Nancy, if you go to familysearch.org and type in the town name under place search, it should bring up any films for the town.
- 207.200.116.8 - Sunday, July 01, 2007 at 20:50:56 (UTC)

Nancy:
Thank you Marilu. No hits when I searched Unterholz but did have luck with Holzhausen. I believe that some church (Kirche?) and court records are included from 1819 to 0940 so I'm saying a prayer that I'll find something. Thanks again.
- 207.118.200.201 - Sunday, July 01, 2007 at 22:50:53 (UTC)

Nancy:
Oooops...it should be 1940.
- 207.118.200.201 - Sunday, July 01, 2007 at 22:51:40 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Parts of Missouri and Kansas are floating, flooded, being evacuated. Our house and neighborhood are fine. Finally stopped raining this morning. More rain coming 4th of July. Damage
is awful. Might have to build an ark. Auf wiedersehen.
- 64.218.109.67 - Monday, July 02, 2007 at 01:08:49 (UTC)

Marilu:
Nancy
Also try the parish name. That is how the films are listed for Bistriz where my family is from. Kirche is church. You might find more with the parish name.
- 207.200.116.13 - Monday, July 02, 2007 at 13:08:58 (UTC)

Nancy:
I'm afraid I don't know a parish name...just the village (Unterholz) in or near Holzhausen.
- 207.118.200.201 - Monday, July 02, 2007 at 20:36:04 (UTC)

Frank:
Austria has issued a Gottschee Stamp.One of my family members received a postcard from Austria and it's on the card.
- 72.68.160.198 - Tuesday, July 03, 2007 at 02:00:18 (UTC)

Nancy:
Could you possbibly scan and share this new stamp on the photos page on the PZ? That would be oh so neat!
- 72.160.206.168 - Tuesday, July 03, 2007 at 19:40:08 (UTC)

Tom Polyak:
If anyone has any information on or photo's of Plesch in Tschermoschnitz I would be very interested in seeing them. My grandfather's home was #7...He was born in 1889...I am not sure when he migrated but I am in the process of finding out. Any information would be appreciated thomaspolyak@sbcglobal.net
- 67.36.46.170 - Tuesday, July 03, 2007 at 21:07:19 (UTC)

Paul Rohrbeck:
I am trying to locate my family roots.I have traced my grandfather Rohrbeck to Masern Austria. He married a Parthe. Any help would be appreciated my email is prohrbeck@alltel.net
- 75.88.124.184 - Wednesday, July 04, 2007 at 02:27:55 (UTC)

Nancy:
Welcome to both of you. There are several people who can help with your search. I'll forward both of your email addresses to them. Tom...I had a quick look at the Ellis Island site and found a Josef Kump, born in 1889, who arrived on Oct 3, 1907, traveling to Illinois. There were a dozen other Josef Kumps as well so further information is needed. Do you know the name of Josef's parents?
- 69.179.71.81 - Wednesday, July 04, 2007 at 14:59:01 (UTC)

Trix:
Gottscheer Austrian postage stamp can be seen on the photo page. ENJOY.
- 209.240.245.180 - Wednesday, July 04, 2007 at 16:30:33 (UTC)

Tom Polyak:
Nancy: If I have it correct...Josef Kump's parents were Johann Kump and Maria (Josefa) Brinskelle Kump
- 71.155.239.172 - Wednesday, July 04, 2007 at 16:53:53 (UTC)

Trix:
Tom, Maria Josefa Brinskelle came from which village in the Moschnitze area of Gottschee?
- 209.240.245.177 - Wednesday, July 04, 2007 at 18:13:54 (UTC)

Anonymous:
Trix: I believe that she came from Plosch #9 Tschermoschnitz

Tom
- 71.155.239.172 - Wednesday, July 04, 2007 at 18:59:57 (UTC)

Anonymous:
Trix: I believe that she came from Plosch #9 Tschermoschnitz

Tom
- 71.155.239.172 - Wednesday, July 04, 2007 at 19:51:17 (UTC)

Nancy:
Tom...I've found Josef's parents in the marriage records for Tschermoschnitz. Johann Kump of Plesch #7 married Maria Brinskelle of Plesch #9 on the 10th of August 1885. It list Maria's parents as Franz Brinskelle and Ursula Moschner. More in next window.
- 69.179.64.40 - Wednesday, July 04, 2007 at 21:25:07 (UTC)

Nancy:
I don't know why, perhaps Johann was raised by someone other than his birth parents but it list his parents as Michael Schmuck and Agnes Schmuck. Further. Franz Brinskelle and Ursula Moschner were married Feb 10, 1858. The records list Franz Brinskelle of Plesch #9 the son of Mathias Brinskelle and Agnes Gerger. More next window.
- 69.179.64.40 - Wednesday, July 04, 2007 at 21:29:51 (UTC)

Nancy:
The records further list Ursula Moschner of Aschelitz #5 the daughter of Josef Moschner and Margaret Mausser. I don't find any Micael Schmuck married to an Agnes Schmuck in the records for Tschermoschnitz. This is just the tip of the iceberg. You will be contacted my people better suited to help you in your search. Happy hunting!
- 69.179.64.40 - Wednesday, July 04, 2007 at 21:33:33 (UTC)

Nancy:
The stamp is very nice indeed! Happy July 4th everyone.
- 69.179.64.40 - Wednesday, July 04, 2007 at 21:36:29 (UTC)

Tom Polyak:
You are unbelievable...thanks so much for the information
- 71.155.239.172 - Thursday, July 05, 2007 at 00:55:49 (UTC)

Frank:
Tom, Look at "The Early History Of Gottschee",Then look at the Urbar of 1599.
- 72.68.176.81 - Thursday, July 05, 2007 at 04:52:24 (UTC)

Tom Polyak:
I have seen the Early History...wher can I find the Urbar of 1599?
- 71.155.239.172 - Thursday, July 05, 2007 at 10:38:38 (UTC)

Frank:
The Urbars are in the early history of gottschee:look at the dates starting in the 1400's and when you reach 1599 that's it.
- 72.80.103.147 - Thursday, July 05, 2007 at 16:11:44 (UTC)

Tom Polyak:
Help!!! Why does my message keep repeating itself?????????
- 67.36.46.170 - Thursday, July 05, 2007 at 20:30:12 (UTC)

Nancy:
I'm at a loss on that one.....anybody?
- 69.179.50.66 - Thursday, July 05, 2007 at 20:54:10 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Tom, no problem. Delete your "favorite" or "bookmark" for this page. Your bookmark has your post embedded in it. Then re-bookmark it with nothing in the message field.
- 71.236.116.249 - Thursday, July 05, 2007 at 21:01:04 (UTC)

Nancy:
Thanks Helmuth....How are you?
- 69.179.50.66 - Thursday, July 05, 2007 at 21:03:10 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Hi Nancy, and all...doing well here. Enjoying summer so far. Very busy with work but what else is new. Beats the alternative!
- 71.236.116.249 - Thursday, July 05, 2007 at 21:10:22 (UTC)

Nancy:
Yes...despite the holiday...work has been busy. You're right though...beats the alternative. Good evening everyone.
- 69.179.50.66 - Thursday, July 05, 2007 at 21:22:52 (UTC)

TRIX:

Re: Finding Rohrbeck Family
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Posted by Sophia Stalzer Wyant on July 05, 2007 at 00:08:56:

In Reply to: Finding Rohrbeck Family posted by PaulR on July 04, 2007 at 11:04:59:

regarding this posting. In checking my Gottscheer Villages publication I do find the name Parthe in Masern. There is a lady by the name of Elfriede Parthe who is vice chair of the Gottscheer Relief Assn. in NY. I am thinking she might be of help. You could reach her by calling the Gottscheer club house at 1-718-366-3030 or 1-718-821-0778.

Regarding your postings about Plesch by Tschermoschnitz. (It is not in Tschermoschnitz but rather by). Tschermoschnitz is a village and so is Plesch. I am pleased to tell you that I know the village personally having visited it numerous times since 1984. Further, I was born right
up the hill from Plesch - in the village of Oberblaschewitz or Peikeis.

According to the Gottscheer Villages book Haus No. 7 was owned by an Andreas Kump (no doubt related to you) and the house name was GREATSCHN. Every house in Gottschee was know by the house name rather then the last naqme of the owner.

I have cousins both in the USA and Germany who were born in Plesch. They may even know the Kumps. I will try to find out. There is only 1 old photo of Plesch that I know of and I will try to find it for you.

Enjoy your journey of discovering your Gottscheer ancestors.
- 209.240.245.138 - Saturday, July 07, 2007 at 02:34:51 (UTC)

Tom Polyak:
Trix: Thanks so much for the information...I look forward Tom
- 75.4.167.155 - Saturday, July 07, 2007 at 14:45:37 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Very hot and sticky in KC. Typical summer weather. Hope all are fine and enjoying the summer.
- 66.140.92.5 - Sunday, July 08, 2007 at 17:57:41 (UTC)

Nancy:
Yes Margaret...very hot here as well. Don't want to do much out of doors. Heat index again 100 degrees.
- 69.179.40.127 - Sunday, July 08, 2007 at 19:28:44 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Very hot and sticky in KC. Believe it or not, we would welcome some rain. St. Joseph, MO, got high wind, hail, heavy rain last night. We got none. St. Joe 40 miles from us. Hope all have a good week and some cooler weather. Auf widersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.105 - Monday, July 16, 2007 at 00:51:41 (UTC)

Trix:
Thanks for checking in Margaret. Actually we have had some very nice days. Today sunny, north breeze and 73. My kind of day. Rain is needed and warmer temperatures are heading this way. Many burned yards int he area and we have had some scorching days too.

Stay cooool and take care.
- 209.240.245.135 - Monday, July 16, 2007 at 02:55:09 (UTC)

Bert:
Tom Polyak
Hi Tom. Surprised to see your name. I have some info on our relatives. I will send you info. Your cousin,
Bert
- 75.83.189.88 - Thursday, July 19, 2007 at 06:52:38 (UTC)

Irene:
It has been a long cancer jouney and now I am in hospice care. I wish you all wonderful and fruitful lives. Those who are new to the plaludezimmer I hope you can pass on to your children your heritage and those who are old timers, keep up the good work.
- 72.231.176.157 - Friday, July 20, 2007 at 16:44:47 (UTC)

Trix:
Irene - THANK YOU for your message. I am so sorry to hear about your status. You have been an inspiration to all of us and your have earned our respect, support and love. Did you ever complete your doctorate? God Bless - be at peace and know that we all appreciate your words of wisdom. Please keep us informed. Hugs and prayers.
- 209.240.245.246 - Friday, July 20, 2007 at 17:11:37 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Irene. You are in my thoughts and prayers. Take care.
- 209.240.245.187 - Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 18:33:07 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hello fellow Gottscheers. Its been ages since I was here. Been keeping busy with work and yard work. I see the plauderzimmer has been busy with a couple of new enteries.
- 24.66.94.144 - Sunday, July 22, 2007 at 01:55:14 (UTC)

Trix:
Welcome back Sharon. Nice to see your message. I guess we are all keeping busy and the time just seems to fly.
Good to hear from you. Take care.
- 209.240.245.142 - Sunday, July 22, 2007 at 02:42:10 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Hi Sharon
- 70.246.75.132 - Sunday, July 22, 2007 at 22:36:59 (UTC)

Irene:
Yes, Welcome back Sharon.
Trix,
I never did finish the Ph.D.
- 72.231.176.157 - Monday, July 23, 2007 at 17:24:03 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Hi Irene! I wish you the prayers of all the PZ regulars and my own.
- 170.201.180.137 - Monday, July 23, 2007 at 18:45:53 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Irene. Just want you to know that you are in my thoughts and prayers. Is there anything I can do for you?
God Bless.
- 209.240.245.179 - Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 03:42:19 (UTC)

Sophia aka Trix:
Do you know of any source of information where I might learn more about where my dad's brother was buried after he died at Sterntal?

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. THANK YOU.
- 209.240.245.163 - Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 15:34:25 (UTC)

Irene:
Sophia,
A mis-spelling of the word "cemetaries" brought up a plauderzimmer archive.
Plauderzimmer LogMany Gottscheers had to live in these types of barracks after WWII after being ... Attention Gottscheers who have connections to the village of Altbacher in ...
hwk.best.vwh.net/chat/tqchatlog15.html - 125k - Supplemental Result -

I wasn't up to reading all of the archive. Perhaps this would help. (I find a lot of informatin by accidently mis-spelling
- 72.231.176.157 - Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 15:47:07 (UTC)

Trix:
Thank you Irene. It is very, very hot in Minnesota. We are talking about 90's with high humidity. YUK. I am thinking fall. I hope your day is peaceful.
- 209.240.245.163 - Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 17:21:05 (UTC)

Paul Rohrbeck:
I am trying to locate my family roots.I have traced my grandfather Rohrbeck to Masern Austria. He married a Parthe. Any help would be appreciated my email is prohrbeck@alltel.net
- 67.141.147.116 - Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 21:14:55 (UTC)

Frank:
Irene, My thoughts and prayers are with you also.
- 72.80.117.226 - Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 21:26:27 (UTC)

Frank:
Sophia, My grandparent's were at Sternthal also but they both died within days of being released in Vienna 1945.I have some friend's at the Gottscheer Hall here in New York who were prisoner's at Sternthal also.They would have been about ten years old at the time.I'll see what I can find out for you.
- 72.80.117.226 - Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 21:38:56 (UTC)

Justin:
Hi I'm Freidle's Grandson, How is everyone in New York. I'm from PA My grandfaters is from Moshnezen
- 70.107.34.126 - Saturday, July 28, 2007 at 20:42:03 (UTC)

Trix aka Sophia:
Justin: Greetings from Minnesota. Who is your grandfather from the Moschnitze? I am interested because I, too, am from the Moschnitze area. A name would be helpful. Look forward to hearing from you. You may write me at wyants@mlecmn.net
THANK YOU.
- 209.240.245.143 - Sunday, July 29, 2007 at 05:25:55 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend
Missed last week. Had laser surgery for a cataract. Other eye will be done 8/8. Raining today. Cooler. Grass is brown and crunchy in KC.
Maybe rain will green it up. Hope all are well.
Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.93 - Sunday, July 29, 2007 at 19:37:18 (UTC)

LilaSeedA:
Hi,

I liked your site. An excellent content. Fine the schedule.

Thanks.

- 76.188.96.13 - Thursday, August 02, 2007 at 07:12:47 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
What a sad accident, about the collapse of the bridge
in Minnesota. Hope no-one any of us know that was in the collapse of the bridge.
- 24.67.253.209 - Friday, August 03, 2007 at 05:12:23 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
It really hits home when I know that I crossed that bridge everytime I went to Minnieapolis I hope Governments around the world takes notice and start putting our safety serious. Everytime I cross the bridge that separates my town from International Falls, I always have a fear that with it and that bridge is in worst shape then the one in Minnieapolis. Our bridge probably sits about 100 feet before the power dam. If it every breaks I would say that it would take out the dam also.
Check it out using the Google Earth program. I used that program ( the same one CNN uses) to look at Gottschee. It was really interesting to see. I even looked at my house with it. I can make out our dog kennel but it kinda looks like I have a swimming pool in the back yard because we use a blue tarp to cover the kennel in the summer. My Mom and I laughed over it.
- 24.109.128.119 - Saturday, August 04, 2007 at 01:27:32 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:

Guten Abend. Hot, hot, hot in KC. Probably hot where you are, too. Praying for rain. God's not listening. Lawns look like toast. Keep us poor people in hot KC in your prayers. Auf wiedersehen.
Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.96 - Sunday, August 05, 2007 at 00:17:14 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
To anyone from Minneapolis. My prayers are with you. Hope things get better soon. KCMO had a bridge that was held together with rusty bolts. Finally got it closed and built another beside it.
Our infra structure is getting dangerous. Again, my prayers are with all of you in Minnesota.
- 66.140.92.96 - Sunday, August 05, 2007 at 00:19:32 (UTC)

Wendy Petschauer Walters:
Greetings from Minnesota. Thank you for the comments regarding the bridge collapse. I work on the 20th floor of a downtown building located about six blocks up the river from the bridge site. I can see the area from my office. It is amazing that many more lives were not lost.
- 76.164.3.34 - Monday, August 06, 2007 at 02:56:46 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Hi Wendy Petschauer Walters. Thank you for your response. You are right, we are very, very lucky only to have lost a small number. It is a miracle.

I like your name too. No doubt a Gottscheer connection with Nancy Thurber? I lived in St. Paul in the 1950's and heard the Petschauer names many times.
Feel free to write me at Wyants@mlecmn.net.
Hope to hear form you.
- 209.240.245.174 - Monday, August 06, 2007 at 03:43:53 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello Cousin Wendy! Welcome to the PZ. I agree with both you and Trix...it is a miracle that more lives weren't lost as it was rush hour. I know the entire area thanks the world for all thoughts and prayers. Trix, Wendy and her father, Tom Petschauer, are new to the GHGA. I forwarded an email to you that contained some information on Tom's grandfather (my grandfather's brother) Johann Petschauer. Perhaps you remember hearing about him...he lived to the age of 100 (1974)...and just the day before I was to interview him for my highschool history class newspaper. I often think that had the interview taken place, I would have learned of Gottschee long before 2004.
- 69.179.17.3 - Monday, August 06, 2007 at 20:45:09 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Research help!
Anybody have access to the microfilms that might answer this if you can help I would be very grateful. Josef Tramposch (b. Buchel) marr Margaretha Vogrin (b. Nesseltal) 3 Feb 1768 in Nesseltal parish. Any records (family books etc) that might show if they had children born in Nesseltal 32 in the 1770-1790's? I have listings of Josef Tramposch & Margaretha (last name NA) with children here but need confirm it is Margaretha Vogrin. Also in much need to know if one child of Josef & Margaretha Vogrin could be Thomas Tramposch who married Maria Kump & they had son Johann Tramposch (b. 25 Oct 1792 in Nesseltal 32). Any microfilms that might help if they can be looked at by anyone with access I really would appreciate.
Thanks so much!! Email me at gregglickteig@sbcglobal.net or write back here.

- 70.252.120.147 - Friday, August 10, 2007 at 02:56:25 (UTC)

Marilu:
Can someone tell me the person to contact for information on the tour to Gottschee. A phone number or email to contact this person. I know a couple of people interested in the tour. thank you.
- 207.200.116.66 - Saturday, August 11, 2007 at 12:09:39 (UTC)

Irene:
I don't have authorization for plauderzimmer 2. Could you help me?
- 72.231.179.49 - Saturday, August 11, 2007 at 16:22:53 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Hi Irene. Nice to hear from you. Hope that today is a good day. I am certain that Helmuth Kump will respond promptly.
Marilyn: Your posting has been forward to Ellie Stontitsch, hostess for the 2008 trip to Gottschee.
And finally Gregg - I wish I could help you because you are always there to help me. Unfortunately I am not a genealogist but I am certain someone will respond.
Very, very hot again in Minnesota. Stay COOOOL everyone.
- 209.240.245.149 - Saturday, August 11, 2007 at 16:55:35 (UTC)

Bruce:
I have a long overdue "thank you" to Nancy and Frank for their responses on March 19th of this year to my inquiry about headstones on Gottschee Parish and records from Gottschee Parish. I just got around to reading your responses today, and hope to contact the LDS to get the microfilm records. Thank you again!
- 76.1.33.185 - Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 05:13:16 (UTC)

Marilu:
Thanks Trix. I think I have Ellie's email address.
- 207.200.116.68 - Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 12:47:55 (UTC)

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- 65.205.87.236 - Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 16:36:51 (UTC)

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- 72.232.234.50 - Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 16:36:54 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Still VERY hot in KCMO. Probably won't cool off till Labor Day. Leaving Tuesday for Yellowstone. Be gone a week. Hope everyone has AC and is keeping cool. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.39 - Sunday, August 12, 2007 at 21:38:40 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer - Wyant:
Greetings Margaret. Thank you for checking in. Have a wonderful trip to Yellowstone. Hopefully it will be much cooler there. Safe travel.
- 209.240.245.164 - Monday, August 13, 2007 at 00:53:04 (UTC)

Nancy:
An early greeting today. It's cold and rainy here but no complaints from us. It makes a nice change from the extreme heat of the last few weeks.
- 69.179.32.80 - Sunday, August 19, 2007 at 18:45:54 (UTC)

Magaret Jonke:
Guten Abend: Missed last week. Gone to Yellowstone Nat'l Park. Wonderful things to see there. Had some rain - no floods-thank goodness. Hope none of our Gottschers were flooded last week.
Hot again next week, BUT fall is creeping up on us.
Bleib gesund.

- 66.140.92.64 - Sunday, August 26, 2007 at 20:33:35 (UTC)

Kurt Beckers:
Ich haben in Ridgewood gewohnt,ich habe 1965 im Gottscheerclubhaus Annemarie Stonitsch geheiratet.Annemarie starb 1974 hier in Deutschland. Wir haben einen gemeinsamen Sohn,der gerne wissen möchte wan sein Opa Wilhelm Stonitsch(Tischler) gestorben ist. kann mir jemand weiter helfe. Danke
- 80.137.171.107 - Friday, August 31, 2007 at 11:18:21 (UTC)

Sophia .Stalzer Wyant:
Lieber Kurt:
Wilhelm died in May of 1983 with the last known residence of Brooklyn.
oder
Wilhelm ist im Mai 1983 gestorben und seine letzte Addresse war Brooklyn.
(J.H. information)

- 209.240.245.158 - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 05:19:16 (UTC)

Nancy:
Looking forward to meeting you tomorrow Trix.
- 69.179.51.49 - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 18:34:43 (UTC)

Trix:
Me too Nancy. I hope you are ready for a BIG hug.
Safe travel.
- 209.240.245.187 - Saturday, September 01, 2007 at 19:03:37 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Happy Labor Day to all. Hope everyone is enjoying some cooler, dryer weather.
KCMO has cool nights and mornings, but very warm afternoons. Hoping for an early fall. Know everyone is having a good time at the Gottscheer get-together this weekend. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.52 - Sunday, September 02, 2007 at 18:47:48 (UTC)

Nancy:
A wonderful day spent with Gottscheer ladies and gent. A big thanks to my cousin Wendy for putting this luncheon together in Aitkin, MN. Long overdue meeting Trix...a kindred spirit. There is strength in numbers and I'm so glad to have other voices to "get the word out" to fellow Gottscheers in the area. It seems a year is too long to wait for another get together.
- 69.179.66.71 - Monday, September 03, 2007 at 01:22:12 (UTC)

Anonymous:
Helmet: I have lost my files and cannot get into
the Plauderzimmer 2 can you help me?
E-mail address CSSharpie@aol.com Thank you.
Christine
- 207.200.116.68 - Monday, September 03, 2007 at 02:31:49 (UTC)

Christine:
Sorry Helmet the last message was mine.
- 207.200.116.67 - Monday, September 03, 2007 at 02:33:43 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Just sent that to you Christine.
- 71.236.116.249 - Monday, September 03, 2007 at 15:42:57 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Froehliche Labor Day an alle meine Gottscheer Freunde!
- 68.93.106.144 - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 00:16:44 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
Nancy, in the luncheon photo, who is who?
- 68.93.106.144 - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 00:32:07 (UTC)

CSharp:
Helmouth:
Ijust tried to get into Plauderzimmer 2 and could not
get in am I doing something wrong? Also did you send
it to me via e-mail?
Thank You
Christine
- 207.200.116.14 - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 00:45:06 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Christine, yes, check your email for your username and password.
- 71.236.116.249 - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 01:09:16 (UTC)

CSharp:
Helmouth;
It is the password that is giving me the trouble.
I have not got an e-mail from you . Did you send it to CSSharpie@aol.com?
Sorry to be such troble to you Thank You
Christine
- 207.200.116.65 - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 03:20:37 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Sent you another email from my work account Christine.
- 170.201.180.137 - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 11:22:20 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Great picture, Nancy.
- 170.201.180.137 - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 11:26:54 (UTC)

Herb Mausser:
Just wanted to let everyone know that a wonderful time was had in Kitchener, Ontario this past weekend at the 45th North American Gottscheer Treffen. Beautiful weather and hundreds of good friends (including quite a few teens and twenty-somethings, which is a great sign for the future of this event). I invite everyone to the Gottscheer club and grounds in Cleveland, Ohio for the 2008 Treffen over Labor Day weekend - start making your plans now!
- 141.110.70.54 - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 12:37:31 (UTC)

Barb Vaughan:
My husband and I are traveling from Klagenfurt, Austria to Ljubljana mid September. We will have about three days in the area. We would be interested in any info you can give us os what to see in the Gottscheer area. Thank you
- 65.35.209.232 - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 16:57:20 (UTC)

Nancy:
Thank you Helmuth. Barb...do you have ancestors from Gottschee? If so...where? You might want to concentrate on a particular region. A must would be the museum in Kocevje (the former city of Gottschee.) What do others think? Isn't the Gottschee exhibit in Vienna at present?
- 207.118.217.64 - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 19:46:59 (UTC)

Barb Vaughan:
Nancy,
My mothers family was from Kukendorf, but I don't know if that area was destroyed during the war. I still would like to see the Gottschee area.
- 65.35.209.232 - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 20:41:17 (UTC)

Nancy:
Hello Barb, I think Kukendorf was destroyed but the church in Ebental has been repaired. I have a friend who is also from Kukendorf...Ridy...who now lives in Canada. The 2005 Gottschee Tour group was lucky enough to enter the Ebental church. This is the church which served Kukendorf. It is beautiful.
- 207.118.217.64 - Tuesday, September 04, 2007 at 21:21:02 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Greetings from Minnesota Barbara. I am excited to read about your trip to Gottschee. You will love it - I guarantee it.
You have 3 days that you wish to spend there. Kukendorf is located in the western region of the former Gottschee. Nancy is correct Kukendorf was destroyed either during or after the war but there are many other very interesting places to see. I would recommend that you consider hiring a native, Emil Krese who resides in Dolga vas (Grafenfeld) immediately to the south of the City of Gottschee. He has Gottscheer ancestors, knows the area better than anyone and you would truly enjoy not only his company but what to see. The sites should include the Gottscheer Exhibit in the Museum in the city of Gottschee now called Kocevje. Numerous churches and chapels that have been either built new or renovated with the help of financial support from the local residents, including Slovenians and Gottschers particularly in North America. The remaining cemeteries are a must as is eating as Ciril's Jasenc
Gostilna. His mother is a Gottscheerin born in
Langenton - western region. The church and cemetery in Ebental is beautiful as is Annaberg etc etc etc
Feel free to e-mail me for further information on Emil. I am at wyants@mlecmn.net.
Sophia
- 209.240.245.97 - Wednesday, September 05, 2007 at 02:09:28 (UTC)

Kurt Beckers:
Vielen Dank Sophie für die schnelle Hilfe.
war Wilhelm´s letzte Adresse Brooklyn oder Queens ?
- 80.137.185.66 - Wednesday, September 05, 2007 at 22:19:52 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Good evening my Gottscheer friends,

Just wanted to let you know that the Treffen in Kitchener was terrific. They did a wonderful job presenting the Treffen 2007, everything from the arrival until the departure worked like a clock work. New York and Cleveland buses went to the Alpine club for breakfast on Monday, and let me tell you, the ladies did a wonderful job with the breakfast, it was delicious. So another Treffen went off with a success story and now we are looking forward to the Treffen 2008 in Cleveland. We cordially invite you to this Treffen 2008; so let us stay well and we all look foreward in seeing each other again. I certainly was happy to see so many friendly faces, people who have been our friends for so many years. We also made some new friends, which is always nice. Stay well and God bless all of you.

And if anyone from Kitchener is on the plauderzimmer at any time, thanks again for a wonderful time and for the wonderful hospitality to showered on us. God bless all of you and you may sit back and relax and know that you did a terrific job.

So until next year in Cleveland.
- 205.188.117.205 - Thursday, September 06, 2007 at 01:56:17 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer - Wyant:
Kurt - er wohnte in Brooklyn, New York.
Wie geht es Dir?
- 209.240.245.177 - Thursday, September 06, 2007 at 03:31:41 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hello everyone, can someone tell me how to get into the other site of the plauderzimmer? Thank you for your help. This site is not really responding at times.

Have a good weekend.

- 64.12.117.140 - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 01:36:57 (UTC)

David Peter Schutte:
It warmed my heart to see how Sophie was able to help Kurt (and Kurt's son). Please keep up this blessed work!
- 68.94.187.63 - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 01:55:52 (UTC)

Sophia:
Thank you very much David Peter Schutte for your kind words. I must acknowledge my colleague JH who supplied the answers but I am very happy to have been involved.
You are appreciated.
- 209.240.245.131 - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 02:56:52 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Hilde Kobetitsch - Thank you very much for your excellent sharing about the Gottscheer Treffen in Kitchener. I have attended it twice and totally enjoyed the time there. Have yet to make it to Cleveland Treffen but looks like next year will be a no go again as we will be celebrating our 50th wedding anniversary. I will, however, be with you all in my thoughts. Be sure and dance one for me.
- 209.240.245.131 - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 03:31:29 (UTC)

Anonymous:
Sophia Wyant
I thoroughly enjoyed speaking with you last night and look forward to talking again. I tried the link that you gave me goettschee.de but was not able to link up...did I get it wrong?

Tom
- 67.36.46.170 - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 14:20:09 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Hilde, send an email to me hwk@KT3L.com and I'll get you set up.
- 71.236.116.249 - Friday, September 07, 2007 at 14:24:15 (UTC)

Nancy:
Sorry Helmuth....I see now that I should have scrolled further down.
- 69.179.53.224 - Saturday, September 08, 2007 at 18:37:17 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Tom - the feeling is mutual. I too enjoyed the conversation and we have a lot in common including enthusiasm and pride of our Gottscheer heritage.
Have a good weekend.
- 209.240.245.156 - Sunday, September 09, 2007 at 06:28:16 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Kurt Becker: Hier war Deine Anfrage im August 2007:

Kurt Beckers:
Ich haben in Ridgewood gewohnt,ich habe 1965 im Gottscheerclubhaus Annemarie Stonitsch geheiratet.Annemarie starb 1974 hier in Deutschland. Wir haben einen gemeinsamen Sohn,der gerne wissen möchte wan sein Opa Wilhelm Stonitsch(Tischler) gestorben ist. kann mir jemand weiter helfe. Danke
- 80.137.171.107 - Friday, August 31, 2007 at 11:18:21 (UTC)

Heute bekam ich das folgende Schreiben von einen guten Freund (KM)in New York:

ich bin nicht früher dazu gekommen , Dir auf Deine E-mail zu antworten. Die Fam. Stonitsch war mir bekannt. Durch die Familienforschung ,konnte ich nicht alle Todesfälle gleich ausfiendigt machen , da muste ich zuerst nachfragen . Wilhelm Stonitsch geb.10.10.1901 Neufriesach , (gest. 1981 in Walden,N.Y.State , Tag und monat habe ich nicht bekommen .) Frau Helene geb. Stiene am 21,03.1908 in Schalkendorf , (gst. 03.11.1973 in Walden, N.Y.State,USA ) Sohn Wilhelm Stonitsch geb.28.06.1928 Schalkendorf, (gest. Ocktober 1972 New York State , USA . ) Tochter Annamary Stonitsch geb. 05.12.1940 Gottschee, (gest. 1974 Ulm BRD. )
Herzliche Grüsse.

Lieber Kurt - ich hoffe diese Auskunft hielft Dir.
Alles Gute,
Sophia Stalzer Wyant
- 209.240.245.156 - Sunday, September 09, 2007 at 06:39:18 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all are well and enjoying the lovely fall weather like the weather in KCMO. Please say some prayers for a friend whose daughter is ill with re-curring cancer. Thank you. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.1 - Monday, September 10, 2007 at 00:06:59 (UTC)

Frank:
Tomorrow is the 6th anniversary of 911.Let's all say a prayer for our three fellow Gottscheers Erwin Erker,Frank Koestner and John Kren who died that day in the twin towers.
- 72.80.111.25 - Monday, September 10, 2007 at 15:45:15 (UTC)

Anonymous:
Amen Frank. Thank you for reminding us.

- 209.240.245.175 - Monday, September 10, 2007 at 16:35:41 (UTC)

Hilde Kobetitsch:
Hello everyone, Hope you enjoyed the day as much as I did. The weather here in Cleveland is just wonderful for this time of the year and we do hope it stays this way for a little bit longer.

Helmuth, I will send you an e-mail for the information in regards to the set up to the other plauderzimmer. thanks for the help.

Have a wonderful week dear friends.

- 205.188.117.77 - Monday, September 24, 2007 at 03:51:15 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
I just returned from a whirlwind trip to Austria, Slovenia and yes, some part of Gottschee. Stopped by at Ebental. Not too impressed. Took many pictures, could not enter the churches in Ebental and the one in Gottschee they were both locked. I hope I can share some of the photos with y'all.
- 128.241.20.83 - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 00:08:29 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
I just returned from a whirlwind trip to Austria, Slovenia and yes, some part of Gottschee. Stopped by at Ebental. Not too impressed. Took many pictures, could not enter the churches in Ebental and the one in Gottschee they were both locked. I hope I can share some of the photos with y'all.
- 68.73.251.110 - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 00:08:29 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
I am curious about a a place called Speharje, Slovenia. I know some Kobe's from there who seem to think they are Slovenian rather than Gottscheerisch. I don't know. Many Kobe's are in Gottschee records, and perhaps one moved there. Eventually they left there and came to Kansas City area. But they settled in a Slavic part of town rather than the German Gottsheer part of town that most other Gottscheers immigrated to. Does anybody know if other Gottscheers lived in this village or any info about it (i.e. where is it from Gottschee)? Help would be appreciated.
- 70.246.254.244 - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 00:24:24 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Welcome home Franz. Hope the whole trip wasn't that bad. Isn't that something that church doors have to be locked nowadays? They do that here where I live too.
- 70.246.254.244 - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 00:28:41 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
Gregg, thank you. In Ebental there was a note posted on the door, the key is available across the street, house #13. I went and knocked on the door, no answer but I could hear someone inside and behind the house behind bushes someone was watching me. Creepy feeling. We visted the cemetary and there were still some headstones of Gottscheers, I think I might have found the grave and headstone of Riddy's ancestors. In Gottschee City we had a similar experience with locals watching us with suspicion. Or was it only my imagination? Entering Slovenia at the border I tried to converse with the agent in German, he answered in English. Funny or what?
- 66.180.82.90 - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 00:56:46 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
Gregg, thank you. In Ebental there was a note posted on the door, the key is available across the street, house #13. I went and knocked on the door, no answer but I could hear someone inside and behind the house behind bushes someone was watching me. Creepy feeling. We visted the cemetary and there were still some headstones of Gottscheers, I think I might have found the grave and headstone of Riddy's ancestors. In Gottschee City we had a similar experience with locals watching us with suspicion. Or was it only my imagination? Entering Slovenia at the border I tried to converse with the agent in German, he answered in English. Funny or what?
- 68.73.251.110 - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 00:56:46 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
A list I have shows Speharje to be in the municipality of Črnomelj. If I have it right this is the Slovenian name for the Gottscheer Tschernembl. So would it be fair to say that Speharje is located in the parish of Tschernembl? Any thoughts?
- 70.246.254.244 - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 01:00:51 (UTC)

Yolanda Krisch:
Would like to contact Dr. Albert Krisch, son of Albert and Helena Krisch, sister's name is Helga.
I married into the Krisch family in Ridgewood, NY.
Would like to hear from Albert. I knew him as a baby.

- 151.196.12.196 - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 20:21:08 (UTC)

Marilu:
Gregg: I have most of the micofilms from Tschernembl, and this town is not familiar to me. I can look them over next week and see if it is there. Do you have a particular name and date to look for? Is Kobe the only name you want to know about, and could you give me a time frame.
- 207.200.116.199 - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 20:45:34 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Part 1
Marilu, I have only sketchy info but hopefully more will come to me soon. Mathias Kobe (b. abt 1870? Speharje). Married Barbara (b. abt 1881 Austria), possibly married in abt 1902. Don't know if marriage was in Austria or in Kansas City area. At least 6 children, all born in KC area. Possibility I may get Mathias' fathers name this weekend but not holding my breath on it. Might also get some of Mathias' siblings names.
- 70.246.254.244 - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 23:12:06 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Part 2
Marilu, Info from Kate Baum says Tschernembl parish was not part of Gottschee, although many Gottscheers lived in some of the villages there, such as Maierle, Strassenberg etc. I have an internet list of abt 8,000 current Slovenian village town and city names, and each one lists the municipality it is in. Speharje (Špeharji) shows to be in Črnomelj municipality, which is Tschernembl. This Kobe family seems to think they are Slovenian and not Gottscheerisch or German. There are many Kobe's and Kobetitsch's from the Tschernembl area. One question is are they all Slovenians or is the Kobe surname of Gottscheer decent?
- 70.246.254.244 - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 23:23:38 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Part 3
The Kobe descendent I spoke with mentioned the Kobe Valley or Kobe Mountains or something like that. She says this Speharje sat up on a hill in this area and overlooked what is now Croatia. As I look on a map I see the Tschernembl area is very close to the current Croatian border, so this makes sense.

Marilu, if you could further research this using what I have written I'd appreciate it. I do not have microfilms for this. I will write more if I find further names etc to assist you. My email is gregglickteig@sbcglobal.net

Thanks!
- 70.246.254.244 - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 23:34:43 (UTC)

Marilu:
Gregg:
Yes some villages of Tschernembl are Gottscheerish on the western edge of the parish, is what I understand. I go to the library on Tuesday and Wednesday nights and I will see what I can find.
- 207.200.116.137 - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 23:41:26 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Franz, I have to comment on the language story. That's funny. What hits me is here in the states you make a business phone call or go to a lot of stores and you hear Spanish! (at least in my part of the country). Have a great weekend.
- 70.246.254.244 - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 23:52:38 (UTC)

Ridy:
Got a chuckle out of your comment on language, Gregg. A month ago, my best friend visited us from Texas. Our friendship goes back to our days at the University of Michigan. As it happened, one of my aunts called me to ask if I’d be attending the Treffen in Kitchener, because she wanted me to meet a relative who would be visiting from Slovenia. We chatted away in Gottscheerisch, much to my friend’s amusement. She said it sounded like a bunch of gibberish to her! But she had also noted that in that one conversation I had also spoken English and High German. No sooner had I hung up the phone, than there was a call from an old mutual friend in Paris, who wanted some information about my grandchildren. I handed the phone to my husband, so that he could give her the information in French, because over the years my French has become quite rusty, as has her English, and so for the next twenty minutes we both listened to my Welsh husband having an animated conversation in French. Later that same day, another old friend called, and I again asked my husband to take it, because I was busy preparing dinner, and he proceeded to chat away in Spanish. The next call came from my friend’s husband in Texas, and her greeting to him was: “Now Bob, the first thing you have to tell me is what language you want to speak so that I know if I should hand the phone to Ray or Ridy, or if maybe you and I could just speak in English for a few minutes.” Oh – and my friend is a native New Yorker of Italian-Russian heritage. It’s a small world, after all!
- 64.229.205.126 - Saturday, September 29, 2007 at 11:20:12 (UTC)

Ridy:
Franz -
No doubt some of my ancestors, among them Maussers, Lobes, and Hoeglers, are buried in the cemetery in Ebental. However, when I last visited in 1963, the church had been destroyed, with just parts of three walls still standing, the steeple was lying on the ground, and the headstones from the cemetery were either smashed or in a pile at the edge of what used to be the cemetery. My uncle, who was with us and who had lived in Ebental until he came to Canada in the 1920s, was unable to figure out what was supposed to be where because the place had been pretty much destroyed. In the intervening years, the church has been rebuilt, paid for in large part by my relative who just visited from Slovenia (I still have not met him), and the gravestones which had not been smashes to smithereens were set up to give the appearance of a cemetery again, although the location was apparently moved slightly. I’m told they did the best they could with what was left after the rampage. If you took any photos, I’d love to see them.

- 64.229.205.126 - Saturday, September 29, 2007 at 11:38:37 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Bad storm in KCMO today. Really messed up the NASCAR race at the Spoeedway here. We needed rain, but not like this gully washer!
Hope all are well and enjoying fall weather. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.5 - Monday, October 01, 2007 at 00:01:14 (UTC)

Franz of Vancouver:
Hallo everyone I just thoutht i would check in, the weather has not been too kind in the last couple of days.
Hallo Ted I just want to thank you for the DVDs they are wonderful It was nice to hear the steierische dialect again Had a little problem understanding him at first. beautiful country south Tyrol . I am sharing them with as many people as possible . I would like to copy them but so far I was not able to.
- 70.68.187.115 - Monday, October 01, 2007 at 00:38:40 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Marilu, Please email me. I have info to give you. Also, I must give the Plauderzimmer a huge thank you. Websites like this are a tremendous help with genealogy. Thank you also to Marjan of Slovenia.
- 70.244.106.45 - Monday, October 01, 2007 at 22:54:44 (UTC)

Frank:
Lot's of good button box music.Go to "You Tube" then type in Gottschee.Try also "Slak" Slovenia's best button box player.Then try "German", there's a clip there of Full Metal Jacket a few minute segment in German,also for those old Heinje songs.Enjoy!
- 72.68.186.73 - Wednesday, October 03, 2007 at 13:02:27 (UTC)

Nancy:
Anyone know where I might get a CD with the "Petschauer Polka" on it?.....Who knew?
- 69.179.54.52 - Wednesday, October 03, 2007 at 20:58:33 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Nancy. I have never heard the Petschauer Polka but with a GREAT name like that IT HAS TO BE GOOD. I hope you find it. I would love to listen to it too. Happy Thursday.
- 209.240.245.142 - Thursday, October 04, 2007 at 12:51:56 (UTC)

Nancy:
Thanks Trix, yes....I was surprised to hear this too but I did google it and indeed it really exsist.
- 69.179.22.220 - Thursday, October 04, 2007 at 19:22:44 (UTC)

Tom Petschauer:
Hi Nancy and Trix. I just received a tape from my brother with the Petschauer Polka by the Berlin Philharmonic Brass Ensemble from 1984. Email me on this.
- 209.169.209.250 - Friday, October 05, 2007 at 03:39:18 (UTC)

hilde kobetitsch:
This message is for Ted Meditz of Germany:

Ted if you tune in the Plauderzimmer, please send me your phone number so I could call you. I am unable to reach you on e-mail for some reason.
thank you

have a wonderfule weekend

- 64.12.116.209 - Friday, October 05, 2007 at 12:12:23 (UTC)

hilde kobetitsch:
Hello Everyone
Ted, I did receive all the information and DVD's that you send me. A letter is in the mail for you and they are all so wonderful. It is great to see any information we can get our hands on in regard to the Gottscheers. Thanks againg.

- 64.12.117.197 - Friday, October 05, 2007 at 12:14:22 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Late getting message on line. Summer just doesn't want to let go of KCMO. In the 80's this past week. Had rain yesterday and today. Maybe fall will decide to make an entrance. Have a wonderful week. Aug wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.26 - Monday, October 08, 2007 at 13:19:13 (UTC)

jenny podborsek:
Im visiting NYC from Australia, could i visit the club in Ridgewood?
- 24.239.176.229 - Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 03:37:43 (UTC)

Regina Gardner in Kamloops:
Hi, Jenny, yes of course you can visit the Gottscheer Clubhouse in Ridgewood!
Would Elfriede in Walden NY get in here and let Jenny have the address and phone # of the clubhouse.
THANKS MUCH!
- 24.67.253.209 - Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 07:38:22 (UTC)

Elfriede Stonitsch:
Regina, Jenny,
The Gottscheer Clubhouse in Ridgewood is located at 657 Fairview Avenue, Ridgewood, NY 11385 and the telephone number is 718-366-3030. Jenny, where in Australia do you come from? Is this your first visit to New York? Enjoy your visit to NYC and to Ridgewood.
- 64.12.117.9 - Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 15:29:51 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Hi Jenny and welcome. I am assuming you have connections to Gottschee? May I ask to which village and what Gottscheer names? We know that many of our people emigrated to the land down under but we have very little contact them. Would love to learn more from you. I am in Minnesota but was born near Tschermoschnitz, Gottschee.
- 209.240.245.160 - Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 23:35:46 (UTC)

jenny podborsek:
Thanks Elfriede and Sophia for the info,im from Melbourne Australia.A couple of years ago Jim and Holly very kindly helped us out with info on the Schmuck family.My late husbands Mum was Rosi Schmuckwho married Vinko Podborsek. actually i have just visited Koprivnik and visited the Schmuck house.
Thanks
- 24.239.176.229 - Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 04:41:53 (UTC)

margaret jonke:
Guten Abend. Very warm in KCMO today and yesterday.
Cold front coming tomorrow. Fall has arrived.
Eddie: Do you log on to the PZ anymore? Would like to hear from you. Auf wiedersehen. Blebi geund.
- 66.140.92.39 - Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 15:05:16 (UTC)

Frank:
Jenny P. There's a function at the clubhouse on Oct 28. The Tanzgruppe is having a Bierfest.
- 71.125.244.89 - Monday, October 22, 2007 at 15:12:20 (UTC)

Roland Bernhard:
Guten Tag, I am an Austrian historian and I am working on Gottschee.
I have two questions: Do Gottscheer people hold on to gottscheer tradition also in foreign countries?
What exactly are you doing in this respect?
What are the reasons for you to hold on to the Gettschee tradition?
Thanks
Roland Bernhard
- 91.128.113.94 - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 11:36:49 (UTC)

Jenny Podborsek:
Thanks Frank,but im unfortunately leaving the day before.Yesterday my cousin helga poje took me there but it was closedbut i took a photo outside and look forward to visiting next time i come back to NYC.This city is great ive had such a wonderful time there is just so much to see and do.so now to brace for the long flight home.
- 24.239.176.229 - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 13:03:38 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Roland Bernhard. Thank you for your message. I loved your questions and hope that you will receive many responses. Where, in Austria are you at? I was born in the former Gottschee and grew up in Altfinkenstein by Villach, Kärnten. I would enjoy hearing from you. Feel free to write me at wyants@mlecmn.net

Auf Wiederhöhren und liebe Grüße aus einen windigen Minnesota.
- 209.240.245.157 - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 18:33:15 (UTC)

Frank:
Jenny P. Schone Reise!
- 72.68.189.4 - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 20:33:18 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Greetings from Minnesota Jenny. I hope you had a GREAT trip home. I just received the following information from my colleague and distant cousin from upstate New York. I thought you might enjoy it.

Dear Cousin Trix,
I just checked and Jenny's late husband was related to you through the Brinskelles of Sporeben #7 - Mathias Brinskelle through his son Bartholomäus' daughter, Agnes Brinskelle's marriage to Andreas Schmuck of Ribnig #5 on Feb. 6, 1787 in TZ parish.

For your information Jenny my grandmother was Maria Brinskelle born in Haus No. 7 in Sporeben, Gottschee.
She married Andreas Schober in nearby Stockendorf and
emigrated to Canada after the war. I have visited those villages AND Ribnik numerous times in recent years. I also have some wonderful photos and will happily share them with you.

Now that we are related I would truly enjoy hearing from you. My e-mail address is wyants@mlecmn.net.

Liebe Grüße.
Sophia
- 209.240.245.135 - Sunday, October 28, 2007 at 16:15:42 (UTC)

Franc Osterman:
Hi, folks!
I have dedicated quite some time for gathering data about the Osterman (my) family and I am in the process of making a family tree. If you have any kind of information about OSTERMANNs/OSTERMANs in Niedergottscheerland (Rieg, Hintenberg, Proese, Unterwetzenbac,...) and in the neighbouring parishes of Banja Loka and Fara (Kostel) in former Austria, Yugoslavia and present Slovenia. I would very much appriciated the information.
Thank you, Franc
franc.osterman@guest.arnes.si

- 193.2.216.130 - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 12:27:51 (UTC)

Anonymous:

From the GHGA Query page:

Posted 27 October 2007
Would anyone have a recipe for "gone-sa-lain?" [Gantsëlain]
My grandmother, Sophie Schneider (Krisch) made it for us all the time but never wrote down the recipe. Thank you.
Debra Howard deb127@sbcglobal.net
- 209.240.245.156 - Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 04:46:16 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
I am sorry but the previous posting came from me.
- 209.240.245.156 - Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 04:47:01 (UTC)

Helmuth:
That's okay Trix. I have some feelers out on the Gantsëlain question. Will let you know.
- 170.201.180.137 - Thursday, November 01, 2007 at 18:08:07 (UTC)

Frank:
Gantselain (Corn meal) 2 1/2 cups corn flour,4 cups water,1 ts salt, 1 tbs butter. Pour flour slowly into boiling salted water.With wooden stirrer,carefully puncture hole through floating flour and cook for about 15 minutes.Then stir in butter and let simmer 15 to 20 minutes,covered and with low heat.Scoop up with stirrer and using a fork,shave off onto dish.This is from the Gottschee cookbook"Hoimischai Khoscht" {Home Taste}, by Albert Belay. We used to add bacon and sometimes pour coffee into it.
- 72.68.180.244 - Thursday, November 01, 2007 at 22:17:58 (UTC)

Frank:
Gantselain, Usually served with milk,butter milk or cream soup!
- 72.68.180.244 - Thursday, November 01, 2007 at 22:20:33 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
WAY TO GO Frank. Thank you.
- 209.240.245.133 - Thursday, November 01, 2007 at 23:49:55 (UTC)

Frank:
Sophia, Your welcome.
- 72.68.173.101 - Friday, November 02, 2007 at 13:06:14 (UTC)

rabuse:
habe fragen zu rabuse in usa please help iam comming frm germany
- 213.196.253.31 - Saturday, November 03, 2007 at 05:43:08 (UTC)

rabuse:
email adress from willi rabuse willirabuse@web.de
- 213.196.253.31 - Saturday, November 03, 2007 at 05:45:49 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Frank: Excited to hear you describe gantselain! That was often a meatless Friday night dinner item.
Thank you for bringing back memories of what my Oma used to cook. Hope everyone has a lovely November
week. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.24 - Sunday, November 04, 2007 at 02:07:51 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Roland: We log onto the Plauderzimmer to keep in touch with our roots. My last name now is Murphy, but I log on with my maiden name of Jonke. Murphy doesn't sound like a Gottscheer, but I want to remember the things we did when I was growing up.
There are a lot of us who still cherish the heritage.
- 66.140.92.24 - Sunday, November 04, 2007 at 02:25:54 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Amen to that Margaret. Yes, many of us continue to cherish and remember our proud heritage of being a Gottscheer. May you, too, have a wonderful week. Deer season opened today and I am waiting to process some venison and then cook it to perfection.
- 209.240.245.144 - Sunday, November 04, 2007 at 03:53:59 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Deer season for bow opened in MO already and 11-10 is the opening for rifle season. Our farm will be very busy soon. We share deer meat with friends and neighbors and a food pantry run by Benedictine sisters. Happy hunting and cooking
- 66.140.92.41 - Sunday, November 04, 2007 at 17:30:30 (UTC)

Marilu:
My two sons and son-in-laws and 3 of the grandchildren are elk and deer hunting this weekend. If they bring home meat we will start butchering on Friday.
- 207.200.116.198 - Sunday, November 04, 2007 at 20:36:06 (UTC)

Frank:
Margaret: Glad to bring back those old memories.We always loved that Gantselain meal and friday was a non meat day back in the 1950's, and the mass was said in Latin.
- 72.68.171.199 - Tuesday, November 06, 2007 at 02:12:38 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi everyone. We have some good news to share. There will be an addition to the Gottscheer lineage. I'm due in April.
This is our first child. We are doing great.
- 24.109.134.234 - Tuesday, November 06, 2007 at 23:30:47 (UTC)

Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
CONGRATULATIONS Sharon. WAY TO GO. You will have much to tell your child about your Gottscheer ancestors. Enjoy your pregnancy and keep us posted. Still hoping to get to International Falls one of these years and meeting you in person.
- 209.240.245.175 - Wednesday, November 07, 2007 at 13:43:02 (UTC)

kotze:
like to to get to origen of the name kotze
- 204.52.242.50 - Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 16:48:52 (UTC)

Ridy:
Offhand, without trying to look it up, I'd say the name Kotze is the Gottscheer version of the German name Katze - which is 'cat' in English
- 64.229.206.45 - Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 20:55:52 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Congratulations! Sharon. Good to hear from you again. Hope all is well with you and the family.
- 70.250.203.188 - Friday, November 09, 2007 at 01:46:35 (UTC)

Mark Oswald:
Several members of my extended family and I recently visited our grandparents birthplace of Draga. We saw the church where they were baptized and married. Now we want to know more. We would love to know more about anyone whp knows relatives of Franz and Johanna (Glatz) Oswald, married in 1893 in Draga. We should have cousins named Turk, Schager, Tusek, Vesel or Glatz.
My e-mail is mark_oswald@msn.com. I live in Santa Fe, New Mexico, but I'm originally from Arkansas, where my grandparents moved in the earluy 1900s.
Thansk ofr nay help.....
- 67.41.98.192 - Friday, November 09, 2007 at 04:13:59 (UTC)

Mark Oswald:
Sorry the last part of my post was garbles...just saying thanks for any help....
- 67.41.98.192 - Friday, November 09, 2007 at 04:15:24 (UTC)

Irene:
Sharon, That is wonderful news! Glad everyone is doing well.
- 72.231.184.249 - Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 14:40:58 (UTC)

Sophia:
Irene, good to read your message. How are you?
- 209.240.245.139 - Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 19:27:17 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Pretty slim pickings for the deer hunters on our farm. Our grandson got a buck, but no one else bagged any. Well, there are quite a few more days to the rifle season. I wish all a good week. We may get rain this evening, I hope.
Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.101 - Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 22:19:45 (UTC)

Marilu:
We butchered two elk this weekend. My son and son-in-law each shot one.
- 207.200.116.130 - Tuesday, November 13, 2007 at 00:03:09 (UTC)

Regina in Kamloops:
Hi, Marilu, it looks like your family will be enjoying some good meat this winter season!
The only wild meat I have ever had was Moose meat in
Newfoundland, it was very lean and tasted different then the usual beef but was good.
- 24.67.253.209 - Wednesday, November 14, 2007 at 07:40:38 (UTC)