Plauderzimmer Log, Nov. '99 - Sep. '00


Helmuth:
Hi everyone. Just testing page 3 of the log.

Happy Thanksgiving to all if I'm not on before then!

- gtwy.fishersci.com - Friday, November 19, 1999 at 21:07:48 (GMT)
John Herbst:
Hi All,
Been a quite a while since I've been on. What are you up to Jim? Happy Thanksgiving Helmuth.

- proxy-604.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 01:44:17 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, all. Happy Thanksgiving to all. Eddie, are you on?
- KSCYB112-16.splitrock.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:00:14 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
John Herbst, Glad to see you back. Not many people on tonight. Guess they are all getting ready for Turkey day. Msay log off myself. Want to see PBS documentary on the Iditarod. Knew some people who went to the race.
- KSCYB112-16.splitrock.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:14:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, everyone.
- spider-tm023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:18:35 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I watched that special on Iditarod. Very good. I think Peter Coyote was the narrator. Has a good voice.
- spider-tm023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:23:11 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Will log off. Auf Wiedersehen. Blibt gesund. And Happy Thanksgiving.
- KSCYB112-16.splitrock.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:25:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Margaret.
- spider-tm023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:25:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi all,
Sorry I didn't get on sooner. I want to wish everyone a wonderful Thanksgiving day.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:40:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello,Holly. I just left you a message.
- spider-tm023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:41:43 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Holly! Hi Jim!
Are you guys getting a head-start on celebrating Thanksgiving down there? Aren't you supposed to wait until Thursday?

- Toronto-ppp80456.sympatico.ca - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:42:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It has been a busy several weeks from a genealogy standpoint. I have been able to help a couple of searchers.
- spider-tm023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:43:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I go to my sister's for Turkey Day. Therefore, we don't have much preparation to do except pick out a nice bottle of wine (or two).
- spider-tm023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:44:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, how are you doing? Can you give me the dates on the Gottscheer meeting in the far north next year?
- spider-tm023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:45:35 (GMT)
Ridy:
Make it special! It's the last Thanksgiving of this Century!
- Toronto-ppp80456.sympatico.ca - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:45:57 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Ridy,
I was just thinking about you.
Rudy's parents are having us over for the Turkey, so that means I don't have to do anything except the dishes!

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:46:28 (GMT)
Ridy:
Far, far North, Jim! Labor Day weekend - first weekend in September. (can't find my 2000 calendar)
- Toronto-ppp80456.sympatico.ca - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:47:15 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Isn't the Treffen over labor day?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:47:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I think a nice Riesling for a white and a pinot noir for a red. They should go well with the turkey and the stuffing. Do you have a Thanksgiving up yonder?
- spider-tm023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:47:49 (GMT)
Ridy:
Get them a dishwasher for Christmas - as in Maytag, not Holly!
- Toronto-ppp80456.sympatico.ca - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:48:14 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh, they have a dishwasher. I just like to wash the good china by hand.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:48:47 (GMT)
Ridy:
Of course we have Thanksgiving way up yonder! But we had it in October - second Monday in October every year - when we can still get around in cars and don't have to use the sleighs and reindeer
- Toronto-ppp80456.sympatico.ca - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:50:31 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
Ours in re: to the Pilgrims and Indians. What is yours?

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:52:16 (GMT)
Ridy:
We give thanks for a bountiful harvest - however bountiful it may have been. It's the same in Europe - I used to love the way the church was decorated with fruits and vegetables-most appropriate I always felt. When we lived in Ann Arbor we celebrated both in October and November - any excuse for a good party was all we needed
- Toronto-ppp80456.sympatico.ca - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:55:11 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
It sure makes more sense to have Thanksgiving in Oct. than Nov. Sometimes it can be terrible weather
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 02:57:52 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
Did you get to see the meteor showers?Nov-16-18 Every night I checked it was too cloudy.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:00:12 (GMT)
JIm Heimann:
sorry, I got kicked off my computer and using the backup.
- 1Cust101.tnt2.paterson.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:01:47 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I got your message on Miede and will check on that.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:03:25 (GMT)
Ridy:
No, I didn't see them here, although a couple of my friends raved about them. It was very overcast here as well, and we live in a low-lying area with lots and lots of high trees, so it's hard to see anything at the best of times.
- Toronto-ppp80456.sympatico.ca - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:03:50 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello everyone
- spider-wc083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:05:07 (GMT)
JIm Heimann:
I like the idea of having two thanksgivings. I love stuffing. Christmas is at our house this year. Looking forward to it and we will use the dishwasher for everything but the fine stuff (which we probably won't use with the clan Heimann coming into town),
- 1Cust101.tnt2.paterson.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:05:25 (GMT)
JIm Heimann:
Hello, Mary.
- 1Cust101.tnt2.paterson.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:05:55 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
My daughter is cooking the turkey this year and am making the pies.
- spider-wc083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:06:22 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Mary,
Hey Jim, it's THAT side of the family hmmm?
Ridy, I have lots of trees too.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:07:11 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Holly
- spider-wc083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:08:02 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh Mary,
What kind of pies? Pumpkin? what else?

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:08:04 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Mary-
Do you make pumpkin pie? I'll go anywhere for that

- Toronto-ppp80456.sympatico.ca - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:08:04 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I make pumpkin, pecan and green tomato.
- spider-wc083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:08:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yummy,
I've never had green tomato pie.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:09:53 (GMT)
Ridy:
OK Holly, so there goes that excuse. . . .
back a few years, when we used to go to a cousin's cottage on Lake Huron, my husband used to take the kids outside in the middle of the night, and they'd lie on their backs to watch all the fireworks in the heavens -- they still talk about that. I'm too nearsighted to see much of that.

- Toronto-ppp80456.sympatico.ca - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:10:26 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Our family loves it. It was my Dad's favorite.
- spider-wc083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:10:36 (GMT)
JIm Heimann:
I go to Conn. and there are Schauer relatives in that neck of the woods. I may drop in for a short stay.

- 1Cust101.tnt2.paterson.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:10:37 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well Ridy,
The ground is way too cold and wet to lie on at this time of the year, but it sounds like a good idea!

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:12:03 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - I just noticed -- you actually have two different servers, right?
- Toronto-ppp80456.sympatico.ca - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:12:47 (GMT)
Ridy:
Time to call it a day. Have a very Happy Thanksgiving, everybody!
- Toronto-ppp80456.sympatico.ca - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:16:28 (GMT)
JIm Heimann:
Good pick up. I usually use AOL but I do have MSN so when Linda is using the Aol account, I can still get online.
- 1Cust101.tnt2.paterson.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:17:21 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well gang,
I really have to get a move on. I have been cleaning my work area all day and am not finished yet. Heaven knows I won't be able to find anything after I am done, but it certainly was a mess. Now i better finish it,
Good night and sleep well

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:17:37 (GMT)
JIm Heimann:
I am going to sing off as well. Good night to everyone and a Happy Thanksgiving.
- 1Cust101.tnt2.paterson.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:18:04 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
happy thanksgiving everyone
- spider-wc083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:18:16 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
see you next week
- spider-wc083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:18:30 (GMT)
Philip Kump:
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!
- spider-we042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:22:12 (GMT)
Philip Kump:
Anyone from Ridgewood here tonight??
- spider-we042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:23:53 (GMT)
Philip Kump:
is this thing working??
- spider-we042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 03:26:26 (GMT)
Rudy:
hello everyone...just wanted to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving to the southerners..have not had time to log on Sundays for a long time now..busy with Oktoberfest, family committments, Italy etc...ciao and gobble gobble r
- e01.proxy.fedex.com - Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 16:07:40 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Is anyone around tonite?
- spider-wo072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 01:25:56 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Mary. I'm on. Hope everyone had a good turkey day. We were in Fargo, ND. Unseasonably warm there, like everywhere else. Eddie, are you on tonight?
- KSCYB108-32.splitrock.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:07:06 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Margaret, Hi Fargo Is my home area. I was born at Breckenrige Minn
- spider-wo062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:08:18 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Phiip Kump, if you are on tonight. My relatives are from Ridgewood. I am from KCMO. My aunt and un cle (Herman and Anna Lachner) once managed the Gottscheer Club in Ridgewood. Perhaps you knew them. Have cousins there still named Stalzer and Jonke.
- KSCYB108-32.splitrock.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:09:09 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Mary, My daughter in law, Susan Koebnick (now Murphy) is from Nevis, MN, next to Walker and Ackley (?). That's in Hubbard County. Near Park Rapids. Know any of those places? Nice Thanksgiving in Fargo. No snow yet. In the 40's every day and 20's at night. Very dry there, too.
- KSCYB108-32.splitrock.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:11:34 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes I know where Park Rapids is, Have been there a few times
- spider-wo062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:12:49 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Mary, There are a lot of Scandanavian people in Nevis and the surrounding towns. Finns, Norwegians, etc. My daughter in law's mother is Norwegian. Gottscheers really have gotten around, have't they?
- KSCYB108-32.splitrock.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:15:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Margaret and Mary. How were your Thanksgivings? Mine was at my sister's in Connecticut and it was great.
- spider-ti034.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:18:53 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes they have gotten around. There are also some Gottscheers further west of Park Rapids, and some more in southern Minnesota. There are some Scandanavians in Wilkin County where I am from. And lots of Germans, which is what I mostly am.
- spider-wo042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:19:13 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Jim Thanksgiving was wonderful. And my daughter and I baked most of our Christmas cookies this weekend. We were busy little beavers.
- spider-wo042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:20:10 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim, There was a wonderful old movie called, Xmas in Connecicut. Your comment about Thanksgiving brought it to mind. Anyway, Glad you are on. How's it goin?
- KSCYB108-32.splitrock.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:20:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Sorry about the delay. talking to eric kraker on the phone.
- spider-ti034.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:32:22 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must log off. Work to do. Auf Wiedersehen. Blibt gesunt.Tschau.
- KSCYB108-32.splitrock.net - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:33:04 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I was wondering where you both went. Goodbye Margaret
- spider-wo042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 02:33:59 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I will hang around for a few more minutes and see if anyone else shows up.
- spider-wo044.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:08:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, are you still around?
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:13:33 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
yes I am
- spider-wo043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:14:50 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
But no one else is around tonite.
- spider-wo043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:15:37 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
pretty slow night. I have been looking at Bistritz but my FTM file doesn't have a lot in it about that area.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:17:48 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
It is hard to get something going when you don't know if there is anyone left in the room. You leave a message and check on something else. You come back to find another message but you don't know if the person is now gone.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:18:53 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
At one time, Helmut experimented with a change in the format but it never panned out.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:19:33 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
It looks like a very slow night. Have a good week.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:22:53 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes I do not really like the format here, but it is sometimes interesting conversation.
- spider-wo032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:23:32 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
Hello Mary. Are you still here?
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:24:02 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
We keep missing the connection.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:24:21 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am relaxing at the computer after my hectic weekend.
- spider-wo032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:26:08 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
I was talking with Eric Kraker and it is interesting how things interconnect. He lives in Ohio, I live in NJ via Brooklyn. I get my Christmas tree about 45 minutes away from here right next to the town where his uncle and first cousins lived. His uncle owned a house in the area of Brooklyn that I grew up in.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:26:46 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
It is a small world isnt it. Margaret was in Fargo for Thanksgiving at that is where I am from
- spider-wo032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:27:47 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
I guess you hosted the Thanksgiving meal. We are going to have the Xmas get-to-gether in a couple of weeks.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:27:50 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
The Gottscheer initially settled in discrete areas. I think whole houses would leave Gottschee and head west to settle in certain areas.

- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:28:46 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have found that relatives moved to the same area anyhow.
- spider-wo032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:30:06 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
Brooklyn, Queens, Cleveland, Kansas City, British Columbia, Colorado, Ontario. I pick up bits and pieces while emailing and chatting on line. On the whole, the Gottscheer community seems to have done well (although the selection bias of computers probably has something to do with it).
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:30:38 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Most of my relatives settled in Shebly county Iowa, and then several moved to Nebraska, amd then to Minnesota
- spider-wo032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:31:10 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
When did your relative come over and did they settle in Fargo or somewhere else? I checked my file and I have a Johann Peschl 9/5/1849 from Bistritz who married a Margaretha Stalzer. They then lived in Unterdeutschau.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:32:21 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
Iowa is interesting. My greatgrandfather was Franz Koenig and he was married three times. Most of the children went to Cleveland or New York but there is a family rumor that one or two went to Iowa. I believe the married name was Gorsche or Gorse.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:34:07 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
My relatives came over in the 1880's and settled in Shelby county Iowa. My grandmother moved to the Fargo area. That Johann Peschel in your records is my grandfathers brother.
- spider-wo032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:35:14 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
Another possible name is Kaiser. None of this is confirmed.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:36:50 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have not come across that name yet, but will keep itin mind.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:37:58 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
Mary, when you get the chance, can you email me the name of your father and grandfather? The early 1900's would seem to be the right time for the Kaisers and the Gorsches.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:39:53 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
I think I located some of them in the SSDI but I don't know enough about them to be sure. I think some of the children then moved to the Wisconsin area.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:41:03 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I can tell you right now. But it was my great grandfather that came here from Gottschee. His name was Joseph Peschel. And his daughter was my grandmother.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:43:00 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
Did you ancestors mostly go into farming? Mine seemed to go into the restaurant/ bar/ bakery businesses. Not too much in the way of farms in Brooklyn after the 1920's. Urban sprawl at warp speed.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:43:25 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes my ancestors were farmers here. I don't know what they did in Gottschee.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:44:59 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
Josef was Johann's brother and he was the one who emigrated while Johann stayed in Gottschee. Johann's children lived in Unterdeutschau#5. Seven all together.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:46:40 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes, but I understand one of Johann's daughters may have come here. But I dont know where she went.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:48:34 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
Four died in early childhood. Johann died abt.1940 in Spital while Maria emigrated to the US and Margaretha went to points unknown.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:49:04 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
For some reason I have that Johann lived in Oberdeutschau, so I will have to check that out when I get those records.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:49:35 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly sent that information, and maybe I copied it wrong.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:50:44 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am amassing quite a set of records on Bistritz.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:51:23 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
Holly has so much information on that area. Many of her ancestors came from Nesseltal and that is where Johann's wife came from. I had a typo it was Oberdeutschau#5 from the Nesseltal parish.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:52:16 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ok thanks for the correction on the typo.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:53:39 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
I checked the resettlement records and there were no Peschel living in Bistritz as of 1941. They must have all moved to Iowa by then. The only Peschels listed in 1941 were from Bresowitz.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:54:33 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Well I am about ready to call it a night. It has been a long hard weekend.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:54:48 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Well there was a whole family of Peschels that never came here as far as I know. They were all from Bistriz #5 which is where my famiy started out.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:56:04 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
They all seem to link back to a Peter Peschel, possibly from ?? Unterwald ?? . This is just south of Bistritz.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:57:10 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
They would of been my greatgreat grandfathers brothers family. But I have not traced them good enoggh yet to know what happened to all of them.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:57:12 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
Glad that we finally connected. Drop me an email if you think Peter may have been the family line from Bistritz.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:58:53 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have not got that far back yet. The furthers back I have is Michael Peschel who was born about 1779 and was married in Bistiz #5
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:59:01 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
Have a good night. Thanks again to Holly for all of her information on that area.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 03:59:34 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Michael was my great great great grandfather, I think.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 04:00:00 (GMT)
Jim heimann:
Peter would have been from the mid to late 1800's time frame.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 04:00:45 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I think there was a Peter Peschel about that time, late 1800
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 04:02:52 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
but Michael was from the late 1700.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 04:03:19 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
good night...Jim..has been nice chatting with you.
- spider-wo022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, November 29, 1999 at 04:05:19 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there,
Sorry I missed the chat. Wanted to clear something up'
Johann Peschel b. Bistriz on 5 Sept 1849 of Josef Peschel/Maria Petsche
m. 10 May 1875 in Nesselthal .
Margaretha Stalzer b. Oberdeutschau 5, Nesselthal on 27 May 1857. had 6 children & died at Oberdeutschau 5, Nesselthal.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 21:45:54 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Holly, That is the birth information I have, and you gave me the rest of it. Jim had a typo in his information when we were chatting about it. Thanks again.
- spider-tn053.proxy.aol.com - Thursday, December 02, 1999 at 04:56:49 (GMT)
Jim:
Hello, anyone hanging around?
- spider-wc062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:22:26 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hey, Jim: I'm here. Where's everybody? I got distracted watching PBS documentary on Omnibus - old TV show from 50's and 60's. Eddie, are you on?
- KSCYB203-39.splitrock.net - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:28:28 (GMT)
Jim H:
Seems like everyone is somewhere else.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:29:35 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am here.
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:30:16 (GMT)
Jim H:
I am flipping back and forth from the Dallas Cowboy game. Nothing exciting.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:30:26 (GMT)
Jim H:
Hi, Mary. How are you doing?
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:30:53 (GMT)
Jim H:
Eddie is probably waxing his skis. I am sure they are skiing up there already.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:31:30 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am fine. Had a busy weekend...
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:31:38 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
I'm really having problems with my server. PRodigy keeps cutting me off. I may disappear at any minute. Hope you all have a good week.
- KSCYB106-40.splitrock.net - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:32:39 (GMT)
Jim H:
The weekends will probably be busy from here on out to the New Year.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:33:17 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Where does Eddie live?
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:33:30 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Mary, Didn't you say last week you came from Breckinridge, MN, near Fargo? Told my son, Mark, he says it's a small Gottscheer world.
- KSCYB106-40.splitrock.net - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:33:54 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes, I did say that.
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:34:27 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I agree it is a small world, and a small Gottscheer world.
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:34:52 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Mary, Eddie lives in New Hampshire. Sorry don't know the name of the town. Lots of snow up there and excitement about the presidentail primary.
- KSCYB106-40.splitrock.net - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:34:57 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Does your son have an email address?
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:35:17 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Was just wondering about Eddie, cause we had lots of new snow inthe mountains of Colorado also.
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:35:53 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Mary, Mark's email address is: msmurphy@prodigy.net
They have a microphone setup and so do we, so we can talk to them, not just email.

- KSCYB106-40.splitrock.net - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:37:18 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
That is cool....I have a microphone to, and a video camera. but nobody else has the camera.
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:39:22 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
My son and daughter and I have played with the video call a couple of times. I said no one else had a camera but they just got one.
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:40:52 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
I really have work to do. Slow night on the plauderzimmer. Guess I will say Auf Wieersehen and blibt gesund.
- KSCYB106-40.splitrock.net - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:41:35 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ok Margaret. Thanks for your sons email.
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:42:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Going to sign off as well, have a good night.
- spider-ti013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:45:02 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Goodnight, Jim
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 02:46:05 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Everybody!
Anybody still on?

- ppp5917.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 06, 1999 at 03:13:55 (GMT)
Steve Recher:
Just found out about this site. Very curious about my ancestry.Any one recognize the name Recher?
- 4-pool2.ras10.nynyc.agisdial.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 03:12:39 (GMT)
Steve Recher:
I can be e-mailed at RECHER@AOL.COM
- 4-pool2.ras10.nynyc.agisdial.net - Sunday, December 12, 1999 at 03:13:43 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi to all. Can't stay long. Important football game between KCChiefs and Vikings. Very important to our Super Bowl chances. Hope everyone is well.
- KSCYB112-33.splitrock.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:02:57 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Dear Steve,
Don't know any Rechers, but stay on line and you'll get plenty of help. Everyone is willing to help you find your ancestors. Some you might not even want to find!

- KSCYB112-33.splitrock.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:04:44 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Mary Thruman, You mentioned last week that you had a video attachment for yourcomputer. Our son and daughter in law in Fargo gave us an early Xmas gift--a video attachment for our computer. It works!
- KSCYB112-33.splitrock.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:06:34 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there everyone,
just taking a break from the Christmas celebrations and preparations.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:21:49 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Holly, I'm on. Not much doing tonight. I run back and forth from computer to TV football.
- KSCYB112-33.splitrock.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:23:11 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi everybody!
Just taking a break from doing envelopes - as one of my friends said recently, 'if it weren't for the last minute, Ridy would never get anything done' - and them's the facts.

- ppp5908.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:25:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I just can't seem to get into football this year. Although I appreciate having a team in Cleveland again, I don't have the spirit back. How does that video attachment work?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:25:38 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Ridy,
I got my card done Friday night but will mail them tomorrow.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:26:31 (GMT)
John Sorli:
HI Steve Recher,
According to the Book - Surnames of Gottschee, there are
are Rechers found in the village of Schalkendorf
in the Parish of Gottschee. You can find most of
the church records for the Parish of Gottschee
at the Family History Center of the LDS on
Washinton avenue off Manetto Hill Rd in Plainview.
I have almost all films for Gottschee and
Mitterdorf Parishes on indefinite hold there .
They are in a drawer marked Gottschee. there
are several films there for other parishes also.
If we can get enough interest,we were thinking of
starting a local Gottschee self help Genealogy
group to meet once a month. If you have questions
or need help,you can contact me at jfsort@yahoo.com
or call me at 516-433-0402.

- di65.nassaulibrary.org - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:42:09 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello everyone...
- spider-wc031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:48:03 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes Margaret...the video cameras are fun. Can you also take pictures and save right on your computer?
- spider-wc031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:49:13 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Mary,
My computer kicked me off for a while. maybe it knows more than I thought.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:50:11 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Holly..
- spider-wc031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:50:46 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am having quite a time with all the micorfilms for Bistriz.
- spider-wc031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:51:11 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have found out that my Peschels started out in Bistriz #5.
- spider-wc031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:51:36 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
Are you busy linking the families?

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:51:49 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
hmm,
Didn't we know that?about Bistriz 5?

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:52:26 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes I have been doing lots of that. I have found the Roschitsch quite a ways back also.
- spider-wc031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:52:47 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I was not sure that mine started out in Bistriz #5 when I started.
- spider-wc031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:53:55 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I checked, I had Bistriz 1 and Unterdeutschau 5.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:56:36 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am pretty sure they all started out in Bistriz #5. And there was lots of them there.
- spider-wc031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 02:58:09 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
My info is from the marriage book. so may have been born at another house. Johan Peschl b. Bistritz 1 on 10 may 1875
of Josef/Maria Petsche

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 03:03:15 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
oops that is the marriage date to Margaretha Stalzer.
He was born abt 1849.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 03:04:51 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Right. His ancestors farther back come from Bistriz #5.
- spider-wc031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 03:05:24 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh, that is great news. I will add that to my file.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 03:06:02 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Joseph was also in Bistriz #1 when he got married, but farther back their ancestors were from Bistriz #5. I have not gotten the birth records for the generations farther back yet, am going by the marriage records that I have.
- spider-wc031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 03:07:06 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
It is nice to know that you are handling the Tschernembl end of Gottschee. I have no info from that area. My main focus is Pollandl,Nesselthal and Tschermoschnitz. They keep me very busy.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 03:09:11 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have found most of my ancestors in Bistriz and Doblice. But I have a question about Roschitschverh. Where is it?? It is where my Roschitsch family started out from.
- spider-wc031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 03:11:10 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well, I really have to say good night. I still have some work to get done. Take care and happy holidays to you all.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 03:11:29 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Does anyone know where Roschitschverh is? I cannot find it on the map
- spider-wc031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 03:14:29 (GMT)
eva högler:
hi everybody! we are searching for relatives of franz högler
he was born stalzern- rieg in 1893(mother maria ostermann father franz högler- teacher there.greetings from austria

- mibeu03-0971.utaonline.at - Monday, December 13, 1999 at 16:18:50 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, everyone. Hope all are well. Snowing in KCMO right now. Very cold wind chills expected tomorrow, but 50 degrees for Christmas. Doesn't sound possible. Anyway, I guess most people are busy, so we won't see many on line tonight.
- KSCYB209-34.splitrock.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 01:45:57 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie, Are you on tonight? My best wishes to you, Nancy, and Krista for a nice holiday. Email me sometime. Let me know how you like New Hamp. What's the weather like?
- KSCYB209-34.splitrock.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 01:55:33 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
FROHE WEIHNACHTEN, everybody! It's raining up here in Toronto, and no snow in the forecast yet. My Schneegloecklein (snowdrops) are about 2"high already! I think they're confused. Usually they appear in February if they're not covered by snow. Global warming?
- ppp5837.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:08:36 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there everybody,
It is cold but no snow today.
I want to wish everyone a "Holly Jolly Christmas"

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:19:48 (GMT)
Ridy:
Holly! I love that "Holly Jolly Christmas" - you should copyright it!
- ppp19653.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:22:52 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Wish I had. Then I wouldn't have let Burl Ives sing it!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:25:50 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hey - I liked him singing that song! By the way, I'm thinking of getting ChiChi (le chat noir) a bunch of mistletoe.....
- ppp5423.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:31:03 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
That was very funny wasn't it?! LOL!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:32:14 (GMT)
Ridy:
Even Ray was LOL! Now I must go and track Christopher's plane - he's had to go back to Europe again but we hope he'll make it back for Christmas. I always follow his take-off and landings on Trip.com
- ppp5423.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:34:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh, I didn't know you could do that. that's great.Hope he makes it back. He still has a few days.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:36:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Is anyone still hanging around?
- 1Cust46.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:50:42 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Jim -
I'm here off and on. . . Are you ready for the 25th?

- ppp5423.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:52:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Had the first Xmas family get together today with the inlaws lined up for next week. The food was good and the company excellent. No Gottscheer specialties. I think we ordered the cookbook but it has not arrived.

- 1Cust46.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:52:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Still have to wrap the gifts but pretty much on top of things.
- 1Cust46.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:53:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
How about you? My legs ache just thinking about shopping at this time of the year.
- 1Cust46.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:53:52 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
hI there Jim,
we are slowing down a little on the social scene. altho we have the day after Christmas booked already.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:55:52 (GMT)
Ridy:
LOL! At my age I can be forgiven for complaining about aching legs! I thought I'd be smart and order a lot of my gifts on the Internet - mostly books - and finally, today, I have an e-mail notice that they are being shipped. They'll get here OK, but the ones I want to send on will be late.
- ppp5423.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:57:00 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I haven't given in to the urge to order off the internet yet. You modern gal, you.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:58:12 (GMT)
Jim H:
Just started ordering off of the internet. Still getting most of my stuff from stores or catalogues.
- spider-wi042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 02:59:45 (GMT)
Jim H:
One advantage is that you can go to different sites and comparison shop. MySimon.com will do some comparison shopping for you. The downside is that you need to know what you want before you go on line because you can't really look at it over the computer.
- spider-wi042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:01:23 (GMT)
Ridy:
Yeah, right - and look where it got me. Actually, Amazon.com was OK when I ordered books to be sent to me down in Hilton Head, but I don't order from them to Canada because it ends up costing an arm and a leg. Guess our Canadian counterpart isn't quite as efficient yet.
- ppp5423.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:01:36 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I love catalogs. I do order alot from them.
I still need to wrap presents too.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:01:53 (GMT)
Ridy:
The Internet appeals to me because I hate shopping, and what I really hate is carrying the stuff home. Back in the old days you could just say "send it, please" and it would be at home by the time you got there, or soon after.
- ppp5423.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:04:23 (GMT)
Jim H:
We ordered a computer from outpost.com that we could not get in the stores because they had run out of them. We got it the next day with no taxes and no shipping charges.
- spider-wi042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:05:46 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy.
How is Joe? and I really enjoyed those snow pictures.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:05:54 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim now has more computers in his home, then there are people. That darn genealogy! LOL!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:07:29 (GMT)
Jim H:
This one is for my daughter. My wife uses one, I use the other and Amanda will use the third. It is quite a lot of hardware but Amanda will put it to good use with her schoolwork while Linda and I use it for work (and genealogy :) )
- spider-wi042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:09:28 (GMT)
Ridy:
Not well. Talked to him today. He's pretty low.
I like the picture of the icecicles which I took from inside the house. . . . now the plane's in flight - I sent you the right web site, Holly.

- ppp5423.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:09:48 (GMT)
Jim H:
Holly, a genealogy question ------ I corrected my Andreas Samide information to conform with your selection but I could not figure out what you felt about the Mausser information.
- spider-wi042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:10:28 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - I thought you had 2 daughters -- how come only 3 computers? (I don't let my husband near mine - he's a genius at breaking things)
- ppp5423.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:11:21 (GMT)
Jim H:
Ridy, I am sorry to hear about Joe. I am glad that he had some additional time after the chemotherapy. He sounds like a fighter. Stubborn Gottscheer constitution.
- spider-wi042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:11:47 (GMT)
Jim H:
The other daughter lives in her own apartment and has one of my old computers there. Would not let her leave home without one. She uses it for writing and online communication.
- spider-wi042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:12:50 (GMT)
Ridy:
He's down - but still fighting. He said he'd fly up to see me when he gets better if I don't come down. Wish I could send him some Christmas cookies but they'd never make it through Customs.
- ppp5423.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:14:06 (GMT)
Ridy:
Life would be very boring without my computer - and what a wonderful tool to keep in touch. It's given me a new lease on life.
- ppp5423.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:16:02 (GMT)
Jim H:
Could you buy some cookies online and have them delivered to him? I think that is possible.
- spider-wi042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:16:22 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
re genealogy.
Helen probably gave you the "updated version" of the Mausser info.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:17:29 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Joe's not into computers, is He?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:18:27 (GMT)
Ridy:
I wanted to send him the cookies I make - which are the same as the cookies his mother made. Do you know of any good Viennese bakery nearby? Wienerkipferl, Haselnussbaellchen, that sort of stuff -- and Nussbrot.
- ppp5423.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:18:54 (GMT)
Ridy:
Yes - Joe has a computer, but he hasn't been on it much lately. His Palm Pilot is easier, but he only gets his e-mails on that and watches the news and the stock market, mostly. That way he doesn't have to get out of bed.
- ppp5423.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:20:50 (GMT)
Jim H:
Which one is the updated version? I have it that Mathias Mausser abt.1820 or 1824 married Maria Eppich born 1712 widow of Schneider and had two Mathias Maussers --- one born 1/26/1748 and the other born 12/8/1749. The second one married Agnes Petsche. Does that sound okay. You didn't seem to like Maria Eppich's birthyear of 1712 in the email.
- spider-wi042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:22:03 (GMT)
Jim H:
Can't help you on the cookies but you might try a search online and see what you come up with. There must be an bakery online somewhere that can help. Probably won't match your home made but might be a start.
- spider-wi042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:23:39 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
Yikes, no, that doesn't match up with what she gave me.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:26:19 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
can you bring those cookies from Canada? Is it just the mail service?

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:28:00 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gute Nacht, Holly and Jim. Have a good week, and a wonderful Christmas, and I hope Santa is very good to you!
Time for me to call it a day.

- ppp5423.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:28:57 (GMT)
Jim H:
Can you email me with what you have and I will see where it goes from there? I am confused to say the least. Most of our information meshes so I am having trouble with this one.
- spider-wi042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:29:05 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I agree that it is bed time.
Jim, I will send you the info.
good Night to all, and to all a Good night.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:30:10 (GMT)
Jim H:
Ridy, sounds good to me. Have a good night. Holly, take care. I am on call and they kept me up last night so I will trundle off to bed.
- spider-wi042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:30:29 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
Grüsse Landsleute!
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, December 20, 1999 at 03:34:25 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Stille Nacht, Heilige Nacht -
FROHE WEIHNACHTEN!

- ppp986.on.bellglobal.com - Friday, December 24, 1999 at 11:50:08 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Happy day after Xmas. Hope everyone had a nice day. Hope Santa was good to you all. I missed last week. Too busy. Have much to catch up on.
- KSCYB205-19.splitrock.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 01:56:49 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Will somebody please translate--Grusse Landsleute?? Thanks a lot.
- KSCYB205-19.splitrock.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 01:57:58 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Margaret -
it means Greetings, Countrymen or men of my Country - the Country in question being Gottschee. . . .

- ppp987.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:06:30 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy, Thanks so much. My grandmother Lechner, from Bavaria, used to call my brother "lansman" or something like that. I gues that means about the same thing. I'll learn a few phrases some day.
- KSCYB205-19.splitrock.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:09:33 (GMT)
Ridy:
Margaret -
probably when your grandmother used it she said: "mein lieber Landsmann" which could be used in several different ways, e.g., when you're admonishing somebody all the way to expressing affection - as well as the correct way, of course, which is how Tom used it in his greeting

- ppp987.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:14:55 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy, Thanks so much. My grandmother Lechner, from Bavaria, used to call my brother "lansman" or something like that. I gues that means about the same thing. I'll learn a few phrases some day.
- KSCYB205-19.splitrock.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:18:07 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello everyone. Merry Christmas to everyone.
- spider-wc072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:19:20 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy--I know the first part of your message on Christmas Eve was Silent Night, Holy Night. But what was the second line?
- spider-wc072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:20:28 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Mary!
Happy Boxing Day to you. . .

- ppp987.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:21:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
Frohe Weihnachten is Merry Christmas - actually, more specifically, it's Joyful Christmas because it relates to the birth of Christ, not to merrymaking
- ppp987.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:22:34 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Thanks. That is pretty.
- spider-wc072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:23:46 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Excuse me, but what is Boxing Day? I know it must be from Canada right?
- KSCYB205-19.splitrock.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:28:06 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Boxing day comes from England doesnt it?
- spider-wc072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:28:50 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must say, Gute Nacht und blibt gesund. Be careful on New Year's Eve. Don't let the millenium bug get you!
- KSCYB205-19.splitrock.net - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:36:40 (GMT)
Ridy:
Oh dear -- am I that foreign after all?
Yes - Boxing Day is English - it's the day when all the servants get their Christmas gift boxes - and we in Canada have our big after-Christmas Sales and they're called Boxing Day Sales. I thought it was universal throughout the English speaking world. . .

- ppp987.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:36:58 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I know about Boxing day from storys I have read. We have after Christmas Sales in the USA but they are not called Boxing Day Sales.
- spider-wc072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:38:17 (GMT)
Ridy:
I should have remembered -- we lived in Ann Arbor for a couple of years in the mid-60s
- ppp987.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, December 27, 1999 at 02:40:11 (GMT)
John:
The 1936 Documentary of Gottschee is now available on the VHS video format.
- user-2inignm.dialup.mindspring.com - Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 14:59:45 (GMT)
Helmuth:
To all Plauderzimmer participants...hope you had a wonderful and holy Christmas and best wishes for a great Y2K (I will be glad when all the hype is over though).
- internet1-nat.pncbank.com - Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 13:36:47 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Happy New Year everyone!!!!!!!
- spider-th043.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, January 01, 2000 at 15:51:41 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Happy 2000 to you all! Nothing serious happened in KC. Seems like everyone had a good time celebrating. Will log on tomorrow night at the usual time.
- KSCYB102-17.splitrock.net - Saturday, January 01, 2000 at 20:28:58 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
By the way, I received my video tape of A Trip To Gottschee and watched it. I must say, I cried during parts of it. I have loaned it to other Yonke cousins. The people in that video are Gottscheers, just like me.
- KSCYB102-17.splitrock.net - Saturday, January 01, 2000 at 20:30:41 (GMT)
Philip Kump:
Happy New Year!!!!
- nyor1ts1.ny.us.prserv.net - Sunday, January 02, 2000 at 23:48:09 (GMT)
Philip Kump:
No Y2k problems....

- nyor1ts1.ny.us.prserv.net - Sunday, January 02, 2000 at 23:51:58 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Happy New Year, Everybody!
The only Y2K 'problem' I had was that my date came up January 4, 1980 - and so did my husband's computer! What was magic about January 4, 1980?

- ppp1291.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 01:26:31 (GMT)
Ridy:
P.S.
Actually, I think the temperature is experiencing a Y2K problem -- it's almost 8:30 p.m. and it's still just over 53F outside! This is Toronto we're talking about - in January!

- ppp1291.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 01:29:25 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: KCMO had thed 50's today also. However, tomorrow we should start to return to real winter, maybe even some rain turning to snow. And possibly more snow Wed. Now, if the temperature stays high enough, it will just be rain. Anyway, must tell all of you how wonderful the Gottschee video is. My aunt in Mahopac,NY said 500 copies were sold out pronto. 200 more coming up soon. Lots of interest.
- KSCYB212-04.splitrock.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 01:46:35 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Margaret:
I've ordered a copy each in German and English but haven't received them yet (only ordered them just before Christmas)
My cousin in Florida tells me that our grandparents are shown in the segment from Kukendorf! That will be exciting to see! My grandmother died Jan. 1, 1942 and grandfather in December 1944. I still remember them, of course, but never expected to see them on film. I can't wait!

- ppp1113.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:02:08 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: The video doesn't show all of the villages, only some. Notably missed was Kummerdorf, where my father's family came from. My aunt in Mahopac said the original film didn't get all the villages, just some. I have loaned my copy to cousins. Hope I get it back soon.
- KSCYB212-04.splitrock.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:08:55 (GMT)
Ridy:
Margaret -
It will be so interesting to see what is shown of Kukendorf because it was one of the first (if not the first) village that was burned to the ground, right after we left there. Until the early 1970s the church was still standing, although it was being used as a barn, but then that was destroyed as well, and now there is absolutely nothing left of Kukendorf -- just our memories.

- ppp1113.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:12:43 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Some of my cousins made a trip back ato Gottschee about 4 years ago. Hardly anything is left. We do have a family painting of the village church, made from an old photo. Church is gone now. My brother is the current keeper of the picture as his name is Yonke. It has been passed from brother to brother and son to son. It's such a lovely picture.
- KSCYB212-04.splitrock.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:18:35 (GMT)
Ridy:
Margaret -
we didn't have a photograph of our house in Kukendorf, and some years after we had left there, my late brother, Alfons, painted it from memory with mother's help, as a gift for my father. We've all had really good quality photocopies made of the original, and it's a very treasured possession. I'm so glad he was artistic because nobody else in the family had any talent for painting.

- ppp1113.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:22:26 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Happy New Year everyone
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:24:14 (GMT)
Ridy:
Happy New Year, Mary!
- ppp1113.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:24:41 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
It is cold in Colorado tonite. Colo Springs and Denver had snow last night but we did not in Canon City
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:25:32 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Watching the video I am struck by the fact that these people worked so hard and sacrificed so much, but came to America and truly lived out the American dream--work hard, raise a family, leave a legacy to their kids. Wow! What super people they were! I don't think I"ll ever be that successful, but they surely succeeded!
- KSCYB212-04.splitrock.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:27:22 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am thinking of ordering the video because I know nothing of life in Gottschee, and am really curious
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:28:59 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Mary: I only know about life in Gottschee from what my relatives have told me. 2 aunts are still alive, so I have heard many stories. The last family members came after WWII, so their stories are truly frightening. You will love the video. PreWorld War II.
- KSCYB212-04.splitrock.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:31:51 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have never heard any stories from Gottschee, because I only found out 3-4 months ago that is where my ancestors came from, and no one is alive who can tell me what their live was like there. Only what I am hearing from the chat rooms.
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:34:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
The video was made the year I was born -- so for me it'll be a chance to see where I was born . .
- ppp1154.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:35:52 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must log off. Still some work to do. Tomorrow we go back to the regular routine. This holiday vacation really spoils you. Auf Wiedersehen. Blibt Gesund.
- KSCYB212-04.splitrock.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:36:38 (GMT)
Ridy:
Mary - how did you find out about your ancestors from Gottschee? My e-mail address is ridy@sympatico.ca - send me a message and I'll send you some of my stories. .
- ppp1154.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:37:41 (GMT)
Ridy:
'bye Margaret - bleib gesund!
- ppp1154.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:38:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello and happy New Year.
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:40:59 (GMT)
Ridy:
Happy New Year, Jim!
- ppp1154.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:41:25 (GMT)
Ridy:
We've been chatting about the video of Gottschee, Jim....did Santa put one in your stocking for you?
- ppp1154.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:42:59 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Oh I would love that Ridy...I found who my grandmothers godfather was, and found his family on the internet...and they told where the families came from. But they don't know any stories about my branch of the family.
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:43:00 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Thanks for bleib gesund. I've spelled it wrong every week and nobody told me any better! Thanks again. Glad I stuck around long enough to see that. Danke And happy new year to you, Jim. Lovely chat this evening.
- KSCYB212-04.splitrock.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:43:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Just going over some of the prior chat. Very busy. I got the tape for XMas along with the marriage records for Tschermoschnitz. My wife has lost me for the immediate future.
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:43:23 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there everyone,
We too have a very warm evening with about 60 degrees.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:45:13 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Happy New Year Jim
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:45:36 (GMT)
Ridy:
Lucky you! I didn't get my order in soon enough, and it probably takes longer to get it up here via snail mail. But I can't wait to see it. I've promised my aunts in Kitchener that I shall hop on the first train to bring it to them when it arrives.
- ppp1154.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:46:17 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Everyone should get that video. Not only does it show the clothes, baskets, work tools, people but the livestyles.
Very very interesting.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:46:18 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Holly Happy New Year
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:46:25 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hiya Holly! Happy New Year to you!
- ppp1154.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:47:03 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Happy New Year to you too Mary.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:47:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Happy New Year, Mary. I was in the same boat that you were in. I only found out about Gottschee two+ years ago.I have been able to get a mental picture of what it was like by talking to people on line. My old neighborhood in Brooklyn was surrounded by people from the old country but I never knew it.
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:47:27 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Ridy,
Happy New year.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:47:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Happy New Year, Holly.
Are you giving your fingers a break from Nesseltal?

- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:48:21 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
Happy New year's. I thought I would give my brain a rest from those darn Nesselthal records.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:49:25 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
To my knowledge, I have never met any one from Gottschee in person. Altho I suspect there may be a few families in my hometown who came from there. Now that I know some of the names, And there were others in other parts of Minnesota.
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:50:42 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have been on a 2 week break from the records from Bistriz because our LDS library was closed for two weeks. lol
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:51:30 (GMT)
Ridy:
Mary - two of my cousins live in Minnesota, and so does
Trix Wyant - and there must be many others.

- ppp1154.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:52:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, I keep plowing through the TSCH marriage file and have gotten a significant portion into the FTM. Correcting as I go along. Decided to stop in for a chat. The Cowboys are in the playoffs (but not for long, I fear) so the day is going well.
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:53:43 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy where do your cousins live.
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:53:53 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
I was wondering how your Bistriz records were coming along.
I found a Petsch from there in the Nesselthal records.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:54:04 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I know there were others from the Peschel family that came here, but I cant find any trace of them yet.
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:54:34 (GMT)
Ridy:
When you come to Toronto for the Labor Day weekend, Mary, you will meet Gottscheers galore. And when you observe our CN Tower (the highest free-standing structure in the world!) just remember that a Gottscheer put the very top on it (very slightly crooked) from his helicopter!
- ppp1154.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:55:12 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly, I am getting a pretty good set of records. It is amazing the things I am piecing together
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:55:29 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy, I would love to come to Toronto...dont know yet if I can manage it for this year.
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:56:24 (GMT)
Ridy:
Mary - one lives in Anoka, and the other in Coon Rapids -- I think both places are in the Minneapolis area
- ppp1154.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:56:31 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
Do you know when those Peschels came over?

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:57:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
We're cheering at our house today -- the Bills won today and the Michigan Wolverines won last night! I don't need a schedule to know when they're playing - my husband turns up in his Michigan sweatshirt at breakfast already!
- ppp1154.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:58:28 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
You really should try to make it to the Treffen. I already told my husband we HAVE to go.!

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 02:59:42 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I think there was a Frank Peschel who came. It says in his birth records that he went to Ely, Minnesota. I would have to say about 1900, he was born in 1881
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 03:00:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good luck to the Bills. Condolences on the Browns. Has Cleveland taken to them or do they still yearn for the old team?
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 03:00:45 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well Gang,
It's back to the old grindstone for me. So I must say good-night. glad I got a chance to talk to you.
Take care.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 03:01:01 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
and a Marie Peschel came, she was born 1882, so probably around 1900 also
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 03:01:12 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Good night Holly
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 03:02:04 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good night, Holly. And I must put another load in the dishwasher - haven't figured out how to do that via the computer yet! It's been fun.
Gute Nacht!

- ppp1154.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 03:03:05 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Good Night Ridy
- spider-ta056.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 03:04:54 (GMT)
Doreen Sandor Girardi:
Happy New Year. It has been a long time since I have logged in here . . . and I may be too late tonight to chat with anyone.

- 206-57-105-201.nas2.MON.gblx.net - Monday, January 03, 2000 at 03:56:42 (GMT)
Doreen Cooney:
Hi everyone--

Where did you get a video of Gottschee from?

- spider-tn034.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 02:07:50 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, everyone! I'm late. Hope you all had a good week. Nice here in KCMO. Rain and 43. Not bad for Jan. You can get a Gottschee video from the Gottscheer Relief Assoc.in Ridgewood, N.Y. I'll look up the addess, if no one else logs on with it. My personal copy of the video is being loaned around and I've only seen it once.
- KSCYB205-08.splitrock.net - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 02:20:54 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Doreen Cooney: Gottscheer address is: 657 Fairview Ave. Ridgewood, NY 11385. Cost $35.
- KSCYB205-08.splitrock.net - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 02:22:43 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Everybody!
I'm going to Kitchener this coming week to show the video to my aunts and cousins -- two of the aunts are on that video

- ppp19581.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 02:24:26 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
I'm back. Had to switch to email, to let incoming pictures of our friends' new
greyhound puppies come through. 11 in all! Wow!

- KSCYB205-08.splitrock.net - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 02:31:53 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Hi all--everyone having a good new year so far?
- pool0621.cvx25-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 02:49:47 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Joe! Are you sweltering down there in California? We have rain again today.
- ppp19581.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 02:52:21 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello to everyone.

- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 02:59:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have a question and was wondering if anyone could tell me what parish Kletsch was in?
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 03:00:51 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Jim -
If nobody else comes up with the answer for you, Jim, I'll try to remember to ask my aunts when I'm home in Kitchener this week -- unless I find it in my book of churches in the meantime.

- ppp19581.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 03:02:27 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I guess I missed everyone. Have a good night.
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 03:02:35 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Oh, Hi Ridy. I have it listed as Altlag but I see a number of people from Kletsch marrying in Tschermoschnitz. They may have been cross overs.
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 03:03:35 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Jim - just found it -- seems to be in Altlag
- ppp19581.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 03:03:42 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Tell me how the visit goes.
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 03:04:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Got your email. No flu, just tired. A good night's sleep and voila`.
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 03:05:07 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
It will be interesting, I'm sure. Apparently one of the old bearded gentlemen shown with my grandparents in Ebental is my great-grandfather!!! I'm taking along a tape recorder -- wish I knew how Linda the Trip did it - a tape recorder may inhibit them - but I hope not!
- ppp19581.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 03:06:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Going to sign off for now. May check back later.
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 03:06:43 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I think they will get into the tape and start reminiscing. I wish some of grandparents or granduncles,aunts were alive to look at the tape. Everyone has been gone for so long.
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 03:07:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Take care and have a good week.
- spider-tn013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 03:08:17 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Hi Ridy,
I just wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed your story about your Uncle Albert in the Gottcheer Tree . I agree
with your sentiments that the War was such a waste of life.
My grandmother lost her brother Georg Nadler (who left 4
young children) in Ort #4 ,and also a 1st cousin Alois
Handler from Koflern #8 in WWI. There names are on a plaque
on the church in Mitterdorf .Georg was only about 40 at the time ,and my grandmother and his other brothers lived well
into their 80's. Anyhow thanks for your wonderful story.

- di80.nassaulibrary.org - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 03:22:58 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Just checked back here and found your message, John Sorli -
Thank you so much for your kind words - I appreciate them very much!

- ppp1141.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 10, 2000 at 03:44:20 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello to all. Was 60 something in KCMO yesterday. 40 some today. Rain and freezing rain tonight. Winter eventually catches up to you. Hope all had a super week. Is Eddie Stalzer on by any chance tonight??
- KSCYB212-35.splitrock.net - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 02:08:45 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Where is everyone tonight? Must be busy. Anything good on TV tonight? Can't stay on much longer.
- KSCYB212-35.splitrock.net - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 02:16:54 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello Margaret It has been beautiful in Canon City this week also. I don't know where everyone is.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 02:20:55 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must log off. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- KSCYB212-35.splitrock.net - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 02:23:49 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Mary / Margaret -
It's cold in Toronto! It usually is in January.

- ppp285.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 02:35:03 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Ridy Margaret has already logged off
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 02:36:01 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Mary - Have you received the Gottscheer video yet? Can't remember if you said you were ordering it or not.
- ppp285.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 02:39:55 (GMT)
:
Is anyone on?
- 1Cust218.tnt14.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 02:40:08 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Yes - I think two of us are on
- ppp285.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 02:41:28 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy I have not ordered the video yet, and I really need to get that done
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 02:49:09 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Mary -
I really think it's a must for anyone who wants to know what Gottschee was like -

- ppp285.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 02:52:05 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
that is what I thought, It is the only way I will ever know what it was like for my great grandparents.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 02:52:42 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Can't recall what area of Gottschee your great grandparents were from. . .
- ppp285.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 02:55:52 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
they are from Bistrica, #1 and #5 plus some of are from Doblice
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 02:57:59 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I don't recall seeing those places on the video, but that doesn't mean that they're not on there -- Gottschee was such a small place, and one place is not that different from another
- ppp285.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 03:01:47 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Must sign off, Mary. Take care. . .
Gute Nacht

- ppp285.on.bellglobal.com - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 03:03:59 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I would be interesting in it anyhow. Ok Ridy see you later. Gute Nacht.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 03:07:16 (GMT)
Ann Hoegler Androsoff:
Hi
Is anyone still on?

- 209.53.27.4 - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 03:12:06 (GMT)
Ann Hoegler. Knapfl. Androsoff:
Well everyone, I guess you've all left so I entertained myself by reading the last few notes and I also have the Video. It really is a hit, just wish my parents were still here to see it.
- 209.53.27.4 - Monday, January 17, 2000 at 03:21:37 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
This is my first time "chatting" I just wanted to say hello and I agree with you. I have developed mental pictures of what Gottschee was like from my Grandparents stories, it was great to actually see what it was like. I have seen still pictures but to see movements, gestures and expressions was wonderfull.
- 205.232.51.243 - Tuesday, January 18, 2000 at 21:40:52 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Note to Erika and Ann -
Just in case you're not aware, the time for the Plauderzimmer is Sunday evening between 9 and 10 in the Eastern time zone (3 hours earlier for you, Ann). Wish you could join us then!

- ppp5622.on.bellglobal.com - Wednesday, January 19, 2000 at 01:14:06 (GMT)
Sophia Stalzer Wyant:
Regarding Jim Heiman's inquiry about the village of Kletsch. There are 2 villages by that name. One in the Parish of Altlag, the other in the Parish of Stockendorf.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Friday, January 21, 2000 at 02:13:56 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello All: It snowed in KCMO today. 1 inch. Not much to brag about, but it's more than we've had all winter. Need moisture real bad! ANyone on tonight? Eddie Stalzer??
- KSCYB109-31.splitrock.net - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 01:48:35 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello All: It snowed in KCMO today. 1 inch. Not much to brag about, but it's more than we've had all winter. Need moisture real bad! ANyone on tonight? Eddie Stalzer??
- KSCYB109-31.splitrock.net - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 01:53:46 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi everyone,
We didn't get snow today. Maybe the weather people are right, and the snow belt really is shifting. Why not? with age, my belt is shifting too!

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:03:35 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Holly, Glad that you are on. I almost logged off. Where do you live? I forgot. Sorry.
- KSCYB109-31.splitrock.net - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:06:10 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Northern Ohio Margaret, but we seem to get about what you get.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:07:48 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello everyone!
Just changed my e-mail address - and it's now
ridy@home.com
I'm now on cable - which frees up the telephone in the house
Hope it works!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:07:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
You will have to let us know how you like it.
My sister doesn't have a computer, but does have the Cable. but she can't print anything. What about you?

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:09:33 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
What do you mean she can't print anything? I'm still using the same old computer - for the past ten minutes now - and I hope I can print! I go through that paper pretty fast! Haven't learned to do my 'filing' on the computer. . . old habits die hard.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:12:17 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
It must be a different system that she has. She doesn't have a computer.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:13:14 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I was offered the option of also having e-mail on my phone but I didn't take that. Is that what she has, maybe?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:14:27 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
perhaps that is what she has. I never really saw the system. I know her phone is tied up with it.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:16:28 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Well - so far not so good... I just got bumped off twice!
Margaret - that was quite an accident in your area of the world today .. .

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:24:23 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Got bumped off too. Funny.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:25:18 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
haven't had the news on all day. What's up?
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:26:31 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
It must be in the atmosphere - -
a 70-car pileup outside Kansas City -

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:27:40 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
How awful.
We have some family in N. Carolina and during this last storm there was over 650 accidents due to early morning commute. The snow melted by noon. That is alot of accidents.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:29:21 (GMT)
Ridy:
OK - I'm off - just got bumped again, so something is wrong
with the connection. Time to call the technical support people. Good night!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:31:28 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Night Ridy,
Night Margaret,
and Night Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:32:14 (GMT)
Margaaret Jonke:
One of our most popular KC Chiefs players-Derrick Thomas- was in a terrible accident and broke his back. Am waiting for the 9PM news to get more details. Must sign off. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- KSCYB206-33.splitrock.net - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 02:41:40 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Is anyone still on tonite??
- spider-wa013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 24, 2000 at 03:47:13 (GMT)
FRANZ MAUSSER:
I JUST DISCOVERED THE GOTTSHEER BULLETINBOARD AND PLAUDER STUNDE, WHAT A SURPRISE. I NEVER THOUGHT GOTTSCHEER WOULD BE
ON THE INTERNET. I AM FROM KOMUTZEN, ANYBODY FROM THERE?

- 1Cust251.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 01:22:04 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello Franz...I discovered about 5 months ago that Gottschee existed and that is where my great grand parents came from. Their names were Joseph Peschel and Maria Roschitsch. The Peschels are from Bistriz and Roschitsch from Doblice and Rozicverh before that.
- spider-tj012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:03:24 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, everyone. Everybody's probably watching the Super Bowl, though I don't think it's been very super so far.
- KSCYB104-32.splitrock.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:12:18 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Dear Franz, Welcome aboard! Isn't it exciting to find out you have so many countrymen. I just got a gift membership in the Gottscher Heritage and Gen Assoc. from my cousin Annette Jonke. Boy, is there a lot of material there. You might want to check on their web site and maybe get a membership. There's so much to learn. Have you heard about the Gottschee Video? That's wonderful! Makes me cry everytime I watch it.
- KSCYB104-32.splitrock.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:15:28 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Margaret Hello who does I write to to order the video?
- spider-tj012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:17:01 (GMT)
FRANZ:
MARY, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY MESSAGE, IN JUNE OF 1998 I MADE A VERY SHORT TRIP TO GOOTTSCHEE, 6 HOURS, DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, LOVED IT AND PLAN TO GO BACK.
- 1Cust212.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:17:24 (GMT)
FRANZ:
MARY, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY MESSAGE, IN JUNE OF 1998 I MADE A VERY SHORT TRIP TO GOOTTSCHEE, 6 HOURS, DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, LOVED IT AND PLAN TO GO BACK.
- 1Cust212.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:17:25 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Franz, I would love to go there someday. the rest of my relatives are from Germany, so it is my dream to go there and look up lots of history.
- spider-tj012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:20:46 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Everyone,
Glad to welcome a new person. Hi Franz,

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:23:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I sure hope that everyone gets that video. The dress, the tools, the way of life. It sure brings it closer.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:25:32 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Holly, How do I order the video??
- spider-tj012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:26:21 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh, I think it is the Gottschee Relief Society.
I will have to look it up. Seems like someone added the address in a chat a few weeks ago?

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:27:25 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Mary, The video can be bought for $35 from the Gottscheer Relief Assoc. The address is: 657 Fairview Ave. Ridgewood, NY 11385. The first 500 copies went fast, next 200 probably gone already. They probably will print more.
- KSCYB104-32.splitrock.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:27:58 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Thanks Margaret,
You just saved me from having to look it up.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:28:55 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Holly, Always glad to help someone find their roots. My relative, Marie Wolf, age 88, born in Gottschee, now living in KCMO is already trying to get a group to go to the treffen in Toronto on Labor Day. I told her to sign me up., I had a ball at the one in Cleveland last year.
- KSCYB104-32.splitrock.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:31:11 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Thanks Margaret Does that mean they are sold out right now? Can I send them a check for $35 and order it, or is there postage also?
- spider-tj012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:31:16 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Margaret,
Sorry we didn't meet in Cleveland. Perhaps we will meet in Toronto, as I already told my Husband "we are going"

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:33:12 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Mary, Just send your check for $35. That's all. But you have to wait quite a while to get the video. I waited about 3 weeks and I was one of the first to order, after I got the newsletter. For $5 per year, you can get on the newsletter mailing list. Really interesting.
- KSCYB104-32.splitrock.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:33:43 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Maybe all us Plauderzimmers can wear something special, so we will recognize each other. I was at the Cleveland Treffen, and didn't expect it to be so large or so spread out.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:35:08 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ok I will send it in. I can wait, altho I am not very good at it. lol Is the mailing list the same address to join as the video?
- spider-tj012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:35:25 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Holly, I met so many people in Cleveland. Our distant cousin, Pete Yonke, of Pensacola was there. That man is a geneology freak. He sends us so much family tree info that we can hardly digest it all before the next batch comes. It's really great to have a cousin like Pete.
- KSCYB104-32.splitrock.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:35:45 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Margaret,
That is soo wonderful. I know I would love Pete, as I am the same way. You can never have too many relatives.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:36:48 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
As a small footnote. My grandmother, Rosalia Jonke, was Jonke before and after her marriage to my grandfather, Johann Jonke, of Kummerdorf. So we have lots of Yonke,Jonke cousins all over. Gottscheers are everywhere.
- KSCYB104-32.splitrock.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:38:14 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
My grandmothers first name was Rosalia also.
- spider-tj012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:39:13 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh Mary,
Hurry and send it in. It is such a treasure, you are not going to believe it. The first time thru, I was just stunned. The second time thru, you start peering at the tools, the baskets, the clothes, the statues,etc. and straining your neck to see just around the corner!

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:39:13 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly, I know I will love the video also. I have been really curious about my greatgrandparents life before they came here. Of course we dont know much about their life after they first came here either.
- spider-tj012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:40:38 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Margaret, My grandmothers name was Rosalia also, and I wondered how she got that name, until I saw it in the Gottschee records.
- spider-tj012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:41:51 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
I first thought Rosalia was Italian until I heard my Mother-in-law speak it. It is not "Rose a lee a" BUT "Rose Zal ya"
very beautiful.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:45:05 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Mary, My omah (grandma) was always called Rosie, so I never knew her real name, Rosalia, until good old cousin Pete brought it to our attention. That guy can find out the strangest things. He's really a wonder!
- KSCYB104-32.splitrock.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:45:40 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
My grandmother was always Rose and I didnt know it was Rosalia until I found her birth records this summer.
- spider-tj012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:48:34 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well,
I must say good night now, as I still have some records to check before bedtime. Nice talking to you. Take care

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:48:46 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly that is how I have been pronouncing it and did not know if it was right. thanks
- spider-tj012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:49:04 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Goodnight Holly Nice chatting.
- spider-tj012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:49:55 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
The Rams just won the Super Bowl!! Boy, are we proud of our St. Louis brothers.! Musts log off. Auf Wiedersehen und blieb gesund.
- KSCYB104-32.splitrock.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:56:27 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Good night Margaret thanks for the address
- spider-tj012.proxy.aol.com - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 02:57:16 (GMT)
FRANZ:
HOLLY, MARY , MARGARET, I JUST TURNED THE TUBE OFF.(THE GAME OF COURSE) HOPE YOU ARE STILL AWAKE. IT IS NICE TO LEARN ABOUT ALL THE GOTTSCHEE.
- 1Cust44.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, January 31, 2000 at 03:35:37 (GMT)
William Morrissey:
My Gr Grandmother Maria Koenig married Alois "Louis" Fink they lived in NY. She was one of four Joseph, John and Franz fathered by Joseph Koenig from Altalog. She was b. Feb 28, 1885. Franz Koenig fathered {A}lbina, Emmerick, etc. The (Peter) Gladitschs' of Ridgewood, NY believe she was from the village of Langenton. Anyone's memory jogged?
- spider-ti062.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, February 05, 2000 at 21:16:07 (GMT)
Fred Falkner:
looking for my schoolmates From City Gottschee 1939-41
- spider-wb023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:15:52 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Somewhere on the page I saw that someone used to live in Graz, me too. In In Goesting, Iwent in Goesting to Volksschule then to Froebel Hauptschule. Who lives in Canon City? I have property in Fremont & custer Counties.
- 1Cust33.tnt42.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:22:09 (GMT)
William Morrissey:
Anyone online?
- spider-wo072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:25:33 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello everyone. Hi Franz. I live in CanonCity. Where is your property?
- spider-th014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:26:11 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Gruess Euch Gott, Alle miteinander!
Franz - I used to live in Graz (May 1945 to September 1948) and attended the Ursulinenkloster. My brother, Alfons, attended the Lichtenfels Gymnasium. We used to make Sunday afternoon Ausfluege to the Ruine Goesting! When were you in Graz?

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:27:13 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi! I'm late. Who's logged on tonight? Got email from "John" Thank you. Are you on tonight?
- KSCYB105-34.splitrock.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:27:46 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Fred -
I have cousins in Nuernberg and Vancouver who attended school in the City of Gottschee; so did Arnold Rom and his siblings; Arnold has a beautiful web site about Gottschee.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:29:15 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Mary, Margaret, and William!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:30:22 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: If you are on, please translate, "Garuess Euch Gott, alle miteinander" Thanks so much. I have a small notebook of handy German phrases and I'd like to add that one to my list. Thanks
- KSCYB105-34.splitrock.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:32:16 (GMT)
greg:
Hello, Gottscheers! I'm a novice in your Plaudezimmer.
- 1Cust12.tnt30.dfw5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:32:38 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi everyone
- spider-th014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:33:25 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Greg: You are certainly welcome. You can learn so much here. It's amazing!
- KSCYB105-34.splitrock.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:34:19 (GMT)
Ridy:
Margaret - it just means - loosely translated - Hi Everybody!
Hi Greg - welcome!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:34:39 (GMT)
greg:
Thanks, Margaret. I just stumbled into the Gottschee history this past week and realized that my maternal grandfather's family came from Gehack/Suchen area. We never really understood the tangled history until now. I've run through some of the many Gottschee web items this week and had to print off tons of it to mail to my mother to read. I haven't found any direct connections on these web sites yet, but I'm having fun looking!
- 1Cust12.tnt30.dfw5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:35:44 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Thanks a lot! Always anxious to enlarge my German vocabulary.
- KSCYB105-34.splitrock.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:35:50 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Greg...you will find lots of stuff on these pages. I sure have.
- spider-th014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:37:33 (GMT)
Franz:
Hi Ridy
Servus former Grazer. I used to live in Graz from 1946 to 1948. We used to go to the Ruine after school and went home
via Plabutsch Mountain. Used to go to church at Kalvarienberg, Maria Trost, Grazer Dome. Many Memories.

- 1Cust70.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:38:06 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Greg: Be sure to send for the Gottschee video. It's wonderful! Can be gotten from the Gottscheer Relief Org. Will look up the address for you, if no one on line here can get it quicker.
- KSCYB105-34.splitrock.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:38:23 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Margaret, My slip with the address is not handy either. However, it is probably in last weeks pages of this chat yet.
- spider-th014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:40:35 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - you and I have a history in common! Maria Trost was one of our favourite destinations and so was the Dom. We lived on the Schubertstrasse (im Markhof). I was confirmed in the Dom! Have lived in Canada since 1948 - except for two years we spent in Ann Arbor, Michigan, and one year in Zurich. Are you planning to come to the Gottscheer Treffen here in Toronto this coming September?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:42:01 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Greg:: Make a note that you should attend the treffen in Toronto over Labor Day. Super good time! And so much history.
- KSCYB105-34.splitrock.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:43:16 (GMT)
Ridy:
The video can be ordered from
Mr. Ernst Eppich
Gottscheer Relief Association
84-36 267th Street
Floral Park, New York, 11001-1160

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:45:30 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Sorry. Must log off. Work to do. Auf Wiedersehen und bleib gesund.
- KSCYB105-34.splitrock.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:46:36 (GMT)
Ridy:
'bye Margaret
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:47:02 (GMT)
greg:
Margaret/Mary/Ridy,
I think I had downloaded reference data about the Relief Org. earlier, so I'll check there. I remember seeing dialogue about the video, and I'll bet it's grand. As for Toronto...well, it could happen as my wife still complains that she wants to get all of us into that area, and it would certainly be cooler than Texas here!

- 1Cust12.tnt30.dfw5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:47:18 (GMT)
greg:
Margaret/Mary,
Just saw Ridy's address for the video. Thanks, Ridy!

- 1Cust12.tnt30.dfw5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:48:54 (GMT)
:
Bye Ridy and Margaret
- spider-th014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:48:56 (GMT)
Ridy:
Can't promise that it'll be cool, Greg, but it will definitely be cooler than Texas!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:49:03 (GMT)
Franz:
Mary
If you drive to Cotopaxi turn left to Hillside and Westcliffe. Seven miles from cotopaxi on the left hand side
lies Eagle Peak Ranch, at the foot of the Sangres , what a beautiful spot. we visit frequently. We take raftingtrips on
the Arkansas River through the Royal Gorge. Wow.

- 1Cust188.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:49:19 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Franz well the next time you are here, you better stop and see me. I own the Waterhole #1, a liquor store close to the Belvedere resturant.
- spider-th014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:50:54 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Franz where do you live?
- spider-th014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:51:18 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, we moved from Graz to Kapfenberg, I left Kapfenberg in
1959 for Chicago. Then in 1965 I relocated to Barington a suburb of Chicago.

- 1Cust188.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:58:42 (GMT)
Franz:
Mary, I live in Barrington, Il a Suburb of Chicago.
- 1Cust188.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 02:59:55 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Franz....when are you planning another trip to Fremont County. And you are right, it is beautiful where you have your land.
- spider-th014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 03:02:33 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz -
I had a question recently about the Children's Choir of
Kapfenberg -- were you by chance a member or do you know anyone who was and might have a photograph of it?
My e-mail address is ridy@home.com

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 03:05:10 (GMT)
Franz:
Mary, perhaps late spring, summer and in the fall. Defenitely plan to look you up at your Waterhole.
- 1Cust188.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 03:06:23 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Just remember the name, the number is in the phone book, and if I am not there, I am always reachable by my cell phone. It will be fun chatting in person. I have met many relatives in person, after meeting them on the internet.
- spider-th014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 03:08:09 (GMT)
Ridy:
'Bye for this week, Mary, Greg and Franz -- see you next week!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 03:10:40 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, no I was not a member, but I could find out about it, I still have silblings living there. Any specific time period?
- 1Cust188.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 03:10:47 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Bye Ridy
- spider-th014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 03:11:33 (GMT)
Franz:
Gute Nacht Alle.
- 1Cust188.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 03:13:05 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - I'll have to check back in my messages - it was in the l950s. . .
Just checked back and realize your name is Mausser -- my mother was a Mausser - from Ebental. Are we related?

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 03:13:47 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, I am from Komutzen, there were multiple Maussers in that area. Do you know the name of her house?
- 1Cust188.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 03:19:30 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, I am from Komutzen, there were multiple Maussers in that area. Do you know the name of her house?
- 1Cust188.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 03:19:31 (GMT)
Franz:
Mary, perhaps late spring, summer and in the fall. Defenitely plan to look you up at your Waterhole.
- 1Cust188.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 03:22:55 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - mother's home was called "Boemasch" -if you see the video of Gottschee (1936) my grandparents and aunts are on it -- they owned the Gasthaus where the visiting priests had their dinner.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 07, 2000 at 03:25:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello everyone.

- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:04:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Or should I say --- hello, is anyone there?
- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:05:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Will post an email and be right back.
- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:05:32 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, everyone. Happy Valentine's Day to all. Cold, rainy, depressing here in KCMO. Hope all of you had a good week.
- KSCYB105-41.splitrock.net - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:05:38 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi, everyone, Hi Jim or should I call you cousin. Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. Yes I am very interested in what you have to offer. Perhaps I can share some of my knowledge.

- 1Cust19.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:13:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Margaret. Cloudy to sunny here in NJ with rain on the way. Still snow on the ground but it is time to clear it up. Sad to hear about Derrick Thomas.
- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:13:37 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Jim is alright but we are distant cousins if my information is right. I will try to retrieve your email address and send you what I have. If I am right, it will take you back a year or two.
- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:14:50 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim,
Big visitation for Derrick Thomas tomorrow at our football stadium, complete with a fly-over by some fighter planes. Hope the weather is warm, the whole things will be out on the football field at Arrowhead. Big service Tuesday at our exhibition hall. Final burial in Miami.

- KSCYB105-41.splitrock.net - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:16:16 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello from snowy Toronto! We're having the sort of snowfall mixed with rain which will probably cause traffic problems in the morning -- but lucky me, I get to stay home with the cat!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:18:32 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy:
If all goes well, I will be at the treffen in Toronto with some people from KCMO. Hope we can meet one another and talk. It would be fun to meet the plauderzimmer people in person.

- KSCYB105-41.splitrock.net - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:20:56 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello Ridy. Left you an email. It seems like your address is working okay.

Franz, can you list those names again so I can send you that file?

- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:21:25 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Got cut off somehow. Am I back now??
- KSCYB105-41.splitrock.net - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:23:31 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Glad to hear you're planning to come to the Treffen in Toronto. I just got the information sheet on Thursday - it's all going to be held at the Holiday Inn Select Toronto Airport, which makes it very convenient for out-of-towners, and the chef is Swiss. My reservation is in the mail. We live in the south-east part of Toronto, and the airport is in the north-west corner, so I'll stay at the Hotel as well.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:25:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I hear you loud and clear, Margaret.
- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:25:34 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, can you send me the information on the Treffen again. Dates, location, phone numbers. Does the GHGA have the information?
- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:27:54 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, I am looking forward to see your task. I don,t have any contact with any relatives, if there are any, in the US.
My sister recently mailed me a photo from Komutzen which was taken sometime in the thirties. not the best quality. I would be very happy to share. Komutzen does not exist any longer, was burned down by Titos Partisans.

- 1Cust63.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:30:44 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, located your address and the name. Sent you the text file. You can open it with any standard word processing program. Are you still with us?
- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:31:34 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, do you mean the names of my parents? Josef Mausser (Kiaschnasch) and Pauline Schmied (Andrsch).
- 1Cust63.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:35:52 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz,
One of my cousins went to Gottschee some years back and said Toto's people tore up all the monuments and grave markers to grind up and pave the roads. Is that true?? I couldn't hardly believe it. Just wanted your input on that story. Thanks

- KSCYB105-41.splitrock.net - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:36:11 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz,
Forgive my typing. I meant Tito, not Toto. Guess my mind was wandering, when I typed that.Sorry

- KSCYB105-41.splitrock.net - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:37:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Between the Italians, the partisans, the Germans and the Allied bombardment --- I think a lot of it was a joint effort in destruction. Franz, I would love to have a copy of the picture. Do you have a scanner? Have you seen some of the pictures of Gottschee online? I don't think there were many (if any) of Komutzen.
- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:38:55 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, we understood. Your mind was wandering down the yellow brick road in Kansas with Toto and Dorothy.
- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:39:51 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must go. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- KSCYB105-41.splitrock.net - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:41:16 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Margaret, yes it is true a lot of destruction. My late Parents and my Silblings in Austria visited a couple of times and told me Komutzen, Unterwarmberg, Rotenstein and other villages in that area are all gone. The area became Titos and his hordes hunting ground. Onle some foundations and a few bricks from the church tower was visible.
- 1Cust63.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:41:49 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, that is what others have told me ----- the area is beautiful and was kept as a vacation area for the communist elite (so much for a classless society). From your comments, were you the only child to come to the USA from Komutzen#14? I don't know the names of the houses but recognize them from the numbers.

Good night, Margaret

- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:44:47 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, I must ask you te be patient. I am a novice of this. I promise to accomadate you.
- 1Cust63.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:46:57 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Gottscheer Treffen - Toronto - September 2, 3, and 4
Reservations should be sent to Mr. Norbert Lackner, Gottscheer Relief Association, 82 Bartley Drive, Toronto, Ontario, M4A 1C4 - Telephone: 416 - 757-1390 or: 905 - 986-4478 The functions will be held at the newly renovated Holiday Inn Select Toronto Airport... Rooms are $92 US per night (very special rate) for up to 4 Persons per room -- and the admission, which includes a buffet on Saturday evening and lunch on Sunday, is $60 US per person. Parking is $5.00 for the weekend. And if you're flying in, there's a free shuttle between the airport and the hotel.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:48:00 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Gottscheer Treffen - Toronto - September 2, 3, and 4
Reservations should be sent to Mr. Norbert Lackner, Gottscheer Relief Association, 82 Bartley Drive, Toronto, Ontario, M4A 1C4 - Telephone: 416 - 757-1390 or: 905 - 986-4478 The functions will be held at the newly renovated Holiday Inn Select Toronto Airport... Rooms are $92 US per night (very special rate) for up to 4 Persons per room -- and the admission, which includes a buffet on Saturday evening and lunch on Sunday, is $60 US per person. Parking is $5.00 for the weekend. And if you're flying in, there's a free shuttle between the airport and the hotel.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:49:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
You are doing very well. Posting messages in a chat room is very difficult. I liken it to a something that is part phone call and part letter. I thank the Franciscan brothers for teaching me how to type in grammar school. It has helped in so many ways and is great for the internet.
- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:52:02 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Yes Jim, however, my paternal Grandfather emigrated in the late 1800, worked in the coalmines somewhere in Pen. Latest mail from him was in 1946 from Harrisburg. I think his name was Anton Mausser. Does he show up in your tree?
- 1Cust63.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:52:21 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, thank you for the information. Will try to make it. Good to hear about your cousin. Going to try to make it up to Lukan's restaurant in Pennsylvania this spring or summer. Will be going to the German deli for some wursts later in the week.


- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:53:25 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I've told Mr. Lackner you're all expecting some Krainerwurst on the menu!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:55:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, he does show up as well as many others going back to the 1700's. Can you check you email? It should be in there as a text file. If you have any problems, give a yell. Anton is in there from Komutzen#18.
- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:55:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Krainerwurst sounds all right with me.
- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:56:51 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Ridy, The name Boemasch does not ring a bell with me.
- 63.31.212.133 - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:57:44 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Ridy, The name Boemasch does not ring a bell with me.
- 63.31.212.133 - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:57:44 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz - they had the Gasthaus in Ebental. Have you seen the video of Gottschee taken in 1936?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 02:59:05 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, no I have not seen it. Have to order it.
- 63.31.212.133 - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 03:02:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, doing a little checking for Anton.
- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 03:04:00 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
What's the weather like up Chicago way, Franz? I'm feeling just a tad sorry for myself, snowbound as I am. My husband is golfing down in South Carolina this week, one of my neighbours is in Hawaii and the other in Florida! Lucky for me someone has offered to shovel all the driveways, because that's not an activity I normally volunteer for.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 03:07:53 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, thank you. You seem to be an expert.
- 63.31.212.133 - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 03:08:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Going to sign off for now. Franz, take care. I am your cousin and also a cousin of Ridy but so far no link between you and Ridy. Ridy, Franz's Hogler ancestors were from Kukendorf but back in the early 1700's. Must be a link but it will be hard to reach back that far. The answer would be in the early Altlag parish records and I am not that good with the script.
- spider-to058.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 03:09:24 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, dont feel bad, I just came inside. Cleared my driveway
3" of snow. IT IS WINTER enjoy.

- 63.31.212.133 - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 03:11:10 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good Night All.
- 63.31.212.133 - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 03:12:51 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Gute Nacht!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 14, 2000 at 03:16:00 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hellooooooooo, anyone out there tonight?
- 1Cust87.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 02:08:27 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Yo, Frank! I'm on line. Hope you all had a good week. Super nice in KC today. Allmost 60.
- KSCYB107-42.splitrock.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 02:11:58 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz: Sorry I called you Frank. Typo.
- KSCYB107-42.splitrock.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 02:13:01 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Looks like there's not much action tonight. Must go do some work. Gute Nacht.
- KSCYB107-42.splitrock.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 02:19:33 (GMT)
Franz:
Margaret, Frank will do too. I gather you are in KC. Would you know an old friend of mine by the name of Tony Pfaff. He is not a Gottscheer, but married a Gottscheer girl with the family name Schleimer. Slim chance, but I thought its
worth trying.

- 1Cust87.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 02:20:57 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Franz. How did you like the family tree? Did you receive it okay and were you able to open it?
- spider-tj051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 02:31:54 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, yes I received it and made copies. Thank you so much. Yes I can add some. For one, my father had a brother by the name Franz, married in 1941 Maria Mickolitsch and came in 1956 to the US. Had one son, Frank. Lost touch with them. Last residence was Ridgewood NY.
- 1Cust87.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 02:38:01 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Made it back. Working on some more data. Thank you for the update. Will work that into the file. I am glad you were able to get it.
- spider-tj051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 02:51:29 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Hi Franz and Jim! Jim - Sorry to hear of your wife's accident. Car accidents are so scary. I know of a local person who did two tours of duty in Vietnam and then came home and was paralyzed in a car accident. I hope she is feeling better soon.
- tc20modem158.tusco.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 02:56:42 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Franz- Where do you live? We live in New Philadelphia, Ohio.
- tc20modem158.tusco.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 02:58:43 (GMT)
Franz:
I will try to get more updated info from Austria and Germany. There are still a brother and a sister of my mother with us they can shed more Light on it. They are from the Scmid side and are Regina and Rudolf. Jim, I am so grateful for your work and Iam delighted to know I have a distant cousin. I have been very busy, I will try to email more about me.

- 1Cust87.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 03:00:07 (GMT)
Franz:
Teri, I live in the Chicago area- Barrington. Not too many Gottscheer here. No club-nothing.
- 1Cust87.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 03:05:51 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, I am very sorry to read about your wife's accident. Hope and pray it was not serious.
- 1Cust87.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 03:07:40 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Cleveland Gottscheer club is a two hour drive from us. I was there last year on one day of the Treffen. My parents attended the Treffen and also a 4th of July picnic at the club. It's a beautiful place.
- tc20modem158.tusco.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 03:08:08 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Have you always lived in the Chicago area?
- tc20modem158.tusco.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 03:09:06 (GMT)
Franz:
Yes Teri, since my arrival in 1959.
- 1Cust87.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 03:11:56 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Jim- Mom and Dad saw Eric Kraker today and passed on your hello. They meet every so often for lunch and a visit, usually in Akron, it's about half way.
- tc20modem158.tusco.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 03:11:59 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Do either of you have PCTV on your computers yet? My husband put it on ours and I love it. There is so much time you have to wait on the computer and then you can just watch TV.
- tc20modem158.tusco.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 03:14:23 (GMT)
Franz:
Good Night Jim, Good Night Teri. Hope you are on line next week.

- 1Cust87.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 03:19:36 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Good Night All!
- tc20modem158.tusco.net - Monday, February 21, 2000 at 03:31:37 (GMT)
Beatrice Shannon:
My maternal grandmother was Rose Mauser . She came to Cleveland in 1909 at the age of 19 and married John Krocker
three years later. They had 4 daughters: Amelia, Frieda,
Emma(my mother) and Marie -- all deceased. All the girls
raised their families in Cleveland with the exception of
Aunt Molly who lived in California. As a child, in the 50's,
I remember visiting great
Uncle Frank Krocker who had a beautiful fruit
farm in Madison, Ohio. The Krocker brothers were brewers
at one time in Cleveland. Other family names are Bauer,
Eppich (cousin Clara Tellian Eppich still living and pretty
sharp at 95+ years old and our source of stories about
Gottscher, her homeland). We are interested in our maternal
heritage and enjoyed the homepage.

- 2Cust147.tnt2.cleveland3.oh.da.uu.net - Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 02:50:53 (GMT)
Beatrice Shannon:
My maternal grandmother was Rose Mauser . She came to Cleveland in 1909 at the age of 19 and married John Krocker
three years later. They had 4 daughters: Amelia, Frieda,
Emma(my mother) and Marie -- all deceased. All the girls
raised their families in Cleveland with the exception of
Aunt Molly who lived in California. As a child, in the 50's,
I remember visiting great
Uncle Frank Krocker who had a beautiful fruit
farm in Madison, Ohio. The Krocker brothers were brewers
at one time in Cleveland. Other family names are Bauer,
Eppich (cousin Clara Tellian Eppich still living and pretty
sharp at 95+ years old and our source of stories about
Gottscher, her homeland). We are interested in our maternal
heritage and enjoyed the homepage.

- 2Cust147.tnt2.cleveland3.oh.da.uu.net - Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 03:01:14 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello Beatrice:
Do you have any idea from which part of Gottschee Rose Mausser/Mauser came? My mother was a Mausser from Ebental.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 14:38:27 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi to everyone. Lovely day in KCMO. Franz: I logged off too soon last week to answer your question. Sorry. I do not know the people you mentioned. Could ask Marie Wolf, who is our local "leader" so to speak for the Gottscheers.
- KSCYB209-30.splitrock.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:16:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Margaret. Just stopping by to say hello. Hope the good weather is heading this way.

- spider-wi043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:21:59 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Where is everyone? Probably watching TV. Jim: Hope you have good weather, too. By the way, where do you live? I forgot.
- KSCYB209-30.splitrock.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:24:35 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
New Jersey. It has been a little slow in the chat room recently. I look in every now and then but then bounce to do something else. When I come back there is a message but then they have left in the mean time.
- spider-wi043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:25:50 (GMT)
Franz:
Hi everyone, Hi Margaret, I just thought I ask. This friend of mine and I seem to missing each other everytime we visit our respective relatives in Austria. his relatives tell me he and his Gottscheer spouse are supposed to be active in organizations or clubs.
- 1Cust238.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:26:02 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz: We don't really have a club in KCMO. Marie Wolf gathers information and was the one who organized the trip to Cleveland for the treffen in Sept. Other than a loose-knit group, most my relatives, we are not very organized.
- KSCYB209-30.splitrock.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:28:16 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hello everybody!
We got up to 60F in Toronto today! I think that was a record-breaking high for this time of year!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:28:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello Franz and Ridy.
- spider-wi043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:29:25 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Ridy. Glad to hear you are enjoying some spring-like temps. My son in Fargo, ND, say they have had a very mild winter. It was 45 yesterday, today. Global warming, I guess.
- KSCYB209-30.splitrock.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:30:07 (GMT)
Franz:
Hi Jim, remember last week I mentioned the uncle of mine , Rudolf Schmid, I am sorry to say I had a call from one of my sisters in Austria, he passed on. One more direct source. he was a wonderful person, full of joy for life with a lot of love and humor.
- 1Cust238.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:33:15 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guess I will call it a night. Gute Nacht. Bleib gesund.
- KSCYB209-30.splitrock.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:35:08 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I wish I had known about my heritage earlier. My immediate family members passed on quite a while ago. I am so glad to be able to learn some history and culture from my internet friends.
- spider-wi043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:35:21 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Hello. Is anyone still on.
- pool-207-205-220-179.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:36:11 (GMT)
Franz:
Yes, I am still on. I guess since my discovery of the Plauderstunde a view weeks ago, I am hooked.
- 1Cust238.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:38:13 (GMT)
Ridy:
I'm back - Hi Erika -

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:39:33 (GMT)
Ridy:
Where's Holly? She's back from her holidays....
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:41:03 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, what are you going to do with all your at 60.
- 1Cust238.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:41:55 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Oops. I just figured out how to get new messages. I'm new to this.
- pool-207-205-220-179.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:42:01 (GMT)
Franz:
Erika, join my club. I just made a booboo with my last message to Ridy. Ridy I forgot the word SNOW.
- 1Cust238.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:44:09 (GMT)
Ridy:
Well, for one thing I opened both the back and front doors and let the fresh air circulate through the house....and I was outside cleaning off the deck - I feed peanuts to the squirrels all winter and they make an awful mess -- and I was admiring my beautiful Schneegloeckchen blooming in the garden....I even thought about ordering some seeds! Unfortunately it's going down close to freezing again soon
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:44:43 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi everyone,
I checked earlier and no one was about. Yep, I am home now and ready to get back to babysitting my Grandson.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:45:50 (GMT)
Ridy:
What snow? You mean the water it left behind! We did have some snow, not a whole lot, but that's all gone, and good riddance!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:46:41 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, would you like me to send you some of my squirrels and mess on my deck?
- 1Cust238.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:47:06 (GMT)
Ridy:
Did Marc grow a lot while you were gone, Holly?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:47:28 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
Yes he did. He got a hair cut and a new attitude.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:48:09 (GMT)
Ridy:
Don't tell me you're another nut case like me, Franz?
My husband has given up trying to reform me, and now he just brings home the bags of peanuts every week.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:49:15 (GMT)
Ridy:
You mean attitude as in "NO"
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:49:50 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Erika and Franz,

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:49:55 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Ridy, I am envious of your Schneegloeckchen. I live in Rochester NY and I haven't seen any yet. We had our windows open too. It is such a treat to have this mild weather in Feb.
- pool-207-205-220-179.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:50:13 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, I guess I will have to hurry and compile some living history about Gottschee. As I promised I will forward whatever I can gather.
- 1Cust238.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:50:15 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
yes, I mean know.
Hey I feed the squirrels and chipmunks corn.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:50:49 (GMT)
Ridy:
Actually, mine are on the south side of the house, so I think they get an early start. The first ones came up in late January, and then they got covered by about a foot of snow, but they survived.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:51:49 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yesterday was 68 degrees in Northern Ohio. Today is cooler but "no coat" weather.
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:51:56 (GMT)
Ridy:
Holly - do you mean corn as in corn-on-the-cob? Yeah - but you've got a whole park behind you....but no mess that way, eh?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:53:20 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, my answer is YES, except I am trying to feed the birds but just cant,t keeep these pesky squirrels away. Howabout wooodchucks, racoons, deer, fox, cayote? I have them all.
- 1Cust238.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:54:14 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - do you get the video yet? My cousin in Germany, to whom I sent it, was really blown away by it and has ordered several copies
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:54:41 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, no, not yet.
- 1Cust238.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:55:53 (GMT)
Ridy:
We have racoons (my Welsh mother-in-law- used to call them tycoons!) and we have fox and, unfortunately, skunks!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:56:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Holly. Welcome back.

- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:56:45 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
yes it is dried corn on the cob. They sell it at Wal-mart, etc. for squirrels. My son-in-law is a real peanut fan so he would never let us feed the squirrels peanuts.
Franz, I feed the squirrels in a different area of the yard and so far they stay away from the feeders.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:57:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
Erika - are you born over here or in Europe?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:57:09 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, please keep your skunks across the border, we don,t need any more.
- 1Cust238.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:57:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I like feeding the birds but the rodents of all shapes, sizes, and genealogies can stay away as can the CANADIAN geese who should stay in Canada.
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:57:57 (GMT)
Ridy:
OK Franz - they'd probably never make it through Customs!
Secret weapons, you know!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:59:03 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
I was born in Ridgewood NY. My Dad was born in Nesseltal and came over when he was young.
- pool-207-205-220-179.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:59:18 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Jim,
Glad to be back at the chat room. I caught up with my e-mails. Sophie Stalzer Wyant has met some Hoefferles so I am working on my Pollandl files today, trying to clean them up alittle

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 02:59:49 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hey - watch it about the geese -- they provide free fertilizer whether you want it or not! Good for the rubber boots industry!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:00:16 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Erika,
Nesselthal? Did you say Nesselthal. That is my 2nd favorite Parish to work on. Have you been to my site?
What's your dad's birth date?

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:02:04 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, please send them to Washington DC
- 1Cust201.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:02:09 (GMT)
Ridy:
All my father's family used to live in Ridgewood, Erika -
Karl, Ludwig, and Alfred Hoegler and their families and my
Tante Luise Tramposch Hoegler was from Nesseltal

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:02:46 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hmm,
I had over 40 Canadian Geese passing thru on my pond. and everything that passed thru them.!

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:03:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Erika, I was born in Brooklyn and grew up on Gates Avenue south of Myrtle Avenue. You have just perked up Holly and my ears with Nesseltal. Are you related to Victor Stalzer from Klagenfurt?
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:04:03 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - they're full up with fertilizer in Washington, don't you think? Or were you talking about the skunks?
My this is a smelly chat room today!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:04:11 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Franz,
Doesn't Washington D.C. stink enough?!!!!

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:04:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Canadian geese should stay in Canada. Any south of the border should be deported. We have a pond in the backyard and they sometimes decide to overnight and the mess is incredible.
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:05:56 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
Hi eveyone!
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:06:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, which Hoferles? I wonder if I have anything on them to help you with?
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:06:55 (GMT)
Franz:
I just lost my whole page of today. WHAT,S GOING ON ?
- 1Cust201.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:07:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Cousin Ed. Margaret was on earlier and there is an Erika Stalzer visiting who is from Nesseltal. Has to be a link there somewhere.
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:07:49 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, you should be able to get them back by clicking on "send your message or check for new messages".
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:08:39 (GMT)
Franz:
OOPS, it is back.
- 1Cust201.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:08:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Ilse & Eduard,
This must be a Stalzer night.
Erika,
My Mother in Law's grandfather was a Stalzer of Nesselthal.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:08:41 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
Hi Jim. Who is Erika Stalzer?
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:09:02 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, thank you. Good to have an old pro like you with us.
- 1Cust201.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:10:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
It would be an easy one cause Hoefferle married Hoefferle. Pollandl houses 17 and 27.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:10:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Erika was just on. Grew up in Ridgewood and her Stalzers came from Nesseltal. She did not give any names so I can't tell where she fits in.
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:11:39 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Holly: My dad's birthdate is November 2, 1940 His name is Karl His parents were Rudolf and Margaretha (Rom). What is your site I'd lvoe to take a look.

Riddy: Hoegler sounds familiar but I'm not sure. My grandfather sang in the Maennerchor and my dad was involved in the soccer.

Jim: I grew up on Forest Ave near Catalpa, I went to St Matthias School I don't know of a Victor in our family but who knows. I'm finding out how close knit the Gottscheer community is.

- pool-207-205-220-179.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:12:43 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, can run that tree forward a little bit and backward to the late 1700's. That match was between Johann Hoferle 12 22 1859 from Pollandl#17 and Agnes Hoferle 1 23 1849 from Pollandl#27.
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:14:51 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Sorry it takes me so long to reply. My typing is awful!!

Ilse and Eduard: Where are you from?

- pool-207-205-220-179.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:15:54 (GMT)
Ridy:
I'm guessing at your age, Erika - but you might have known the second generation, who would have been Neuers, Ludwigs, Gliebes, Siders, and Holds......
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:16:30 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Holly: who is your Mother in-law's grandfather?
- pool-207-205-220-179.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:16:51 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Birth records filmed only go to Apr 1940 for Nesselthal
oH, He was from Buchel 16 of Rudolf Stalzer and Rosa Roschitsch.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:18:26 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
Erika, Ilse knows your father. We all grew up in Glendale and Ridgewood. My Grandparents ran the Gottscheer Hall for 15 years until 1970. They were Hermann and Anna Jonke Lackner, from Nesseltal. Viktor Stalzer is my father's brother still living in Klagenfurt. He still contibutes to the Gottscheer Zeitung. As a matter of fact you can see him in the picture on the front page of the January issue, this year, left side.
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:18:27 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Ridy: I'm thirty-two. I know a Pamala Gliebe, we used to go to Swan Lake as Kids.
- pool-207-205-220-179.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:18:27 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
Hi Holly. My mother is on also.
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:20:03 (GMT)
Ridy:
Pamela just had a little boy on December 11 -- Christopher Karl
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:20:29 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Erika,
Aurelia Koenig's Grandfather was Mathias Stalzer of Untersteinwand 12, Nesselthal parish.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:20:34 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Eduard, Erika is your fourth cousin. Erika, I am related to Eduard but not to you. I can email what I have to you. However, I have your father's birthdate per the resettlement records as 11 1 1939. Father was Rudolf from Buchl#16 born 10 15 1910. Mother was Marijeta Rom from Buchl#8. Your father's house was listed as Buchl#3 in 1941.
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:21:24 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Holly: this is so exciting. My dad was actually from Buchel (I didn't know how to spell it). I only know my relatives as far back as my grandparents.
- pool-207-205-220-179.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:21:42 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Wow this is so great. Everyone knows someone!
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:22:03 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
Hi Erika! I now have another cousin. I get more everytime I log onto the Plauderzimmer, isn't that right Jim?
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:23:34 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Buchl = Buchel. Can be spelled either way.
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:24:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
I've just been in touch with Martha Tiefenbacher in Klagenfurt, who is Viktor Stalzer's daughter. Trixie had given me her e-mail address
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:24:28 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
That is great work. I just checked the marriage record.
Marijeta Rom was from Buchel 1 of Josef Rom/Maria Meditz

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:25:03 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
Ridy, Martha is my cousin.
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:25:07 (GMT)
Ridy:
Now, all together -- It's a small world after all!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:25:51 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Eduard, you are correct. How are things in the semi-north? Ridy is north north. You are only half the way there.

Erika, I went to medical school in Rochester. I really liked the area. Lived on Genesee Park Blvd. in the early 1980's.

- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:26:22 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
Ridy, my Mother is on also, she wants to know who you are.
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:26:47 (GMT)
Franz:
Guetei Nocht aulle. This is good night in Gottscheer dialect. Am I right? See you next week.
- 1Cust201.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:27:28 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Oh my!!! So much to take in at once.

Ridy: Congratulations to Pamala, if she remembers me it has been a looong time.

Jim: thanks I'll pass that on to my Father.

- pool-207-205-220-179.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:27:46 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Good night Franz,
Hope to see you next week

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:28:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, Martha is my cousin as well. Her father is the one who gave me a family tree and was one of my first genealogy boosters. Then along came Holly and the rest is history. (they gave me this addiction but it is good fun to link people)
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:28:28 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
Jim, how's it been with you and your family. I am visiting with my parents this weekend. Tuesday I am going back north where the snow is still on the ground.
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:28:44 (GMT)
Ridy:
Now Jim - look at your Atlas! I think I'm further south than either Franz or Eduard! Of course, I've been known to be wrong about matters of geography once or twice before in my life - but until somebody corrects me, I'm in the banana belt!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:28:52 (GMT)
Ridy:
See Jim -- there's no snow on the ground where I am!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:29:29 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
Hello All.
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:29:36 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Tom,
Time to add another Stalzer to your data base!

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:30:05 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
Hello Tom. its been along time since we talked.
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:30:34 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
Hi Ed! Yes, its been awhile.
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:31:12 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Jim: I like Rochester too. My husband grew up here. We get a lot more snow here than in Ridgewood. We live in Irondequoit, near the zoo.
- pool-207-205-220-179.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:31:23 (GMT)
Ridy:
Eduard - I am Wueksch'sch Ridy of Kukendorf -- my mother was Boemasch Mitze (Maria Mausser) of Ebental and father was Wilhelm Hoegler of Kukendorf.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:31:30 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
Ridy, where do you live. My parents and brother live in South Florida and I live in New Hampsire.
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:31:34 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ed, my wife, Linda, was in a bad car accident and fractured two vertebrae in her neck. Is now in a halo and is neurologically intact? Will be wearing it for a while. Everything else is good.
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:32:29 (GMT)
Ridy:
Guetei Nocht, Franze
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:33:06 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
Ridy, How have you been?
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:33:55 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
Jim, I wish her the best.
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:34:11 (GMT)
Ridy:
I live in Toronto, Eduard - but my family has lived in Canada since we came over in 1948
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:34:18 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Tom! Long time no hear!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:34:44 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Erika, familiar with the area. They get more snow but they handle it quite well. Had my first vegetable garden up there with seeds from Harris seeds. I think that was the name of the nursery.
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:34:57 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Thank you, Eduard.
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:35:25 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
Yes, been a long time too. I usually dont make it here till
late, if at all, on sundays.

- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:35:27 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
I have a cousin, Hannelore Strohl( daughter of Viktor Stalzer) who lives in Toronto.
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:35:32 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Well, I must sign off. It was great chatting with everyone and meeting new family. I hope to stop by next week. Good Night.
- pool-207-205-220-179.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:35:43 (GMT)
Ridy:
Boy - I must be getting tired -- I meant to say we came to Kitchener in l948....
I have a cousin, Nettie Hoegler Sider, who lives in Delray Beach in Florida

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:36:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Erika, if you want a copy of what I have. You can find my email address on the bulletin board.
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:36:24 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
Jim, I am waiting for the snow to melt before I can plant. Maybe in May!!!!!!!!!!
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:36:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
night Erika,
- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:36:45 (GMT)
Ridy:
That means that all the Stalzers will be coming to the Treffen in Toronto this September, right?!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:37:29 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
Erika, my email is estalze@banet.net. Keep in touch, new cousin.
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:37:47 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gute Nacht, Erika - I'll tell Pamela we chatted
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:38:01 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
Good night everyone!
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:38:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
New Hampshire must be tough. Some early vegetables ---- peas, lettuces, leaf crops. Minitomatoes. Probably no eggplant or peppers. How about cukes and zucchini?
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:38:27 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Goodnight Ed und Ilse.
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:38:49 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
I wanted to tell everyone to make sure to watch QVC on
3/7. die schlauberger will be playing during their fasching special. Die Schlauberger is an alpen-rock band from the Glendale, NY area w/ 2 gottscheers in it! More info is at our website : www.schlauberger.com !!!!!1

- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:39:09 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Good-night Ed and Ilse.

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:39:18 (GMT)
Ilse and Eduard Stalzer:
We'll have Tomatoes in august along with blueberries.
- user-38ldfim.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:39:19 (GMT)
Ridy:
Tom - are you bringing them to Toronto to play at the Treffen? Notice that I'm plugging the Treffen!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:41:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good luck with the tomatoes.
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:41:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am going to sign off for now. Take care and have a good week.
- spider-tm054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:41:51 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
yes, I agree,
It's time to say good-night. Take care

- jefdial-130.suite224.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:42:34 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gute Nacht, everybody - see you next Sunday!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:42:44 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
they played at the NY treffen 2 years ago...
3 band members were at the ohio treffen last uyear

- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:43:17 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
night all
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, February 28, 2000 at 03:43:30 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Guten Abend!
Anybody home?

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:03:55 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello Ridy I got my video! Have not watched all of it yet, but is so interesting..and now I know how to pronounce Gottschee.....
- spider-wg024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:05:08 (GMT)
Ridy :
Hi Mary!
Be sure to keep an eye open for Kukendorf and Ebental -- Kukendorf is very brief, but my grandparents are in that segment, chatting with the priest - I was born in that village -- Ebental is my mother's village and her parents, grandfather, uncle, and two sisters are on that segment.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:08:47 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am enjoying the film very much..I will look for your family. I am assuming the background music is Gottscheer music.
- spider-wg024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:12:06 (GMT)
Ridy :
Yes it is - they're old Gottscheer songs which we all know.
Singing was an important activity in Gottschee -- and it certainly was in our family. . . .

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:14:35 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening.
- spider-we072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:14:44 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Hello everyone.


- pool-207-205-221-128.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:15:06 (GMT)
Ridy :
Hi Jim!
Hear you had a heatwave today! Did you get to sit outside at all?

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:15:27 (GMT)
Ridy :
Hi Erika!
Glad you dropped in again!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:15:51 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I wish I understood some of the words.
- spider-wg024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:15:55 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Jim: Thanks again for the info you sent. I looked through some of it briefly, it's been a crazy week. some of it is incomplete, I am checking with my dad to fill in some missing people starting with a sister of my grandfather all the way down to my generation. When I get it all together would you like me to send it to yo?
- pool-207-205-221-128.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:18:47 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Ridy: I will look for you rfamily the next time I see the video. My parents have a copy.
- pool-207-205-221-128.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:19:38 (GMT)
Ridy :
Mary - do you understand german? I do have translations from Gottscheerisch into german which I could send you
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:19:58 (GMT)
Ridy :
Erika -- just think how old that video is -- it was filmed
a couple of months after I was born!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:20:51 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy I am not having too much trouble reading the church records, but can not do much more than that. I have a German friend tho who could help me.
- spider-wg024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:21:13 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Mary: I believe there is an english version of the video. We gave my Father the Gottscheerisch , I'm considering buying the english version for myself.
- pool-207-205-221-128.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:22:13 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have the English version, it is just the music I dont understand.
- spider-wg024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:24:26 (GMT)
Ridy :
Mary - I'll get my husband to make a copy tomorrow and send it off to you!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:24:30 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy, thank you very much!
- spider-wg024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:25:56 (GMT)
Ridy :
I'm sure the songs are the same in both versions. I have the english version as well, because my children wouldn't be able to follow the german version.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:26:03 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Ridy, just short of a heat wave but my daughter relaxed outside with a blanket and watched the ducks on the pond.

Erika, I would appreciate any additions that you could give me to make the information more complete.

- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:27:36 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Watching my Dad's video there were some things I understood, phrases my Grandparents used often, but that wasn't much.
- pool-207-205-221-128.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:29:12 (GMT)
Ridy :
Thank goodness they were ducks, and not Canada Geese!
We got up to 10C, but it was overcast most of the day so it didn't seems as inviting as when the sun is shining.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:29:31 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I guess what is exciting for me is, a few months ago I didnt not even know Gottschee existed, and I am learning so much about it.
- spider-wg024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:31:12 (GMT)
Ridy :
I really wish there was a way to show it to the older generation of Gottscheers who don't have VCRs.....Some of them are up in the 80s and 90s and it would be so wonderful if they could see it. I'm thinking of a distant relative of mine in Ridgewood in particular -- I think the Gottscheer Clubs should make an effort to show it to all their members.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:32:34 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
That would be good if they would do that. Most clubs have access to VCR's
- spider-wg024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:34:04 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Is being Gottscheerisch catching? It seems so many people including myself have only recently discovered our heritage. I have to go there but I think I would be trapsing through deep forests to see where most of my "hometowns" are.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:34:32 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim, I would really love to go there some day also. I think Bistrica is still there, but some of the others are gone where my family came from.
- spider-wg024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:37:28 (GMT)
Ridy :
I'm still waiting for my children to discover that they're part Gottscheerisch -- they've been saturated in their Welsh/British heritage. . . .but it took me years before I became interested, and I was born there. So I'm not complaining too loudly. . . .
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:38:38 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Welsh, smelsch. Oh well, they are young and foolish.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:42:17 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
We finally made it on the Internet and the Gottscheer Chat. Ed's ancestors are from Rotenstein and Komutzen. Hello to all our good Gottscheer friends!
- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:42:59 (GMT)
jim heimann:
I think I will try to visit in three years when Amanda goes off to college. Two weeks should do ---- one in northern Italy and the other in Slovenia. I will probably look in on the wineries just for the heck of it.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:43:50 (GMT)
Ridy :
Gruess Euch Gott, Ed and Mary Krocker!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:43:57 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Hello, Ed and Mary. Are you the proud parents of Teri?
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:44:33 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Hi Everyone!
- tc20modem252.tusco.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:44:45 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Gueten ubend olle !
- 1Cust112.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:45:43 (GMT)
Ridy :
Sounds like a wonderful trip to look forward to, Jim! As long as you don't forget that you have to come to Toronto for the Treffen this September.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:45:48 (GMT)
Ridy :
Hi Teri and Franz!
Looks like we're having a good evening! Where's Holly?

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:47:03 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good evening you all.

- 1Cust112.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:47:10 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
It was a beautiful day here in Ohio, maybe Holly had some outdoor plans.
- tc20modem252.tusco.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:48:13 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Gueten ubend to you as well, Franz. Hello, Teri.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:48:31 (GMT)
Ridy :
And where has Joe Hogler been? Probably flying around up there in the stratosphere somewhere!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:50:26 (GMT)
Ridy :
Teri - are you working on any interesting stories?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:50:59 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
To Jim Heimann: Yes we are the proud parents of Teri - and also of Cindy, Doug, Jim, Joe and Scott! We also have nine grandchildren.
- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:51:49 (GMT)
Joe Krocker:
Hi, I see you made it on the Chat!
- mod9.new-philly.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:52:55 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Jim, I didn,t have a chance to get a scanner as of now in order to mail you the photo of Komutzen. I am working on it in order for you to see what Komutzen looked like as you wander thru the wilderness.

- 1Cust112.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:53:36 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Yes, I missed the chat last weekend because I was working on a story about some local couple who survived a tornado in Oklahoma. Unfortunately the husband still has a large hole in his lower back as a "souvenier" He was also in the hospital for about 9 weeks. They hid out in a pipe under a highway. It was so interesting. Mom is a writer and had also done this story a few years earlier for another paper...I'm following in her footsteps for sure!
- tc20modem252.tusco.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:54:22 (GMT)
Ridy :
That's wonderful! Two writers in one family! Congratulations!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:55:37 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Hi Joe!
- tc20modem252.tusco.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:55:38 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Krockers all over the place. I would be astounded if Eric showed up. Has he made it to the computer age yet. Tell him I said hello.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:56:44 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Actually there are three, my sister Cindy writes also for the local paper and her son Matt writes for his high school paper (that makes four!)
- tc20modem252.tusco.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:57:07 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Just got back on. I can see I've missed a lot. Hello again.
- pool-207-205-221-128.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:58:01 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello Franz! Ed has many Mausser ancestors from Komutzen. At the Treffen in Cleveland last September we met Adolph Mausser of Ridgewood, N.Y., who is Ed's second cousin. Our surname was spelled Kraker originally.
- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 02:58:58 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have a question...Have any of you considering changing the spelling of your names so it was like it was originally??
- spider-wg024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:01:52 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ed and Mary, there must have been as many Krakers as there were Maussers. I think Adolf Mausser is from Unterwarmberg.
- 1Cust112.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:02:47 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Ed and Franz,
you are fourth cousins, fourth cousins once removed, fifth cousins, fifth cousins once removed, sixth cousins, sixth cousins once removed and seventh cousins (but not once removed -- they must have goofed up on that one).

- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:06:38 (GMT)
Teri Krocker Stein:
Good night all! I'm signing off, have to go to work tomorrow. Mom and Dad- Glad to see you on the chat!
- tc20modem252.tusco.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:07:00 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Good night, Teri.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:07:30 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Franz: Ed says he believes Adolph was from Unterwarmberg, but his wife, Maria Kraker Mausser, was from Komutzen. Jim: We met Eric and Peg Kraker in Akron two weeks ago for dinner and to visit. Had a great time!
- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:08:05 (GMT)
Ridy :
I've considered changing my name back to Ridi -
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:08:14 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
What about any of the last names....there are so many different spellings of the same names.
- spider-wg024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:09:51 (GMT)
Erika Stalzer White:
Jim, I am amazed at how quickly you can pull this up.

I have to sign off now, I have to get to work early tomorrow. Hope everyone has a great week.

- pool-207-205-221-128.pbgh.grid.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:10:59 (GMT)
Ridy :
G'nite Teri and Erika!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:11:50 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good, another distant cousin. Hi ed-cousin.

- 1Cust50.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:15:07 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Ed, I have two Adolf Mausser from UWG. One was born in 1925 and the other, 1932. Do you have his birth year? Do you have any dates for his wife? She must be in the file somewhere.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:15:19 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Erika, the hard part is inputting the information. The easy part is having Family Tree Maker put it together. Good night.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:16:05 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Franz, you may be related to most of the people on board tonight.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:16:39 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good Night everyone, have to run to the airport picking up my son from skiing in Co. See you all in two weeks , I will be skiing too in BIG SKY Montana.
- 1Cust50.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:18:44 (GMT)
Joe Krocker:
I believe my parents, Ed & Mary, will want Family tree Maker. Can you export info. from it?
- mod9.new-philly.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:19:28 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, we have to plan a re-union, or shall we say to get to know each other.

- 1Cust50.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:20:49 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
Servus! Anyone still around?
- nyf-ny49-17.ix.netcom.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:21:44 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Jim: I believe Adolph was born in about 1925 and Maria about 1936. Adolph's grandmother, Agnes Kraker, was a sister to Ed's grandmother, Helena Kraker. We really enjoyed meeting Adolph and Maria.
- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:22:05 (GMT)
Ridy :
Servus Ton
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:22:17 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
Hi Ridy. How you been?
- nyf-ny49-17.ix.netcom.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:22:50 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Franz, have fun. Enjoy the ski vacation.

Ed, yes--- you can export and import information with the program as well as print up reports and charts.

Ridi, are you still here? I am looking for the spring flowers but only see the tops of my daffodils just peeking up from the soil.

- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:23:43 (GMT)
jim heimann:
SERVUS ????? Is that Gottscheerish?
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:24:25 (GMT)
Ridy :
Jim - my daffodils are up too!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:26:34 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Ridy, not blooming but trying to come up. Are yours blooming in the not so cold north?
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:27:25 (GMT)
Ridy :
Servus is Austrian for "Hi" - latin for something like
"I am your servant"

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:27:48 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Ed and Mary---- Adolf from UWG #25 and Maria from Komutzen#3?????
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:28:11 (GMT)
Ridy :
No - not blooming! About 3" up
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:28:44 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
Servus is an austrian greeting.. used for hellos and goodbyes.
- nyf-ny49-17.ix.netcom.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:28:44 (GMT)
jim heimann:
It looks latin by form.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:31:18 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Are there other latin forms used commonly?
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:31:51 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Jim: Info on Maussers is correct, as far as we know. They are both in the Resettlement Records book. At the Treffen, Adolph and Maria, Eric and Peg Kraker and the two of us held a "mini-Kraker reunion!"
- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:35:25 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Thanks for the information. I am related separately to both Adolf and Maria but not nearly as closely as you and Adolf. Still, it is nice to meet cousins -- close or far.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:37:33 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Time for my beauty sleep ( I need it very badly). Have a good week.
- spider-we084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:41:26 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Good night everyone.
- spider-wg024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:41:52 (GMT)
Ridy :
Just got back in time to say Gute Nacht
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:42:09 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Good night everyone! Thanks to our son, Joe, we had a great time on the Gottscheer Chat and will join in again often.
- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, March 06, 2000 at 03:44:29 (GMT)
heinrich oswald büchel:
wer kannte meine eltern, mathias und maria oswald aus büchel ? setzt euch mit mir in verbindung. meine e-mail addr:walter.schiestl@chello.at
freue mich schon auf eine antwort -liebe grüsse aus innsbruck/tirol/österreich



- vienna03.teleweb.at - Wednesday, March 08, 2000 at 16:30:13 (GMT)
Christian Samide:
Könnt ihr mir bitte mehr über meinen Familiennamen sagen (Herkunft, Bedeutung...) schöne grüße an euch alle!
Nachrichten bitte an christian.samide@gmx.at
Schöne Grüße aus Amstetten/Niederösterreich

- cache1.utanet.at - Sunday, March 12, 2000 at 00:42:13 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Everyone interested in the Ebental area I have a website now that has all of the marriages and births of Ebental. Much better than what I had before. Check it out at the follow URL.

http://www.geocities.com/gottscheer/ebentalparish/index.htm

- proxy-312.public.rwc.webtv.net - Sunday, March 12, 2000 at 04:28:00 (GMT)
Heinz Oswald:
Servus ist nicht gottscheerisch, kommt aus dem lateinischen und wird her genommen als "ich bin dein Diener"!
- proxy.tirol.chello.at - Sunday, March 12, 2000 at 16:05:16 (GMT)
Ridy:
Servus Heinz!
translation of previous message:
Servus is not gottscheerisch - comes from latin and is taken to mean: I am your servant. . . .
stimmt's? I think that's what we had said before.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Sunday, March 12, 2000 at 20:42:43 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Ridy,
How are you doing? Have you checked the Ebental Parish Register site I built.

- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:06:01 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Looks pretty quiet on the chat board tonight. I'll come back a little later.
- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:08:24 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi John-
Yes - thanks for sending it along to me. I've been browsing around on it -- There's a lot new for me on it - families I didn't know before. I've been busy without accomplishing anything, really. Christopher was in town, but we only saw him briefly when he arrived, and now he's on his way back to London again.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:13:03 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Is he living in London? What is he doing now?
- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:15:03 (GMT)
Ridy:
Yes - his home base is London, but mostly he travels; Dublin tomorrow, then Germany and Denmark this coming week.
I expect to get a call one of these days, asking me where he is because he won't remember.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:17:29 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
I've made a site with me and my wifes genealogy. You might be interested because there is stuff on it that isn't on the Ebental site. This one is at

http://www.geocities.com/gottscheer/index.htm

- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:17:36 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:













We've waited all week for another chance to get on the Gottcheer Chat. Last week was the first for us and we enjoyed it. We saw a message about changing names to the original from Mary Thurman. We've thought about going back tto the original "Kraker" spelling, but since it's been spelled "Krocker" here for about 70 years, we thought it would be almost impossible to do. Has anyone else attempted to change back to original spellings?



- mod15.new-philly.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:18:03 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
How's the weather there? We are having a lot of cloudy and wet stuff. We had about a foot of wet snow a couple of days ago. Our flowers are starting to bloom here. I just hope we don't get any real cold weather or the flowers will bite the dust.
- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:19:50 (GMT)
Ridy:
Don't know what the laws are in the States about changing names, but here in Canada it's very simple, as long as you're not doing it for criminal purposes.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:19:52 (GMT)
Ridy:
We had the most beautiful spring-like weather, sunny and mild, and then today we woke up to several inches of snow.
Brilliant sunshine, but snow. It was a beautiful, but most unwelcome sight! It did get warm enough to melt most of it during the day, so there's hope

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:21:41 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Ed and Mary,
That is an interesting idea. If I went to the old spelling it would be Herbist.

- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:21:44 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
I don't think it is very hard in the United States, but what a pain if you have all kinds of legal papers to change it on.
- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:23:48 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, everybody. Hope you all had a good week. A little rain falling here in KCMO. St. Louis and there abouts got about 5-7 inches of snow. We lucked. out. Eddie, are you on tonight?
- KSCYB110-20.splitrock.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:23:54 (GMT)
Ridy:
That's interesting, John. I just realized Herbist is closer to the Gottscheer spelling for Herbst - which is the German for Fall. The Gottscheer spelling for fall is actually Herbischt, I think.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:24:35 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Margaret,
Sounds like it has been a little wet down in KC to. Did you get any of the blizzard stuff like they got in Nebraska and Iowa?

- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:25:45 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
I'm not sure why they changed from Herbist to Herbst. I think in Germany Herbst is pronounced Herpist. I've also seen it spelle Horbist.
- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:28:22 (GMT)
Ridy:
John - do you know if anyone is concentrating on records from Schalkendorf?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:28:59 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
John: No blizzards, just gray and dreary today. Rain-which we need. Now south MO and St. Louis, that's another situation weatherwise.
- KSCYB110-20.splitrock.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:29:19 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Do any of you know what the name "Kraker" means? We've heard the meanings of some other names, but haven't been able to determine the origin of "Kraker."

- mod15.new-philly.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:31:33 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Don't know for sure Ridy. It seems like someone is, but really don't remember. It seems on my Ziegelfest line that I may have some ancestors there, but if I remember they are far enough back that I did the research in Gottschee Parish.
- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:33:09 (GMT)
Ridy:
No - Herpist would not be the German pronunciation - German is Herbst. A lot of the names are spelled in different ways because few people knew how to write in the old days and even fewer knew how to spell correctly. That goes for both sides of the Atlantic. One of our football coaches here is called "O'Billovich" (I kid you not!) because that's what the Immigration official put down for his father when he came to Canada. Last time we checked, there were no Irish Slovenians!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:33:26 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi everyone!
- slip-166-72-189-224.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:36:02 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
I'm not sure what Kraker. Maybe Ridy would know. I'm not really into linguistics and definitions of the names. I was just looking through my word list and don't find your name on it.
- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:37:19 (GMT)
Ridy:
Don't know what Kraker means -- I've been trying to find out what Hoegler means - and that's been spelled all sorts of ways too. .
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:37:45 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Do you think then that Herpist would be Gottscheerisch?
- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:39:26 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:

Gute Nacht. Auf Wiedersehen

- KSCYB110-20.splitrock.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:39:47 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
I really don't know much about either language. I just learned how to decipher it.
- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:40:29 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Godd night Margie.
- slip-166-72-189-224.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:41:39 (GMT)
Ridy:
John - not that particular spelling
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:41:48 (GMT)
:
Goodnight Margaret.
- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:42:18 (GMT)
Ridy:
So - Eduard - what's it doing in Vermont? Snow?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:42:27 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
It seems my Grandfather kind of pronounced it that way. He has been dead for 27 years so I could have forgotten.
- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:43:29 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Actually, I live in NH. We got about 8-10 inches last night. We were expecting flurries. What a mess. My family and I were in Maine shopping when then the storm hit. It took us over two hours to get home.
- slip-166-72-189-224.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:44:23 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy - A friend of ours told us about her father, Gabriel Starineiri, coming to U.S. The immigration official asked: "How would you like to be Smith?" He refused and insisted on being called Starineiri "because that's my name."
- mod15.new-philly.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:46:20 (GMT)
Ridy:
Yes - I remember. I used to visit a friend in Hanover, and we'd make side trips to Vermont, so the two somehow merge in my mind. I think you said you're related to Martha Tiefenbacher -- she has a sister here in Toronto and is coming to the Gottscheer Treffen in September all the way from Austria!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:46:36 (GMT)
Ridy:
Ed and Mary -- that is so true! My husband is Welsh, and his name is Skyrme -- actually it's an old French name -- but it's been suggested to him that Sky would be better!
It was hilarious and annoying one time when I tried to tell somebody how to pronounce it - that it rhymes with 'worm' and the idiot went out into the waiting room and told the receptionist that probably somebody told me to say that when I got off the boat (I don't speak with an accent) and my husband was sitting right there! He was not amused....

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:50:07 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:

- slip-166-72-189-224.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:50:40 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Ridy, yes you're correct. Its been about 12 years since I last seen Martha. My wife and I are trying work out plans to go to the Treffen.
- slip-166-72-189-224.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:53:16 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Ridy, Kraker I believe is derived from the noun Kracke which means jade, or nag.
- slip-166-72-189-224.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:54:38 (GMT)
Ridy:
Well - now you have another reason for trying to get to Toronto, Ed!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:54:42 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Is anyone going to Vancouver for the GHGA meeting? I won't be going. My 25th Class Reunion is that weekend.
- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:55:55 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Yes! Its been about 23+ years since I seen Martha's sister, Hanolore ( and family)
- slip-166-72-189-224.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:56:48 (GMT)
Ridy:
Ed - you mean as in 'alte Kracke'? I thought it was close to loud quarreling, or nagging
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:58:03 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Yes you are correct. I just gave the literal meaning.
- slip-166-72-189-224.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 02:58:51 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
I must go now, Good night everyone!
- slip-166-72-189-224.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 03:01:05 (GMT)
Ridy:
So what does Stalzer mean?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 03:01:29 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good night, everyone - didn't realize how late it is!
Have a good week.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 03:02:25 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Oh boy! We're sorry we asked what "Kraker" meant. We were hoping it meant something like "intelligent and witty!"
- mod15.new-philly.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 03:03:07 (GMT)
Ridy:
Ed and Mary - I think you should ask for a second opinion!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 03:04:02 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Gooodnight!
- proxy-686.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, March 13, 2000 at 03:06:47 (GMT)
Urska Stimec:
Hello everyone,
after a long time I can send you love and greetings from your HEIMAT - GOTTSCHEE... It is quite cold here although we don t have any snow any more. The spring is coming, it is in the air...

- 212.30.94.113 - Sunday, March 19, 2000 at 17:59:14 (GMT)
Urska Stimec:
I am sorry, that you meet so late in the evening / night - but I have to work tomorrow, so - GUTE NACHT, but first thing tomorrow after work, I will be here, just to read what were you talking about...
- 212.30.94.113 - Sunday, March 19, 2000 at 18:01:46 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Dear Urska,
This is only our third time on the Gottscheer Chat and it is good to hear from a resident of Gottschee. It was only about three years ago that Ed learned his grandparents came from Gottschee. Originally, they spelled their name Kraker. Getting acquainted with other Gottscheers has been a fun and interesting experience for us.

- mod36.new-philly.net - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:11:18 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi everyone!
- slip-166-72-189-45.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:19:07 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Ed and Mary!
It would be nice if we could have our chat room meetings when it was possible for the Europeans to participate. With the 6-hour time difference, it's really not feasible.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:19:45 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello everyone
- spider-tr034.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:22:33 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Eduard!
Are you freezing in your neck of the woods? We're just above freezing, but rain, and it's not at all what you would call friendly weather.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:23:43 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Ridy yes! it is in the 20's. we also had about 8 in of snow on friday. just when i thought spring was here.
- slip-166-72-189-45.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:25:28 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Ed - at this time of year, I'll take the rain over the snow.
I guess those 60+ temperatures we had a short while ago really gave us some false hope!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:27:05 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Mary!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:27:41 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
we have had both rain and snow here but was beauitful today
- spider-tr034.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:31:31 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Ridy- yes it did. I was playing in my yard when I returned from FL (business). I put up bird feeders and started to plot my flower gardensThen the snow hit again and again! New England weather takes alot to get used to!
- slip-166-72-189-45.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:31:41 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Margie- are on tonight?
- slip-166-72-189-45.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:32:09 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
If I remember correctly - and there are always those who will be happy to correct me if I'm wrong (my sisters!) in Gottschee you were supposed to have the seeds sown for certain crops by St. Joseph's Day - which is today - or you were considered very lazy. But I understand it hasn't been very warm there so far this year either.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:35:39 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I guess I am very lazy!!!! I have not done a thing outside yet. lol
- spider-tr034.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:38:34 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Join the Club, Mary! In another month or so I'll start thinking about it seriously, but we're told that there's a danger of frost in this area until about the 25th of May -- so that's still more than 2 months off!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:41:08 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello everyone!
We anxiously awaited the Gottscheer Chat again this week. Ed's Uncle Louie Krocker always planted his lettuce seeds and a couple of other varieties on St. Patrick's Day! We live in east central Ohio and our weather is erratic right now.
To Urska: If you would like to correspond with us, our e-mail address is ekrock@clover.net. We'd also be interested in hearing from other Krakers.

- mod36.new-philly.net - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:46:56 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ed and Mary: I only found out about 8 months ago my great grandparents came from Gottschee, last name of Peschel/
- spider-tr034.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:51:40 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Well I have cut it short tonight. Goodnight everyone!
- slip-166-72-189-45.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:55:02 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
To Mary Thurman:
Hope you have as much fun being Gottscheer as we have. Actually Ed is the Gottscheer and Mary is the Gottscheer "by association" as our daughter put it. We have attended a GHGA business meeting in Hawley, Pa., and the 1999 Treffen in Cleveland. We had a great time at both events. The Gottscheers are a very close-knit bunch!

- mod36.new-philly.net - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:58:41 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Mary - did the topic never come up before? Most of us just say we're from Austria and let it go at that, if the question comes up, because so few people know about Gottschee. Unless somebody is really interested, and then we go into details. My children know where I was born, but they've never expressed any desire to visit there.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 02:59:01 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
G'nite Ed
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 03:00:01 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Absolutely no one in the Peschel family knew anything, except maybe somewhere in Austria. No one cared to ask I guess, when they was still someone alive who could tell them.
- spider-tr034.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 03:00:52 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Well, you're finding out now -- and you'll meet a lot of us fellow Gottscheers at the Treffen in Toronto in September!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 03:07:20 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
.To Ridy:
Ed and his relatives knew his grandparents were from Austria and originally spelled their name Kraker, but nothing else. An aunt did recall that the grandparents talked about a place called Red Stone (Rotenstein) "and that's all I know." After checking at our county genealogical library, we learned that names of Ed's great-grandparents, which until then none of the relatives seemed to know. Then our oldest daughter ran across someone researching Krakers on the Internet. The rest, as they say, is history!

- mod36.new-philly.net - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 03:07:35 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Oh I wish I could come to that, but do not know yet.
- spider-tr034.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 03:08:04 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
It will never cease to amaze what we can learn on the Internet! And I think all the interest in genealogy is really wonderful. I've found relatives I never knew existed - or more correctly, they've found me. I love it!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 03:12:31 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have found lots of family and information on the internet. As a matter of fact I would not of found out where the Peschels were from any other way.
- spider-tr034.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 03:15:31 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gute Nacht, everybody - it's been fun as usual.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 03:17:58 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Good night, everyone! Hope to chat with you again soon.
- mod36.new-philly.net - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 03:20:50 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Good night everyone.
- spider-tr034.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 20, 2000 at 03:21:18 (GMT)
Doug Krocker:
Hello Mom and Dad, (Mary and Ed) I will stop and get the old water heater and visit also, been out wiring lights all week at the sawmill.Hello to all on the Gottscheer chat.
- mod16.new-philly.net - Friday, March 24, 2000 at 04:01:54 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Gang, I was not here the last few sundays, tried to catch up and see who was on Plauderzimmer. I subscibed to MSN, Mr gates Company. I am having a hack of a time to get connected and stay connected. I know he has a problem with our Justice Department, but why take it out on us? Anyone else using MSN?
- 1Cust251.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 01:23:59 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Gang, I was not here the last few sundays, tried to catch up and see who was on Plauderzimmer. I subscibed to MSN, Mr. Gate,s Company. I am having a hack of a time to get connected and stay connected. I know he has a problem with our Justice Department, but why take it out on us? Anyone else using MSN?
- 1Cust251.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 01:27:18 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Everyone. Couldn't log on last Sunday. Sorry. My cousins (all Jonkes) are planning to go to Gottschee in Sept. They are excited. I am excited to hear from them when they return. Wish I were going.
- KSCYB210-14.splitrock.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 01:48:29 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie,
Are you on tonight? Thanks for the info. you sent me about congress, the internet, and mail service.

- KSCYB210-14.splitrock.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 01:50:51 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello everyone.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 01:56:38 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Do any of you have any Smerkers in your family lines?

- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 01:57:28 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Mary. Am going to jump back and forth from plauderzimmer to the Academy Awards. Will try to keep up with both.
- KSCYB210-14.splitrock.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 01:58:08 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
oh yes, they are one tonite..I am not much into movies lately I guess.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 01:59:00 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
What happened?? Everything disappeared from my screen?? Where are all the messages I sent??
- KSCYB102-44.splitrock.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:04:41 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi everybody,
I just got on. The service is slow tonight. I hope I don't get kicked off

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:04:49 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Holly. I'm having some trouble tonight. We had a bad storm in KCMO athis afternoon. Maybe that messed things up??
- KSCYB102-44.splitrock.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:06:15 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well, I had a very hard time getting on and we are Not having a storm.
- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:07:04 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Margaret, I hope you wont brake a leg while you are jumping, I could happen , you know.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:07:39 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Saw the message about the Jonke cousins going to the treffen. Hope you are?
- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:07:46 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Margaret, I hope you wont brake a leg while you are jumping, I could happen , you know.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:08:49 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Franz,
Good joke, I had to look back at the message, to see what you meant. One hand is on the TV controls, one on the chat message button.

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:09:38 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Holly,
We are Teri Stein's parents and know you have communicated often. Sorry we missed you at the Treffen at Cleveland. Teri said you were there. We did get to meet her friend from Kitchener and all her family.

- mod6.new-philly.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:12:34 (GMT)
Franz:
Holly, be careful, Bill ------ also has his hands on the ----control. Look what happened to him.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:13:00 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Ed and Mary,
I feel like I know you. Yes, We had a great time but were sorry we missed you. It was great to see all those names tags with names I work with on my research.

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:14:30 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Are you going to the Canada Treffen?
- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:14:50 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hey Franz,

Bill's hand were on the "out of control"

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:15:59 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Holly,
My 3 cousins are going to Gottschee (not the treffen). They have wanted to go back to their roots for some time. My cousin Pete Yonke is the family tree writer. He has to much information it's really scary. Now he's looking in the Mormon records.

- KSCYB102-44.splitrock.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:16:24 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh Margaret,
Wait till he finds all those record! My Mother in law says "you know more about my family than I do"

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:17:56 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello! I've given up on the Academy Awards -- it's a strange world out there - as my mother used to say: I'm too old for that now. . .
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:18:21 (GMT)
Franz:
Margaret, just click your heels.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:19:01 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Holly,
Pete spends more time and money on the family tree than anyone I ever saw. It's just fabulous, the stuff he discovers.

- KSCYB102-44.splitrock.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:19:18 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Ridy,

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:20:12 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz,
I have some cousins whose mother's last name was Mausser. Could they be relatives of yours? I think they spelled Mausser??

- KSCYB102-44.splitrock.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:20:38 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi everyone!

- slip129-37-94-25.mi.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:20:52 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Holly,
Yes, as of now, we plan to go to the Treffen at Toronto. We were told there may be room on the bus with the Cleveland Gottscheers. We had so much fun at Cleveland and met Ed's cousin and his wife, Adolph and Marie Mausser of Ridgewood, N.Y.
Also we say hello! to Cousin Franz Mausser! How was the skiing trip?

- mod6.new-philly.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:20:55 (GMT)
Franz:
Who wants to watch Hollywood when we are in the plauderzimmer? Hollywood yack!!!
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:21:36 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie Stalzer,
Glad you logged on. Just telling everyone about Pete"s up coming trip to Gottschee in Sept. How's the family??

- KSCYB102-44.splitrock.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:22:17 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Margaret,
I must be a kindred spirit with him. It is my full time hobby, besides babysitting my grandson. I have helped about 6 people this week alone. I don't charge, I just ask that they join the Gottschee Society.

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:22:26 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello again everyone. I am on my new lpatop computer tonite. what an experience.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:23:31 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Margie The family is great. My parents are going to europe this year and they plan to visit Gottschee.
- slip129-37-94-25.mi.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:23:33 (GMT)
Franz:
Margaret, every Mausser seems to be a relative of mine. Just ask Jim. By the way where is Jim hiding?
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:23:57 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
My husband thinks I spend way too much time on genealopy also. I got the laptop so I could take it with me doing research.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:24:39 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Franz,
Jim is probably watching the Awards!

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:24:55 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hello Holly.
- slip129-37-94-25.mi.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:25:35 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
That is what I need. A laptop. As it is I have to copy the records by hand, then enter it into the computer. I have sooo many records that need to be entered in, don't know if I will ever finish@!

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:26:29 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Eduard,
How's everything?

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:27:10 (GMT)
Franz:
Holly, what Awards?
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:27:43 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Great!
- slip129-37-94-25.mi.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:27:56 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly that is what I have been doing, and now I can put them right in the computer. I am anxious to try, just got it yesterday.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:28:04 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Franz,
hey, the Academy Award!

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:29:05 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
Please let me know how you like it. I keep looking at them.

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:30:09 (GMT)
Franz:
Mary, is the Arkansas River set for whitewater rafting? I am ready.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:30:20 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
this one is a Toshiba and so far I really like, and I thought it was a resonable price too.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:30:52 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must log off. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesundt.
- KSCYB102-44.splitrock.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:31:18 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Ridy,
I was surprised to find out that Nettie Sider was your cousin. She was a friend of Sophie Nadler Theisinger,my father's first cousin,who passed away last year. Nettie
contacted me last year to see if I was related to Sophie,
and we've shared many talks on the net. She and Rich are
fine people. I knew she was a Hoegler but didn't know you were related. Incidentally,John Herbst and I are 4th half cousins,both being decended from different wives of Mathias
Ziegelfest of Ort. John has a fabulous web site.

- dialup-209.246.78.20.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:31:40 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Franz...I don't think anyone is in the water yet, but it won't be long. Am anxious to meet you when you do come.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:31:43 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
what are you working on? I just ordered some more Tschermoschnitz films.

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:31:54 (GMT)
Franz:
Margaret, what a spoiler. Forget the Awards.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:32:30 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Good night Margaret, sorry you have to leave so soon.
- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:33:16 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello John!
Yes - Nettie and I are first cousins... I'm hoping they'll
come for the Gottscheer Treffen up here in Toronto in September - I think we'll have a mini Hoegler Reunion at the same time.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:33:57 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
do you live in Arkansas?

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:34:19 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly, I am still on all the records for Bistriz. Have the Peschels back to the late 1700's now, and am working on all the other branches of the family also at the same time.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:34:20 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Goodnight everyone!
- slip129-37-94-25.mi.us.prserv.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:34:30 (GMT)
Franz:
Margaret, schlaf suess und traume von sauren gurken.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:34:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Good night Eduard
- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:35:08 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
No I live in Canon City Co We have the Arkansas river running thru town and it is a big rafting river
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:35:14 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
I will have to keep that in mind. I can't think of anyone at the moment who needs it.

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:36:50 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:

Franz,
Please translate. I didn't understand. Thanks

- KSCYB102-44.splitrock.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:37:37 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz - I thought that was: und traeume suess von sauren Gurken!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:37:48 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Mary Thurman _ How did you discover your Gottscheer heritage? We know it was only a few months ago that you learned of it. Seems as though you have accomplished a lot in a short time.
- mod6.new-philly.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:37:55 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have not had any contacts from my name on the surname page, so I guess I am the only one interested in Bistriz right now
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:37:59 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
hmm,
must be something about a sour pickle!

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:38:14 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ed and Mary I got the names of my grandmothers baptismal sponsors and found out that they were all Gottscheers from a shirttail relative who had done lots of research on his family.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:39:45 (GMT)
Franz:
Margaret, it means sleep sweet and dream of sour pickles. An Austrian good night wish.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:40:11 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
You're right, Holly - it's dream sweetly of sour pickles
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:40:48 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
yes I have been reading microfilm for about 6 months and have learned a lot about my family and about Gottschee
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:41:09 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz,
Thank you so much. I guess I never heard the expression before. Gute Nacht.

- KSCYB102-44.splitrock.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:41:26 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Ridy,
I'd love to make the Treffen in Toronto.I'm just not sure my wife would agree. She doesn't share my enthusiasm for my roots or hers for that matter. Nettie and Rich have children on Long Island and were very good friends with a woman on Long Island who worked with my late mother and who
has the same last name as I have. It's a small world and the net makes it smaller.

- dialup-209.246.78.20.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:42:43 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, how is the Grazer Maedel tonight?
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:42:55 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
It goes along with the good luck finding the sour pickle on the Christmas tree. Wonder how that originated?
- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:43:27 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes I agree..the net makes it a small world..It would of taken me years to discover my grandmother was Gottscheer with out it.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:44:00 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
The Grazer Maedel is tired as usual, Franz. My son-in-law
and daughter expressed the desire to come for dinner and pig out today! - so I cooked all day, and they came, and they ate, and what they couldn't eat, they took along. Then I cleaned up. and now the phone keeps ringing. I think I liked it better when my computer was hooked up to the phone line - that way I had some peace and quiet when I was in the Plauderzimmer!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:46:14 (GMT)
Franz:
So, who lost an Oskar?
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:46:18 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
John - there's a lot more to do and see in Toronto than just the Treffen! Check out Toronto.com (my niece works there) and it will give you all sorts of ideas of what to do in Toronto. Maybe you can sell your wife on a visit to the City.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:48:09 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, you did not tell me that you were cooking tonight. I was very hungry, and still am.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:49:12 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
So what does Grazer Maedel mean??
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:49:19 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hey - Franz - I'm a Gottscheer Mama! So I cook! My kids insist that Gottscheer mothers are worse than Jewish mothers when it comes to stuffing their kids with food!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:51:08 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well gang,
Its been fun but I have some genealogy to do before bedtime and it is getting late. Hope to see you next week.

- SUITE80.suite224.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:51:11 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Good night Holly
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:52:42 (GMT)
Franz:
Mary, Graz is as a wonderful city in Austria. As I found out Ridy and I lived there at the same time. Maedel is an Austrian as well as Gottscheer expression for Girl.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:52:56 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Graz is the name of the City in Austria where I lived for 3 years. Maedel means girl. = Girl from Graz. Everybody wants to be a Grazer Maedel - because they are said (by themselves, of course) to be the most beautiful girls in the world. . . .
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:53:15 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ok I see. thanks
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:53:54 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
G'nite Holly!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:53:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, everyone. I know several have already signed off. Anyone left?

- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:54:55 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Jim!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:55:16 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
lolol I love these stories and sayings. I feel like I missed out on so much because I don't know these things. My Gottscheer grandmother died when I was 9 years old.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:55:34 (GMT)
Franz:
Mary, I think we will make a Gottscheer Girl out of you yet.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:55:52 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Jim
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:56:08 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Franz I would like nothing better.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:57:09 (GMT)
Franz:
Hey, Jim. I asked about 45 minutes ago if anyone knows your hideout.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:57:28 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Mary - Can't you just see your grandmother smiling down on you from up above - enjoying the fact that you're keeping her memory alive by trying to find out about her homeland.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:57:31 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
What part of me that is not Gottschee is all German anyhow. lolol
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:57:45 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy...Yes I can and thank you...I had not thought about it like that before.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 02:58:20 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim have you across any one of the Smrekar line in your research?
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:01:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Franz. What hideout? I have just been amongst the missing. My body aches from working outside and lifting rocks of considerable size.
- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:01:55 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, close to what I had to do, lift logs. Had to cut a dead tree and clean up the mess.Nice to chat with my cousin again.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:05:15 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, very few. I have five. Michael who married Anna Nampolt. Margaretha with Jacob Lukeschitz. Jacob with Katherine. Maria abt.1879 Nesseltal#44 with Josef Stiene. Anna 4 8 1889 Kreschdorf,Semitsch with Martin Pureber.
- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:05:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am looking at a log in the stream that has firewood written all over it. I must be getting back to my Gottscheer roots ----- working with the soil, hauling rocks, and eyeing lumber.
- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:06:56 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am looking for a birth date of a Maria Smrekar who was born about 1783. Don't know what town, but have not found her in the Tschernembl recorde so far.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:07:09 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, how is your wife doing. I hope and wish her recovery is satisfactory.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:07:21 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
we worked outside in the yard today also. Must be spring...
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:08:15 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, yup those are the Gottscheers.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:09:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
My wife is doing well. She had the halo removed on Wednesday and she will be in a hard collar for another six weeks. Some of the breaks are healing while others need more time.
- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:11:52 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Glad to hear she is doing well.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:12:56 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, one suggestion. Put her into a Volvo.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:15:56 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Had a Volvo once. She didn't like it. We won't be buying an SUV. No more roll overs.
- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:16:56 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, my wife is driving a Volvo Cross Country. She loves it.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:18:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Maybe we will take a look at it. Ridy, did you rest those cooking fingers?
- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:20:08 (GMT)
Ridy:
next thing you guys will be talking about football!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:20:23 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, do you feel left out?. You may drive a Volvo also.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:21:38 (GMT)
Ridy:
I'm resting them now. . . but I'll have to do a lot of cooking ahead soon - we tend to get a lot of company from overseas, and the first arrives in two weeks -
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:22:36 (GMT)
Ridy:
No Franz - I don't drive anymore. My brother always called my driving style 'flying low' -- but I've crashed a few in my day. Although never my father's Volvo or Mercedes -
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:24:32 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, so you travel on Schusters Rappen.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:27:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, that is a low blow. I don't even like cars. Just a vehicle to get me from here to there. My favorite is my 1990 Accord. My wife keeps bugging me to get rid of it.
- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:27:55 (GMT)
Ridy:
Yup! But not happily. Of all the things I've had to give up because of old age, I miss the driving most of all.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:28:46 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, old age ????????????.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:30:09 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - console yourself. My husband drives a l986 (or '87?)
of some sort - can't really tell anymore - Pontiac, I think.
He's on very good terms with the mechanic!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:30:37 (GMT)
Ridy:
Some of us were born old, Franz. . .
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:31:13 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, Pontiac? I am shure his mechanic must love him.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:32:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ah, Ridy. Some parts may be old but the mind seems very young. Let's keep it this way.

- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:32:50 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
You are all very entertaining tonite....lol
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:33:44 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, well spoken. Like a gentleman.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:33:49 (GMT)
Ridy:
His mechanic's most frequent comment is: you sure you want me to fix this piece of c--p again?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:34:07 (GMT)
Franz:
Mary, this are Gottscheers.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:35:15 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
franz sounds like my family
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:35:54 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim! That was a nice thing to say today! Had a call from one of my cousins today who kept talking around in circles, and I suddenly realized she was talking about Alzheimer's
and she was asking me, in a round-about way, if I thought I might have the beginnings of it! My husband was killing himself laughing, and saying: see, I told you so!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:36:44 (GMT)
Franz:
Mary, what our and our parents generation had to go thru, you have to keep your humor or else.
- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:38:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ah, Ridy. Some parts may be old but the mind seems very young. Let's keep it this way.

- spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:38:41 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I think everyone needs a sense of humor or life is very dull.
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:39:38 (GMT)
Franz:
Well folks, I have to wish you all a good night and a good week. I have to go to bed

- 1Cust127.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:41:46 (GMT)
Ridy:
But now I must say Gute Nacht - still have a few e-mails to write and my eyes are falling shut. Have a good week, all of you, and thanks for a nice visit.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:42:00 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Good night everyone. It has been enjoyable
- spider-wd064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, March 27, 2000 at 03:43:39 (GMT)
Gabi:
I am very interested in your history. Please tell me something about it. Where do you live now ? I live in Germany. I wait for your answer.
- p3E9E6C0A.dip.t-dialin.net - Friday, March 31, 2000 at 19:32:16 (GMT)
Gabi:
I am very interested in your history. Please tell me something about it. Where do you live now ? I live in Germany. I wait for your answer.
- p3E9E6C0A.dip.t-dialin.net - Friday, March 31, 2000 at 19:33:50 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, everybody. Hope you all had a good week. Very nice in KCMO today. Supposed to be cold and rainy tomorrow. The latest letter from Gottscheer Heritage said they were looking for native-born Gottshceers to do an oral history. Am trying to get Marie Wolf, my near aunt, to agree to do it. Her mind if clear as a bell and she lived through WWII over there. What a resource she would be. SHe says she is not a good talker.
- KSCYB102-04.splitrock.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:05:43 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Is anybody out there? It's lonesome here.
- KSCYB102-04.splitrock.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:08:57 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Margaret,
Yes we are on tonight. We enjoy the Gottscheer Chat each week. In good old Ohio, the weather also is rainy and chilly. By Tuesday, the sun is supposed to shine!

- mod11.new-philly.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:12:00 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Eric Kraker of Cleveland, our friend and distant relative, is wondering if Christian Samide, who sometimes gets on the Chat, is a son of Franz Samide. If so, he thinks they are second cousins.
- mod11.new-philly.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:15:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Ed,Mary, & Margaret. Wie gehts?
- spider-wd042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:16:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Saturday was sehr schon (with umlaut). Sunday nicht so gut.

- spider-wd042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:18:17 (GMT)
:
Last week someone said to sleep well and dream of sour pickles. I meant to write that down, but I didn't. I wonder if someone could put that on the chat line (in Deutsch, of course) Thanks.
- KSCYB109-32.splitrock.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:20:58 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Guten Abend! Just reading the last couple of messages, I'm
smiling already!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:25:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The person who typed that is not on line right now but you could check the past chat room logs to find the spelling.
- spider-wd042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:25:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Oops ---- Ridy might be just the right person for pickles.
- spider-wd042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:26:03 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Thanks Jim. However, couldn't find it. Maybe next week. Must log off. Work to do. Will say ;Gute Nacht und alles Gute.
- KSCYB109-32.splitrock.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:28:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, have a good night and a good week.
- spider-wd042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:29:50 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
It's tra(e)ume su(e)ss von sauren Gurken
The 'e' in brackets are supposed to show you wher the Umlaut goes - wish I knew how to do it on this . . .
It's dream sweetly of sour pickles

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:31:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, how are you doing? It looks like we've lost the Ohio and KC connections.
- spider-wd042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:31:46 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
We have made a very interesting e-mail pal. She lives in Slovenia and works for the government there as a translator of German. She is of Gottscheer heritage and as her final work at the university, she studied and wrote about Gottscheer fairy tales. She spent four months in Austria, meeting and interviewing people for the project. Her e-mail messages are all so interesting.
- mod11.new-philly.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:34:34 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
We had some light drizzle today, but not nearly enough rain.
We've actually started watering the rhodedendrons because I was afraid the flower buds would just dry up if they didn't get some moisture soon, and I've been watering the daffodils on a regular basis as well. Not enough snow in the winter and hardly any rain so far. . .

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:37:11 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Ed and Mary - I have corresponded with Christian Samide -
his great-grandfather came from Schalkendorf,I think. .

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:40:25 (GMT)
Monet See:
Wuensche allen einen guten Abend
- spider-wa021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:41:34 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Danke. Hey, Ridy, I am using a little of my rusty German. Could understand that short sentence. Ed and Mary, are you related to the correspondent?
- spider-wd042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:43:44 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Guten Abend, Monet See. A new visitor, I gather?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:43:52 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Jim - by the time you come to the Treffen in September, it won't be rusty any more if you keep practicing!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:45:42 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, I assure you that it will still be rusty. I still have trouble with the correct pronunciation for Gottschee.
- spider-wd042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:46:30 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
To Ridy: We'll pass the info about Christian Samide on to Eric. Thanks!
To Jim: No, we are not related to the young woman in Slovenia _ at least that we know of.

- mod11.new-philly.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:48:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, what was the greatgrandfather's name?
- spider-wd042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:49:51 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Jim - try splitting the word in two -- for 'Gott' use the soft approach along the lines of 'goht' as in 'goat' and for 'schee' try 'shay' as in 'sashay' -- my husband, the linguist, would not approve, but it works for me.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:52:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
That sounds good to me.
- 1Cust225.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:57:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Pardon the delay. I switched off of
Aol to let Lnda check her mail.

- 1Cust225.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:58:54 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Christian's great-grandfather was Josef Samide, born 7/8/1864; his great-great-grandparents were Josef Samide and Maria Hutter. When the wife died, and the husband remarried, the children of the first marriage moved away from Gottschee -- the great-grandfather along with another brother to Austria, and sister to France, and the rest to the USA.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 01:59:03 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
How is Linda coming along, Jim? Well, I hope.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:00:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Doing better, thank you. The halo is off and she is feeling much better with the stiff collar. Another four weeks and we take another look.
- 1Cust225.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:03:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Thanks for the information on Christian but no matches in my file.
- 1Cust225.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:03:32 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy:
Do you have any idea what Christian Samide's father's name is? Thanks!

- mod11.new-philly.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:06:09 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Christian is looking for other descendants of his great-great-grandfather, who would have been born after the children of the first marriage left Gottschee.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:06:36 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Is anyone stillon tonite?
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:07:52 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
We had company and were playing cards.
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:08:33 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Ed and Mary -
Just checked back and I don't have Christian's father's name. I'll ask him, and let you know. My e-mail address is ridy@home.com

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:08:57 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Mary!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:09:40 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi group,
How is everyone?
I wasn't checking out Discovery tonight, but instead, I was looking at computers by Dell , on line. I need one badly cause mine keeps locking up on me. Too much input, not enough memory,,,,hmmm, that sounds like my problem too,.

- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:10:50 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy:
Did you see the message on the Gottscheer bulletin board about the young woman looking for information about her husband's family? She said they spell the name Hegler. They are newlyweds and she hopes to find out about the name and heritage.

- mod11.new-philly.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:11:01 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
HI Ridy
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:11:41 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly you need a laptop!!
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:11:55 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am really liking mine.
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:12:22 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Did you tell me what kind you got? Now that you have had it for a while, how is it?
- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:12:40 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Ed and Mary - no, I haven't been checking the bulletin board. Interesting how many versions of the name we're finding!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:13:48 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly I have a Toshiba and I am liking it.
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:13:53 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Holly!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:15:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have a laptop at work with a docking station. That way it functions like a full computer with large monitor and keyboard most of the time.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:15:50 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,

I will have to check out those laptops but I really think I must buy a new computer first, otherwise I will have nothing to download into.

- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:15:52 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Noticed the note about Hegler. Sent them an email looking for more information but no return as of yet.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:16:48 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Ridy,
Yes Jim, maybe that is the way to go. I could have both.

- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:16:58 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly laptops are big enought to hold it all and they hook up to printers also. Mine has a 3.5 floppy and a cd rom drive also.
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:17:50 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I'm following this discussion on computers very closely -
trying to learn something, since I'm going to have to get a new one soon as well.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:18:30 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Wow Mary,
I guess I haven't looked at laptops in a while. Thanks for that info.

- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:19:23 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy:
If you want to e-mail us with more info on Samide family, our e-mail address is ekrock@clover.net.
Good night everyone!

- mod11.new-philly.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:19:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
That way you can have the comfort of a desktop but the portability of a laptop. You could take it on vacation to look for ancestors in the sand and sun.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:19:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Goodnight, Ed & Mary

- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:20:04 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes you can attach a regular keyboard and mouse also.
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:20:06 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,

I thought you got a new one last fall? Was it just that something was wrong with yours?

- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:20:18 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
that is what I want to be able to take it with me.
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:20:54 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Goodnight "the Krockers"
- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:21:04 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Something was wrong with mine, and Christopher was trying to convince me that I needed a new one. I refused. So he fixed this one. And now I'm wishing I had listened to him because I've been running into all sorts of problems.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:22:44 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The only drawback with that setup is that you historically get less computer in a laptop and pay more for it but you would probably get more power in the laptop than you would ever need.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:22:47 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
I can relate to that. I am having my share of problems too.

- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:24:03 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
My laptop has 4.5 gig hard drive and 32 megs of ram and is 400 megahertz which is all you could ever need. It was $1200.
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:24:58 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
The prices have come down quite a bit.
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:25:36 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Mary! I thought we were talking english here!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:26:03 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
But Ridy that is computer english lolol.
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:26:51 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ok Ridy,
for your benefit we will say that Mary's laptop has a lot of memory and speed.

- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:27:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Imagine doing computer talk in Gottscheerisch!
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:28:04 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Thanks Holly -- there's my problem - fading memory and complete lack of speed!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:28:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Imagine doing computer talk in Gottscheerisch!
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:28:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Imagine doing computer talk in Gottscheerisch!
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:28:49 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I believe that is an oxy-moron.

- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:29:19 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
In Gottscheerisch would be something, and of course I would not understand a word of that!!!! lolol means laughing out loud for those of you who do not know...
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:29:59 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I don't have to imagine it, Jim. Trying to explain to my elderly aunts what computers can do has brought me face to face with that impossibility. I don't know how to say it and they don't know what I'm trying to say.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:30:58 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
oxy-moron, eh? I like that!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:32:09 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
lololol,
My Mother is the same. She is 83, and wants to know how I can "talk" to my sister, but not use a phone or write. When I explain it, she doesn't understand. then asks me again the next week.

- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:32:55 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Well I dont think my mother competely understands it either, and I am not sure I do...but I know it works lol
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:34:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Imagine how much better our children will be able to use computers than we do. They are growing up with it and get exposed to it everyday including school.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:37:45 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
did you get rain today?
- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:37:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Imagine how much better our children will be able to use computers than we do. They are growing up with it and get exposed to it everyday including school.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:38:01 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
It reminds me of the story my father loved to tell. . . .
They had a record player, and would play the same records over and over again. Then one day they got the first radio in Kukendorf, and a group of them were listening to a music program, and after a particularly lovely song, one of the others in the group asked father to play that again. . . .
I'm sure half the questions I ask about computers are no more intelligent than that was - probably not nearly as intelligent......

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:38:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Not yet.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:38:17 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh Ridy,
I probably know as much as you about computers. I just know some of the terms cause my nephew taught them to me. they just mean "more Power"

- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:40:34 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
We had about 5 inches of snow on Thursday which is about all gone and it is snowing again now. but we need the moisture.
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:41:07 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I sometimes wish I was 40 years younger - so that I could learn more about computers. Not only that, I would have missed WWII and that would be another plus!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:41:53 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am one of the lucky ones, I bought my first computer 10 years ago and use it in my business.
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:41:53 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yuk, no more snow please!
We had rain today. Just a quiet steady rain.

- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:42:08 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
When we get snow this time of the year it melts first and soaks in so we do not mind.
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:43:01 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh Ridy,
Like you would like to be 10 years old again! Oh I pass.

- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:43:22 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
Oh it didn't stick around? That would be ok.

- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:44:13 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Snow? It's April! Not that we haven't had snow in April in days gone by -- but it does seem a bit excessive! Come to think of it, the first baseball game the Blue Jays ever played here in Toronto was played in the snow - in April. Yuck!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:44:29 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I would not like to be 10 years old again either!!!!
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:44:37 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Well, it is getting late so I better say good-night.
Take care all, it was nice chatting with you again.
Until next time.

- ashdial-143.suite224.net - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:47:08 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Trust me, Mary, being 40 years younger wouldn't make me 10 years old again either! How does 24 sound to you?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:47:20 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Gute Nacht!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:48:05 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I dont think I want to go back ot any age. I like it where I am. lol good night everyone..glad I caught you before you had all signed off.
- spider-wd081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 03, 2000 at 02:49:09 (GMT)
Monet See:
Guten Abend!
Gottscheer Plauderzimmer ? Hm.
Ganz interessant!
Gute Nacht, alle !

- spider-we024.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 01:15:47 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Good evening, Monet. Are there any other Gottscheers out there tonight?

- mod11.new-philly.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 01:44:29 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Guten Abend, Monet. Scheinbar sind alle Plauderer heute recht schweigsam.
Good evening, Ed and Mary. Just checked in for a bit while
I'm waiting for our overseas guest to arrive. We're freezing up here in the cold North, and from the sounds of it everybody is being treated to the same frigid weather.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 01:52:54 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello everyone.
- spider-tn052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 01:54:59 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
It was a beautiful day in Colorado.
- spider-tn052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 01:55:22 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello Mary and Ridy! It was cold and snowy in Ohio today.
Ridy _ Wanted you to know we e-mailed Christian Samide. He told us his father's name is Gerhard, but his uncle's name is Franz. We're relaying this info to Eric Kraker, with the message that Christian wants to know if Eric still believes they are related. Thanks for your help.

- mod11.new-philly.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:01:57 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello! Is anyone still in the chat room?
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:19:14 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello Jim! Yes we are still on, but the chat room isn't very busy tonight.

- mod11.new-philly.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:24:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It does seem quiet. It can't be the fine weather outside because it is nasty outside.
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:25:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I missed the first part because I was watching the Sopranos. I don't watch much TV but I do like the show. Living in NJ, it is alarming even though large parts of the show are fictional. Others are based on actual incidents and that is the disturbing part.



- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:28:29 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
HI I have been talking to my sister. this room is not very busy tonite.
- spider-tn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:32:14 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
We are also watching the Cleveland Indians baseball game in Tampa Bay and just saw an announcement that a game in New York had been postponed because of snow!
- mod11.new-philly.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:34:21 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
We had beautiful spring weather today.
- spider-tn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:35:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
We had a decent amount of snow and then most of it melted.
- 1Cust114.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:36:11 (GMT)
Ridy:
Just came back on - is anyone still here?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:37:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Should be a good baseball season. The Yankees are strong but possibly not unbeatable.
- 1Cust114.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:37:50 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Ridy. People are coming on and off. It is hard to get it going but now that you are here .........
- 1Cust114.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:38:33 (GMT)
Ridy:
Thanks Jim, I think..... actually, I'm just checking in to see if I can find my sanity. Ray's niece is arriving this evening and for some idiotic reason, she was booked to fly
London/Philadelphia/Pittsburgh/Toronto!!!! She's finally on a flight from Philadelphia to Toronto, but now only scheduled to get in about an hour from now because it was late coming from Tampa. Never mind - everyone here is confused as well.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:41:47 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Since it was cold and snowy here today, we decided to go to an antique mall today. We found a Bavarian-style men's hat with three silver emblems and a brush-like trim pinned on one side, possibly made from deer hair. We just had to buy it! Especially since we have a photo of Ed's great uncle wearing one almost like it.
- mod11.new-philly.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:44:55 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Sounds like a good flight plan to me. Actually, I hate stopovers and will do anything to avoid them. A layover just gives the airlines another chance to make a mistake.
- 1Cust114.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:47:43 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ed & Mary,
Sounds like you are sending the weather this way. Very bluster out tonight. A "Winnie the Pooh" type night.

- 1Cust114.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:48:31 (GMT)
Ridy:
Ed and Mary - re that hat you bought -- I'm going to go way
out on a limb and tell you that is a Gamsbart - a tuft of chamois hair - which is used both in a shaving brush and to decorate men's hats. Very popular!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:50:57 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - I'm with you on stopovers - and there will be an Atlas left in this young lady's guestroom at some point over the next six weeks!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:53:08 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
She is there for a long visit...
- spider-tn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:54:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, any snow up your way?
- 1Cust114.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:55:21 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight to all! Ridy, thanks for the info about the hat. Now we like it even more! Hope the weather improves before we chat again.
- mod11.new-philly.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:57:33 (GMT)
Ridy:
Yes, Mary - very looooong. But she'll be doing some post-graduate work at our local Zoo - she's a vet - so it won't be quite as bad as it was in years gone by when I was the entertainment committee plus cook and cleaning lady.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:57:35 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good night, Ed and Mary.
Yes Jim - we had about an inch, and Ray took some photos of the daffodils laden with the stuff. It's mostly gone again now, but it's still cold out there. Not my cup of tea at all.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 02:58:56 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
well it is good that she will be busy. I found someone who might be able to help me with some information from Ely Minnesota. I think one of the Peschel family lived there, and this person used to live there. but I dont know his name yet. lolol
- spider-tn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:00:57 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Yesterday was such a beautiful day. Today snow. There is a park not far from here that has more cherry blossoms than Washington with a small pond and a cathedral nearby. What a sight to see the reflection of the cherry blossoms in the pond with the setting sun gleaming off of the stained glass. Wish I had a camera.
- 1Cust114.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:03:21 (GMT)
Ridy:
That should be an interesting search, Mary. Maybe you should consider wearing a Gamsbart so that you can find each other! -:)(:-
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:03:54 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - think of the picture with the gleaming snow added!
Since it's "not far from here" couldn't you try to catch it and then send me a copy?!
By the way, how is Linda?

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:06:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Linda is doing well with the hard collar. A couple of more weeks and we have to recheck the healing. She gets to drive a car pretty soon but only for short distances.
- 1Cust114.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:09:11 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Glad to hear she is doing better, Jim
- spider-tn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:10:49 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Wonder what Holly is doing tonight. Anything good on TLC or THC??? I like those channels as well. A little history or science and I am done.
- 1Cust114.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:11:00 (GMT)
Ridy:
That sounds like good progress, if driving is in the near future.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:12:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Thanks, Mary. Sounds as if you are making good headway. It is funny how we learn about things. I subscribe to the Bavaria site and get the postings. I learn a little here and there. Tonight somebody posted something about the town where my greatgrandmother was born. The internet has been great.
- 1Cust114.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:12:51 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I dont watch much more than the news anymore, and the decorating shows lol
- spider-tn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:12:59 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Spend too much time doing genealogy.
- spider-tn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:14:27 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Have to sign off for now. Need to catch my zzzzz's before my taxi service in the morning. I can't wait for Linda to get her "yellow cab" back in action.
- 1Cust114.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:15:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Genealogy is addicting, isn't it? Guten abend.
- 1Cust114.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:15:44 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
yes it is addicting. good night Jim
- spider-tn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:17:00 (GMT)
Ridy:
Never too much, Mary! But I missed a terrific chance today - I had planned to go to Kitchener for a cousin's 65th birthday party, which would have been a great chance to see all my old aunts and chat in Gottscheerisch. . . .but the weather and all the preparations intervened and I never made it. My daughter keeps telling me that I'm missing the best chances to dig into the past while I still have living relatives who remember. . . .
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:17:34 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gute Nacht to both of you - time to turn on all the lights!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:18:50 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy yes you are. I certainly wish I had some family members i could talk to and learn things.
- spider-tn051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 03:20:11 (GMT)
Ed Rom:
To Mary Thurman:

I saw your message mentioning Ely, MN. I grew up in Ely. I thought I was half Slovenian (the other half is Finnish) until sometime last year, when I saw the name Gottschee for the first time (I knew the name Kocevje). I don't know what happened, but most of the Gottscheers in Ely spell their names the Slovenian way (such as Zbasnik for Sbaschnig, Kromar for Kromer, Pechaver for Petschauer, Jakich (or Yakich) for Jaklitsch etc. and so on.
There was a guy named Peshel (must be originally Peschel) who ran a soda fountain next door to Slogar's gas station. He had the last nickel Cokes in the area, as well as the last nickel potato chips. I don't even remember if he was married or not -- there weren't any Peshels my age.

Ed Rom

- cp-cache1.cpinternet.COM - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 06:02:38 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Thanks Ed. This is certainly turning out to be a very small world. I just had contact from someone else who also had relatives in Ely, Minn also. Between the two of you, maybe I will find something out. What year was this, and about how old was this Peschel. The one I am looking for, his first name was Frank. and born about 1881. Would this have been him or some of his family maybe. Came to Ely about 1900. That is all I know about him so far. Thanks again.
- spider-wg081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 13:18:37 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi! Missed you all. AToo busy to log on. Sorry. Will look forward to next Sunday. Bleib gesund.
- KSCYB105-36.splitrock.net - Monday, April 10, 2000 at 21:04:42 (GMT)
mak Murphy - grand son:
Are margaret Jonke there

- FRGOB105-05.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:07:23 (GMT)
mark Murphy - grandson of leo:
Are you there margaret yonke?
Send me a mail, will be on-line for a bit.

- FRGOB105-05.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:09:57 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi to all. Late getting on. Is that son, Mark, logging on?
No Murphys allowed on the plauderzimmer. Kidding. Called you, but you were gone.

- KSCYB204-30.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:10:53 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Hi, guys. AM I all alone on line tonight? It's lonesome, besides being really cold in KCMO. Somebody answer me, please.
- KSCYA010-0740.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:19:17 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Mary, Ed, Ridy, and Jim. Where are you?
- KSCYA010-0740.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:20:42 (GMT)
mark murphy :
I'm back in the plauder mom!
- FRGOB105-05.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:24:26 (GMT)
mark murphy :
Tax software screw-up, had to fix.
- FRGOB105-05.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:25:36 (GMT)
mark murphy :
Is KCMO jonke/murphy still on-line.
- FRGOB105-05.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:26:35 (GMT)
mark murphy :
Hello is anyone out there??

- FRGOB105-05.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:27:43 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Mark, I'm here. Been looking for you. Yes. We are coming. Checked the internet for weather forecast. Looks good for the coming week. Father fished a tournament today at SMithville. Almost froze. No prizes.
- KSCYA010-0740.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:27:53 (GMT)
mark murphy :
The prize might be on COLD or FLU.
- FRGOB105-05.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:28:37 (GMT)
mark murphy :
IRS said I wasn't in there system
- FRGOB105-05.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:29:44 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Talk about chilled to the bone! Will need two days to get warm. Your brother and Joe went to Jacomo with small boat and a DST friend. Ditto; freezing.
- KSCYA010-0740.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:29:57 (GMT)
mark murphy :
Hey we hit 48 today It's like a tropical vacation
- FRGOB105-05.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:30:59 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello Margret,
There doesn't seem to be much activity on the Chat again tonight.
We were just browsing through the visitors' site and were interested in many of the messages. Ed has met his second cousin, Adolph Mausser from Ridgewood, N.Y., and knows he has other relatives from that area. Maybe a message on the visitors' site would help him find more of his cousins. It's worth a try. We read where one man had located several relatives.

- mod15.new-philly.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:31:11 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Where are the Gottscheers tonight?
- KSCYA010-0740.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:31:46 (GMT)
mark murphy :
I'm sort of gottscheers but 3 or 4 times removed
- FRGOB105-05.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:33:09 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Ed and Mary
I got loads of relatives in Ridgewood. My cousins' mom maiden name Nausser. Might try to contact Frank Mausser in Ridgewood. Very active in Gottscheed Relief Assoc.

- KSCYA010-0740.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:33:15 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Ed and Mary:
My Aunt ANna and Uncle Herman Lackner used to manage the Gottscheer Club in Ridgewood. Lots of contacts there.

- KSCYA010-0740.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:35:08 (GMT)
mark murphy :
Call me after your done on the plauderzimmer. I'll be up for ahour or so. Will wait for responds.
- FRGOB105-05.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:35:52 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Auf Wiedersehen all. Bleib gesund.
- KSCYA010-0740.splitrock.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:36:56 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Margaret:
Thanks for the info about Frank Mausser. Who knows, maybe he's a cousin. Ed only learned of his Gottscheer heritage about three years ago. We went to the Treffen in Cleveland last fall and he met Adolph Mausser and another cousin whose son in an opera singer in Vienna. However, he didn't get her full name and knows he probably has even more cousins in and around Ridgewood.

- mod15.new-philly.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:38:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello to everyone.
- spider-wd071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:40:07 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Jim,
Not too much going on here tonight. Maybe the nice weather is keeping everyone busy outside, but Margaret Jonke reported "freezing weather" there.

- mod15.new-philly.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:50:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Weather is erratic here. Rain then sun then clouds then rain. Had a couple of hours to relax outside this afternoon. The ground is too wet to work with yet.

- spider-wd071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:54:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
When the number of people in the room is too low, it is hard to keep it going. I will be checking in now and then.

- spider-wd071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 01:58:41 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight to all! Maybe there will be more chatting on Easter Sunday! We are having an electrical storm here currently and I am going to log off.

- mod15.new-philly.net - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 02:09:18 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
HELLO Sorry I am late
- spider-wg083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 02:42:07 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Guess everyone is gone. Happy Easter to everyone, I will be out of town the next two weekends. Beautiful weather in Colorado today. Worked outside in the yard this afternoon and went for a long walk tonite.
- spider-wg083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 02:46:00 (GMT)
Sally Malishefski:
Spring has has finally come to cold Ohio , had to cut the grass today!!but I dont dare put the snow shovel away , living in Ohio we have all seasons in one week! Summer is around the corner , the Robins are happy -POLKA ON everyone
- spider-wg042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 10:18:52 (GMT)
Urska Stimec:
Hajli hajlo, from Koèevje...
The spring is here, the birds are singing in the wood - Koèevski rog, the bears woke up and the people start with the work on their gardens. It was very warm today, 23 degrees Celsium...
I am looking for Richard samide, born in 1917 or 1919 in Željne/Seele, he moved to N.Y. My grandpas best friend. My grandpa is still alive and he can still tell great stories about the life in Koèevje, 60 years ago or more...

- 212.30.67.77 - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 18:50:13 (GMT)
Carolyn S. Cecil:
Hello everyone! Urska, the apple trees and lilacs are in full bloom here also in Illinois. Farmers are planting corn already. Looking for information on Maria Simec b. 18 Sept 1871 in Slovenia. Urska, is the "t" in your name silent? Happy Easter to all...
- cca25.ccaonline.com - Monday, April 17, 2000 at 23:52:09 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
FROHE OSTERN!
Happy Easter!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Sunday, April 23, 2000 at 02:53:44 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Anyone still here?
- pool0852.cvx23-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Sunday, April 23, 2000 at 03:36:41 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Joe!
Long time no hear!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Sunday, April 23, 2000 at 03:40:22 (GMT)
sepp:
hallo
- cw01.M1.srv.t-online.de - Sunday, April 23, 2000 at 08:18:37 (GMT)
Gladitsch:
Wünsche Euch Gottscheern " Frohe Ostern "
- cw06.M1.srv.t-online.de - Sunday, April 23, 2000 at 08:21:05 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
Frohe Ostern an alle Gottscheer und ihre familien in
der ganze Welt!

- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Sunday, April 23, 2000 at 14:38:05 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
And a happy Easter to all on the plauderzimmer tonight. Hope everyone had a lovely holiday.
- KSCYB108-42.splitrock.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 00:58:08 (GMT)
FRANZ MAUSSER:
FROAHE OASTRN, OLLE GOETSCHEABARE
- 1Cust47.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:12:09 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
What happened?? I lost all of you and am back to last Sunday's plauderzimmer?? How did this happen?
- KSCYA010-0859.splitrock.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:13:49 (GMT)
FRANZ MAUSSER:
MARGARET, You must have clicked your heels and met the wizzard of .........?
- 1Cust47.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:15:49 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Tom Stalzer: Are you any relation to the Stalzers from Kummerdorf?? My great grandmother was Ursula Stalzer who married my great grandfather Andreas (?) Jonke. I have Stalzer cousins in Florida and New Hampshire. ???
- KSCYA010-0859.splitrock.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:16:36 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Franz; The Wizard of Oz sometimes pops up on the internet. There may be a theme park by that name in Kansas not too far from me. But many years away.
- KSCYA010-0859.splitrock.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:20:27 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Happy Easter to all! And to Ridy and Urska _ We didn't really want you to be in a ditch for Easter! Mea culpa. I'm sorry I didn't copy the message on the card correctly. So we'll just say Happy Easter!
- mod42.new-philly.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:21:11 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Happy Easter, everyone!
- pool0132.cvx38-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:22:41 (GMT)
FRANZ MAUSSER:
Hey you easterbunnies out there, where are my eastereggs? I hope you all found some. Would you mind sharing?
- 1Cust47.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:24:15 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Franz: Would love to share, but I didn't get any eggs. I guess the Easter bunny couldn't find my house. Sorry. We do have some leftover Easter ham.
- KSCYA010-0859.splitrock.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:28:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Happy Easter to everyone in the chat room. I hope you are not as stuffed as I. Too much food.
- spider-to026.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:28:37 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Must sign off. Work to do. See you all next Sunday. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- KSCYA010-0859.splitrock.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:31:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Margaret


- spider-to026.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:32:43 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Hi Jim, how have you been?
- pool0132.cvx38-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:33:54 (GMT)
FRANZ MAUSSER:
Happy Easter, Jim. Long time no talk. Hope you enjoyed your stuffing. So did I. On the sentimental and traditional side who remembers the Gottscheer Mothers baking and pasting with fresh cream Doves and Lambs? which then were taken on saturday evening to church to be blessed.
- 1Cust47.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:35:21 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Holly e-mailed some info she had received from a deacon in Slovenia on Easter customs, etc. It was really interesting!
- mod42.new-philly.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:38:37 (GMT)
John B. Gladitsch:
It was a wonderful Easter Sunday and we enjoyed the ham with fresh grated "Kren"(horseradish) and traditional bread with bits of smoked ham.
- user-2inigqi.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:39:25 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
We're having traditional Easter lasagna (forgot to buy the ham!)
- pool0132.cvx38-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:40:57 (GMT)
John B. Gladitsch:
Here in Ridgewood N.Y. we still practice the Gottscheer Easter custom of having a portion of the Easter meal blessed at our parish Church on Saturday the day before Easter.
- user-2inigqi.dialup.mindspring.com - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:45:44 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Never been to Ridgewood, although my great-uncle lived there (on Onderdonk, I believe).

- pool0132.cvx38-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:48:52 (GMT)
FRANZ MAUSSER:
John, it is nice to find out that some traditions are still kept and practiced.
- 1Cust6.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:48:53 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Guten Abend, und Frohe Ostern!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 01:58:35 (GMT)
:
Ridy, Guten Abend und Froahe Oaschtrn.
- 1Cust6.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:05:28 (GMT)
Franz:
OOps Ridy, did not sign my name.
- 1Cust6.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:06:40 (GMT)
Ridy:
Froahe Oaschtrn, Franz -
That Gottscheer spelling is not easy!
I can still recall on our very last Easter in Kukendorf, taking my very own basket, filled with Krainerwurst, easter eggs, and Buchteln, to Church on Saturday afternoon to be blessed. There was a real competition to have the prettiest basket, and until I saw all the others, I thought mine was tops!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:09:38 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Ridy
Hope you weren't in a ditch today! Guess we'd better stick to English. Did you get the e-mail from Holly on the Easter customs from the deacon in Slovenia. We printed it out, because we thought it was interesting and wanted to show it to our kids.

- mod42.new-philly.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:12:00 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Ed and Mary! Yes, I did get that e-mail from Holly, but haven't had time to read my mail yet.... I was chief cook and bottlewasher for Easter Dinner, and that keeps me hopping. But I don't really feel as if it was a proper Easter -- we didn't have Kren (horseradish) and you can't have an Easter meal without it!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:15:00 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, since I don,t have anyone to speak gottscheerisch with it makes it more difficult to spell. But I keep trying. those basket at that time were always beautiful, especially when we could snatch some goodies.
- 1Cust6.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:16:04 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - I'm always being told I still speak Gottscheerisch perfectly; well, it ain't true. I recorded a conversation with a couple of my aunts recently, and I was really shocked at my terrible Gottscheerisch! I sound like some student who's just learning the language....very depressing.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:19:33 (GMT)
Franz:
Hi Ed and Mary, my godfathers name was Alois Kraker, I only remember his mothers name Magdalena. They were from Komutzen. According to Jim we might be distant cousins.?
- 1Cust6.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:25:42 (GMT)
Franz:
It has been a long day, Good Night everyone.
- 1Cust6.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:32:30 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gute Nacht!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:33:59 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Franz
Ed's grandmother was Helena Kraker from Komutzen No. 9. Her parents were Johann and Magdalena Mausser Kraker. Helena married Johann Kraker of Rotenstein No. 14.
Ed's second cousin is Adolph Mausser of Ridgewood, N.Y. We met him for the first time last September at the Treffen in Cleveland. We have kept in touch with Adolph and his wife, Maria Kraker Mausser.
Ed had an uncle, Louis (Alois) Krocker, but he was born in Bridgeport, Ohio. Would love to have another Gottscheer cousin.

- mod42.new-philly.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:34:16 (GMT)
Franz:
Ed and Mary, my Godmother Regina Kraker is still living in Germany, I will have to call and find out more about her inlaws family. I hope I can get some firsthand info.
- 1Cust6.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:39:29 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Franz
That would be great! Since Ed only learned of his Gottscheer
heritage about three years ago, we have tried to learn as much as we can about Gottschee, relatives and ancestors.
Ed found out that about 1900, of about 27 houses in Komutzen, eight were occuped by Kraker familes and six of them by Maussers!
When we started to search, we never knew it would be so much fun to be Gottscheer!

- mod42.new-philly.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:48:00 (GMT)
Franz:
It has been a long day, Good Night everyone.
- 1Cust69.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:48:10 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Good night to all! Hope you had a very nice Easter.
- mod42.new-philly.net - Monday, April 24, 2000 at 02:53:55 (GMT)
Julia Knaus:
Lookink for my cuosin Maria Pospischil son Andy Troha in
upstate NY he is a teacher

- spider-tj031.proxy.aol.com - Thursday, April 27, 2000 at 21:23:26 (GMT)
Julia Knaus:
Lookink for my cuosin Maria Pospischil son Andy Troha in
upstate NY he is a teacher

- spider-tj031.proxy.aol.com - Thursday, April 27, 2000 at 21:26:25 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, all. Hope you are well. Rain in KCMO today. unexpected, but welcome. Eddie, are you on tonight? Hope to talk to the gentleman who said his grandmother (?) was a Stalzer. My great-grandmother was Ursula Stalzer-Kummerdorf.
- KSCYA010-0842.splitrock.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 00:56:39 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Margaret. We haven't had any rain in our part of Ohio for several days and we could sure use some. Hope you get to chat with the gentleman you mentioned.
- mod46.new-philly.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:06:30 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ed and Mary:
Always looking for lost cousins. Our family has a ton of them. Pete Yonke (cousin-Florida) is a family tree fiend. He's now checking Latter Day Saints records.

- KSCYA010-0842.splitrock.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:08:20 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Guten Abend, alle.
- 1Cust249.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:20:43 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
It is kind of lonely tonight.
- 1Cust249.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:23:35 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hello everyone!
- slip-166-72-189-45.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:25:01 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie: So glad you logged on!D How are Krista and Nancy? How is the weather in New Hamp? What do you hear from your mom and dad?
- KSCYA010-0842.splitrock.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:27:53 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ed and Mary, I called my sister in Austria this week. Asked her about Komutzen # 9. I was born in # 14. # 9 was across the street from us. Do you know Walter Kraker? He lives in Germany, he used to live in # 9
He is a very close friend of our family.

- 1Cust249.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:34:26 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie: Where are you? It's very quiet on the plauderzimmer tonight. Hi, Franz.
- KSCYA010-0842.splitrock.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:34:58 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Margaret, what is going on tonight? Too many cookouts?
- 1Cust249.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:37:30 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
I am here in NH. I spent most of last week in Dayton Ohio for work.
- slip-166-72-189-45.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:41:33 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Margie Nancy and Krista are fine, and my parents are doing great.
- slip-166-72-189-45.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:42:27 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz: I seem to have lost my cousin, Eduard Stalzer, on the pluderzimmer. Maybe he had a hot barbecue grill to attend to. Did I mention that I have "near cousins" whose mothers were Maussers. Only 1 still living-Marie Mausser Wolf in KC. And a brother, Frank, in Ridgewood. I almost forgot him.
- KSCYA010-0842.splitrock.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:43:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Franz and Margaret. Anyone left tonight? Franz, you seem to have information on Gottscheers in Austria and Germany. Is there a place to find out who went in that direction?

- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:43:44 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Margaretha, I am currently going through the SSDI and trying to locate Gottscheers after they emigrated. Quite a few hits in the Kansas City area. Did Gottscheers settle in both the Kansas and Missouri "Kansas Cities"?
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:46:16 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
I am still here.
- slip-166-72-189-45.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:47:21 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim Heimann: Lots of Gottscheers here-most are related to me one way or another. Since my grandmother's name was Jonke before and after marriage, we've got cousins by the carload.
- KSCYA010-0842.splitrock.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:47:40 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hello Jim, nice to know you are still with us. What could I help you with?
- 1Cust249.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:47:48 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello to all!
Franz: We were happy to hear about Walter Kraker being a friend. From information we received from Adolph Mausser, we believe Walter and Ed are second cousins. We've never met him, but perhaps we'll be able to someday. Interesting to know you were born across the street from Komutzen No. 9. Do you remember anything about No. 9? We know Ed's grandmother's family lived there for decades. Thanks for all the info you've given us!

- mod46.new-philly.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:48:28 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie: Pete Yonke, Pensacola, and his brother and sister are going to Gottschee around Labor Day. Just got email from him today. A big Florida wind blew a huge branch down on hiw roof and his wife. Everything's OK now.
- KSCYA010-0842.splitrock.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:49:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Franz. Just trying to trace people and where they went. The SSDI helps out a lot for those who came to the US. I wonder what percent of Gottscheers went to the US, Canada, Germany, Austria.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:50:56 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must sign off. Work to do. Auf Wiedersehen. Alles Gute.
- KSCYA010-0842.splitrock.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:53:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, could you give Peter my email address? I would like to touch base with him and his work.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:53:30 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
My Father is going to Klagenfurt in June and maybe Gottschee. He is going to visit his brother Viktor and sister Reli.
- slip-166-72-189-45.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:54:46 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim; I'd be glad to. His email is: peteyonke@aol.com He would probably like to hear from you.
- KSCYA010-0842.splitrock.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:54:56 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Got to go also. Hi Jim!
- slip-166-72-189-45.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:55:15 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Margaret.

Ed & Mary, I may have sent this to you already but Ed is Franz's 4th, 5th, 5th once removed, 6th, 6th once removed, and 7th cousin.

- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:55:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello and goodbye cousin Ed. Say hello to everyone.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:56:01 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, Thanks for the address.

Ed, please say hello to Eric when you see or talk to him.

- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:56:59 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Jim: Thanks for the info. Does that mean Franz and Ed are related several different ways? Not surprising since there were many Kraker-Mausser marriages.
- mod46.new-philly.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 01:58:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Exactly, there were so many intermarriages with distant cousins that we intersect all over the place. Ed and I are half 2nd cousins twice removed, 3rd cousin X 3, 4th X 2, 4th X 3, and a couple of others.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:02:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ed, when you check the chat room ------ please ask your Dad to say hello to Uncle Viktor. He helped me a lot at the beginning of the genealogy work.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:04:15 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Oh boy! Now we know why they said at the Treffen, "We're just all good Gottcheer cousins!"
Ed is going to give Eric Kraker a call this week. So will pass on your greeting.

- mod46.new-philly.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:06:57 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ed and Mary, sorry, I got bumped then I had a phone call. Walter Kraker spent some time here in the States and went back to Germany. I you would like I have his address and phone #. I dont remember to much of # 9. I was 5 when we left.
- 1Cust123.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:07:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Welcome back, Franz. During the work on the SSDI I ran into quite a few Maussers in the US with the spelling of Mauser. As a matter of fact, there were more Mausers than Maussers.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:09:58 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, I suspect for simplicity reasons some just left one S off. I have run into same.
- 1Cust123.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:11:50 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Franz: We'd love to have Walter Kraker's address and telephone number. Our e-mail address is ekrock@clover.net. We'd heard from Adolph Mausser that Walter had lived in the States, and we believe has a sister living in Hawley, Pa. Thanks neighbor and cousin!
- mod46.new-philly.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:13:34 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Guten Abend, everyone.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:17:07 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ed and Mary, as I gather Adolf Mausser is from Unterwarmberg
.Was his father Alois who had the Gasthaus? Also is he the Adolph who almost got killed when he ws tortured by the partisans.

- 1Cust123.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:17:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Would that be Walter born in 1922 Komutzen#9? Is the sister, Santa Maria?
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:17:31 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, yes I think you got it.
- 1Cust123.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:18:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Oops, can't be Santa Maria. She is listed as deceased in 1928. The family book did not list any other sisters. I plan to go the Hawley area in late spring or early summer. A friend has a house near the lake. Hope to get to Lukan's. Have never been there.

Hello, Ridy.

- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:19:44 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Yes Jim, She fell from the balkony and hit a boulder, I think she died instantly.
- 1Cust123.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:21:42 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Franz: Yes, we believe Adolf is from Unterwarmberg and now living in Ridgewood, N.Y. He told Ed he was shot seven times by the Partisans.
Jim: There was a Santa Maria Venedig who married Joseph Kraker, a brother to Ed's grandmother, Helena. relationship. Also Ji

- mod46.new-philly.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:22:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, you are a cousin of Walter's as well.3rd by once removed, 3rd by twice, 4th by once, and so on.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:23:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have Santa Maria Kraker nee Venedig in my file. She died in 1925. She was Walter's mom. Did his father remarry and have more children?
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:26:41 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ed and Mary, when I spoke with my sister we talked about Adolf. If you speak with him again tell him I am the yougest of the Maussers. House name was Kischnasch. My older silblings are Josef, Maria, Santa Pauline, and Albert. I am sure he will know.
- 1Cust123.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:27:06 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, I dont think his father remarried. He has brothers. After his mother died my mother took him on like a son. He was more at home by us the his house.
- 1Cust123.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:30:27 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Ridy! Hope you had a good week.
Jim: We've always been told the two priests, Father John Kraker of Cleveland and Father Joseph Kraker of Akron, were relatives. Ed's father had a business card of their grandfather's, John Kraker, who owned and operated the Old Heidelberg Inn at Akron for many years. Their father was Joseph Kraker. Father John Kraker died recently. Do you have info on possible relationship?

- mod46.new-philly.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:30:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ed & Mary, I may have information but I would need some birthdates. The data comes from a lot of sources but we may get lucky.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:32:45 (GMT)
Charles:
Hi, I've been off the chat line for over a year, but kept up with you all. Have a question. I've screened the entire Encyclopedia Britanica, and the Miriam Webster dictionary on the internet and find no mention of Gottschee. On Slovenia there is a history going back to the year 1000, with extensive mention of the German culture, language, gov't, etc., but no mention of Gottschee(r) I've contacted the Slovenian Cultural Institute by e-mail...they have no knowledge of Gottschee(r). WHY ? merkelz@eden.com
- sa1-42.ConnectI.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:35:34 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, I "envy" your connections with Gottschee. I have a lot of names in my file but most of them are just names. I enjoy hearing about the people from those who know them. It gives the information some life and substance.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:36:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Charles, the encyclopedia only lists Count von Gottschee. I am not sure why the Slovenian office did not know more but Max Mische at the GHGA may be of help.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:38:00 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, when I was still in the Old Country and with my parents, whenever they had Gottscheer visitors they always talked about HOME. Gottschee. Unfortunetly I did not pay attention. Some things stuck with me. Now I wish I could remember more.
- 1Cust123.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:40:39 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Jim: We don't have any birthdates, but Father John Kraker was 66 when he died last February. Also, Walter was born in 1922, according to Resettlement book.
Franz: We'll pass the info on to Adolph and his wife, Maria. Adolph will be happy to hear of the connections. Are you and Adolph related? Silly question! Nice story about how your family "adopted" Walter.


- mod46.new-philly.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:41:16 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ed and Mary, to my kowledge I dont think I am related to Adolf. But who knows? Perhaps Jim does. I know our families were close.
- 1Cust123.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:50:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have a Johann Kraker born in 1935 and house numbers of Komutzen#21 (birth???) and living in Komutzen#35 in 1941. Father was Alois and mother, Regina Kraker nee Schmid.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:50:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have another Johann Kraker born in 1933 and dying in 1998. He was Eric's brother. Father was Joseph Kraker and mother was Juliana Kraker nee Koenig.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:52:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
What is Adolf's birthdate?
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:53:27 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, Johann Kraker is my first cousin. His mother and my mother were sisters. His mother Regina still lives with his family. Johann and I were very close. I saw him last two years ago. They live in Germany.
- 1Cust123.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:53:27 (GMT)
Charles:
Jim, I guess my question should be why isnt the Gottschee recognized as an ethnic group in Slovenia, outside of the GHGA. Or is it ?
- sa1-42.ConnectI.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:54:43 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, thanks again for the links to Germany. Do the Gottscheers tend to live in one general area of Germany or are they spread around?
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:56:19 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Jim:
Someone in Cleveland told us that the priests' grandfather, Johann Kraker, may have been born in Steinwand. May have been related through Ed's grandfather who was from Rotenstein. About all we knew was that an aunt liked to visit at the Old Heidelberg Inn and a cousin said the owners were our relatives.
Like Franz, Ed never bothered to ask when the aunts were living. We should all become interested in these things earlier.

- mod46.new-philly.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:57:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Charles, I don't know if I have the answer to your question but there aren't many Gottscheer left in Slovenia since the emigrations after World War II. Also, recogition may entail some restitution or other legal entanglements.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:58:07 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, I think they are spread around. It is hard to describe how difficult it was for all of us to find a home after WWII. I still feel like a Gypsy.
- 1Cust123.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:58:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
There were Krakers in Steinwand and I am sure the were links but I would need more specific information before going further. I think I had a link somewhere but it would be very difficult to dig up without more information.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 02:59:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Have to go. Nice chatting. If you have any other questions or other information, drop a line on my email. It was a nice way to end the week. Thanks for the information.
- spider-tq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 03:03:42 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
It was a very interestin chat tonight. I will try to do more digging. Ed and MAry I will forward Walters address and phone #. I wish you all a good Night and pleasant week.
- 1Cust123.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 03:03:48 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Jim: We're going to try to contact Father Joseph Kraker sometime and see if he knows of a relationship. Also, Ed found Adolph's birthdate. It is 3/29/1925 in Unterwarmberg No. 26.
This has been an interesting chat. Thanks for all the info and goodnight to all!

- mod46.new-philly.net - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 03:06:02 (GMT)
Charles:
Jim, thank you. Next question. What is a Gottscheer....
how far back must one go ?

- sa1-42.ConnectI.com - Monday, May 01, 2000 at 03:07:51 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Charles, I am Gottscheer, born in the village Komutzen. There were about 180 Villages and the County Seat Gottschee.The entire area was called Gottschee. Yes there is or better there was a Gottschee. I was there.
- 1Cust100.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Wednesday, May 03, 2000 at 10:33:19 (GMT)
John:
After World War 1,Slovenia broke away from Austria and united with Serbia then the name Gottschee became Kocevje . Now that Slovenia is an independant democratic country maybe the name Gottschee will be recognized by the public relations department of the new country of Slovenia.In Italy there are two official names for for towns in Tyrol , the German name and the Italian name.
- user-2iniigf.dialup.mindspring.com - Thursday, May 04, 2000 at 16:36:24 (GMT)
Charles:
Thank you John and Franz, but my question was simply to define a Gottschee, i.e., a German-Austrian, born and raised in Gottschee county who spoke the Gottschee language? (or descendant thereof?) What of those who were born in neighboring villages? It appears that the county line defines a Gottsheer, rather than all those Austrian-Germans that were sent to settle that area, as opposed to Slovenes. I found many of early Austrian-German heritage from outside the county lines.
- sa3-209.ConnectI.com - Thursday, May 04, 2000 at 19:05:30 (GMT)
John:
Gottschee is sometimes referred to as the "Sprachinsel-Gottschee" which means the "language-island."The Gottscheer language is a very significant factor in the culture.
- user-2iniigl.dialup.mindspring.com - Friday, May 05, 2000 at 06:00:37 (GMT)
Charles:
I would like to continue this discussion on Gottshee culture if others are interested. For example, when and how did the Gottschee dialect originate? Did the local government, schools and churches use this dialec?
Did the dialect spread throughout the county from it's likely origin in the town of Gottsche? Or is it only the dialect of a specific "clan" of Austrian-Germans?

- sa3-179.ConnectI.com - Friday, May 05, 2000 at 20:52:56 (GMT)
Julia Knaus:
Lookink for my cuosin Maria Pospischil son Andy Troha in
upstate NY he is a teacher

- spider-we052.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 00:03:17 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Charles: My own understanding is that Gottscheerisch is most closely related to Middle High German. Whereas the German language evolved over the centuries, as did English, Gottscheerisch changed very little because Gottschee was completely encircled by Slovenian-speaking people. In other words, it was a "Sprachinsel" as John has already stated. I was born in Gottschee and my first language was Gottscheerisch; the written language, however, was German.
Do you read German? If so, I'd be happy to send you the names of some books on Gottschee.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 02:38:11 (GMT)
John:
Charles,concerning your questions about the Gottscheer language,from what I have heard,Gottscheerisch is primarily a spoken language passed down from generation to generation orally.The language is written for chorus singing and poetry reciting.In the school system standard German grammar was taught and personal conversations were in Gottscheerisch.The legal system was practiced using "hoch-Deutsch" and Latin.The Gottscheerisch is similiar to the German language spoken in Bavaria in the middle ages with a Thuringian influence.Gottschee being in a somewhat geographic isolation from the rest of the germanic world has preserved a middle-ages type of spoken German.Gottscheerisch was spoken in the entire 570 square miles of the Gottschee area and is still spoken by some people there today there.
- user-2iniidn.dialup.mindspring.com - Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 02:49:43 (GMT)
John:
Hi Ridy ,I guess we both thought about the same subject at almost the same time in the isolation of cyber-space.
- user-2iniidn.dialup.mindspring.com - Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 02:54:31 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
The unanswered question in my mind is: who is John?
my e-mail address is
ridy@home.com

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 03:04:07 (GMT)
John B.Gladitsch:
Hi Ridy, My e-mail address is jbglad@pipeline.com

- user-2inigbp.dialup.mindspring.com - Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 03:13:19 (GMT)
John B.Gladitsch:
Hi Ridy, My e-mail address is jbglad@pipeline.com

- user-2inigbp.dialup.mindspring.com - Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 03:27:24 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
The unanswered question in my mind is: who is John?
my e-mail address is
ridy@home.com

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 04:04:26 (GMT)
Charles:
Thank you, Ridy and John. You've answered my question very conclusively. It was enlightening and perhaps enjoyed by others too. My father was born in Neuberg in 1890, schooled in Cermosnjice. My mother born in Bavaria could not understand him when he spoke with his mother in Gottschee. He called himself an Austrian but his lineage went back to the early 1800's in Gottschee villages, with ties to Kapsch, Grill, Susteric and Schober. Unfortunately, I don't know German.
- sa3-163.ConnectI.com - Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 19:38:44 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Your father, Charles, was quite correct in calling himself an Austrian because Gottschee was part of Austria at the time he was born. In my own case, when my father was born, Gottschee was still part of Austria; when I was born in the very same house, it was Yugoslavia; and when my younger sister was born, again in the same house, Gottschee had become part of Italy. What had remained constant during that time was the spoken language -- Gottscheerisch.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 20:04:46 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, due hoscht Charles schon gueat aufgeklaeret, nueah muescht due ihn lei noech goettscheabarisch redn learn. bia geats Dir a noech, hoscht due noech viel Schnea atobn in Canada?
- 1Cust251.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Sunday, May 07, 2000 at 10:53:57 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, due hoscht Charles schon gueat aufgeklaeret, nueah muescht due ihn lei noech goettscheabarisch redn learn. bia geats Dir a noech, hoscht due noech viel Schnea atobn in Canada?
- 1Cust251.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Sunday, May 07, 2000 at 10:54:43 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz, I can assure you of one thing - speedreading in Gottscheerisch is not my forte - but it's fun! Yeah - we still have snow up here in Canada; with temperatures in the 80s and the humidex in the 90s, what else would you expect!?

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Sunday, May 07, 2000 at 14:03:34 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, I hon schon duech in 80 grad schie belt fuhren, i bet mi schie inpoken uend auef canada fuhren. tuey benigsten de schuene schain? shistan barots za cauld.
- 1Cust135.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Sunday, May 07, 2000 at 16:36:33 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Lei kam tue ben due billst, Franze, wir die scheinet de schuene b'stimmt tuech allei.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Sunday, May 07, 2000 at 16:43:37 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Just checking in a little bit early. Very hot in NJ and did not get to do any significant work outside.
- spider-wd043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 00:26:07 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello to everyone. Jim: You want to know hot? Fargo, ND was 98 on Thursday. They were all burning up. Normal Friday and Saturday-the 70's. Hope all are well tonight.
- KSCYB203-28.splitrock.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 00:56:36 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Must comment. My father, Leo Jonke, was also born before WWI, when Gottschee belonged to the Austro-Hungarian empire. He always called himself Austrian, not Yugoslav.
- KSCYB203-28.splitrock.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 00:59:03 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Margaret/Ridy--all of my grandfather and great-grandfather's papers say they are Austrian--from "Krine" (Krain).
- pool0333.cvx38-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:03:06 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Joe: My father's papers says Yugoslavia. He came to the US after the change from Austria to Yugoslavia. He never accepted that. I was told the language was only a spoken dialect, not a written language. ???
- KSCYB203-28.splitrock.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:08:42 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I guess everyone from the "language island" of Gottschee considered themselves as Austrian or German-Austrian.

- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:11:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It was interesting trying to read the conversation between Franz and Ridy. Only bits and pieces came through in my rusty and not trusty German.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:12:29 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello to everyone!
We had a very busy, but nice day. Our oldest granddaughter, Kayla, made her First Communion, followed by a family get-together.

- mod13.new-philly.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:17:55 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi everyone, gottscheer dialect is just one of many German Dialects. Even in the small now Austrian Nation, there are many different dialects. Gottscheer dialect is very, very close to the tyrolean dialect and also to the carinthian.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:17:58 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello everyone..I have been gone the last couple of Sunday nights.
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:18:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Greetings to Ed, Mary, and Franz.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:18:59 (GMT)
Ridy:
Guten Abend!
Nice to see that our discussion on our Austrian heritage caught your eyes. . . .

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:19:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, I lost your email address. I tried to send you a question but had the wrong address. I must have copied it down wrong.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:20:09 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
It caught my eye too. I was thinking of trying to print it all out.
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:20:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Dear Ridy, it was a very erudite discussion which stirred my genealogy passions into fever pitch.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:21:10 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there everyone,
I have also been gone from chat for a while.
re: Austrian-
When I told my mother in law that her birth record said "Orelia" instead of "Aurelia" she was stunned. She said she was sure her parents didn't know that!

- ashfnsi-32.suite224.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:21:26 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Ed & Mary, I tried to send You Walter Krakers address and phone #. However my server (MSN) insisted it could not find your match.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:21:38 (GMT)
Ridy:
Joe - Gottschee definitely was part of Austria - at least until some time after WWI when someone rearranged the map - which is usually what happens after a big war. . . The Gottscheers never considered themselves Yugolavian - -
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:22:02 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I found the link to the last side of my family. They are from the Koln, Germany area.
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:22:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am hitting a lull in my data inputting. I recently used the SSDI to try and locate Gottscheers who came to the United States. Those who emigrated to the US before WW II often had Social security numbers issued before 1951 and those who emigrated after the war had them issued in 1951 or afterwards.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:23:14 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
Congratulations on finding your link.

- ashfnsi-32.suite224.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:23:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello Holly. Welcome back to the chat room.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:24:40 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - you must have been having a slow day!
Holly - it never ceases to amaze me when I see how some of the names were spelled - I'm forever arguing with my aunts because they don't agree with the spelling on the records

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:24:53 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Thanks Holly...I was pretty excited. Also found a link to the Peschel in Ely Mn He was a shirttail relative.


- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:25:35 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Ridy--it's interesting to go through the parish records--in Altlag, you can see the change in the record books' headings from Latin to Slovene. The entries made by the priests remained in latin and German though, with the exception of the village names which went in most cases to Slovene. Those must have been very difficult times to live through.
- pool0333.cvx38-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:26:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
What is a shirt tail relative?
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:26:08 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, here it comes barbfrran@MSN.com. Should have been barbfranz, however that stupid clerk at BEST BUY.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:26:20 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
lolol He is a distant relative, not closely related.
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:26:48 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
I call that "pretty good detective work". So many times when you contact someone, they get leery. wonder what you really want.

- ashfnsi-32.suite224.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:27:17 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I guess the chance to maintain their Austrian/German heritage before WW II was very exciting only to be annexed to Italy during the war and then losing their 600 year homeland shortly thereafter.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:28:00 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: I thought shirt tail kin was a southern expression. It means a "near relative" one that's not closely related.
- KSCYB203-28.splitrock.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:28:20 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
On naturalization papers we found at our county courthouse, Ed's grandfather, John Kraker, stated in 1921 he was born in Krainer, Austria and renounced his allegiance "to Austria or any independent state within the bounds of the former Austro-Hungarian Empire. His great-uncle, Joe Kraker, listed in 1918 that his birthplace was Rothentein, Austria, and renounced allegiance to Charles, Emporer of Austria, and Apostolic King of Hungary.
- mod13.new-philly.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:28:20 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Someone searched the death records in Duluth for me, and the birth dates were the same as I had, so know it is the right one. It said in his birth record he went to Ely and there he was!
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:28:35 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,

I think Jim was just pulling your shirt. lolol

- ashfnsi-32.suite224.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:29:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I guess we are mostly shirt tail relatives in the chat room. Some of us share multiple shirt tails at the same times
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:30:23 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I also contacted a Peschel still in Ely but they were just friends, and not related to the one I was searching for.
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:30:33 (GMT)
Ridy:
From what I've learned, Joe, some places managed to avoid
changing from German to Slovenian; e.g., everything in the Ebental parish stayed German, although some of the names were given a Slovenian slant. But I'm talking pre-WWII, of course.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:31:07 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes I think we are all shirt-tail relatives!!!!
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:31:32 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
Are you sure about that. I find it very unusual that 2 Peschels in the same place?

- ashfnsi-32.suite224.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:31:51 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, denkesct due as Jim epos verstean kennoet?
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:32:16 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: That's what's so neat about the plauderzimmer. We find each other!
- KSCYB203-28.splitrock.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:32:27 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I did too, but when she wrote me, she said they were not related. Unless she does not me looking any farther.
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:32:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I recently posted a message on the bulletin board. It concerns surname variations like Peschl or Peschel and the like. If you can think of different variations, just post a dropping or drop a posting. It helps when searching the SSDI.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:32:54 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - w'leicht a pese, ubr et wiel
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:33:37 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Our name was also spelled Puschel in the records.
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:34:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, does Ridy think that I can understand some of it?
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:34:48 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
I think that is closer to the mark. Like I said before. some get soo leery. I had that problem with my family lines so I just switched to Gottschee.

- ashfnsi-32.suite224.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:34:51 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Perhaps a little but not all.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:35:23 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, do we have you going?
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:35:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly and Mary,
I found some people to be very giving when it comes to genealogy but others act the opposite way.

- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:36:21 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
She was supposed to have made the comment that she knew some things, but did not want to tell me cause she did not know me. And I wrote her a nice long letter telling her about my self and my research. But it did not help.
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:36:30 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Franz: Sorry you couldn't send us Walter Kraker's address, etc. Someone else had trouble earlier, also, but eventually got through. Our e-mail address is ekrock@clover.net. If you can't get through, try our daughter at jstein@tusco.net. Thanks for your help.
- mod13.new-philly.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:36:40 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
It seems easier to understand if you say it out loud...
- pool0333.cvx38-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:36:47 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - If you can understand it, you're a genius! I'm just
going by what it sounds like - don't have a real idea myself of how to spell it - but the good thing is, neither does anybody else! Well -- maybe one or two at best. . . . .

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:37:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz,
you are stretching my old German brain cells to the maximum to look at the words, remember my 24 year old college German and then figure out the Gottscheer twist.

- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:37:54 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I wish I could understand it!!!! I can pick out some words and that is it.
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:38:48 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Joe: My brother says he has to read German out loud before he can understand it. Now you said the same thing. Interesting!
- KSCYB203-28.splitrock.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:38:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Joe, that is easy for you to say since I can't pronounce it either.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:39:23 (GMT)
Ridy:
Now you sound like my husband, Jim. He's forever taking German words and working his way backwards into the Middle High German period and coming up with the right word in Gottscheerisch. It used to freak out my parents, as the kids say today. . . .
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:40:03 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary,
How sad. (I know the feeling)


- ashfnsi-32.suite224.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:40:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, you mean I could start writing stuff and declare it authentic Gottschearbarisch!! Ausgezeichnet !!!
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:40:21 (GMT)
Ridy:
Bet you could fool at least half of the people half of the time, Jim!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:41:38 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Mary/Holly: Memories are painful sometimes. My Tante Leni from NY gets so over wrought when she talks about "home" that she doesn't like to remember things like the war, etc.
- KSCYB203-28.splitrock.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:42:08 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, Jim ischt doech a genius, ar vrschteat doech a pese. Denkescht due as noech jemond buas vrschteat?
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:42:47 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Margaret,
I know my in-laws suffered very much thru the war years. He lost his home in Pommern and she lost Gottschee.

- ashfnsi-32.suite224.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:43:31 (GMT)
:
All I remember is my father "correcting" my pronunciation when I was taking college german--I used to drive the professor nuts with stuff like "acht, NINE, zehn!"
- pool0333.cvx38-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:43:42 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - the word is "gescheitr" not 'genius'!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:43:50 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes I have heard that comment before. Someone from the Plautz family here in town that I am trying to tie in, his family said the same thing. They wanted to forget the old county. And evidently my family was the same way cause we did not know anything about where they even came from.
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:44:34 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
would that be nine, nine, fral-line?
- ashfnsi-32.suite224.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:45:27 (GMT)
Ridy:
I think that nameless chatterer is Joe of the Hogler clan

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:45:46 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, racht hoscht due.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:45:58 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Yes,
I agree that alot of people said "that was the past, and best not to think about"

- ashfnsi-32.suite224.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:46:35 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Mary: My father's family loved America so much because they remembered the hard times in Gottschee. My father never wanted to talk about home nor wanted to go back to visit. I'm 2nd generation and it fascinates me! ROOTS
- KSCYB203-28.splitrock.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:47:02 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
nein, Holly--just a different way of saying neun!
- pool0333.cvx38-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:47:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, you are killing me. I will take a stab at it --- Jim is but a genius ( my wife tells me that all the time... not!!!!), and he understands all of Gottscheerbarisch (that is not what you wrote but I did not know what "ar" means). Do you thinks others understand as well.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:47:39 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
That was me--sorry!
- pool0333.cvx38-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:47:48 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Same here. I am trying to find out all I can about all sides of my family, and sometimes it is very difficult.
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:48:27 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Joe,
tooo funny. My husband always laughs at the way I slaughter English, let alone, when I try to use another language.

- ashfnsi-32.suite224.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:48:51 (GMT)
Ridy:
I can't wait to meet all of you clowns at the Gottscheer Treffen here in Toronto in September.... Get your reservations in!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:49:25 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, I have to be careful, you are darn good.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:49:27 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
This has been a super-fun night on the plauderzimmer, BUT must log off. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- KSCYB203-28.splitrock.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:50:10 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am already sorry I willnot be able to attend. Maybe the next one I can make.
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:50:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I hope gescheitr means clever and not what it could sound like.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:50:34 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
If anyone out there has any school pictures from Gottschee, please let me know, as I would like to put them on my site.
- ashfnsi-32.suite224.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:51:18 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Margaret, what's the hurry?
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:51:35 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - I'm laughing out loud!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:51:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Good night Margaret.
I think I also will say good-night. It's been lots of fun.
take care.

- ashfnsi-32.suite224.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:52:27 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, I thought that might tickle your funny bone. I was laughing as well when I read it.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:52:55 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy can attest to our lack of understanding of the German language. We meant to send her a nice Easter greeting we copied from a card, and instead, mistakenly wished her to be in a ditch on Easter! Sorry Ridy. We hope you had a very nice Easter. We do have a German dictionary we often refer to.
- mod13.new-philly.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:54:03 (GMT)
Ridy:
Holly - I'll send you a photo of a class in Ebental which my aunt gave me recently.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:54:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Margaret and Holly.

Franz and Ridy, Now I can not only butcher German but also a variant. On a serious note, it has only been recently that I have begun to understand the inhomogeneity of German. I always thought that one area of Germany spoke the same as another area.

- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:55:10 (GMT)
Ridy:
Ed and Mary - you know I enjoyed that greeting very much!
Laughter is the best medicine, right Jim?!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:55:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Humor goes a long way. It is often a breath of fresh air when things are murky.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:56:30 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
I need to go to--my daughter just got home from her gymnastics meet in LA--all have a good week!
- pool0333.cvx38-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:57:16 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - they all write High German, but the various dialects can be really different. . . . and then there are the Swiss German dialects!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:57:49 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good to hear from you again, Joe! Take care.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:58:18 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Good night everyone, enjoyed!!!
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:58:19 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, as I told you my cousin Johann Kraker lives in Germany, near Trier and the belgium boarder. When thy speak their local dialect, believe me I don't understand a single word. That's how confusing the german language can be.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:59:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night Joe and Mary. Have a good week.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 01:59:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I get email messages from the Bavarian site and there are often conversations about the differences between spoken Bavarian and other German dialects. Some of the posters consider themselves Bavarian first and German second. A part of my father's side came from Bavaria.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:01:08 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ed and Mary, looks like Ridy made it out of the ditch OK.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:01:39 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, the Bavarians and Berliners think they are from a different german country.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:03:17 (GMT)
Ridy:
Has everyone left? I only skipped out for a couple of minutes to turn off the soup!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:03:20 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Hello Gottscheers: I am of the Thellian, Samide, Stonitsch, Kump and other families. This is my first time in plauderzimmer, and I'd like to make contact. Is anyone here? Is this real time chat? If anyone out there is interested in these families, my email address is babogs@shawneelink.com. I hope to hear from you, Lynn
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:03:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I wish my parents knew how to speak German. I only picked up a word here and there at home and neither of them were fluent. Besides one would have spoken Gottscheer and the other Bavarian. How confusing!!
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:04:09 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Lynn: Welcome to the Plauderzimmer. We usually chat on Sunday evenings between 9 and 10 p.m. (Eastern) but we sometimes drop in during the week as well.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:05:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Lynn. This is the usual time. The chat room starts at 9 pm EST. Some days it goes well and others it is slow. Tonight has been pretty snappy.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:05:28 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
I think I came in too late! Please excuse this and tell me what time to try next week, OK? My email address is below.
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:05:47 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, why didn't you tell us the soup was on? I culdn't smell it. was it Huehnersuppe?
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:05:49 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Oh HELLO you are there then! I will stay for a while.
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:06:27 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Lynn, did you get the messages we posted? Maybe they aren't coming through.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:07:05 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Franz: Yes we're happy Ridy made it through Easter OK. Our kids got a big kick out of our miscue when we told them! We meant well, and afterall, it's the thought that counts. Glad you enjoyed our message, Ridy, even though it was a bit incorrect!
- mod13.new-philly.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:07:13 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Welcome Lynn.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:07:21 (GMT)
Ridy:
Yes Franz - and I keep telling myself that one of these days I'll make augezogene Knellein to put in it....
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:07:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Soup ---- what time is it there? I will try to catch the next plane up there. Clear off the snow in the wild north!!
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:08:03 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
I have Agnette, Gertraud, Johan and Maria Mausser in my family tree. I say this for the benefit of Herr Mausser in here now, Lynn
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:08:29 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Lynn, shawnee sounds like Kansas. Nicht wahr.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:08:58 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, Knellein........ I will take the first plane , of course only if you invite me. How about a erpfelzautle?
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:09:42 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Wow I'm getting hungry with all this talk of homemade soup!
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:09:57 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Lynn, have all those surnames in my file. Did your ancestors come from Nesseltal, Pollandl, Tschermoschnitz or the Altlag/Unterwarmberg areas?
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:10:04 (GMT)
Ridy:
No rush, Jim....it's going into the freezer. Speaking of snow up here in the wild north, I was pleasantly surprised to see that your trees and flowers are about ten days ahead of us up here. . . we still have magnolias in bloom, as well as forsythia, while yours seem to be fading fast.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:10:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz and Ridy, can you give a brief description of those dishes. My wife tried to buy me the cookbook of Gottscheer dishes but they never sent it.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:11:06 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
shawnee in my case means the SHAWNEE NATL FOREST in Southern Illinois. On a map it is almost the very center of U.S.
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:11:21 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, the forsythias are done but my magnolia tree/bush stil has nice blossoms on them and the azalias have just come out.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:12:14 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, I will let Ridy have the honors to describe it. Whenever I visit my sister in Austria, those are the first dishes without asking.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:13:17 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Jim: Many of my ancestors came from Nesseltal,
Pollandl, Tschermoschnitz and Altlag/Unterwarmberg. Do you have Samide, Thellian, and Goestel also?

- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:13:54 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - are you talking about Albert Belay's book "Hoimischai Khoescht"? I think there are still some available
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:14:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Well so much for an uneducated guess about Shawnee. Welcome on board.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:14:30 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
I am getting messages, but my system must have lag.
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:14:56 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Jim -- Will you please write to me on email some time later to discuss possible family connections? Maybe we can exchange some information? I will need to go away in a a few minutes now.
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:17:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Samide, Thellian -- quite a few. Goestl only a couple. I just printed out a list of those Gottscheers in my file with a connection to Illinois but only a few with those names. Still I might have some information about your ancestors if you can send some names and dates. My email is DocH301454@aol.com.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:17:55 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am checking back in....Is that cookbook in German or English?
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:17:56 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, that is the book. I may try to get it again. I would love to try and make some home cooked meals. Does it have a recipe for Gottscheer pizza? I love pizza.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:18:46 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Mary, how is the west doing?
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:19:23 (GMT)
Ridy:
Earpfltsautle is a potato pancake which I don't know how to make -
Ausgezognei Knellein is very much like a Strudel dough but I only put butter on the dough with some finely minced chives before it's rolled up tight, and then it's boiled in the soup and sliced up before it's served. That's a very poor description, but it's past my bedtime.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:20:22 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Jim -- Will you please write to me on email some time later to discuss possible family connections? Maybe we can exchange some information? I will need to go away in a a few minutes now.
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:20:27 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Franz It was pretty warm here today, but we have a nice cool breeze this evening
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:20:38 (GMT)
Ridy:
Lynn - do you know the Goestls in Kitchener? Rudy Holl used to be on the Plauderzimmer and his mother is a Goestl
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:21:35 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Jim -- Guess what: Holly Droese says "You are a 6th cousin once removed to Jim Heimann"! I'd like to know how though! I do hope we can be in touch....
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:21:44 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, wrong, Erpflezautle is far from a potatopankake.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:21:54 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ok guys is the cookbook in German????
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:23:23 (GMT)
Ridy:
Mary - the cookbook I'm talking about is bilingual - english and german. It's great!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:23:36 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have a German friend who could help me read it if it is? I would like to buy it too...
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:24:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Lynn, I will try to drop you a line. I can probably come up with the link when I get more information. Some Kumps came to Illinois and changed their name to Komp. I have Kump, Thellian, Samide, Mausser in my tree as well as quite a few others. Holly knows her stuff and we are "shirt tail" cousins as Mary Thurman would say.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:24:14 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy would you email me how to get it
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:24:45 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Rudy Holl is my third cousin but I have never met him! Do any of you know his email address or his Mom's name? I would really like to be in touch with him. This pladerzimmer is great.
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:24:48 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Rudy Holl is my third cousin but I have never met him! Do any of you know his email address or his Mom's name? I would really like to be in touch with him. This pladerzimmer is great.
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:24:52 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Lynn, I don't know how but it seems like we are all cousins of Jim. I am honored to be a cousin of Jim Heimann.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:25:03 (GMT)
Ridy:
Well, there you go, Franz - I knew you'd catch me bluffing sooner or later. . .
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:26:00 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
We are one big happy family right?
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:26:21 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Rudy Holl is my third cousin but I have never met him! Do any of you know his email address or his Mom's name? I would really like to be in touch with him. This pladerzimmer is great.
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:26:30 (GMT)
Ridy:
Lynn - Rudy's mother's name is Emma - I'll look up his e-mail address and send it to you.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:27:13 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, it is better sooner.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:27:15 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Sorry for sending the same message thrice ... I don't know how it happened. Sorry to litter!
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:27:26 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy could you email me how to get the cookbook?
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:28:09 (GMT)
Ridy:
Lynn - post your e-mail address again, please, I can't find it anymore. Mine is ridy@home.com
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:28:41 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
I would like to buy that cookbook, too. My Mom is 75 and 100% Gottscheer. I'd love to surprise her with some of the old dishes.
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:29:15 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Ridy thanks for offering to send me that email address.
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:29:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, I think I am related to quite a few by virtue of my Gottscheer ancestors coming from the Altlag/Unterwarmberg/Ebnental area along with Pollandl/Tschermoschnitz regions. It seems as if many of the Gottscheers who came to the United States came from certain areas. The honor, however, is mine to be sure.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:29:42 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
I just sent email to ridy!
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:31:13 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, it really is amazing. I bought this computer as a Christmas Present for my wife. and here I am chattind with a cousin I did not know befor.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:32:49 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
I must go away now, Gottscheers, but I will try to connect with you again. Here is my email address again in case it is now lost in cyberspace: babogs@shawneelink.com. Best wishes to you all, Lynn
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:33:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Rudy is also my sixth cousin but I haven't had time to figure out where. Ridy, how do you know Rudy? There was only one Hogler relative in his kinship chart and I think he got lost and wandered onto the wrong page.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:33:15 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Oh Thanks Ridy just got your email. Didnt mean to be impatient, just wanted you to answer me. and send it later..So thanks a bunch.
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:33:18 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
I must go away now, Gottscheers, but I will try to connect with you again. Here is my email address again in case it is now lost in cyberspace: babogs@shawneelink.com. Best wishes to you all, Lynn
- ilrscl38.shawneelink.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:36:13 (GMT)
Ridy:
I don't actually know Rudy personally - I know his mother. .
we all lived in Kitchener, which is just west of Toronto.
I met Rudy in the Plauderzimmer a while back.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:36:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, the internet has been wonderful. I have met some very nice people and learned more than I ever hoped for about my homeland. I will get there one day. It sounds beautiful to visit although day to day life was not an easy thing for our ancestors.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:37:40 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I agree. I don'think I would of found the link to Gottschee without the internet.
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:39:10 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, I never asked. I have a cousin by the name of Addi Schmid who lives in Brampton. You probably never heard that name.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:39:32 (GMT)
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- ashfnsi-32.suite224.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:40:03 (GMT)
Ridy:
I don't think a day goes by that I don't wish that my parents and my brother were still alive to see how much there is about Gottschee on the Internet, and the people I meet in cyberspace.... It's simply fantabulous!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:41:35 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, I have limited memories. you are right, life was not easy. However, it seems people were happy.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:41:48 (GMT)
Ridy:
No, I haven't bumped into Addi, but I don't get out much and I really don't know any other Gottscheers in Toronto. Maybe the Treffen will change that.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:43:22 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
We too, were amazed when our daughter found someone who was researching the Kraker surname on the Internet and led to us learning about Ed's Gottscheer heritage. We enjoy participating in the Chat, also, and have had so much fun meeting other Gottscheers.
- mod13.new-philly.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:43:51 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
There are those in the Gottscheer community who are doing research on Gottscheer genealogy but are not connected. It is such a great tool for disseminating information. My mom doesn't even use the microwave that we gave her so a computer is out of the question.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:44:38 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ed and Mary, is both of your heritage Gottsheer? just wondering.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:45:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The videotape was an amazing thing as well. Little did the priest know that he was making a visual record of a life that was soon to disappear along with many of the towns. When I get to Gottscheer, I want to visit all the towns. Even those that were destroyed. I wonder what could be learned. If I ever come back in another life, archealogy would be high on my wish list for a career. (If I really get to dreaming, it would be underwater archealogy).
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:47:58 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - it's definitely a generation thing - I have friends my own age who won't even use an answering machine, let alone a microwave or a computer.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:49:51 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
That amazes me --- most people in their forties don't have a problem with computers.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:51:31 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Franz: No, Ed is the Gottscheer, and I'm the Gottscheer "wannabe." Like Holly, I think learning about it is all very interesting. What's so amazing is that his family didn't seem to know anything about their heritage. Ed laughs about once thinking he might be Italian, like most of the other families in the coal mining community where his family lived.
- mod13.new-philly.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:52:39 (GMT)
Ridy:
You must be trying to get back to Atlantis, Jim!
I sent the video to two distant relatives in Europe, and to say that they were overjoyed would be an understatement. It's just so unexpected and so very, very good.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:52:40 (GMT)
Ridy:
I'll ignore that, Jim
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:53:29 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
We have cool mining here and Italians also
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:54:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, when did you come to America? You seem to have a lot of relatives on the other side. What caused some to stay and some to go? Are you in Illinois?
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:54:27 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
i meant coal mining lolololo
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:54:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It might have been cool mining in the fall and winter.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:55:32 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
ya
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:55:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, ignoring me again. Lucky I don't take offense easily. It is my easy going personality (triple A, I think).
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:56:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ya sure.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:56:54 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
To all my new friends out there, I wish you all a Good Night and a pleasant and joyfilled week. Guetei Nocht.
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:57:02 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
good night everyone it has been fun
- spider-th073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:58:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, Guten Abend from the Bavarian Gottscheer from Brooklyn, the cradle of civilization.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:58:31 (GMT)
Ridy:
G'nite from me too -- it's been fun, and now it's past my bedtime.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:58:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night again to you Mary.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:58:56 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Our friend, Eric Kraker of Cleveland, ordered the video and was so happy because his mother was featured several times, along with an aunt, an uncle and he thinks one man was his father. He told us he has just about worn out the video. ca andir
- mod13.new-philly.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:59:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Okay, guys we can talk about them now that they are gone.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 02:59:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Oh, you mean they can read it later on. I guess that means I should sign off as well. Goodnight Ridy, Ed & Mary.
- spider-wn074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 03:00:43 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Time to turn in. Goodnight to all!
- mod13.new-philly.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 03:01:35 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, I came in 1959, spent one week in Ridgewood with my uncle and took the train to Chicago. Why? who knows. Wanderlust? limited opportunities in those days in Austria. Dreaming of the distant world. What's out there? What am I missing? These were all questions I was asking. With hard work I have achieved what I could not have achieved back there. At times I ask the same questions. why did I leave?
- 1Cust106.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 03:04:22 (GMT)
Charles:
Franz, I was born and raised in Chicago, my father came to Chicago from Gottschee. I assume that you lived in Gottschee county.....are you familiar with other parts of southwestern Slovenia ourside of Gottschee, perhaps on side
trips? This is known as Skocjan Cave country. E-mail
merkelz@eden.com if you prefer.

- sa1-53.ConnectI.com - Monday, May 08, 2000 at 18:52:42 (GMT)
Franz:
Charles, where do you live now? No I am not familiar with other parts of Slovenia. In 1941 we were resettled to th eastern part of Slovenia where we lived untill 1945. Two years ago I made a brief trip to Europe and made also a very short side trip to Gottschee, one afternoon precisely.
- 1Cust229.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Saturday, May 13, 2000 at 10:45:23 (GMT)
Charles:
Franz, my wife & I live in San Antonio, Texas. I am 78 yrs old,...... will run on a relay team in a marathon in Corpus Christi, Tx next Saturday (4.4 mi. ea.). We have 5 offspring. The family name is Merkelz...Merkelc...Markelc.
- sa2-77.ConnectI.com - Saturday, May 13, 2000 at 16:21:13 (GMT)
Mary Frances Klupar:
I hope to join the group. My husband was the son of George Joseph Klupar born Oct 26, 1902. Chicago Illinois son of Jacob Klupar and Margaret .James born )oct 15,1930. had 5 sons Karl, June 10, 1955, Peter,Feb16,1957, James July23,1958 John Sept.28 1963 and George Joseph June 14,1969. There are 15 grandchildren
- 1Cust143.tnt1.washington.dc.da.uu.net - Sunday, May 14, 2000 at 03:27:56 (GMT)
Franz:
Happy Mothersday.
- 1Cust195.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Sunday, May 14, 2000 at 11:46:33 (GMT)
Franz:
Happy Mothersday.
- 1Cust195.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Sunday, May 14, 2000 at 11:46:44 (GMT)
Charles:
Mary Frances Klupar, my grandmother (Sophia) and your husbands grandmother (Margaret) were sisters. So I guess we are cousins of a sort. There were four Kapsch sisters. One of the Klupars, I forgot which one, was the founder of the GHGA. I remember John and his wife in Chicago when I was young.....he had a terrific model train set-up in his attic.
- sa2-90.ConnectI.com - Sunday, May 14, 2000 at 19:05:57 (GMT)
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- lsanca1-ar8-069-159.biz.dsl.gtei.net - Sunday, May 14, 2000 at 23:32:32 (GMT)
Mary Frances Klupar:
The originator of the GHGA was my husband Jim. He died in 1992, April 28. His Dad George Joseph , and his mother Marian both died in Arizona in 1983. Yes they all loved train set ups I still have Jims from the Chicago worlds fair. I have finally started becoming computer literate so I hope to drop in often. Mf
- 1Cust64.tnt4.phoenix2.az.da.uu.net - Sunday, May 14, 2000 at 23:40:40 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, All! Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there. Hope you had a nice day. What's up for tonight? Eddie, are you on? Been missing you.
- KSCYA010-0775.splitrock.net - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:14:31 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Real slow tonight. Guess I will sign off and do some much-needed work around the house. Gute nacht und alles gute.
- KSCYA010-0775.splitrock.net - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:19:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:24:56 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello everyone. Happy Mother's Day to all.
- spider-th033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:27:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Looks slow. Good Mother's day in this locale. Will check the sports and lament the Laker's loss but will come back shortly.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:27:30 (GMT)
Charles:
Hi Jim, long time no see, how are things with you this fine evening?
- sa2-87.ConnectI.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:27:39 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello everyone! Hope all the moms had a happy day.
- mod18.new-philly.net - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:28:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello again. Everything is fine. Nice weather. Good dinner. Should have had more plants on hand because it was a good day to putter around the garden.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:32:17 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Nice weather here too. We worked ourside all weekend.
- spider-th033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:34:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Still have more to do. Time for the impatiens. Just ripped out some old juniper and will replace it with a combination of hostas and impatiens. Hostas will come back every year and the impatiens will give summertime color.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:36:17 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Charles, how is the running going? I am just about retired from competitive basketball. The spirit is willing but the knees are shot.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:37:21 (GMT)
Charles:
Jim, Last month I told friends, quoting Geronimo, that I would run no more forever. But......last week I was drafted into a team for the Corpus Christi Relay Marathon. It's a team of six in their 70's (Im 78). It's 4.4 mi each leg. It should be fun because there are 6000 registered and I have the causeway leg, with water on both sides and the gulf wind behind. I ran the distance this morning, so I should be ready.
- sa2-87.ConnectI.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:43:41 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
We are getting ready to have a new driveway put in.
- spider-th033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:44:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Charles, much respect that your wheels can take it.

Mary, houses always need something. Our front walk needs repair and I am sure the driveway will be replaced in the next few years.

- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:47:47 (GMT)
Charles:
Jim, I'm surprised that you remembered me. I've been off the chat line for almost a year.
- sa2-87.ConnectI.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:48:15 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good evening, everybody!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:49:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Charles, my knees are rusty but the brain works well. Merkelc is an easy name to remember and you had written about running in the past. Where have you been?
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:52:57 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Ridy, hope you had a nice day.
Did anyone do something especially nice or unusual to honor their mother or wife today? No one forgot, did they???

- mod18.new-philly.net - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:53:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Happy Mom's Day again, Ridy.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:53:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Would never forget!!! Nothing unusual - flowers, candy, gifts, dinner at a restaurant. I did take down the swing set in the back while she was out as a surprise.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:55:32 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Thanks Jim!
Yes, I had a lovely day -- no guests! Just my husband and our cat to cook for dinner, which was a real treat after six weeks of houseguests. But I spent a lot of time on the phone with the kids and my sisters and a bunch of the cousins. I even had a nap! That's about my speed now!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 01:59:21 (GMT)
Jim:
Ridy, sounds good.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:01:14 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Mary K - how did you celebrate the day?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:02:12 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Sounds as though Mrs. Heimann had a great day!
Ed is still playing basketball with a church group during the winter months. Sometimes our teenage grandsons go, too, and everyone got a laugh one night when one grandson was waving his hands for Ed to pass the ball to him and yelling, "Grampa, Grampa!






gshoti ok. r.

- mod18.new-philly.net - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:03:59 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I was just thinking back over the years and I can't remember celebrating Mother's Day in Gottschee - I was really too young to remember - but in Graz we gave flowers.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:04:36 (GMT)
Jim:
Way to go on the basketball. Inside game or outside. Outside is so nice on a day like today.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:05:31 (GMT)
Jim:
Isn't Mother's Day an American invention. If I don't remember correctly, the day was only officially set aside in the late 1800's to early 1900's. Before that, I believe everyday was Mother's Day.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:07:04 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Mother's Day is definitely an American invention, and it got it's start in the early part of this past century. But it spread to Europe rather quickly and Muttertag is a big day over there as well. However, I firmly believe that every day is Mother's Day!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:11:07 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Nice thought Jim, that everyday is Mother's Day. Except it meant work everyday!!!!
- spider-th033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:11:23 (GMT)
Charles:
Jim, I backed off on geneology for a while. Actually, the name Merkelc(z) is limited to my family only, in this country and in Slovenia. However, there are lots of Markelc(z) in this country and in Slovenia with ties to Austrian lineage. I'm convinced that the priest goofed in the spelling, Merkelc is pronounced 'Mare'kelz in German. Sound reasonable?
- sa2-87.ConnectI.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:12:05 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy from Mary: Our kids took us out for dinner last night for a combination retirement/Mother's Day party. It was a lot of fun and now I will be leading a life of leisure, sort of.
To Jim from Ed: We play in a middle school gym every Tuesday night for two hours in a town north of us. So far the knees are holding up!

- mod18.new-philly.net - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:13:11 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Mary - do I remember correctly that you are a writer?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:15:31 (GMT)
Jim:
checked the Merkelz spelling on the SSDI- only a handful with ties to Chicago and probably all your relatives. No Merkelc listed. Did not check the other spellings.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:17:13 (GMT)
Jim:
Ed, bless those knees. I blew out my anterior cruciate ligament and had it repaired. Played some more but the knees are cranky.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:18:50 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Yes, I worked at two newspapers in our county for the past 30 years. I'm still going to do a little writing, but I won't have to go to work everyday. Hooray!
Ridy, are you a writer too? Your story in the Gottschee Tree on St. Nicholas was so good and you always keep things lively on the Chat.

- mod18.new-philly.net - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:19:24 (GMT)
Jim:
Congratulations on the retirement. Teri, sent an email about it.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:20:29 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I think it would be a bit of a stretch to say that I'm a writer - I'm a writer wanna-be! The closest I came was being in charge of our Opera magazine for a couple of years and writing the odd story here and there.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:24:23 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Thanks Jim. I guess Teri thought she had to spread it around!
Ed says someone is always having knee and ankle problems at basketball, but he's been fortunate. He had bursitis in both shoulders a few years ago, but hasn't had any more problems with it since he started playing basketball!

- mod18.new-philly.net - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:29:31 (GMT)
Jim:
Ed, continued good luck.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:31:32 (GMT)
Jim:
Time to sign off. Enjoy the rest of the evening. Have a good week. Hope to get some flowers in and bike off some of today's calories.
- spider-wc014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:34:04 (GMT)
Charles:
Jim, in Slovenia, (Gottshee), the "z" becomes "c". The Markelz in this country were also Markelc over there. I can't prove my point, Merkelc vs Markelc because parish records that far back are not legible.
- sa2-87.ConnectI.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:34:40 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy: Is the Opera Magazine like in "Phantom of the Opera?" I would say you are a writer - and not a "wanna-be."
- mod18.new-philly.net - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:35:47 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
It was volunteer work - so it doesn't really count, does it. But not quite like in "Phantom" - it was for the Canadian Opera Company.....
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:38:28 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy: Sounds like a pretty important job to us!
- mod18.new-philly.net - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:41:19 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Thanks - it was a lot of fun and a great learning experience for me.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:42:00 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight everyone! Want to catch the sports on TV.
- mod18.new-philly.net - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:48:21 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Anyone still here?

- lsanca1-ar8-071-108.biz.dsl.gtei.net - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:55:20 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Guess not--sorry I missed everyone!
- lsanca1-ar8-071-108.biz.dsl.gtei.net - Monday, May 15, 2000 at 02:56:38 (GMT)
Lillian Samide Strenk:
Mary Mazzoni:
Check your email, I sent you pictures of Matt from Australia. -Mom

- pm1-54.clv.multiverse.net - Sunday, May 21, 2000 at 22:56:24 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Many Gottscheers know Pater Anton Fink. He spent many years in the Vatican. Those of you who have been lucky enough to be on one of his tours of the treasures of the Vatican will remember him as an extremely knowledgeable teacher and art historian. He was also a huge opera fan.
His hours here on earth are numbered and I'm sure he would appreciate to be remembered in your prayers.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 00:26:27 (GMT)
Julia Knaus:
Lookink for my cuosin Maria Pospischil son Andy Troha in
upstate NY he is a teacher

- spider-te011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 00:54:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
good evening
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:17:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have a question about the naming and numbers of the houses in the different towns. I understand "Komutzen #9" and so forth but the word names for houses confuse me. Can someone explain how the houses got their names?
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:19:49 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Jim!
We finally had some reasonably good weather and I got some
gardening done today. Not warm, but comfortable. And no rain for a change.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:20:29 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Ridy. Still circling the field as far as outside work is concerned. Still raining and cool. Things need to dry out for a couple of days before I restart putting things in.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:22:03 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Oh, I hope somebody comes up with an answer to your question, Jim. I've wondered about that for years and years.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:22:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have been doing some follow up emailing to people that I had sent family tree information in the past. Did your relatives ever mention their trees?
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:24:24 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Sonja did - she passed it on to her father; Peter has been silent.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:25:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Nothing since from Sonja. Any corrections? I hope they found it accurate and helpful.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:28:04 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I'm hoping to see some of the relatives at a family gathering this coming Friday and I'll try to remember to ask about it then.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:30:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Vielen dank.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:31:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The board is slow tonight. I wonder what is on the Learning or History channels. Perhaps it is Regis and who wants to be a millionaire.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:33:01 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Come to think of it, it's been months since I asked for up-to-date information for my family tree and so far I've had zero response. I shall take my notebook!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:34:23 (GMT)
Franz:
Hello, Ridy and Jim. I finally made it. How are you all? Bia giats Ridy?
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:36:30 (GMT)
:
Wie gehts, Franz.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:38:25 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello everyone. It has been cool and rainy here in Ohio, also. Ridy: We were wondering if you and Joe Hogler, who sometimes is on the Chat, are related?
- mod5.new-philly.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:38:45 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Hi all
- lsanca1-ar8-068-116.biz.dsl.gtei.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:39:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
oops that was me. I was posting a message or two on the bulletin board. Hopefully, I will get some enlightenment.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:39:19 (GMT)
Franz:
Talk about millionairs. The guys who got the second half of the Big Game, 183 stinking millions, live about 2 miles from me. I guess I bought my tickets at the wrong place.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:39:25 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Give it time - some may yet arrive.
Or maybe they've all run to their reference books to come up with an answer to your question! I do wish somebody could come up with a good answer. My mother's parents, whose name was Mausser, were known as Bömasch, and our home was known as Wüksch'sch - at least I know that means "Fox's" but I don't know what Bömasch meant.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:39:44 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello Ed and Mary.
Ridy, have you ever made the link? I think Joe's Hoglers moved out before my records start.

- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:40:22 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Ed & mary--not sure how Ridy & I are related
Good evening, everyone!

- lsanca1-ar8-068-116.biz.dsl.gtei.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:40:35 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, to think I may have had a long lost cousin with oodles of dollars.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:41:30 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Jim--my line moved out before 1800, but other relatives stayed there in #4 and #14
- lsanca1-ar8-068-116.biz.dsl.gtei.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:41:33 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, just think.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:42:27 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Joe. You must be but we have to dig a little deeper and further back in the Altlag records to come up with it.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:42:38 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz, mir gähts güat. . .
Ed and Mary - Joe and I haven't found the link yet, but he traces his roots back to #1 Kukendorf, and I was born in that house! Somewhere, back in time, I'm sure we're related. If we ever find out for certain, I shall ask to be taken up in one of those rockets!

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:43:28 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Ridy--you don't have to wait for that. Just let me know when you want to go!
- lsanca1-ar8-068-116.biz.dsl.gtei.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:44:20 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Joe. . .
we'll, I've been telling Christopher that it takes too long by commercial flights between to Toronto and London. . . .

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:45:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Joe, was that Kukendorf 4 & 14?
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:46:21 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Ok, Jim--now you're going to make me look--hang on!
- lsanca1-ar8-068-116.biz.dsl.gtei.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:46:52 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, hopp on the Concord.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:47:04 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz - the Concord does not come to Toronto -- too noisy!
I'd have to catch it in New York. . . .

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:48:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Sorry, Entschuldigen sie sich, bitte.
Ridy's ancestors have Kukendorf 1,11,16,3,7,8 listed. I have 4 & 13 for you.

- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:48:56 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Someone told us or we read somewhere that the house names originated from the first owners of the house. But Ed says its probably more complicated than that.
Ridy: Are you related to Franz? He and Ed are related several different ways.

- mod5.new-philly.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:49:03 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
From what I know, which is only what Jim and Franz have told me, Franz and I are not related. But I'm related to everyone else, it seems.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:51:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
As far as my records go, Ridy not yet with Franz. My records are not the bible so it still may be so.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:53:01 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ed & Mary, I have heard something similar in the past about the house naming.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:53:46 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Jim--My earliest record is Andreas and Margaretha (Petsche) Hogler--both died in K#1 (no record showing birth). Here's how I think it went--Andreas was originally form K#4. His children were all born in K#4. His first son, Mathias, married Agneta Hogler of K#1. I believe that somwhow, the parents ended up living out their days in K#1. But it's not clear why, and it's not clear who ended up with K#4.
- lsanca1-ar8-068-116.biz.dsl.gtei.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:53:59 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Regarding the house names - I don't think that's the case.
It would seem, logically, that it should be that, but some of the name of houses were so far off the wall they would never have been the names of owners. Some describe the work which the original owners may have been engaged in, but beyond that it's a puzzle to me.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:54:02 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, when you left the Untersteiermark in 1945 did you come to Graz and stay in Graz? We came to Graz and were sent to Wagna bei Leibnitz.There we were kept in a detention camp by the Britts. I ran across a picture of our claas in the camp. There were almost only Gottscheers.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:54:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Joe, I have that as well. Maybe the link is further back than the parish records cover.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:57:06 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
Jim-K#14 was Gliebe--one my ancestors married into that family.
- lsanca1-ar8-068-116.biz.dsl.gtei.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:58:50 (GMT)
Joe Hogler:
We'll, have to go--nice chatting with you all!
- lsanca1-ar8-068-116.biz.dsl.gtei.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 01:59:43 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Joe, have a good night.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:00:09 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz - yes, we went from Puschendorf in Untersteiermark to Graz. The train we were on went back down, which my father somehow figured out, so we simply got off the train and then asked for refuge at a place my parents knew. We stayed there until 1948, when we came to Canada. We were never in a camp. Lucky us! Of course, it was pretty difficult for father, he ended up trying to provide for my mother's parents, several of her sisters and their children - 28 people in all! And we were sharing the house with the Russians since Graz was originally occupied by the Russians. But they were actually quite kind to us.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:02:18 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good night Joe!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:02:54 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, good for you. I thought you might have been on that photo. We left the camp in 1946 for Graz, were we stayed till 1948.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:05:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy & Franz,
How did people get released from the camps? Did they have to provide a destination? When did the camps close? How did people choose their next place - Germany, Austria, Canada, United States, Paraguay, etc.,. ?

- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:08:25 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz - who knows - our paths may have crossed at some point during the time we both lived there.....Maybe skating on the Hilmteich, or on the Schloßberg, or at Maria Trost?! I went to the Ursulinenkloster, and my brother attended the Lichtenfels Gymnasium
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:09:28 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, are you still with us? Did you get all your gardening done? We had a terrible haistorm on thursday. What a mess. Had alot of clean-up. My fragile vegetables got hit hard.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:10:39 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I think people just left the camps when they had a place to go to, and some means of supporting themselves. Isn't that right, Franz?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:13:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, held off on the gardening when I saw the weather report. I did not want to put the impatiens in the ground with all the dank weather coming.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:15:00 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, long story. My father was kept by the partisans in a terrible labor camp. Not to many survived. He contracted typhus and was released to Graz in 1946. He had a cousin who left Gottschee before the resettlement for Graz. He looked daily for relatives and checked also the hospital where he found my father. Then he found out somehow where we were. He claimed us from the camp. I don't know how. That is how we came the second time to Graz.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:17:52 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz - was that Sternthal ?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:19:51 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Those relatives who set out to the other areas seem to be lifesavers. Their presence allowed emigration of others to a place where they at least knew somebody or had a relative already there.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:20:43 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, yes it was Sterntal. So you know about it too.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:21:54 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Those of us who had relatives over here really had quite an advantage. We started to get parcels with clothing and food soon after the War ended, and what we didn't have to have ourselves we used to barter for food we needed. Gottscheers are very, very generous.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:24:23 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
Hi all!
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:26:06 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Jim: How long have you been interested in genealogy and what got you started? Have you always known you were Gottscheer?
- mod5.new-philly.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:26:28 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Oh yes - I know about Sternthal. I had an aunt who was held there - unfortunately she was very beautiful and she suffered the consequences. Her son, who was a young child at the time, was taken from her and sent to a so-called Red Cross camp for children. Most of them died of starvation, disease and neglect. When he was returned to her, she didn't recognize him until he called her 'Mama' - he was so neglected. She died several years ago, and he, sadly, died three weeks ago.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:27:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
There must have been a great sense of community. Interesting people --- seemingly very insular and protective of their towns but willing to get together in the US and elsewhere to send aid back to those in need. I guess that sense of community is fading as we are assimilated. (I was assimilated before I knew anything about Gottschee. I guess I am going about this backwards.)
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:28:03 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Tom! Long time no hear!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:28:25 (GMT)
Franz:
Hi, Ed and Mary, got you r message that you finally received Walter's info. I had in mind to call him myself, never got around to do it.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:29:10 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Jim - you may be going about it backwards, but in truth you are leading us to find out more about ourselves!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:29:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Tom.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:30:32 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, you are doing a credible job.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:30:55 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
Yes, its been a while.
My grandparents were also in Sterntal. As you know, its
only one of a number of Partisan concentration camps.
Grandparents and aunts on my mothers side died in one.
Gottschee, the Resettlement years gives a first hand account of the horrors that were there

- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:31:08 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, just being inquisitive. I look at things and try to view it from different angles.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:31:15 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Jim- One of my cousins came over first. He had 2 Aunts living in Queens and a Grand Aunt (my grandmother) living
here. He was in his early 20's and his younger brother and sister followed shortly. The rest of the family remained in
Graz.More siblings followed some yeasrs later as they got a little older. Only one the parents and one brother re -mained in Graz. The first came in 1949 or 1950 I think.
Their uncle nd his whole family came a few years later pro-
ably 1952 and lived on Senaca Avenue in Ridgewood when they
first came here. I guess people came to where they had close
family. So in a way it was good that previous generations
had immigrated ,because at least people had some family to come to.

- dialup-209.246.65.101.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:31:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Is there any listing of those who died during that time period? I seem to remember something about a monument in Graz dedicated to those who died during? or after the war. Does anyone know of this monument?
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:33:13 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I think Sterntal was always considered the worst of them, Tom, but it was only a matter of degrees. They were all hellholes and murder camps, really. The ones which were established in Austria for refugees were totally different, of course.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:33:33 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Franz: Thanks for the info and Ed is working on a letter to send to Walter. We're happy to learn of more relatives. Ed was really surprised to learn his grandmother had so many relatives in Europe. She came to U.S. around 1900.
By the way, Ed wants you to know he is the Gottscheer and I am just the typist! He is now up to three words per minute!o s

- mod5.new-philly.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:34:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
John, used to go to a butcher in that area. Was there one on the corner of Gates and Seneca? It had to be close to that.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:34:41 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi John!
Yes Jim - in Graz we have the Gottscheer Gedenkstätte. On the walls on the inside are listed all the Gottscheers who died as a result of the war. It is holy ground.

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:35:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, speaking of European relatives. Would you be able to tell me some of their names especially those born before WW II? If possible, drop them in an email.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:36:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, do they say how many died? I know the percentage was very high.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:37:04 (GMT)
Franz:
Yes Jim, I was there in 1977. It is called Gottscheer Gdedaenkstaette. It is a nice chappel with a small museum. It is located close to Maria Trost which is a wonderful pilgrimage church. Ridy knows about it.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:38:40 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Jim - I don't have the numbers in my head - maybe someone else out there listening in has them - -
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:39:24 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz - do you want to try that spelling again?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:40:08 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I must get there one day. I would like to visit Graz and tromp through the woods of the Unterwarmberg and Ebental parishes where the old villages were. It would be very emotional. I went to Ellis Island two months ago and the feeling of walking where my ancestors walked is hard to explain.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:40:17 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
yes, sterntal and gakowa (in hungary) were 2 of the worse.
After that war, my parents were to fefferitz and then to
wagna, which of course were different

- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:40:41 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
The Gedenkstätte in graz has the names of those who died in
the army, not in the camps or in placed like the hornwald.
I've been there a number of times too.

- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:42:27 (GMT)
Franz:
Tom, your parents were in Wagna? I bet your father must have been on a picture with me. What's his first name?
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:42:38 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Jim - the last time I was back (the only time, since we were resettled) was at this time of the year in 1963. It was an overwhelming, emotional experience to stand on the ground where Kukendorf once was -- no houses remained, only the church, which was being used as a barn, but it, too, has since disappeared. I picked a large bunch of forget-me-nots and dried them, and until recently, I included a sprig in the coffin of each relative who died. Alas, I have now run out of forget-me-nots from Kukendorf. It seemed to me then that our home was buried under a blanket of forget-me-nots.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:44:54 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
My fathers first name is Anton.
I forget how long there were there, but they then moved
to Mürzzuschlag in early 49 w/ their families and my parents
got married in 11/49.

- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:45:58 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, I certainly will try. I still owe you the picture of Komutzen. Didn't forget it.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:46:15 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Tom, I would guess that more died in the partisan camps than fighting.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:47:13 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Jim, I agree with Ridy; sometimes the questions you ask are
ones that help the rest of us understand things a little
better.
I don't remember much about Ridgewood . I was only there a few times and I was around 8 . Other times we saw my cousins at my grandmothers in a different part of Queens.

- dialup-209.246.65.101.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:47:47 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Franz: Ed would be interested in a picture of Komutzen, also. We would be happy to pay any costs involved in getting one.
- mod5.new-philly.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:48:32 (GMT)
Franz:
Tom, there are some names available on the photo. I will let you know the next time.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:49:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
John, where did you and yours settle?
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:49:33 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
I think so too Jim. I had 3 'close' (uncle, etc) relatives die in the war, and many in the camps, esp on moms side.
My one uncle who was shot and died in the war fell on
someone who became my dads friend many years later in NY.
They were talking one day and the name 'Rudy Stalzer' came up, and that was my fathers brother who was killed.

- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:50:07 (GMT)
Franz:
Ed and Mary, my pleasure. Gottscheer don't charge for a favor.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:50:15 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi is anyone still here?
- spider-ta017.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:50:16 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Tom - the names on the walls in Graz are not only of those who died in the army. There are also the names of those who were civilians but were murdered or those who starved to death on their flight when the war ended. My grandfather's name is on there - he was murdered for his money and passport - and 2 young children who were distant cousins and starved to death. Some others who are listed on there were forced to dig their own graves, and then shot in thrown into the graves they had dug. I think it was meant to be a memorial for any Gottscheers who were victims of the war, soldiers and civilians alike.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:50:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Are there any pictures of Komutzen on the videotape? I don't remember. I am going through it again. I may try to take pictures of the screen and see how that works.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:51:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Tom, what part of Gottschee did your family come from?
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:53:24 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Oh, Jim! I hope that works! I think there would be a huge interest for still pictures taken off that video.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:53:29 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Mary!!!
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:53:44 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
Jim: Stockendorf and the surrounding towns.
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:54:13 (GMT)
Franz:
Welcome Mary.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:54:23 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Mary! jump right in!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:54:48 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have been going back over the chat room tonite. I wonder if I can save it and print it out.
- spider-ta017.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:54:52 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Jim I will email you tomorrow what I have of the Petsche's in Bistriz #2.
- spider-ta017.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:56:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Tom, have eleven Stalzer names in my file from Stockendorf. Mostly those who married people in the Tschermoschnitz parish. Do you have a house number?
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:58:20 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I had a house full tonite for dinner andn was afraid i missed everyone.
- spider-ta017.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:59:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, just highlight the information and go to your print function and select the print selection only function or you can just try to print the whole thing.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 02:59:38 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight to everyone. We continue to learn a lot from the Chat.
Thanks again, Franz, for all your help. Ridy: That is a very nice story about the forget-me-nots.

- mod5.new-philly.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 03:00:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, thank you about the Bistritz information. If you are using Family Tree Maker, you may be able to export the file as an rtf and send it as an attachment to the email instead of retyping the information.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 03:01:13 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good night, Ed and Mary
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 03:02:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Time for me to go as well. Nice to chat with everyone tonight. See you next week or via emails during the week. Ed & Mary, please say hello to Joe and Teri.
- spider-wi014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 03:02:30 (GMT)
Franz:
I am sorry gang, it,s 10.00 pm by me have to get up early. see you next week.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 03:02:52 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
Jim: No house number.
Any way you would send me the info in the file?

- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 03:03:20 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim I use Family Tree Maker but a lot of my info about the Petshe's is not in it yet. I have been concentratin on the Peschel side of the family first.
- spider-ta017.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 03:03:23 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Gute Nacht!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 03:03:25 (GMT)
Franz:
Good Night, Gute Nacht, Guetei Nocht.
- 1Cust138.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 03:03:28 (GMT)
Tom Stalzer:
I must go too, night all!
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 03:04:14 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Good night everyone
- spider-ta017.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 03:06:00 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Jim, MY grandmother came about 1903 or 1904 . An older Half -
brother came around the same time .He was married in Graz
and had daughters that were closer to my granmothers age.
A yuounger brother also came ,but returned to Gottschee
to marry . HE returned here had one son here and brought his family back to Gottschee after WWI . He returned to the US with his wife and 2 younger sons and settled in Regina ,
saskatchewan. HIs oldest son stayed in Gottschee and died
inGraz in 1992. His name was JOHann Nadler. He had one grand daughter still living in Graz but I don't know her name or what became of her . Another younger brother of my grandmother came here probably about 1908 ,and went to Arizona or New Mex. to work in the mines ,and later wound up logging in Vancover .He was missing to his family for 45 years aand died unmarried in Surrey B.C.
MY grandmother married a Slovenian Frank Sorli from Cilli
in 1907. The only sibling of my grandmother to remain in Gottschee was her brother who was killed as a soldier in WW1.It was his decendents who came here some before Ww2 and some after the camps.

- dialup-209.246.65.101.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, May 22, 2000 at 03:07:51 (GMT)
Ramor/Schuss:
Is anyone here from the village of Rodine or Reichenau?

- ip247.vancouver6.dialup.canada.psi.net - Thursday, May 25, 2000 at 05:11:57 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Happy Memorial Day to all! Anyone on tonight? Is everyone out swimming and picnicing?
- KSCYA010-0942.splitrock.net - Monday, May 29, 2000 at 01:11:26 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must say Gute Nacht. Looks like everyone is busy. Have a super holiday.
- KSCYA010-0942.splitrock.net - Monday, May 29, 2000 at 01:28:35 (GMT)
Ramor/Schuss:
Is anyone here from the village of Rodine or Reichenau?

- 154.5.157.162 - Monday, May 29, 2000 at 03:25:50 (GMT)
Martin Joseph Sweaney:
I am ecstatic to find this website. My mother was born Rita A. Tramposh in Omaha in 1928; her father was Johann Tramposh, born 1893 in Hocheneck (Hoheneck), just south of Gottschee. I have a fair amount of information in my head, and more at my mother's place in Omaha. I promise to share it, and eagerly anticipate getting connected.
- www.bop.gov - Wednesday, May 31, 2000 at 15:59:04 (GMT)
Richard and Nettie Sider:
This is my first visit to the Plaudezimmer. Nettie is Ridy's cousin who as I can see, from the mail, is a frequent visitor here. We are also in touch with John Sorli, whose aunt we knew quite well. Hi Ridy, Hi John
Bahiat die Gott Alle mit ein ander.
Rich and Nettie

- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Friday, June 02, 2000 at 19:39:28 (GMT)
Franz:
Anyone out there in cyberspace?
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:01:27 (GMT)
Franz:
Come on, don't let me doze off.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:03:49 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, Franz: Yes, I'm here. Hope someone logs on tonight. Not much action last Sunday night. Lovely and cool here in KCMO after some rally hot days last week.
- KSCYA010-0659.splitrock.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:03:59 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Richard and Nettie: Good to have you on board. Hope you like the plauderzimmer and all the people who share information.
- KSCYA010-0659.splitrock.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:05:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Margaret and Franz. Worked this weekend but got enough time outside to work on the rhododendrons and azaleas. Beautiful weekend for a cook out.
- 1Cust115.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:05:51 (GMT)
Franz:
Hello Margaret, thank you for keeping me awake. Yes very cool here too. I suspect Ridy sent the Canadian Clipper south.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:06:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, any information on Gottscheer societies in Germany or Austria?
- 1Cust115.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:06:50 (GMT)
Franz:
Hello Jim, what's on the grill, can't figure the aroma.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:07:37 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
I think today was the big picnic in Ridgewood. It's always on the first Sunday in June. Never have made it. Maybe next year. Did anyone go to the picnic? Anyone going to Toronto treffen??
- KSCYA010-0659.splitrock.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:07:46 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, sorry not yet. Spoke to my sister yesterday, she will try to get on it for us.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:08:55 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
There was a picnic. Have never made it myself. Working at the hospital so I did not make it this year either.
- 1Cust115.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:11:07 (GMT)
Franz:
Margaret, are you going to Toronto? I am trying to work around things in order to go. Would be a great opportunity to see my cousin again. Speaking of cousin, Jim what are your plans?
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:13:05 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: I enjoy the newsletter and the material from the Gottscheer Heritage society. Wish I could be in close contact with Gottscheers, other than the ones in KCMO.
- KSCYA010-0659.splitrock.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:13:31 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz: All plans for a group from KC to go to the treffen are on hold due to the illness of our "leader", the lady who got us all to Cleveland last Sept. Marie Wolf is her name. She is almost 89 and just diagnosed with cancer. She was one of the last links with Gottschee around here.
- KSCYA010-0659.splitrock.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:15:14 (GMT)
Franz:
Gottscheer gang, wpould it not be ecstatic for us to meet in person sometime?
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:15:49 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello everyone!
We hope to go to the Treffen in Toronto. We really enjoyed the Treffen last year in Cleveland.
There is a Fourth of July Picnic each year at the Gottscheer Club in the Cleveland area, also.
To Franz _ We wrote a letter to Walter Kraker and are hoping to hear from him. Thanks for your help with address, etc.

- mod31.new-philly.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:16:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am looking at Toronto as well. Not sure if I can make it. I am definitely shooting for next year's GHGA meeting in Hawley, Pa. That is within driving distance.

- 1Cust115.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:18:04 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Really would like to go to Toronto, but Marie was the moving force behind this group and now she's ill. Too bad.
- KSCYA010-0659.splitrock.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:19:18 (GMT)
Franz:
Hello Ed and Mary, it will be interesting to hear what he has to say. This morning I checked the visitors log, I think a close friend from my boyhood logged on, a Joseph Mausser from Unterwarmberg. Amazing.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:20:43 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there gang,
I agree Franz that it would be wonderful for all of us to meet. Can we get you to go to the Treffen in Toronto?
Jim, Aurelia gets a newletter from Klagenfurt. I have been trying to get my hands on them.

- ashfnsi-48.suite224.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:22:38 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Jim: We went to the GHGA meeting at Hawley in 1998 and it was very nice. There were interesting speakers, good entertainment and food and even a button box player at the Sunday Mass. We really enjoyed it.
- mod31.new-philly.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:23:01 (GMT)
Franz:
Margaret, sorry to hear about your motivators illness, how about you picking up the reigns?
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:23:09 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ed & Mary,
How are you enjoying retirement? More time for gottscheer stuff?

- ashfnsi-48.suite224.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:24:01 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz; I log in with my maiden name. My married name is MURPHY! Don't think I could move the group as well as Marie did. I am more follower than leader.
- KSCYA010-0659.splitrock.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:24:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, did you email Josef? I sent him a brief note.
- 1Cust115.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:26:25 (GMT)
Franz:
Margaret, I am sure there ar Murphys in Toronto. See if Mr. Murphy can do it.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:26:32 (GMT)
Margaaret Jonke:
Wish I could get people excited about Toronto. Don't know, if I can.
- KSCYA010-0659.splitrock.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:28:29 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, yes I did. I also invited him to join us at this session. Told him there are wild things going on here. Just kidding, Idid ask him to tune in.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:28:34 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
How long would the trip be to Toronto from Kansas?
- 1Cust115.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:29:17 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Holly _ Only one of us is retired and Ed's not happy about it! Mostly, I've had more time for cleaning out nooks and crannies that were neglected for 30 years! Next week I'm going to help out with grandkids by baby sitting a couple of days and running two of them to cross country practices.
To Franz _ Glad to hear you've located another good friend.

- mod31.new-philly.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:29:32 (GMT)
Margaaret Jonke:
Must log off now. See you all here next week. Auf Widersehen. Bleib gesund.
- KSCYA010-0659.splitrock.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:29:50 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Margaret.
- spider-wn022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:31:19 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, I think they would have to make a overnight in Chicago of course. Then there is always a question if the make it out of here.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:31:24 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ed & Mary,
Hey Mary, you gave me a good chuckle about Ed.

- ashfnsi-48.suite224.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:32:16 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Good Night Margaret. sorry I missed you.
- ashfnsi-48.suite224.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:33:05 (GMT)
Franz:
GOOD nIGHT Margaret, what's the hurry, your blanket will wait for you.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:33:42 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, how are you doing? I sent some information to Tony Sehn on the Ramor/ Schuss family. They settled in Canada but quite a distance away from Ridy.
- spider-wn022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:35:41 (GMT)
Franz:
Ed and Mary, about my friend, I just assumed he is the one I think he is.

- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:36:26 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hey Jim,
He will be a very busy as I also sent him some info.

- ashfnsi-48.suite224.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:37:07 (GMT)
Franz:
Where is Ridy tonight? O yes I forgot again, she is busy with the Canadian Clipper.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:39:03 (GMT)
Franz:
Who is still living in Ridgewood?
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:42:29 (GMT)
Franz:
O well I guess I am talking to myself. Good Night everyone.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:44:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Patience Franz. We sometimes bounce around but I will usually be back until I sign off. Good night, Franz. There are still some stalwarts in Ridgewood. The club is still there. I visited last winter during the week.
- spider-wn083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:50:45 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello! Anyone still here?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:53:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi Ridy. Some activity but everyone seems to have stopped chatting.
- spider-wn083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:55:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, are you still checking in?
- spider-wn083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:55:52 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Franz:
The chorus from the Ridgewood Club sang at the Cleveland Treffen, including Ed's cousin, Adolph Mausser. We also bought a tape of the Ridgewood Treffen held previously and saw Adolph and his wife, Maria, dancing.
Jim _ Did you grow up in Ridgewood?

- mod31.new-philly.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:56:16 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I was hoping to get here sooner - but, oh! That pile of dishes! 2 loads so far....a couple more to go
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:57:06 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Just reading over some of the messages today -- glad to hear you all talking about coming to Toronto!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 01:58:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ed, partly. I lived in Bushwick which is the neighborhood literally on the other side of the tracks both geographically and economically. Spent some time in Ridgewood but knew nothing about Gottschee.
- spider-wn083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:00:01 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Ridy!
Ed wants to know if you run a restaurant on Sundays! You must do a lot of entertaining.

- mod31.new-philly.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:00:10 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Everyone,
Very hot in Utah. 93 degrees here today. My lawn is already trying to burn up on me. Any new Gottscheer news?

- proxy-566.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:01:25 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
My kids were home for dinner and brought friends! I got them into that habit when they were small so that I could keep track of who their friends were -- but they haven't dropped the habit now that they're grown up and living on their own!
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:02:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, John. Please keep the very hot weather with you and leave the 75-80 degree days here.
- spider-wn083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:04:15 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Going to sign off for now. Have to see the end of the Laker game. Hope they win.
- spider-wn083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:05:11 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good night, Jim
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:06:30 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Hi Everyone,
I took the family to the Gottscheer picnic in Franklin Square today and had a great time. We visited with my cousin Ernestine Nadler Matzelle ( Mitterdorf) and her
husband Karl and their daughter Marlene .We also saw my
cousin Engelbert Konig and cousin Ernst Konig and wife Hilda and their son Karl. We were standing with someone
taling about our Handler cousins when one of Erna's friends
introduced us to Handler cousin Frank Verderber who I had spoken to once before on the phone. Erna was disappointed
we missed Frank's brother Paul Verderber and Family. I had met Paul once before about 6 months ago.

- dialup-209.246.71.76.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:08:47 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
John - are all of you planning to come to Toronto for the Treffen in September? There's usually a bus or two from New York, isn't there?
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:10:48 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy: Nice you had your kids and their friends for dinner. We had all of our kids and grandkids for a Memorial Day picnic _ but we used throw-away dishes! I suppose they are already busy making plans for the Treffen in Toronto.
Jim: When did you learn of your Gottscheer roots?

- mod31.new-philly.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:10:59 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Ed and Mary - They've been busy planning the Treffen for a while now, I understand. I actually haven't become involved with the Gottscheer group here - it's hard to get around when you can't drive anymore.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:13:28 (GMT)
John Sorli:
HI Cousin John,
Are you still there ? I haven't heard from you in a long time. I know I still promised you some more material on the current Ziegelfest decendants from our branch.

- dialup-209.246.71.76.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:14:06 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi John,
I'm watching Who Wants to be a Millionaire while chatting. How are you doing? I haven't done much on my Gottscheer lines. I have been working on my Mother's side of the family in France!

- proxy-566.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:17:01 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Hi Ridy,
I would love to come to the Treffen in Torronto, but doubt
I could talk my wife into it. She's not real outgoing so
6 hours at the picnic I think is enough for her . PLus we have 2 small children 5 and 7.

- dialup-209.246.71.76.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:18:58 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy: We hope to meet you and all the others on the Chat at the Treffen. It should be a lot of fun. Ed said he never imagined when he started researching his family history that it would lead to such a close-knit group of friends and relatives.

- mod31.new-philly.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:20:51 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I can see that young children could get pretty bored at a
Treffen. . . .

- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:22:18 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I'm really looking forward to it, Mary and Ed. I also have relatives coming, and it'll be lovely to see everyone.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:24:38 (GMT)
John Sorli:
John,
I haven't done too much on my Gottscheer lines lately either. My mother-in-law is 75 and interested, so I've done
a lot on her family who are Germans. I think she's surprised how much I've found as I've finally nailed down the last of her more immediate family connections. How is your family doing?

- dialup-209.246.71.76.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:24:48 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
To John Sorli:
The wife of one of our Gottscheer friends says that since marrying a Gottscheer, she's lost count of the polkas she's listened to and the sausage sandwiches she's eaten!

- mod31.new-philly.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:25:26 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Ridy,
I would love to come to the Treffen, but we just can't afford it right now. I have already made a trip to Wyoming for my nephews graduation. We will make another trip at the end of this month to visit family and go to my 25th Class reunion. I also had a cousin die at 37 years old, sadly I was not able to go to the funeral in Wyoming.

- proxy-554.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:26:54 (GMT)
John Sorli:
ED and Mary,
Perhaps my trouble is I spend too much talking and not enough dancing!

- dialup-209.246.71.76.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:28:00 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I'm lucky this year that the Treffen is being held right here in Toronto - no travelling for me. Actually, I've already booked my room at the hotel so that I don't have the bother of going back and forth every day.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:31:03 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
John Sorli,
My own family is doing good. We may have a cousin come from France in the fall. He has a son who lives I think in Toronto. They are planning to visit him and may come visit us. We are very excited. We have been exchanging information on my French ancestors and sharing information on our Grandfathers sides. His Great Grandfather and my Grandfather are brothers.

- proxy-555.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:31:10 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good night, all. . . .it's been a long day.
- 24.66.101.250.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:33:17 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Lakers won. Just checking back in.
- spider-wn081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:34:42 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Holly,
If you check in again,thanks for the info on the Stimpfels
of Hohenig on the bulletin board last week. I've copied a lot of material on Stimpfels from Hohenig and also Katzendorf. I'm sure that all the Stimpfels of Hihenig are
related and hopefully will be able to sort it out at some point. that is the only Gottscheer line that I haven't done much work on.

- dialup-209.246.71.76.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:35:46 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight everyone! We have to catch the sports as the Indians won today, beating the St. Louis Cardinals and striking out McGuire to end the game!
- mod31.new-philly.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:36:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night again. The Lakers get to play again. A good way to end the week for a Laker fan.
- spider-wn081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:41:23 (GMT)
John Sorli:
John,
That's really great. I know how excited you must be. We are
also having foreign visitors this Summer and Fall. A friend
from Scotland who I met 18 years ago on a visit is coming
to NYC with his 27 year ld daughter and her fiancee and 2
other friends . they're coming in August and an English
couple I met on the same trip (whose young children are now
grown ) are touring out West and will spend about 4 or 5 days with us in October.It's nice to keep freinships going over the years. Hopefully we'll get over their again and
also to Gottschee when my children are older.

- dialup-209.246.71.76.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:45:12 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
John,
Did you go to Gottschee this last year or the year before? I think I remember you telling me you went there.

- proxy-554.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:49:22 (GMT)
John Sorli:
John,
I've never been to Gottschee. Our cousin Erna Nadler Matzelle went to Gottschee with her husband and showed me videotape of the church in Mitterdorf and also the house her grandather lived in and my greatgrand's house.

- dialup-209.246.71.76.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:52:58 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
John,
Going to Gottschee is one of my long term goals. Hopefully I get there before I kick the bucket. France is another place I would like to go. It is to bad it takes money to go to these places. When I go I want to take my whole family. I want my children to appreciate their heritage and this is a way of helping them understand their roots better.

- proxy-554.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 02:59:43 (GMT)
John Sorli:
John,
Sorry I type so slowly. If you are still there, there are 3
Ziegelfests in Ausria ,in Fonsdorf. They are defintely related as we had one of the cousins from the 2nd marriage
(your branch) whose wife died there according to some records I found. One day I'll try to get our cousin Erna to write a letter to them in German and see what happens.

- dialup-209.246.71.76.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 03:00:47 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
John,
I don't think that you type slowly, but this board can be a bit slow. It is nice though and you can keep in touch with so many people. Now are these living relatives that live in Austria? I have never seen the Ziegelfest name, except in church records.

- proxy-553.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 03:03:50 (GMT)
John Sorli:
John,
I agree. I would like to take my children also when they
get older. I try to give them an appreciation of their
heritage too. It is too bad that it costs so much. I hope
I get there before I kick the bucket too, and I'm a little older than you. I wish my wife showed more interest,as I've done a lot on her family too.
Perhaps we could make the trip together with our faimilies some year down the road.

- dialup-209.246.71.76.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 03:06:42 (GMT)
John Sorli:
John,
If you can wait a few minutes, I can run upstairs and get the chart and tell you who they are decended from. There are 3 living in the same town. I don't have there names immediately available but I can get them.

- dialup-209.246.71.76.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 03:11:09 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Well, I need to go my wife needs to write a message to her brother and I need to get ready for bed. I will try to make it on next Sunday and maybe we can visit longer.
Goodnight!

- proxy-552.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 03:11:52 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Thanks John! Once my wife gets done I will read the info. Thanks for your assistance. Will chat later.
- proxy-558.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 03:13:12 (GMT)
John Sorli:
John,
They are decended from the brother of your gt gt grandmother Maria. That would be Johann Ziegelfest b.23 July
1824 Ort #9 - pl of death unknown. The church records said some negative things about him. He married 16 aug 1843. His wife was Magdalena Schober b21 March 1823 Klindorf#12. She died 15 Oct 1885 in Fonsdorf Austria. I checked it out on the map some time ago, and it's not close to Graz but up a little higher and alittle more to the west in Austria if memory seves me. They had 2 daughters Josefa b.1847 ,Maria b.1852and 3 sons Johannb.1844-d. in Leoben 4 Jan 1881, Josef b in 1849 , and Mathias b in 1855 All the children wer born in Ort #8 and the 3 sons were married . The ones
living in Fonsdorf today are almost certainly decended from one of these sons .

- dialup-209.246.71.76.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 03:35:41 (GMT)
John Sorli:
John,
I don't know whether you came back yet to get the info. I just wanted to let you know that I won't be on for about a month,as I have to turn in my company computer. I plan to get my own within the month. I can still access my e mail
through any computer as I have yahoo . Good talking to you.
Keep in touch.

- dialup-209.246.71.76.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, June 05, 2000 at 03:46:34 (GMT)
Ramor/Schuss:
Is anyone here from the village of Rodine or Reichenau?

- 154.5.157.87 - Sunday, June 11, 2000 at 05:59:39 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
John Sorli:
I copied your information and I have updated my data base for the Ziegelfest.
Thanks,
John Herbst

- proxy-642.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 00:57:08 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, all! Sorry to be late. Anything happening? Any news? Anyone found any long-lost cousins?
- KSCYA010-0546.splitrock.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:29:36 (GMT)
:
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- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:37:31 (GMT)
Franz:
HELLO Margaret, Hello everyone.
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:37:34 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Anyone hanging around the room tonight?
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:37:56 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, yes, but the rope snapped.
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:39:05 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz/Jim: So good to see someone logged on. Thought I would be all alone tonight. Hope you had a good week. Raining like crazy in KCMO today and yesterday. We really needed the rain.
- KSCYA010-0546.splitrock.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:40:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Dear Franz,
Quiet Sunday. Wie gehts?

- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:40:15 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi everybody!
Looks like a slow night -
We're learning how to swim up here - had enough rain now to start building an arc

- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:40:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Watching some of the basketball game. Laker fan but they are not doing well tonight.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:41:24 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Everything is up to date in KC and very wet, otherwise, not much else.
- KSCYA010-0546.splitrock.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:41:53 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, mir geht es gut, wi geht es Dihr?
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:42:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Just starting to rain right now. Guess I don't have to worry about watering the lawn tomorrow.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:42:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mir geht es gut auch. I guess.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:43:33 (GMT)
Franz:
Hello Canadian, make enough room for all of us on your arc.
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:43:51 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, have you heard from Eduard lately? How is he doing?
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:44:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Did I use "auch" appropriately?
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:44:58 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz: Thanks for putting in the German sentence. I have a little book of handy German phrases that I refer to. I'm adding Mir geht es gut to my list. Thanks again.
- KSCYA010-0546.splitrock.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:45:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, it has been a quiet week on the wires. How are you doing? The rain will give us a break from the weeds.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:45:43 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz can't spell "Dir" and Jim has to learn where the "auch" goes -- I'll have to make sure we have a schoolroom on the arc!
- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:46:42 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Haven't heard from Eduard (Eddie) for 2 weeks. His mom and dad left 6-7-00 for Desseldorf. Planned to rent a car and drive to Graz and on to Gottschee. They will be back by the end of June. Will check on Eddie tomorrow.
- KSCYA010-0546.splitrock.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:47:19 (GMT)
Franz:
We had a hot and humid day, as I light my grill temperature started droping and within 30 minutes it was 30 degrees colder. Ridy keep your canadian weather up THERE.
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:47:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Where does auch go?
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:48:21 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi everyone!
It's been very hot and muggy here in Ohio. After a storm today, it has started to cool down a little.

- mod48.new-philly.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:48:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Ed and Mary.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:49:36 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - like you, we were into unbearably hot and humid weather yesterday with a smog advisory as well, and then today the temperature dropped like a stone. Both my kids were flying out today, and Caroline said she's never had a rougher flight because of the storms, and Christopher's was delayed by 2 hours! We are having a crazy summer so far.
- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:50:24 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, when I went to school in Graz the did not teach typing, therefor my fingers are rutsching out of control. Sorry for the DIHR DIR . There you have it.
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:50:39 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ed and Mary: Hello. Glad you could log on. Made a spelling error in my comment about cousin Eduard's mom and dad. They went to Dusseldorf, then to Graz, then to Gottschee.
- KSCYA010-0546.splitrock.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:50:50 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - "mir geht es auch gut" - I should not tease you -- I can remember the teasing when I was learning english -- I didn't much like it!
- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:52:01 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I had a Franciscan brother teach me typing in grammar school. Comes in handy on the internet.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:52:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
No offense taken. I am a willing student and teasing by a cousin is not a problem.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:52:48 (GMT)
Ridy:
Love your sense of humour (english spelling) Franz!
- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:53:08 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, send one of those Franciscans my way, maybe they could still teach me some.
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:53:42 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Will add another German phrase to my list. Thank you. Never learned grammar, just a kind of "kitchen German" from my grandmothers.
- KSCYA010-0546.splitrock.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:53:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
practice, practise, practice
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:54:06 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hey - has anyone noticed that I'm using a new computer?
- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:54:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, not here. Do you like it?
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:55:04 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must log off. Hope you will all tune in next week. Auf wiedersehen.Bleib gesund.
- KSCYA010-0546.splitrock.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:55:33 (GMT)
Franz:
Wow Ridy, your computer looks really sharp.
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:55:34 (GMT)
Ridy:
Margaret - my grandmothers didn't help my language skills at all. One spoke Gottscheerisch, the other one a Vorarlberger dialect, and I spoke a mischmasch of the two until I started school. Very interesting!
- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:56:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Margaret.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:57:29 (GMT)
Franz:
By the way Ridy, what's your new computers name?
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:57:41 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
To Jim: When did you learn of your Gottscheer heritage? We asked previously, but I think you had signed off to watch the Lakers!
To Franz: We haven't received a response from Walter Kraker yet. Ed may call him sometime, but we don't even know "kitchen German" as Margaret calls it.

- mod48.new-philly.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:58:26 (GMT)
Ridy:
Actually, I haven't decided if I like it or not. Christopher ran into some problems when he was setting it up for me - transferring all the files from the old one - and as a last task he was doing the virus scan and it erased everything he had done. He managed to get it up and working for e-mail and I can go on the Internet, but there are all sorts of little and big bugs that he'll have to work on when he comes home again, and I don't know when that will be. He did not appreciate it when I remarked that I've learned not to look a gift horse in the mouth!
- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 01:59:43 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Starting learning about it only two years ago in early 1998. The internet was invaluable. Met Holly, and Ridy. Wrote to others. Impossible without it.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:00:15 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - it's a Compaq Presario - at least that's what it says on it.
- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:00:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Compaq is usually a reliable unit.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:01:33 (GMT)
Franz:
Hi Ed and Mary, don't worry about the language with walter, he spent some years here in the states, then he was a driver at an american service base in Germany.
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:01:38 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, do you spell his name backwards?
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:02:46 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, do you spell his name backwards?
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:03:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - the crash happened when he was downloading the program from the Internet - he was not amused!
- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:03:13 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - Lange Leitung here - spell whose name backwards?
- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:04:19 (GMT)
Ridy:
Do any of you have the Adobe Photoshop 5.5? My dear child
didn't leave me the Manual.

- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:06:24 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Franz: Thanks for all the information about Walter. We are hoping to communicate with him. Does he have any siblings? Ed never realized that most of his grandmother's brothers and sisters didn't come to America or returned after only a short time here.
- mod48.new-philly.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:07:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Photoshop is great but very powerful.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:09:02 (GMT)
Franz:
Ed and Mary, yes he had several brothers, however I don't know if there are any still with us. Next time I talk to one of my silblings I will find out.
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:11:01 (GMT)
Ridy:
Ed and Mary-I recently learned how to make that letter you mistook for a B -- let's see if it works: ß -- it's what in german is called a sharp s or double s
- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:13:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, maybe you could contact Adobe online and see if you can get a manual that way.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:13:30 (GMT)
Franz:
jIM, ARE YOU STILL WTH US, the Lakers are sinking.
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:13:49 (GMT)
Ridy:
Thanks for the idea Jim - I'll see if I can do that. It's not much use to me without it, but he said it was better than the program I had before.
- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:15:12 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, Ridy, Ed and Mary, I am sorry but there are a lot of Honey Do's waiting for me. We have company coming from Germany on Thursday. A very pleasant Good Night and a new week.
- 1Cust8.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:19:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Still here but sunk like the Titanic. They will be there in every game but they may need Kobe to win it all. The Pacers just are not going to blow them out. I can shoot free throws better than Shaq even when I haven't played for months.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:19:35 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, have a good week.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:20:05 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi All!
- proxy-612.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:21:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Johann. How is Utah?
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:24:32 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good night, everyone - have a good week!
- 24.66.101.54.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:25:35 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
We are doing good in Utah. We had a good rain a couple of days ago. It has been unusually hot though. One night stayed at 75 degrees. More like mid-July weather.
- proxy-611.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:29:05 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
How's your wife doing Jim?
- proxy-612.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:29:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Doing well. No more halo or collar. How is everyone out there? Ridy, good night.
- spider-tq021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:30:37 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Jim,
Have you been doing any Gottscheer work at all? I have been working on my French stuff. I have found two cousin's who are helping me trace some of my lines there.

- proxy-615.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:31:29 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight everyone! Have a good week and we hope to chat with you all again.
- mod48.new-philly.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:32:27 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
I don't know if you read it or not, but my cousin Frank Herbst died of a heart attack in May. He was only 37 years old. He had two small children he left behind. It was a real shock.
- proxy-613.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:33:08 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
The internet is awfull slow tonight. Have you done anything fun this summer, Jim.
- proxy-614.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:35:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Got kicked off.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:38:28 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Are you still around Jim?
- proxy-615.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:38:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Always doing something on the Gottscheer angle but not making much headway. Nothing at all on my own family just adding names from Nesseltal.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:39:42 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
That is a problem sometimes. If someone calls my house I get bumped off the internet to. So if you don't hear from me for a while you know what happened.
- proxy-614.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:39:44 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
What are you doing on Nesseltal?
- proxy-612.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:40:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Going to Aruba in a week and then Virginia Beach in July. Looking forward to Aruba. Not sure about Virginia.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:40:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Working through the marriage file. I don't have much in Nesseltal but I try to get as much in my file as possible. Have tried to help quite a few others with varying success.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:41:38 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
It seems like Virginia Beach would be a little crowded this time of year. I'm not much into crowds. My wife doesn't mind them. I guess that's what happens when growing up in Wyoming. I'm not much of a city person. I avoid them like he plague. I prefer the solitude of the mountains.
- proxy-614.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:43:01 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hate crowds myself and abhor traffic. Grew up in a teeming section of Brooklyn and prefer the greener pastures. That is what I am afraid of in Virginia. Will go online and try to find nonbeach things to do.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:44:30 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Are the records in Nesseltal pretty easy to read? I know that the Ebental records are very easy to read most of the time, but Altlag has some very poor records at times. Some of the Gottschee Parish ones are darn right not legible.
- proxy-615.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:44:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Maybe a winery or two. High temperatures and crowds are not my cup of Earl Grey.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:45:20 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
We need to get Helen Petsche to publish her Atlag records. It would save many of us a lot of research time. May understanding is she has extracted the whole parish, do you know if this is true?
- proxy-616.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:46:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am using the second version of the Nesseltal marriage records from the GHGA. I went through Ebental and Unterwarmberg with some trepidation and I used your file to crosscheck Ebental. Don't have time to do the same with Nesseltal. I do internally check the Nesseltal information for mistakes. I then cross check it with information I have gotten from Holly.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:47:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
My understanding is that she probably is close to having it all done (or has it all done) but I will grow hair on my head before it gets published. I believe it is all handwritten. I have offered to computerize some of it with no response.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:48:37 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
You will never get it all perfect. Sometimes they don't use the womans maiden name if she has been married before. That is where some of my problems came in the Ebental marriages. Some of the Priests were very careful and others just did what they had to I think.
- proxy-612.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:49:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Having it on file makes it so much easier to help others locate their ancestors. It also picks up inconsistencies which we all have in our data.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:49:44 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Picked that up in Ebental and was able to correct it by checking back to the marriage of the parents. Interestingly, one of the priests started doing that in the later part of the Ebental files. Usually that was done earlier.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:50:57 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
She is very funny about those records. She has shared some of her info with me, but I offered to pay her to get copies and have never heard anything either. I believe I have asked her a couple of times. She is a very good scribe and I haven't found one mistake in all she has given me. I always check the original record.
- proxy-618.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:51:27 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ebental was a lot easier than Unterwarmberg but I have still noticed a few errors in it. The big problem with Unterwarmberg as far as I am concerned was the Morscher/Mausser problem. I don't think the priests even got that one right all the time.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:52:11 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
You will find that some genealogist will hoard their information for some reason. I don't know why. I have been lucky to find two cousins in France that both want to know more about our families in France. We are now sharing pictures and stuff. It has been fun.
- proxy-615.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:53:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have found a couple of inconsistencies but I have made more mistakes than she does. Helen is excellent. I have questions on one branch of my family where her information differs from Holly's. I don't go back to the original record for much of my file. The trade off is probably a few more mistakes versus a lot more information that will help others. The crosschecking eliminates many of the mistakes and my results have agreed with files others have shared with me.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:55:28 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
I never had a problem reading those two names on the records in Altlag. The u and the r sometimes can be confusing. Some of the Priests wrote the letters very much the same.
- proxy-612.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:55:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Definitely a problem in UWG. Went back to it a couple of times before I sent it in to Kate and I think I got most of it right but ......... .
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:57:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Johann, going to sign off. My beloved wishes to check her email and it is nigh on time for me to get tucked in.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:58:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night. Have a good week.
- spider-wd011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:58:22 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
I was quite happy with my extraction of the Ebental records. Considering I never had a German class and I used the LDS churches extraction helps. On some I would compare the entries of the same families in the family books and that helped me a lot. I think there was only one surname that I had to correct after all that work. I found it fun and a challenge.
- proxy-613.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:58:36 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Goodnight Jim. Have a good week.
- proxy-616.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, June 12, 2000 at 02:59:23 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello! Where is everybody tonight?

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:18:53 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, all! Happy Father's Day. Hope you all had a super day. Cool here in KC. 55degrees last night in the burbs. Where is global warming. Did have rain last week. Ver;y welcome.
- KSCYA010-0055.splitrock.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:26:18 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie (Eduard): Had email from your mom from Austria last week. Your dad's luggage was lost--all of it. Hope it turns up somewhere. They were renting a car, going into Gottschee. Think they will be home 6-27. Passed on the word to Tante Leni and Marie Wolf, who like to keep up on all the Gottscheer news.
- KSCYA010-0055.splitrock.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:28:28 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Margaret and Ridy! Maybe everyone is too tired after celebrating Father's Day to chat tonight. It is cool and rainy today in Ohio also, but the good news is the sun is supposed to shine a lot next week!
- mod47.new-philly.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:31:30 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Margaret, Ed and Mary!
It's been cool and wet in Toronto as well. Summer we have not had yet. I think we've only had the airconditioning on twice so far. Got all my ironing caught up yesterday and today watching Tiger win.

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:34:50 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy: Are you a Tiger Woods fan, too? One of our grandsons likes him a lot.
We have so much rain in Ohio, we are ready to build an arc. Today we had some of our kids and grandkids for a picnic and it rained a lot of the time. Oh well, we had fun anyway.

- mod47.new-philly.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:40:18 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Not many people on tonight. Everyone is entertaining Dad, most likely. See you all next week. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund. Alles gute.
- KSCYA010-0055.splitrock.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:40:27 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Yes - I'm a Tiger Woods fan. Actually, I'm just following the crowd in the family... my husband is an avid (read rabid) golfer, and so are my kids. My sister called me from Ottawa to make sure I had seen the outcome! Funny you should mention an ark -- my cousin across the Lake in New York just sent me an e-mail to say that she's finished building her ark -- they've also been having a lot of rain.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:44:17 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight Margaret. Hope you have a good week.
Ridy: Our son-in-law is also an avid golfer. Today he was in a golf tournament here. Our daughter said he'd probably return and dump water out of his golf bag!

- mod47.new-philly.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:48:31 (GMT)
franz:
hi gang, how did you treat your fathers today?
- 1Cust226.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:50:13 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Sounds like my husband! We have a front page photo of him golfing with a couple of friends at the beginning of January one year.....This in in Toronto! It just so happend that there was not much snow that year - but it was still newsworthy to see several idiots out there in sub-zero temperatures, knocking around a little ball. They also made it onto the evening news! Some people would call it devotion to the game -- I call it nuts!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:52:06 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello Franz! All the fathers in our family got the royal treatment today.
- mod47.new-philly.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:53:02 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Franz! Our resident cat gave my husband a CD of the
"Mama Mia" soundtrack. And the kids called to wish him a Happy Father's Day.

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:53:55 (GMT)
franz:
ED and Mary, how nice of treating fathers as deserved.
- 1Cust226.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:55:05 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
so,Franz - tell us how you were treated. . .
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:56:01 (GMT)
franz:
Ridy, I always get my deserved royal treatment.
- 1Cust226.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:57:22 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy: That is a neat story about your husband making the news. I'll tell my daughter and she'll enjoy hearing about it and will understand. Her husband used to be Ed's best fishing buddy until he discovered golf!
- mod47.new-philly.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:58:33 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Is that a bit of 'Eigenlob' I detect there, Franz?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 01:59:58 (GMT)
franz:
Sorry gang, but I will have to say good night, have to attend to my guests from Germany. Have a pleasent week.
- 1Cust226.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 02:01:07 (GMT)
franz:
Ridy, if necessary at times, why not?
- 1Cust226.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 02:02:56 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Servus, Franz - enjoy the time with your guests!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 02:02:59 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I'm going to have to sign off too - good night Ed and Mary. . . . Hope Jim is enjoying his holiday in Aruba!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 02:05:32 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight Franz. Maybe more people will be chatting next week. We're still hoping to hear from Walter Kraker.
Ridy: Ed is now consulting his German dictionary to determine the meaning of 'Eigenlob.' He is trying hard to learn the German language!

- mod47.new-philly.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 02:05:52 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Is anyone still on tonite?
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 02:09:06 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello Mary: There hasn't been much chatting tonight. Maybe everyone is still celebrating Father's Day.
- mod47.new-philly.net - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 02:11:29 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello Ed and Mary---yes our kids just left too. Had a cookout tonite for Fathers day
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 02:15:14 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hope to see everyone next Sunday. Goodnight.
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 19, 2000 at 02:19:50 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend: Hope all are well. Weatherman says KCMO will get some rough weather tonight. May have to cut my message short. Will log on as long as I can.
- KSCYA010-0581.splitrock.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:12:15 (GMT)
Jim :
Hello and good evening.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:13:39 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Grüß Euch Gott, alle miteinander!
Hope we have a lively Plauderzimmer this evening.

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:14:46 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Wecome back, Jim! We missed you last week.
Hi Margaret!

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:15:35 (GMT)
Jim :
I don't know how lively. It is only 9 pm and I am tired. Too much vacation. The sun and sand must be energy reducing.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:16:03 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Did you manage to take a lot of photos, Jim?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:17:26 (GMT)
Jim :
Thank you, Ridy. Have been talking with two Gottscheer descendants since Friday. Interestingly, both have only recently become aware of their Gottscheer links and both have some tie in to Iowa where there seems to have been a decent size emigration in the 1880's. Two of my greatgrandaunts went that way as well.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:18:13 (GMT)
Ridy :
Almost forgot, Jim! Did you get news of the Lakers victory down in Aruba?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:18:24 (GMT)
Jim :
Only 60 or so. Just brought two and a half rolls with me. Could have used one more. Used to take a lot more when I went on vacation but I am trying to limit my photo creativity.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:19:29 (GMT)
Jim :
Yup, I watched the game. They get NBC via cable.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:20:02 (GMT)
Ridy :
It never ceases to amaze me where Gottscheers seem to pop up. Considering the fact that they had already crossed an ocean to get over here, they seemed to just keep going westward.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:20:12 (GMT)
Jim :
With respect to Iowa, I could not help them as of yet but they both sound as if they came from the Pollandl/ Tschermoschnitz areas. Sterbenz and Kapsch, Petschauer and Juran. So close and yet so far.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:21:47 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Gang,
How is everyone? Have been outside doing some last minute clean up before the garbage goes out. what did everyone do with the day?
We had a rainy morning but it cleared up.

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:22:18 (GMT)
Jim :
I think the majority of them stopped in New York and Ohio but I continue to be amazed at how many made it to the midwest. How did they know to go to a particular place and settle in????
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:22:54 (GMT)
Ridy :
Margaret - is the weather holding up down there? We actually saw the sun this afternoon and it got pretty hot and muggy, but we've had more rain and thunderstorms than I can remember in a long time. Everything is growing like mad around here.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:23:01 (GMT)
Ridy :
How lovely to have Holly back with us! How are the grandkids?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:24:19 (GMT)
Jim :
Hello, Holly. Got your note about the Sterbenz/Kapsch inquiry. Unfortunately, they must have been from a different parish but the names certainly sound like Pollandl or Tschermoschnitz. Have another inquiry concerning a Jacob Petschauer and a Margaretha/Magdalena Juran. Again sounds as if they came from the same area but no luck.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:25:30 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
the kids are growing just as fast as the weeds are! that baby is finely starting to get over some of her colic. Can't tell you how many times I have been spit up on. Yuk!
How did your massage therapy go?

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:25:50 (GMT)
Jim :
Weather has been good since we came back on Friday. Could use some showers for the plants. Not too much rain, just a judicious sprinkling. Don't want to build an ark.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:26:43 (GMT)
Ridy :
One of my uncles had been as far west as Wyoming -- he was our Ebentaler cowboy! He followed some other Gottscheers who were already out there.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:26:52 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
Pass that on to me re:Jak Petschauer etc. I will check it out and add to my list. Maybe I can find it. That Sterbenz has me stumped at the moment. I need some luck.

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:27:39 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
We had some relatives from Germany who went to Oregon back in the covered wagon days. Quite a story.
- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:29:14 (GMT)
Jim :
That is all I have on the Petschauer/Juran. No dates but I assume the dates would be from the mid to late 1800's. Had a son named Ludwig born abt.1885 in "Austria".
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:29:40 (GMT)
Ridy :
To my way of thinking, all our Gottscheers came from relatively simple backgrounds but they dreamed big dreams and they followed them.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:32:03 (GMT)
Jim :
Ridy, sounds like he followed the Herbsts in that direction. That would be in John's territory.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:32:36 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
do you have a marriage for Ludwig?

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:34:18 (GMT)
Ridy :
And to think that I've never been further west than Chicago!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:34:30 (GMT)
Jim :
I don't have the marriage information but it would have been in the United States. I have two Ludwigs in my file but nothing fit. Anything on Jacob Petschauer and M.Juran???
Very frustrating for Sterbenz/Kapsch and these two. I know we must have some of their relatives in our information but they are a step away from what we have.

- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:37:02 (GMT)
Franz:
Well, well, what a crowd tonight. Good evenind all, Gruess Gott und servus Ridy.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:37:20 (GMT)
Jim :
Made it to Chicago and San Diego for medical conferences. Never to Europe. Hope to go one day. Will take more film for that trip.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:37:51 (GMT)
Jim :
Hello, Herr Mausser.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:38:24 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Franz,

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:39:35 (GMT)
Franz:
Herr Jim, es freut mich dass sie von Aruba gut zurueck gefunden haben. Herzlich willkommen. Try this one for size.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:40:10 (GMT)
Ridy :
Servus, Franz! I see Chicago beat the Yankees today! And our Jays beat Boston! Pretty neat
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:40:37 (GMT)
Jim :
Mary Thurman ----- the inquiry about Jacob Petschauer and Margratha/Magdalena Juran said that some of the information was from a 1920 South Dakota census. That might be in your neck of the woods. They probably did not come from the same parish as your ancestors.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:40:41 (GMT)
Jim :
Franz, it is nice to see that you are happy that I have returned safely from Aruba with a heartfelt welcome.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:42:36 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, I see you are mighty into sports. Who is going to make it to the Series? I know Chicago will falter.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:42:46 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, not bad, not bad.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:43:26 (GMT)
Jim :
All I have to say about baseball is "Go Giants" with some routing interest for the Cubs, Orioles, and Twins. I used to play a game called Stratomatic baseball so I follow the teams that I had for the game. The Giants are the ones I have a soft spot for.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:44:24 (GMT)
Jim :
Franz, danke
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:45:42 (GMT)
Jim :
have we lost Holly? I bet all she is burning through the files. Hope she finds something.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:46:36 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
hmm, what is the connection of Jak Petschauer to who? Are you related?
- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:47:25 (GMT)
Ridy :
Interesting how you cheer for teams in cities other than your own. My interests in the game don't stretch that far.
Christopher was actually listening to the game on his computer today - - I guess old loyalties die hard.

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:47:55 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I have friends that have always been Braves fans. while always rooted for the Indians.
- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:49:00 (GMT)
Jim :
Holly,
Someone named Hendrickson sent me an email wondering about her ancestors. Thought they may have come from Bavaria but also said they came from Austria. Must be Gottschee because Bavaria was not part of the AustroHungarian empire in the 1800's. I may or may not be related (who knows??). Just trying to help her out.

- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:50:11 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I just wanted to be able to match the links up.
I think my luck has changed as I think
Jakob Petschauer of Neuberg 51 and Margaret Gergar are the parents of Ludwig b. 27 Aug 1874. She might want to check her records again.

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:52:41 (GMT)
Franz:
Hi Holly, you are really into history digging. Good for all of us.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:53:37 (GMT)
Jim :
Is that the same Ludwig who married Rosalia Stangl and had several children in Neuberg#66.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:55:10 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Franz,
I Love linking people. I have helped so many people find there roots. Have you been to my site?

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:55:51 (GMT)
Franz:
Holly, no I have not ventured to your site as of now. I will make up for it.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 01:57:44 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
I don't know. do you have a marriage date for them?

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:00:54 (GMT)
Franz:
Mary Thurman, what's new in wonderful Colorado. Our property association has a meeting in July. Had hoped to be able to attend. However have to fly to Maui for a convention. Difficult choice.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:01:37 (GMT)
Ridy :
Franz - what's the choice between Maui and Colorado?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:03:52 (GMT)
Jim :
No marriage date and her last name may be Samide and not Stangl. I got her last name as Stangl from the TSCH marriage file but that is not 100% accurate. I just checked the 1941 resettlement record and there is a Rosalia Petschauer nee Samide in Neuberg#66 in 1941. Her father was Andreas Samide and she was from Mitterdorf.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:06:44 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, Maui would be great in winter, Colorado is quite exciting all year. Kind of reminds me of Austria or Gottschee.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:07:05 (GMT)
Jim :
The marriage information was for her son, Franz Petschauer when he married in 1941.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:07:53 (GMT)
Ridy :
By the way - for those of you who are hoping to come to the Gottscheer Treffen but have not yet made your reservations, the hotel will only give the special prices if your reservations are made by July 31. After that it'll be back to regular pricing.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:08:07 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi everyone!
We are late getting on tonight because we were making plans to attend the July 4th picnic at the Gottscheer Club in Cleveland - but its on July 2!

- mod6.new-philly.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:08:56 (GMT)
Jim :
Franz, tough choice to make. Take the business write off and run. If both are business related, it becomes a tough choice again.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:09:50 (GMT)
Franz:
Hi Ed and Mary.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:10:09 (GMT)
Ridy :
Have any of you ever taken a cruise? My sisters and I would like to take one, and my choice is the Mediterranean, but what we'd like and what we can afford seem to be worlds apart. Any tips?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:11:27 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, you are right again, I will uncle S.. help me pay for the trip to Maui.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:11:43 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
no info in the Tsch. Banns. Dead end.

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:12:03 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy Mediteranian sounds nice. I liked the cruise to Alaska.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:13:25 (GMT)
Ridy :
Hi Ed and Mary!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:13:35 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Ed & Mary,

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:14:37 (GMT)
Jim :
Holly, Thanks for the try. You agree that we have to be close on both. Will be signing off for now. Guten abend to all.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:14:54 (GMT)
Jim :
Hello, Ed & Mary. Have a good week.
- 1Cust37.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:15:17 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
bye Jim,
I agree, lots to do, and heavy day tomorrow. Take care everyone!

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:15:48 (GMT)
Franz:
Good Night Jim. Gute Nacht.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:16:51 (GMT)
Ridy :
My cousin from Nürnberg came over and took a cruise to Alaska, and he also was very impressed. The only thing that seemed to bother him was the fact that more than half the people on the cruise were Germans!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:16:52 (GMT)
Ridy :
Good night, Holly and Jim! See you next week.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:17:30 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Ridy,
We gave the copy of the photo of your husband golfing in January to our daughter and son-in-law today. They got a kick out of it. They also said they have a photo of him golfing in the snow!

- mod6.new-philly.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:19:12 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, seems like the German tourists are everywhere. They show their presents in the west as well.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:19:18 (GMT)
Ridy :
Glad to hear Ray's not the only golf nut around!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:21:56 (GMT)
Ridy :
Time for me to call it a night.
Gute Nacht, everybody.

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:24:33 (GMT)
Franz:
RIDY, GUEATEI NOCHT, schluf guet. hoeffentlich tramasch due guet.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:26:33 (GMT)
Franz:
Good Night, whoever is still on line. Hope to chat next week.
- 1Cust85.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:30:45 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy: There seem to be a lot of "golf nuts." Our oldest grandson told us he and his dad golfed in the rain today and had fun! But I've seen some pretty soaked fisherman in our family also.
We may not make it to the Treffen. We learned tonight the bus leaves from Cleveland at 6 a.m. Saturday and leaves from Toronto Sunday at 11 p.m. Since we are two hours away from Cleveland, it may be a bit more than we want to try. But we may change our minds. We had such a good time at the Treffen in Cleveland last year.

- mod6.new-philly.net - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 02:30:52 (GMT)
Mary Thruman:
Hi Franz we have been gone all day and am reading all the posts. Colorado is dry right now, but has not been too hot this week. I hope you vote for Colorado so we can meet. We will be home the middle of July but gone the last two weeks of July to Minnesota. Maui will be hot hot hot in July, Colorado is better!!
- spider-th034.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 26, 2000 at 03:32:30 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi everyone!
- slip-32-101-148-254.me.us.prserv.net - Monday, July 03, 2000 at 01:15:08 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Helloooooo, where is everybody?
- 1Cust107.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, July 03, 2000 at 02:08:55 (GMT)
Franz:
See you in three weeks, if everyone survives the fourth.
- 1Cust183.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, July 03, 2000 at 02:20:57 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
anyone left. just checking in.

- 1Cust3.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 03, 2000 at 02:21:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Have a good week to everyone.
- 1Cust3.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 03, 2000 at 02:26:16 (GMT)
FRANZ:
Jim, thanks for checking. Iwas just about to call it an evening. Looks like the Gottscheer are making a long weekend.
- 1Cust25.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, July 03, 2000 at 02:26:30 (GMT)
FRANZ:
Jim, I am sorry I missed you. Have a pleasant week.
- 1Cust25.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, July 03, 2000 at 02:30:45 (GMT)
FRANZ:
Jim, thanks for checking. Iwas just about to call it an evening. Looks like the Gottscheer are making a long weekend.
- 1Cust25.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, July 03, 2000 at 02:31:19 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Guten Abend: Sorry I couldn't log on Sunday night. Busy. Hope all are well. Did I miss much??
- KSCYA010-0915.splitrock.net - Tuesday, July 04, 2000 at 01:57:02 (GMT)
Franz:
Hi Margret, you missed as much as I did,----nothing. enjoy you week.
- 1Cust146.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Wednesday, July 05, 2000 at 01:27:48 (GMT)
Franz:
Hi Margret, you missed as much as I did,----nothing. enjoy you week.
- 1Cust146.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Wednesday, July 05, 2000 at 01:29:18 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi anyone here yet?
- spider-wc021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 00:59:35 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Mary,
We missed the Chat last week because we attended the Fourth of July picnic at the Gottscheer Club in Cleveland. It was really a lot of fun _ good music, dancing and food.

- mod33.new-philly.net - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:22:18 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Yes. I'm here. Late, but here. Guten Abend. Weather in KCMO is awful. So hot and humid, you almost melt. How's the wether with all of you?
- KSCYA010-0622.splitrock.net - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:26:20 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi it is hot and dry in Colorado
- spider-wc021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:27:35 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie,
Are you on tonight? Haven't heard from you in a while. Hope Nancy and Krista are well. How's your new job? Your mom said you were going to work for some other airline--a passenger carrier. Right??

- KSCYA010-0622.splitrock.net - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:27:58 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
We were in Omaha Neb last weekend visiting Peschel relatives.
- spider-wc021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:28:24 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
They were very happy with the book I almost have done.
- spider-wc021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:28:58 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi everybody!
How are you all?

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:29:54 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Margaret,
Actually the weather in Ohio has been pleasant, but weather forecast says heat and humidity are on the way. The weather for last Sunday's Cleveland Gottscheer Club picnic was great. It really brought out a crowd.

- mod33.new-philly.net - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:32:16 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Dear Ed and Mary: You were so fortunate to be at the Cleveland Gottscheer picnic. That is one of the most beautiful clubs I have ever seen. Ane they did it all with volunteer labor! I know the food was super!
- KSCYA010-0622.splitrock.net - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:34:40 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Ridy!
Hope you and your family are all fine. Many people at last Sunday's picnic were talking about making plans to come to Toronto.
Mary _ What are you including in your book? With the help of our oldest daughter, we did booklets for the last family reunion containing old family pictures, genealogy sheets, maps of Gottschee, etc. They seemed to make a hit with relatives.

- mod33.new-philly.net - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:36:32 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must log off. Hope to chat with you next Sunday. Auf Wiedersehen und bleib gesund.
- KSCYA010-0622.splitrock.net - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:40:27 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ed and Mary I am putting in old pictures, short history of Gottschee and some maps. family group sheets etc It is 300 pages right now, and have about 50 more pages to do.
- spider-wc021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:40:51 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight Margaret. Have a good week. Yes, the Cleveland club is a beautiful place and everyone is so friendly.
Mary: Sounds like your book is going to be very nice. We didn't put that much effort in ours, but since none of the relatives knew of their Gottscheer heritage before we started digging around, I think it was interesting to them.

- mod33.new-philly.net - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:44:37 (GMT)
Ridy:
We just got back from Kitchener, which is my Canadian home town, and about 70 miles west of Toronto. My sister was having a large garden party, but unfortunately it poured with rain from about 9:30 this morning until just before 6:00 p.m. - and the rain kept all but one of our old aunts away. I had been looking forward to seeing them. I had baked for a whole week beforehand because my two sisters are not much interested in baking. But it was nevertheless fun to see a lot of the cousins and some old friends whom we've known since we all came to Canada over half a century ago. My daughter and son-in-law were there, but Christopher had gone back to England last evening.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:45:44 (GMT)
Ridy:
Mary
Your book sounds like a wonderful project!

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:53:25 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Ridy,
The family party must have been a lot of fun. Last year at the Treffen in Cleveland, we met a very nice family from Kitchener. Our oldest daughter had become friends with their daughter, Sonja Biselli, through the Internet. Her father is very much interested in genealogy and he thought we may be related through the Maussers.
By the way, we recently reread your story in the Gottschee Tree on St. Nicholas. It is such a nice story.

- mod33.new-philly.net - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:57:24 (GMT)
Ridy:
Ed and Mary -
Sonja's mother is my first cousin, and their whole family was at the party, including Sonja. She's expecting their second child around the time of the Treffen in Toronto.

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 01:59:36 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy:
We thought you might know the family _ but didn't know they were your relatives! But Ed says what can you expect from a Gottscheer! As our friend from Cleveland, Margaret Cmarek, says, "We're just all good Gottscheer cousins!"

- mod33.new-philly.net - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 02:05:09 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Mary:
When do you expect to have your book completed? Will family members receive copies? I'm sure it will be very interesting. How long have you been working on it?
We want to order a copy of Jim Heiman's Unterwarmberg Family Book, but it is not quite reading yet.

- mod33.new-philly.net - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 02:09:39 (GMT)
:
I agree with your friend - and I think if you dig deep enough you'll find most of the Gottscheers are related in one way or another. My husband refers to us as 'a bunch of kissin' cousins numbering in the thousands!"
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 02:11:39 (GMT)
Ridy:
Sorry - that blank was me. I've been knocked off the Internet 3x now, and I think I had better turn the computer off and see what the problem is.
Good night until next Sunday

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 02:13:44 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight everyone! Have a good week!
- mod33.new-philly.net - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 02:16:13 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there,
Sorry I missed everyone but we were having thunderstorms all evening in Northern Ohio so I had to stay off the computer. Hope all is well.

- ashfnsi-50.suite224.net - Monday, July 10, 2000 at 03:00:02 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Sorry I did not answer Sunday night, but I was having trouble getting through. I hope to be done with my Peschel book in the next month or so. Several relatives are ordering a copy. See you next week.
- spider-th043.proxy.aol.com - Tuesday, July 11, 2000 at 03:50:03 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Is anyone around tonite?
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:17:04 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello!
anybody in the Plauderzimmer tonight?

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:17:54 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Mary! Glad to know I'm not the only one!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:18:33 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Ridy I have missed the chat a lot lately. Our Sundays have been busy.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:19:44 (GMT)
Ridy :
I recently read an article by Martha Hutter "Die ersten Amerika-Gottscheer" and I wonder if anyone has an e-mail address for her. Great article, and it would be great if it was also available in english.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:21:15 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Do you know if she has email?
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:22:47 (GMT)
Ridy :
Mary - I look forward to the chat every Sunday and it's been a while since we've had a lively discussion. Wish all the phantoms who listen in would join us!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:23:11 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I did a search and did not turn up an email for her. Does not mean that she does not have one, just could not find it.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:24:11 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
See, I cant just listen...have to join in..lol
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:25:02 (GMT)
Ridy :
I don't know if she has e-mail, but I hope she does. According to the bio with the article she's active in the Gottscheer Relief group in New York.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:25:07 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello all. I'm late. Sorry. Hope all are well.
- KSCYA010-1028.splitrock.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:25:37 (GMT)
Ridy :
In her article, Martha mentions that a Gottscheer by the name of Johann Kramer even fought in the American Civil War!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:27:17 (GMT)
Ridy :
Grüß Dich, Margaret!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:27:55 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie: I haven't heard from you in a while. Get lots of email from your mom. Hope your new job is going well. Tell Nancy and Krista hi for me.
- KSCYA010-1028.splitrock.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:27:56 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Please translate. I would like to add it to my list of handy German phrases. Thanks
- KSCYA010-1028.splitrock.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:28:56 (GMT)
Ridy :
"Greetings to you" - or just "Hi" - informal between friends
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:29:47 (GMT)
Ridy :
Mary - when do you find time to work on your book?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:30:40 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy I have been spending many hours every day on it.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:31:43 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I started the research on the Peschel family about last August.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:32:09 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
My husband will be glad when it is done, but I have my other families to do then.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:32:52 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello everyone.
- spider-wn072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:32:59 (GMT)
Ridy :
I admire your dedication, Mary. I wish it came in pill form!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:33:12 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Where is everyone? Guess I'd better log off. Work to do. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib Gesund.
- KSCYA010-1028.splitrock.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:33:17 (GMT)
Ridy :
Hi Jim! How did you like the rain I sent down your way?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:34:04 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy..I am addicted to it I guess. And I have learned so much history in the process.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:34:29 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Margaret. I hope it wasn't my aftershave. Went to dinner tonight and had goulash soup, smoked trout, & schnitzl ala Holstein. Nice bottle of Riesling as well.
- spider-wn072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:35:37 (GMT)
Ridy :
The article I referred to was published by the Gottscheer group in Graz on the occasion of their 80th anniversary. It's a slim book, but it contains a lot of very interesting information.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:36:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Thank you for the rain. We needed it but now you can stop. Mary, it is definitely an addiction. Did you see my note about the Iowa Gottscheers?
- spider-wn072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:36:31 (GMT)
Ridy :
Jim - 800 calories a day for the rest of the week!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:36:54 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
No Jim I did not. When did you post it.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:37:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I may have posted it earlier in the chat room but here goes. Note obtained online about Westphalia, Iowa. Seems that at least some of the original Gottscheers and Germans to Iowa in the 1870's were due to recruitment by a Chicago based railroad looking for German Catholics to work on the railroad. A partial list of the names shows some Gottscheer names like Petsche and Gorsche.
- spider-wn072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:41:30 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello everyone!
Hope you are all fine. We have had rain, rain and more rain since Friday! We are a little late getting on tonight. To Jim Heimann _ We want to get a copy of your Underwarmberg Family Book, but learned they are not quite ready.

- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:42:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I came in contact with some Dubuque relatives with some living in Iowa and some in Wisconsin. Waiting for more information.
- spider-wn072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:42:16 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Well That Petsche family is also related to me, so that could explain why they all came there.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:43:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Yes, E & M. Kate said they are working on the family book as we speak. The Unterwarmberg marriage book is also helpful with very few errors in there.
- spider-wn072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:43:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The later arrivals may have come there just because they already had relatives there. I am now working on putting some of the Unterlag marriages in my file. No relatives that I can tell but the more I put in there, the more I can give others a helping hand. Some intermarriages with the Nesseltal crowd as well as some with parishes outside the southern half of Gottschee with towns like Tscheplach.
- spider-wn072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:45:31 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Except my families were all farmers after they got here.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:46:42 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim do you know where on line you found the info.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:47:37 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
To Jim: We have the Unterwarmberg marriage book in which we found many family marriages. Now we're looking forward to the family book. Mary, sounds like you are still working hard on your book.
- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:48:04 (GMT)
Ridy :
Martha Hutter writes that a Gottscheer by the name of Kump took advantage of the Homestead Act of 1862 and acquired a parcel of land parcel of land in Kansas back in 1878!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:48:17 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim have you come across anyone with the last name of Smrekar in the records you have been working on??
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:48:26 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I have a Smrekar relative, and she was not born in Tschernembl Parish like the rest of my family, as I can not find her inthe birth records from there.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:50:07 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ed and Mary...I am trying to have the book ready this fall..have lots of realtives who want a copy.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:51:06 (GMT)
Ridy :
Mary - that sounds like a Slovenian name -- have you checked any nearby villages?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:51:24 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy..I have not had a time to order records from any other parishes yet. Was hoping some on could give me a clue, as I feel I am looking for a needle in a haystack. Her village was not in the marriage record.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:52:54 (GMT)
Ridy :
Mary - it's even possible that her husband brought her back from wherever he was serving his military duty -- that happened quite often - and if that were the case, you really are looking for a needle in a haystack, unless you would know where he might have served.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:55:49 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Ridy! Our daughter, Teri, said she knew you and Sonja were related and was happy to hear of her expected "little one."
Mary _ I'm sure your relatives will be happy to get the book. When we gave out our little booklets at a family reunion, many relatives poured over them. This is a big week for our family. Our "baby" (we can't let him know we said that) is getting married Saturday in Sacred Heart Church in New Philadelphia. Our "baby" is 26 and the last of our six kids to leave the nest!

- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:57:31 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy..Well, the marrige was in 1800..would he of been in military service then.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 01:57:46 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
My oldest daughter was married for the second time, and their reception was today so it was a busy weekend here also.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:00:59 (GMT)
Jim:
Mary T, I found it on the Rootsweb.com site for Shelby county, Iowa. As far as the Smrekar name is concerned, I have only a couple. Locations include Nesseltal#44, Naklo#11, Naklo#13 (possibly also in Nesseltal ---- I am not familiar with the name)& Kreschdorf in Semitsch.
- spider-wn072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:01:54 (GMT)
Ridy :
E & M -- My 'baby' will be celebrating his 30th birthday on Tuesday and I wish someone, other than me, would tell him it's time to get married and settle down!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:03:38 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
We met Martha Hutter last year at the Cleveland Treffen. She introduced herself and was interested in the way we spell our surname. She and Kate Pruente had talked previously about the different spellings of Gottschee surnames.
- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:03:39 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim, this was a Maria Smrekar probably born about 1780. I have found some other Smrekar names from Rodine, but none I can connect to me. thanks the info on the Railroad stuff..I will check it out.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:04:15 (GMT)
Ridy :
E & M - do you have any idea if Martha has an e-mail address?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:05:30 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy:
There is no e-mail address listed for Martha in our GHGA list of addresses, etc. You could possibly e-mail some of the GHGA directors for info.

- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:09:42 (GMT)
Ridy :
E & M - I was also trying to see if I could flush out some of the phantom chat room guests - but no luck so far.
My e-mail address is: ridy@home.com

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:11:53 (GMT)
Jim:
Ridy, you wily coyote. No luck in drawing them out. I posted a message on the bulletin board looking for surname variations but have only had one response. I wish more had answered.
- spider-wn072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:14:50 (GMT)
Ridy :
That's a new one, Jim; I've been called a sly fox before, but wily cayote is new. I like it!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:19:22 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Jim: One of Ed's relatives likes to tease him about not knowing how to spell his last name correctly! Our surname was never officially changed _ it just happened!
By the way, featured during next Saturday's reception will be "The German Wedding Polka!"

- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:20:22 (GMT)
Ridy :
That's a new one on me, E & M -- don't know any piece called "The German Wedding Polka" - I must search for it!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:22:01 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I could have also used -- you rascally rabbit. All terms of endearment.
- 1Cust178.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:22:39 (GMT)
Ridy :
Now you're going for alliterations, Jim....show some respect for your elders! eh?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:24:22 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy: "The German Wedding Polka" was recorded by the Hank Haller Band of Cleveland area, which specializes in German polkas. His wife and the drummer in his band are Gottscheers.
- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:25:55 (GMT)
Ridy :
I thought everybody in Cleveland danced to Frankie Jankovic!
Or was that before your time?

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:27:24 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Jim and Ridy:
Shouldn't that term be "wascally wabbit?"

- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:27:35 (GMT)
Ridy :
Did everybody have a bottle of Riesling for dinner????
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:28:36 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
NO I had white Zinfindal tonite. but I like white German wines, especially the sweet ones.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:31:38 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy: We love Frankie too! We have his tapes and a video! Our grandkids love to dance the Chicken Dance. There are a number of good polka bands in the Cleveland and Youngstown areas and some come to the Ohio Swiss Festival near here every year!
- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:31:41 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
They do the chicken dance in Minnesota where I am from too.
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:34:00 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Mary T.
I think they love to do the Chicken Dance everywhere!

- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:35:47 (GMT)
Ridy :
I can see we're going to have quite a party when you all get here for the Treffen on Labor Day! Don't forget to get your reservations in before the end of July, or you'll have to pay the regular price for your hotel rooms!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:35:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Stand corrected --- wascally wabbit is right. The infamous chicken dance. Can only do that one if my joints are loose.
- 1Cust178.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:36:36 (GMT)
Ridy :
Correction: Labor Day weekend - not just Day
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:36:42 (GMT)
Ridy :
I gave up dancing about 20 years ago, so I'll man the cameras!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:39:16 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I sure I was going to be there for it!!
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:40:27 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy:
I don't think we're going to be able to make it to the Treffen. We got the details on the trip when we were at the July 4th picnic at Cleveland Gottscheer Club and don't think we're going to be able to make necessary arrangements.

- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:41:01 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Going to sign off for now. Have a good week.
- 1Cust178.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:42:42 (GMT)
Ridy :
Hey - there are people coming from Klagenfurt and Graz in Austria - among others -- we've got to make a good showing!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:42:54 (GMT)
Ridy :
Gütei Nocht, Jim!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:43:29 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
To Ridy:
We would really like to attend the Treffen, but you'll be happy to know there is a large group from Cleveland coming. They were talking about it at the picnic.
Better sign off for this week! Goodnight everyone!

- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:45:32 (GMT)
Ridy :
Good night, it's been fun as usual.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:47:11 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Good night everyone..
- spider-th062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 17, 2000 at 02:47:40 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Guten Abend!
Anyone else sitting in front of their computer on what has been a gorgeous summer day up here in Toronto?

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:26:31 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Ridy!
Just checked in and saw your message. We had a beautiful weekend here also and our son's wedding went well. Now we can all relax!

- mod20.new-philly.net - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:34:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Maybe I am and maybe I ain't sitting in front of the computer. Weather is good in NJ as well.
- spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:34:28 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, All. Late, but here. What's going on?
- KSCYA010-0883.splitrock.net - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:35:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Ed and Mary. I can't believe the beautiful weather we have been having this summer. My veggies would like it a hotter but they can wait.
- spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:35:38 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie, are you on? Franz, where are you? Jim, what's new? Sorry I won't make the treffen. You will all have a ball.
- KSCYA010-0883.splitrock.net - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:37:25 (GMT)
Ridy :
Glad to hear the wedding went well, E & M!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:37:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Margaret. Helmut Stalzer was in Austria and brought back two pictures of my Schauer family. One daughter married a Stalzer while the son married my grandfather. I only had one other picture of my grandfather before this.
- spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:37:45 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Jim and Margaret,
Here in Ohio, we haven't had a day this summer when it reached 90 degrees. That's almost unheard of and I think they're predicting that August will be cooler than normal also.

- mod20.new-philly.net - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:38:15 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guess I'll log off. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- KSCYA010-0883.splitrock.net - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:38:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Eddie is probably enjoying the New England summer. I wonder if it might be too cool up there.
- spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:38:36 (GMT)
Ridy :
Looks to me like I'm not doing a good job getting people to come to the Treffen. Doesn't anyone care about out cheap Canadian Dollar?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:39:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, do you have problems receiving messages? Sometimes it seems as if you are not getting them.
- spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:39:28 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim, I'm back . Didn't get off, before I saw your message. Helmutl is my cousin Ilse's husband. Lots of Stalzers in the clan. Great Grandma was Ursula Stalzer.
- KSCYA010-0883.splitrock.net - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:40:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, I am still a possible. Still discussing things with Linda. If I can keep the date semiopen, I may be able to do it in the last minute. Since we would stay in Toronto rather than near the airport, it may be possible.
- spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:41:54 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy:
We really wanted to plan to come to the Treffen, but found it wasn't going to work out with Ed's work schedule. I know a lot of Clevelanders are planning to go. Hope you all have as much fun as we had last year at Cleveland!

- mod20.new-philly.net - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:43:11 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Good night, again. See you next Sunday.
- KSCYA010-0883.splitrock.net - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:43:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, Stalzers are all over the world. It was nice of him to get those pictures and send them to me. He even talked with his sister about my grandfather and relayed some comments. I never met my grandfather and he died when I was a baby.
- spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:43:17 (GMT)
Ridy :
Yes - I think there are 3 or 4 bus loads coming from Cleveland, and a similar number from New York. They're expecting a large crowd. Glad to hear you're still a possible, Jim.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:47:11 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy:
We need your help. A Gottscheer friend wrote this message on a wedding card for our son and his wife. Can you help us translate? "Wir wunschn ai viele guete Juern poinonder." I think we got it typed in correctly. Thanks for your help.

- mod20.new-philly.net - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:51:31 (GMT)
Ridy:
It reads: We wish you many happy years together

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:52:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Little hesitant to bring Linda and Amanda up to Toronto for a Gottscheer get-together. I can just imagine their eyes glazing over as I pick your brain for information.
- spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:53:26 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim -
You'd really have to let them loose somewhere else. . . .
Do they like theatre, shopping, baseball (the Jays will be in town), Art Galleries, Museum, Zoo, . . . there's always a lot going on in Toronto

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:55:12 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Thanks, Ridy. We'll pass on the translation. Two of our grandsons who have studied a little German had part of it figured out, but weren't sure about the entire message.
- mod20.new-philly.net - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:56:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
We have been checking out the Web page and Linda is showing some interest. Just leave out the shopping stuff.....
- spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:57:33 (GMT)
Ridy:
I've been practicing my Gottscheerisch myself today, E&M -
every so often my husbands gets into that mood where he keeps asking how to say something in Gottscheerisch, and today was one of those days. . . . (drives me nuts!)

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 01:58:55 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - don't be so fast to rule out shopping! We have some very fine shopping areas and the prices are vey good compared to yours. Also - you can claim the 15% tax which gets added here when you go back home.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 02:00:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:

shopping is the dark side. Actually, I can only tolerate it in bits and pieces.

- spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 02:04:15 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gütei Nocht, ich hon nöch ollerhond Urbeit. . .
(good night, I still have all sorts of work)

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 02:05:25 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - trust me - men only get in the way on shopping excursions! All they're good for is handing over the cash and carrying the bags.
Take care - must go now.

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 02:07:01 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy:
Was the message on the card written in German or Gottscheerisch? Our German vocabulary is limited to "ja" and "nein!" Nice that your husband is so interested. We liked his description of Gottscheers as "kissing cousins numbering in the thousands!"

- mod20.new-philly.net - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 02:08:51 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight everyone. Want to catch the news to see if the Indians won today.
Jim _ we are looking forward to getting your Unterwarmberg Family Book.

- mod20.new-philly.net - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 02:16:08 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It was Gottscheerisch. A German linguistic subdivision lost in the wilds of the Karst.
- spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 02:16:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night. Mary Thurman, if you sign on, drop me an email. I have a couple of Peschl questions. Starting to go through the Unterdeutschau marriage file.
- spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 02:17:17 (GMT)
Franz mausser:
Just got in, anyone still talking?
- 1Cust242.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 02:26:15 (GMT)
"Ike":
Can someone print the address of the Gottscheer Zeitung the one from Klagenfurt or the name and phone number of the person in the US that will accept subscription orders.
An e-mail address would be helpful.

- mdmgrp1-184.accesstoledo.net - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 04:27:51 (GMT)
Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Here is the address for the Gottscheer Zeitung printed in Klagenfurt, Austria:

Gottscheer Zeitung
Postfach 102
A-9010 Klagenfurt, Austria, Europe
Editor: Mr. Viktor Stalzer

Local contact:
Mr. Robert Kraker
Gottscheer Relief Assn.
657 Fairview Avenue
Ridgewood, NY 11385


- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 24, 2000 at 12:26:22 (GMT)
"Ike":
Thanks for the information.
- mdmgrp2-249.accesstoledo.net - Tuesday, July 25, 2000 at 05:55:58 (GMT)
Gary Verholtz:
Looking for family surname: Vrhovec, Finc - from Slovenia.
Great-grandparents left Visnja Gora, Slovenia in 1903 for the U.S.

- 1Cust19.tnt6.ontario.ca.da.uu.net - Wednesday, July 26, 2000 at 04:25:01 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Guten Abend, any Plauderers out there?
- 1Cust113.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:06:51 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, All. Hello, Franz. Guten Abend to you, also. Hope everyone had a super week.
- KSCYA010-0959.splitrock.net - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:08:59 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Where is everyone tonight?
- KSCYA010-0959.splitrock.net - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:18:17 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie Stalzer: How come you never log on anymore? Hope Nancy and Krista are well.
- KSCYA010-0959.splitrock.net - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:20:01 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Will log off. Auf Wiedersehen. Blieb gesund.
- KSCYA010-0959.splitrock.net - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:26:13 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Margaret, are you still there?
- 1Cust187.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:31:25 (GMT)
Ridy:
Guten Abend, Plauderer! Who is on tonight?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:35:25 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Guten Abend Ridy, I have been on and off. Nichts los heute abend.
- 1Cust187.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:37:41 (GMT)
Ridy:
How was your holiday in Hawaii - or where was it you went ?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:39:27 (GMT)
Ridy:
How was your holiday in Hawaii - or where was it you went ?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:39:27 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, yes it was Hawaii. It was very nice once I got the business out of the way. Stayed 6 days on Maui, three days on Molokai and Lanai respectively.
- 1Cust187.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:42:19 (GMT)
Ridy:
Sounds like a lovely holiday, Franz. I've never been there but drool over everybody else's pictures of it. Are you coming to the Treffen in Toronto?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:44:26 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, I am still working on it. I am not shure.
- 1Cust187.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:47:42 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - too bad you live in Chicago -- we're having a Mausser reunion (the Maussers of Ebental now of Kitchener) at a cousin's cottage on Lake Huron next Sunday.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:49:48 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Ridy and Franz,
Sorry we didn't get on the Chat earlier, but we are watching the Browns and Philadelphia. It is halftime and the Browns are winning!

- mod21.new-philly.net - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:51:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
I'm tempted to ask what the Browns play -- but I know.... Isn't it a bit early for football?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:52:45 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Ed and Mary, it looked like everyone was gone. Nice of you to join us.
- 1Cust187.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:53:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gute Nacht everybody...It's been a long day for yours truly.
See you next week!

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:56:53 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good Night all.
- 1Cust187.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 01:58:11 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Tonight is the Browns' first pre-season game. They are playing well tonight, so maybe this will be a fun season. Our oldest son, Doug, returned today from Ashabula, Ohio, where the 15 and 16-year-olds he coaches were playing in the state baseball tournament. They didn't win, but ended up third in the state of Ohio.
- mod21.new-philly.net - Monday, July 31, 2000 at 02:00:02 (GMT)
ERWIN KUMP:
FATHER ANDREAS KUMP, MOTHER MARIA MAUSSER
16 CLAIRMONT AVE.
JOLIET, IL 60433
LOOKING FOR RELATIVES

- ro04-24-131-177-122.ce.mediaone.net - Friday, August 04, 2000 at 17:26:20 (GMT)
ERWIN KUMP:
FATHER ANDREAS KUMP, MOTHER MARIA MAUSSER, 2 BROTHERS JOHN
& JOSEPH, 16 CLAIRMONT AVE., JOLIET, IL. 60433
LOOKING FOR RELATIVES PLEASE WRITE ME AT ABOVE ADDRESS

- ro04-24-131-177-122.ce.mediaone.net - Friday, August 04, 2000 at 17:34:04 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, everyone. Slow night?? Anyone out there?
- KSCYA010-0698.splitrock.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:11:52 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Margaret;
it's been slow more often lately -- must be due to summer holidays

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:12:54 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Thank goodness someone logged on. I was ready to sign off.
- KSCYA010-0698.splitrock.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:13:48 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
My 3 Jonke cousins will leave 9-8-00 for Klagenfurt. Then they will drive through Slovenia, making stops at what they hope are still some remnants of our family's villages. Wish I were going along.
- KSCYA010-0698.splitrock.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:15:18 (GMT)
Ridy:
I feel the same way, Margaret. I'll be glad when people get back to their computers in the fall. Actually, I had a big scare this past week. My computer died. Couldn't imagine life without it. It was a happy day when it worked again!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:16:31 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Ridy and Margaret,
We had very heavy rains today in Ohio. We attended a family reunion today and had a very nice time. Luckily it was held in a hall. We heard on the radio this morning that one reunion had been canceled because the picnic grounds were under water! Ridy, how was the Mausser reunion?

- mod32.new-philly.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:16:43 (GMT)
Ridy:
What village was your family from, Margaret? I've only been back to Gottschee once, in 1963. There's nothing left of Kukendorf to go back to.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:17:52 (GMT)
:
Ridy: Father born in Kummerdorf. Grandmother (omah) born Litenbach (?) Omah named Jonke before and after marriage.
- KSCYA010-0698.splitrock.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:20:07 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Ed and Mary! We were supposed to have thunderstorm today but they didn't materialize; that pleased my husband because you know where he was! I didn't get to the Mausser reunion, and I'm waiting to hear how the weather was up at the Lake. My #1 reason for going would have been to chat with my Tante Sofie, but she ended up in hospital two weeks ago, and is in a Nursing home now....She's 90 years old, but sharp as a nail, and I still have lots of questions to ask her.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:20:48 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Yes Ridy, you can learn so much from older relatives. We, like many others, didn't get interested until many of them had passed away. However, once we got interested, some of our older relatives gave us information that was invaluable. We're trying to record some of the info so it will be available for future generations.
- mod32.new-philly.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:25:08 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: When the last 2 aunts from the "older generation" pass away, I will lose the last link to Gottschee. They are late 80's and late 70's and lived through the war there. What a resource will be lost!!
- KSCYA010-0698.splitrock.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:28:53 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Margaret:
Ed's family seemed to know nothing of their Gottscheer heritage, but one aunt told us her parents and uncle talked a lot about a place called "Red Stone." That really helped, as we eventually learned his grandfather and great-uncle came from Rotenstein in Gottschee.

- mod32.new-philly.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:35:13 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Work to do. Will say, "Gute Nacht. Bleib gesund!. See you next Sunday.
- KSCYA010-0698.splitrock.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:36:31 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi again - just got off the phone with my sister, and we're faced with an interesting problem. I don't have a birth certificate (neither do my sisters) and to collect my Old Age Pension, starting next year, I have been told that I must have one. Wonder if anyone knows if it's possible to get a copy of a birth or baptismal certificate from Slovenia?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:49:08 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good night, Margaret.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:50:01 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Hi Ridy,
What about a copy of the church record on the LDS films?
Are you on that?

- sdn-ar-001nyhempP215.dialsprint.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:55:47 (GMT)
Ridy:
Getting back to the topic of older relatives - I still have 5 aunts who range in age from mid-70s to 90, and I've been trying to collect information from them. Unfortunately, I left it far too late to get interested in my own history, but it's too late to cry over spilt milk. The sad thing is that my own memory is often a bit hazy and I need to have verification from the aunts every now and again.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:57:17 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes Ridy you can get a birth certificate from Slovenia.
- spider-wo053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:59:43 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi John! You're back. . . .
I'm on those records, because I was born in 1936 and the records go to 1941. I wrote last week and asked if they would accept a copy of those records, but I haven't heard back yet. Isn't it amazing that in this day and age we can find a record or our existence in old sorts of places. . .

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 01:59:46 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Mary!
Have you had experience in getting records from Slovenia?
Do you write to Ljubljana(can't spell that word!) Laibach!

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:00:45 (GMT)
John Sorli:
I think our memory gets a little hazy. That's why I wish I wrote more down. I still have lots of info that I've gotten from family that I never seem to have time to write down.
- sdn-ar-001nyhempP215.dialsprint.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:01:47 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes That is where you write. I have a copy that someone else sent for of one of our mutual reltives.
- spider-wo053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:01:51 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I can find the address for you if you dont have it.
- spider-wo053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:03:10 (GMT)
Ridy:
Amazing! Now all I have to do is find out to whom to write!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:03:49 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Yes, I'm back. I finally got a computer after being away almost 6 weeks. I was using a company laptop before but had to return it.
- sdn-ar-001nyhempP215.dialsprint.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:05:49 (GMT)
Ridy:
Mary - that would be wonderful, if it's not too much bother.
I don't have a clue to whom I'd write. My cousin was over there last year (he has since died) and he got a copy of his own birth certificate, but he was born in Laibach. I didn't realize they'd have the records for Gottschee.

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:05:51 (GMT)
Ridy:
John - did you get a laptop for yourself?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:07:09 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
It may take me a couple of days to dig up the address. I know i got it once from George Plautz.
- spider-wo053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:07:34 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I also know that Pat Sullivan has the address.
- spider-wo053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:08:54 (GMT)
Ridy:
Mary - a couple of days won't be a problem at all. I have to get the documentation in by November.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:09:22 (GMT)
Ridy:
Mary - a couple of days won't be a problem at all. I have to get the documentation in by November.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:09:24 (GMT)
Ridy:
that was a hiccup! Sorry!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:10:54 (GMT)
Ridy:
Mary - are there any forest fires near you?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:11:54 (GMT)
John Sorli:
I didn't get a laptop. My brother-in-law was getting a new souped up super model and gave us his old one,which works
really well and serves my purposes until I can afford a new
one. Then we'll give this one to the children who are 7 and 5.

- sdn-ar-001nyhempP215.dialsprint.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:12:13 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy I dont see the address here, so I will have to email Pat Sullivan and see if he will sent it to me again. He was going to be gone a lot this summer, but should have it fairly soon.
- spider-wo053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:13:38 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
No there are no fires close to us. And the one at Mesa Verde across the state, is finally out. we have a lot of have from the fires in Arizona and California tho.
- spider-wo053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:14:37 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
That was supposed to read a lot of haze from the fires.
- spider-wo053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:15:14 (GMT)
Doreen:
Hi, I have a question I'm hoping someone to help with. If my grandmother was born in US & she married a Gottschee native, would she have to give her US citizenship up? I always thought she was born in US but now found a certificate of citizenship for her.
- spider-tl064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:15:28 (GMT)
Ridy:
John - my son just recently gave me a new computer, with all the latest bells and whistles - most of which don't work yet! It crashed while he was setting it up, and he didn't have time to bring it all back to life at that point. Now I'm waiting for his next extended visit, which may be in October, possibly not until Christmas. It's a bit of a pain! By the way, do you know Rich has a new e-mail address?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:15:38 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Ridy- I had a friend and his daughter in town this week from Scotland. He was in Kitchener the week before. He and his wife were married rhere in 1969,and have some friends and relatives in the area,and they lived there for a time before returning to Scotland.
- sdn-ar-001nyhempP215.dialsprint.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:17:33 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Mary and John!
Just talking to my brother in Globe, Arizona, and he said there is a big fire burning about eight miles from there. But they had rain there today and it was expected to be extinguished soon, he said. Goodnight to all!

- mod14.new-philly.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:17:56 (GMT)
Ridy:
That's an interesting question, Doreen. We apparently have a lot of marriages of convenience in Canada, where people from overseas will go through a marriage with a Canadian citizen for the sole purpose of coming to Canada as immigrants. That would not cause anyone to lose their citizenship in Canada - but I don't know about American laws on that topic.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:20:10 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good night, Ed and Mary.
John - that's interesting.... my daughter is married to a chap from Scotland!

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:21:38 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Ridy,
I did get a change of e-mail address from Nettie and Rich last week. I haven't communicated with them in awhile, but intend to drop them a note in a week or so. They seem like such nice people,and have children in my area.

- sdn-ar-001nyhempP215.dialsprint.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:22:11 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Good night everyone. Ridy I will send the address as soon as I have it.
- spider-wo053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:23:26 (GMT)
Doreen:
My grandmothers parents were from Nesselthal, she always said she was born in Brooklyn & I have baptismal papers from Brooklyn. Now I found citizenship papers for her in my Aunts house.
- spider-tl064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:23:40 (GMT)
Ridy:
John - I was hoping they would come up for the Treffen, but Rich has a Navy reunion to go to, in Albany I think. Does Kathy live near you?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:24:00 (GMT)
Ridy:
Thank you, Mary, and Gute Nacht!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:24:44 (GMT)
Ridy:
Doreen - is it possible that when she was born, her parents were not yet US citizens, and citizenship wasn't automatic for anyone born over here in those days? I really don't know. . . . That would certainly be the case in Switzerland!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:26:26 (GMT)
Doreen:
thank you for your ideas
- spider-tl064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:27:12 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Doreen, I don't think you lose your citizenship when you marry someone from another country. Did your grandmother
return to Gottschee?
Ridy- Where is your son-in-law from in Scotland? My friend
is from Lesmahawgow which is about 20 minutes South of Glasgow.

- sdn-ar-001nyhempP215.dialsprint.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:28:07 (GMT)
Doreen:
Family says she was born here & did go for a visit as a child.
- spider-tl064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:29:43 (GMT)
Ridy:
John - how on earth did you ever remember how to spell the name of that place? My son-in-law is from Edinburgh - his family came to Toronto when he was about 3 yrs old
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:30:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
Doreen - just an off-the-wall question -- did your grandmother and great-grandmother possibly have the same first name? Might it be your great-grandmother's citizenship certificate?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:33:22 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Ridy- I spent a wonderful week in Lesmahagow about 18 years ago when my leased car broke down. It holds a special place for me, one that was filled with warm friendly fun loving people. My friends daughter was 8 or 9 when I was there and now she is 26. We vowed not to let another 18 years pass
before we meet again. Actually my wife said she would enjoy
going there. Now if I could get her to agree to a trip to
Austria someday!
Kathy lives in Wantagh which is about 5 minutes from where we use to live and about 10 to15 minutes from us now.

- sdn-ar-001nyhempP215.dialsprint.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:38:40 (GMT)
Ridy:
John - my son just spent a couple of days in Scotland but was disappointed that the weather wasn't warmer. . .Other than that, he liked it very much.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:41:30 (GMT)
Ridy:
Did you know Nettie and Rich when they lived in Hicksville?
We always got a big bang out of that name!

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:43:35 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Doreen,
My mother's Aunt said she was born here, yet my Grandmother who was a year younger said she was born in Ireland, and the family came together . You figure that one out! Most of the children claimed to be 4 to 6 years younger than they actually were also.

- sdn-ar-001nyhempP215.dialsprint.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:45:08 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gute Nacht
see you all next Sunday

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:47:25 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Ridy-
I met Nettie and Rich on the net. They were friends of my
fathers cousin Sophie Nadler Theisinger from Ort in MItterdorf Parish. They met Sophie in Florida where she and her husband had lived for years. They contacted me after she passed away when they found out that my grandmother was a Nadler from Mitterdorf area. We became friends on the web. We live in Hicksville now. I always got a kick out of the name too. I never thought I live here.

- sdn-ar-001nyhempP215.dialsprint.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:52:11 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Gute Nacht all!
- sdn-ar-001nyhempP215.dialsprint.net - Monday, August 07, 2000 at 02:53:56 (GMT)
Rich Sider:
Hi Ridy , Hi john. Have been reading your messages and enjoyed eavesdropping. Will send you a message john from my new ISP
- nas-233-251.orlando-t.navipath.net - Tuesday, August 08, 2000 at 02:53:43 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi,
Anyone around tonight. Hot and dry and burning up in Utah!

- proxy-333.public.rwc.webtv.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:00:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, John. Are you still here? If so, I will check back later or you can email me to tell me you are here.
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:23:08 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello anybody here?
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:23:09 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Jim, got your email and there was no attachment. that Michael Petsche in that Shelby county article is a relative of mine.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:24:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Were you aware of that article?
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:27:02 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Jim, Hi Mary, how are you all tonight. Long time no talk.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:27:14 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim, you had mentioned it before and I found it on the Shelby county page. I am pretty sure MIchael Petsche was a farmer most of his life in Iowa.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:28:02 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Franz Saw that you went to Hawaii instead of Coloraod!
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:28:38 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Mary, yes Hawaii it was and it was nice.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:30:22 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am sure. Alto a little warm there this time of the year.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:31:17 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Franz. How are you doing?

Mary, just sent the attachment. May take a minute or so to download. It is a JPEG picture of coral and fish from the Caymans. I assume Michael Petsche was related to Maria Petsche.

- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:31:34 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Michael and Maria were brother and sister.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:33:22 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Mary, not too bad. Not as hot as some days in the Midwest.Almost like Colorado when the nights cool off.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:33:31 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim the picture is beautiful.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:35:57 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hello Jim. Now that I am back and used to the daily grind, O.K. I guess.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:36:21 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Jim,
How's it going? How is your wife doing?

- proxy-1366.public.svc.webtv.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:36:34 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Franz, I can't handle the summers in the midwest either. I like Colorado cause it cools off at night. I lived in Hawaii for 10 months and hated the summer.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:37:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, work is heck but we don't get the vacations for free so we need to make the money.

John, Linda is doing fine. She went snorkeling in the Caymans without a problem.

Marilu, that small fifteen year old camera did well but I think its time is up unless I can find someone to get it airtight again.

- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:38:30 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Jim,
Have you been doing much on your Gottscheer stuff? I haven't done much. I've been busy doing some work on my French side of the famiy. I think I may have told you that earlier this year. Have had a lot of luck on my mother's side of the family and have been corresponding with 2 cousin's in France.

- proxy-1365.public.svc.webtv.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:39:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am not concentrating on my own family but extending my FTM file with additional information via the marriage files and family books as they become available. I try to get as much of Holly's online information in there as well. I still enjoy the occasional link between parishes.
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:42:10 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, did Maria and Michael come from the Ebental parish???
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:42:41 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am trying to get my Peschel book ready to print. That part is taking me way to long.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:43:29 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, how is the scuba and snorkeling in Hawaii? Is the current too rough?
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:43:43 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, there is a german saying, Arbeit macht das Leben suess, Faulheit staerkt die Glieder.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:44:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, another question--- have you ever seen Peschl or Peschel spelled Pezle. Holly has a name like that who married someone from Altlag.
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:44:59 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Jim,
Has it been hot in the east. We have had the second hottest July on record here. It may be the hottest August in history of Utah. We have had somewhere over 40+ days over 90 degrees. We have also had humid winds from the south, so it has been more humid than normal. Not anything like New Jersey, but hot to us.

- proxy-1363.public.svc.webtv.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:45:33 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Michael and Maria came from Bistriz #2 which is Tschernembl Parish.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:45:36 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, I am not into scuba but enjoy snorkeling. It was wunderful.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:46:02 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
No Jim, I have not seen it spelled that way. But sometimes, Petsche has a z in it, so I suppose Peschel could have also.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:46:50 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, the first part was easy but the second about idleness or laziness is difficult. Is it an idiomatic saying?
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:49:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
John, it has been unusually cool. My veggies are not liking it. Picked some tomatoes, and cukes along with basil. Should make a good salad.

Mary, any dates for Mary or Michael? Parents?

- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:50:42 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
I noticed that the next GHGA meeting is in Denver. I may try to go to it next year. Have you been to any of their meetings, Jim? They usually are very interesting.
- proxy-1363.public.svc.webtv.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:50:45 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim I will put that info into an email for you. I have all of the dates and names.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:53:15 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Sorry Jim, didn't mean to throw you a curve. It means, work sweetens life, however laziness strenghtens your bones.
- 1Cust22.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:53:17 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I was happy to see the next meeting is in Denver because I sure plan on being there.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:53:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Is it in Denver? I thought it was going to be in Hawley in June. Is it the same one? I was looking forward to Hawley. I have not been to one. I wanted to go to Toronto in the fall but probably won't. Labor Day is a weekend for cookouts and family get to gethers.
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:54:18 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
It would be great to meet you Mary. I know that the two that I have been to have been great fun. I did a work shop on Gottscheer extraction work and it was great fun and I learned lots.
- proxy-1362.public.svc.webtv.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:54:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, that was what it seemed to be but I thought that was being too complimentary for laziness.
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:55:19 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
They changed the meeting next year. It was supposed to be in Denver in 2002, and switched.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:56:25 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I am only 120 miles from Denver.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:56:43 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
They originally had it planned for Hawley, but for some reason changed it to Denver. It had something to do with their tour to Gottschee next year. I don't remember the exact reason, but it will be in Denver.
- proxy-1364.public.svc.webtv.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:56:55 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, thank you for the information. I did have some of your information but not much. My Tschernembl data is limited to those that married into other parishes.

- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:57:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Aw, shucks. That is disappointing. I missed the last one in Hawley because I thought it was too far away but later found out that it was really close (90 minutes by car into a nice area).
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:58:35 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good evening everybody! You've been chatting up a storm!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 01:59:52 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim I have all the marriage and birth records for tschernembl, but have only copied the ones for Bistriz for now.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 02:00:47 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Ridy!
- proxy-1361.public.svc.webtv.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 02:02:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Ridy. There is a dark force who doesn't want me to meet up with other Gottscheers. I wish the Toronto meeting was on a different weekend and now they change Hawley to Denver. Das ist schade.
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 02:03:25 (GMT)
Ridy:
Sehr schade. I hate to tell you this - but it's beginning to look as if I might not make it either! I haven't cancelled my reservation yet - but I may have to. Uninvited company!!!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 02:09:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am still recovering from the over twelve hour ordeal from vacation to home and will be signing off for now. Hope the week goes well.
- spider-to077.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 02:12:08 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gute Nacht, Jim!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 02:12:53 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
It is starting to storm here so I am shutting my computer off for now. See you next week.
- spider-mtc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 02:13:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good night, everybody!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 02:14:05 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Night everyone!
- proxy-1338.public.svc.webtv.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 02:15:32 (GMT)
Lynn :
Anyone still here?
- ilsmpn11.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 02:33:04 (GMT)
Lynn :
Sorry to miss everyone! I just returned home. Will try again and the best to you all.
- ilsmpn11.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 14, 2000 at 02:34:48 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Hello, All. Sorry that I missed last week. We were gone.Anything exciting happen? Any new relatives discovered? Eddie, are you logging on tonight?
- KSCYA010-0140.splitrock.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 00:22:08 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Margret, I am afraid soon we will run out of new relatives, I think we are all relatives anyway.
- 1Cust251.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:08:53 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Anyone out there................?
- 1Cust251.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:14:22 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello!
Hope you are all doing well. We weren't able to get on the Chat last week.

- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:23:36 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Everyone!
- proxy-1427.public.svc.webtv.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:28:35 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Ed and Mary, shocks you just missed my cocktail hour.Thank you for asking, I am doing well, how is everything with you? Have you been able to make contact with Walter Kraker in Germany?
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:29:09 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Franz: We sent a letter to Walter, but didn't receive an answer. Maybe we should call. Possibly he didn't receive our letter. It would be nice to contact him, since he is pretty closely related.
- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:32:08 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
ED and Mary, I had a hective summer. Things are starting to settle down. I will try to call Walter and see if he received your mail.
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:34:55 (GMT)
Ridy:
Guten Abend!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:36:25 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, buas isch mit Diar, Due bischt ju ze spuate. Hoscht Due geschluwn?
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:38:49 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Franz: Thanks for all the help you have given us. We have had a busy summer, too. Our youngest son was married July 22, and that kept us all busy for a while. Next month, we want to visit St. Joseph Church in Sharon, Pa., where we recently learned Ed's grandparents were married in 1902.
- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:39:19 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Ridy,
Sounds like you have had a mild summer! How's your family doing?

- proxy-1426.public.svc.webtv.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:41:07 (GMT)
Ridy:
Very funny, Franzl! No, I wasn't sleeping, just gettin' slow. Actually, we're freezing up here! Never made it out of the teens today. Send hot air, eh?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:41:49 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Hello People: I hope I am on time this week!
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:42:46 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ed and Mary, I always thougth summer is for relaxing, it shure doesn't seem that way.
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:42:47 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, hot air is on the way. FED EX.
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:43:47 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi John ~ we've certainly had (don't like that past tense!) a different kind of summer. Very wet, and hardly any days over 30°. Not all that humid either. Nice for me, but not the greatest summer for beach holidays.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:44:03 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
It is very hot where I am -- almost in the very middle of the U.S. -- had two 100 degree days last week! I love the cold weather. Where are you so I can come there?
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:45:02 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, how are you doing it ? Back in the teens again? WOW
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:45:12 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Lynn --
I'm on Toronto - north of the border! But we take American dollars here!

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:45:50 (GMT)
Ridy:
Actually, Franz, I'm heading for my next childhood. Celsius, dummkopf!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:46:47 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello Lynn, John and Ridy!
Brrrr! It sounds awfully cold up there Ridy. It was somewhat cool here in Ohio, but definitely warmer than Toronto.
Franz: We plan to take it easy the rest of the summer. How about you?

- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:47:38 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, what surprise, you managed to meet Celsius as well.
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:48:51 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz ~ next time you do a solo cocktail hour, invite me!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:49:48 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ed and Mary, an excellent idea. I will try to enjoy the rest of this summer as well.
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:52:02 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, what's your favored drink? No scotch please.
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:52:55 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Hi Ridy: You tried to connect me with some of the Kumps. Do you recall? I have been having such a nice time being in contact with Gottscheers since joining the GHGA.
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:53:27 (GMT)
Ridy:
What's wrong with scotch, Franz? My son-in-law is Scotch and he's terrific!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:54:18 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, it all depends.
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:55:10 (GMT)
Ridy:
Lynn ~ did you ever make contact? The cobwebs covering my brain are being swept aside -- they just had a baby girl - Nicole - and her father is doing OK. . ..
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:56:00 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello everyone
- spider-tf083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:56:37 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
You were going to put me in contact with Anita Kump, but asked me to wait a while.
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:56:59 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - you should read John Kenneth Galbraith's book "The Scotch" -- very funny...but then he comes from this part of the world.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:57:21 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Hello Mary -- have we ever met?
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:57:44 (GMT)
Ridy:
Lynn - thanks for the reminder - it had slipped my mind.
Could you send me your e-mail address again, please? Mine is ridy@home.com

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:58:27 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Mary!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:58:54 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Here is my email address Ridy: babogs@shawneelink.com
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 01:59:51 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
No Lynn I dont think I have ever seen you on before
- spider-tf083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:00:20 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, no I have not. I used to read a lot, however time, time, is in short supply.
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:00:43 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Franz: I have a FRANZ MAUSSER in my family background from Rotenstein #4, Altlag, Gottschee - any connection to you?
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:03:46 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
HI Mary, how are things in CO? I have seen an add in the Wallstreet , the Buckskin Joe village and the train at the Gorge is going to be auctioned off in September. Did you know?
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:04:47 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Franz Yes I did know. the owner is tired. As a matter of fact, we were there today. It usually shuts down for the winter shortly after Labor Day.
- spider-tf083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:06:44 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Lynn, I would not be surprised. Rotenstein. Altlag, Unterwarmberg, were all very close communities.
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:08:09 (GMT)
Ridy:
Mary ~ thanks for your help in getting me that address in Laibach. Much appreciated. One of these days I may yet be able to say that I do have a birth certificate.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:10:06 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Lynn:
Ed's grandfather and great-uncle, Johann and Joseph Kraker, were from Rotenstein #14. He also has Maussers in his background, but they were from Komutzen #9 _ just across the street from Franz Mausser's former home.

- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:11:01 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Lynn, could you give me some of your ancesters names?
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:11:05 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy you are very welcome. You have no idea how much others have helped me.
- spider-tf083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:11:33 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
My grandfather was FERDINAND THELLIAN born in Maschen #6, Tschermoschnitz, Gottschee (mother AGNES SAMIDE Obertappelwerch #5, Tschermoschnitz and father FRANZ THELLIAN Krapflern #3, Pollandl) and my grandmother was ROSALIA GOESTEL born Neufriesach #9, Nesselthal (mother MARIA STONITSCH born Taubenbrunn #5, Nessselthal and father PETER GOESTEL Preriegel #11, Unterdeutschau).
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:15:51 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
I have seven Johann Krakers in our family tree -- here is one address Oberwarmberg#8, Unterwarmberg, Gottschee
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:17:30 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Mary, are you going to be around the third week of Sept., I plan a week of R&R on the Eagle Peak Ranch. On the way there
- 1Cust172.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:17:50 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Franz Yes I will be here that week.
- spider-tf083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:18:39 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I look forward to meeting you.
- spider-tf083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:18:58 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gütei Nocht - it's been fun, and see you all next week, I hope!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:19:08 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Good night Ridy -- I look forward to your email!
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:20:14 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Good night Ridy
- spider-tf083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:20:54 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Lynn:
Ed's grandmother, Helena Kraker, married Johann Kraker. Her father was also Johann Kraker, and she had a brother named Johann Kraker. She also had a son, a grandson and a great-grandson, all named John (Johann) Krocker, formerly Kraker!

- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:22:55 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, Guetei Nocht, hoeffentlich schlufescht due gueat.
- 1Cust103.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:23:57 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
How interesting! I have so many Maria Kumps in my background, too, but it seems like every Gottscheer does. Are you related to any Krakers in Illinois (Will County)?
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:24:48 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Mary, sorry, suddenly I must have gotten bumped. What I wanted to say is, Imight want to pick up a bottle or two of Cal. wine.
- 1Cust103.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:26:05 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Lynn:
We don't know of any relatives in Illinois, but it's possible. Ed only learned of his Gottscheer heritage about three years ago, but we have learned a lot through the GHGA and others.

- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:27:12 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Franz, do you have a particular kind in mind. And I hope to get to visit for awhile also
- spider-tf083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:27:16 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Mary, I find most Cal Reds are pretty good.
- 1Cust103.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:31:27 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight to everyone! Have a good week!
- mod38.new-philly.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:31:51 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Lynn, Ilive in Illinois, in Lake County which is not far from Will County. Where in will Cpounty are the Krakers?
- 1Cust103.tnt1.chi2.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:33:28 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
I must go now, too. Before I do, Franz? Did any of my immediate family names and addresses ring a bell with you?
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:33:29 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Franz, well I have quite a few different labels so maybe we can find something you will like.
- spider-tf083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:33:48 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
Franz: The Krakers we are related to were Mary Kraker who married a Troje. Sophia is another name, but I think these people are all gone now. The Thellians in Will County now spell their names DALIAN...not too many GOESTELS but the modern ones spell it GESTEL, I think. There are a few KUMPS and some STONITSCHs doing very well. I know the Kumps but have not met these younger STonitschs -- do you know any of these people or families in Will Co?
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:37:38 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Lynn, I need to digest . I might have to call on my relatives in Austria.
- 1Cust42.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:38:52 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
OK Franz... That would be very nice. Here is my email address: babogs@shawneelink.com -- If you send me yours I can send you a more complete file of my direct family line and maybe something about your relations.
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:41:14 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Lynn, negative. I know very few with Gottscheer background.
- 1Cust42.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:41:45 (GMT)
Lynn Callaly:
I must go now, but it has been a pleasure chatting with you. Hope to see you here again.
- ilsmpn72.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:41:55 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
It's time to turn in. Have a good night and a pleasant week. See you next sunday.
- 1Cust42.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:44:17 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
good night everyone see you next week
- spider-tf083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 02:46:19 (GMT)
Christoph Josef Breser:
Hello, is everybody here born in Gottschee?
I am seventeen and I had a grandfather who was born in Gottschee. Does anybody know the name "JOSEF BRESER"???
If anybody can tell me some information pleas write to me:
christoph.breser@gmx.at
I would be happy, if someone can tell me about my grandfather. He was born in Altfriesach in 1900 and his father's name was Johann Breser.
Please write back. Thank you!!!
Yours Christoph Josef Breser

- L0889P29.dipool.highway.telekom.at - Monday, August 21, 2000 at 19:47:38 (GMT)
:
Just had a spaten bier at Gottscheer Halle in Ridgewood, NY. There's still alot of Gottscheer activites going on over there but they need more help from the American born generation to keep up the traditions not just chat on this site. All you Gottscheer get out there and support your heritage in person and teach the world the history of what happened to your parents and grandparents. If you don't start heading back to Gottscheer Hall and attending events and getting family and gottscheer friends involved it will all be forgotten and without a structured surrounding to be together to learn more and preserve this great heritage.
- du36199.mlf.ptd.net - Thursday, August 24, 2000 at 17:25:38 (GMT)
Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
I would like the person who wrote the last message regarding his visit to the Gottscheer Hall in Ridgewood to contact me. I can be reached at wyants@mlecmn. net. Thank You. Look forward to hearing from you.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Sunday, August 27, 2000 at 00:15:57 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Wake up, where is everyone?
- 1Cust126.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:19:13 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, ALL. Franz. special hello to you. Where is everyone? Hotter than blazes here in KC. 97 today. Hotter tomorrow. Global warming is real!
- A020-0863.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:25:26 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Christoph: Not everyone on the plauderzimmer was born in Gottschee. They have parents, grandparents, etc. who were born there. Keep logging on. You'll get lots of information and probably find some distant relatives!
- A020-0863.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:27:17 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good Evening, Margaret and Franz -
sorry I'm so late.
Franz - would you mind giving me your e-mail address, please. I have I message I want to forward to you.

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:27:56 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Guess it would help if I gave you mine -- it's
ridy@home.com

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:28:28 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Are you going to the treffen in Toronto?? Would someone give us chatters here a report, after they return. I'm so sorry I can't go. I went last year--first time. Had a BALL!
- A020-0863.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:30:46 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
97°F -- that's too hot for me, Margaret! We made it into the low 70s today, which is quite warm enough for me.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:32:09 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Margaret - I've had to cancel, much to my regret. But I'll try to get a report to you after next weekend.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:34:18 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Hi Margaret and Ridy,
It looks sort of slow tonight! I can't believe the Summer
is almost over.We've had quite a cool Summer on Long Island.

- dialup-209.246.68.87.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:35:59 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guess I will log off. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- A020-0863.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:38:22 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi John -
I guess unusual weather conditions are the rule everywhere this year.

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:39:28 (GMT)
Jim:
Hello everyone.
- spider-wn021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:41:16 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello to everyone!
Hope you had a good week. We've been busy with grandkids' activities. Currently, one grandson is the punter on the high school football team and two others run cross country. It's a lot of fun to watch them all.

- mod4.new-philly.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:41:45 (GMT)
Jim:
Hello, Ed & Mary. Don't know if anyone else is on tonight. How was your week? The summer is fading so fast and was exceptionally mild.
- spider-wn021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:43:06 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Don't have any grandkids to watch - yet - so I watch Tiger!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:43:40 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Ridy,
It's to bad that you'll miss the Treffen this year. Is Kitchener far from Toronto? I'd like to make one one of these years. My cousin went to Cleveland last.

- dialup-209.246.68.87.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:43:58 (GMT)
Jim:
I know Helmut tried to make some changes on the site in the past. I wonder if he could find a way to keep a list of those people who are active in the chat room.
- spider-wn021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:44:51 (GMT)
Jim:
Hello, Ridy and John
- spider-wn021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:45:18 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
John - Kitchener is just about 70 miles west of Toronto -- it's my Canadian hometown. In my driving days I could make it from our house to my parents' house in 1-1/4hrs.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:45:46 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz was on earlier, but he seems to have faded
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:46:40 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello Jim, Ridy and Franz,
Yes, the summer raced by again. We've also had cool weather with lots of moisture all summer. Last summer, by the end of June, the grass was completely brown. Ridy _ Tiger is giving all his fans a treat, isn't he? Franz _ Have you heard anything from Walter Kraker?

- mod4.new-philly.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:48:07 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Hi Jim,
Where are you from again? I believe it's somewhere on the East Coast,but I've forgotten.

- dialup-209.246.68.87.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:49:21 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
John, I live in Roseland, a small town in northeast New Jersey. Originally from Bushwick, Brooklyn.
- spider-wn021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:50:44 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Jim - I haven't heard from Franz. Would you mind sending him that e-mail, please?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:51:32 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Jim, My brother-in-law lives in Wanaque which is near Wayne? is that anywhere near you?
- dialup-209.246.68.87.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:53:24 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi John,
There will be a Treffen coming up in Ridgewood, N.Y., so maybe you can attend. We have relatives, Adolph and Marie Mausser, who are active in the Gottscheer Club there and we have a tape of the last one held there.

- mod4.new-philly.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:56:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, I sent the email on. I think I had the right address. John, Wayne is probably ten miles or less away as the crow flies. Longer by car. Have to catch a crow; it seems quicker.
- spider-wn021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:59:01 (GMT)
Ridy:
E & M - You live in Ohio, right?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:59:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I would like to catch the Treffen in Ridgewood. I can do that one very easily. Do you have any more information?
- spider-wn021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 01:59:54 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Hi Ed and Mary,
Thanks for the info. Is that next year? I believe my cousin's husband Karl Matzelle is active in the Gottscheer
Club.

- dialup-209.246.68.87.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 02:00:30 (GMT)
Ridy:
Kitchener will be next year for the Treffen, followed by Ridgewood.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 02:00:35 (GMT)
Ridy:
They should really mix that up - have one in Canada, followed by one in the States - that would make more sense, wouldn't it?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 02:02:10 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy _ Yes we live near New Philadelphia, about 100 miles south of Cleveland. Jim _ We don't have anymore info about Treffen at Ridgewood, but Ed talked to Maria last week and she is already talking about it. We want to go if we can arrange it. The first time we met the Maussers was at the Treffen in Cleveland last year. Adolph sings in the Gottscheer Chorus there.
- mod4.new-philly.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 02:04:26 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello everyone.
- spider-th051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 02:06:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Mary. Have you ever come across a LeAnn Hugeback in your online excursions?
- spider-wn021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 02:09:27 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Thanks Ridy. They really should mix it up. I'd love to get up to the one in Kitchener. It's my wife that needs convincing. Ihave one cousin in Montreal that I haven't seen in years,and we've been saying we might get up there
one Summer ,but it hasn't happened. I have another cousin
in Regina ,Saskatchewan that I visited about 13 or 14 years ago. Perhaps when our kids get a little bigger. MY wife has gotten enthused about a trip to Scotland down the road,after meeting my Scottish friends.

- dialup-209.246.68.87.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 02:09:58 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hi Jim Leann Hugeback is a distant relative of mine in the Petsche family. I still need to send you that info about the Peschels also.
- spider-th051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 02:10:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I thought there might be a connection. She put extensive Petsche information in a file that I ran across on Rootsweb.com. Figured it might be of help to you.
- spider-wn021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 02:15:52 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Actually her cousin and mine Pat Sullivan gave me all that information about a year ago when I started this search. He was the one who put me on the right track for the Peschels, and my great great grandmother was a Petsche.
- spider-th051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 02:17:53 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight everyone!
Want to catch the rest of the Indians game. For those of you who will be attending the Treffen, have a great time! Since Ed only learned of his Gottscheer roots in 1996, attending last year's Treffen was a wonderful experience. We met close relatives we never knew existed and made many friends.

- mod4.new-philly.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 02:17:56 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Just keeping an eye out. Glad you had the information. Going to sign off for now. Take care.



- spider-wn021.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 02:21:20 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
thanks for thinking of me Jim. Good night.
- spider-th051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 02:22:03 (GMT)
John Sorli:
Goodnight all,
Ive got to go do review some geneaogy on my Mother-in-law's family that I've been working on. She has a 2nd cousin who came to this country as a child who's going back to the area the family was from. I've done a lot of work on this
family,and just got a new film in that should allow me to bring it up to the present. He speaks German and is going to try to contact some of her family if I can get him the info in time.

- dialup-209.246.68.87.NewYork2.Level3.net - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 02:24:38 (GMT)
Herb Mausser:
Hello everyone! Don't have much of a chance to get in the Plauderzimmer (my only e-mail connection is at work), but I wanted to comment on the upcoming Treffens. I believe Milwaukee is still in the lineup. The past order was Milwaukee, Toronto, Kitchener, New York, and Cleveland, but the decision was made last year to separate the two Canadian Treffens (as several of you suggested), so Toronto was pushed ahead of Milwaukee. Anyway, as things stand now, the New York Treffen will be in 2003. I enjoy reading the Plauderzimmer log every Monday, and someday hope to get on-line at home so I can join you all real-time!
- 141.110.195.37 - Monday, August 28, 2000 at 14:59:33 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Just wanted to wish everyone a happy Labor Day. It was been very humid in Northern Ohio but at least it didn't rain on anyone's picnic. Take care and drive safely.
- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 00:58:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Just saying hello on this sticky Labor Day weekend.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:12:55 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello everyone
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:16:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Mary.

- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:17:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I don't think everyone is too many tonight. How has your Labor Day weekend been.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:17:37 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
It has been a very pleasant day in Canon City
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:17:56 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hopefully you will send some of that our way.


- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:18:32 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
We have spent the weedend working around the house, and it is nice once in awhile to have a quiet weekend with no company.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:18:52 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
We had our big cookout today. Several people are going on vacation or back home tomorrow so we opted for Sunday. It will give us a day to get rid of the calories before work on Tuesday.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:19:47 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Guten Abend,Everyone!
We've finally come out of our hot and humid weather and have had some nice cooling rain yesterday and today. I can breathe again!

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:19:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I agree about things getting too hectic at times. A day to "chill" is good now and then.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:20:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Guten Abend, Ridy. How is your home vacation? Is Labor Day a Canadian holiday as well?
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:21:49 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello all and happy holiday. I'm late. Not much doing on line tonight. Hope next week we will get a review of the treffen in Toronto. Would have loved to be there. Printed out a copy of last week's chat and mailed to Marie Wolf. She asked about Franz Mausser--Mausser was her maiden name. No information that I could give her. Anybody help me? Thanks. Marie's not too well now. She has cancer. Her brother Frank Mausser still lives in Queens. ANyone know him?
- A010-1004.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:21:54 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I'm having two weeks to chill and don't seem to have got the hang of it yet.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:21:55 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
It's Labour Day weekend up here too. Haven't heard anything about the Treffen taking place at the other end of the City - no doubt everyone is still there, enjoying it.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:23:29 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Give it time. One or two more days and you will be as cool as an eskimo in December during a snowstorm. Mint juleps under the magnolia tree while working on your writing. I can send you a nice Bermuda Rum Swizzle recipe if you don't like the other drink.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:23:35 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Two of my kids and their families live here in town, so we do not have much quite time.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:23:37 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ridy, I cannot believe you did not go to the Treffen!
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:24:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, can you give me any dates for Maria Mausser Wolf or her brother? A parish? I could then do a quick check.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:24:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, could not bear to go there without us in attendance. However, it would have been good to have our own personal reporter of the events.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:26:28 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Mint juleps and Bermuda Rum Swizzle -- hmmm, have you changed profession, Jim?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:26:34 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim. Very kind of you, but I'm not sure. Will talk to Marie next week. Hope you log on next Sunday. Should know that info, but don't, Thanks.
- A010-1004.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:27:22 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Mary - there is a reason that I didn't go -- I'm a toothless lion right now. It's better not to be seen - just heard!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:28:01 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Don't know anything about the juleps but the swizzle is a dandy. Rum, OJ, Pineapple juice, lemon juice, ginger ale, falernum, grenadine, and bitters.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:28:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, do you have my email address. You can send the information to me at DocH301454@aol.com .
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:29:24 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Please! I'm an old lady! I'll take my Bristol Milk on the rocks, please! (Cream, if you don't have milk)
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:29:51 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim. Got it. Thanks so much. Need to check with Marie. Really appreciate your offer.
- A010-1004.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:30:48 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there everyone,
I have just been linking two living relatives to each other.
What great fun that is!

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:31:06 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Holly! How wonderful to have you back on!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:31:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, a Gottscheer genealogy or history question. From your conversations with others, where did most of the Gottscheers go after World War II? I know a lot came to the USA but what about Canada, Germany, Austria. Did more go to those countries or was the USA the place most emigrated to?
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:32:34 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
O.k.
where is the beer drinkers?
someone gave us some empty Grotsch Lager bottles with swingtop lids. wonderful design on the bottles.

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:32:46 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Will log off now. Aug Wiedersehen Bleib gesund.
- A010-1004.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:32:51 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hallo, and guten abend, Holly.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:33:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I like a beer every now and then but usually not a whole bottle. The cold taste is good but then fades after a few sips. Some of the microbreweries are good.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:34:17 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly was that the right spelling on the beer
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:34:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, where were the linked cousins from? Different parts of the country? Did they know each other?
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:35:12 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I don't know the answer to your question, Jim, but judging by the Gottscheers I know, most of them went to the USA and Canada. Only one of my father's sisters stayed in Germany, but she lived there during the war. One of mother's brothers stayed in Germany for a few years, but then they too came to Canada. If I had to take a guess, I'd say that most came over here.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:35:31 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Or was it Grolish
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:35:34 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi all,
Mary it was Grolsch, sorry.

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:35:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It may be Groelsch with an umlaut. They do have nice bottles.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:35:59 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Ok yes those are nice bottles.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:37:04 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
was in Cleveland area today and saw those rain clouds headed your way. They never made it East.

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:37:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, follow up question ------ how many stayed in Gottschee and did some areas have more people staying than others? When the Germans made the decision to move the population, was there any choice? I get the impression that either people had little choice or the deal sounded too good to be true (and it turned out that it wasn't true).
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:39:03 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Luckily no thunderstorms, though. It brought to mind "it droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven upon the place beneath" --
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:39:20 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Guten Abend Alle.
- 1Cust98.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:42:15 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
from what Aurelia tells. either you left or you were burned out when the opposition came.

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:42:21 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
People were given a choice - to go or to stay - but not very many dared to stay. However, most of them did not realize that they were only going a short distance away - most of them thought they were going to Germany. It was known as going "Heim ins Reich", which was pure propaganda. But that's what propaganda is all about - making people believe the unbelievable.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:43:06 (GMT)
Martha Hutter:
Hi, all of you! I'm just browsing and happen to stumble upon your chatroom. This is great -- I'm a Gottscheer in New York. I know Ridy, she wrote me a letter some time ago, Hi Ridy! I don't know anyone else in this group.
- 1Cust112.tnt20.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:43:36 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Grüß Dich, Franz!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:43:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Martha. I am also from New York. Grew up in Bushwick just south of the Gottscheer stronghold of Ridgewood/Glendale. Currently live in NJ.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:45:17 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Martha,
Nice to have you join us.

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:45:23 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Welcome, Martha!
Martha has written about Gottschee and has published a paper recently about the first Gottscheers in America. You don't mind me saying that, do you Martha? Maybe it'll help speed up your translation so that we can all enjoy it!

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:45:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Franz. Wie gehts?
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:45:52 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy and Jim, thank you for your work regarding Adalbert Kraker, I mailed him a short Message. No reply as of tonight.
- 1Cust98.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:46:26 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
hi there Franz,
You must have heard us talking Beer.

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:46:57 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Martha, where was that published? I find it fascinating how the "pipeline" to the US started with a trickle and then many more following. New York, Iowa, Cleveland, and places all over the continent. San Francisco, Pittsburgh. I don't think many went to the southern part of the country or I haven't come across that many as of yet.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:48:01 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Hello Martha I am also interested in the whys and hows of Gottscheers coming to the USA
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:48:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Martha, where was that published? I find it fascinating how the "pipeline" to the US started with a trickle and then many more following. New York, Iowa, Cleveland, and places all over the continent. San Francisco, Pittsburgh. I don't think many went to the southern part of the country or I haven't come across that many as of yet.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:48:17 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Don't forget Iowa. There are many Gottscheers there also
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:48:41 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Holly, as a matter of fact, I heard the beer going down.
- 1Cust98.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:48:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Oops, my computer hiccuped. I thought I was out of the chat room.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:49:13 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Martha - something just popped into my head -- didn't you also do a drawing of our little Kirchlein in Kukendorf? My father had a new roof put on it before we left, and had it freshly painted. I still remember all the pictures and a couple of statues standing in my grandparents' house while the work was being done!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:49:46 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Sorry Holly I prefer wine. lol
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:49:52 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, are you shure it wasn't the beer?
- 1Cust98.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:50:14 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Martha,
Do you have any info re: the Gottscheers to Surgar Creek, Iowa, near Charlotte, Iowa? I have someone trying to make a connection to Gottschee from there and I have not been able to help, as yet.

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:50:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, I got Iowa in there. I keep running into Iowan Gottscheers all the time. Shelby County, Westphalia, Dubuque. Farms, dry good peddlers, railroad employees.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:50:48 (GMT)
Martha Hutter:
Jim, the paper Ridy is refering to -- "Die ersten Amerika-Gottscheer" was published last year in Graz, Austria. As she told you, I'm working on the English version. Jim, there are many in Florida; we'll get to hear of them yet.
- 1Cust112.tnt20.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:51:12 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
And farmers.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:51:28 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
My Underberg ancestors lived at Sugar Creek
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:52:16 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly that person has talked to me also.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:53:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Florida, hmmm. A new one. I know Eduard Stalzer lived there as well as other members of his family but I was under the impression that it was a secondary move after initially living elsewhere for a good period of time.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:53:14 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, I actually got a scanner and with my son's help I am trying to foreward the long ago promised photo of Komutzen. I am supposed to ask you if you have Adobe software.
- 1Cust98.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:53:38 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Mary, have you tried Bandiera, a California White Zinfindel?
It is my new favorite.

sorry I have to leave now but my husband and his buddy need my computer for their car stuff. Take care, I will check back later for our chats.

- ashdial-20.suite224.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:53:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, and Mary --- can you give me the name to check on? Maybe I have something in my file. One never knows.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:54:23 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Franz other programs can open those pictures even if you scan it with adobe
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:54:39 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Holly that is a wine I have not heard of yet.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:55:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, I have Adobe software and can open up most any picture format. I think Jpeg is a frequent file type to store and send.

Good night, Holly. Nice to have you back on the board.

- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:55:50 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim I would have to go back thru my email, all I remember is I think it was a Stalzer in Sugar Creek
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:56:33 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Mary, thank you. As you can tell I am still a beginner.
- 1Cust98.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:56:50 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
And somewhere along the way someone from that family married into my Underberg family. this is a very small world
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:57:36 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Martha ~ I know you told me when you came to the USA, but I've forgotten. When did you come over? I came in 1948.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:57:56 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Martha, I look forward to the translation. I asked Ridy earlier about two things. Perhaps you can tell me what you think ---- did most of the emigration come to America and how much went to Austria and Germany. Also, how many actually stayed in Gottschee? There was a little article in the Gottscheer Tree about a woman who was part Gottscheer.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:58:07 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes Jpeg is one of the easiest formats for pictures.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:58:15 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Mary - do you mean their surname is Underberg?
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:58:55 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Yes, my maiden name is Underberg.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:59:21 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Mary, from your work, was there a particular parish or two from which people emigrated to Iowa or was it a mix of all of them?
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:59:32 (GMT)
Martha Hutter:
Sugar Creek? Iowa? This is too fast for me. I'd have to go and check this out. Yes, Ridy, the Kirchlein of Kukendorf; I had a hard time finding a photo of that church. There are very, very few out there.
- 1Cust112.tnt20.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 01:59:43 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, my computer does not drink beer. I like a little of this and that. Enjoy wine and interesting beers. Can't do scotch. Much too strong. A feisty mixed drink is okay and a spicy bloody mary can get the taste buds going.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:01:46 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
The first ones in Iowa were probably Westphalia, Shelby County and some around Guttenburg Iowa. Don't know the name of the parish at Guttenburg.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:01:55 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
sorry jim read that the wrong way, most of the ones I know where from Bistriz or close to there
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:02:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Martha, Mary knows more about this than I but there were Gottscheers in Iowa as early as 1870 (if not earlier). Some were brought out there by the Chicago, Rock Island, and Pacific Railroad. Others came there to farm.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:03:21 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I think the first ones were in Iowa as early as 1852
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:03:45 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Martha - I have the book "Die Gottscheer Kitchen einst und heute" which was published in 1993 by Gojko Zupan, Mitja Ferenc and France M. Dolinar. But I also had photos I took when I was back in Gottschee for a very brief visit in 1963. The church was still standing then. It isn't anymore of course.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:03:46 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
A Mike Petsche from Bistriz #2 was one of the first
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:04:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
My "shirt tail" cousins were from Unterwarmberg and Pollandl. They came later in the early 1900's.

- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:04:44 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, your favorites are very close to mine. I hope soon I will be able to check on Mary's winecellar.
- 1Cust98.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:04:55 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
a couple of his relatives were here earlier in Chicago
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:05:01 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Just had a good laugh rereading my message "the Gottscheer Kitchen, indeed! that should be "Kirchen", of course.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:05:32 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I hope so to Franz!
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:05:38 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim Bistriz was from Tschernembl parish.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:06:47 (GMT)
Martha Hutter:
Jim, Ridy was right on target with her answer. Numbers? 11,600 were resettled in 1941. Someone who is still in Kocevje (very reliable source) has suggested that about 600 stayed in Gottschee, 400 of whom have disappeared later on.
- 1Cust112.tnt20.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:06:55 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
1852. Wow. How the heck did they make it from middle Europe to middle USA. Boggles the mind. Was that Michael Petsche 9 20 1842 married to Appel?
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:07:10 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim yes that is the one. He was my great great Uncle
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:07:41 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, it looks like Kitchens over Kirchen. No wonder you have all those dinner guests.
- 1Cust98.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:08:09 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Jim I wished I knew the answer to that one
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:08:48 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
No guests right now, Franz. Just the cat and me. Maybe the Bianco is stronger than the sherry!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:09:14 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
No make that my great great great uncle. lolol
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:09:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
600 hundred years and only 200 remained after the war. What a shame. Politics and war.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:09:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I could understand the 1870's because of the railroad advertising and inducing people to come over but 1850 is before the great German emigration of the 1860's.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:11:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I got that information on Michael Petsche from LeAnn's posting. Reached that through Rootsweb.com.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:12:01 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
My great grand father came in 1852 and I suppose it was because Mike Petsche was already here.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:12:40 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, one of my mothers cousin was married to a slovanien. She stayed behind. Later on my mother and her made contact, she told my mother life wasn't pleasant.
- 1Cust98.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:12:45 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
sorry he came`in 1882
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:12:58 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
And no one in my family knows anything about the trip over here or why and how they came
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:13:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It would be interesting to hear more about the Gottscheers who stayed behind. I would guess those who stayed and lived had to have relatives who were Slovenian. Otherwise, the German Gottscheers were probably not welcome.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:14:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
According to LeAnne, Michael drifted over in the 1870's. Probably joined the Petsches that came over in the early 1870s as a result of the railroad.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:16:23 (GMT)
Martha Hutter:
1852, WOW. I have not been able to trace ANY Gottscheer coming to the US earlier than 1860. I am VERY interested in this. Mary, can you tell me more -- who? when? where? But perhaps it is too late tonight. I'm happy to have found your chatroom. I shall certainly be around in the future.
- 1Cust112.tnt20.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:16:26 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
OHOH sorry just rechecked Mike came here in 1866
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:18:32 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
But he already had uncles here in Chicago
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:19:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Martha, do you know how many of the 11000 went to Germany or Austria? Any way to find out? Has anyone tried to speak with the Gottscheers that stayed behind? I apologize for all the questions but I know you have done a lot of work in this area.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:19:42 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Martha, good night and nice meeting you.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:20:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Time to go. Franz, Ridy, Mary, and everyone else --- good night and have a great Labor Day.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:21:42 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Martha - you'll find Mary and Jim and Holly are a treasure trove of information on Gottscheers and the best part is that they share all the information they unearth with everyone. Mary in Jim only found out about their Gottscheer connections in the very recent past, and Holly is married to a chap whose mother is from Gottschee.
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:21:50 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good Night Jim, enjoy the rest of the holyday weekend.Good Night All, Guetei Nocht Ridy.
- 1Cust98.tnt81.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:23:18 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Thanks Ridy but I think I know very little. Now Holly and Jim know a lot!!!! But I love digging!!!! See you all next week.
- spider-tn043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:23:29 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Gute Nacht, Brüderlein und Schwesterlein ~ enjoy the rest of your weekend. See you next Sunday!
- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:23:38 (GMT)
Martha Hutter:
Jim, Petschauer (who wrote the Jahrhundertbuch) estimated about 60% of the 11,000 -- all became refugees at the end of war -- went to North America. I think this is a low estimate. I believe more came over here.
- 1Cust112.tnt20.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 02:24:18 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Labor Day ~
Just had confirmation that the next Treffen will in in
New York next Labor Day weekend (2001) and the Treffen in
2002 will be in Kitchener.
The Treffen in Toronto, this past weekend, was apparently a huge success.

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Monday, September 04, 2000 at 19:25:42 (GMT)
Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Thanks Ridy for informing us as to the Treffen 2001. Would be great to see you in 2002. That is the same year as the GHGA is sponsoring the third trip to the Gottschee region of Slovenia. Departure June 12 and return June 26, 2002. Have a great week.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Tuesday, September 05, 2000 at 00:33:35 (GMT)
Dan Meditz:
Just wonderin' if anyone here know's of the Hotel Meditz in Reig?
- d212-25.hcvlny.optonline.net - Tuesday, September 05, 2000 at 00:57:44 (GMT)
Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Dan Meditz. I would appreciate you e-mailing me at:wyants@mlecmn.net. Look forward to hearing from you.
Warmest regards,
Sophia Stalzer-Wyant
born near Tschermoschnitz, Gottschee

- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Sunday, September 10, 2000 at 22:13:52 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there. where is everyone tonight? It is raining here in Northern Ohio.
- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:06:04 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there. where is everyone tonight? It is raining here in Northern Ohio.
- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:07:55 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hi everyone!
- dialup-209.245.107.67.Manchester1.Level3.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:08:19 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there eduard,
Seems to only be us tonight. How are you.?

- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:11:27 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
I am fine. The weather is great up here in New England. We have been cool all summer while everyone is baking. How is everything with you?
- dialup-209.245.107.67.Manchester1.Level3.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:13:03 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
My mother recently sent me a the Gottschee Video. I really enjoyed it.
- dialup-209.245.107.67.Manchester1.Level3.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:14:19 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello All. Eddie, glad you are cool. KCMO is roasting. The lawn looks like toast. No significant rain for more than a month. Hope Nancy and Krista are well.
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:14:42 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
No, we never did get any real hot hot days. Usually Aug is very hot but not this year. The golf course next to us is complaining because they lost alot of money with the terrible summer we had. Feels like fall.
- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:15:00 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
They are both great. Krista is back in school and loving it.
- dialup-209.245.107.67.Manchester1.Level3.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:15:22 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
I enjoyed the cool weather, however my vegetables did not.
- dialup-209.245.107.67.Manchester1.Level3.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:16:20 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Eduard,
Was that the Gottschee 1945 video? It was wonderful

- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:16:22 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Is there anyone on who went to the treffen?? Want some information on the food, the music, the fun. Marie Wolf want me know all about the treffen, too. Thanks
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:16:28 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Yes Margie. If you watch again look for the grave stone with Schauer on it. That lady was my father's grandmother.
- dialup-209.245.107.67.Manchester1.Level3.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:18:13 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Really messed up my last message. Marie Wolf would like to know all about the treffen, also. Marie has had chemo and is now doing radiation. I like to print out all the messages on the plauderzimmer and send them to her.
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:18:44 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Which cemetary was that?Nesselthal?
- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:19:26 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
I am not sure but you can see it near the beginning of the video. They have a good shot of it. When I saw the video for the first time at my parents home in Florida my Father pointed it out to me.
- dialup-209.245.107.67.Manchester1.Level3.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:20:58 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Margie: how is everyone else doing in KCMO
- dialup-209.245.107.67.Manchester1.Level3.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:23:24 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I will have to watch it again. and look for your relative. I just loved looking at their tools. and the clothes
- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:23:38 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hello Goetscheabare, how are we all tonight?
- 1Cust184.tnt1.libertyville.il.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:24:27 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Franz,
Talking weather, how's it?

- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:25:24 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie: We're all fine, just HOT! Our grand daughter, Katie, started college this year. Boy, am I getting old! Her brother is a junior in high school. Seems like yesterday we were changing their diapers.
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:25:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, everyone. Cloudy day but not too bad. Summers gone and only a few more tomatoes left to harvest.
- spider-wn031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:26:29 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz Glad you came on. Marie (Mausser) Wolf wants to know if you might be a relative of hers. There were 5 sisters and 1 brother in the family. Sorry I don't know the village they came from. Meant to ask you this sooner.
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:26:53 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Holly, the past week hot and very humid. Not at all like in Gottschee where there is always a fresh breeze of mountain air.
- 1Cust184.tnt1.libertyville.il.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:27:29 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Hello Jim!
- dialup-209.245.107.67.Manchester1.Level3.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:27:35 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Jim,

- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:28:04 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Anyone: What does Goetscheabare mean? Countrymen? Lansman?
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:28:21 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Ed. I would guess your growing season is usually shorter than in NJ and ours was none too good.
- spider-wn031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:28:47 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi, Jim. Did you go to the treffen?
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:29:34 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi to everyone on the Chat tonight. It poured here in Ohio today and cut short our community picnic. But, everything seemed brighter when our Cleveland Browns won!

- mod8.new-philly.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:29:57 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
I had none. Tomatoes did nothing, the blueberries were smaller than peas, strawberries were a waste of water, should I go on?
- dialup-209.245.107.67.Manchester1.Level3.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:30:27 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
ok eveyone,
this is laughable because I was a very poor history student, but I would like to know what war was Austria fighting in 1840.

- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:31:02 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
But the grass did grow just as fast as usual.
- dialup-209.245.107.67.Manchester1.Level3.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:31:38 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi Ed & Mary
Hey Cleveland!

- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:32:19 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Margaret there were just too many Maussers in the Gottscheer land to keep track of. They must have been some Casanovas. I knew some Wolf's back in Austria, there are Wolfs in Milwaukee. I don't recall Wolf's from Komutzen. I think Jim would know more about it if he is on tonight.
- 1Cust184.tnt1.libertyville.il.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:33:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I didn't go to the treffen. Had twenty people over on Labor Day. It is hard to go away on that weekend. It is getting to be a very family oriented time with get to gethers and barbecues. Difficult to leave and go to a meeting. I wonder if they have ever thought of changing the time for the Treffen.
- spider-wn031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:33:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz and Margaret, I might be able to help but I would need some more names and dates.
- spider-wn031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:34:22 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I agree with Jim. I wish it wasn't on a holiday. does anyone know why they did that? and when they started it?
- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:35:03 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Holly: Hope someone answers your question about war in 1840. I'm curious, too. Thanks
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:37:38 (GMT)
Eduard Stalzer:
Well, its time to go. Hopefully I can do this again next week. Everyone take and have a great week.
- dialup-209.245.107.67.Manchester1.Level3.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:37:42 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Margaret, Goettscheabare meens beeing from Gottschee, Gottscheer.
- 1Cust184.tnt1.libertyville.il.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:38:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ed, have a good week.
- spider-wn031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:38:08 (GMT)
Martha Hutter:
Hi everyone!
- 1Cust76.tnt40.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:38:28 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
How about this question. Working on the death records I found a man who died in Unter Oesterrich? where would that be?Lower Austria?
- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:39:32 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Am still hoping for news of the treffen. Didn't anybody go? Wanted to tell Marie Wolf about it.
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:39:43 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Martha!
- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:39:54 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Take care eduard!
- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:40:23 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Someone, possibly Ridy, put a message on earlier this week that she had heard the Treffen was very successful. Another message noted next year's Treffen will be in Ridgewood.
To Franz: We drove to Sharon, Pa., last week to visit St. Joseph Church where Ed's grandparents were married in 1902. We also visited the cemetery to see if there had been many Gottscheer families in the area. We found only a few Gottscheer family names, but one stone was for a Frank Mausser.

- mod8.new-philly.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:40:26 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Martha: Glad you came on. Did you go to the treffen?
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:40:44 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Holly, it should be Niederoesterreich which is a province or state of Austria.
- 1Cust184.tnt1.libertyville.il.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:41:07 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ed & Mary,
That is interesting. Why did they get married in Sharon. Did he work there?

- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:42:14 (GMT)
Martha Hutter:
Margaret, no. But I was in Cleveland last year. Is your Marie Wolf the sister of Frank Mausser of Ridgewood?
- 1Cust76.tnt40.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:42:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening, Martha.

Holly, do you know if the Altenmark marriage files from the GHGA were complete. They seem to only go up to the 1820's but the microfilm records lists marriage later on.

- spider-wn031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:42:43 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Thanks Franz,
I could have mistaken the entry. some of it is so hard to read

- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:43:23 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ed and Mary, my paternal Grandfather must be burried somewhere in Pa., his name was Anton Mausser.
- 1Cust184.tnt1.libertyville.il.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:43:30 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Martha: Yes. Marie Wolf is Frank Mausser's older sister. Glad I found someone who knows the Maussers. Frank does live in Ridgewood. Thanks
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:45:10 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
no I wasn't aware of the marriage records, but that is a real disappointment.

- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:45:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, do you have either Marie or Frank's birthdate/ house number?
- spider-wn031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:45:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am still going through Altenmark but only putting in those that match up. Since the marriages are early, no parents are listed.
- spider-wn031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:46:55 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Very sorry. I don't even know the town. I keep meaning to ask Marie, but I forget. Sorry. Maybe I'll have the information next Sunday.
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:47:15 (GMT)
Martha Hutter:
Margaret, I might have met her. Frank m. met his relatives in Cleveland, a group of mostly young people, and one elderly, whomI believe he said was his sister. He briefly introduced me to them with"this is a very nice lady." (Just so you all know.)
- 1Cust76.tnt40.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:48:13 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Martha Hutter. Do you remember us from the Cleveland Treffen? We enjoyed meeting you.
Holly: No one in the family knew where the grandparents were married until we noticed a photography studio on their wedding photo brought to a family reunion. After a few calls to Sharon, we got the information. No one knew they had ever lived there, but St. Joseph was a German-speaking parish.

- mod8.new-philly.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:48:44 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Martha, do you have contact with Gottscheers in Ridgewood?
- 1Cust184.tnt1.libertyville.il.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:49:18 (GMT)
Martha Hutter:
Ed and Mary, yes I remember you! How have you been?
- 1Cust76.tnt40.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:50:05 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Martha: Frank was talking about his sister, Marie, who is truly a nice lady. Those 5 "young people" with Marie were me, my sister, and 3 cousins--all Jonkes before marriage. Also, had a 3rd cousin, Pete Jonke, from Florida there. Quite a family gathering. I'm so pleased you remembered us.
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:50:22 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ed & Mary,
How interesting and exciting to find your family in such an out of the way place.

- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:51:24 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Martha: Forgot. Our aunt by marriage, Leni (Helen) Jonke from Mahopac, NY. was also in Cleveland. She is also a nice lady.
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:51:52 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, went through the Franz Maussers in my file that might fit with the age group. The best fit would be Komutzen#18 with Franz born July 6 1936 and Maria born March 22 1925. May be able to help out more later on.
- spider-wn031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:52:45 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Martha: Also present at the treffen were Marie's daughter, son, and a couple of nephews and their wives. We're all cousins, or near cousins.
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:53:29 (GMT)
Martha Hutter:
Franz, I am busy in the Gottscheer Relief Association, and I am very happy you all liked the video. I live in Middle Village, a stone's throw from Ridgewood. Many Landsleute here.
- 1Cust76.tnt40.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:53:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Oops, that was Komutzen#14. See if that fits with the information from Marie. If it does, I can send you what I have.
- spider-wn031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:54:09 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Frank Mausser is 87 or 88. Marie is 89, I think. Do you have birth records that go far back?
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:54:33 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Margaret: Sorry we didn't get to meet you in Cleveland, also. We have Mausser relatives in Ridgewood, too. They are Adolph and Marie Mausser and we met them for the first time in Cleveland.
Martha: We are doing fine and hope you are the same.

- mod8.new-philly.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:54:36 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Margaret,
very funny! If Jim doesn't, I do!

- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:55:17 (GMT)
Martha Hutter:
Margaret, I could have sworn Frank meant ME when he spoke of "a very nice lady". But he may have meant you or his sister. So disappointed.
- 1Cust76.tnt40.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:56:27 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Well, getting late. Work to do. Will log off. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund. Great chatting tonight.
- A010-1253.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:57:10 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
good night Margaret,
I also need to get some work done, so I will say good-night

- 246-158.suite224.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:58:42 (GMT)
Martha Hutter:
Good Night Margaret, and all of you.
- 1Cust76.tnt40.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:59:14 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Martha, do you or did you know a Franz and Maria Mausser, they have a son Frank. He is my fathers brother and I lost contact. I used to write and call them. My aunt Maria ,"Mitze" passed on and my uncle went downhill. I can't get any response from my cousin and don't know if my uncle is still around. Our Gottscheer housename was Kischnasch. My aunts maiden name was Mickolitsch, she was from Grasen.
- 1Cust184.tnt1.libertyville.il.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 01:59:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, checked the resettlement records and found Maria and Franz. They were Maussers from Schalkendorf. Probably #17. Not in my file. Birthdates fit with Margaret's information.
- spider-wn031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 02:00:40 (GMT)
Martha Hutter:
Franz, I do not know them. I never knew there are so many Maussers around. I must say So Long no, hope to meet you all again.
- 1Cust76.tnt40.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 02:03:42 (GMT)
Thomas Stalzer:
Hi everyone, long time no chat!
- nyf-ny-cache1.icg.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 02:04:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Thomas. How have you been?
- spider-wn031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 02:09:51 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi, Jim and Thomas. Looks like all the Lady Folk's went to bed.
- 1Cust184.tnt1.libertyville.il.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 02:13:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It has gotten very quiet. I guess it is time to sign off. Have a good week.
- spider-wn031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 02:13:37 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight to everyone! Hope to chat with you all again.
- mod8.new-philly.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 02:14:21 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, if you have to leave have a pleasnt week.
- 1Cust184.tnt1.libertyville.il.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 02:15:00 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ed and Mary,Good Night.
- 1Cust184.tnt1.libertyville.il.da.uu.net - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 02:16:03 (GMT)
Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Dennis Meditz posted an inquiry regarding the Hotel Meditz in Rieg. Dennis please contact me by e-mail at: wyants@mlecmn.net. Thanks. Look forward to hearing from you.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, September 11, 2000 at 03:11:36 (GMT)
Ludwig Ammer:
Jörg Haider supports bilingual educating for Slovenes children and Slovenes culture in Carinthia. He spends some million Euro for it. Every year. On the other side Slovenes gouvernment does not support Gottschee Begegnungshaus in Oberwarmberg anymore. The last two years they got 1800 Euro. The mayor of Dolenjska Toplice reported to the police, that it is not allowed to use bilingual writing paper and that it is not allowed to show the flag of the country where a visiting supporter comes from. But breakneck speed of 90 km/h (60 mph) is allowed on the street where Gottschee children have to walk to their Gottscheelessons (in the evening, without streetlight). The manageress of `Gottschee culturny centrum´ wanted to have speed limit reduced. But Slovenes politicians say that there is no ethnical or cultural minority group like the Gottschee people, they plainly do not exist. Bilingualism is a privilege for Hungarians and Italians in Slovenia and not for Gottschee. We have to support them. B.&L.Ammer@t-online.de
- p3EE1EECC.dip.t-dialin.net - Friday, September 15, 2000 at 06:20:12 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
To Ludwig Ammer~
Speaking for myself only, I do not like to see this Plauderzimmer used for political rhetoric and I would much prefer it if you did not use it for political purposes, whatever they may be.
I was born in Gottschee. My parents, along with all but a handful of Gottscheers, made the decision to leave Gottschee in 1941. It was a choice, made for better or for worse. We all still like to remember our common ancestry, but I don't think any of the participants who regularly meet in this Plauderzimmer want to turn it into a political forum. It is not the place for it, in my opinion.

- 24.66.13.5.on.wave.home.com - Saturday, September 16, 2000 at 20:58:25 (GMT)
Margret Jonke:
Ridy: Guess I missed out on a lot, when I logged off last Sunday. Maybe someone can fill me in???
- A010-0220.KSCY.splitrock.net - Sunday, September 17, 2000 at 13:16:05 (GMT)
Ludwig Ammer:
Hallo, who knows something about Gladitsch, Glavitsch or Glavic? Thank You: A.&L.Ammer@t-online.de
- p3E9E3138.dip.t-dialin.net - Sunday, September 17, 2000 at 21:46:31 (GMT)
:
sorry: B.&L.Ammer@t-online.de
- p3E9D15EC.dip.t-dialin.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 00:31:02 (GMT)
Lynn:
Hello everyone -- finally got in here at a decent hour!
- ilrscl98.shawneelink.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 00:38:32 (GMT)
Lynn:
Ridy are you still here?
- ilrscl98.shawneelink.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 00:41:21 (GMT)
Lynn:
I don't know if I am still connected since no one is responding. I will keep this window going and check back in a while. I'm working on a story, Lynn
- ilrscl98.shawneelink.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 00:47:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Lynn. You are a wee bit early. The official start time is 9 pm EST but some come a little early and most start a little late.
- spider-tf031.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 00:52:11 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Hello, All. Great to be bck on the plauderzimmer. Special hello to you, Jim, and you Lynn. Wi geht es Dihr? Did I say that correctly??
- A020-1111.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:02:07 (GMT)
Margaret JonkeMargaret JonkeGuten Abend. Mir geht es gut. Wi geht es Dihr?:
Guten Abend. Mir geht es gut. Wi geht es Dihr? I hope I got that all correct. Wanted to try some German
- A020-1111.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:07:11 (GMT)
Margaret JonkeMargaret JonkeGuten Abend. Mir geht es gut. Wi geht es Dihr?:
I'm really having computer problems tonight! Hope I can get this straightened out.
- A020-1111.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:09:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Margaretha. How was your week? I don't know if it was correct but I understood it. I hope your computer glitches clear up.
- 1Cust113.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:14:21 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Thanks. Guess I'm not very good at this computer stuff. I often get messages back as undeliverable. Never know why. Hope some more people log on.
- A020-1111.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:16:26 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Are you on tonight?
- A020-1111.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:17:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
So far it has been pretty light. How is the heartland doing? I think the Chiefs won today so the football fans should be happy.
- 1Cust113.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:17:48 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: The CHiefs won, but they didn't have much competition No matter how you slice it, we are happy for a win. The Coach Gunther Cunningham is probably happier. His job may be a little more secure.
- A020-1111.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:19:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am sure that Gunther likes the win in his column no matter what the competition is. What have you been up to? Anymore genealogy information coming in or are you fairly well set? I did email your cousin once in Florida but did not get a response.
- 1Cust52.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:22:52 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: My cousin, Pete Jonke, Pensacola, is now touring in Slovenia with his sister, Margaret Jonke, and his brother, John. They should have some tales to tell, when they return. Will pass on the stories. They return 9-29-00.
- A020-1111.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:24:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I would be very interested in their experiences in Slovenia. Did they go with a group or by themselves?
- 1Cust52.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:27:38 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Is anybody out there who went to the treffen and can give us a report? Promised Marie Wolf I would have some infor. for her, but nothing.
- A020-1111.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:28:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
We are having an outer space conversation with a lag time of about three minutes.
- 1Cust52.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:28:56 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Pete, John, and Margaret went by themselves. They could have gone with the big group leaving from NY, but they chose to go it alone--rent a car and drive themselves. John has not been too well. I hope everything works out. I would prefer a tourist group, if I went.
- A020-1111.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:29:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
So far it is just you and me in the room. There may be some eavesdroppers in the background.
- 1Cust52.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:29:57 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am not sure how I would like to go. I think I would like a small group with a guide. A lot of the ancestral towns have been destroyed so it would take a little hike to get there. Since there are probably bears, the guide should be equipped to handle that situation.
- 1Cust52.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:31:35 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: I will probably log off soon. As soon as I log off, I print out the evening's chat and mail to Marie Wolf. She enjoys reading it and understands more of the history than I do.
- A020-1111.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:32:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I hope John enjoys the trip. How long are they staying over there?

- 1Cust52.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:32:40 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: BEARS?? Are you sure?
- A020-1111.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:33:21 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
If you don't come back to the room, have a good week.
- 1Cust52.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:33:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I think a good deal of the Gottschee area was a hunting preserve for the Yugoslavian government. I am not sure where I heard that from but I remember it from somewhere.
- 1Cust52.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:34:21 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund. See you next Sunday.
- A020-1111.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:35:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I always wonder what to do with bears. Linda and I like hiking and it would be nice to know what is recommended if we should come across a bear. Run, stand still, pray, all of the above, none of the above. The booklets at the hiking trails will sometimes mention the possibility of seeing a bear but never tell you what to do.
- 1Cust52.tnt1.newark2.nj.da.uu.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:36:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Looks pretty quiet tonight. Will sign off for now. May check in later. Have a good week.
- spider-wi083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 01:44:14 (GMT)
George J. Plautz Jr:
Hi
- spider-tl071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 02:04:45 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Looks like I missed everyone. I am so sorry.
- 1Cust6.tnt2.libertyville.il.da.uu.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 02:10:48 (GMT)
Lynn:
I just came back -- anyone still here?
- ilrscl22.shawneelink.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 02:17:24 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
Anybody still on?
- spider-wo083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 02:27:32 (GMT)
Mary Thurman:
I wanted to tell everyone, I just came back from Minnesota. My mother passed away Sept 8th, unexpectedly, and I have been there for her funeral. I will see everyone next Sunday.
- spider-wo083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 02:32:21 (GMT)
Lynn:
I am so sorry to hear about your loss. You have our condolences and prayers!
- ilrscl22.shawneelink.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 02:33:19 (GMT)
Lynn:
Well, it is now 10PM, so I will sign off. All the best to everyone reading this log, Lynn
- ilrscl22.shawneelink.net - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 02:45:08 (GMT)
Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Greetings to all of you who are regular participants in the Gottscheer Plauderzimmer. I enjoy your conversations and sharing. Regarding possible interest in visiting the Gottscheer region of Slovenia you might be interested to know that the GHGA will host their third group trip to the region. Departure is scheduled for June. 12 and return Sept. 26, 2002. The group will be limtied to 40 participants and we fly to Germany and on to Ljubljana and back home. Our two weeks are divided between the City of Ljubljana, the spa village of Dol. Toplice (located SE of Novo Mesto), the City of Gottschee and the final 2 nights in the beautiful resort town of Bled. It is a great opportunity to rest up for the long flight home and is also located close to Brnik airport. Requirement for this tour is that you be a member of the GHGA (Gottscheer Heritage and Genealogy Assn.) established to preserve the culture, history and family records of Gottschee. To all of you who may not be current members I extend a warm invitation for you to consider joining us in our important work of preserving the Gottscheer history. Feel free to contact me should you have any questions. Have a good week.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 02:47:06 (GMT)
Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Sorry, I wish the trip could be from June 12 to Sept. 26. However, the dates are June 12 to June 26, 2002.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, September 18, 2000 at 02:48:17 (GMT)