Plauderzimmer Log, Apr '99 - Nov '99
urska stimec:
Hello everyone!
I wish you all Happy Easter and hope, to find a chance to chat with you someday... But if I want to chat I must get up in the middle of the night (at 3 o´clock in the morning) and then I am on Monday very sleepy at my work. Could we chat at least two hours sooner? Once in the month?
I would be very happy to hear suggestions from you.
Have a nice week,
Urska
- 212.30.94.9 - Saturday, April 03, 1999 at 17:58:43 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi everybody! Hope you had a Happy Easter!
I rather like Urska's idea of having an earlier chat time
occasionally. As early as 1 o'clock would suit me fine - 2 or 3 o'clock would be better. After that some of us have to cook dinner and then you're into the dinner hour, of course.
But it may bring more Europeans into the chat room if we have the occasional early hour. It has my vote. . .
- ppp5813.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 05, 1999 at 01:18:27 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Happy Easter Season to all! I like to celebrate for the full seven Sundays. I think an earlier chat time occasionally would be a great idea as long as it doesn't interfere with my afternoon nap! OK even if it does I'll still make an effort to get online.
- g6modem114.tusco.net - Monday, April 05, 1999 at 01:31:14 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Holly,
Thanks for the info on the Jonke/Yonke family. They spell there name Yonke in the US. I haven't gotten around to looking this info up. I will ask my cousin whether she knows anything about her Dad's brother's and sister's. I know her father died when she was in her teens. Thanks again.
- proxy-358.public.rwc.webtv.net - Tuesday, April 06, 1999 at 05:27:28 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Sorry I missed plauderzimmer on Easter Sunday. Hope everyone had a good holiday and lots of Easter treats.
- async01-33.qni.com - Tuesday, April 06, 1999 at 13:41:57 (GMT)
Helmuth:
Hi participants! Hope everyone had a nice Easter.
About a year ago we did a little poll to see what day and time would be best for Gottscheer chat. The winner was Sunday at 9 PM; however much has changed and there are many different people logging on from all over the world.
Whatever the group decides I will change the page headers to reflect the new time. Or, you can have multiple times, you are not limited to once a week.
- gtwy.fishersci.com - Tuesday, April 06, 1999 at 21:17:29 (GMT)
Helga:
Happy Easter to everyone--quite a few days late.
Ridy,
Are you related to Hilda Koenig? She is my second cousin.
- 2ip54.rvi.net - Wednesday, April 07, 1999 at 20:35:26 (GMT)
Mary Ellen Cox:
I live in Knoxville, TN. My mother Eleanor Schauer Cox is from NY, NY. Her parents were Edward Schauer - born 2/21/94 in Oberwarmberg and Marie (Mary) Sedler - born 9/8/94 in Reichenau. I'm just starting to trace my roots. I noticed some connections (I think) on this message board with Eduard Stalzer, Jim Heimann and a person named Doreen.
I've heard my mother talk about Ridgewood, NY and Victor Schauer. My grandfather, Edward Schauer owned a bakery too. Doreen mentioned my mother's name as child of Mary Schauer.
Obviously, I'm just getting started. I'm going to work with my Mom to get more details about our family and try to start constructing our family tree. Any help would be much appreciated. Also looking forward to meeting some relatives.
Going to NY in May to visit many cousins and my uncle, Edward Schauer and aunt Florence (Babe) Schauer Harkins.
Looking forward to exploring some more - let me hear from you!!
Mary Ellen Cox
mecox@utkux.utk.edu
- NCHM06A5.RMT.UTK.EDU - Thursday, April 08, 1999 at 14:45:33 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Helga - Hilda Koenig is my first cousin! Her mother, Albertina, was my father's oldest sister. My father was Wilhelm Hoegler of Kukendorf. Tell me more! My e-mail address is ridy@sympatico.ca
- ppp966.on.bellglobal.com - Thursday, April 08, 1999 at 18:24:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening to everyone. Been working on some Gottscheer data.
- spider-we063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:15:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Is anyone here?
- spider-we063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:15:31 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, everybody. I'm a little late. Anything exciting happening? Eddie, are you on? Mark, are you on?
- 209.126.31.53 - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:19:23 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
o.k. you got my interest!
- ts1-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:19:25 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Mary Ellen Cox. Eduard Stalzer is my cousin, my second cousin. His mother is my first cousin. They lived in Ridgewood. Many of my relatives lived there. Eduard's grandmother and grandfather managed the Gottscheer Club in Ridgewood. If you can contact Eduard, he will be very helpful in tracing relatives. My great grandmother was Ursula
Stalzer. (oops) Hope you get the information you need.
- 209.126.31.53 - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:26:45 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Mary Ellen Cox: My aunt, Leni Yonke, is still alive and lives in Mahopac, NY. She is the last Yonke (Jonke) relative who knew everything from the old country. Her husband, Gustav Yonke, was my father's youngest brother. W e should all hear the stories she tells about the second world war and live in Gottschee. Fascinating!
- 209.126.31.53 - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:29:54 (GMT)
Helga Krisch Dudley:
Hi Ridy--
Happy to hear from you. Hilda's father, Alois Koenig, was my grandfather's (Johann Koenig) brother. My grandmother was Magdalena Koenig. They lived in Koflern, although I think my grandfather was born in Rotenstein, Gottschee.
Hilda used to live around the corner from us on Bleeker Street in Ridgewood when we first moved to America. I believe she moved to the Midwest after her parents passed away. In fact, I just talked to her on the phone the other night. My mother was Helene (Leni or Lene) Krisch. I lost her in January of 1997. My father Albert Krisch from Masern died in 1970. I also have a brother, Albert. My Tante Poldi Fink (married to Hans Fink) is still alive and knows quite a lot about the Koenigs, obviously since she was one. I'd love to chat with you more some time.
My e-mail address is biscuit@rvi.net.
Hope to hear from you.
- 2ip11.rvi.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:32:33 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Really must say Auf Wiedersehen and Guten Nacht. Have a busy Monday planned. See you all next Sunday. I wish everyone logged on tonight could talk to my Tante Leni. Bye for now.
- 209.126.31.53 - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:34:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello again.
Aol kicked me off for inactivity.
- spider-we063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:35:16 (GMT)
Helga Krisch Dudley:
Does anybody know what the "average" Gottscheer's (if there is such a thing) take on this whole Kosovo thing is?
- 2ip11.rvi.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:36:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, How are you doing? Best wishes to all. I sent an email to my cousin, Mary Ellen but she has not responded. She is a second cousin of both Ed Stalzer and myself.
- spider-we063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:38:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Helga,
I got an email from Max Mische about Kosovo. It is such a complex situation in an area beset with more than the average amount of ethnic and religious hatred. In a small part it mirrors the ethnic mistrust that resulted in the exodus of Gottscheers before and after WWII (economics also played an important part).
- spider-we063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:40:45 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Hi Everyone! I'm a little late. An exciting week-end, I got to interview Klingons for a story about the local Star Trek convention. I love Star Trek!
Helga had an interesting question, I hope someone has an answer.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:42:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
thanks for the well wishes. The calling hours were tonight with the funeral tomorrow. What are you working on. Love meeting living relatives.!
- ts1-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:42:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy,
Are you still on? What are your thoughts about Kosovo? If I understand things correctly, Gottscheers were very proud of their Germanic/ Austrian origins but that is also a two edged sword that can, at times, result in negative feelings about others.
- spider-we063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:42:52 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Teri,
Are you hooked on the Trekkies?? It's a fun thing!
- ts1-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:44:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Live long and prosper, Teri. I love Star Trek in all of its incarnations. After this year, only Voyage will remain. Holly, I was working on some of the Riegel information that Mary Mazzoni had sent me as well as continuing to plod through the Nesseltal marriage file. I was hoping that Mary Ellen Cox would be on tonight.
- spider-we063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:44:59 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Hi Holly! I'm surprised you are on tonight, it has to be an exhausting time for you. Good to see you here though.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:45:00 (GMT)
Helga Krisch Dudley:
I kind of felt that the older folks must be reliving their past yet one more time, rekindling memories of being summarily marched from their homes as refugees to another country. I heard so much about the Partisanen and the "Fluechten" in my growing up years. Yet I can't help but think that they are not in favor of these bombings.
- 2ip11.rvi.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:45:30 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Thanks Teri,
I needed a little pick me up! so thought I'd see what everyone was doing!
- ts1-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:45:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
That Nesselthal stuff has me bugged. It isn't easy to sort through. Even the birth records aren't the greatest
- ts1-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:47:59 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
I have never been to the convention but I may go this year. I don't have a costume, but I wore my Vulcan Science Academy t-shirt and communicator pin to the interview. I also took my tribble, but the Klingons were not impressed. As everyone knows tribbles hate Klingons.
This area group is really great. They use the convention to raise money for local charities.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:48:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Helga, I am sure there is no love lost between the Gottscheers who lived through the flight and the leaders/ people of Yugoslavia/ Serbia. The area has been the cradle for war and genocide for many years.
- spider-we063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:48:35 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
oH Teri,
That is such a cute idea and fun for everyone involved.
- ts1-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:51:12 (GMT)
Helga Krisch Dudley:
Jim--
Without a doubt what you say is true. But they are a practical constructive folk. This destruction can't sit well with them.
I haven't called my stepfather, Ernst Petschauer or my Tante Pold or Onkel Hans to hear their thoughts. I hope to talk to them this wee.
It all seems so outrageous and sad.
- 2ip11.rvi.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:52:52 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
My Mom is in contact (for the newspaper) with a local family receiveing e-mail from relatives near Kosovo. I make sure I go out to get the newspaper early when I know an e-mail will be in it. The personal stories about the conflict are the most interesting.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:55:13 (GMT)
Helga Krisch Dudley:
Unfortunately my time tonight is really limited. I have to get my students' grades completed and recorded and I don't want to stay up all night to complete my mission.
Hope to be back next week.
Gute Nacht.
- 2ip11.rvi.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:56:21 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Hi Everyone
- ts034d26.lap-ca.concentric.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:56:44 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Goodnight Helga. Nice talking with you.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:57:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, I told you that the priests were nipping at the schnapps. Does anyone know what the preferred alcohol libations were in Gottschee? Beer, wine, something else. I know more than one of my ancestral relatives indulged in a fair sharing of bier getrinken ???sp (pardons to anyone who knows how to say beer drinking).
- spider-we063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:57:55 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Does anyone know Elizabeth Tomitx (nee Hoegler) living in Middle Village?
- ts034d26.lap-ca.concentric.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:58:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Helga, good night.
Just a quick note. I am from Bushwick and my grandmother lived on St.Nickolaus Avenue near St.Brigid's church. I will look at your notes to see if there is a connection.
- spider-we063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:59:24 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Sorry--that should have been "Tomitz"
- ts034d26.lap-ca.concentric.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 01:59:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Joe. No link with her. How are you doing in California? Are you still there?
- spider-we063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 02:00:08 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Doing great--how about you?
- ts034d26.lap-ca.concentric.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 02:01:36 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Good night everyone
- ts034d26.lap-ca.concentric.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 02:04:23 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Well I better be going. Hope to talk to everyone next week. I'll be thinking about you tomorrow Holly.
Goodnight everyone!
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 02:04:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night Teri and Joe. Things are busy in New Jersey. Ridy are you in the background? Holly, I guess nobody knew about the drinks offered in the gasthaus.
- spider-we063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 02:06:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I guess everyone has signed off. Good night to all. I will check my mail before pushing off for tonight.
- spider-we011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 02:15:26 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Sorry I missed all of you this evening - I spent the day in Kitchener. There was a bridal shower for the daughter of my cousin who died suddenly before Christmas. All my surviving aunts were there - Sofie Eppich, Frieda Mausser, Leni Mausser (my late mother's sisters) and Marie Mausser and Steffie Mausser, who are aunts by marriage; as well as most of my cousins and their daughters. It was a great gathering with an equal mixture of laughter and tears.
There were plenty of discussions about Kosovo - because apart from our natural sympathy for the poor refugees, all of us who lived through the war years 1941 to 1945 in Gottschee, Untersteiermark and then in my family's case, the flight to Graz, are reliving those times when we see the television reports -- and we all realize that nothing has changed in the intervening years -- the old hatreds are still there, along with the indescribeable brutality. The big difference now is that the TV cameras are there as well. So many of our countrymen were murdered during those times, and others perished from hunger and disease on the long journeys to safety, there was so much brutality and it took long years to learn to live with those memories. Now they seem to be all out in the open again - the only difference is that this time around none of us are direct victims -- but the perpetrators are the same. And I don't mean the bombs.
- 206.172.235.240 - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 04:36:32 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Just thought I'd tell you -- we had a snowstorm in Kitchener today and when I left there they still had at least 2 inches of the heavy wet stuff on the ground! There was also snow in Toronto, but at least here it melted right away. This isn't funny - it's not supposed to do that so late in the season in this part of Canada.
- 206.172.235.240 - Monday, April 12, 1999 at 04:44:19 (GMT)
:
Re: Kosovo
One thing to remember this time is that there are NO innocent, hard working people like us and our Ahnen were.
I guarantee you, were the shoe on the other foot, those who are the refugees now would be doing the same to Serbs.
They are all cut from the same cloth. Look at the past 100 years. Titos hatred and brutality is instilled in each
and every person involved, on both sides. I hope NATO keeps
dropping bombs till there are none left.
I spoke to many this weekend at Gottscheer Hall at the 75th anniversary of Clubhouse, and all shared the same feelings. No tears shed here...
- nyf-ny14-26.ix.netcom.com - Tuesday, April 13, 1999 at 02:36:18 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
There's no name on the previous message -- too bad -- one should have the courage of one's convictions.
- ppp1054.on.bellglobal.com - Wednesday, April 14, 1999 at 03:00:43 (GMT)
Helmuth:
Unsigned: like you, I heard the stories from my parents and grandparents of the Serb Partisans' atrocities against the Gottscheers. I have no quarrel with you that the NATO bombings are justified. However your statement about "NO innocent hardworking people like us" is a litte arrogant. To say that the ethnic Albanians are somehow a lesser class than the Gottscheers were is passing your judgement on them...are you so sure you are qualified to do that? This war is not about 100, 300 or 500 years of anything...it is about the atrocities of Milosevic's "ethnic cleansing"; that is the reason we are there, pure and simple, and we should stay there until it stops.
- gtwy.fishersci.com - Wednesday, April 14, 1999 at 12:03:23 (GMT)
Helmuth:
Ridy, I agree. Everyone should enter their name.
- gtwy.fishersci.com - Wednesday, April 14, 1999 at 12:16:04 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi to everybody on line tonight. How are you all? Have a good week? Eddie, are you on line?
- async01-66.qni.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:09:39 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim Heimann:
You wrote about liquors last week. My father's family was particularly fond of slivovitz (?) I thought it was like drinking anti-freeze myself. Anyone ever drink any slivovitz?
- async01-66.qni.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:14:26 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Anybody: Please translate the Ahnen for me. Thanks.
- async01-66.qni.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:17:08 (GMT)
HollyLeersDroese:
Hi there Margaret,
Slivovitz is still served at our family get togethers. I think it is awful!
- 207.170.156.130 - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:20:07 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Pretty slow tonight. Guess I'll log off. We prayed for peace today at church. Peace in Yugoslavia. That's what I'll ask from everyone on line tonight. Pray for peace.
- async01-66.qni.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:20:28 (GMT)
HollyLeersDroese:
night Margaret!
- 207.170.156.130 - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:21:09 (GMT)
Ridy:
Margaret:
Ahnen = ancestors
- ppp5730.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:24:00 (GMT)
Ridy:
Holly: Is it just you and me Babe?
- ppp5730.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:25:17 (GMT)
Ridy:
Margaret:
Ahnen = ancestors
- ppp5730.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:27:38 (GMT)
HollyLeersDroese:
oH Hi Ridy,
I just jumped off to work on my files. Liked the cat bath story.
- 207.170.156.130 - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:30:10 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Hi! I'm here for a few minutes. How is everyone?
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:35:50 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, everyone. Hi, Teri.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:38:55 (GMT)
Ridy:
So did all of you get to file your Income Tax on time? Just think of it, if you lived in Canada you wouldn't have to file until the end of April AND you would be compelled to pay more tax!
- ppp5730.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:39:30 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Jim - Hi Teri
This is definitely better than doing crossword puzzles!
- ppp5730.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:40:29 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Definitely better than crossword puzzles. Been going through a passle of Holly's information. Links galore. Holly, have I been keeping you busy enough.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:42:13 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Hi Jim and Ridy. Yes I got my income tax filed. What a relief not to have to think about it until next year.
Ridy are you a hockey fan? I saw that Wayne Gretsky retired today.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:42:38 (GMT)
HollyLeersDroese:
hI Gang,
My husband got an extension on the income tax.
I saw Wayne on t.v. today. what a legend! Of course he never did look like his doll.
- 207.170.156.130 - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:46:08 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Income tax. Ouch. I say------ ouch. I felt like I was a Canadian.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:46:20 (GMT)
Ridy:
I don't think I qualify as a hockey fan - although even I know who Wayne Gretsky is. I once told my late brother that the Grey Cup (Canadian football trophy) was being played in Maple Leaf Gardens - our recently retired hockey palace here in Toronto; and another time I fell asleep during a play-off game and was sent home in a cab in disgrace.
- ppp5730.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:47:24 (GMT)
HollyLeersDroese:
Jim,
I have been very busy. I didn't have that info on Andreas Schauer in Altlag 58.
- 207.170.156.130 - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:47:36 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Internet Problem solving: We have a robin at work that sees his reflection in the windows and keeps attacking it. We taped newspapers to the windows and it stopped him but then our plants started dying. We took the newspaper down and he started again. Does anyone have any advice on others ways to get him to stop??? Scare crow? Foil pan?? Help!
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:49:03 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Ridy-Must be like football. That's easy to fall asleep to also!
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:50:14 (GMT)
Ridy:
Teri - this may sound extreme - but I could send ChiChi down to take care of your robin! Just kidding!
- ppp5730.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:50:37 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Did you have Andreas Schauer from Kuntschen#3? He was the son of Mathias S and Agnes Fink.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:50:59 (GMT)
HollyLeersDroese:
Teri,
I used a trash bag tied to a nail. It waved in the wind and scared it away. as soon as breeding season is over with, he will be gone
- 207.170.156.130 - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:51:29 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Chi-Chi sounds like a good idea. I actually did tape some small cat pictures (from my daily cat calendar) to the windows. It only stopped him for a few minutes. I guess he figuired out they weren't real cats!!
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:52:31 (GMT)
HollyLeersDroese:
Jim,
I had Andreas listed but not his full birth date.
Ridy, baaad girl!
- 207.170.156.130 - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:53:00 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Thanks Holly!! I'll try the trash bag idea. We have plenty of those at work. I'll just raid the supplies out back!
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:53:33 (GMT)
HollyLeersDroese:
I have a covered bridge in my back yard and I don't want the birds nesting in the rafters so I tie them on and don't have any problems with them.
Let me know if it works for you
- 207.170.156.130 - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:55:27 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Pretty persistent robin. I have mostly trouble with the furry pests- woodchucks, possum, occasional skunk, and racoon. Then there are the geese. Endangered and protected--- bah humbug. Goose droppings all over the place.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:56:06 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Holly- Went to the Prime Outlet Stores on I-71 yesterday. They now have a Liz Claiborne outlet,which is where I spend most of my money. I needed some new summer clothes and was actually in a shopping mood. You have to go there.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:57:11 (GMT)
HollyLeersDroese:
I love the geese that come to my yard. They bring the little ones to visit but they live at the Golf course. It makes a nice walk over for them. So I enjoy them but don't get as much yuk
- 207.170.156.130 - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:58:12 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
We have so many Canada Geese here I hear they want to organize hunters to kill 500 to donate to food banks. A few years ago we didn't have any Canada Geese, they are really expanding their territory.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:58:59 (GMT)
HollyLeersDroese:
Teri,
Do they have a Ralph Lauren? That is my weakness!
- 207.170.156.130 - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 01:59:17 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim -
They must be Canada Geese -- so please, be kind to them!
But keep the rubber boots handy and tread gingerly!
- ppp5730.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:00:23 (GMT)
HollyLeersDroese:
I heard about that killing too. They are so messy that I can surely understand it.
- 207.170.156.130 - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:01:38 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Yes. They have it listed as Polo/Ralph Lauren Factory Store. They have over 70 stores there now.
Well see that's it's now past ten, so I better get going. Goodnight to all and have a good week!
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:02:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I would so say--- go get them whether Canadian or not. Or perhaps send them back to Canada but it seems they prefer to live in the USA.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:03:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Teri.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:03:39 (GMT)
HollyLeersDroese:
Hey Jim,
I refuse to comment on that except to say Stop picking on Ridy!LOL!
Night Teri
- 207.170.156.130 - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:04:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I would never pick on Ridy.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:09:14 (GMT)
Ridy:
Actually, if the truth be told, we've been trying to convince the geese to stay down in the States - they've contributed enough to the fertility of this country for now!
- ppp5669.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:09:16 (GMT)
HollyLeersDroese:
Send us your tired, your poor,....
I can't remember the rest of our motto
Wonder if it applies to Geese!
- 207.170.156.130 - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:12:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, Getting back to your comments on the Kosovo situation from the other day---------
Kosovo is not a simple situation and it is not all one sided. Milosovic (?sp) makes it easy to engage him but that area is notorious for long standing blood feuds and ethnic hatreds. The Albanians, on the other hand, also have a reputation for violence and simmering hatred for foreigners. I don't know the answer and I don't think Clinton does either.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:13:12 (GMT)
HollyLeersDroese:
Well gang,
I gotta go and get some e-mail answered.
so take care
- 207.170.156.130 - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:13:45 (GMT)
Ridy:
Do you think we should rename this the Funny Hour? I think we've been funny!
- ppp5669.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:13:52 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Geese, taxes, Kosovo---- I am getting depressed. Let's talk about Autumn.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:14:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly,
Take care.
Ridy, I guess I laid an Canadian egg with Kosovo. It is such a difficult situation and emotions run so high.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:16:00 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim -
I don't think anyone has the answer on Kosovo -- I blow with the wind on that one -- I remember hearing stories way back in my early childhood - which eventually turned into real-life nightmares all around us. Never quite got over being a refugee myself. But somebody has to try to stop it - and it may as well be NATO. The operative word being "try" -- After all, we're supposed to be civilized - arent' we?
- ppp5669.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:19:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
But what do we do afterward??? Let Kosovo join with Albania. Then what about the Albanian claims to Montenegro and Macedonia. There does not seem to be an endpoint. And then what about the other areas around the globe where more people are doing than in Kosovo but there is no hue and cry. I don't know the answer but I do know we are inconsistent in the application of our humanitarian beliefs.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:21:32 (GMT)
Ridy:
I was hoping Autumn would be on tonight! That was such a delightful surprise!
- ppp5669.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:21:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I meant more people are dying than in Kosovo. Oh well, there is no answer.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:22:45 (GMT)
Ridy:
There would never be peace if Kosovo joined with Albania - there's too much Serbian history in Kosovo. And that's the puzzle - there's really no easy solution.
- ppp5669.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:24:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have to figure out how she links in. I printed out her emails and will get to it when I am done with some of the Altlag family book information. Do your aunts know any of the people that she was talking about?
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:24:12 (GMT)
Ridy:
My aunts are on my mother's side, because mother was the eldest, and they're all younger (stands to reason). There's nobody left of my father's generation - he was the youngest of 14 children.
- ppp5669.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:26:44 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Would have been great to link them with living relatives. Better luck next time.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:28:16 (GMT)
Ridy:
That was the wonderful part of having a family reunion. When I organized the first one for our family back in l987 - one month before my father died - he was beside himself with joy because he met many family members he had never seen before - we all did.
- ppp5669.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:31:10 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am trying to do a little of that myself. I may try to get some relatives together for the local Gottscheer meeting in June. I am going to retire for the evening. Nice chatting. Email when you get the chance. Maybe we can cure the world's ills. Maybe not.
- spider-wi013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:33:12 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good night!
- ppp5669.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 02:34:03 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
The war in Yugoslavia is sad and complex. It stirs up many emotions. I logged off early Sunday night.
- async05-07.qni.com - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 11:52:49 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi everyone! I know its early in the week, but I wanted to say Hi. I will try to talk this Sunday. I have been up here in NH without my computer. Later.
- bsg-ma1-206.ix.netcom.com - Friday, April 23, 1999 at 01:02:13 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello
- client-151-198-133-170.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 00:59:32 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Is anyone there
- client-151-198-133-170.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:03:06 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Good evening, everyone! Hope you all had a super week. It has rained in KCMO for 4 straight days. We will soon be building an ark.
- async08-76.qni.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:03:36 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
This is my first time here.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:06:09 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Dear Kathy, I'm here. Let's chat. Logged off early Last week. The discussion was going nowhere and it was getting very argumentative. Sorry. I just asked for prayers for the whole situation in Yugoslavia.
- async08-76.qni.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:07:01 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Reading a book about Gottschee. Seems that history repeats itself.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:08:10 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Dear Kathy Milano, Welcome aboard. I'll confess that my maiden name was Jonke. That is a familiar name on the plauderzimmer. My married name is Murphy. That would be strange on this channel. How did you find this chatroom?
- async08-76.qni.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:09:00 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Jim H. told me about it.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:09:50 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie Stalzer: Hey, no wonder you haven't answered my emails. You are now supposed to be in Floriday. Your mom said you would be home for a few days? Have you sold your townhouse yet? How are Nancy and Krista? What's happening in New Hamp? Miss you.
- async08-76.qni.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:10:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening!! The weather is great on the east coast. The ground is still too wet to garden but it is getting there.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:14:08 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hi Jim.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:14:33 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Hi Everyone!
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:18:46 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi everyone,
How's everything going.
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:21:04 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Teri,
That was so exciting to hear about the Klingons.
I like it!
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:21:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
How is everyone doing?
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:22:05 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Hi Holly! A nice day here today.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:22:05 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Kathy,
How's your research going?
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:22:20 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Kind of at a stand still at the moment. Thanks for asking.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:22:51 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yes, We had sunshine in upper Ohio but it was still pretty cool.
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:23:03 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
What did you do with your day?
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:23:28 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Nice in Jersey today.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:23:30 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
I had a great time hanging out with the Klingons. They even put me in their group picture for 1999. Next year I want to buy a ticket and attend the dinner. I hung out with one of my high school classmates who is a freelance photographer and he is going to send me an 8 x 10 photo of a space shuttle liftoff he took!
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:24:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Actually, I went to the office to see if we could make better use of the space. Then went over to a friend's house for dinner. Good food and good wine---- a dry sauvignon blanc followed by some Klingon blood wine. I meant an Italian Barbera wine.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:25:48 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Teri,
So are those pesky birds staying away now?
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:25:59 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie, are you on? I'm here. Let's chat.
- async03-31.qni.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:26:15 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
A depressing subject...did you all notice that a Mauser was among the students killed in Colorado this week. I saw tonight they are having his funeral in a Catholic church.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:26:39 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh, Ho,
another Star Trekker heard from!
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:27:05 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I have the entire Hallmark ornament collection of Star Trek.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:27:48 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
No more problems with the birds. We also hung out some small foil pie pans, which do nothing for the professional look of our building.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:28:22 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Kathy has to be a person of good taste!
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:29:08 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Teri,
Were you still having problems after you put the plastic bags out?
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:30:04 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
My husband was mad when I bought the first one. I got them all for half price because I worked at a store that sold them. Now that he knows they are worth something, he doesnt get mad.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:30:42 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yes, we are all a little spacey! I have the Hallmark minatures and ewoks.
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:30:56 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Can't speak Klingon. Just mastered English and having trouble remembering German. They are some of my favorite aliens. Best this side of Kronos. Teri, maybe a Klingon targ would keep the birds away more permanently.
Holly, plowing through the Pollandl records. Much better than Nesseltal.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:31:01 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Hi-- wondering if anyone is going to Gottschee gathering in Franklin Sq NY
- spider-to071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:31:17 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Some of those Klingon costumes were so good. It was amazing just to see them. It was funny though, at the hotel across the street they were having a Lions club convention. Many Klingons stayed at that hotel too. Wonder what the Lions thought???
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:31:33 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Slow night. Well, I'll sign off. Auf Wiedersehen. Catch you all next Sunday. Let's keep praying for the sorry situation in Yugoslavia. There really are so many good things about that country. Us Gottscheers came from there!
- async03-31.qni.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:32:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Thanks Jim,
for switching to Pollandl. I was going crazy with those messed up Nesselthal records.
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:32:45 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
We had a staff person volunteer to bring in the foil pans so we put them up too.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:34:11 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Doreen,
Sorry that I am not going.
How about the Labor Day Treffen in Cleveland, Ohio. Anyone going??
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:34:19 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Jim, I would like to thank you again for all the help you gave me.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:35:24 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
I got started with the family tree because of last years meeting -- I missed but, my parents went.
- spider-to071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:35:35 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Holly, I thank you also.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:35:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Kathy,
We are just glad we have been able to help.
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:37:03 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
I'm going to the Treffen in Cleveland (on Saturday). My parents will be staying the week-end, they already have reservations. They are also going to Cleveland for the Gottscheer 4th of July picnic.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:37:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy, helping others out gives us some rationalization for the genealogy bug. It is nice to make a connection. Doreen, I may be going to the New York get to gether.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:39:01 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Teri,
What's up with the Gottscheer Picnic? I don't know anything about that? Are they members of the Club?
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:39:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Nesseltal is a mess but I still have a question or two left that I have been saving until you get your strength back from the last batch.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:40:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, don't worry. They could never have a picnic without you there. It wouldn't be official.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:40:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Kathy,
I gotta ask if your husband is interested in your genealogy?
Jim, my husband said that he and Linda would get along cause he is not very interested in what we do. (altho he said he could do some diving with you)
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:41:35 (GMT)
:
My father gave me a book to read about Gottschee. Its called "Das Jahrhundertbuch" Gottschee and its People Through the Centuries. Anyone read it?
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:41:43 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
I don't know the picnic particulars. I'll find out from my Mom tomorrow and send you an e-mail.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:42:01 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Hi Jim, just reading the log
- spider-to071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:42:52 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Are you talking about scuba diving?
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:43:02 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
You'll have to let me know what questions I didn't answer from the last batch. I just know I wrote "I give up!" across one of them!
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:43:15 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Have you talked with Mary Ellen Cox? She is definitley related to me
- spider-to071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:43:35 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yes Teri,
Scuba. My husband was certified last year.
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:44:10 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Doreen,
I read "Das Jahrhundertbuch" I loved the back of the book with the villages indexed. The map was my bible
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:45:53 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
My husband has always been interested in scuba. He has a mask and everything but he's not certified. He said he wouldn't have anyone to scuba with. I don't think I'm coordinated enough to breathe through a tube and swim at the same time.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:46:11 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I'm reading the book now.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:46:35 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Holly- I haven't read that, I'm hoping to pick up books at the june picnic.
- spider-to071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:48:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Scuba, I love. The Hundred Year's Book---- still having trouble with that one. Not the easiest prose. I may go back and give it another try. Mary Ellen Cox is my second cousin. I haven't heard from her this week.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:48:31 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Kathy,
I thought it was out of print??
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:48:41 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
my aunt gave me Gottschee: the resurection years
- spider-to071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:49:04 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
My uncle had a copy. When he passed away, my aunt gave it to my father. When my father found out I was doing our family tree, he gave it to me.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:49:44 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Teri,
I have a hard enough time with "snorkling" so I wouldn't be a good candidate for Scuba. We have a nice dive shop near us and they always have someone who wants to dive.
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:49:55 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Teri, try snorkeling first and then when you get comfortable, you can give scuba a try. It doesn't take much coordination. Linda doesn't like the idea of scuba but she will snorkel around to look at the fish.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:49:59 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Jim- I am going to e-mail Mary Ellen, her relative owned the bakery my grandmother worked at.
- spider-to071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:50:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The book is out of print. Never made the best seller list but maybe there is hope.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:50:39 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Thanks for the votes of confidence maybe I will get brave and try it one day.
Can't believe how fast this week-end went by. I'm going to say good night a little early. Holly- I will check on that picnic for you.
Have a good week everyone!
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:52:38 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Take Care Teri, and thanks.
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:53:43 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well gang,
I have Pollandl 19 Honigmans calling my name and I will have bad dreams if I don't finish up the names tonight. so I will say good night. Nice talking to you1
- ts3-p17.interlaced.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:55:10 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Doreen, my grandfather worked at and then owned a bakery. Could it have been the same one? The three Schauer brothers all had a piece of the business at one time. Holly and Teri, good night. If I can help on the Honigmanns, give me a call.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:57:25 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I have to go also. I have to be at work early. Bye
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 01:58:26 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
I am trying to piece it together now, I have a picture of my grandmother on the corner of Schaer Bakery-- I think Glendale, 1921
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:00:14 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
my grandmother worked there til she married in 1921, her parents lived in NJ
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:01:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Bye Kathy. Doreen, that must be it. The brothers were Philip (my grandfather), Edward, and Viktor. I never met my grandfather because he died in 1957 when I was one. Mary Ellen is Edward Schauer's granddaughter. I think your link is through the Sedler line while mine is through the Schauer side.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:06:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
You are Mary Ellen's 3rd cousin.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:07:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I will email her and see if she has a location for the bakery.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:08:01 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Jim-- yes, I come from the Sedler line. You sent me all my Schauer info, remember?
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:08:21 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Jim, Stepped away and did not leave quite yet. Saw Schauer. Have Schauer on My side also. Hermine Kump married Victor Schauer.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:10:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I remember. I was just trying to see if we had managed a link up directly but not yet. Mary Ellen is the common link. Do you know of any other Gottscheer relatives?
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:11:27 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Don't know backward, I only know forward
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:12:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I send a good deal of information out and I sometimes lose track. But it does come back with a little jog of the brain. Mary Ellen has some more information about her cousins.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:12:41 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
The only things I know about Victor Schauer is that he was born in 1901 and died in 1977. He had a son Henry Schauer born 1926 abd a daughter Lillian Schauer born 1933.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:14:35 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Jim-- I know how you feel, I send stuff out , look stuff up & forget what I did & didn't ! LOL
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:14:58 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Henry married Clare Meditz
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:15:16 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I know what you mean also. I've been doing this for only 3 months and I have a lot of papers. My father did it for 6 months beforre me.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:16:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy, I have his birthdate as 1/2/1904 in Oberwarmberg#8 of the Unterwarmberg parish. He married a Maltschi Staudacher.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:16:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy, Is this the same Victor? Where did you get that information? I know very little about Victor (even less than I do about Philip). Helmut Stalzer told me he was a partner with Philip in the bakery and may have owned a bar in Brooklyn afterwards.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:18:41 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Just going by information that my father gave me from his aunt Maria Stalzer and from Henry Schauer
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:18:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Doreen,
If that turns out to be the bakery, is there a way that I can make a copy of the picture? I have a macro lens and can take very nice pictures of pictures including enlarging certain areas of detail. Are there any other pictures?
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:20:05 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Everyone,
Hope everyone is doing OK! It has been a rough couple of weeks here in the Rockies. Between the two murders in Salt Lake and the awful massacre in Littleton. We also had a very awful wind storm here in Northern Utah that has done millions of dollars worth of damage. We being fortunate in minor damage to home and shed. All in we have survived it.
- proxy-335.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:20:06 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
The say that he was born in Niedermosel. He owned a bakery. He is now buried in St Charles Cemetery in FarmingdaleNY.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:20:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy,
Can you ask your Dad or Henry about Victor's wife's name? I always like to know more. Meditz is also a Gottscheer name. I wonder where that trail leads.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:22:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy, it looks like they aren't going to be the same but you never know. The wife's name would clinch it.
Hello, John. Glad to see that you have survived.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:23:41 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
He's away again right now. I ask when he gets back.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:24:08 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I remember. I was just trying to see if we had managed a link up directly but not yet. Mary Ellen is the common link. Do you know of any other Gottscheer relatives?
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:24:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
You are Mary Ellen's 3rd cousin.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:24:17 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Bye Kathy. Doreen, that must be it. The brothers were Philip (my grandfather), Edward, and Viktor. I never met my grandfather because he died in 1957 when I was one. Mary Ellen is Edward Schauer's granddaughter. I think your link is through the Sedler line while mine is through the Schauer side.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:24:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Doreen, my grandfather worked at and then owned a bakery. Could it have been the same one? The three Schauer brothers all had a piece of the business at one time. Holly and Teri, good night. If I can help on the Honigmanns, give me a call.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:24:21 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Kathy,
Do you have any long lost Kumps in Wyoming? My Grandmother was good friends with the Kumps near Shoshoni. The lived on what they called the Muddy Creek in Wyoming. I need to dig up the information if you think you might be related. I will be going to Wyoming and try to dig more up on these families. I think the wife was Maria Melz, but I can't remember for sure. She was from Zwischlern.
- proxy-332.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:25:25 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Holly also had Hermine and Victor married. Although it wasnt verified.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:25:50 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Jim-I can get a copy of the picture for you if you want.
Kathy- My Kump family is also buried at St. Charles cemetary, Farmingdale.
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:26:01 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
John, I far as I know, most of my relatives lived in Ridgewood, NY
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:26:55 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Doreen, I have others buried there too.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:27:23 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Kathy-- you mention your Aunt Maria Stalzer, my grandmother is Maria Stalzer, could you tell me what you know about her?
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:28:06 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Kathy- if you have dates I can go to St Charles and look up grave sites if you are interested
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:29:06 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
There weren't to many Gottscheer's in Wyoming, but they did live in the Shoshoni area. There were Eppich's, Melz', Herbst, and Konig's.
- proxy-332.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:29:45 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
It's my father's aunt. She was born in 1920 and married Adolph Kump. She is still living in Glendale Ny
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:30:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Thank you, Doreen. That would be great. I will reimburse you for any costs. Are there any other pictures of that time period. I guess all of our relatives came from the same areas of Ridgewood and Glendale. Do you remember the Koenig restaurant in Queens? That was my grand uncle's place. I go there every now and then for a solid German meal. It is now owned by others but they kept the name.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:30:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy and Doreen, it is the same Maria Stalzer. She was Doreen's grand mother and Kathy's first cousin twice removed.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:32:40 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Doreen, I do have dates. Friedrich Kump 4/19/89. Mathias Kump 1910. Adolph Kump 9/13/77. Hilda Kump Tscherne 5/20/73.Heinrich Kump 4/3/55. Franciska Sedlar Kump 12/26/44. Thanks
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:32:47 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Jim, I guess that makes Doreen and me related.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:33:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
According to my FTM file, you are third cousins. I did not have Adolf Kump's marriage. Who did he marry?
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:35:01 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Kathy,
Did you know Doris Yonke who used to live in Glendale or Pauline Herbst Yonke Petsche? Is it possible you could have known Rudolf and Yosefa Herbst Hutter who lived in Ridgewood?
- proxy-336.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:36:00 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
I am searching through all my papers for those names, they are all in my tree.
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:37:11 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
That would be Doris Yonke Snyder! She married a Robert Snyder. They have moved to New Jersey.
- proxy-331.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:37:27 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
My grandmother was born abt 1896, not 1920-- so its not the same Maria.
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:37:48 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
The Maria Stalzer I have was my father's aunt and she married Adolph Kump
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:37:54 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
John, I don't know any of those people.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:38:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy,
Those death dates are all from the same cemetary?? Do you have the birthdates? I only have some of them in the file.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:40:52 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Kathy,
They were very involved in the Gottscheer Relief Association for many years. I think also in the Gottscheer Hall if I remember right.
- proxy-338.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:41:18 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Hilda Kump Tscherne was the daughter of Franzisca Sedler & Heinrich Kump.
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:43:46 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
The are all from the same cemetery. Heinrich Kump was born 6/28/1863. His son Heinrich Kump was born 6/10/1896. Forgot to list some. Hermine Kump Schauer born 12/15/1897. Victor Schauer born 11/11/1901,died 7/28/1977. Hilda Kump Tscherne born 07/14/1801 died 5/20/73. Friedrich Kump born 2/15/1907 died 4/19/89. Adolph Kump born 2/3/1912 died 9/13/1977
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:45:05 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Franzisca was the sister of my great grandmother Maria Sedler.
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:45:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Doreen and Kathy--- I link you both up but it is from Doreen's mother, Maria Stalzer and tracking back to the Sedlers. I think the Sedlers are the link. The Maria Stalzer who married Adolf Kump may have been another person. Do you have any more information on that one?
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:45:28 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Have a good night everyone!
- proxy-336.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:45:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, John. Stay out of those windstorms.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:46:24 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Doreen, I have the same information.
John, Some relative, I think her name is Eleanor is treasurer of the Gottshcee Relieve Association.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:47:02 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Mary Stalzer is my grandmother. I have no info on where she was born but, what Kathy is saying matches my family tree
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:48:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I think everyone is on the same page. You have a common relative named Maria Stalzer but the link is from a generation back at the Sedler level. That makes you third cousins. Kathy, thank you for the birth dates. Did you get those from your family records or have you been hitting the birth microfilms?
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:49:51 (GMT)
:
Doreen I don't know anything about my great great grandmother's family. Her being Franziska.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:50:18 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I got the information from family records and family that is still alive.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:51:08 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Kathy-- I have to print this all out to look at what our connections are. I will look up the graves if you want. I will use the dates you wrote below
Jim- if you give me your address, I will mail a copy of the picture I have.
My e-mail is MeLLoCal@aol.com
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:52:07 (GMT)
:
Having problem with my e mail lately. So wait a little while. Can't get any help from bell atlantic. Trying to do it myself. If not I will be changing internet providers.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:53:27 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have got to go and get ready for another week at the job. Take care. It was nice chatting. Good fun sleuthing the link between the two of you. Doreen, please email me when you get the chance about the picture. I sent an email to MaryEllen to find out more information. Thanks and take care.
- spider-wn073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:54:03 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Bye Jim
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:54:36 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
bye
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:57:00 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Kathy-still on?
- spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:57:30 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Still Here
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:58:34 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
The more information I get, the more confused I get.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 02:58:56 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
me too-- I'm shuffling papers like crazy to find whos who-- I have Kumps on both sides of my family
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:00:06 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
I dont know how to download files so I cant just print out what I have
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:00:53 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
It's hard, The Maria Stalzer that marrried Adolph Kump, not Franziska sister, won't give too much information. Found out that Heinrich Kump who married Franziska was the son of a priest. Therefore she won't talk much
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:01:36 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I don't know how to download either. I just print them too.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:02:00 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I've only had my computer for about 6 months.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:02:37 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
OK-- starting with Franzisca Sedler-- she married Heinrich Kump
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:03:18 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Their children were Hernea, Heinrich, Adolf, Fredel, Hilda
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:04:00 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
The had 7 children. Heinrich Kump born 1896-1956, Hermine Kump 1897-1983. Hilda Kump 1901-1973. Josef Kump 1905-1983. Friedrich Kump 1907-1989. Mathias Kump 1910, died at birth. Adolph Kump 1912-1977
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:05:07 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
For further information, tell me who you want to start with.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:07:50 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
This is what I have from a relative (Ama Troje)Hernea m. Schauer, Heinrich had 2 children, Adolf had 2 children, Fredel had 1 child, Hilda m. Tscherne
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:08:41 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Heinrich had 4 children,one died at birth. Hermine had 2. Hilda is right. Josef had 1. Friedrich had 1. Adolph had 2
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:10:30 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hernea married Schauer and had 2 children.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:11:27 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
I know we are related its tough going back & forth through all my papers, e-mail me and I will send you evrything from the beginning. I have the Sedler family from abt 1774, which you are part of. names are alittle different but, it is the line.
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:13:03 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Where do you want me to start from and where do you want me to finish.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:13:55 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Next Sunday I will let you know if I fix my e mail problem and you can e mail me the Sedlar side
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:14:35 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
whats the first name on your tree?
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:14:51 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
is Eleanor your grand mother?
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:15:59 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Haven't verified all but I have Josef Kump married to Katherina Stonitsch. Son Paul Kump had 3-5 children one of which was Maria. This is not verified completely. All of the following is. Maria had a son Heinrich Kump who married Franziska Sedlar.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:16:26 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Eleanor was the daughter of Adolph Kump. She married Frank Zach
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:18:07 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
ok-- I have Franzisca b. 1868 in Reichenau who married Heinrich Kump
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:18:46 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Not good at what people are to me. I guess she would be some kind of cousin?
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:18:55 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I have the same. The had a son also name Heinrich
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:19:37 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Yes, they had a son Heinrich-- believe me-- I'm very new at this too!
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:21:20 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
He had three sons.Howard, Donald and Herbert
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:22:09 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
I dont know who Heinrich (the son) married.
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:22:19 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
The son Heinrich married Alberta Bolduc born 1895-1967
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:22:59 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
They were married in Chelsea Massachusetts according to Marriage license that my father has
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:24:14 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Her mother was Adelvine Fortin Bolduc,father was Edward Bolduc
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:24:55 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
He is buried in St Charles Cemetery(both Heinrichs)
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:25:42 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I won't be able to e mail you til I find out what is wrong. Can't get in. Keeps asking for NTTP server.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:26:39 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Still there?
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:29:09 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
ok-- so Franzisca b.1868 is the sister of Johann b. 1865. Johanns daughter is Maria b.1894. Maria married Edward Schauer in 1915. Their daughter was Eleanor b. 1920. Eleanor married Cox. You are their daughter. Did I finally get it?
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:29:58 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
My father was Donald Kump, son of Heinrich the son
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:30:57 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Is your brother Richard? Your Aunt-- Florence and Uncle James Harkins?
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:31:11 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
OOPS!!! I was going down the wrong line!!
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:32:16 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
I'm getting too confused!
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:32:44 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Only Eleanor I have married Frank Zach. She was born 1960. She was the daughter of Adolph Kump who was the son of Franziska.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:32:59 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I am getting confused with you.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:33:36 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Lets start again, is your grand father Heinrich Kump married to Franzisca Sedler?
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:33:47 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
He was my great grandfather.My grandfather was the son Heinrich.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:34:19 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Not old enough Heinrich that married Franziska to be my grand father
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:35:33 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
ok. I have Franzisca and Heinrich married & their children are (I know the names dont match exactly) Heinrich, Hernea, Adolf, Fredel, Hilda--any match?
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:36:28 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
The also had one more child. Josef Kump. Otherwise yes you are correct.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:37:24 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Names probably don't match exactly because of translations.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:38:03 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Hilda married Tscherne,Hernea married Shauer
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:38:19 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Correct
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:39:01 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hilda had no children. Hernea had two
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:39:59 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
thats as far as I go-- I don't have names for Hernea children, I have Hilda without children
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:41:35 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hernea's children were Henry V. Schauer and Lillian Schauer. Do you want more information about Hernea's siblings.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:42:25 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
I got that info from a descendant of Johann Sedler who was brother to my anscestor Maria and your anscestor Franzisca.
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:44:17 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I thought that they told you that Heinrich (the son only had two children)
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:45:20 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
yes, I'd like to know what you have
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:45:23 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
He had three children
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:45:45 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
I have a lot on this whole family but its alot to write out here. Do you want Franzisca's family backward?
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:46:25 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
His children were Herbert, Donald and Herbert. Donald and Herbert were twins.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:46:34 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I would like that very much thank you.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:46:56 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
It would help me in our connection.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:47:14 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
yes, I have only 2 children listed for Heinrich, no names
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:47:42 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Herbert was my uncle and Herbert is my uncle. Donald is my father.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:48:47 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
parents of Franzsica Sedler were Johann and Gertrude Eisenzopf
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:49:26 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
That part I have from Jim H. but that is all
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:50:49 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Johann b. May 17, 1836 Reichenau # 5. married Gertrude August 19, 1863
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:50:56 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Oops I also have there children listed as Johann, Maria, Franzisca and Magdalena
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:51:38 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Parents of Johann were Johann Sedler b. abt 1801 Warmberg #5 married Gertrud Tramposch on October 15, 1827
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:52:22 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I also have the birth dates of all of the children and whoe they married. I don't have any of there children.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:52:31 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Thats my line!!
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:53:01 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
ok we are on the same line
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:53:26 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I have Johann Sedler as marrying Maria Kump, MAria Selder marrying Anton Stalzer. Franzisca marrying Heinrich, Magadalena marrying Johann Stiene
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:53:56 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Parents of Johann Sedler are Mathias Sedler b. abt 1774 in Warmberg #1 married Agnes Stalzer on August 22, 1795 in Nesselthal parish
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:55:15 (GMT)
:
Gertrud Tramposch was the daughter of Johann Tramposch and MAria Loschke
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:56:19 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
You have a Maria Sedler marrying an ASnton Stalzer? What dates?
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:57:31 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Sorry met Anton Stalzer, not married
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:58:07 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Getting confused again.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:58:29 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
yes, thats my line, please tell me about maria marrying Anton-- thats my great garndmother
- spider-to031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:59:02 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Misread have has met not married
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 03:59:43 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Don't know why it has met.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:00:07 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
ok-- my great grandmother "met" Anton Stalzer, they had a child, thats my grandmother who I can not find a birthplace or date for. I know nothing about Anton
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:00:18 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I didn't know they had a child.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:01:06 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I look through papers and she what I can find.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:01:27 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Do you have a date of birth for Anton or a day they met & where?
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:01:56 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
No just have met. Jim H. gave me the inforamtion.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:02:48 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
I can hardly type-- I have looked for Maria Sedler & Anton Stalzer for almost a year!
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:03:08 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
oh, I have e-mailed him & he probably got that from me.
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:03:53 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Did you check with Jim
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:04:02 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
well, we are still related
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:04:54 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
yes, I met him through this board & our Schauer connection
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:05:40 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Yeah I couldn't believe it. I will search for any information I can on Maria and Anton
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:05:50 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Did you check with Kate Pruente
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:06:29 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
my grandmothers birthplace & date are the family mystery--LOL!
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:06:35 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
yes, I belong to the organization, thats how I got all the info I have but, no line on my grandmother
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:08:04 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I guess secrets run in the family just like my fathers aunt not telling me anything about Heinrichs(the father) father
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:08:14 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Have you ever ordered any of the books. I ordered one and wanted to know if they are any good.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:08:56 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I ordered the family book. Something like that.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:09:53 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
I have the Gottshee surname book, a book that tells you all the LDS films to order, a map, Nesselthal marriage disc. All are fantastic!
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:10:51 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
I would have never known where to start or look without the groups help
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:11:46 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I just sent in to become a member also. I hope they can help me get more inforamtion
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:12:23 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
that was the start of my obsession with the family tree!
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:12:30 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Its the BEST genealogy organiazation I have joined so far
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:13:40 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
My father started this. He quit when his aunt wouldn't give him anymore information. I started when I got my computer. Searched under Kump and found a lot of sites. Came across this one. Now I am getting obsessed. Now that I found a relative, I am even more obsessed.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:14:07 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Do you live in NY? There will be a Gottschee gathering in Franklin Square on Jun 6th
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:15:00 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I am also more obsessed because his aunt wouldn't give us anymore information.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:15:07 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I live in New Jersey.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:15:27 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
What day does June 6th fall on
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:15:49 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Not sure where Franklin Square is. Don't go to New York much.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:16:19 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
I think its great-- searching the tree. I spend TOO much time on it--LOL
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:16:19 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I spend too much time also. My husband hates it, my father loves it.(Me doing the family tree that is)
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:17:17 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Franklin Square is on Long Island-- I never went to a gathering, my parents took my son last year, all my son can talk about was the food they had!
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:17:37 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
It would be at least a 2 hour drive for me, if not more.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:18:20 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Are you going?
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:18:42 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
yes, I am dying to go and see what it is all about.
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:19:50 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I'll have to see what day it falls on. Maybe if I can get off work I'll go too.
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:20:33 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
my aunt, who is 71, used to go and then last year my mother wanted to know about the Gottschee people & decided to go.
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:22:03 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I really should sign off now. I have to go to work tomorrow. I was going to sign off about an hour and a half ago but then we got started. I talk to you next Sunday. Same time, same place. I try to look for more information for you
- client-151-198-133-195.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:22:15 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Please let me know if you go, it would be great to meet. e-mail me at MeLLoCal@aol.com. Please don't lose contact now that we met.
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:24:00 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
I will try to be on but, I work next Sunday night ( every other weekend). I will look up the log if I dont make it on. Nice meeting you.
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:25:49 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I will definately let you know.
- client-151-198-133-105.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:27:27 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
If you're not on I try again.
- client-151-198-133-105.bellatlantic.net - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:27:47 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
ok
- spider-to042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 04:28:56 (GMT)
someone:
is anyone here?
- ip221.pittsburgh5.pa.pub-ip.psi.net - Tuesday, April 27, 1999 at 23:29:16 (GMT)
Helen Laube:
My great aunt, Josephine (Sophie) Bartelme was married to a Kump. She was the only one in the family who stayed in Gottschee and married and had to leave during the second world war to live in Austria where she died. She was born in late 1870's. Does any of this ring a bell with anyone. I have pictures I would love to give someone related to her or her husband. Hel2@Juno.com
- proxy3.ykt.prodigy.net - Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 23:34:54 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello
- 113.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:05:37 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Anyone there?
- 113.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:06:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Kathy. Are you still here?
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:17:20 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hi Jim, I left for 5 minutes and came back.
- 130.newark-06-07rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:21:54 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Everyone,
Hope everyone had a nice Sunday!
- proxy-344.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:26:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, John and Kathy. I will be right back.
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:27:30 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello
- 130.newark-06-07rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:27:38 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Still there?
- 130.newark-06-07rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:29:43 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Jim,
I saw Kate Pruente on Wednesday. I took her out to lunch in Salt Lake City. She is here with her genealogy group for a week doing genealogy work. She has gotten a quite a bit done. She was working on Mosel the last time I saw her. She had another client that she was going to work on after lunch. We had a very nice visit and she was impressed with your work on the Oberwarmberg Parish. That is quite a compliment coming from Kate. She is a professional at what she does.
- proxy-345.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:30:00 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Kathy,
Where did your Kumps come from? I have some Kump families that I need to work on in Wyoming. They married distant relative of mine in Wyoming. They were all Gottscheer's. My one distant cousin was from Zwischlern and the other I think was from Altlag, but I'm not sure. Did you have any long lost relatives in Wyoming?
- proxy-348.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:32:43 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I put a lot of time into the marriage records. I became pretty good at the more common names but the names from Holzschlag still gave me problems. Also, Morscher and Mausser were difficult to keep separate. I think Helen Petsche has gotten them mixed up as well.
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:32:49 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
From the information I have most of my relatives settled in New York.
- 130.newark-06-07rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:33:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
John, Kathy's lines are mostly from Nesseltal.
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:35:08 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
John, Currently working on the Ebental records and putting them in the same Excel format. When I get closer to the end, can I pick your brain about some names? I have a ways to go.
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:36:24 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Jim,
The trouble with that Parish, the Altlag, and Ebental Parish is that there were some other nationalities mixed in. In Ebental there were the Slavic families like the Blatnik's and some Itallian families. In Altlag the same problem. I'm not real familiar with Oberwarmberg, but I suspect that there were Slavic families ever there. My uncle's family came from Langeton or Smuka as they later called it. The records seemed pretty well preserved and very accurate.
- proxy-344.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:37:40 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Kathy,
It is possible that these Kumps were from Nesseltal, but I'm not sure. My Grandmother was good friends with one of the wives. When I do some digging I will give you all a report. I was excited to find info on my Uncle Rudolf Hutter's line in Riegel. Riegel is in the southern part of the Altlag Parish. I was able to put his family all together and even found his Grandparents which was great. Rudolf was married to my Aunt Sophie(Yosefa) Herbst Hutter. The lived in Ridgewood, NY. Rudolf died almost 20 years ago and Sophie died several years ago.
- proxy-341.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:41:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The Unterwarmberg and Ebental records are a lot easier to follow than the Nesseltal marriage records. As I say to Holly, the priests were into the most, schnapps, or slipowitz because mistakes are all over the place.
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:42:07 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Jim,
You can probably use some of my files that I have sent you to compare. I will be happy to help in anyway I can.
- proxy-346.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:43:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
John, how far back did you get the Hutters?
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:43:34 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Vielen Danke, Johann.
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:43:53 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
John, most of my relatives were from Ridgewood, NY
- 225.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:44:37 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
I've never used the Nesseltal records, but I know the Gottschee Parish was terrible when you got back in to the 1700's. You couldn't even read some of the pages and so I really have lines that just drop off right there.
- proxy-342.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:45:11 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Looking through records and some of my relatives were from Ohio
- 225.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:49:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Cleveland and New York were two of the larger Gottscheer sites.
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:50:25 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
I think I got back to about 1844 with his family. I have films ordered in Salt Lake City. I don't usually order them there, but have to go back a couple of times this month and will stay to look at films. What's nice in Salt Lake is you order the films to the Family History Center at no cost. They keep them there for 3 weeks and send them back to there film center. I'm hoping to trace his lines as far as I can. I live 45 miles from Salt Lake and it isn't really very practical to go there very often. There is a lot of construction in the downtown which makes it a bear to ever drive downtown. With the Olympic's coming we have construction everywhere. Soon they will be working on a 10 mile stretch between Ogden and Salt Lake and I won't be going there very often.
- proxy-346.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:51:43 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Jim, I changed my e mail address. It is now q.milanojr@worldnet.att.net. If you should find anything.
- 225.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:55:10 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I think my records are from you because that is as far as I got as well. There are other Hutters in the area so it may be easy to link further back. Holly may be able to help.
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:55:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy, just drop me an email. I can then easily add your address. Been emailing both MaryEllen Cox and Doreen Cooney. I may see MaryEllen the weekend after Mother's Day.
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:56:49 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
My father didn't have anymore information for me. He told me to call his aunt Helen Stampfl Kump. If she will give me anymore information, I will let you know.
- 225.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 01:58:09 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
If I remember right his Father was from Riegel #6 and his mother was Riegel #1. Both had last name of Hutter. I think there may have been even more Hutter's in this small village. If I remember right Riegel was not very big.
- proxy-341.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:00:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Everybody!
I'm taking a break from cleaning up the kitchen after my husband's birthday dinner - at least until the dishwasher finishes this load. Summer has arrived here in Toronto (we skipped spring, as usual) and I'm already complaining about the hot weather.
- ppp5723.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:01:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am going to shut down a little early this weekend. My body is sore from working out and working outside. A double whammy. Had to trim the roses and start working the soil. I guess that is the farmer in my blood. Don't know how they did it with the poor conditions in Gottscheer. Have a good night.
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:02:41 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Bye Jim
- 225.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:03:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Ridy.
YOu are just checking in as I am getting ready to check out. Working on Ebental and will see if it gets your lines further back. How are you doing?
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:03:48 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Ridy,
I talked to my Aunt Doris(my father's sister) in Loveland, Colorado and she said that she found a picture of my Great-Grandparents in front of there house in Setsch #23. So I'm really excited. She is supposed to send me a copy of the picture and I'm really excited. It will be neat to see the house that my Grandfather was born in.
- proxy-346.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:04:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
John, I have been getting closer to some pictures of my grandfather. So far I have gotten his brother who was the proprietor of Schauer's Restaurant. Doreen is sending me a picture of the Schauer bakery in Brooklyn.
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:08:15 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Jim,
Goodnight!
Ridy,
It is not summer here in Utah. We have had rain and snow almost the whole month of April. It only got to about 60 degrees F yesterday and probably not that warm today. Lander, Wyoming where my Cousin Donna Herbst Brook lives got 51 inches of snow in about 48 hours time. It was a record. They got 28 inches in just 24 hours. Normally in Utah we would have had a few days of 80 degree weather, but we have been lucky to get into the 70's this Spring.
- proxy-348.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:08:36 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - I've been terribly busy this week and haven't done any more work transferring information on to my new Family Tree Maker. Now that the garden work is starting, I don't know when I'll find the time. But I will!
- ppp5723.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:08:59 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Goodnight all
- 225.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:09:50 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night Kathy. I will hang a little longer.
- spider-tq082.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:10:21 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Goodnight Kathy!
- proxy-343.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:10:25 (GMT)
Ridy:
John - I still have the photos of Setsch and Ebental sitting on my desk. Just haven't had time to get them photocopied for you. But I will - I promise... It just takes me a lot longer these days to keep my promises. Old age. . .
- ppp5723.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:11:07 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Ridy,
That's fine. When I get this picture from my Aunt I will send you a copy. Did you ever go to Setsch? I know you went to Ebental a lot, but I don't remember you talking about Setsch.
- proxy-343.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:12:55 (GMT)
Ridy:
John -
I don't recall ever going to Setsch, but then I don't remember all that much about my early childhood anymore.
Everybody always went to Ebental because that was the centre of that area (Tiefental, Kukendorf, Setsch and Ebental)
- ppp5723.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:16:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, how do you make the copies. I have a macro lens that I use to make copies of pictures. Most of them come out well. A lot of it depends on the lighting.
- spider-tq054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:18:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am fading fast. Good night again.
- spider-tq054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:21:10 (GMT)
Ridy:
I don't make the copies myself, Jim. I take them to a place downtown that does some pretty good work with colour photocopying. Once upon a long time ago I was into photography in a big way, but now my eyesight isn't good enough anymore.
- ppp5723.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:22:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
And my dishwasher just finished, so it's time to unload and reload once again.
Gute Nacht!
- ppp5723.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:23:22 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Ridy,
How is your family? Is everyone doing well?
- proxy-526.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:24:50 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Ridy,
Goodnight. Have a great week!
- proxy-527.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:25:18 (GMT)
Lisa:
Is there anyone who lived in Unterwetzenbach?
- linux1.bgbrg-kapfenberg.asn-graz.ac.at - Wednesday, May 05, 1999 at 10:55:05 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi everyone
- bsg-ma1-240.ix.netcom.com - Monday, May 10, 1999 at 01:32:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Probably a slow night. I hope Mother's Day was a good one for all.
- spider-to083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 10, 1999 at 02:30:35 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello
- 239.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 10, 1999 at 03:04:17 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
To all on line for plauderzimmer. With all the commotion for Mother's Day, I plumb forgot. Can't log on next Sunday. We will be in Scottsdale. Hope everyone is well.
- async04-108.qni.com - Tuesday, May 11, 1999 at 16:32:25 (GMT)
Helmuth:
Ridy, do you follow hockey? Your Maple Leafs and our Penguins have quite a playoff series going, 2-2 tie.
- gtwy.fishersci.com - Friday, May 14, 1999 at 14:32:18 (GMT)
Ridy:
Helmut -
No, I don't follow hockey - but I can't escape it either. I lived across the street from Maple Leaf Gardens in my younger days, and used to ogle the hockey players going in and out. My son has tickets to home games and he is very, very popular right now. Everybody claims to be his very best friend! My career as a hockey fan ended when I fell asleep during a play-off game years ago and was sent home in disgrace after the lst period. Everyone in Toronto has been told to wear blue and white, and I felt out of place downtown today in a black suit! Hey, but I wore a baseball T-shirt when we won the World Series - both times!!! My mother was the hockey fan in the family and she used to crack us up because she always yelled at the other team in Slovenian - much to my father's embarrassment - he was afraid somebody would understand the unladylike language she was using! So you like hockey, eh?
- ppp5686.on.bellglobal.com - Saturday, May 15, 1999 at 00:12:38 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello
- 87.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:00:16 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Kathy,
How's your research going?
- 207.170.156.40 - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:11:06 (GMT)
Mary Mazzoni:
Hi Kathy,
Did you get your membership packet from GHGA?
- cache.penn.com - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:13:06 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Mary,
How are you doing?
- 207.170.156.40 - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:13:33 (GMT)
Mary Mazzoni:
Hi Holly, Question- I have a great grandmother with two mothers, one in the familybook and a different one in the birth record. Can't find that her father was married twice. Any thoughts?
- cache.penn.com - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:14:54 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Kathy,
Is it anything I can look up?
- 207.170.156.40 - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:16:32 (GMT)
Mary Mazzoni:
I've gotten some good info on my cousin Hutter lines from Jim and J Herbst. That was a question I asked you about a while ago. Also got in touch Art Kresse and he's related to another cousin of mine.
- cache.penn.com - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:16:58 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
oops I meant Mary...
- 207.170.156.40 - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:17:05 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh, is it a Hutter relative?
- 207.170.156.40 - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:17:59 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Mary, I did get my membership package. Thanks.
- 147.newark-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:18:51 (GMT)
Mary Mazzoni:
Holly,
well, Maria Rothel from Leinfeld b.16 Oct 1832 has Maria Wolf in the birth film and Maria Sterbenz in the family book. Also listed are twins (again) brothers in 1840 by M. sterbenz. This Rothel family seems to have come from nowhere, and disappears again in the books that I have.
- cache.penn.com - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:20:17 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Holly, my research is at a standstill at the moment, but thanks for asking.
- 147.newark-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:20:29 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
My father's aunt is still living but won't give anymore help than she already did. Doesn't want to talk about it anymore because of Maria Kump.
- 147.newark-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:21:49 (GMT)
Mary Mazzoni:
This Maria Rothel is my grandfather's mother. They are a slippery bunch. I think I will have to dig up some marriage records, but I have to order the film.
- cache.penn.com - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:23:04 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Sometimes it is hard when they moved around. Didn't they know we would be looking for them????
Could Maria Wolf be widow Sterbenz?
What is the father's name? I will check my records to see if I can find them in Pollandl or Nesselthal.
- 207.170.156.40 - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:24:13 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Kathy,
That is so sad that your Aunt has all that info and won't share it cause it is too painful for her.
- 207.170.156.40 - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:25:59 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I don't think it is as painful as to her as much as it is embarrassing to her.
- 147.newark-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:26:43 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Kathy,
That is too bad that in this day and age someone could remain that old-fashioned!
- 207.170.156.40 - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:28:06 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Decided to try to do research on my mother's side but I'm don't know where my grandparents came from exactly.
- 147.newark-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:28:08 (GMT)
Mary Mazzoni:
It didn't look like she was a widow. there was no mention of M. Wolf at all. The father is Joseph Rothel, as far as I can see. I have the books from Leinfeld from the 1800's to the 1900's,and couldn't find any other listings.
- cache.penn.com - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:28:48 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
She should know that I don't give up easily though. I just won't let her know what I find out.
- 147.newark-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:29:07 (GMT)
Mary Mazzoni:
What have you been working on, Holly?
- cache.penn.com - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:30:11 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well,
There are alot of Rothel and Sterbenz names in Nesselthal and Tschermoschnitz. So I will re-check those names for you.
Do you have birth dates for Joseph or Maria (Maria's mother)
or from the Family book?
- 207.170.156.40 - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:33:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I have been working on Pollandl. Organizing the people into their houses and eventually I will add the death dates.
I still need to do some research on Tschermoschnitz but I have been busy with the nice weather and babysitting. I don't feel like being cooped up in a building for 4 hours.
- 207.170.156.40 - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:35:21 (GMT)
Mary Mazzoni:
Oh thanks! Maria Sterbenz b.5 Sept 1802, Joseph Rothel b.7 Jan 1794. I don't have one for Maria wolf because I only ever saw her in the birth records as mother. It seemed kind of weird because it gave a place of birth as leinfeld 31 or 322 and that's where my Eppich family was. (Forgive my slow typing tonight.)
- cache.penn.com - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:38:54 (GMT)
Mary Mazzoni:
Do you live close to the family history center? I got a closer one, but it's still about an hour's drive. Not crowded at all though.
- cache.penn.com - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:40:01 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Are you still there?
- 147.newark-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:55:55 (GMT)
Mary Mazzoni:
I'm here, but it looks like a slow night tonight also! maybe time to pack it in for the week?
- cache.penn.com - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:57:26 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I guess you're right. It's been a long day. My mother-in-law is in the hospital, so I've been spending a lot of time there.
- 147.newark-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 01:58:54 (GMT)
Mary Mazzoni:
Well, I think I'll sign off now,and maybe check back a little later. Hope you have a good week to come.
And good night Holly, wherever you got to!
- cache.penn.com - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 02:02:02 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Goodnight Mary
- 147.newark-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 02:02:52 (GMT)
John Sorli:
This is my first time on. If anyone lives in New York-Long Island area,there are many Gottschee films on Indefinite
use at LDS Family History Center in Plainview. There are
2 from Altenmark,about 22 from Gottschee,about 11 or 12 from
Mitterdorf, and at least 10 from Rieg. There are 3 or 4 people working on them. We are lucky they are letting us keep them there with limited space. So we need people stopping by to use them, so please spread the word.
- di64.nassaulibrary.org - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 02:54:57 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hi John
- 85.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 03:26:16 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Anyone there?
- 85.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 03:27:17 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Goodnight
- 85.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 03:27:51 (GMT)
Hilde Rom Sibley:
Hi! This is my first time here. Anyone knowing any information about my grandfather (Franz Rom) and his brother(don't know his first name) would be of help. These two brothers' surname was given by their mother's maiden name. Rumors has it that the father's name was Hauff all born in the City of Gottschee. Thanks. e-mail hilsy@atlantic.net
- bkvlfl-nc-1.atlantic.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 07:08:00 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there everyone,
I got kicked off the net last night and it wouldn't let me back on. Didn't mean to leave without a goodnight to all.
- 207.170.156.52 - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 11:27:31 (GMT)
Henry Persche:
Can anyone tell me the port of embarkation for Gottscheers going to America? I am trying to trace my family's journey. Thanks
- tcnet04-015.sat.texas.net - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 13:32:46 (GMT)
Ridy:
to Henry Persche -
What time-frame are you looking at? Before WWI? Between the two World Wars? After WWII?
- ppp1487.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 23:04:52 (GMT)
Henry Persche:
Ridy: My Grandparents came to America (New York) in 1907.
- tcnet10-042.sat.texas.net - Tuesday, May 18, 1999 at 03:39:26 (GMT)
Ridy:
Henry -
If you wouldn't mind sending me you e-mail address, I'll send you copies of the responses I got to my queries.
My address is ridy@sympatico.ca
- ppp965.on.bellglobal.com - Wednesday, May 19, 1999 at 00:49:45 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, everyone. Talk about day late and a dollar short!! I couldn't log on Sunday, so I'm catching up Friday 5-21.
- async03-108.qni.com - Saturday, May 22, 1999 at 00:43:06 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Wondered if any of you on line are going to Cleveland over the Labor Day week-end for the Gottscheer gathering?? Quite a number of us Jonkes from KCMO are going. Wish I could meet all of you there. AM really looking forward to it.
- async03-108.qni.com - Saturday, May 22, 1999 at 00:47:10 (GMT)
Richard Sider:
I wonder if there is any one of the older Gottscheers out there who might know the exact date that a tragedy happened sometime before WW1 when a wagon loaded with about 15 people was swept into the Kulpa River and all those people drowned. It Happens that my grandmother was one of those unfotunate ones.
She was headed back home to Hinterberg?????
- spider-wc073.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, May 22, 1999 at 21:35:01 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello
- 23.newark-36-37rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 00:55:10 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Kathy
- spider-wi033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:04:20 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
How are you?
- 23.newark-36-37rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:05:47 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Received the membership package and didn't realize that you live so close to where I am.
- 23.newark-36-37rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:06:12 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I finally inputted all my information on my Family Tree software. I have over 200 entries.
- 23.newark-36-37rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:07:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It takes a lot of time to put that information in but it does keep it in order.
- spider-wi033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:08:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy, I am in New Jersey. Aren't you in San Diego or am I going daft?
- spider-wi033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:09:37 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
When I start doing my husband's side, it's going to take a lot more time and harder.
- 23.newark-36-37rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:09:43 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I from Waldwick NJ
- 23.newark-36-37rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:09:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am going daft. Where did I get San Diego? Where is Waldwick?
- spider-wi033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:11:20 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
About 15 minutes from Paramus.
- 23.newark-36-37rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:11:44 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
You are close. I had a minifamily reunion last Sunday in Connecticut with six of your third cousins ------ Mary Ellen Cox, the Harkins, and the Riekerts. All related to you on the Sedler side. They are my second cousins on the Schauer side.
- spider-wi033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:14:25 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there,
How was your day today?
We had a mixed day. Cool one minute and hot another. It felt like it would rain but didn't
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:15:16 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I have a cousin in Connecticut. Used to live in East Lyme. How are they connected.
- 23.newark-36-37rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:15:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have been in contact with another cousin, Doreen Quinn Cooney who lent me a picture of my grandfather's bakery.
- spider-wi033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:15:40 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hi Holly, it rained here.
- 23.newark-36-37rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:15:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
What is the name of the cousin? Hello, Holly.
- spider-wi033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:16:08 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Rain, rain go away.
- spider-wi033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:16:35 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
My father is going to send me some pictures of my grandfather. He doesn't have any of his great grandfather though. He is going to asked his aunt if she will send me copies.
- 23.newark-36-37rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:16:51 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Diana Kump Benken.
- 23.newark-36-37rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:17:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Do you know her parents' or grandparents' names?
Holly, how are you doing?
- spider-wi033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:18:11 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Jim,
Working on a Kracker assignment.
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:19:03 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Her father was my uncle Herbert Kump and her grandfather was Heinrich Kump
- 23.newark-36-37rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:19:09 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
A very good evening to all of you. Hope everyone had a good week. I wasn't on line last Sunday. I missed it. I left a message on the log Saturday. People from KCMO going to Cleveland in Sept. Hope to meet all of you in person.
- async05-05.qni.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:19:26 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Good evening to you too.
- 23.newark-36-37rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:20:10 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Margaret,
I told my husband that we should go to this Labor Day get together. He didn't say no
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:22:10 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Everybody!
Jim - send the rain up here - we keep getting promises of rain but no rain!
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:23:13 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Ridy,
We got a great rain the other day and really helped us alot. We needed it.
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:24:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, can I be of help with the Kraker/ Kracker business?
- spider-wi022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:24:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
hello, Ridy and Margaret
- spider-wi022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:25:05 (GMT)
Ridy :
How is Marc, Holly? Gaining weight?
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:25:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
You are the Cause!
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:25:22 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
Tomorrow is the weigh in for Marc. He has 2 lower teeth now!
We call him "Drippy Lip"
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:26:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
How did I do that? Was it from one of my previous emails? I have sent you a lot of them.
- spider-wi022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:26:45 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
Altzheimers already? e-mail dated Sunday May 23, 1999.
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:27:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Oh that Kraker message. I thought you were working on one from a while ago. I do have dates for Georg born 8/3/1807 Kom#5 married 1827 to Maria Sigmund UWG#7 8/16/1808.
- spider-wi022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:30:45 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yes Jim,
That is what I was going to send you plus 2 sons.
Johan married Theresia Kraker. Andreas married Agnes etc.
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:32:11 (GMT)
Ridy :
Re Gottscheer Treffen in Cleveland during Labor Day weekend-
I'm definitely going - haven't been there since a Treffen in the mid-1950s; time to go again.
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:32:32 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Alright Ridy,
That would be great if we could all get there!
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:33:27 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well, Jim, Kathy,
What do you say? Labor Day in Cleveland??
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:35:16 (GMT)
Ridy :
Jim - I bet you could get some good Krainerwurst there!
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:35:57 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
So Johann belongs with Andreas Kraker and Magdalena Kraker. Anything about Maria Kraker born abt.1846 and married to Paul Petsche and Franz Mausser?
Kathy, are you still here? Diana Kump Benken, your 1st cousin, would also be third cousin to the Harkins's of Norwalk, Ct. . I am not "blood" related to either of you (yet). I have some Kumps in my family tree but no hook up.
- spider-wi021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:36:03 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I don't think I'll be able to. I might have to take time off for knee surgery, I know after MRI tomorrow. If I do, I won't have anymore time off.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:36:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Labor Day in Cleveland. I would have to check on the work schedule. Can you email me more information? I am planning to go the Gottscheer get together in Franklin Park, Long Island in June.
- spider-wi021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:37:36 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I didn't have Maria listed. I will recheck but I don't think I have that info.
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:37:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy, what is going on with the knee? Mri's are in my ballpark.
- spider-wi021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:38:24 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
How are Harkins related? I know Sedler side but which Sedler?
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:38:51 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Maria's birthdate is a good fit but her house is listed as Kom#19 but that is only where she lived at the time of the marriage but not necessarily where she was born.
- spider-wi021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:39:27 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Kathy,
Good luck on that MRI,
Yes, how do we get more info on the Treffen??
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:40:04 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Jim, my knee hurts alot, can't really bent it without pain.
Have to walk upstairs without bending it.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:40:10 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Thanks Holly for the luck. I'm more worried about the MRI then I am the results. The tell me they put you all the way in even though it is just my knee.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:41:27 (GMT)
Ridy :
Holly -
I'll check with a relative in Cleveland and see what I can find out -
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:41:39 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Thanks Ridy,
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:43:07 (GMT)
Ridy :
Kathy -
No need to worry about the MRI, as I'm sure Jim will tell you. It's the least invasive or bothersome of any test I've ever had.
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:43:29 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Thanks Ridy. Worried about being closed in though.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:44:29 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy, you will be just fine. 95% of the population have no problem with it. You are related through Johann Sedler born 1836. He is the common Sedler to all three branches. He is your 2nd great grandfather.
- spider-wi021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:45:15 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Thanks Jim.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:45:38 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Kathy,
Sometimes they give patients a relaxant when they are very nervous. The worse that can happen to you is that they will have to re-schedule you for the test again.
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:46:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy, do you have trouble with tight places? If you do, you might consider taking a relaxant like Valium before hand and having someone drive you there. That usually works.
- spider-wi021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:46:34 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
My husband is part of the 5%. He had one last year.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:46:51 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Never had a problem before. My husband and friends are making me nervous though.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:47:44 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Friends can be soooo helpful. Bet they told all the great stories about knee surgeries too!
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:49:53 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Aren't they though. My husband's knee surgery went great though. It only took about an hour.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:50:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
That's great about his surgery. How was the recovery? Rehab?
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:52:09 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Does anybody have any suggestions on how to research my husband's side when his grandfather stowed away on a ship.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:52:21 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
It was out of work for about a month. We have a rehab center about a block from where we live. He works at a high school and the trainer there let him use the whirlpool.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:53:19 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Kathy,
Naturalization papers?, did he get caught stowing?
Ship name?
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:53:53 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
It was his third surgery. Not with the same doctor. The one we have now is really great.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:54:05 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Holly, the problem is that we don't now the name of the ship or anything else. I'm lucky they know his name.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:54:45 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
He has one aunt that might know some things. She is my only hope. I have to at least try. It keeps him from getting mad about me spending so much time on mine.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:55:58 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
How about when he arrived? Where he landed? marriage record?
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:56:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy, you have to give the nonGottscheers some hope about their families or they think we are all crazy.
- spider-wi052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:57:01 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I had my ACL repaired and the surgery went well. Did not help me play basketball any better but, at least, it doesn't hurt anymore.
- spider-wi052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:57:49 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
None of those things. Like I said I'm lucky they know his name. His nieces and nephews (all 26) really want to know more about him.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:57:56 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy are you still lurking out there in the woods or did you sign off? how are you doing? Any gardening or outdoors stuff going on? How are the golfers?
- spider-wi052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:58:51 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Bah,
I bet none of us (genealogy nuts) are married to another one. It seems they don't run in pairs!
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:58:58 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Jim, all I really want is for it not to hurt anymore. It gets really bad when I sit too long at the computer. Since I spend almost of my spare time here, it hurst alot.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 01:59:12 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I think my husband gets mad because I'm always at the computer. I don't have a separate line, so when he calls he gets answer call. Leaves message: "I guess you are the computer, again(still)"
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:00:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Researching the nonGottscheer lines is so much different. On the Gottscheer side, the microfilms give us so much information that knowing the boats and ports is not that important. I think the aunt is the best bet. On my father's side, the family history lore had it that we came from Bavaria and, lo and behold, that is where one of the branches did come from.
- spider-wi052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:01:41 (GMT)
Ridy :
Jim - yes, I'm back. And yes, I've been doing some gardening. This is our Victoria Day weekend, and it's compulsory for all good Canadians to do their gardening this weekend! Can't get near most garden centres. But we need rain! The golfers are doing very well - no cancelled games due to rain so far this year! Yuck!
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:01:41 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
My father is really happy that I am working on this. He gave up when his aunt wouldn't tell him anymore. I guess I got my unwillingness to give up from my mother's side.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:02:00 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hey,
a hobby is a hobby!
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:02:55 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, you are right about that one. I wish my wife were more interested but I can understand. It isn't for everyone and we would then fight over the computer times. I do have two computers with separate phone lines. One is sometimes used for work and "oncall" nights.
- spider-wi052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:03:31 (GMT)
Ridy :
Kathy -
I have the same problem - most of my phone messages start: guess you're on the computer again.... so last week I got something called Internet Call Display. . . . and guess what? Nobody's called when I've been on the computer since!
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:04:15 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Jim it is really important especially now because so many of them are getting older. When we get old we get sick. Spent all week at the hospital with my husband's mother and uncle.
The aunt keeps saying we have plenty of time, but I'm not so sure.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:04:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, I did notice the Victoria's day on my Hallmark calendar. I thought I might get a day off until I realized I wasn't in Canada. Shucks.
- spider-wi052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:04:53 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Last month it was his father. Last year it was my father, aunt and his father all at the same time. All different hospitals. Two different states.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:05:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Get the information when you get the chance. I only have one person left from the greatgrandparent generation and the numbers left from the next generation are dwindling.
- spider-wi052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:06:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Kathy,
Yes, the time is now! I keep telling my Mother in law to get her photos labeled because when she goes there will be boxes of pictures with no names to go with them!
Unfortunately, non-Gottschee.
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:07:32 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I used to have an aunt that lived in Montreal. Used to spend my summers with my Uncle Herb. Don't remember here much though. Only that she was Aunt Bea. You just made me remember her. I'll have to check with my father about her.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:07:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am going to sign on with a different account so my wife can check her mail. Hope I get on.
- spider-wi052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:07:49 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I'm trying to get photos now from my fathers aunt and my father. I'm interested in seeing what they looked like. My grandparents on my father's side died before I was born.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:08:53 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I am trying to get information about my mother's side too. Unfortunately, nobody on that side is left. That I know of. My mother died over 20 years ago.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:11:06 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
It's so great to have the photos. They seem more real. Best to get the pictures now (or at least a copy of them)
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:12:03 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I won't have any problem from my father. He loves sending pictures to everyone. Whether you want him to or not.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:13:01 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Kathy,
It shouldn't be hard to get your Mother's info should it?
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:13:24 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I keep getting more and more obsessed with this. Been reading about Gottschee also.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:13:40 (GMT)
Ridy:
Holly - you are so right about having names put on photos;
one of my cousins and I spent hours going over old photos left by a relative, and simply couldn't identify some of them. Not yet, anyway. I must try to do that with my boxes of photos soon.
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:15:00 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yes Kathy,
I agree with you regarding the pull of the Gottschee.
I am related by marriage. I can't find the info I need from my side of the family so I adopted Gottschee as mine. I feel that my one relative came from there but I can't prove it yet.
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:16:26 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
The only thing I know about my grandparent on my mother's side is that they came from Stuttgart, Germany. Surname Kaehl, parents surname Muhleisen. Naturalized citizen in 1912. I have some a Tankard(stein) that the brought withm them. What a strange thing to bring with you.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:16:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Back again.
- 1Cust51.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:16:45 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
My father is really good at marking photos. Has alot of photo albums. I'm really glad he is like that.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:17:35 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hi again Jim.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:17:50 (GMT)
Ridy:
Thought we had lost you, Jim!
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:17:53 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
It is so sad when you go to a rummage sale or second hand store and see boxes of photos, Wedding pictures etc. with no name on them. I think to myself. Someone would really want those pictures!
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:18:37 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I spent last Saturday making copies of pictures for my father's side. The best pictures are in the possession of a cousin who was not there. I may give him a call or drop him a note. I would like to see my grandfather when he was younger on an old style motorcycle.
- 1Cust51.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:19:06 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
It makes me sad also. I would be really upset if my family did that.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:19:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have gotten a picture of my great grandfather on my father's side from Mary Ellen Cox. I am hoping to get one or two of my grand father but nobody knows much about him.
- 1Cust51.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:20:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
a stein....
ahhhh the true German!It probably belong to an older family member with lots of memories to it.
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:21:12 (GMT)
Ridy:
Pictures are incredible treasures. My mother wasn't very good at keeping photographs and when we became refugees photos were not a high priority for her at all. When I first received a picture of myself as a 5-year-old with my paternal grandmother from a relative, it was really the most precious gift!
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:22:02 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Holly, there are actually three of them. My father only gave me one of them. My husband collects them.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:22:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Having two computers gives me some flexibility but I may be getting displaced from this one when my daughter gets done with her work.
- 1Cust51.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:22:13 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Ridy, I felt the same way about the beer stein.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:22:55 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It must be a German thing with beer. My cousin wanted every picture of her mother with a beer in her hand. No stein though. Speaking of Stein's, where is Teri? Has anyone heard from her?
- 1Cust51.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:24:04 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I also feel the same way when I go to my father's and he gets me copies of pictures of my mother when she was young.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:24:29 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I'm hoping that my father lets me have the other two. Trying to find out more about them. They are number.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:26:20 (GMT)
Ridy:
I have to tell you another story related to pictures.
We could never quite tell whom my son resembles - until my husband was back in Wales and brought some old pictures a cousin had given him. I was very puzzled for a moment, wondering what a picture of Christopher was doing in that collection, and wondering why he was dressed so oddly -- until we realized it was a great-great uncle of my husband's
and our son is a carbon copy of him!
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:26:26 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Ridy, When we look of pictures of my brother and his son when they were about 7, they look exactly alike. You would think that they were the same person.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:27:37 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
When I get pictures, I make copies of them with my camera and a macro lens. I have an album going with the older pictures in there. The good thing about the macro lens (or scanner if you are doing it with a computer) is that you can enlarge or crop the picture to highlight details.
- 1Cust51.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:27:52 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - Christopher gave me a scanner for mother's day - but I'm still trying to figure out how to use it for more than just a photocopier. With all the gardening that needs to be done, I haven't had time to sit down and figure it out. But I'm anxious to learn, so I can put photos in my Family Tree Maker!
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:30:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am fading fast and have a busy week ahead. Have a good week.
- 1Cust51.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:30:42 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Bye Jim
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:31:11 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good night, Jim
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:31:31 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
Knowing how Christopher knows you I bet he made it as easy as he could. So put a picture in it, turn it on and press the scan button. That will probably load it to your file system. Let me know.
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:33:21 (GMT)
Ridy:
Think I'll call it a night, too. Bye Kathy and Holly - see you next week!
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:33:43 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Bye Ridy
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:33:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Bye Jim,
I agree that I too am zoning so I better say good night.
Take care everyone.
By the way Ridy, I went to that site you sent and spent a very good time looking at all the info!
- ts2-p22.interlaced.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:34:53 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I should go too. I have a long day tomorrow. We might be bringing my mother-in-law home from the hospital and I have that MRI thing. Goodnight Holly.
- 116.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:35:06 (GMT)
Ridy:
Holly -
That's what I thought, Holly; but he decided it's time mother learned how to read manuals, and I have orders to go through a couple of the excercises first before he'll teach me any more! He sounds more like me every day!
- ppp5715.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 24, 1999 at 02:35:51 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
To Jim and Holly, I know it is early in the week but I won't be around on Sunday because we are going to visit some friends. MRI was easy. Have to go for knee surgery though. Have a torn cartlidge. Thanks for making me feel better about the MRI.
- 154.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Tuesday, May 25, 1999 at 21:45:56 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
It is early Sunday. Might not get to log on tonight. Hope everyone is having a good 3-day week-=end. Would like to know if anyone is going to Cleveland in September??? My cousins and I are going. Hope to talk tonight.
- async04-125.qni.com - Sunday, May 30, 1999 at 20:50:00 (GMT)
John Herbst:
Is there any Gottscheer's out there tonight? Hope everyone is having a good weekend.
- proxy-394.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:10:30 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
Yes, although I haven't been here in some time.
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:20:45 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
I've been busy all day and when I thought of getting on line, time was already quite late.
I'm on the West Coast and all of our family are back East. We have friends here and we are planning on a barbeque tomorrow. We still miss family though.
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:24:10 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
Did you give up, John?
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:24:33 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Helga! Hi John!
We're having a heatwave up here - and although I promised never to complain about the warm weather again back in January, I'm getting close to breaking that promise!
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:31:01 (GMT)
Ridy:
John -
Christopher gave me a lesson on how to work my scanner this evening - and if I remember what I'm supposed to do, I'll finally be able to send you those pictures of Setsch.
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:33:49 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Anyone still there?
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:35:01 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Just got home from a picnic? Too hot here.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:35:34 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Kathy!
Glad to hear you had no problem with the MRI. When's the surgery?
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:37:18 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hi Ridy, The surgery is either June 19th or 21st. They're waiting for someone else to confirm 19th. At least I'll have about a month to spend with my godson.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:38:41 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
Hi, Ridy!
This is the first time I will have spoken with you via this medium! How hot is it? We have just recently cranked up the thermometer a bit around these parts.
And hi, John!
Where are you from? Where did you grow up?
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:38:58 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Ridy, Thanks you also for making me feel better about the MRI. They're going to do orthoscopic surgery. I'll be in and out in the same day.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:39:45 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
Ridy,]
Do you ever get a chance to talk with Hilda?
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:40:11 (GMT)
Ridy:
It's 10:40 p.m. here and it's still in the high 70s but it was in the high 80s earlier in the day.
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:41:53 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
It's hot here too.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:42:27 (GMT)
Ridy:
Helga -
I owe Hilda a phonecall. She and Louise called two weeks ago and I've had some brochures from Hilde this last week - but I've been lazy about picking up the phone. I wish they had e-mail!
Kathy:
How does your godson figure into the surgery?
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:43:46 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
His birthday falls around the same time I go for surgery. Also I don't get to see very much of him between working and other things even though he only lives about three blocks away. Since I'll be out about a month I be able to spend time with him.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:45:02 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
You know, I was born in Graz and grew up in New York. You would think that I would be a cold weather person. In fact, when I was little, I couldn't wait for snow and Christmas wasn't Christmas without snowfall. But now, I have come to develop an intense dislike for cold weather. And snow is something I prefer just to visit. One wonders what I am doing here in the Pacific Northwest. My husband who was raised in the South despises hot weather and loves it here. Actually we have quite mild year round weather and wonderful summers, but it does stay dreary for quite some time before spring decides to get here.
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:46:28 (GMT)
Ridy:
Kathy -
My husband has been complaining about his knee for ages - but he's a big chicken about any surgery, so he puts up with the pain. It can't be all that bad in his case, because it doesn't stop him from golfing! But it's amazing how simple it's become - several of his friends have had the surgery and they all turned out A-OK
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:47:51 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
Ridy,
Hilda is so good about calling. I feel guilty about not staying in touch as I should.
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:48:21 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Ridy They make surgury so easy now. My husband had it last year and he was ok to walk after two days. He couldn't go back to work for about a month though because of working on his feet all day. It will be the same for me.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:50:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
Helga -
You know we lived in Graz from May 1945 to September 1948. When I think of "Home" I think first of Graz! Where did you live? We were on the Schubertstrasse right behind the Studentenheim - within easy walking distance of the Hilmteich..... and I went to the Ursulinenkloster and my brother to the Lichtenfelsgymnasium. You were very young when you left there - have you been back at all?
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:51:08 (GMT)
John Herbst:
Hi Ridy, Helga, and Kathy,
The weather was beautiful today. A little windy in the afternoon. Expect rain tonight and tomorrow morning. Wyoming is looking at rain and possible flash flooding due to heavy snow that still lingers in the mountains. We are still in danger of flooding, but it is dissipating somewhat due to cooler weather in the mountains. We still can see large amounts of snow from our house here in Ogden, which is pretty unusual starting in June.
- proxy-378.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:53:51 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Here the weather is too hot. But I complain every year. It is too early to be this hot. I guess we will have a hot summer like last year. I will be poolside with my godson for at least one month.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:56:19 (GMT)
Ridy:
Kathy
Lucky you to have a pool! I just jack up the airconditioning - we go from heating to cooling almost overnight.
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:58:43 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Not sure what everyone has as a internet provider, but if you have AOL, there is a new virus around.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:58:44 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
We don't have a pool. We go to the town pool which is about two blocks from my house.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:59:29 (GMT)
John Herbst:
Ridy,
Are you doing anything with your family tomorrow? We aren't going to do to much. We will visit Linda's brother's family in Bountiful, UT. We are trying to find a place for Linda's family reunion, we are in charge this year. We think we have found a spot, but not sure.
- proxy-375.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 02:59:53 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
John, we are going to a barbecue tomorrow too. This barbecue started Friday and will end tomorrow.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:01:05 (GMT)
Ridy:
Those were the good old days, when I dared to be seen in public in a bathing suit! What was that song in "GiGi" -- Oh yes, I remember it well. . . .
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:01:35 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Ridy, Most of the people at our pool don't care. You shoudl see some of the things people wear.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:03:27 (GMT)
Ridy:
We don't have the Memorial Day holiday in Canada -- we had Victoria Day (as in the long departed Queen Victoria) last Monday.
I'm trying to get all the Hoeglers to go to the Gottscheer Treffen in Cleveland over the Labor Day weekend. Hilda and Louise may go, Helga.
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:03:52 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
Ridy,
I can remember my address (Flurgasse 27) and anecdotal incidents. The places you mention sound familiar to me. We lived in the Barracken since it was after the war and came to America December 5, 1955. I was five, almost six years old when we moved to Ridgewood. Der Ostbahnhof war nich weit von uns. Aber alles ist ganze anders jetzt. I have been back a couple of times. I'd love to go again. How long were you "im Kloster?"
So, John, you're in Wyoming. Gottscheers are everywhere, aren't they. I always thought Ogden was in Utah.
Hi, Kathy.
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:04:43 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Ridy, My husband and I would like to go but we can't because I will already have too much time off. My boss isn't happy when I take vacation as it is.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:04:57 (GMT)
John Herbst:
Kathy,
Is it a traditional family get together or some other type of party? My wifes family is close enough that we can get together fairly often. We only live about 3 hours from them. My family is about 350 miles and it take from 6-7 hours usually. We have to travel over two mountain ranges to get there. The roads are pretty nice in summer, but winters in Wyoming aren't to nice for travel and we avoid going there unless someone dies.
- proxy-377.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:05:16 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hi Helga
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:05:23 (GMT)
Ridy:
Kathy -
I always warn my brother-in-law that if I come to swim in their pool they have to lower the waterlevel, or they'll lose half the water in the pool when I flop in! They have a high fence around the whole pool area.
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:06:00 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Unfortunately it isn't a family get together. It is friends of ours. My husband's family all live within ten minutes of us. My father is about 45 minutes away, my brother is about 4 hours and one of my uncles is about 24 hours of straight driving.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:07:27 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Ridy, your brother-in-law would have to do the same kfor me too.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:08:15 (GMT)
John Herbst:
Helga,
To clear this up. Ogden is in Utah. But I was raised in Wyoming and so I keep up with what's going on there. All of my family lives there, so we spend some time there. Sorry I confused you.
- proxy-377.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:08:40 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
John, the good thing about our picnic is that its about 4 - 5 blocks away so we walk there. Have to get exercise somehow to work off all the food and drink.
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:10:08 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
If anyone know someone that has AOL make sure to tell them about the new virus. Shows up in e mail as "America Online year 2000 update"
- 30.newark-16-17rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:11:41 (GMT)
Ridy:
Helga -
I had an aunt who lived in the Fluechtlingslager in Graz and that must have been the same place -- their name was Schleimer and they live in Kitchener now. There was also a cousin of my mother's -- Lise Jonke, I think her name was -- she lived there forever.
I went to school at the Ursulinen - almost 3 years - but I stayed there several times when I've been back while my 'Housemother' was still alive. I loved it there. But I haven't been back since 1988 -- too long.
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:11:46 (GMT)
John Herbst:
Did the Gottscheer's have picnic's in Gottschee or something like them or was it mostly festival type gatherings? I remember my Grandfather Herbst loved to go on picnic's in the summer and we would go to Copper Mountain in Wyoming for picnic's. Just wondered if Gottscheer's enjoyed that kind of stuff.
- proxy-371.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:13:04 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
Hey, Ridy,
Are you related to my Tante Pauli's husband. She was married to a Hoegler. She would have been my Mother's half sister? Now I think you are related to Hilda on her mother's side, whereas I am related to her on her father's side (Her father was my grandfather's brother.).
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:13:21 (GMT)
Ridy:
Helga -
We were related to two Paula Hoegler -- one, who lived in Cleveland, died earlier this year. And there's also Paula
Hoegler, who was married to my uncle Alfred - they had two sons, George and Bill, and they also lived on Bleeker Street many years ago - -
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:16:42 (GMT)
Ridy:
John -
The Gottscheers used to have a Jahrmarkt - I think each village had one - and it was tied in with the Saint's Day of whatever Saint the village church was named for... I think that's how it worked.... it was on a Sunday and it was something along the line of a street fair, except that it was church-related and included a High Mass and procession and lots of celebrating afterwards. I still remember the Kirchtag, as it was known, in Ebental in 1941! I was given some Dinar and was allowed to wander from stall to stall and buy candies and cookies and I think I also bought a jumping-jack! The lady who took me around to all the stands still lives in Kitchener now and I love to remind her of our adventure all those many years ago!
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:22:04 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
John,
Thanks for clearing up the confusion about Ogden. We used to camp in western Wyoming. What part of Wyoming are you from? I don't know about Gottschee, but I do remember growing up in Ridgewood and as soon as good weather arrived there was an abundance of picnics--from Sunday outings to organized Gottscheer picnics similar to Gottscheer Treffen (biggest one I remember was held annually in Franklin Squarem, Long Island).
Ridy,
It's been a long time since I have been in Graz itself. I would absolutely love to visit again. I was in Austria a couple of years ago with some students on an EF Tour which alas did not cater to individual excursions.
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:25:07 (GMT)
Ridy:
Just realized what time it is! Time to call it a day -
Gute Nacht, everybody! Thanks for chatting! Enjoy your holiday weekend!
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:25:12 (GMT)
:
Goodnight Ridy,
- 222.newark-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:26:00 (GMT)
John Herbst:
I hope that one of these times we can get the money together to go to one of the Treffen's. Do you know when the next one will be in Milwaukee? It seems that there is one in Milwaukee. The problem is that we really don't have any family that still lives in any of these area's that we feel comfortable staying in. One day we will make it. I really want to learn more about the culture and the only way to do that is to participate in something like that.
- proxy-371.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:27:35 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
Ridy,
I think that Paula Hoegler is the same person as my Tante Pauli, except I think they lived on Putnam Avenue. Maybe they lived on Bleeker Street before that. I never knew her husband, but her son's names ring a bell.
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:29:06 (GMT)
John Herbst:
Helga,
I grew up in a little town of about 900 people called Shoshoni. If you went to Yellowstone you may have went through it. They have a place called the Yellowstone Drug and they have the most wonderful milk shakes and malts you could ever taste. Western Wyoming is a very large area. Where did you camp there? Shoshoni as almost directly in the center of the state. It is about 32 miles south of Thermopolis and about 100 miles west of Casper.
- proxy-374.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:31:42 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
Well all you sleepy heads, I guess there is an advantage to being on the West Coast--we get to tuck everyone else in.
Good night, all--
Gute Nacht und alles Gute! Bis bald. Bleibt gesund!
Helga
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:32:23 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I guess I'll call it a night too. Hope to see you next week.
- 222.newark-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:32:37 (GMT)
Ridy:
Helga -
Just checked back again-
My Tante Pauli was Hilda Koenig father's sister -- same person? I met her just once - at one of our Hoegler Family Reunions in Vermont about 9 years ago.
- ppp5791.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:32:54 (GMT)
John Herbst:
Goodnight All.
- proxy-374.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:34:17 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
John.
We've been to Lander which is about 45 miles southwest of Shoshoni. We have camped all the way from Lander to DuBois to Moran Pass and beyond. It brings back fond memories--the kids were little and we were YOUNGER! We remember when all the roads in West Yellowstone, Montana were dirt. My husband, Mr. Geography kibitzing in the background, is reminding me. He loves western Wyoming.
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:37:01 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
Ridy--
Are you sure?
Pauli was my mother's half-sister. I'm almost certain.
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:39:09 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
Ridy,
I'll check with my Tante Poldi.
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:40:28 (GMT)
John Herbst:
Helga,
Shoshoni was a great stopping off point from Casper because it is such a desolate drive from Casper to Shoshoni and most people are just happy to find civilization by the time they get there. My cousin Donna Herbst Brooke lives in Lander and has for the past 3 or 4 years. Her mother came from Hohenberg, her mother is Joan Konig Herbst. Joan was raised by her step-father Franz Herbst my Grandfather's brother. Joan married my Dad's brother and so you can see the Herbst of Wyoming like to keep these things in the family. Anyway it is interesting how families get mixed up.
- proxy-376.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:43:17 (GMT)
Helga Dudley:
John--
Thanks for the info. Your family tree is hurting my brain. I don't know whether to climb it, shake it, or marvel at the fruits. Now who was who again? It must be getting late--I'm getting silly.
Enjoyed chatting. I'll try to tune in next Sunday. Gotta do school work for now (I'm a teacher of young middle school minds thirsting for knowledge). Auf wiedersehen from the mountains of southwest Oregon.
- 2ip50.rvi.net - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 03:54:26 (GMT)
Herb Mausser:
Hi everyone! I look forward to reading the Plauderzimmer log every week, but I only have Internet access at work so I haven't been able to participate. I noticed that several of you have mentioned coming to Cleveland for the Treffen over Labor Day. I'm involved in the planning, so I'll be happy to provide information to anyone who'd like it. I really encourage you to try to attend - we get hundreds of people from the Cleveland area, plus busloads from New York, Milwaukee, Kitchener, Toronto, etc. You never know when you'll bump into a long-lost relative! You can e-mail me at herbert.mausser@tri-c.cc.oh.us for info, and as we get closer, I'll try to post the basic info on the bulletin board and in the Plauderzimmer. I hope to see all of you over Labor Day weekend in beautiful Cleveland, Ohio!
- 141.110.192.69 - Tuesday, June 01, 1999 at 19:36:47 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Herb - Thanks for the update. I'm planning on attending the Treffen on Saturday. I look forward to hearing more about it on the Plauderzimmer.
- hoard.cache.thenap.net - Wednesday, June 02, 1999 at 02:01:18 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Herb Mausser: Thanks for letting me know you are helping to plan the treffen in Cleveland. Look for a fairly large group of Jonkes/relations to come. My email is buster@qni.com. My cousin Carolyn Jonke Martin is our group co-ordinator. Unfortunately, she does not have a computer. I will pass along info to her. Thanks again.
- 209.126.31.65 - Sunday, June 06, 1999 at 17:18:55 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello
- 213.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 00:56:56 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Good evening to you all. Hope everyone had a super week. Anxious to hear all the new things/relatives you have looked up.
- async01-54.qni.com - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:12:51 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello Margaret
- 213.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:14:05 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I've been working on my grandmother's side. Found out she had three sisters, I know that at least one was from Canada.
- 213.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:15:17 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Kathy and Margaret -
Where in Canada was your great-aunt? There are some Kump's in Kitchener.
- ppp1522.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:19:17 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
My grandmother was born in Livermore Falls. My great Aunt Beatrice Chabot lived in Montreal.Hi Ridy
- 213.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:20:31 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi everyone!
- 125.ft-lauderdale-03-04rs.fl.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:23:57 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hi Eduard
- 213.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:24:34 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie!! Long time no email. Glad you logged on. I tried sending you email at your correct address. Anxious to hear how you like New Hamp. Hope Nancy and Krista are well.So what else is new?
- async01-54.qni.com - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:25:32 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
It has been awhile since the last time I was in the Plauderzimmer.
Hello Margie! I know you have been trying to email me. I haven't been checking it for quite awile.
- 125.ft-lauderdale-03-04rs.fl.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:26:23 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Margie> try edspalm3@worldnet.att.net. NH is nice. Nancy and Krista are both still in Florida. They are waiting for our house to close.
- 125.ft-lauderdale-03-04rs.fl.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:28:52 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Getting late. Hoped to talk to you, Eddie. Will hang on a few more minutes. You can email me at home. Have a nice time in New Hamp.
- async01-54.qni.com - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:37:52 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Ridy is it hot in Canada today.
- 213.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:37:54 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Goodnight!
- 125.ft-lauderdale-03-04rs.fl.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:40:07 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie: You finally got on! Glad you like New Hamp. Hope Nancy and Krista like it, too. I guess you heard about the treffen in Cleveland -Labor Day. Do you think you can go? We have quite a group from KC going, thanks to Carolyn.
- async01-54.qni.com - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:40:34 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Anyone still there?
- 213.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:44:58 (GMT)
Ridy:
Sorry I had to leave for a bit -
Oh yes, Kathy - it's hot and humid today. In fact, we have something called a humidex advisory -- although you don't need an official advisory, all you have to do is open the door. Not fair, is it -- in the winter it's too cold (for me) to spend much time outside and in the summer it's too hot. I'm an expert complainer.
- ppp5808.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:52:00 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I complain a lot about the weather too. I only like Fall and Spring, not too hot, not too cold.
- 19.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:54:25 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
It was hot here today also. Tomorrow is suppose to be even hotter.
- 19.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:54:56 (GMT)
Ridy:
Do you do gardening, Kathy? I still have a bit left to do-
later than usual, this year. Just getting more and more lazy.
- ppp5808.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:56:21 (GMT)
Ridy:
We got up into the 90s today, and it looks the same for the next 5 days, I think. The humidity makes it feel like 100+ which isn't fit for man or beast.
- ppp5808.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:58:00 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I like gardening but we live in an apartment so it is small. We have something like a porch on our roof. I use pots for tomatoes.
- 19.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:58:06 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
We are suppose to be in the 90's tomorrow. I work in a deli and it's really hot in there because of the grill. Especially if we have a lot of catering orders.
- 19.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 01:59:09 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Do you have a big garden? I like tomatoes because I make my own sauce with them.
- 19.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 02:02:06 (GMT)
Ridy:
I'm trying to get my daughter interested in planting tomatoes in pots on her balcony - she lives right downtown Toronto - but no luck so far. She says they'd be too dusty to eat!
- ppp5808.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 02:02:09 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I live on a main street and my tomatoes don't get too much dust. What they do get washes off easily.
- 19.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 02:03:01 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
My balcony isn't really a balcony though. You have to climb out a window to get to it. It's really kind of the roof with 4 foot edges. My neighbors have the door to go out. They have pots on the roof also.
- 19.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 02:04:28 (GMT)
Ridy:
I have mostly flowers in the garden - just a few herbs and no vegetables. We have a lot of shade, so vegetables wouldn't do so good. But my husband has a plot near his office and he only plants vegetables. Guess what I was doing in this heat? Baking! I felt like baking today -- so I can relate to what it feels like in a deli! But that's what we have airconditioning for - right?
- ppp5808.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 02:05:54 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Air conditioning is great when it works. The one we have at work doesn't work quite well right now. I was using my oven today also. I make homemade baked beans. My husband loves them.
- 19.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 02:07:22 (GMT)
Ridy:
My dishwasher just finished it's last load - and it's time to get back into the kitchen before I call it a day. Have a good week, Kathy! Good night!
- ppp5808.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 02:09:16 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Goodnight Ridy.
- 19.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 02:09:50 (GMT)
Herb Mausser:
More info on the Treffen in Cleveland this Labor Day weekend. The "official" hotel is the Cleveland Marriott East, about a fifteen minute drive from the EOUV Club. We've negotiated room rates, which are US$79.00/night for up to four persons per room! Call them directly at (216)464-5950, or world-wide reservations at (800)228-9290 and ask for the EOUV group rate. Additional information is available at the Cleveland Marriott East Web site (marriotthotels.com/CLEEA).
The Treffen package itself, which includes all admissions, the welcome breakfast/brunch on Saturday, Saturday dinner, the Sunday banquet, and the farewell breakfast on Monday is US$55.00. To make a reservation or for more info about the Treffen schedule itself, please e-mail me (herbert.mausser@tri-c.cc.oh.us) and I'll put you in touch with the proper persons. Hope to see you all in Cleveland in September!
- 141.110.194.105 - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 19:50:33 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
I, everybody. Glad to be on line with you. Hope everyone had a good week.
- async01-108.qni.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:04:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Margaret,
Hope everyone has had some cooler weather, we haven't!
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:11:02 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Herb Mausser: Are you by any chance related to Frank Mausser who lives in Ridgewood in NY? There is a lady coming to the Treffen in Cleveland, Marie Wolf, age 87, whose name was Mausser. Might be a more common name than I thought.
- async01-108.qni.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:13:49 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Holly. Getting down right chilly in KCMO. A cold front is going through. But we don't complain after the heat and humidity last week. Thanks for asking.
- async01-108.qni.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:16:43 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Everybody! We're still sweltering in Toronto, but they promise that cool, cleaner air is on the way.
- ppp1282.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:17:55 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yes, they predicted that we were going to get colder weather possibly 65 at night. Seems hard to believe after all this heat. Glad to hear that it IS coming.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:18:57 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Ridy,
How's everything.
We went to a nice Car show where they close one of the streets of the town and let the old cars cruise it for charity. It was alot of fun.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:20:58 (GMT)
Ridy :
With a bit of help from Joe Hogler, we've found another Hoegler relative. Haven't quite figured out how close the relationship is, but the family lived across the road from us in Kukendorf. Exciting, to put it mildly - even if they do live in far-away Vancouver.
- ppp1282.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:21:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Wow Ridy that is really great.
I love finding more relatives. I especially love the LIVE ones!
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:24:15 (GMT)
Ridy :
Holly - we have some old car afficionados (?) right here in the neighbourhood, and they bring the cars out for parades or weddings.... interesting!
- ppp1282.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:25:07 (GMT)
Ridy :
Holly - are you doing any research now? I am getting marginally better at it - but it ain't easy!
- ppp1282.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:26:36 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
My husband is a car fanatic. We have 6 old cars. They all run and one in pieces.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:29:00 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yes, I am still working on the Pollandl records and trying to find some death dates that I have not entered into my records. (I dislike doing the death dates for some reason, so I always do that last)
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:30:44 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
You did get the family tree maker right?
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:31:24 (GMT)
Holly:
Yes - I got the Family Tree Maker.
I love all the extras on it, especially the scrapbook. It was all the reason I needed to learn to use the scanner
- ppp5743.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:35:27 (GMT)
Ridy:
That was interesting! I was typing a message to you, Holly, and neatly erased my name and put in yours! Alzheimers or old age - have your pick!
- ppp5743.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:36:23 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
It took me years to decide which system I wanted. I was just using the PAF which is great for storing records but I love the family tree maker.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:37:16 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Right now I am working on Family Books of the Stalzer side of the family. I will have it finished for Gus's birthday on Friday. He is Aurelia's brother. Also born in Pollandl.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:39:57 (GMT)
:
what I haven't figured out yet is how to send specific pages of information when you don't want to send the whole file -
and Christopher is overseas again...
- ppp5743.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:42:25 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Is he still in London?
That's not to hard regarding what to send.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:43:43 (GMT)
Ridy:
Holly -
have you made your reservations for Cleveland in September?
- ppp5743.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:44:23 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Not yet. But, we are going.
We don't need to stay overnight as we live about 50 miles away.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:45:52 (GMT)
Ridy:
He's out in the boonies - a place called Felixstowe (I don't even know how to spell it) near Ipswich - that's where they have their research labs. London he would not mind, but there is nothing to do where he is and he says the TV is best when it's turned off - unless you like cricket or soccer.
- ppp5743.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:47:19 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
What??!! No Pubs???
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:48:15 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
What about you? Did you get your reservations yet? Where are you going to stay?
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:49:00 (GMT)
Ridy:
Yeah, you're right - there are probably some pubs around somewhere; he just doesn't tell me about those!
- ppp5743.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:49:40 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hi everyone
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:49:46 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guess I will say good night. Eddie Stalzer, were you on tonight?? Waiting to hear from you. Hoping to meet some of you in person, when our group goes to Cleveland. Auf Wiedersehen.
- async01-43.qni.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:49:47 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Kathy,
Goodnight Margaret. You will have to let us know where you will be staying so we can meet.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:50:52 (GMT)
Ridy:
Yes, I've reserved rooms at the Marriott Hotel that Herb Mausser suggested. My sister Hilde and sister-in-law Marianne are definitely coming, and we're still working on my youngest sister, Elfie.
- ppp5743.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:50:57 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good night, Margaret! Hello Kathy! How's the knee holding up?
- ppp5743.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:51:58 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Friends of ours are going to Ireland for the month of August. and she has promised to visit as many pubs as she can.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:52:14 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Thanks for asking. I'm hanging in there. I only have one more week to go. Can't wait to get it over with.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:53:05 (GMT)
Ridy:
That reminds me of a joke you sent me about the Irish twins or was it 3 Irish brothers?
- ppp5743.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:53:32 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Ridy, How's the garden coming along?
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:53:46 (GMT)
Ridy:
Kathy -
I seem to recall that you live upstairs -- how are you going to manage after the operation?
- ppp5743.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:54:27 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
One more week? It seems like forever when you're waiting for something.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:55:02 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I have 22 steep stairs to go up actually. I guess I just take them one at a time like I have to now. It will probably hurt more at first though.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:55:45 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy yes, the twin brothers! That was a great joke.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:56:18 (GMT)
Ridy:
Kathy - I've done all I'm going to do in the garden this year -- except water it. The roses are blooming and a lot of the other flowers have come and gone. I almost never cut them to bring them inside - I like to look at them outside.
- ppp5743.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:56:37 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
It definately seems like forever. Can't wait though. My boss hired a new person who I can't stand to work with to cover when I gone. Otherwise he would be by himself.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:56:56 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I love roses. I like them better outside too.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:57:27 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Kathy,
If all else fails, you can schooch up backwards with the knee extended and a pillow on your bottom.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:57:39 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Holly that would be funny. My neighbor would like that.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:58:35 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well, we all agree on the flowers. I love to watch them grow.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:59:40 (GMT)
Ridy:
Holly - that's how a friend of mine was taught to do it -- easy to see you're a nurse! And a good one, I bet.
- ppp5743.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 01:59:47 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Good thing my neighbors are only there doing the day. It's an office across the hall. It makes it nice at night because you don't have to worry about noise. Speaking of pubs, we live almost directly above a bar.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:00:53 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hey Kathy,
Whatever works for you. When you are standing at the bottom of 22 steps, you think about it.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:01:08 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I'll make sure I bring a pillow with me just in case.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:01:57 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Good Girl,
Yes Ridy, I enjoyed it while I was working but I love staying home and taking care of Marc.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:02:52 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Holly, I've been getting really good at going up without bending my knee to much.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:02:54 (GMT)
Ridy:
Kathy -
That reminds me of a time in the early 1960s when Hilde and I were visiting Vienna (my one and only time) and after we checked into our Pension we discovered we were on top of the Playboy Club! Interesting! We only found out after we asked about all the gentlemen having keys to the place downstairs!!!
- ppp5743.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:03:50 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Ridy, Good thing it's only a small bar. Mostly older peope go there. Not many younger ones. It makes for less trouble that way.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:05:26 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Ridy, Good thing it's only a small bar. Mostly older peope go there. Not many younger ones. It makes for less trouble that way.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:05:27 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
The bar opens at 8:30 in the morning. I'll never understand how people can drink that early.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:06:36 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Kathy,
That is good as you are really building up those muscles in that other leg that you are going to need.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:07:15 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Wow, does the bar serve a breakfast? I mean, besides Booze?
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:08:43 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Holly, I guess that is why the other leg is starting to hurt, using muscles I haven't used before.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:09:05 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
How is the knee on that leg?
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:10:01 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Holly, The knee is better than the other. I don't know how much better. It doesn't hurt anything like the one I'm getting surgery on but it does hurt some. I'm hoping that it is because I depend on it more, but I'm not so sure.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:11:50 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well, I am glad you are not doing both knees at one time.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:13:42 (GMT)
Ridy:
I am being summoned by ChiChi - guess it's finally cool enough for her to feel like eating! Can't imagine what it must feel like to live in a fur coat in weather like this... Good night to both of you, see you next week. . .
- ppp5743.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:14:30 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Holly, That would be kind of hard. What do people do when they get both done at the same time?
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:14:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yes, good night Ridy,
and I will also say goodnight Kathy.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:15:33 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Holly, I hope the surgery helps the numbness I feel from my knee to my lower thigh. It's numb but it also hurts. Almost like being asleep and you hit it.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:16:22 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Goodnight Ridy, and Holly
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:16:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh, I have to answer that.
Cry alot and act like a beached Whale. I think it is terrible but they said if they didn't get both done they were afraid they wouldn't get it done again.
Every procedure is different too, so it depends one that too.
- ts2-p19.interlaced.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:18:10 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I'm not much of a crier though. I've been living with my knee for about 6 months.
- 56.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:19:29 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Did anyoneone out there go to the Gottscheer Volkfest in
Franklin Square,Long Island last Sunday? I went for the first time and took my two little kids ,and all had a great time. I saw some Nadler and Konig cousins,some of whom I hadn't seen in 30 years,and also got to meet some of their
children.
- di86.nassaulibrary.org - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 02:46:21 (GMT)
Urska Stimec:
Hello to everyone after a very long time!
Does anyone come to Kocevje / Gottschee this weekend?
There is a big meeting for all the Gottscheer people out there in the big world!
I will be there, please let me know, if anyone is coming, I will be glad to meet you!
Greetings from Kocevje / Gottschee
- 193.189.191.29 - Thursday, June 17, 1999 at 18:45:19 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Welcome back, Urska!
There is a tour group of Gottscheers visiting Gottschee and Laibach right now -- among them Kate Pruente, Sofia Wyant, Henry Persche, etc. Maybe you'll bump into them at the gathering!
- ppp250.on.bellglobal.com - Thursday, June 17, 1999 at 20:52:52 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, everybody! I'm late. What's going on tonight? Eddie, are you on line?
- async01-107.qni.com - Monday, June 21, 1999 at 01:39:07 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Urska; I heard on TV that President Clinton will be visiting Slovenia this week. Do you think you might see him? My father and his family came from Gottschee. I've always wanted to visit. Is it pretty quiet? The rest of the areas near there are in such upheaval. Glad to be on line with you.
- async01-107.qni.com - Monday, June 21, 1999 at 01:44:17 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello, everybody.
- 116.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 21, 1999 at 01:44:24 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Are you going to Cleveland over Labor Day-to the treffen?? I'm hoping to meet some of the people from the plauderzimmer in person.
- async01-107.qni.com - Monday, June 21, 1999 at 01:46:45 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Anyone still there?
- 116.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 21, 1999 at 01:46:51 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Everyone is probably celebrating Father's Day. Must say auf Wiedersehen. See you all next Sunday evening.
- async01-107.qni.com - Monday, June 21, 1999 at 01:51:54 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Bye Margaret
- 116.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 21, 1999 at 01:54:40 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Anyone there?
- 235.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 21, 1999 at 02:25:57 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Just checking in. Anyone still on??
- spider-wo071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 21, 1999 at 02:27:11 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there,
I know I am too late to chat but just wanted to say hello to everyone
- ts1-p00.interlaced.net - Monday, June 21, 1999 at 02:54:29 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Anyone still there?
- 218.newark-05-10rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 21, 1999 at 03:13:28 (GMT)
Julia Puttre:
Hi just dropped in to say hello.I missed everyone last night was on early in the afternoon. Has anyone been in the Rieg Parish yet?Well maybe I;ll catch someone next time.
- cache-dh03.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 21, 1999 at 19:15:44 (GMT)
Herb Mausser:
Hello everyone! Good to be back after a great time at the treffen in Gottschee/Kocevje. Wanted to pass along some important info about the Cleveland treffen coming up: my previous message about the Marriott East Hotel is correct except that, in order to get the special group rate, you must register through the EOUV here in Cleveland. Sorry if my error inconveniences anyone! Please contact me at herbert.mausser@tri-c.cc.oh.us for the name and phone number of the registration person (who can also take your registration for the meal/event package). I'd also be happy to answer any other questions you may have about the weekend (I promise to be accurate from now on!) Looking forward to seeing as many of you as possible in September!
- 141.110.194.105 - Friday, June 25, 1999 at 17:07:16 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there everyone,
We have gotten alot of that much needed rain today. The humidity tries to swallow up all the good that the rain has done. The restaurant that we ate at tonight had a power failure. Thank goodness I already had my meal served. It did have a gas burner but he could barely see in the candlelight. It was alot of fun!
- ts1-p18.interlaced.net - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 01:02:53 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello to everyone. Hope you had a good week. Raining like cats and dogs in K C MO. Our 3rd storm of the day. We jsut keep getting hit by storms rolling across Kansas. We will probably have to build an ark.
- async05-08.qni.com - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 01:03:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Margaret,
Sounds like we are getting the same weather as you. Did you dry out between each storm like we did??
- ts1-p18.interlaced.net - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 01:04:44 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi everybody!
We got some rain too! Yeah!
- ppp19593.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 01:39:09 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gee - this is just like home! I'm talking to myself again...
- ppp19593.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 01:42:30 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Holly: KCMo is so wet, my garden will probably come floating down from the back yard. I have never seen so much rain. And I hear the eastern part of the US is begging for rain. So figure!
- async04-47.qni.com - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 01:45:56 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Herb: The group from KCMO already has hotel reservations, plane, meal package etc. Hope I can meet you and others I've communicated with on the plauderzimmer. Look for the KCMo group in Cleveland. Abour 13 of us.
- async04-47.qni.com - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 01:48:32 (GMT)
Ridy:
Margaret - are you booked into the Marriott Hotel?
- ppp5755.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 01:50:27 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Good night. AufWiedersehen. Have a super week.
- async04-47.qni.com - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 01:54:54 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Yes. We'll be at the Marriott. The group from New York has 3 bus loads. Our aunt Leni Jonke will be among them. She comes from Mahopac,NY.
- async04-47.qni.com - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 01:56:06 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hi everyone
- 32.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 01:57:33 (GMT)
Ridy:
We're also booked into the Marriott, Margaret.
How are you managing, Kathy?
- ppp5755.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 01:59:14 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Pretty well. The stitches come out Tuesday.
- 32.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 01:59:59 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Had a problem on Friday and had to go back to the hospital. Couldn't walk on my leg because of really bad muscle cramps. They gave me something for it and now it is better.
- 32.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 02:01:00 (GMT)
Ridy:
Kathy:
Have you tried Holly's suggestion of going up and down the stairs the way the toddlers do it?
- ppp5755.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 02:03:52 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I wish that we would get some rain. We could really use it.
- 32.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 02:04:18 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Ridy, I didn't need to. I went up the same way i did for months before the surgery, one step at a time.
- 32.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 02:05:11 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
My first day I was really out I walked to the store close by and was exhausted just from walking.
- 32.newark-15-20rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 02:06:20 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good luck on Tuesday, Kathy! And have a good week. . .
Take care
Good night
- ppp5755.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 02:11:23 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Thanks Ridy, I must say goodnight also
- 132.newark-13-14rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, June 28, 1999 at 02:16:02 (GMT)
Friedrich Schiller:
I just notuced Gottschee known to USA, but not merely not in Germany.
- wifomail.med.uni-muenchen.de - Thursday, July 01, 1999 at 08:41:49 (GMT)
Friedrich Schiller:
excuse ma fault: noticed! Your software extraczs awrong e-mail-address from my system. My e-mail addresses are either schill@nuk.med.uni-muenchen.de (server is wifomail.med...)
or schiller@wirmina.de past 07/15/99 schiller@uuirma.de
- wsc16.lrz-muenchen.de - Thursday, July 01, 1999 at 08:44:49 (GMT)
Helmuth:
Hi Friedrich. The information on the date line is not your email, but the host/domain name as given by the Internet host from which the post is originating. It is typically not the same as the host/domain portion of your email address. At any rate, welcome to the site!
- gtwy.fishersci.com - Friday, July 02, 1999 at 13:43:45 (GMT)
Urska Stimec:
Just want to say "Hello" to you all and send warmest greetings from Gottschee!!!
- 193.189.182.236 - Sunday, July 04, 1999 at 20:39:15 (GMT)
Urska Stimec:
You can write me an e-mail: urska.stimec@siol.net, if you know something about Richard Samide, born in1917, he lives/lived in New York...
- 193.189.182.236 - Sunday, July 04, 1999 at 20:43:57 (GMT)
John:
Hi Urska I will be at the Gottscheer Treffen at the Krastowitz Castle in Austria on August first.I was there last year and had a great time.Will you be there ?
- user-2ive0kh.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, July 05, 1999 at 02:12:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Anywhere here. Hot outside and the fireworks are finished.
- spider-ta034.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 05, 1999 at 02:35:39 (GMT)
John:
Hi Jim Here in New York the fireworks are finished too,I could see the fire works on the east rriver from my balcony.In New York on channel 25 Sunday at 3:30 pm there is a half hour program called Slovenian magazine.The show portrays the landscape and culture of Slovenia.Last week they showed Gottschee, and said there are plans to make the area a national park because the Hornwald in Gottschee is one of the last primeval forests in Europe.Gottschee may become the Yellowstone of Europe.There are wolves,bear ,lynx,eagles and 160 species of birds in Gottschee.But the show did not mention anything about the History of the area just that the Hornwald was closed to visitors since 1945 and has been recently open to tourism .The program has excellent nature visuals and happy folk music from many areas of Slovenia.
- user-2ive0bn.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, July 05, 1999 at 03:11:36 (GMT)
Ridy:
Did the program you speak of, John, make any mention of the mass graves in the Hornwald?
- ppp5497.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 05, 1999 at 03:46:10 (GMT)
John:
Hi Ridy No the program did not mention any historical facts what-so-.ever.The official web-page of the Slovenian government did mention the graves in a speech by the newly elected president of Slovenia.
- user-2ive25t.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, July 05, 1999 at 04:00:38 (GMT)
John:
Hi Ridy This week's program mentioned that three governments are working together to make a successful winter Olympics.Austria,Italy and Slovenia.They say that it is wonderful that these three countries are working together now and putting old conflicts aside and creating a positive future of mutual understanding.
- user-2ive25t.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, July 05, 1999 at 04:12:40 (GMT)
Ridy:
John -
That area certainly has a joint history. I've been scanning some old photos and documents this weekend, including the Umsiedlerausweis of my grandparents which they were issued in November 1941. It shows the Geburtsort for my grandfather to be Kukendorf, Oesterreich, and then the Staatsangehoerigkeit is Italienisch - and it's all the same place which is now again Slovenia... Of course, when I was born in that same place, it was Jugoslavia. As we say: das Rad dreht sich --
- ppp1143.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 05, 1999 at 04:32:29 (GMT)
John:
Ridy I have a book called The Gottscheer Churches then and now and the historian-writer mentions that some of the paintings in Gottscheer churches were painted by Italian masters.
- user-2ive2je.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, July 05, 1999 at 05:00:34 (GMT)
Ridy:
Yes - I have that book. There was a lot of interaction between Italians and Gottscheers and Slovenians in peaceful times -- and there obviously were peaceful times as well. One of my aunts was a governess with a prominent family in Venice and there was apparently a lot of visiting back and forth. In fact, we had a family of Italian ancestry living in Kukendorf. . . just as there was intermarriage between Gottscheers and Slovenians. People seem to manage living with each other quite nicely when left on their own, it's when the politicians and the would-be-emperors get involved and tell them how to think and feel that things fall apart. My grandparents produced lace and they sold most of it in Slovenia and Italy and a relatively small amount in Gottschee. Father had a lumber business and most of his workers, including his foreman, were Slovenian.
He trusted each and every one of them. He was a Gottscheer through and through, but ethnic labels didn't sit very well with him. His mother, after all, was from Vorarlberg and she was never accepted by the Gottscheers. . . . that's why, when he founded the Alpine Club in Kitchener, he did not call it Gottcheer Club - he wanted all the german speaking people in Kitchener to feel at home there, and since the Alps wend themselves through several countries he figured that Alpen Klub was a more appropriate name. And it still is.
- ppp1204.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 05, 1999 at 14:06:58 (GMT)
EAALBRECHT@AOL.COM:
Hello - Would like to find out about the Surge and Fritz
families from Obermoesel and Reichenau. These were my
grandparents, who migrated to New York about 1915. Some
relatives live in Hawley, PA and Glendale, NY.
- spider-ta028.proxy.aol.com - Tuesday, July 06, 1999 at 04:35:04 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there,
I can help with the Fritz/Stiene line. Can anyone else help with the Obermosel area??
- ts2-p01.interlaced.net - Tuesday, July 06, 1999 at 13:55:41 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
It's Friday. I'm very late logging on. Out of town for the 4th. Hope all are well. Getting really excited about the treffen in Cleveland. Terribly hot and sticky in KC. It's raining right now.
- async04-89.qni.com - Friday, July 09, 1999 at 14:49:14 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there everyone,
I hope that you have had cooler weather like we have. It has been a welcome relief.
- ts3-p01.interlaced.net - Monday, July 12, 1999 at 01:27:52 (GMT)
tina:
Thr recent trip to gottschee.
- spider-wj042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 12, 1999 at 02:00:40 (GMT)
:
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- spider-wc053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 12, 1999 at 03:14:22 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Busy with grandchildren yesterday. Couldn't log on. Hope all are well. Have a good week. See you all in 2 weeks.
- async02-120.qni.com - Monday, July 12, 1999 at 13:31:42 (GMT)
Cheri Koschir:
Hi Everyone!!! I am so glad to have found this chat area. I am from Toronto and am very interested in chatting with everyone. Please email me with how to go about doing this... lunarbabie@idirect.com Thank-you for your patience. Cheri
- ts7-36t-41.idirect.com - Wednesday, July 14, 1999 at 07:01:28 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi everyone!
- 102.new-york-14.ny.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 01:14:18 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi everyone!
- 102.new-york-14.ny.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 01:17:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
hello, Ed. How are you doing?
- spider-tn014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 01:28:29 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Jim and Ed!
Another light evening, it seems. Are you all keeping cool?
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:01:01 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy are you still here?
- spider-tn014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:06:42 (GMT)
Ridy:
Just came back, Jim. Have been trying to catch news on the TV - clean up the kitchen - and catch up on e-mail -- the usual stuff. How are things down your way?
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:10:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Looks like a thunderstorm is brewing. We need the rain. It has been hot. Had a nice cucumber, tuna, basil & cheese salad for dinner. Nice and light.
- spider-tn014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:11:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Working on incorporating more information from the resettlement records into the FTM file. Did you ever get your copy?
- spider-tn014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:12:01 (GMT)
Ridy:
Your dinner sounds delightful! We had Christopher's 29th birthday dinner today - and needless to say, I'm exhausted.
No cake, though - he'll get that when it's cooler again!
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:12:55 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It is hard to get this going. I wonder if there is a way that others could be notified when you are in the chat room.
- spider-tn014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:13:16 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - No - I never got a copy of that -
We had a thunderstorm yesterday, we enough rain to last for a few days, and it was much needed!
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:14:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I check the chat room but can't stay there when noone else is answering then I leave and someone else comes on who then leaves. I try to do other things and give a shout every now and then.
- spider-tn014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:14:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have purchase version 6.0 and I could check around to see if I still have 5.0.
- spider-tn014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:16:46 (GMT)
Ridy:
You're right - that's what I've been doing. I think the light participation may simply be due to people being away on holidays, etc. -- although when I think back, there was more participation last year when I first joined in.
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:17:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I still have vers.5.0. Version six only has minor variations in it. You could have 5.0 if you want. It will do everything that you need.
- spider-tn014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:17:48 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - are you talking about the FTM version 6 -- that's what I have -
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:18:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Definitely more people joined in. There was Teri, John, Holly, Teri's brother- Joe, and others. Now it is a peek here and there.
- spider-tn014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:18:51 (GMT)
Ridy:
Haven't heard from Joe Hogler in a while - have you, Jim?
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:21:01 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim -
going back a couple of messages -- I just realized what you were talking about. I'm not very far along on the Family Tree Maker at this stage - still collecting info from relatives in filling in blanks as I go. Still on the bottom rung of the ladder! I've got some info on my paternal grandmother, but not nearly enough.
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:26:29 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I got kicked off and am on the other computer
- spider-tq014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:27:44 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
No, Joe has been very quiet.
- spider-tq014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:28:18 (GMT)
Ridy:
kicked off by the thunderstorm or by your wife or daughter?
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:28:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The FTm file is getting very big and is a mixture of so many sources. It is not onehundred percent accurate but is as close as I can get it.
- spider-tq014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:29:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Microsoft. they wanted to do a critical update so I went to the other computer.
- spider-tq014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:30:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
When did the Gottscheers get to Kitchener. I know Cleveland was very early as was Ridgewood and Queens.
- spider-tq014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:32:16 (GMT)
Ridy:
There is a lot of info on those FTM discs that I just don't need - at least not at this stage - but I'm also not sure just where to look for what, so it takes me a while. I tend to lose patience with myself . . .
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:32:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I don't use the other discs that much. I just use the program to organize the data. The information on the discs won't help much.
- spider-tq014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:34:25 (GMT)
Ridy:
You know, I don't know when the first ones went to Kitchener or how they came to choose Kitchener. Any of the early Gottscheers I knew there came after WWI -- and I don't know if there were others who came earlier. I'll try to remember to ask the next time I'm home.
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:35:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Was there a big influx after WW II?
- spider-tq014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:36:07 (GMT)
Ridy:
I had aunts and uncles who went to Brooklyn, Cleveland, and Kitchener spread over the early part of this century until the mid-1950s. But none of our family came earlier than that, as far as I know.
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:37:47 (GMT)
Ridy:
I had aunts and uncles who went to Brooklyn, Cleveland, and Kitchener spread over the early part of this century until the mid-1950s. But none of our family came earlier than that, as far as I know.
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:37:48 (GMT)
Ridy:
There was a huge influx after WWII, starting in 1948
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:38:57 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I wonder if NY and Ohio also had a big influx.
- spider-tq014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:40:55 (GMT)
Ridy:
I would think they did. It was the time when all of us who were kicked out of Gottschee had to look for new places to
settle and the USA and Canada offered the best opportunities
at the time -- especially for those of us who had family members who were willing to help
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:43:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I only know of one family member that came over at that time and that was my godfather in 1955.
- spider-tq014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:44:51 (GMT)
Ridy:
Well - my mother's family practically resettled Kitchener - a corner of it, anyway. There were five sisters and two brothers, all with their families in that family alone --
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:48:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It is amazing that so many have successfully found a new home on this continent. Others went to Austria and Germany. Some went to Austria where Gottscheers had previously established a presence like Klagenfurt.
- 1Cust207.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:49:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am going to be signing off for now. My back is aching from sitting in the chair and there is always work in the am. Take care. Nice chatting.
- 1Cust207.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:51:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night and drop me a line when you get the chance.
- 1Cust207.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:51:38 (GMT)
Ridy:
Not only did they add to the population in Kitchener, they also bought summer properties on Lake Huron, all within spitting distance of each other. It's really great when you go up there, and all your neighbours are relatives! I haven't been there myself in a few years, but I'm thinking of asking one of my cousins if I could crash at her place for a few days, so that I can interview all of my old aunts about the family history. I keep meaning to do it, and methinks I had better get on with it before it's too late.
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:52:08 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good night Jim!
- ppp1320.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 19, 1999 at 02:53:26 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi Jim, sorry we missed. I have not heard from you in awhile. Last week My brother and I went to NY visiting my Uncle Werner Lackner and family. This was the first time I have been to Ny since 1980.
- 91.new-york-14.ny.dial-access.att.net - Tuesday, July 20, 1999 at 01:35:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ed, Drop me a line at my email. How are you doing?
- spider-wc082.proxy.aol.com - Tuesday, July 20, 1999 at 12:40:31 (GMT)
rudy:
to whomever can help...am looking for more information on the parents of Anna Goestel born Spreitzer june2 1907 in neuberg tsxhermoschnitz parents: johann spreitzer and maria meditz....dates places of birth unknown tks...r
- e01.proxy.fedex.com - Wednesday, July 21, 1999 at 17:31:17 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hope everyone had a good week. We were out of town, so I couldn't log on Sunday night. Beastly hot here in KCMO and no relief in sight. Grass is so brown it looks like sand.Have a good week.
- async02-213.qni.com - Wednesday, July 21, 1999 at 20:55:08 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie, This is cousin, Margie. Haven't seen/heard from you for a long time. Hope you and yours are well. Nice to hear that you visited your Uncle Warner. How is he? How is Trudy? Have Krista and Nancy come to New Hamp yet? Anxious to hear from you. Email, if you have time. Do you think you might be going to the treffen in Cleveland?
- async02-213.qni.com - Wednesday, July 21, 1999 at 20:59:08 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Good evening to everyone. Hope you all had a good week. Terribly hot all this week in KCMO. Slight chance for some rain tonight. Eddie, are you on?
- async03-233.qni.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:03:24 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there everyone,
How are you all doing in this heat?? It was breezy today so it was very nice. We are not getting much rain. It trys to then all we get is a few sprinklings
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:05:42 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello to everyone. Dry as a bone in New Jersey. We need rain.
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:12:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly and Margaret, are you still here?
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:13:21 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Jim,
I heard from Rudy Holl
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:13:58 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I am working on some more of the Mausser/Wuchte lines of Tsch. Got pretty far today.
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:15:10 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello!
It's hot and humid in Toronto as well. Watering the garden is restricted because of low water levels and no rain. Every time the weatherman promises rain we get up to 3 or 4 drops or none at all. . . . .maybe we just complained too much about all that snow and bitter cold during the winter months. Right about now, I'm not sure which I like less.
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:16:42 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Thank you for the information. I am glad to hear about Rudy Holl.
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:17:22 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi everyone!
- 42.bridgeton-51.mo.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:17:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
pretty arid. The lawn looks like a bomb hit it and I have a deep well that never runs out. The heat is amazing.
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:18:27 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Ridy,
How terrible to see the garden you have worked on, start to wither.
I'll still take the heat over that blowing icy snow.
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:18:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Ed. Got your note. How did the visit go?
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:18:52 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, The resettlement records are the last bit of information going forward. Then everyone was scattered to the corners of the earth (or Queens, Ohio). Some even ended up in Ridy's neck of the woods.
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:20:00 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
My visit went well. I forgot how nice upstate NY is.
- 42.bridgeton-51.mo.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:20:04 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Eduard,
I believe Margaret is looking for you!
How's your weather? Are you all settled into your new home?
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:20:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The veggies are doing great. They are in the wettest part of the yard so they are loving it. I am picking cucumbers and zucchini along with basil. The tomatoes are several weeks away.
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:21:08 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
The high was in the 60s today. I have not closed on my house yet. I should be closing on the 16th of August. Can't wait. IT IS SO MUCH FUN LIVING WITH MY BROTHER AND HIS FAMILY!
- 42.bridgeton-51.mo.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:22:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ed, was up in the Catskill area last week as well. How beautiful. The foliage should be exquisite in the fall. You will have great color in your area.
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:22:20 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
Don't forget that I have the GottscheerGedenkbuch that may help us with folks that settled in the States.Let me know when you need me to look it up.
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:22:32 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Margie, are you still on.
- 42.bridgeton-51.mo.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:22:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, I wish I could get my hands on one of those books. How many pages are there?
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:23:26 (GMT)
Betty Albrecht (Surge):
Hi, Just wondering about the trip to Yugoslavia that was
from June 10-23 this year and how it was. If someone went
on it, can you tell me a little about it. I would like to
take this tour next year and want to find out if the Kollander World Travel, Cleveland, Ohio group did a good
job arranging everything. EAALBRECHT@AOL.COM
- spider-te061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:24:06 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
pages in the book are 302.
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:24:22 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
I also have the Gottscheer Gedenkbuch. A gift from my parents. A great source of info.
- 42.bridgeton-51.mo.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:24:27 (GMT)
Ridy :
Jim:
"even"??? what do you mean, 'even' - I'll have you know we even have indoor plumbing up here in the frozen North! One of these days I'll have to invite you all up here to check us out -- we don't live in caves anymore! (Just kiddin') - I know you're all just envious!
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:24:29 (GMT)
rudy:
Holly....thank you so much for the information you supplied..it sure is a start.....now...where can i find more information and how do i get more?
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:26:52 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Jim, so how have you been doing? It has been awhile since I have been on the internet. I set-up my account on my brother's computer so I get my email.
- 42.bridgeton-51.mo.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:27:05 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Thus the Canadian speaks!
We want to know why some Gottscheers came to Canada? Didn't your parents every speak of it? Why did they settle in Canada? Was it the job opportunities?
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:27:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly or Ed, I will have to do a commando raid and get one of them. IF you see some guy with black paint on the face crawling in your backyard, don't shoot.
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:27:49 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ed, doing okay. Work is fine. The weather is hot. Will be going to the Cayman Islands next week to do a little scuba diving. The kids are doing well. My youngest, Amanda, 14, got an award at the 8th grade graduation. How are things with you?
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:29:39 (GMT)
rudy:
My grandparents came because my grandmother's brother and his wife had come to kitchener in the twenties i believe and they financed them....parents and 8 children from austria and my father followed the following year...that was in 1951 but my grandfather had a brother Rudolf Goestel that settled in new york...r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:29:55 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
I believe the newer book is still avail.
- 42.bridgeton-51.mo.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:30:25 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Rudy,
Glad to be of help. I once wrote an article about "This is where you start" over on the Gottschee Bulletin Board. Check it out and we will talk more. I did find some more info for you but I believe your Goestel line was from Preriegel parish. I don't have any info on that but perhaps others do. I am happy to help with any of your questions
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:30:41 (GMT)
rudy:
Holly....All i have right now from the goestle side is my grandfather's parents were josef goestl born april 8 1862 oberdeutschau and died nov 3 1914 and mother of maria kump born dec 12 1861 buchberg died april 12 1938 r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:32:37 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ed, what newer book?? Do you know where I can get it?
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:33:28 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Jim> I am fine. I am looking forward to family moving up here. My daughter, Krista will be going to middle school next year.....I feel Old! It is a change living up here with yankees again. But I guess I will get used to it. NH is a great place to live. The people here are so nice and pleasant.
- 42.bridgeton-51.mo.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:33:43 (GMT)
Ridy :
Well - the reason my parents settled in Canada was because they couldn't get into the States! We were supposed to join father's family who all lived in Ridgewood, but the boat we were supposed to sail on was comandeered by the U.S.Army to bring back some of their troops after WWII. Mother had a brother living in Kitchener, and so we got on the next boat leaving for Canada instead and it was decided that we'd go to New York via Canada. Somehow that got messed up and we arrived as Canadian immigrants - and we couldn't go to the States until we became Canadian citizens -- and years later, when all that was settled, we were settled and decided we liked it here and so we stayed. Most other Gottscheers who came to Canada came here because this is where they wanted to come in the first place, not by default.
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:34:29 (GMT)
rudy:
thank you holly....i will check out that article and continue my search...am looking to mostly verify brothers and sisters of my grandparents and so one...i know i have cousins in new york..and cleveland as i remember visiting them when i was young puppy...even cracked my head open in new york on one of those trips...r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:34:34 (GMT)
rudy:
ridy....we must have met sometime at the alpine club...you must know my parents or my grandparents as least...r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:35:53 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
When my household stuff shows up here I will find the info for you. I am someone in the Gottscheer Hall would know. Also, a Thomas Stalzer from Ridgewood may know. If I find his email I'll send it to you.
- 42.bridgeton-51.mo.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:36:33 (GMT)
Ridy :
Rudy Goestel from Kitchener? You must be one of the younger generation!
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:37:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, what was your grandfather's name? I have a little information that takes it back one more generation.
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:37:49 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Also, I wonder about the Gottscheer Flag. We need to start bugging the Edelweiss house!
- 42.bridgeton-51.mo.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:38:33 (GMT)
Ridy :
Rudy - my father, Wilhelm Hoegler, started the Alpine Club back in the early 1950s -- and we did it officially at the Goestel's house -- I'm trying to remember the address -- was it Mill Street?
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:39:08 (GMT)
rudy:
ridy no...rudy goestl would be my uncle or his son...i am rudy holl...son of alfred and emma holl/ nee goestl...daughter of august and ann goestel r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:39:30 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Rudy.
Josef Goestel b. 8 Apr. 1862 married 24 May 1885 in Nesselthal. His parents are Michael Goestel/Agnes Loretitsch.
I am not sure of the spelling.
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:39:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Rudy, oops. Ridy, oops.
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:40:23 (GMT)
rudy:
ridy...close to mill st...on benton st almost at mill st...and we lived on bruder st..just around the corner.....r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:40:30 (GMT)
Ridy :
My paternal grandfather was Georg Hoegler and my maternal grandfather was Mathias Mausser from Ebental.
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:40:44 (GMT)
rudy:
Holly....you're killing me with all of this information already...my mother is going to flip when i show her all of this....especially since my grandmother only died less than a year ago r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:42:03 (GMT)
rudy:
ridy...are you of the hoelers that had the jewellry store on queen st? r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:42:58 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Rudy,
How sad. I wish you would have contacted me sooner.
I did a little bit better on your Spreitzer side They are mostly from Tschermoschnitz.
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:44:19 (GMT)
Ridy :
Jim -
get your vowels straight!
Rudy - I was going to say Benton, and then I couldn't remember how far Benton went -- but I remember the group who were all assembled - it must have been your grandparent's home - and the older ones kept telling us younger ones (in those days we were the younger ones) to stop dancing in the kitchen and come and vote on all the different articles -
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:45:58 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie, Yes. I came back on. Glad to her you will be closing on the house early in August. Guess it is lots of FUN living with Gary and family. How is your uncle Warner. I guess it's been more than 40 years since I have seen him and Trudy. Too bad we never get to see one another. Are Nancy and Krista with your mom and dad? Need to email your mom. Hope you have a super week.
- async02-31.qni.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:46:59 (GMT)
rudy:
Oh holly...thank you but many leave this stuff to the last minute....i did check out helmuth's site a few years ago when i first got the computer but had not done anything till my wife starting working on her side...she is from germany and is relying mostly on the family for information ..r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:46:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim, Jum, whatever,
That was funny!
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:47:33 (GMT)
rudy:
Ridy...isnt that cool...do you still live in kitchener? get down there much? i live in oakville now and we get to kitchener only to visit family and friends and buy shoes at petches and my daughter dances with concordia club and the hanza haus in brampton r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:49:10 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Rudy,
I didn't have much luck with my German records but Jim not only found records, he is an heir to a fortune! Right Jim?
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:49:23 (GMT)
Ridy :
Rudy -
No - that was Adolf Hoegler and his kids are Edna Ball and Herbie Hoegler who has the drug stores. But only today I was scanning some old pictures into the computer and one of them is of your father when he won first prize at a Halloween dance back in the early 50s when we still had our dances in Matlock Gardens! Your grandmother and my mother were very good friends, and I know your mother, of course.
But since I've lived in Toronto for the last 36 years I don't get to see many of my Kitchener friends anymore
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:51:09 (GMT)
rudy:
jim, jum....why would you have so much german information? my wife is from essen and her mother..but her father is from the former east....how does collect so much stuff...nevermind...my wife is a collecter and packrat...r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:51:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
My father is in line to get a tidy sum. Not a fortune but a nice chunk of cash. He should be getting it within the year. Not a bad piece of luck. I am in line only to get the genealogy work that the law firm has in its possession which is fine by me.
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:51:54 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
As we all know, the genealogy is better than the money, any day!!!
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:53:11 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
I guess Margie is gone for the night.
- 42.bridgeton-51.mo.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:54:24 (GMT)
rudy:
Ridy...i must tell my mother this ....I must have seen you in the past too....my younder days in the alpine club dance group brought me to the club often and i got to know so many gottcheers..my sight mostly and a very good friend anita petche is related to more than i am...r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:54:33 (GMT)
Ridy :
Rudy -
You probably know that Gustl Petsche died not too long ago
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:55:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, checked the resettlement records. Can go forward to Rudy's aunts and uncles. Can go back one generation with the Goestls to the early 1800's. Which Spreitzer line is Anna from? Do you want me to email you the information that I have so that you can send it on?
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:55:25 (GMT)
rudy:
Ridy...oh yes...the poor man...i was at the funeral...all 3 anita peter and dieter said so many nice things about him...saw many gottscheers there too...and reminisced about our younger days..r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:56:37 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hey,
Much fun tonight. It has been awhile since I was able to chat and sure enjoyed it.
I got to get some records checked so I will say good-night and happy hunting.
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:56:48 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Goodnight Holly!
- 42.bridgeton-51.mo.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:57:36 (GMT)
rudy:
holly..thank you again so much...will check out that article and get crackin..r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:57:41 (GMT)
Ridy :
Rudy -
this is really interesting --
I started the first group of Alpine Club Dancers at the same time we started the Club! I gave my aunt Frieda Mausser some of the old photographs which used to be in the newspapers and she told me they would put them up somewhere at the Club -- but I never get there anymore except for funerals.
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:57:42 (GMT)
Ridy :
'Nite Holly! give Marc a kiss for me
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:59:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Goodnight, Holly. I see you signed off so I will send what I have on the Goestls to you.
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:59:06 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Goodnight Jim and everyone. Got to go now! Maybe next I can con my parents to chat!
- 42.bridgeton-51.mo.dial-access.att.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 01:59:16 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Thanks Jim,
You could just forward me a copy too so we don't duplicate.
Anna Spreitzer b. 2 June 1907 child of
Johan Spreitzer b. 5 Dec 1849 Neuberg 1, Tsch.
m. 1 Feb 1891 Tsch.
Maria Meditz b. 31 Jan 1866 Oberblastwitz 1, Tsch.
- ts1-p29.interlaced.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:00:05 (GMT)
rudy:
Ridy...i have no idea how old you are..but lets put some things into percpective here...i am 46 and was with the dance group started by annie and hans kroisenbrunner..but my other two aunts..trudy and bertha were in a group before the one i was in..mainly schuplattler..r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:00:14 (GMT)
Ridy :
Rudy -
I'm 63-1/2.... Yes, Hans Kroisenbrunner started in my group.
After that Kurt Kofler took over for a while. I was in a bad car accident in 1961 and I didn't dance much after that - moved to Switzerland for a year,(got divorced) then moved to Toronto, then Ann Arbor for 2 years, and then back to Toronto - so dancing wasn't an option anymore. It all seems so very long ago
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:03:28 (GMT)
Ridy :
Rudy -
my e-mail address is ridy@sympatico.ca - send me a note and I'll send you the photos I'm talking about
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:04:46 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Just checking to see how everyone is doing. I was so excited last week when Elizabeth Nick sent me some pictures of Ebental and Kate Pruente sent me some dried wild flowers from the Ebental cemetery. It doesn't look like much of the Ebental Cemetery survived. Did anyone else get a chance to make the trip to Gottschee?
- proxy-567.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:05:49 (GMT)
rudy:
Ridy....oh dear....bout the accident/divorce and great that you were able to move around...i would love to live in europe but alas the job is here etc..blah blah blah...it was very nice chatting with you all....i would say see you next week but am going camping next weekend and i am not that attached to the computer..thank you all for whatever information you provided...good night...r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:06:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, John. Time for me to bid adieu. Got your note. Sounds like you are having a good summer. Take care. Will be in the caribbean next week.
- 1Cust31.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:08:03 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Goodnight Jim! Have a great time!
- proxy-561.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:09:06 (GMT)
Ridy :
Hi John!
Lucky you! I'm waiting to see a writeup about the trip in the Newsletter
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:09:33 (GMT)
Ridy :
Good night, Jim
watch the fish don't bite!
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:10:11 (GMT)
rudy:
ridy.....yes i will and thank you again....
john....checked out your site too..wonderful stuff and as i was checking out one of the gottcheer books that i borrowed from my mother...dried flowers were in there from when she and my father visited...nothing left of ober deutschau that she could recognize....and my wife and i drove down to gottchee in 1979 but knew nothing at that time of anything and had a terrible time with language...english was our best bet even though we had german french and spanish to chose from too...r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-26-10.sprint.ca - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:10:24 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
I was very happy about all the things I received. I sounded like they had a very good trip. I think they were supposed to go to Kukendorf on this trip if I remember right. I asked if they went to Setsch and they didn't.
- proxy-564.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:11:32 (GMT)
Ridy :
The reason they didn't go to Kukendorf, John, is because it's not there anymore - not even a road. . . .
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:12:52 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Oh, I didn't realize there wasn't anything left of Kukendorf. It is surprising that people haven't settled there like many of the other villages. Do you have any idea's why no one would want to live there?
- proxy-561.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:15:52 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
I do remember you saying that there was just a walking path to Kukendorf from Ebental. Was there any other roads out of Kukendorf.
- proxy-563.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:17:49 (GMT)
Ridy :
Most, if not all of the houses were burned to the ground the day after we left - or the day we left, I can't recall. The church was still standing and being used as a barn during the 1960s (I visited in 1963) but that's no longer standing either, not for the last 20+ years. . .
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:19:27 (GMT)
Ridy :
There was a road, of course, - we got stuck on it on my first-ever car trip back in 1940! - but since nobody has lived there since 1941 whatever road there was has just vanished
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:21:33 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Was Ebental the only place people were buried in that area or were there other cemeteries that they used?
- proxy-347.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:22:22 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Did that road go between Ebental and Kukendorf or did it go through some other area?
- proxy-347.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:23:36 (GMT)
Ridy :
I honestly don't know, John. It's one of the questions I must remember to ask my aunts.
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:23:37 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
I forget you were pretty young when you left Kukendorf. It sounds like you have had terrible heat in Toronto this summer.
- proxy-348.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:25:21 (GMT)
Ridy :
There was the road up from Ebental and then there was a road to Tiefental and Reifnitz, as far as I recall.... I don't know if there was a road to Setsch from Kukendorf or if you had to go to Ebental to get to Setsch. . .
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:25:22 (GMT)
Ridy :
We've been steaming hot -- not to my liking at all. I haven't really been out anywhere in a couple of weeks - I let Ray do the grocery shopping. But I'm getting pretty tired of being cooped up in all this 'air-conditioned comfort' -- but the long range weather forecast is for more of the same. Yuck!
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:27:16 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
My recollection of some of the military maps I saw at the U. of Wyoming, Setsch had an entrance from Ebental and the area of Hinje and Prevale and the was the extent entrances to Setsch.
- proxy-342.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:28:32 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
We get as hot as you guys do, but we don't have the awful humidity. Our humidity will be somewhere between 10 and 20% in the real hot part of the day.
- proxy-348.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:30:42 (GMT)
Ridy:
That's strange - my last message didn't register - or maybe I made a mistake (impossible!) - but I just checked out website and our humidity is down to 62% - that's way down from what it was earlier in the day.
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:35:49 (GMT)
Ridy:
John -
just realized what the time is - time flies when you're having fun.....Good night!
- ppp325.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:36:44 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Goodnight Ridy! I check our humidity here in Ogden, it is 21%. So I'm glad in Ogden and not Toronto. Have a great week.
- proxy-346.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, July 26, 1999 at 02:39:21 (GMT)
Edwin Eppich:
Attention Cheri Koschir: I have been trying to respond to your email but I keep getting "Returned mail: User unknown." Please email me again at eepich@concentric.net. Thanks!
- ts023d09.hil-ny.concentric.net - Wednesday, July 28, 1999 at 22:53:45 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Good evening to all. Hope you had a nice week. Much cooler here in KCMO. ONly 85 today. Better than 105! Eddie, are you on tonight?
- 209.126.12.49 - Monday, August 02, 1999 at 01:15:01 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there,
Where we live in Ohio, rain is still needed. My in-laws have been hit with terrible storms and they only live about 15 minutes away from us. They are constantly without power.
Hope everyone else is faring o.k.
- ts3-p26.interlaced.net - Monday, August 02, 1999 at 01:31:59 (GMT)
margaret Jonke:
Must sign off. Hope you all have a super week. See you nest Sunday. Auf Wiedersehen
- 209.126.12.49 - Monday, August 02, 1999 at 01:43:55 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello, Anyone there?
- 245.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 00:58:13 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hey, Kathy Milano, I'm on line. Margaret here. Hope we have lots of company tonight. Eddie Stalzer, I hope you log on. Not too many last week.
- 209.126.13.29 - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 00:59:58 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello Margaret. It has been a while since I have been on.
- 245.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:00:49 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Edwin Eppich. My aunt, Leni Jonke, in Mahopac,NY. was an Eppich before she married. Could you be some relation? Just curious. My aunt is 77.
- 209.126.13.29 - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:01:54 (GMT)
Rudy:
Attn Jim H.
Thank you so much for passing on whatever you pass on to Holly....she sent me loads of stuff that i cant fathom as yet...tks again r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-33-31.sprint.ca - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:05:34 (GMT)
Rudy:
Ridy....If you are on....yes i got that last picture you sent me....but i think that is my uncle frank and not my father....i dont know what happened to the other pictures tho..r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-33-31.sprint.ca - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:06:41 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Everybody!
Kathy -- how's the knee?
Rudy - I didn't send the other pictures, I was waiting to hear if you got it. Looks like I goofed on the identity - and to think it was only about 45 years ago! I'll send the group photo - if I remember how I did it...
- ppp316.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:16:21 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hi Ridy, The knee is great, almost back to normal. But since we had to rush my husband to the hospital. That is why I haven't been on lately.
- 245.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:17:28 (GMT)
Rudy:
Yes ridy...i got the picture...can open it, edit it..etc etc...My mother says hello...r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-33-31.sprint.ca - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:20:42 (GMT)
Ridy:
Rudy - I've just sent you the photo of the dancers - did you get that one? Still haven't found the photo of your mother but I'm not finished sorting yet . . . . gimme time
- ppp316.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:23:58 (GMT)
Rudy:
Ridy,...lemme check...be right back r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-33-31.sprint.ca - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:24:33 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Almost 8:30 here in KCMO. Guess everyone is busy tonight. Will check back later.
- 209.126.13.234 - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:27:45 (GMT)
Rudy:
Hellooooooooo....Ridy....have the dance group picture printed in front of me...i recognize Hans K and Annie...which one is you???? he he he,...i try not to laugh...r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-33-31.sprint.ca - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:29:51 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I have to go. maybe I'll check back later.
- 245.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:30:43 (GMT)
Ridy:
I'm the one that's not in costume - the teacher didn't dance that night. . . That's not Annie, it's her late sister Ingrid. Do you recognize Erika the Yodler?
- ppp316.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:31:44 (GMT)
Ridy:
Kathy - my e-mail address is ridy@sympatico.ca -- drop me a line sometime!
- ppp316.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:32:45 (GMT)
Rudy:
Ridy...you mean thats not annie k the second girl from the left???? and no..i dont recognize erika r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-33-31.sprint.ca - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:33:31 (GMT)
Ridy:
Nope - that not Anne - Hans was dancing with Inge at the time. Erika is standing behind me, next to Ingrid, with Frank Schuster between them.
- ppp316.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:40:57 (GMT)
Rudy:
Ridy....the name sounds familiar....and even some of the faces look familiar..sorry to say but i dont recognize you at all.....i used to work out at the club in the early seventies in the coat check when i was in grade 9 and 10 and i saw many faces then but this is way before...when i was only knee high..r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-33-31.sprint.ca - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:44:18 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Ridy, My e mail address is q.milanojr@worldnet.att.net
- 245.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:47:07 (GMT)
Ridy:
You wouldn't know me, Rudy. I left Kitchener in the early 1960s and have lived in Toronto since 1968. Since my mother died last year I don't get to Kitchener much anymore at all, although I'll be there at my sister's this week. Going to Stratford! Yeah!
- ppp316.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:47:41 (GMT)
Rudy:
Ridy...Well....have fun in Stratford....i will email you soon...must get some of the old photos out from my parents.......ciao all r
- spc-isp-tor-uas-33-31.sprint.ca - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:49:34 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Anyone still there?
- 245.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:52:20 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Guess I'll check back next Sunday. Bye.
- 245.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 01:54:36 (GMT)
Andre:
Hi ! I´m Andre from germany.
- nowis14.nord.de - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 12:06:52 (GMT)
Andre:
Well, it seems there´s nobody in here. Well I often heard about my grandfather left his home in the near of yugoslavia at World War II and settled down in germany. But I hadn´t heard much about it. Yesterday I found our surname (" Tschampa" ) in an internet-listing of the ancestry of the Gottschee Region. So I found out that my grandfather´s roots are in the GOTTSCHEE-region. So I´m very interested in my families past and I would be happy if anyone can contact me and maybe tell me something about GOTTSCHEE. My Mail-adress is tschampa@btu.de ... We life in the near of Wilhelmshaven at the coast to the north sea in germany ! Thanx...
- nowis14.nord.de - Monday, August 09, 1999 at 12:20:39 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there everyone,
Just a note to let you know that my e-mail is now:
hdroese@suite224.net
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Thursday, August 12, 1999 at 03:25:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Just checking in. Anyone here?
- spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:09:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I will check back in a short while. If you come on, email me and I will check back.
- spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:13:00 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there, everyone.
We've been having some nice weather and some much needed rain.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:15:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, will be right back on. We have to check on a beanie baby.
- spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:17:10 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, I am back. The beanie baby bid is still okay (my wife collects them for my daughter who still loves them).
- spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:18:21 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Been working through the resettlement record. It has a lot of information and is the last official record available to look back.
- spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:19:12 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Jim,
I am watching Discovery channel about the sharks. Seems like my daughter has slowed up on her collection now. I think the Attic Treasures are cuter and better constructed.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:20:20 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I have been working on the Tsch. marriage records and have been having some problems with that! I now have a "problem
file" to check when I can find the time. I have 1810-1834 in my computer now
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:22:21 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I like the attic treasures as well but Amanda collects the beanies. Can't have everything. I liked the nurse sharks in Cayman but I have no interest in doing a shark dive with the real big boys of Jaws.
- spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:22:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, check with Kate Pruente. I think she was working on them and had gotten through a significant portion of them. I can give you her email address if you don't have it.
- spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:23:47 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Rudy did the Bahamas shark dive and also dived the same site on another dive.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:23:52 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
How did he like it? The next time I go to the Caymans, I am going to do a night dive, but I want to get more gear first.
- spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:24:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I have Kate's address. I don't want to bother her unless i can't figure it out myself.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:25:06 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
He loved it. he had lots of sharks to look at and one large ray flew right over his head. He does the night diving in Bonaire.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:26:46 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, everybody! Late tonight. Lots of dishes. Gettiing hot in KC again. How is everyone? Eddie, are you on?
- 209.126.12.189 - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:27:33 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I night snorkeled but I don't really like to meet the eels so I rather stay out.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:28:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I don't think she would mind and it might save some duplication of work. I am about 75% done with the Ebental marriage list. Then I have to input the data into the spreadsheet format. I will then crosscheck it with the information already in file before I give to Kate for the GHGA.
- spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:28:52 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi I am new to this.
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:29:08 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Margaret!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:29:25 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Mary,
Welcome to the chat.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:29:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi Margaret. It has been a hot summer. Drought conditions in NJ. Have my own well but feel guilty if I water the lawn when everyone else is on town water restrictions.
- spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:30:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Mary.
- spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:30:22 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I bet you feel like putting out a sign "I have my own Well"
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:31:08 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly, I am the one who send you email earlier this week.
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:31:42 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Not much doing tonight. Guess I'll sign off. Looking forward to treffen in Cleveland. Pretty soon now. About 11 of us from KCMO coming. All my cousins and near cousins.Auf Wiedersehen.
- 209.126.12.189 - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:31:44 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I just found I have Gottschee ancestors.
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:32:30 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
I am looking for my e-mail and I can't find your message.
Could you refresh my memory?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:33:10 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
At times, I call the police and let them know so they won't ticket me if they see the sprinkler going.
- spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:34:55 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
It was earlier in the week, and all I remember is it was about gottschee. My email is Marilu1030
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:35:17 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
I am so sorry but I didn't get it. I just changed carriers this week and wonder if it got caught up in that. I am now hdroese@suite224.net
Could you re-send your message?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:36:46 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I didn't realize how serious they are about a water bann.!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:37:48 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly, You answered me a couple of times....
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:38:58 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Dear Mary,
Forgive me as I am Senile. I get alot of e-mail and yours did not sound familiar.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:40:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi Mary, what areas of Gottschee are you interested in and what are some of the surnames?
- spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:40:43 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Everybody!
- ppp5551.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:41:18 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
My ancestors are Peschel from Bistritz #1.
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:41:45 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Pat Sullivan gave me the info and the numbers for ordering Microfilm for the records.
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:42:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello Ridy.
- 1Cust111.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:43:23 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Ridy,
How is everything? So did you do more visiting?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:43:32 (GMT)
John:
Hi everyone.I went to the "Gottscheer Woche Treffen" at the Krastowitz Castle near the Klagenfurt airport.I had a great time!There were friendly people,the food was good and we went on several bus trips.The bus trip to Gottschee was fascinating and Mr.Stalzer's stories about Gottschee during the trip were very interesting.I am looking forward to next year's Treffen.
- user-2ive0aq.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:43:36 (GMT)
Ridy:
Holly! Beautiful photo of HRH Marc! Thanks!
- ppp5551.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:44:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, can't help from my records. Only two Peschls and they are from the late 1700's to early 1800's. Sorry.
- 1Cust111.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:46:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
Yes he is a wonderful baby. He makes strangers laugh at his hair and his wonderful personality.!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:46:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, John. Was that Viktor Stalzer?
- 1Cust111.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:46:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there John,
Did you have a Krainerwurst?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:47:37 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim, what town were they from, the Peschels you have?
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:49:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, they were married in and no town was listed.
- 1Cust111.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:50:37 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim -
after all my grousing earlier today, I had a call from a cousin this evening who has told me to look for some old photos in the mail from her! Victory on one front at last!
- ppp5551.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:51:20 (GMT)
John:
Holly How did you know that I had Krainerwurst? I had them for lunch today. It must be some kind of mental telapathy.
- user-2ive0aq.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:51:20 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim, What were the names and dates?
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:51:24 (GMT)
John:
Jim Yes it was Victor Stalzer.
- user-2ive0aq.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:52:27 (GMT)
Ridy:
I don't know who 'John' is -- but I figure you're not a Gottscheer unless you love Krainerwurst! Right?!
- ppp5551.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:52:43 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
John,
I wish it was telepathy but I am still stuck on the story so long ago about the train station and krainerwurst. Who told that story anyways??
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:53:12 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
Unfortunately I have not had one yet. My father-in-law cooks many types of wursts but not Krainerwurst.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:54:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, Maria abt.1787 who married Lucas Deutschmann of Oberdeutschau on 5/11/1812 in Nesseltal and Gertrud (no dates) who married Mathias Kump before 1807 in the Nesseltal area.
- 1Cust111.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:56:02 (GMT)
John:
Ridy I am a Gottscheer and my Ancestors come from Niedertiefenbach.
- user-2ive0aq.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:56:03 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim, thanks, but they are not the ones.
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:56:44 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The resettlement records list seven Peschls and they all lived in Bresowitz which is in the Unterdeutschau parish.
- 1Cust111.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:56:56 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi John -
I was born in Kukendorf, Gottschee....I'll have to look up Niedertiefenbach. . .
- ppp5551.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:57:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
John, Viktor is my first cousin once removed. He and my mother are first cousins. I have corresponded with him by mail and with his daughter by email and mail.
- 1Cust111.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:58:23 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim, my other surname is Roschitsch, but don't know what town yet.
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:58:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, Niedertiefenbach is in the Morobitz parish which is south to southwest of Kukendorf.
- 1Cust111.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:59:53 (GMT)
John:
Ridy, Niedertiefenbach is in the southern part of Gottschee near Morobitz.
- user-2ive0aq.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 01:59:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
How about a Johan Peschl of Bistriz born 5 Sept 1849
married Marg. Stalzer. 7 children. record from Nesselthal family book of Oberdeutschau 5.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:00:50 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, I have a little more information on the Roschitsch surname so if you can give me a first name or two with a birthdate, I might be able to point you in the right direction.
- 1Cust111.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:01:11 (GMT)
Ridy:
Thanks for the geography lesson, guys! I was still squinting at my map and you helped me locate the place. For one who was born there, I've got a lot to learn!
- ppp5551.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:01:35 (GMT)
John:
Jim I met both Mr.Stalzer and his daughter at the Krastowitz Treffen.
- user-2ive0aq.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:01:39 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly, there is a Johan Peschel but that is not the right wife, from the records I have. I should have the microfilm in a couple of days so I can check for sure.
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:01:52 (GMT)
John:
Ridy, There were 44 houses in Niedertiefenbach.
- user-2ive0aq.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:02:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, was Margareta the daughter of Josef Stalzer and Maria Meditz?
- 1Cust111.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:03:39 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
their son Johan died at Spital. Had a daughter Maria b. 26 Jan 1882 who went to America. another daughter Marg. born 22 Feb 1892. the rest of the children died young.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:04:21 (GMT)
Ridy:
John - that makes Niedertiefenbach twice the size of Kukendorf.
- ppp5551.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:04:39 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim, The Roschitsch name is Maria, that married a Peschel, and all I know about her is that her parents names were John and Matilda. Matilda does not sound like it came from Gottschee to me.
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:04:51 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
What is the estimate year of birth for Maria Roschitsch?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:06:18 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly, Maria was born in 1852
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:07:28 (GMT)
John:
Ridy I went to Niedertiefenbach and there were people who remember the Gottscheer language and can speak it.
- user-2ive0aq.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:08:14 (GMT)
Ridy:
Mary - Matilda is a Gottscheer name. I knew two Matildes once upon a time. Quite often the names would be entered into the records with an 'a' ending, when in fact they should have had an 'e' ending. e.g., I'm entered as Maria Magdalena, when in fact my name is Maria Magdalene - and all my records show that to be the case. Except the church records, I guess.
- ppp5551.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:08:44 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I looked at the Nesselthal birth records and the answer is no to Josef Stalzer's Margaretha
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:09:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Nothing in my records for that Maria. Mathilde was not a common name for that area.
- 1Cust8.tnt3.newark.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:09:13 (GMT)
John:
Good night everyone I have to go now.
- user-2ive0aq.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:09:30 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy, thanks that makes me feel better. I had not seen the name yet in the few records I have looked at.
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:09:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, do you have Marg.Stalzer's parents?
- 1Cust8.tnt3.newark.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:10:09 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Thanks everyone for the help. I hope in a few weeks to have my answers.
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:10:43 (GMT)
Ridy:
John - you mean that people living there now can still speak the Gottscheer language? Were they Gottscheers? Although I know a couple of Slowenian families here who speak it, but they married into Gottscheer families. Hey - I still speak it fluently!
- ppp5551.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:10:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, John. What are your Gottscheer surnames?
- 1Cust8.tnt3.newark.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:10:50 (GMT)
John:
Jim,My Grandfather's name is Mathias Gladitsch and he was the Burgermeister in Niedertiefenbach.
- user-2ive0aq.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:13:44 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Good night John.
Jim, I need more info on Josef Stalzer. From where?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:14:05 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good night, John
- ppp5551.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:14:58 (GMT)
John:
Ridy, I can understand and read "Gottscheerisch"
- user-2ive0aq.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:15:13 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
good night everyone
- spider-wm071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:15:27 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
when someone's occupation is listed as "zimmerman", what does that mean?
- 1Cust8.tnt3.newark.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:15:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Mary. Sorry I couldn't help.
- 1Cust8.tnt3.newark.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:16:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Thank you, John. I envy your knowledge of the language.
- 1Cust8.tnt3.newark.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:16:45 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Good night Mary.
I didn't find your Roschitsch yet. Still looking.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:17:49 (GMT)
Ridy:
Zimmermann is a carpenter
- ppp5551.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:18:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, Josef was born abt.1818 and lived in or was born in Oberdeutschau #5. Parents Josef and Maria Stalzer from marriage records. Married Maria Meditz from Oberdeutschau#2 abt. 1819 to Leonard Meditz and Ursula Flack.
- 1Cust8.tnt3.newark.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:19:19 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
not verified but yes, Josef b. 11 may 1818
Maria Meditz Stalzer b. Alfreisach 2 on 12 Mar 1819
7 children.
Marg. b. 27 May 1857
from Nesselthal Family book-Oberdeutschau 5
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:21:59 (GMT)
Ridy:
Goodnight, Holly and Jim -
time to unload the dishwasher and call it a night.
- ppp5551.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:25:27 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
Take care & good-night.I still have some clothes that need folded.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:27:15 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well, Jim.
I better get some work done around here. The dust is piling up on the t.v.
Let me know if you need more info on that
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:29:29 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night to all, Holly you continue to amaze me. Good night Ridy, good to hear about the pictures.
- 1Cust50.tnt3.newark.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, August 16, 1999 at 02:29:54 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Anybody here yet.
- proxy-563.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 00:30:02 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello
- 81.newark-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:14:00 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Anyone there?
- 81.newark-18-19rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:18:06 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Kathy!
- proxy-388.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:30:31 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, everybody! I'm late tonight. Eddie, are you on tonight?? Getting closer to Cleveland. Hope everyone is well.
- async13-83.qni.com - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:31:26 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Margaret!
- proxy-386.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:31:57 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guess I'll sign off. Auf Wiedersehen. Have a super week. Maybe more people will sign on next Sunday.
- async13-83.qni.com - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:34:56 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
hello
- 84.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:36:52 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
How's the weather there Kathy? Hot, humid(by Utah standards) and dry here.
- proxy-383.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:39:01 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
It was rainy all day. Got thing because we really needed it.
- 84.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:39:36 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
We are under bans for water use because of it being so dry.
- 84.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:40:38 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Anyone there?
- 84.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:46:49 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Guess I'll sign off. See you next week.
- 84.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:47:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Just got back from a movie. Anyone still on?
- spider-wn062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:48:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I will check the sports scores and be right back.
- spider-wn062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:49:15 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Everyone have a good night and good week.
- spider-wn062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:51:55 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Jim
- proxy-381.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 01:54:29 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Is anyone still on?
- spider-wk032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 23, 1999 at 02:21:18 (GMT)
Helmuth:
Hi everyone, it looks like I will be at the Gottscheer get-together in Cleveland on Sunday before Labor Day. I will probably hang with the bus group from Ridgewood, including my mom Marie (Mimi) Kump and John Koenig. If you're around...look for my two young boys playing with Oma and say hello!
- gtwy.fishersci.com - Friday, August 27, 1999 at 20:06:34 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello, anyone there?
- 19.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:10:40 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, everybody! Hope you are all well. Eddie, did you log on tonight?
- async13-154.qni.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:17:06 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Helmuth: I'll be i at the treffen. I am coming from KCMO with about 10 other people. My aunt, Leni Yonke, is coming with the Ridgewood group. I hear 3 bus loads are coming from there. Hope I get to meet you.
- async13-154.qni.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:19:08 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi everybody,
What about Saturday for the Treffen?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:21:15 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello Holly
- 97.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:22:19 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Kathy,
How's everything?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:23:55 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Better than its been. My husband was in the hospital.
- 97.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:24:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh, How awful. What happened? When?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:25:38 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
He had severe chest pains and his blood pressure was 219 over 129. He passed out. Luckily we went to the hospital when the pains started. Most happened at the hospital. This was about a month ago. Thank God he is home now.
- 97.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:27:29 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
Where are you? Watching Discovery channel??
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:27:29 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ooo,
Was it hypertension or what? How long did they keep him?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:29:23 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
They won't say exactly what it was. They only kept him for three days. They did a complete physical on him Thursday. We think it was stress. He has had alot of that from work lately. He is the third person this year from his job that this has happened to.
- 97.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:30:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Do they have him on any medications for it?
How is his blood pressure, generally?
That is some pretty bad stress!!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:32:35 (GMT)
John Sorli:
I need some help especially from the Cleveland area. My cou-
sin Erna Nadler Matzelle from Glendale is going on the bus
to treffen and we are trying to locate the descendants of
our grandparent's first cousin Sophie Koenig Primosch (wife
of Anton). Erna's grandfather was Georg Nadler and my grandmother was Maria (Mary) Nadler Sorli, both from Ort.
Sophie was born in Mitterdorf but raised in Ort by our great-grandmother Magdalena Handler Nadler. Sophie Primosch
died on Jan.7 1990,age about 94, from St. Robert's Church.
She had a son Robert Primosch and a daughter Gertrude Grable
who died on July 4 ,1989,age 69. Sophie had 3 grandchildren;
Lee Grable,Lyn Grable and Diane Wingerter. She had 5 grandchildren; Lee,Christopher,Richard,Kelly,and Karen. I'm not sure of their last names.If anyone knows what happened to son Robert or any of grandchildren,or greatchildren, I would appreciate an e;mail at jfsort@yahoo.com or a call
at 516-679-7917 as soon as possible. Thanks.
- di103.nassaulibrary.org - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:34:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, everyone.
- spider-tf063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:34:50 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Jim,
Did you get my info on Neubacher 8?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:38:06 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
They have him on three medications,Norvasc,Hydrochlorothiazide, and Labetalol. His blood pressure has been 160 over 100 before the medication.
- 17.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:38:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, I was watching TDC as you guessed but I am taping the rest of it. How could I resist? Kathy, I am sorry to hear about your husband. Stress can certainly do a number on the blood pressure, however, he may have essential hypertension as well.
- spider-tf063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:38:15 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
They have him on three medications,Norvasc,Hydrochlorothiazide, and Labetalol. His blood pressure has been 160 over 100 before the medication.
- 17.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:38:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, yes I did. Thank you. I wonder if I can do genealogy underwater while exploring old sunken ships with a good bottle of wine for refreshment and a camera to take pictures.
- spider-tf063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:39:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Whew, Kathy,
Was he taking any meds before this episode? That's a pretty high blood pressure to start with.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:40:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy, Triple meds. Have they ever tested him for an underlying cause for his elevated blood pressure like renal artery stenosis?
- spider-tf063.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:40:39 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
He wasn't taking any before because he wouldn't go to the doctor. I finally had him convinced to go and then this happened. Hi Jim.
- 86.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:41:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
That sounds like fun to me. When we were in Bonaire, there was a Canadian professor teaching his class with a clipboard of paper and pencil. I thought hmmm. Why not?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:41:45 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Jim, They haven't checked him for that. What is it?
- 86.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:42:36 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well,
I am sure with those meds that his blood pressure is much better. I bet he feels alot better.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:43:49 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
They also put him on a diet. He doesn't like that much though.
- 86.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:44:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, re: the Nesseltal marriage records question -- I only have what is listed in the GHGA records and only the marriage to Gertrud was in there. The records were not the greatest and I found a lot of mistakes with names as well as ages/ dates. It seems like a mistake but who knows.
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:45:20 (GMT)
:
Kathy Milano: I'm so sorry to hear about your husband's blood pressure problems. I'm a retired teacher. We had a couple of teachers whose blood pressure got that high and they almost died. What kind of work does your husband do? Hope he is better soon. I'll be thinking of both of you.
- async13-154.qni.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:45:38 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
He is a custodian at a high school.
- 86.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:46:48 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I just happened find a Fritz in Tschermoschnitz records and that led me back to Nesselthal. Boy, was I sorry cause I am not enjoying the Nessethal records.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:47:17 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kathy, The vast majority of times high blood pressure has no discreet cause but sometimes when high blood pressure is hard to control, there may be a blockage to the artery going to the kidney that is causing the pressure to go up. They are probably going to see how he responds to the medications before looking at that possibility.
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:47:45 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Kathy Milano: Sorry forgot to type in my name. It's Margaret Jonke.
- async13-154.qni.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:48:05 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Thanks Jim and Margaret.
- 86.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:49:17 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I don't blame him for not liking the new diet.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:50:20 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must log off. Will probably have lots to tell next Sunday. Kathy, I'll say a prayer for both you and your husband. Auf Wiedersehen.
- async13-154.qni.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:51:12 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Since we both need to lose weight, I went on it with him. It makes it alot easier.
- 86.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:51:37 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Night Margaret.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:51:45 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Thanks Margaret and goodnight
- 86.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:52:29 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yes, that is the best way to do it. I certainly wouldn't want to see someone eating what I would "like" to eat, but can't!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:53:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, are you still around? I was just inputting the Neubacher information.
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:54:08 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I'm here Jim,
What's up?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:54:39 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I finally bought a new toy, a scanner for my computer. I needed something new. Don't know how to use it yet.
- 86.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:55:32 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Kathy,
I am not real good with new things, but I found the scanner fairly easy.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:56:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
You will like the Caymans. A lot of dive sites. Some good snorkeling as well but try to get to the east and north coast because it is less crowded. You have to do stingray city. It is "touristy" but fun.
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:57:37 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I haven't really spent anytime with it. Had to work alot of extra hours the last two weeks. We have a computer store next door and the guy gave it to me for cost.
- 86.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:58:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The scanner is fun. It is amazing how you can improve certain things in some photos. I worked on some scuba/snorkel pictures and really could bring out some interesting details.
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:58:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well, Stingray City is a definate for me. Of course I would like to see a spotted, eagle and manta. I have seen a bat ray but I wasn't in the water with it.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:59:22 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I have pictures of my grandparents I want to work on.
- 86.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 01:59:45 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Everybody!
- ppp5873.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:00:02 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hi Ridy
- 86.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:00:16 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Are you going to Bonaire next April?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:01:04 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Ridy,
We were just talking Scanners.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:02:08 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Depends on if we can make the switch. We put in for it but I think there are only two time shares on the island so I don't know what my chances are.
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:02:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
They have some manta rays around the Caymans. I hope you see one.
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:03:27 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Ridy.
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:03:38 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
Which time shares? Is Divi one of them?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:03:38 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I have great hopes that I will see one. My goal for Bonaire was to see a turtle and i saw many this year. Next year I want to see a nurse shark. I better learn to free dive.!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:05:05 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I've just been reading all the back messages - you've been having fun tonight!
- ppp5873.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:05:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hey,yes,
But we missed you. Glad you dropped in.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:06:57 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Christopher was here for dinner and I got another lesson on the computer - specifically the Scanner, Kathy. I do love my Scanner!
- ppp5873.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:08:33 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
We have had some strange weather here. Yesterday the air was very still and hot.
This afternoon the temperatures started dropping and the winds are blowing. No rain today yet, but it's brewing.
How about you, Ridy? You usually have the same weather as we do.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:09:38 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Ridy, I'm sure I will love mine too.
- 12.newark-45rs.nj-arlington-05rs.va.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:10:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, it was the Divi. Did see a nurse shark during the Sting Ray city trip near the reef.Holly, I have to go back to the Nesseltal marriages but I have two Mathias Stienes from Reichenau #21 so I am confused. I also don't understand why the marriage record would have Magd.Konig's grandparents listed as her parents.
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:11:56 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I have to sign off now. Hope to see you next week. Goodnight everyone.
- 155.newark-11-12rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:12:06 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
You're right about the weather -- yesterday was really hot and humid - very heavy and uncomfortable -- then it got windy at night, and the temperature dropped right into the low 60s! Absolutely beautiful and much to my liking. Tonight is supposed to be very cool again.......but not rain in the forecast.
- ppp5873.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:12:07 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good night, Kathy
- ppp5873.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:13:11 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
remember that the family book records are not complete and perhaps she was raised by her uncle.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:14:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, concerning Mathias Stiene, the 1831 birthyear must be wrong. Highly unlikely to have two children with same name in 1830-40's.
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:15:35 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Night Kathy,
Best wishes and thoughts for your husband and you.
Jim,
Which Stiene's?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:16:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Kathy. Good luck with the diet and BP.
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:16:17 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I'll leave you two genealogists to your work..
Good night!
- ppp5873.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:18:43 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, leaving so soon. Take care. We promise not to talk too much genealogy.
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:20:17 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, I think I figured out the Stienes. Just another Nesseltal inaccuracy. I think that marriage file was the most inaccurate of all the files I have gotten from the GHGA. Too much schnapps.
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:21:45 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Night Ridy.
Jim,
I am ready to call it a night also.
Give me the problem and I will look it up with the birth records to verify.
Are you going to the Treffen?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:21:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Concerning the Divi, I don't mind homey as long as it is not homely. Can you describe it further?
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:23:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Could not make the arrangements to get to Cleveland but I do hope to get out there in the next couple of months. Good night and thanks again.
- spider-wc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:23:53 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
If you are staying at the condos, they are cute but no t.v. or phones in the rooms. The appartments have both.
a self-sufficient kitchen in the condos.
2 great swimming pools. a very nice walk to the town.
"homey"
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, August 30, 1999 at 02:27:55 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Have fun at the Gottscheer Treffen in Cleveland!
- ppp5880.on.bellglobal.com - Friday, September 03, 1999 at 12:35:44 (GMT)
Ed Stalzer:
Hi everyone!
- 183.manchester-05-10rs.nh.dial-access.att.net - Monday, September 06, 1999 at 01:12:01 (GMT)
:
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- spider-tq011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 06, 1999 at 02:00:34 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hey,
Anyone still around tonight?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 06, 1999 at 03:17:25 (GMT)
urska stimec:
Hello!
I just want to ask, if someone has "Gottscheer Kalender" to sell. I am interested in all numbers from 1920 - 1940 or later.
e-mail: Urska.Stimec@siol.net
- 212.30.93.92 - Saturday, September 11, 1999 at 18:23:04 (GMT)
Helmuth:
Hello Gottscheers...Well my family made it to the Gottscheer Treffen on Labor Day Sunday. I was very impressed by the EOUV site, and we all had a great time. We met lots of old friends and relatives from Ridgewood. I hope to have some pictures that my son took (Mr. Amateur Photographer) soon.
- m27-vdial.sgi.net - Saturday, September 11, 1999 at 19:41:58 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
I too made it to the Treffen from New York. Didnt see
anyone from the Plauderzimmer (was looking at name tags all weekend). Yes, the EOUV site is quite impressive. This was
my third time there, and it seems nicer all the time.
I hope all who went made it to the museum upstairs in the main hall.
- nyf-ny-cache1.netcom.net - Sunday, September 12, 1999 at 00:40:12 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hello
- 133.newark-35-40rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:02:08 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there everyone,
If you went to the Treffen in Cleveland I hope you checked out the Lodge as My husband's cousin Heidi Koenig Klucher painted the 3 pictures on the wall. Rudy's uncle Fritz carved the Gottschee Seal on the wall. and Rudy's uncle Joe did the stairs.
Now, does anyone know who did the carvings upstairs? There is a beautiful wood carved map of Gottschee plus some Gottschee Seals.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:06:25 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Kathy,
How are you doing?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:07:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Holly. Got your emails. I guess it is a different type of thank you.
- spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:07:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Kathy and Tom.
- spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:08:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Thanks Jim,
I needed that! LOL!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:09:21 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello to everyone. Hope you all had a good week. We had a super time at the treffen. Just can't describe all the people we met. Anyone out there go to Cleveland??
- async13-49.qni.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:10:19 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Margaret,
I was there on Saturday for supper. Were you there?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:11:35 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
How was the food? Any krainerwurst? Most? Other specialties/
- spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:13:16 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Holly. I was there at the treffen. The workmanship was superb. The whole 30 some acres was beautiful. I understand the next project is a chapel. My father, Leo Jonke, learned his trade in Gottschee. He was a cabinet maker. Many other people learned the trade as well. What great craftsmen!
- async13-49.qni.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:14:11 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
No Krainerwurst on Saturday. Ridy has promised me I would have my Krainerwurst if I go to the Toronto Treffen next year. Now that sounds tempting!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:16:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, when I went through the resettlement records of 1941, there were many furniture and cabinet makers listed. Farming was the most common but working with wood was high up there.
- spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:17:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
No---- Krainerwurst. Maybe Toronto.
- spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:17:38 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good evening, everybody: While you are all discussing this year's Treffen, don't forget to mark your calendars for the Treffen next year here in TORONTO!
- ppp1288.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:17:58 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Aha - I see my name has already been mentioned in connection with Krainerwurst! We shall not disappoint you!
- ppp1288.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:19:04 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
The food was scrumptious. The women worked like dogs to prepare and serve the meals. Many people mentioned that the club members did all the building themselves and never asked for outside help. Amazing! I was astounded at the amount of beer they drank! Not a beer drinker myself. The 5 buses from NY on-loaded quite a bit of beer for the return trip. My Tante Leni Yonke said they also had soda.
- async13-49.qni.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:19:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Not much on beer myself. One or two a week but I do like the wursts. Margaret, what did they have?
- spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:20:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
Saturday we had kraut salad, swiss steak, mashed potatoes, pork roast, struedel. Yummy
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:25:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Sounds good to me. It all sounds good but the pork roast and the strudel have piqued my interest.
- spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:26:14 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
As Margaret said, these ladies are really something. They cooked and served so many. I don't know how they did it.and put on such a good dinner!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:27:56 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Hi, Sorry I had to step away for a minute. Holly, everything is fine thanks.
- 152.newark-05-10rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:29:26 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim,
My father was apprenticed at age 14. Just like in the Renaissance apprentice programs. The new students made coffins. The local cabinetmaker was also the funeral director. My father delivered the coffins to the family, often at night, by horse and wagon. Pretty scary, he said.Then they were given more involved jobs to do. But the coffin-making really made an impression on him.
- async13-49.qni.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:30:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Welcome back, Kathy.
- spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:30:15 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Thanks Jim.
- 152.newark-05-10rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:30:42 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Margaret,
My husband's grandfather August Koenig built the side alter of the Wretzen Church. His mother tells of the celebration they held with decorated horses and carts
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:34:56 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, anything left of that church or is it one of the many destroyed buildings?
- spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:36:10 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
It was pretty much destroyed but I heard they plan to re-do it. I don't know what became of the Alter.
August also did many carvings and furniture in the Castle. I wonder if any of that survived.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:38:15 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
At the Treffen, Karl Moschner told how
August Koenig, Johan Samida, and Spreitzer would take the 4 hour walk to Nesselthal to play there music for weddings, etc.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:40:16 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must sign off. Till next Sunday. Blibt gesund. Auf Wiedersehen.
- async13-49.qni.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:41:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Good night Margaret,
Take care.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:43:00 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I don't have a Langenton #30 on my census.
Also, Is anyone working on Mooswald?
I met Doug Koestner through the e-mail and he needs help.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:44:49 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
Anything new on your Cousin?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:45:50 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
Bye Margaret
- 152.newark-05-10rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:45:56 (GMT)
Kathy Kump Milano:
I have to say goodnight also. My part time job has turned into a full time job. I have to go in early.
- 152.newark-05-10rs.nj.dial-access.att.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:46:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Bye Kathy,
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:47:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I wonder if it was a misprint for Altlag#30. Do you have any more information about the Altlag#30 household that might help. Only a couple of names from Mooswald in the file and none of them connect with Kostner or Koestner.
- spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:47:57 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well,
I guess I will say good-night also. Take care everyone.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:48:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, anymore information on Edwin Eppich re: names and dates??
- spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:48:55 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Goodnight, Holly, Kathy and Margaret. Ridy, are you still hanging around?
- spider-tj081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:49:44 (GMT)
Ridy:
I'm back -- am I too late?
- ppp1288.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 01:53:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Could be. Are you still here or a we playing message tag.
- spider-tj053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 02:00:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I will do a little more typing and then recheck. You could email me if you are going to come back.
- spider-tj053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 02:00:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Guten Nacht.
- spider-tj053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 13, 1999 at 02:06:54 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, everyone. Got a new computer this week. Very complicated. Am having trouble getting used to it. Hope all of you are well. We have a speaker, so we can talk to people who have the same equipment. Will wonders never cease!! Eddie, I hope you log on tonight.
- KSCYB111-10.splitrock.net - Sunday, September 19, 1999 at 21:23:04 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hey! It's 8:15 here in KCMO. Where is everybody tonight?
- KSCYB109-17.splitrock.net - Monday, September 20, 1999 at 01:14:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Margaret,
I agree with you, Where is everyone?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, September 20, 1999 at 01:17:34 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi everyone!
- slip166-72-189-182.me.us.ibm.net - Monday, September 20, 1999 at 01:23:50 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie, How are you and Nancy, and Krista. Haven't quite figured out your new email. Could you email me and clarify the address. I must have copied it wrong. Hope all is well in New Hamp. We sure had a good time at the treffen.
- KSCYB109-17.splitrock.net - Monday, September 20, 1999 at 01:26:23 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
I am glad you had fun at the Treffen! We are all doing great here in NH. It has been getting cooler at night, in the 40s, at the trees are starting to turn. My new email is estalze@banet.net (without the "r")
- slip166-72-189-182.me.us.ibm.net - Monday, September 20, 1999 at 01:32:47 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guess things are slow tonight. Will sign off. Guten nacht und alles Gute. See you next week. Bye Eddie. My love to Nancy and Krista.
- KSCYB109-17.splitrock.net - Monday, September 20, 1999 at 01:36:06 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Everybody!
Just got the last load of dishes into the dishwasher.
Anybody here? We're having the most glorious weather up here - and we totally escaped Floyd, for which we are grateful.
- ppp1294.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, September 20, 1999 at 01:53:50 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Anybody still here??
- spider-ta044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 20, 1999 at 02:10:58 (GMT)
Helmuth:
Ridy: do you have the dates for the Treffen in Toronto next year?
- gtwy.fishersci.com - Tuesday, September 21, 1999 at 18:11:42 (GMT)
Ridy:
As far back as I remember, Helmuth, it's always Labor Day weekend (that's Labour Day in Canada!) and I expect it'll be the same next year -- but I'll check and make sure and let you know a.s.a.p.
- ppp966.on.bellglobal.com - Wednesday, September 22, 1999 at 01:39:01 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, everyone. Hope you all had a super week. Eddie, are you on tonight?
- KSCYB103-17.splitrock.net - Monday, September 27, 1999 at 01:28:08 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Will log off. Guten Nacht. Blibt Gesund. See you all next Sunday night.
- KSCYB103-17.splitrock.net - Monday, September 27, 1999 at 01:34:09 (GMT)
JIm Heimann:
Hello anyone.
- spider-te054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 27, 1999 at 01:44:44 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello everybody. Hope all are well. Can only stay on a short time tonight. Have things to do. Very wet and chilly in KCMO. Definitely fall. Eddie, I hope you can log on. My best to Nancy and Krista.
- KSCYB208-16.splitrock.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 00:56:37 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Well, must sign off now. Guten nacht. Blibt gesund. Till next Sunday night.
- KSCYB208-16.splitrock.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:06:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there everyone,
It was a great day today, but the snow clouds hover above. It is raining tonight.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:23:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, are you still here?
- spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:32:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, are you still here?
- spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:32:31 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Still here Jim
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:33:22 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Still here Jim
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:33:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
sent you an email re: Thomas Kump
- spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:37:44 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The information fits like a glove but I have a discrepancy with his aunt, Rosa or Rosalia. I have it listed that she married Josef Jonke and he has it that she died in childbirth (or maybe while she was giving birth).
- spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:39:10 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yep, saw the e-mail. I have Rosa marrying Josef Jonke also.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:39:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
He is going to be surprised with the information at his finger tips. Did you have all the children's information? I think I got some of it from the resettlement records.
- spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:41:03 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I didn't send the birth dates. Do you have those? I just saw the message so I haven't verfied any of it yet.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:42:08 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have been sprinkling genealogy messages here and there. I checked another Gottscheer site and found a message posted by a Robert Nick who went to the same high school as I did. I had a little information about his family and sent it along.
- spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:42:50 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Wow that is interesting. What other Gottschee site??
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:44:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I can email you what I have on the birthdates as an attachment.
- spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:44:40 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
That would be great.
Did the fax turn out o.k. I thought it was pretty light.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:45:51 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The email is on the way. I don't have the name of the site. I just plugged in the word, Gottschee, and surfed the sites. This one was mostly in German which I could translate (for the most part). I knew what he was writing and could tell he went to my high school in Manhattan.
- spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:47:17 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The fax was fine. I have to get my hands on the old Gottscheer Trees. I am sure there is information in there that would like to find its way into an FTM file or two.
- spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:48:14 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Now how could you tell he went to your school??
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:48:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
He said it in the message. He said his name and stated that he went to Regis High School in New York with someone named Kiss and was wondering if the person who created that particular site was related to his classmate.
- spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:50:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
He started the year after I graduated so I didn't know either of them.
- spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:51:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
What did you think about the Kostner information that I sent you? I think it is a legitimate connection although I don't know where it fits in for the sender of the inquiry.
- spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:52:58 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Talk about a small world. Sometimes I am amazed at the stories of people meeting.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:53:04 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yes, I couldn't connect him either. Yet!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:54:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I find it interesting to look at the emigration patterns of the Gottscheers. Although there are a lot of places that they went to, Ridgewood, Cleveland, Canada, and Kansas City pop up frequently.
- spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:55:31 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I guess that is what interests Karl Moschner the most too.
He would be the one to speak to.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:57:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Karl is compiling a large database but it is not computerized so it will be difficult to use in a genealogy sense. Once it is computerized, it can be accessed so easily and the information sent to others looking for their ancestors.
- spider-wb044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 01:59:54 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I will look at the Kump info later and see if I can fill in any info.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 02:00:05 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
What an interesting undertaking. just press "search"
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 02:02:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am fading and will be signing off. I think Ridy is visiting a relative this weekend. I am surprised more people don't hop into the chat room. I would like to learn more about the Gottscheer migration and life in the homeland.
- spider-wb044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 02:05:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Have a good evening and email me if you need anything.
- spider-wb044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 02:05:52 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I agree with you. I sure do miss everyone. Maybe this winter will bring them out.
Take care. and good night
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 04, 1999 at 02:06:43 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Sorry I missed the chat again on Sunday night. I am having a hard time remembering it. Will try again this week. I have been working on the microfilms for Bistriz, and am finding lots of ancestors.
- spider-tp043.proxy.aol.com - Tuesday, October 05, 1999 at 02:45:29 (GMT)
bridget Putre:
Hi, everone found this page and I am very exited to join you all for a chat on Sunday. i have been in "Kocevje" this summer and it was really cool to actually see it. Look forward to messages.
- spider-to017.proxy.aol.com - Wednesday, October 06, 1999 at 23:26:33 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
Hi!!! do i know anyone here?
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 00:43:08 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
I thought people chat here....i'm the only one.....i'll be back soon.....
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 00:44:44 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Joanie:
You're right - people do chat here - be patient and other's will join in shortly.
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 00:57:13 (GMT)
Thomas Stalzer:
Hello All. Greetings from Glendale!
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 00:57:54 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Thomas!
I hear it's raining down where you are -
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 00:58:58 (GMT)
:
Hi Ridy! yes, its been raining on and off the whole day. Stoped about 3 hours ago...
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 00:59:49 (GMT)
Thomas Stalzer:
oops, it didnt remember my name for some reason..
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:00:19 (GMT)
Ridy:
I was in the Pearl River, NY, and Warren, NJ area this past week. Lovely countryside! Didn't realize you had so many hills and valleys. Also saw some of the area where the floods caused by huricane Floyd did a lot of damage....awful
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:02:35 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, everybody! Hope everyone is well. Beautiful Indian summer here in KCMO. 80 today and tomorrow. But the cold will come soon enough. Thomas Stalzer, my great-grandmother was Ursula Stalzer. Could we be distant cousins? Always like to find new cousins.
- KSCYB103-19.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:03:55 (GMT)
Thomas Stalzer:
What part of Gottschee was your great-grandmother from?
Stalzer is a very common name....
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:05:11 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Margaret!
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:05:31 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Great grandma lived in Kummerdorf. She married Andy Jonke my great grandfather. I have Stalzer cousins from Ridgewood. Eddie Stalzer sometimes logs on to the plauderzimmer. Hope he does tonight!
- KSCYB103-19.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:06:48 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Ridy! Hope you are well. Hope lots of people log in tonight.
- KSCYB103-19.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:07:28 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
Is anyone on line yet?
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:07:41 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Bridget -
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:09:14 (GMT)
Thomas Stalzer:
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:09:29 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Bridget. Glad you could join us. Have you been logging in regularly. I just don't remember meeting you in the chatroom before. I live in Kansas City, Mo. Were you at the treffen in Cleveland?
- KSCYB103-19.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:09:32 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
This is the first time I'am chatting with you all. Any German speaking people?
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:10:17 (GMT)
Ridy :
Ja freilich! Aber hier sprechen wir zum groessten Teil nur
Englisch.
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:11:04 (GMT)
Ridy :
Ja freilich! Aber hier sprechen wir zum groessten Teil nur
Englisch.
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:11:07 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
Hi Margret and ridy, I didn,t know there was a meeitng in Cleveland. When was that?
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:11:26 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Bridget: I wish I knew more German than I do. I keep a little notebook of handy German phrases. I use them to sign off on Sunday night. Sorry
- KSCYB103-19.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:11:27 (GMT)
Ridy :
You see what happens when you speak a 'foreign' language?
You develop and echo!
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:12:02 (GMT)
Ridy :
Bridget -- the next big meeting of Gottscheers will be Labor Day weekend 2000, right here in beautiful Toronto and attendance is compulsory for all chat room participants -
according to my own decree.
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:13:57 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Bridget: The treffen was Labor Day week-end in Cleveland. About 600 people came. What a blast! We had 13 people from KCMO go, but 5 busloads came from NY. My aunt from Mahopac,NY, was one. Her name is LeniJonke.
- KSCYB103-19.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:14:30 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
I was born in Graz, Austria and live sine 8 years in Denver. Visited "Kocevje " this Summer. Quite the Trip.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:14:50 (GMT)
Ridy :
Well, fancy meeting you here, Bridget. I attended the Ursulinenkloster on Leonhardtstrasse, and went skating on the Hilmteich every day when there was ice! And a favorite outing was to Maria Trost and second favorite was trying to beat my brother running down the stairs on the Schlossberg!
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:16:44 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
Wow, this is [pretty amazing. One year ago I wasn't even sure "Gottschee" really existed and here I am chatting with other people interrested in their heritage. I love it!
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:16:48 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi everyone. I finally remembered to sign on for Sunday night.....
- spider-wo014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:16:55 (GMT)
Ridy :
Hi Mary! Welcome to the group!
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:17:53 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Bridget: My relatives talk about Graz, Austria, all the time. Many of them lived there, before coming to US. I had some cousins in Littleton,CO. The village where my father and his family were born is gone now. We only have a painting of the village church. My brother has it now.
- KSCYB103-19.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:17:54 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Could you tell me exactly what a treffen is????
- spider-wo014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:17:58 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
Ridy, I can't believe it. This feels a little like "Twihlight Zone". I grew up very close to St. Leonard.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:18:37 (GMT)
Ridy :
Mary - it's like a gathering of the clans -- all the Gottscheers who can get together once a year - this year it was in Cleveland, next year it's Toronto, then Kitchener, I think and then New York.
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:19:31 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Margaret, I live in Canon City. My son lives in Littleton.
- spider-wo014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:19:33 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
Mary: A "Treffen" is a get together
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:19:58 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
A treffen sounds like it would be lots of fun. Like our family reunions.
- spider-wo014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:20:10 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Treffen means reunion or gathering. Many memories were exchanged at the treffen. Many tears shed, too. It was great!
- KSCYB103-19.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:20:45 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
Mary, is this Littleton, Co.?
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:21:08 (GMT)
Ridy :
Bridget -
St. Leonhard was our parish church -- but for Mai Andacht I preferred the Leechkirche or the Herz Jesu Kirche. I lived in the Markhof - which has 3 addresses - Schubertstrasse 16, Leechgasse 8 and Geidorfguertel 21 -- sound familiar?
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:21:50 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes in Colorado.
- spider-wo014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:22:18 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
Hi! I was here before, left, came back.....do I know any of you?
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:22:33 (GMT)
Ridy :
Thomas - were did you go? Are you still there?
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:23:00 (GMT)
jim heimann:
good evening to everyone.
- 1Cust189.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:23:34 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
Ridy, I am not sure I just remeber my Father live in St. Georgengasse. Fancy meeting you here, how long in the U.S.? And how often do you go home?
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:23:51 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
My cousin, Barbara, went back to find the village cemetery and was told during the era of Tito all the grave markers and monuments were pulled up, ground up, and used to pave the streets. Anybody know if that is true??
- KSCYB103-19.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:24:01 (GMT)
Ridy :
Hi Jim!
Did you get that fax I sent you yesterday?
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:24:11 (GMT)
Thomas Stalzer:
Ridy - were you in Clevelend? I didnt see/meet anyone from the plauderzimmer...
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:24:22 (GMT)
Thomas Stalzer:
I'm here. Just went to check on a few things...
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:25:18 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Ridy, I got it. I thought I emailed you about it but I must have forgotten to. Thank you. Plugged the information in but no link with either of the Hogler lines in her family.
- 1Cust189.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:25:31 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Jim. We have someone new on tonight--Bridget. This is exciting!
- KSCYB103-19.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:25:41 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
Were any of you in Cleveland? My Oma went. How did you all find out about this page?
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:25:56 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
I'm new too!!! ;)
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:26:14 (GMT)
Ridy :
Actually, Margaret, they even paved over the cemetary in the City of Gottschee. What they couldn't use, they pretty much destroyed or vandalized. To say it wasn't pretty is the understatement of the century. (well, in view of recent history, maybe not quite)
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:26:17 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
Yes, when I was in Kocevje there wasn't a lot there in terms of graves but there was a museum. I bought a book and I can sent copies to anyone interrested.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:26:53 (GMT)
jim heimann:
The link to Kukendorf has to be prior to 1854 since the rest of her Hoglers are in the Mitterdorf parish with the "loschin" towns - Unter, Ober, Nieder. I did locate some information that she did not have and sent it along.
- 1Cust189.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:27:00 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Hello Bridget and Joanie.
- 1Cust189.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:27:47 (GMT)
Ridy :
Thomas - no, I couldn't go at the end and missed it, much to my regret. But I do hope to see everyone here in Toronto!
And in Kitchener!
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:28:09 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
Hi!!!!!!!
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:28:10 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
hello Jim
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:28:22 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
And hello Joanie
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:28:44 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Joanie. We're so glad to have you on with us. Ridy: My cousin found it to be a very sad visit. They had coffee to give to our distant cousins there and the border guards took it away from them. If a guy's got a gun and wants your coffee, there's no argument.
- KSCYB103-19.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:28:48 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Anyone hear from Holly?
- 1Cust189.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:29:03 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
Ridy, what's Kitchener?
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:29:19 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
Margaret: who would take coffee? if you don't mind my asking....
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:30:31 (GMT)
Ridy :
Bridget -
I've lived in Canada for the past 51 years (that's not a typing error!) I came over here when I was 12 years old - in 1948. I haven't been back since 1988. . .
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:30:33 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Named after a great British general, Lord Kitchener. Soldier and statesman.
- 1Cust189.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:30:34 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Joanie: I'm so glad to see you use the word Oma. It reminds me of my own Oma from
Gottschee. She lived to be 96 and is buried in Brooklyn,NY.Great Grandma Jonke was 97, when she died back in Gottschee. My sister bought a map at the treffen. It has the old names and the new names for the towns.
- KSCYB103-19.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:31:44 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
Ridy, so you're my father's generation. I have an uncle in toronto.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:32:11 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have been finding lots of ancestors in the records from Bistriz.
- spider-wo014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:32:44 (GMT)
Ridy :
OK Bridget -
Kitchener is a City in Ontario, Canada -- it's also known as the Oktoberfest capital of North America -- and the Oktoberfest is on right now. I think this is where I got us in trouble last year, right?
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:32:58 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
My Oma lived to be 97 asweel. Tough blood the Gottscheers. i think.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:33:27 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
Where in brooklyn? because i'm from glendale, which is right next to ridgewood, if you've heard of it, and that is the border of brooklyn and queens.....How'd u find this chat?
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:33:47 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Joanie, My cousin said the border guards took lots of stuff that visitors brought to their relatives. I guess they had a taste for good coffee. Anyway, I have never had the urge to go there. Such a sad situation.
- KSCYB103-19.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:34:37 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
My Great-Opa lived to 92 1/2
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:34:47 (GMT)
Ridy :
Jim -
Haven't heard from Holly all week --
Thanks for all the digging you're doing on behalf of us Hoeglers - it's much appreciated.
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:34:51 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
it just seemed stupid to me...that's all
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:35:17 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
Found this chat by "surving the net". keyword Gottschee
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:35:17 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Joanie, I am from Bushwick. Lived on Gates Avenue just south of the el.
- 1Cust189.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:35:23 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
Joanie, what seems stupid?
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:36:03 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Ridy, not a problem. I am waiting for a response from Doreen. Hopefully I can dig further.
- 1Cust189.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:36:27 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
I don't know bushwick too well....but i take the m train to school does that count?
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:36:48 (GMT)
Bridget Putre:
Has anyone heard the name Putre before, my grandparents had a hairdressing salon on the right side of the church in Gootschee
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:37:07 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
that people would haul off coffee with guns get your own you know?
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:37:23 (GMT)
Ridy :
By the way -- just to confuse you - Kitchener used to be
called "Berlin" because the majority of people who settled there were of German descent
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:37:36 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
I found this through my uncle's website...since we r gottscheer
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:38:08 (GMT)
Ridy :
Bridget - I've certainly heard the name Putre before.
Is your uncle by any chance in the Dom Lipa Retirement Home here in Toronto?
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:39:24 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Tom Stalzer, did you have relatives married to a Peschel from Bistriz?
- spider-wo014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:40:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Joanie, I think most of us got to the chat room using a search engine. What part of Gottschee did your Kump relatives come from?
- spider-wn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:40:29 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
i'm not sure.....hold on...i'll ask my parents
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:41:13 (GMT)
:
Ridy, I really don't know . It's possible, my father's brothers and I had a sort of "disagreement at my Father's furneral and I haven't spoken to them since.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:41:15 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
my Opa came from unterbuchberg and my Oma came from Neugreuth i think....
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:42:35 (GMT)
:
I'd love to make peace with them. you know blood is thicker than water.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:42:37 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
I really must say Guten nacht. Work to do yet. This has been a super night. New people to chat with. New information, etc. Blibt gesund.
- KSCYB103-19.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:43:42 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Can you give me a name and house? I have a decent amount of information on the Kumps of Unterbuchberg.
- spider-wn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:44:03 (GMT)
Ridy :
There's no time like the present to make peace, Bridget.
And somebody usually has to go first.
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:44:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Guten nacht, Margaret. Have a good week.
- spider-wn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:44:35 (GMT)
Ridy :
Gute Nacht, Margaret, und bleib gesund!
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:45:06 (GMT)
Thomas Stalzer:
Joanie - I'm in Glendale too!
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:45:06 (GMT)
:
Ernst? i don't know what house...I'm sorry.
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:45:22 (GMT)
bridget putre:
Ridy, I believe if something is supposed to happen it will happen. It's great to know you.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:45:35 (GMT)
bridget putre:
gute nacht margaret und nett zu plaudern!
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:46:10 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
sorry. forgot 2 put in my name. my Opa's name was ernst and i dont know what house
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:46:46 (GMT)
Ridy :
Sometimes, Bridget, you have to make it happen. . .
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:46:52 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
Thomas, do you know a julia?
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:47:17 (GMT)
bridget putre:
I also will turn in for tonight, it's been wonderful to connect with you all. Will chat again next week. Till then Tschau
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:47:19 (GMT)
Thomas Stalzer:
Julia what? Stalzer? No
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:47:48 (GMT)
Ridy :
Thomas --
Do you happen to know my step-cousin, Paula Gliebe Miklitsch
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:47:51 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
where abouts in glendale?
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:47:51 (GMT)
bridget putre:
Ridy, what wonderful words of wisdom.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:48:00 (GMT)
Joanie Kump:
no not stalzer, jongbloed
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:48:18 (GMT)
Ridy :
Ciao, Bridget! 's war nett!
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:48:40 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Thomas, did any of your Stalzers marry a Peschel?
- spider-wo014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:48:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Joanie, can you give me the name of Oma or Ernst's birthdate or year? I have six Ernst Kump listings from Unterbuchberg with five possibilities as your Opa.
- spider-wn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:49:20 (GMT)
Thomas Stalzer:
Nope. How old is she? I'm 33. I'm near the forest hills border...union turnpike area.
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:49:25 (GMT)
Thomas Stalzer:
Mary - nope. not that I know off.
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:49:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Goodnight, Bridget.
- spider-wn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:50:04 (GMT)
Joanie :
sorry everybody......i have to go.....right in the middle of all this too.....bye....
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:50:59 (GMT)
Ridy :
Thomas - I'm way off base on this one! She's old enough to be your great-grandmother!
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:51:04 (GMT)
Joanie :
goodnight
- 1Cust64.tnt4.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:51:11 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Tom, I have a Stalzer listed that married a Peschel in Bistriz. Don't remember off hand what town she was from.
- spider-wo014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:51:25 (GMT)
Ridy :
'bye Joanie
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:51:43 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Joanie.
- spider-wn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:52:14 (GMT)
Thomas Stalzer:
Who is Ridy? I'm confused. I was replying to Joanies question when I mentioned my age
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:52:29 (GMT)
Ridy :
Confusion reigns supreme... I thought I had asked you if you by chance knew a step-cousin of mine, Paula Gliebe Miklitsch
but I can't even find my quesiton anymore. Never mind!
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:56:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am glad I am not in this one. I can't follow it at all.
- spider-wn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:57:26 (GMT)
Ridy :
By the way, Jim, Paula's birthday is on Oct. 9 -- talked to her today -- she was probably baptized on the 18th
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 01:58:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Is this Paula the daughter of Alois? John Herbst has her birthday as I listed it to you with the christening on the 19th. He cites the birth microfilm as the source. That is usually pretty reliable.
- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:02:10 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Thomas, are you still here. I have some Stalzer relatives. Do you know Eduard or Viktor?
- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:03:27 (GMT)
Ridy:
That's the one. I know John is very reliable - I haven't found any errors before - but when I asked Paula if she had anything planned for her birthday she said they hadn't done anything special - and then told me her birthday is on the 9th - but she wouldn't confirm the year of her birth! She was playing coy on that one!
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:05:15 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Time to sign off. Have a good week. Ridy, I will keep you informed of any Hogler sightings.
- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:06:06 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gute Nacht, Jim. . .
Hope you find us some some Hoegler relatives!
- 206.172.235.236 - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:06:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I wonder if she has her birthday wrong. Sometimes things are lost or changed when people emigrate. It probably isn't the first time.
- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:07:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Gute Nacht. Is it Gute or Guten???
- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:07:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there,
Where is everyone?
We had company that have just left. Anyone out there?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:10:16 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello Holly
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:11:27 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there,
I was just catching up on all the messages.
How's your research going?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:14:05 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have found lots of Peschel ancestors.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:14:35 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
That is great. There must be a few of the Peschels in Tschermoschnitz too.
How far back were you able to get so far?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:15:27 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Holly!
Jim - you may well be right on her birthday -- after all, it was long ago - - -
It's Gute Nacht - night being feminine - der Tag; die Nacht
you know all those articles! We had a favourite joke which went that some people manage to use all 3 articles for one noun -- das die der Teifel hohl! Which is strictly dialect and not kosher
- ppp376.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:16:03 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Ridy,
How's everything? Loved your message about your new relatives!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:17:17 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have marriage records back to 1800, have not ordered birth records back that far yet.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:18:14 (GMT)
Ridy:
Well, Jim says he hasn't linked us up yet -- but if there's no direct link, we'll just adopt them, OK Jim?!
- ppp376.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:18:40 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
I'd say that was pretty good. It is always wonderful to find those links. Are they mostly from Bistriz?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:19:23 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
Well, it can't be any different that me adopting the whole Gottschee community. I can't find my Shust origins so I just suppose they came from Gottschee.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:20:56 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly, yes so far they are all from Bistriz, inter married with people from other towns, tho.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:21:23 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
At least you have found them. It is so exciting to keep linking them.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:22:41 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hey, and we're glad you adopted us! How's Marc? I still haven't met Emma - but soon! Maybe we could arrange for an introduction a bit down the line?
- ppp376.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:23:14 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes, I am enjoying it and learning a lot.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:24:17 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Marc is 9 months old now. Smiles most of the time. Walking around the furniture. Has 6 teeth.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:25:17 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
If I found some Krainerwurst, how would I cook it?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:26:14 (GMT)
Ridy:
'bye Mary and Holly -
busy day tomorrow -- it's our Canadian Thanksgiving and my kids will expect a feast when they come home! Haven't seen them in a couple of weeks or has it been a month?
G'night
- ppp376.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:26:28 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
I can understand about the learning alot! I am not familiar with that area as I have never had to do any research there yet. Hopefully, you will soon be our expert for that area.!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:28:18 (GMT)
Ridy:
Krainerwurst! That got my attention!
You just simmer it gently to heat it up -- pretty much like frankfurters. And serve them with Sauerkraut and mashed potatoes. And a nice mustard, of course. And the guys will like their beer with that.
- ppp376.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:28:57 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Night Ridy,
Have a happy Thanksgiving!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:28:59 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
My sister is waiting to chat with me. We will be on vacation next sunday so see you in a couple of weeks. Good night.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:29:06 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yummy! I know of a Gottscheer Meat Market. Now I will go there and ask for it. I will get it sooner or later!
Thanks!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:30:01 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Good night Mary,
It was nice talking to you. Have a great vacation
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 02:30:47 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Someone please translate this for me:
und nett zu plaudern and Tschau. Thanks a bunch.
- KSCYB105-18.splitrock.net - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 13:41:31 (GMT)
John:
The translation is:nice to chat and goodbye.
- user-2ive1eu.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, October 11, 1999 at 14:45:55 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Dear John, Thank you so much for the translation. I do appreciate it. Hope you see you on line Sunday night.
- KSCYB105-44.splitrock.net - Tuesday, October 12, 1999 at 17:40:21 (GMT)
nina:
hi! i`m here for my gran! her name is annemarie schneider,searching for relatives,anyone know her.she is espacially searching for her cousin milred, who lives in brooklyn
- vienna03.teleweb.at - Saturday, October 16, 1999 at 09:36:46 (GMT)
werner perz:
nice to see your chat. Its a pity that it is during night in Austria, so i cant take part. But about Krainerwurst:
If some of it remains after dinner, you can cut it to slices and bake it together with smashed eggs. Again with beer, but for men and women! My mother made it often. She is from Rain/Mitterndorf (Petsche). Have a nice time, Werner
- is.too.much.on.irc.at - Saturday, October 16, 1999 at 11:28:19 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Werner - your comments brought a smile to my face! For some reason, in Austria 'scrambled eggs' is translated as
'smashed eggs'....the image that conjures up is quite amusing! Even a Penguin cookbook translation reads "beat up the eggs" and "smash the eggs"! Maybe the translator had too much beer! Servus, und melde Dich doch bitte wieder!
- ppp5622.on.bellglobal.com - Saturday, October 16, 1999 at 11:44:33 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, everyone. I'm late. Hope you all had a good week. Thanks for the translation I asked for "und nett zu plaude and tschau. rn
- KSCYB107-12.splitrock.net - Monday, October 18, 1999 at 01:20:10 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Baseball game is still on. 14th inning. Guess I shou
go and watch it. Must be some kind of a record. ld
- KSCYB107-12.splitrock.net - Monday, October 18, 1999 at 01:23:37 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I've suffered enough...That game is at least two hours too long already!
- 206.172.235.214 - Monday, October 18, 1999 at 01:43:11 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Think I'll go practice my Weanerisch!
- 206.172.235.214 - Monday, October 18, 1999 at 01:44:12 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi everyone,
Sorry I missed the chat but all I can say is "Grand Slam"
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, October 18, 1999 at 02:05:43 (GMT)
Ridy:
WOW! What an exciting ending to a dreary game!
- ppp19524.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, October 18, 1999 at 02:07:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Anyone hanging around? Will check in every now and then.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:09:22 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Jim! Guess everybody is watching the baseball game...
It's too cold for baseball already!
- ppp356.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:12:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi Ridy, I was watching a little of it but I agree that baseball has overstayed its welcome.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:16:50 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi gang,
Got home from shopping a couple of hours ago and have been hard at work on Nesselthal records, (thanks to the nameless)
Love the sleuthing. and I "always" will have time for my genealogy.
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:17:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Nameless, nameless- that would not be me?
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:20:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I want to hear that after the second grandchild.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:20:52 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have some good puzzles for you.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:21:16 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Holly!
- ppp356.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:21:22 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Lol!
How soon a Grandmother forgets!
yes, I was baby clothes shopping (yellow and white)
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:22:09 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, everyone. Hope everyone is well. Very chilly here in KCMO. Had a 5 day trip to Dallas-Ft Worth last week. No Gottscheers there, just cowboys.
- KSCYB206-12.splitrock.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:22:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Ridy,
I am not much of a baseball fan either. Especially this late in the season!
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:22:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Margaret,
How was the Dallas weather.
It has been very rainy here today.
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:23:55 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Margaret! Hey - I had an uncle who was a cowboy out West somewhere! And he grew up in Ebental!
- ppp356.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:24:37 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
The Kobetitsch's all matched.
That other question is to far back for me. That is definately a "Helen" question.
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:25:24 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Holly, The Dallas weather was wonderful. 70's by day. 40's by night. Quite a change from 110 in August and much appreciated by the natives. Week before we went, the temp was in the 90's, then a cool front came through.
- KSCYB206-12.splitrock.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:25:46 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I had some Roth relatives that settled in Oregon
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:26:21 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Riday, Everybody's a cowboy there. A man from Finland who was attending our convention bought a big cowboy hat. I think he thought he was John Wayne. I told him it was cool, but it really didn't suit him at all.
- KSCYB206-12.splitrock.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:27:17 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Margaret,
Now that is my kind a weather. Oh well, next Sunday I will be in Grand Cayman. Bet it's very warm. Hope the hurricanes aren't there.!
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:27:55 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must log off. Need to call my son in Fargo, ND. Will talk to all of you next week. Blibt gesund. Auf Wiedersehen.
- KSCYB206-12.splitrock.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:30:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, Thanks for the Kobetitsch information. I guess the merge function works well to point out possible links. A lot of them don't pan out.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:30:24 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Take care Margaret,
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:30:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, can I come? I can be your guide. Remember, it is pricey so space the dinners or you will not have enough money to return to Cleveland.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:31:37 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Margaret.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:31:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I will send what I got on those names as soon as I can. I have their birthdates.
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:32:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
We are staying at an all-inclusive guest house. 2 chefs, their own dive team. the water is very close with a great area to snorkle(so they say). Thanks for the info on the food. We will make a couple of trips to the big city. We are staying at the end of the Island, near where you stayed.
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:34:57 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, how about this one --- Elisabeth Meditz married to Peter Hiris with son, Mathias Hiris abt 1803 Altfriesach#7 who married Maria Maichin. Elisabeth Meditz married to Peter Weiss with children, Maria Weiss abt 1809 and Josef Weiss abt 1807 both in Altfriesach#7.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:35:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Was Elisabeth married to two Peters---- First, Hiris and then Weiss or was the marriage record translation inaccurate? It had to be the same Elisabeth since the children were all born in the same house.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:36:24 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh Lord,
I will have to copy that one down so I can make sense of it in my brain.(no jokes please, I am senile, remember)
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:37:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, haven't heard back from Doreen Hogler. I have some information on Autumn but there are spouse names missing.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:37:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, can you print out the page? AOL allows you to print the chat room messages.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:39:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, I told you that I had some good ones. I wish Helen had her information in a sortable data base. How much more helpful it would be.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:40:47 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - I haven't heard any more from Doreen either. She lives in Atlanta -- maybe they're baseball fans! I remember we used to go wacky when the Blue Jays were winning. . .
Hope we hear from Autumn soon again as well.
- ppp356.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:42:39 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
opened the familybook and got this
Peter Weihs b. 30 Jun 1783d. 29 Aug 1855
m 21 Jan 1807
Elisabeth Meditz of Buchel 9 on 27 Oct 1781 d. 22 May 1857
I did not verify this information.
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:43:32 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
Yes I can print out the page but I can also copy and paste any message printed.I put it onto e-mail messages and save it in my draft file to check over.
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:45:24 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gute Nacht, Holly and Jim -- I had too much fresh air today, raking leaves, and I'm falling asleep at the computer! Have a good week, and enjoy your holiday, Holly!
- ppp356.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:45:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I guess the marriage book was right and Elisabeth was married twice. The dates and the house numbers agree. Peter Hiris must have died prior to 1807.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:45:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Ridy.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:46:11 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Good night Ridy,
You must have had some great weather this week-end. Ours was terrible.
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:47:03 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I will check that out. Except for the Weiss family, Kraker's took over the homestead. Don't know what happened to the Hiris clan.
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:49:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Weather spotty here as well.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:50:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
found Maria Weiss b.Alf 7 24 Apr 1809
m. 21 Jul 1839
Mathias Kraker b.Alf. 8 19 Apr 1812 d. 14 Feb 1892
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:52:56 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Buchl#9 was definitely Meditz territory at that time. Elisabth mostlikely had a brother Michael abt 1780 who married Maria Kump in 1834 (must have been a second marriage for him).
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:54:06 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
but were did Josef Weiss go?
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:56:37 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The only son of Peter Hiris and Elis Meditz married Maria Maichin of Nesseltal#17. No other information.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 01:56:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Buchel 9. familybook
Michael Meditz b. 26 Sept 1779 d. 7 nat 1845
m 28 May 1834
Maria Kump widow Meditz b. 3 Dec 1798 d. 7 Aug 1856
definately 2nd marriage
married
Ursula Stalzer.( I checked a birth record for that one)
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:00:49 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Josef Weiss abt.1807 married Marg Stalzer of Altfriesach#10 and I have one daughter from the marriage file who lived in Altfriesach at the time of her marriage.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:00:55 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh, he's a Hiris not Weiss?
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:03:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good link with that one.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:03:28 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Alf. 10 familybook
Josef Weiss b. 27 Jan 1806 d. 14 Aug 1855
m 19 Jun 1825
Marg. Stalzer b. 24 Jul 1810 d. 18 Sept 1855
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:06:27 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It was Mathias Hiris born to Peter Hiris and Elis Meditz and Maria and Josef to Peter Weiss and Elis Meditz. Had the information on Maria and Kraker.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:08:39 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Alf. 10 info
this was a sad one as they had 8 children listed. 7 died in infancy.
Maria b. 29 Mar 1830 d. 15 apr 1899
m. 2 Sept 1850
Johan Preser b. Mosel 15 on 21 Jul 1822 d. 12 Mar 1907
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:09:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
However, I have the marriage of Maria Weiss and Mathias Kraker as occurring in 1831 and her dying in 1839 with Mathias married two other times.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:09:37 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, the family book information is in written format. Have you put some of it on the computer yet?
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:13:38 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Do you mean on my site or in my family records?
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:15:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
In the FTM. I thought I had copied most of your site information into my file. I guess I missed some. There is so much.Once I get it into my file, it makes searches so much easier for me.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:16:43 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yes, the family book has 2 other wives for Mat. Kraker.
Did he marry the 2nd wife 21 Jul 1839?
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:18:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
On an aside, Andreas Kump left a message on the bulletin board. He is from Austria and his family has lived there since the 1880's. He is Helmut Kump's third cousin. His Kumps moved to Austria with Loschkes already living there.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:20:15 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Geez,
I am still working on the Tsch. marriages. I haven't had time to add the Nesselthal info yet.
No I don't have all these records on my site. I like to verify the info before I put it on the site and like everything els, it takes so
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:20:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Yes, that was the date for the second marriage.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:20:55 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I enjoy working on the Kumps family lines. That's interesting.
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:23:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I try to add as much information as possible and then crosscheck it with what I already have. Although I don't have exact dates at times, things seem to hold up.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:23:46 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Maria Skiber b. 4 Jun 1815 d. 7 Jul 1866
Lucia Sterbenz b. 9 Dec 1824 d. 10 Jun 1880
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:24:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I just checked your daughter's kinship chart. It is 35 pages long when only the closest relationship is displayed and 52 pages long when multiple relationships are included. This is with very small font size.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:26:31 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Maria Weiss Kraker d. 6 Apr 1838 Alf. 8
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:27:05 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Pretty good isn't it? I just found a Sterbenz I didn't know we had the other day, so that added a few more families.
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:28:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I guess we could piece it all together with enough time. Got time for one more. I could just email it. I know that shopping is a very tiring activity.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:29:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Bring it on Sherlock,
We are on a roll!
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:30:27 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I will post an easy one ---- This is an Altlag one. I have two Johann Hoferle/ Margaretha Petsche couples. Johann Hoferle 7/12/1793 Lacknern#1 (son of Georg and Urs.Kinkoff) married Marg Petsche 4/6/1797. They had Georg 4/15/1820, Gregor 3/10.1823, Maria 10/29/1825, Magdalena abt.1831. I believe they were all from Lacknern#1. I have marriage information on the daughters but nothing else on the sons.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:34:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The Johann Hoferle and Marg. Petsche union ---- no other information for them other than the names. They had a son named Andreas Hoferle born abt.1836 and living at Weissenstein#7 on 8/13/1876 when he married Ursula Stiene from Nesseltal. Could they be the same Johann Hoferle and Marg Petsche as below? Dates and parish are good and Andreas Hoferle could have moved by the time he married 40 years later.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:36:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Maybe this one wasn't so easy but it would make a nice link.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:37:44 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yes, that was an easy one. I have the same birth dates. (I didn't have Magd.)I will check my FTM and let you know if I find anything.
It's been fun, but it's bedtime.
Happy Hunting,
Holly
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:39:52 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I can hear the wheels grinding. Do you root for the new Browns? Ouch----- Wonder if Teri is rooting for them? Haven't heard from her much. Hello, Teri, wherever you are?
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:40:37 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Did you get the last part about Andreas Hoferle? Good night.
- spider-tj044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:41:57 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yep,
I got it but I couldn't make a match.
Wheels are grinding.
Night!
- ashdial-52.suite224.net - Monday, October 25, 1999 at 02:54:23 (GMT)
Christoph Rhyner:
Spricht hier noch jemand deutsch?
- 212.243.96.108 - Friday, October 29, 1999 at 14:52:48 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Gruess Dich, Christoph -
Ja, ab und zu sprechen wir deutsch -- aber meistens wird englisch gesprochen weil wir eben in Amerika und Kanada wohnen, und zum groessten Teil sind alle hier in Nord Amerika geboren - aber unsere Ahnen stammen aus Gottschee.
Wo wohnst Du? Ich, z.B., wohne in Toronto.
- ppp242.on.bellglobal.com - Friday, October 29, 1999 at 18:56:07 (GMT)
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- spider-to014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 01, 1999 at 04:18:56 (GMT)
Urska:
I send you all the warmest greetings from Gottschee!!!
Und Hallo Christoph!
Ich spreche Deutsch und ich komme aus Gottschee. Meine Urgroßmutter war Gottscheerin und ich habe auch meine Diplomarbeit auf das Thema Die Märchen der Gottscheer Deutschen geschrieben. Mein e-mail: urska.stimec@siol.net
- 193.189.191.218 - Monday, November 01, 1999 at 19:05:25 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Urska, Wish I could speak/write to you in Deutsch, but unfortunately I can't. Missed the plauderzimmer Sunday because of Halloween and trick or treaters at my door. Please log on again Sunday night and I'll talk to you. I should have paid attention,when my omah was trying to teach me German. My mom's parents came from Bavaria and I had plenty of chances to learn German, but sadly, never took advantage of the chance to learn. Auf Wiederseehen. Blibt gesund. P.S. My last name is Murphy, but I'm really a Gottscheer. My father was born in Kummerdorf.I log on as Jonke, just so I won't seem strange.
- KSCYB107-43.splitrock.net - Monday, November 01, 1999 at 20:43:29 (GMT)
Johann Jonke:
Hallo liebe Lanzleute, ich wurde in Verdreng 11.09.1917 Geb.
Wohne in Groß-Gerau( Deutschland)und Grüße Euch alle egal wo Ihr Wohnt. Es wäre schön wenn Ihr mir mal antworten würdet. Johann Jonke E-Mail jonke.gip@t-online.de
- cw01.F1.srv.t-online.de - Wednesday, November 03, 1999 at 15:50:12 (GMT)
Deena (Springer)Stampfel:
My family all decends from Gottschee - Joseph Stampfel Died 1965 Glendale NY, George Springer B;Jul 3 1896 & his wife Josefa (Sophie) Kofler B; 1896. I am trying to find info about them. I have just started research. Can anyone help? I have infor from the Kofler side to 1836 in anyone is interested.
- bess.li.net - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 16:01:52 (GMT)
Deena (Springer)Stampfel:
My family all decends from Gottschee - Joseph Stampfel Died 1965 Glendale NY, George Springer B;Jul 3 1896 & his wife Josefa (Sophie) Kofler B; 1896. I am trying to find info about them. I have just started research. Can anyone help? I have infor from the Kofler side to 1836 in anyone is interested.
- bess.li.net - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 19:42:00 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, everybody. Hope everyone had a good week. Unseasonably warm in KCMO. Urska, hope you log on. Eddie, are you on tonight?
- KSCYB102-09.splitrock.net - Monday, November 08, 1999 at 01:59:53 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hey! Where is everybody tonight?? Maybe I'll log off and try again next Sunday.
- KSCYB102-09.splitrock.net - Monday, November 08, 1999 at 02:24:07 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I agree...where is everyone tonight?
- spider-tr083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 08, 1999 at 03:06:47 (GMT)
Barbara Troje:
My grandparents were from Gottschee. I am just starting to learn more about their past and culture. Does anyone know people of the surname TROJE? I don,t know if this was changed in immigration or not.
- spider-wd054.proxy.aol.com - Tuesday, November 09, 1999 at 22:03:20 (GMT)
Lars Liebig:
I am not a Gottscher , but married to one.
Her maiden name is Hilde Hoegler.Oh jau oh jau.
- tcap-54.netflash.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 01:44:05 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Lars - off the Plauderzimmer with you and put on my sister, Hilde
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 01:53:30 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there,
The Cleveland Browns Beat the Steelers! Yeah!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:02:44 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Holly!
Are the Browns still in Cleveland? I thought they were sold a while ago?
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:03:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Same on you Canadian.
We got an expansion team and a new stadium. This is our first season. The Steeler beat us real bad on our opener. 43-0, we lost to the Ravens (our former Browns team)
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:08:39 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Confusing! But I'll cheer for them it it'll help. Is Marc a fan already?
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:10:30 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh, you bet he's a fan. All Clevelander's are fans!
Thanks for the cheers. They need all the help they can get.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:11:46 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi to everyone. Hope everyone is well. Still unseasonably warm in KCMO. May change this week and bring more normal temps.
- KSCYB107-12.splitrock.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:11:56 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Margaret -- it's turned cool up here - just about 41F now. I liked it better in Hilton Head.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:13:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Margaret,
We had a fine sunny day, but it is getting colder. What about you, Ridy?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:13:38 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yes, Hilton Head would be nice right now.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:14:35 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Ridy--Some flowers have started blooming again. I guess global warming isn't a joke after all. Hope more people log on tonight. Very slow last week.
- KSCYB107-12.splitrock.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:14:49 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Hi everyone!
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:14:54 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
We have a possibility of snow flurries overnight. Not my cup of tea at all.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:14:57 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Go Browns!
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:15:28 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Joe! How nice to have you on again for a change. How are the skies?
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:15:47 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Joe,
About time you showed up.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:15:53 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
I guess it has been a while since I've been here
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:16:33 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Lots of launches coming up in December==we have 4 in two weeks
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:17:04 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Margaret - I still have geraniums and the odd rose here and there blooming in the garden - but not for long, I'm sure
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:17:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Met a new Gottscheer
Barbara Troje's relative is Ferdinand Troje of Altsag 3 Pollandl/Stefanie Fink of Langenton 10.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:17:51 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Speaking of football teams. The KC Chiefs lost again today to Tampa Bay. Oh, well. There's always next week. Our head coach is Gunther Cunningham. He was born in Germany and his father was killed in the war. His mom married an AMerican soldier named Cunningham, who adopted him. So, we
have a German head coach here.
- KSCYB107-12.splitrock.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:17:54 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
No snow where we're at--72F pretty much year round--did some yard work today
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:18:11 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
What sort of launches, Joe? Satelites(never tried to spell that before)
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:19:28 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Looking back over the log it seems like we've had a few German visitors
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:19:37 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Close-satellites--we're launching a weather satellite, an earth observation satellite (mostly looking at environmental stuff), a small Korean satellite, and a small research satellite. Exciting month for us.
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:21:19 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
The German visitors show up once in a while, but they don't seem to log on during the right time -- probably the time difference doesn't work out for them.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:21:24 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Right
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:22:10 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Thanks Joe - spelling noted. I've showing off my Umlaut on my e-mails as well!
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:23:01 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
Isn't it about 2 am or something like that, in Germany?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:23:04 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Speaking of German friends, I finally had one my co-workers' husbands transalate a memo to the Austrian military archives last month--I'm trying to get hold of a couple of Hoglers' military service records--I believe one was killed during the Italian Revolution in 1860. Should be interesting.
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:23:44 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
6 hour difference, I think.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:24:22 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi everyone!
- nyor1ts1.ny.us.prserv.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:24:45 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
GMT+1 hour--so that's 9 hours ahead of me--that's 03:30 I guess
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:25:36 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Hi Eduard
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:25:53 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Thanks Ridy,
I wasn't sure.
Hi Eduard.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:26:03 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie, Hi. It's me, cousin Margie. How are Krista and Nancy? Haven't heard from any of you for awhile. Hope all is well in New Hamp.
- KSCYB107-12.splitrock.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:26:57 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
How is everyone tonight. Is Margie still on?
- nyor1ts1.ny.us.prserv.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:28:31 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I hate to admit this - but I had no idea the Italians had a
revolution in 1860! With Gottschee being so close to Italy, becoming involved would have been a distinct possibility. I can still remember when Gottschee was occupied by the Italian Military after Hitler gave Gottschee to Italy, and my aunt taught me how to greet the soldiers in Italian.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:28:50 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Margie is still here and ready to talk.
- KSCYB107-12.splitrock.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:28:59 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Is anyone else using Internet Explorer 5.0? I just found the "Radio" function, and it's great!
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:29:51 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
I agree, about 1860.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:31:17 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Ridy--1860 was kind of the "beginning" of Italy as we know it--up to that point Venetia was just another Austrian province like Krain. Josef Hogler (my G-Uncle) was killed at Vicenza that year. There was fighting going on there from 1859-1861. That's why I need the service record--just to make sure--I doubt he was a tourist!
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:32:06 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
We are all fine up here in " Cold Land" We are expecting snow tomorrow!!
- nyor1ts1.ny.us.prserv.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:32:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello everyone.
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:32:31 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I've listened to some radio broadcasts -- does that mean I have Internet Explorer 5.0? Probably not, I don't recall
my son mentioning that.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:32:38 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Hi Jim--did you get my email today?
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:33:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Thanks Joe,
I wondered why I would see Vicenza on some familybooks for d
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:33:54 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
IE 5.0 lets you listen to digital broadcasting--you just pick the type of music you want to hear, and it pretty much does the rest--it's part of one of the toolbars.
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:34:31 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
oops that was supposed to say "death records"
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:34:31 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Thanks for the history lesson, Joe. Now that you explain it, it does sound familiar -- either from opera or an actual history class.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:34:37 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
IE 5.0 lets you listen to digital broadcasting--you just pick the type of music you want to hear, and it pretty much does the rest--it's part of one of the toolbars.
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:34:47 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Jim,
Did you see the picture of my dogs?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:35:08 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Jim!
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:35:12 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi Jim! It has been a long time since we last talked.
- nyor1ts1.ny.us.prserv.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:35:17 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Holly-yeah, I wondered too--finally just did a web search on Viceza--found lots of good info.
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:35:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Joe, Ridy, Holly --- I got your emails. Thanks.
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:36:17 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hmmm - maybe I'll put IE5.0 on my Christmas wish list
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:36:37 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Joe, I thought I had sent you back one.
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:36:40 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Jim--I haven't checked my mail this evening--I'll look now
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:37:32 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Holly! I didn't get a picture of your dogs----'just' your new grandbaby - share!
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:37:56 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Eduard. Long time no talk. It has been a busy night in the chat room.
Holly, did not catch the pooches yet.
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:37:56 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Margie how is everything with you and your family?
- nyor1ts1.ny.us.prserv.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:38:15 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
I downloaded IE 5.0 from the microsoft web site. Monopolies don't bother me so much, I guess.
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:38:30 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
I updated my site with the new pictures of baby and did a little updating to the pets too. You may have already seen it (3 black dogs?)
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:39:25 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie, The family is fine. We are going to Fargo, ND for Thanksgiving. Will be with son, Mark, and his family for 3 days. Fargo is balmy at 50 degree temps. Won't last, but is nice this time of year.
- KSCYB107-12.splitrock.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:40:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Joe, what is it that the radio function does? Can you tune in stations?
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:40:09 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Thanks, Jim--I got it.
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:40:11 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Monapolies don't bother me at all - and I shall follow your example. I used their Expedia.com to book my airline tickets - they had the best deal I could find.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:40:11 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Jim, how have you been?
- nyor1ts1.ny.us.prserv.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:40:26 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I've put on my dunce hat - another spelling mistake.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:41:34 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Jim--yes--you just click on "Radio Stations" and it takes you to a web site that allows you to select whatever kind of music, etc that you want to listen to. From there it takes you to a list of stations from around the world. After that it's just click & listen. I just discovered this tonight.
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:41:42 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ed, doing fine. Starting to get ready for Christmas. I know we haven't had Turkey day but I have to get gifts when I get the time.
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:42:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Joe, I may try to download the upgrade when I get the chance.
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:43:42 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Margie How's KC?
- nyor1ts1.ny.us.prserv.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:43:56 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must close for tonight. Things to do. Eddie, have a super holiday, if I don't talk to you again. My love to Nancy and Krista. Auf Wiedersehen
- KSCYB107-12.splitrock.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:44:18 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
'bye Margaret
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:46:05 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Margie enjoy your trip and say hi to everyone.
- nyor1ts1.ny.us.prserv.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:47:07 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
I have to go too--wife needs the computer for school work & I have an early morning coming up
--mit freundlichem gruss!
- pool0691.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:47:45 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
'Bye Joe - nice chatting!
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:48:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Goodnight, Margie and Joe.
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:48:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I just got the computer back from my wife who was doing work for the school parent's association.
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:49:51 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Got to go also! talk with y'all next week
- nyor1ts1.ny.us.prserv.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:50:00 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
night Joe and Margie,
Nice chatting with you.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:50:25 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Night Eduard,
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:50:52 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, I couldn't figure out where the Stefania Fink information came from but I do know that she is related to Theresa Krocker Stein. Hello, Teri out there somewhere.
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:51:04 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Lucky me -- I don't let my husband touch my computer -- he has to go to his office at the school when he needs to use it!
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:51:27 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Herr Stalzer.
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:51:34 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
Maybe your wife and daughter both need computers for Christmas. You just gotta keep the computer clear for genealogy!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:52:13 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
That info came from Helen Petsche.
I didn't find a connection to either of us.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:53:55 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Already have two computers at home. Amanda was on one and Linda the other. Amanda does want one of her own and we may get her a laptop. This way she can use it in her room. However, I don't think I want to put a phone line in her room. We ran into problems with the older sister when we did that.
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:53:57 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Have either of you used a Palm Pilot? I was using my cousin's when I was down south -- terrific toy, and it works beautifully. Christopher was impressed!
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:54:05 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
You should see how bad it is when my husband decides he needs to use my computer. I suffer!!!!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:54:56 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, how dare he think he could touch your computer!
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:56:17 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I agree with you there Jim,
Who needs 3 a.m. phone calls!
Ridy,
What is a palm pilot?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:56:29 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
This is the first possession I've ever had on which I've taken a stand - it's mine and mine alone (except in emergencies, and I define what's an emergency)
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:57:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Palm Pilot ---- I have seen others use them but I still prefer my little, compact Hallmark date book. It is thin and fits into my pocket.
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:57:14 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well Jim,
I have to be nice about it cause it is his fax line I use!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:57:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I know she will balk but we had so much trouble with Melissa staying on late and making/getting phone calls at all times of the night. We don't want to go there again.
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 02:59:01 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Okay, we can compromise every now and then but how many faxes does he get. We mustn't let anything in the way of genealogy progress. Ridy, did you get the file with the Sigmund information?
- spider-wm088.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:00:29 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I just got home, is anybody still on?
- spider-th024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:00:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well gang,
I have some genealogy to finish tonight. so I better say good-night. Don't forget to check out my pups!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:01:21 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Wish I knew how to explain it. .. go to Amazon.com and under electronics they do show it. But it's really a computer about the size of a large cigarette package - which you hold in the palm of your hand - and it does the same things a computer does -- not quite all the things, but certainly e-mails, and all sorts of other Internet functions. It had a better international language keyboard than my computer has! Christopher says it's the next generation - about five years down the line. . . . but you can buy them now.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:01:47 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Jim - yes, thank you. I got it. I've started to file it into my family tree maker.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:03:03 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Looks like everyone is signing off. I hope I am home for a change next weekend, so I can join in.
- spider-th024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:03:37 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good night, Holly!
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:04:21 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Mary!
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:04:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, most people use the palm pilot to take down short messages, keep track of their schedules & meetings, download or upload short files. A lot of computer power in a small package. Even though they are smaller than the size of old style calculators, I wouldn't want to carry one around.
- spider-wm016.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:05:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Mary.
- spider-wm016.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:05:37 (GMT)
Barbara troje:
hello everyone
- spider-te012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:05:44 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Ridy
- spider-th024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:06:09 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Aha - we have some latecomers today!
Hi Barbara.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:06:57 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have missed for several weeks now...have been busy with the family doing things.
- spider-th024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:07:44 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Jim - we used it to read the news, get directions from one place to the other, and send and get e-mail messages. It also has a calculator, and all the other functions you mention, plus a host of others I didn't try at all. But it fits into your shirt pocket.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:08:40 (GMT)
Barbara troje:
I was flailing around for the site. and now figuring out how to use it
- spider-te012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:09:10 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Mary - we all tend to come in and out as we have time
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:10:03 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
If anyone needs info for Bistriz I am compiling quite a bit from that town.
- spider-th024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:10:11 (GMT)
Barbara troje:
I was reading the log earlier and see there are people that speak Gottsceer. Has anyone made recordings of the language in university archives?
- spider-te012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:10:53 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Barbara - you're coming through loud and clear.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:10:54 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Everyone has been off already the last few weeks when I have gotten home.
- spider-th024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:11:11 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Barbara - I was born in Gottschee, and do speak Gottscheerisch. I don't know if anyone else has made any recordings of the language, I would think they have. I've started to make my own, just of conversations I have with older relatives.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:12:37 (GMT)
Barbara troje:
Hi Ridy. I saw you name a lot in the log.
- spider-te012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:14:01 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I think the official time for the chat room is from 9 - 10 on Sunday evenings, isn't that right, Jim? But we often run well into overtime.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:14:08 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, I wish I could speak as many languages as you. English, German, Gottscheerish, a little Slovenian. I only know english and brooklynese.
- spider-wm016.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:14:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
9- 10 is correct but usually lasts longer.
- spider-wm016.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:15:17 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Barbara - I enjoy the contacts I've made in the chatroom over the year-and-a-half. . . .
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:15:31 (GMT)
Barbara troje:
It seems like a language Center like Indiana University at Bloomington would want to have it in soem kind of archive
- spider-te012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:15:35 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I wish I knew more about everything. I only discovered about 3 months ago my great grandparents came from Gottschee, and we know nothing about their live there, or how they came to USA.
- spider-th024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:16:18 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I really enjoyed the brooklynese I was exposed to last week. Joe grew up in Ridgewood and Flushing
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:17:06 (GMT)
Barbara troje:
I guess time is up since everyone was loggin off. my computer clock is wrong so I dont know the time
- spider-te012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:17:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, you are in the same position that I was in. Until spring of 1997, I had no idea as to where Gottschee was.Do you know when your ancestors came over?
- spider-wm016.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:18:11 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Making these unexpected discoveries is exciting, isn't it.
I have recently become convinced that a close friend of mine is of Gottscheer ancestry. The name Knauss/Knaus kept ringing bells but I only recently put 2 and 2 together.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:19:18 (GMT)
Barbara troje:
Both my grandparents came over between the wars, My father is first generation American and still living..76 yo. He doesnt know much unless I give hime cues then it sounds familiar. If anyone want to e-mail me my address is seenmedusa@aol.com. I want to understand more about he culture and history.
- spider-te012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:20:38 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have found out quite a bit. My great grandfather came in 1882 and settled in Shelby County Iowa. Yes I was really excited when I found all this out.
- spider-th024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:20:41 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
The last name is Peschel, of my family.
- spider-th024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:21:40 (GMT)
Barbara troje:
Ridy, I saw where you came over 51 years ago. Where did you come from?
- spider-te012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:23:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, your ancestors must have been in the very first wave of emigration. Parts of my family came over in the 1880's while my direct ancestors came over in the 1920's. A straggler or two came over after WW 2. I get the impression that my ancestors were not from the landed gentry of the area but mostly farmers and workers (mines, lumber mills).
- spider-wm016.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:26:02 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Barbara - we came from Graz, Austria, in 1948. But I was born in Kukendorf, Gottschee, and lived there until we were all resettled at the end of November, 1941.
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:26:34 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I only know they lived in Bistriz #1.
- spider-th024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:28:20 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
My great grandfather was a farmer after he got here, but I dont know what he did in Bistriz.
- spider-th024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:29:15 (GMT)
Barbara troje:
was that the resettlement by the Reich?
- spider-te012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:31:27 (GMT)
Barbara troje:
was that the resettlement by the Reich?
- spider-te012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:31:34 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good night, everybody -
I've got some more work I must get done.....it's been fun and Auf Wiedersehen!
- ppp1351.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:32:36 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
good night everyone
- spider-th024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:34:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
good night to all as well. Barbara, the resettlement was by the Reich in 1941 when the Nazis ceded the land to Italy. All German people in Gottschee were to be resettled into the Greater Germany but it didn't work out that way.
- spider-wm016.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 15, 1999 at 03:37:57 (GMT)