Plauderzimmer Log, Apr. '01 - Oct. '01
Helmuth:
Just testing page 4 of the log, have a good week everyone.
- dap-209-166-149-217.pri.tnt-1.pgh.pa.stargate.net - Tuesday, April 17, 2001 at 23:25:40 (GMT)
Fred:
Go to www.kocevje.si a great site
- spider-mtc-tg022.proxy.aol.com - Wednesday, April 18, 2001 at 11:42:59 (GMT)
Wenzina Reinhardt:
Would like to know if there is any Gottschee-family with the name "Wenzina". I am from Austria and have recently come into contact with my family history.
- 62.46.14.120 - Friday, April 20, 2001 at 16:15:22 (GMT)
Heinrich Stalzer:
Richard Wagner’s descendant assails family, German history
By Frank Merkling NEWS-TIMES ARTS CRITIC
2001-04-20
The News-Times/Douglas Healey
Gottfried Wagner, great-grandson of the German composer Richard Wagner, was the center of attention at a reception after his talk at Western Connecticut State University on Wednesday.
DANBURY — He’s descended from two of the most famous musicians who ever lived, but he doesn’t have a good word to say for either of them.
In fact, in his lecture Wednesday evening at Western Connecticut State University, Gott-fried Wagner didn’t have any word at all for great-great-grandfather Franz Liszt.
His talk, sponsored by WestConn’s German Studies Center, dealt with his great-grandfather, Richard Wagner, titled “The Case Wagner: Confronting Family and German History.”
This he did with a vengeance.
Although the great-grandson, who turned 54 just a week ago, claimed that “guilt cannot be inherited,” he seems to have taken on his broad shoulders all the guilt of a much-troubled clan.
This is largely a matter of anti-Semitism, Hitler and the Holocaust, all of which Wagner discussed systematically and as if with footnotes, reading from text.
“The children of the perpetrators have lost consciousness of their parents’ world, or refused to confront it,” he said, going on to speak of “a loss of orientation” and “emotional paralysis.”
He has made a worldwide career of traversing this path. He was “blowed up” by 15 neo-Nazis at Occidental College in Los Angeles.
Even the not-quite-English title of his lecture had a reference — to a well-known diatribe by the German philosopher Nietzsche, who started out as a Wagnerite but suffered a change of heart.
“(Wagner’s) anti-Semitism set the tone for the Bayreuth Festi
- 1Cust56.tnt1.har1.da.uu.net - Friday, April 20, 2001 at 16:44:54 (GMT)
Gerhard Samide:
Hallo, komme aus Österreich, mein Großvater Josef ist in Schalkendorf 20/Gottschee/Krain am 7.1.1864 geboren.
Die Eltern waren Johann Samide und Maria Samide geborene Hutter.
- olinz-6005.utaonline.at - Friday, April 20, 2001 at 21:31:16 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Grüß Dich Gott, Gerhard!
Ich bin in Toronto, Kanada und war in Kukendorf, Gottschee, geboren - vor vielen, vielen Jahren! Deiner Addresse nach nehme ich an das Du in Linz wohnhaft bist. Stimmt das? Ich wohnte nach dem Krieg in Graz, und dahin hab' ich ab und zu noch Heimweh. Melde Dich doch ab und zu wieder!
- 24.66.13.5 - Friday, April 20, 2001 at 22:15:58 (GMT)
Gerhard SAmide:
Hallo Ridy!
Deine Antwort freut mich.
Meinen Wohnort hast Du beinahe erraten, wohne in Amstetten, das ist ca. 50 km östlich von Linz.
Schöne Grüße nach Toronto, Gerhard
- olinz-6410.utaonline.at - Saturday, April 21, 2001 at 20:08:44 (GMT)
Heinrich:
Testing
- proxy.sna.netsetter.com - Saturday, April 21, 2001 at 20:50:27 (GMT)
Heinrich Stalzer:
Schalkendorf 20/Gottschee/Krain ........Gerhard Samide
KRAIN ......KRAJINA, KRANJ....KRAINBURG
Was bedeuted das Wort Krain? Es bedeuted nicht Kranj, vieleicht beduted es Krajina, und das bedeuted Gebiet?
- 1Cust85.tnt4.har1.da.uu.net - Saturday, April 21, 2001 at 20:59:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, everyone. Hope the week was good.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 00:57:05 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Hi Jim!
Glad someone else is early this evening!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:07:03 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Terrible storm coming to KCMO. May have to log off pretty quickly.
- A020-1099.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:09:09 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Heinrich Stalzer: I have Stlzer cousins. My great grandmother was Ursula Stalzer, before she marred Andreas Jonke of Kummerdorf. Maybe we are distant cousins.
- A020-1099.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:11:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Figured I would try to get in early. The weather is finally nice in New Jersey.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:11:31 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
It's been beautiful up here in Toronto, Margaret. The daffodils and forsythia and violets and pansies are looking very cheerful.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:11:59 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Does Heinrich Stalzer know English? I didn't think about that, before I typed it out.
- A020-1099.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:12:26 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I don't know. He's asking if anyone knows the meaning of the word Krain. Other than the fact that it was the name of the Province in which Gottschee was located while it was still part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, I don't know what else it means.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:13:51 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Will log off for now. Maybe I'll be back, after storm passes. If not, Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib Gesund.
- A020-1099.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:14:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The cherry blossoms are in full bloom in Newark. The park was designed by the same person who designed Central Park. The cherry trees are beautiful. There should be a wee bit more refuse removal. Too much in the way of bottles and debris.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:15:50 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Jim ~
Did you hear from the lady whose name I sent you? I don't recall the name, and I can't access my computer Inbox files since I crashed it.
By the way, if anyone has tried to reach me and not received an answer - that's the reason. My computer got yet another virus, and I am waiting until my son gets back to Toronto before it gets fixed. In the meantime, you can reach me at RidyMaria@Netscape.net
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:17:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Heinrich definitely knows english.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:17:40 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Aaah, cherry blossoms! I've always wanted to visit Washington at this time of year. . . .someday, I hope!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:18:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, she never emailed back. Perhaps she will in a couple of days.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:18:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I took a couple of pictures. If they come out okay, I will scan it and send.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:20:06 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Yes - I hope so. I had a call from the cousin who had sent me her enquiry, asking if I had been in touch. But you know genealogy is not my strong suite.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:20:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
You find them and I will help out as much as I can.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:21:18 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Wonder if Trix is back from her granddaughter's christening yet?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:24:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Things have been very quiet from Minnesota this week.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:25:49 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Oh, I had a call from one of my Mausser cousins, Jim, and apparently my 90+ year-old-aunt has found some pictures from the days in Ebental which they will let me have. Can't wait to see them!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:26:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It is amazing how many times you come up with photographs. Remember to make notations on the back of them when you get them. I put mine in an album but I still need to write on the back.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:28:16 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello everyone! Hope you all had a good week.
In case you didn't know, there is now an Ellis Island site available with passenger records, lists, etc. from 1892-1924. There are even ship histories and pictures available. Ed has already found info on his grandparents and a great aunt, who all came from Gottschee. Here is the address: http://www.ellisislandrecords.org. It's very interesting!
- mod14.new-philly.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:28:17 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Hi Ed and Mary! Long time no hear!
Thanks for that address - that should be very interesting!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:29:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It is supposed to be a great site but it is very busy and hard to get on. Can't wait to get on it.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:30:26 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Yes, the site is busy, but we found if you keep pressing "refresh," you can usually get on. Hope you find it as interesting as we have.
- mod14.new-philly.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:33:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Can't wait to get on it and start plugging Gottscheer names. Does the site give other information such as birthdates?
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:37:22 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Howdy friends, how is everyone tonight?
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:39:18 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Greetings, Franz.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:39:51 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Grüß Dich Gott, Franz! Wie geht's? Wie steht's?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:40:44 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Available on the passenger records are name, residence, date of arrival, age on arrival. Then you can access more personal info such as ethnicity, place of residence, gender, marital status and name of ship and port of departure. There may be more later, but that's what we've gotten so far. We haven't found birthdates yet.
- mod14.new-philly.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:41:13 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, Gruess Gott. Ab und zu steht man auf einem Bein.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:42:55 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
WOW! That's a lot of information to start with. A wonderful resource. I'll have to check if any similar records are being posted up here. . . .
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:43:09 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, how is NJ, any snow left over ?
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:47:01 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi Franz! We recently sent a copy of the photo of Komutzen to Maria Kraker Mausser in Ridgewood. That photo is a big hit with all!
Ridy: It is a very neat site. One of our sons, Joe, called us Friday night and was so excited. He said "I just typed in Kraker and got pages of them!"
- mod14.new-philly.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:47:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I was shut out again. I will try again later.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:47:23 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good Evening Ed& Mary, I am glad to hear about the popularity of the Komutzen photo.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:49:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
No snow left. I think it is finally all over. It will be in the 60-70 degree range. Sunny. The daffodils are up. The ground is still too wet to work for the garden. How is the weather in Chicago?
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:50:42 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Jim: Ed says it sometimes takes a lot of patience - but it's worth it! There are no doubt a lot of curious descendants of immigrants searching for info.
- mod14.new-philly.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:52:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I will try to get in at a slower time.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:53:11 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, it has been on and off. This morning in the upper 40, afterwards hot and humid, tonight considerable cool. As the say, if you don't like the weather in Chicago wait 10 minutes.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:54:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
That is a little colder than I thought it would be at this time. At least the Cubs are keeping warm.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:55:26 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight to all! Hope you have a good week and can eventually access the Ellis Island site.
We want to catch the 10 p.m. news. The Indians won again today!!
- mod14.new-philly.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:56:25 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Good night, Ed and Mary ~ see you next week!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:57:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I wonder if Trix roots for the Twins. They are winning for the first time in years.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:57:00 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, the Cubs are no different, wait a few weeks and they too will cool off.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:57:10 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good Night Ed & Mary.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:58:25 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
It's definitely baseball season again! Cubs - Indians -
loved the article in the NYT the day after the 17-inning marathon between the Yankees and the Blue Jays -- it started out that the Yankees needed only 9 innings to defeat the Red Sox! Cute!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:59:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Ed & Mary
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 01:59:57 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
It's a crazy thing with the Cubs, even if the loose all the games the fans will still pack the ballpark.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:02:20 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Well, Franz - fans comes from the fanatic. . . and fanatics do crazy things! Especially baseball fanatics.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:03:38 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, I am still waiting for my fanatic fans.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:04:35 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I enjoy keeping track of sports in general but I like basketball the best. Still play now and then. Did well on Thursday with only a few black and blue marks on the body.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:05:48 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
So, Jim - do you think there's any truth to the rumor that Michael Jordan is planning a comeback?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:06:47 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Be careful Jim, one of my employees recently broke some bone in his foot playing basketball.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:07:28 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Franz - what do you do to turn us all into your fans? Or are you just handsome?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:07:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Don't know about Michael. He has nothing to prove but he just miss the competitive aspects of the game. I go out there and the juices start to flow. His juices flow and millions flow back.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:08:12 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, go figure.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:08:37 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, you are probably right.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:09:35 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Aha - you say "one of my employees" - that means you have more than one. . . .I only have one, and only one day a week at that.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:10:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Well, basketball has dislocated my shoulder, torn my ACL, broken two bones in my hand, sprained my ankle innumerable times, and causes my back to ache. But I still love it.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:10:40 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, are you sure you have an employee and not slave?
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:11:15 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, that's what I call love and dedication for basketball.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:12:20 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Jim - I thought doctors knew better than to practice self-abuse.
No Franz - I don't have a slave! I'm not a capitalist. . .
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:13:51 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, now, now, this has to come from a socialist Canadian.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:15:15 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
My wife would call it insanity. She is always warning me not to come home with another injury. At least a major one.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:15:33 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
A Liberal socialist Canuck
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:16:43 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Uh oh. Politics.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:17:44 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
You're right -- I didn't start that!
I'll behave - I promise!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:18:37 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, you are lucky that you still have a home to come to.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:18:40 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
No, it was the capitalist as usual.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:19:31 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Look whose talking! Franz the skier with a fragile back!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:19:32 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, skiing is no problem. It,s the honeydoes that wreck me.
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:21:07 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Franz - I'm only a socialist because I'm trying to live on my Old Age Pension! Can you imagine -- that's what we call it in Canada! As if we needed the Government to tell us that we're old!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:21:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I would try skiing but noone in my family will go with me. Linda is out after the car accident and Amanda refuses. I guess I can do without it.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:21:08 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
OK - I'll bite... what are honeydoes?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:21:56 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, we all have our passions, don't we?
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:22:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I think they should think up a different name. Golden Goodies or something like that. Old Age ---- yuck.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:22:34 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, you mean Canucks don't have them?
- 1Cust69.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:23:37 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Canucks have winter and hockey. Period.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:25:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I think I will stay away from this explanation.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:25:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Basketball has done well in Toronto but Vancouver didn't pan out. How are the Blue Jays accepted?
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:26:51 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Wonder if Marylu and Holly are out there somewhere? I need backup.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:26:54 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, what is Ridy trying to convene to us? What is old age?
- 1Cust57.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:26:56 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, you are doing fine. Old age is what my back feels like.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:28:18 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
The Blue Jays are doing OK so far this season. The fan base has eroded considerably after the last few losing seasons, but there are signs that they are coming back. Hey! We've got Carlos!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:29:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Actually, for me, old age will only hit when my brain stops working. I can adjust to physical limitations but the brain has to keep working.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:29:48 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Chicago for sure needs help soon with basketball. What a fiasko. The Bulls Owners thought they are the Cubs and the fans will show up anyway. For a while they did, but their patience is wearing thin.
- 1Cust57.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:30:44 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Tell the Bulls to give me a call. The Nets are not much better.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:32:02 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Jim - you are right, of course. And with a computer to play with, the brain doesn't need to get rusty. Wish more people in my generation would give it a try.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:32:07 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, that is an excellent idea, I will give Jerry Kraus your phone number.
- 1Cust57.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:34:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I think the mind is just a thinking muscle. The more you exercise it, the better it is. Genealogy gives me quite a bit of exercise. My typing has certainly improved.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:34:26 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, in german they say "Uebung macht den Meister". Ridy will you translate this please.
- 1Cust57.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:37:06 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Well, my thinking muscle has had all the exercise it can tolerate for one evening. Have to rest it up to tackle the tax returns tomorrow. It's been fun - enjoy the week.
Gute Nacht!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:37:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Concerning the Bulls, I would work for the minimum. At least until I start scoring. Heck, they paid Will Perdue all those years.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:37:50 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
"practice makes perfect"
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:37:58 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, socilists don't have to pay taxes, or do they? Have a Good Night and a Good week. I hope I did not get to you..
- 1Cust57.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:39:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good luck with both the sandman and the taxman. Franz, have you had a chance to contact anyone in the Chicago Gottscheer club? I wish the GHGA would try to get some membership lists before the information is lost.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:39:29 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Ridy.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:39:38 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, shame on me, I have tried but I guess not hard enough. I will continue to work on it. I had and still have a lot of irons in the fire.
- 1Cust57.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:41:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, don't worry. We all have other things to do. Work, for instance. Basketball for another.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:43:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am keeping an eye on the RSNA for October 2001. Have not been there for a couple of years so it may just be time. If I make it there, you can direct me to some good German food.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:45:41 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, its a shame. When I first came I was not so much interested in the Gottscheer connections, now we are all sread all over and it is harder to find those connections. It was the same with all of us. That is why the clubs disintegrated.
- 1Cust57.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:48:09 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim I hope you let me know in time, we will find some German Food even though the selections are fewer.
- 1Cust57.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:50:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Same here. Only difference is that I didn't even know where I came from. Trying to make up for lost time. The more people I contact, the more I think I can see patterns in that some areas of Gottschee tended to emigrate to certain areas of the country. Probably related to the initial wave and the type of work available.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:51:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
German food and German beer. Maybe a bottle of German wine. Some wursts, veal, and spaetzel.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:52:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I wonder where everyone else is tonight. Maybe they are watching the Milwaukee Bucks and the Magic. Nah, I don't think so. It is an interesting game. Very fast paced.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:55:28 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
I tink in earlier times people used to go to the areas where there was work and other likewise background. When I left I did not look if there were other Gottscheers, I just picked my destination and left.
- 1Cust57.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:55:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am going to sign off for now. Franz, have a good night and week. If you remember any names or dates, just send them along.
- spider-th054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:56:08 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, as usual it was a nice chat. Have a Good Night and a good week as well.
- 1Cust57.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:57:15 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
I tink in earlier times people used to go to the areas where there was work and other likewise background. When I left I did not look if there were other Gottscheers, I just picked my destination and left.
- 1Cust57.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 02:58:32 (GMT)
patricia:
Sorry I missed everyone does anyone know where Buzzari Austria was or is??? Thanks
- ip145.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 05:43:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Patricia, haven't heard of it. I checked with a search enging and nothing came up. How and where was it used? Was it supposed to be in Gottschee?
- spider-ti074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 21:56:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
That was engine and not enging. Sorry for the typo.
- spider-ti074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 21:56:58 (GMT)
patricia:
Jim It is on an Ellis Island document as a home town. I also can not find anything so I wonder if it either does not exist anymore or has had a name change
- ip88.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Tuesday, April 24, 2001 at 19:17:02 (GMT)
Zimmermann Sigi:
Bitte wer kann meiner Uroma eine riesen Freude machen
und mir sagen wo ich Bild oder Filmmaterial von Gottschee
herbekomme.
Mit freundlichen Grüssen
Zimmermann Sigfried
Joh.Böhm.Str.30
8605 Kapfenberg
Austria
Email h.suschnig@hiway.at
- cache01.netway.at - Thursday, April 26, 2001 at 19:35:47 (GMT)
Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Sigi: Gottscheer Grüße aus Minnesota. Du fragst um Bilder oder Filmaterial von Gottschee. Meinst Du von der Stadt Gottschee oder von dem Gottscheerland. Bitte schick mir ein e-mail und beschreibe alles genau. Danke und alles, alles Gute an Dich sowie auch Deiner Uroma. Ich bin in der Moschnitze geboren und kam im April 1952 nach Amerika. Servus!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Thursday, April 26, 2001 at 23:18:29 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Sigi: Die Gottscheer Relief Association in New York hat ein herrliches video, welches in Gottschee im Jahre 1936 aufgenommen war. Das ist auch für Europäische Maschinen erhältlich. Ich kann Dir versichern das sich Deine Uroma darüber freuen würde, und staunen wird wenn sie es sieht. Es ist den Preis wert und noch mehr. Schreibe an:
Mr. Ernst Eppich
Gottscheer Relief Association
84-36 267th Street
Floral Park, New York 11001
U.S.A.
- 24.66.13.5 - Friday, April 27, 2001 at 01:14:42 (GMT)
wenzina:
wir haben in unserer ahnengeschichte gefunden, dass die wenzhinas aus reifnitz, unterkrain kommen. meine frage ist nun: liegt dieser ort noch im gottscheer land oder nicht und gibt es diesen familiennamen wenzina/wenzhina heute noch irgendwo?
- 62.46.15.38 - Friday, April 27, 2001 at 19:39:15 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Wenzina:
Reifnitz liegt ausserhalb Gottschee, aber fast an der Grenze. Ich war in Kukendorf, Gottschee, geboren, und Reifnitzt lag ganz in der Nähe, etwas nördlich von Kukendorf. Reifnitz existiert noch, aber Kukendorf leider nicht mehr. Der Name Wenzina ist mir nicht bekannt.
- 24.66.13.5 - Friday, April 27, 2001 at 20:59:28 (GMT)
wenzina:
danke ridy
- 62.46.15.245 - Sunday, April 29, 2001 at 18:03:24 (GMT)
jim heimann:
anyone online tonight? Hope everyone had a good week.
- spider-wq023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 01:18:40 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. I'm on, Jim. Wei geht es alle??
- A010-0188.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 01:20:58 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Pretty slow tonight. Very warm in KCMO. Hope this doesn't mean a terribly hot summer.
- A010-0188.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 01:27:19 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Thank you for looking up JOnke family members. Have forwarded list to Marie Wolf and Pete Yonke to see if there is a connection.
- A010-0188.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 01:30:54 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guess I will sign off. Aur wiedersehen. Bleib gesund. Alles gut.
- A010-0188.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 01:31:53 (GMT)
Sophia:
Greetings to one and all. I am sorry to be late and having missed Margaret. If you can come back Margaret, Hi. Hope the rest of you are doing well.
We survived our trip to central Wisconsin but on the way home got caught in the terrible ice storm in Duluth. Spent the night at the hotel only to have the lights go off at 10 p.m. It was an interest night to say the least. Very happy to be home. The ice on the lake went out and the loon and Ole and Lena (Canadian geese) have returned along with many and various species of ducks.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 01:48:13 (GMT)
Sophia:
I hope all of you have enjoyed exploring the Ellis Island Web Site. Patience is the name of the game. Tough to do for this Gottscheer lady but need to remember IT IS IN CHARGE! Lets hear your experiences with it.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 01:52:16 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Sophia, Patience is not one of my salient qualities. I will check the site every now and then but I think I will wait until they have expanded their capacity before I use it more often.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 01:57:53 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
Hello Everyone, I have checked the Ellis Island site enought to know the 3 people I was hoping to find are not there. I have tried every spelling i can think of.
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 01:59:08 (GMT)
Sophia:
Hi Dr. Jim. Want you to know that I can be stubborn too. Got up at 4 a.m. last Thursday and went on the computer. To my joy found all the information on my grandfather Franz Stalzer who came to Mn. in 1907. What I really like is that you can get pages of fellow passengers showing their home towns. It is just wonderful to see the names and the villages in Gottschee where they originated from.
Now the question is this: Is there a way to collect these pages and keep track of the names and villages or is the huge amount of information impossible to organize?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:02:01 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Hi, Marilu. Were you able to help out the Sterk family? Were they related to you?
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:02:07 (GMT)
Sophia:
Mary, remember the years in question 18-- to 1924. Any chance they may not have come during that time period?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:03:15 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim We hav emailed a couple of times, and I think I am related to the family, but on the Underberg side. However, she is getting more information from her grandfather. She may end out helping me more than I help her.
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:04:43 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Sophia, when the site becomes more usable, it might be worth looking into. Right now the information is not sortable enough and it takes too long to get to it. The information could be catalogued in an spreadsheet format ---- name, date, location, age, estimated birthyear, ship name, and so on. This way you could group the information by town, or name or date to get links going.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:04:57 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
Sophia, the ones I am looking for came in that time period. I have found the ones that came earlier. I did not find a single person from Bistriz in the lists so far.
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:05:48 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Marilu, either way it goes, everyone will benefit. Glad to help get the two of you together and hope it will add some branches or leaves to your tree.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:06:23 (GMT)
Sophia:
Dr. Jim: That is exactly what I have in mind. Would a group of people who have the knowledge do it? Boy, I would love a copy of the compiled lists as I do so much connecting.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:06:36 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
I have been up at 4:00 several times to go to the site!!!
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:06:41 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Sophia, had a long conversation with Edeltraud Krauland-Kneier. Have ordered the book and will write her back. She composed the book on a computer but gave it away. I suggested she get another computer because of all the information that is now available online.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:07:51 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
Jim there is one more person who is from that same family, I have been in contact with. I have to look up her email too.
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:07:55 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Too early to do that with the ship information. It would just take too long to go through all the ships even in the best of times. Huge undertaking. Perhaps searching the lists using last name spellings would be the way to go but now the site is just too slow to do anything like that.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:09:35 (GMT)
Sophia:
Franz Mausser - if you are on, have a question for you. As I was looking for a Franz Mausser from the Moschnitze area I came across one from Komutzen. He arrived October 25, 1910, was 11 months old and traveled on the shipL Chicago from France. Any relation to you?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:10:09 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Marilu, is the Ellis site any better at that time?
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:10:13 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
Yes at 4:00 you can get on and things go a little quicker, but by 5:oo it is slowing down again.
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:11:48 (GMT)
Sophia:
Ridy: WHERE ARE YOU?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:12:41 (GMT)
jim heimann:
That is what I figured. They underestimated the online traffic that they would be drawing so things are so slow.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:13:00 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Ridy is up and running with her computer. I am surprised she has not made it here tonight.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:13:41 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
I have seen a couple of news items, and they had no idea they would be so swamped, and are adding new servers everyday.
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:13:50 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
Sophia, thanks again for the pictures you sent me.
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:14:22 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Everyone who is interested in genealogy will be on that site. I have located my grandmother and her sister. The only problem is that the people's exact birthdates are not listed so it may be difficult matching a Johann Mausser born on a specific date with the estimated birthyear on the Ellis Island site.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:17:00 (GMT)
Sophia:
Mary: I will be very anxious to read your book. I know it will be well done.
Do you have anything specific that you would like to ask Mr. Rom who still lives in Bistriz? My research tells me that he is a member of the Peter Kosler Gottscheer Verein in Slovenia. I would gladly talk to the president to get answers to any questions you may have.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:17:46 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
Sophia, if he would know anything about the Peschel family, I would love to know that. Any history at all about them.
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:19:13 (GMT)
Sophia:
Mary: Will e-mail Erik Krisch, the President and let you know. He is in India the rest of the week but the e-mail will be waiting for him upon his return.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:22:30 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Everybody!
Yes! I'm back on the full computer, not just hobbling along on one leg. But tons of messages to get through, and the kitchen needed some attention as well. The kids were home for dinner. . .
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:23:06 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
Oh thanks Sophia.
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:23:07 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Hello, Ridy.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:26:40 (GMT)
Sophia:
Hi Ridy. Long time no hear. So glad the computer is clean. Hope it stays. We installed the German made anti virus program Kaspersky Lab. So far, so good. How are you?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:28:16 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
Hi Ridy
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:29:21 (GMT)
Sophia:
Going back to the Ellis Island site. One thing that all of us could do is collect our individual findings. Wouldn't it be great if one person could volunteer to collect them (as w send the information via e-mail), organize them by villages and then names. Any thoughts on this? Just for the record, I can't volunteer but someone might be happy to do that.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:30:18 (GMT)
Ridy:
I have both the Norton and McAfee programs and Norton caught the problem. The trouble was that it just locked up more than it should have and I didn't know what to do about it. In the end, it seems that there was no real damage done, and it left me no choice but to concentrate on writing, which was very good!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:33:18 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Sophia, perhaps we can put a note in one of the Gottscheer publications about putting together a database. If people could mail or email their data, I am sure we could get some people together to get it into a spreadsheet format. This is also a topic that might be a good one for the June meeting. I would be willing to help out.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:34:03 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - I'm expecting to see Linda in the Plauderzimmer one of these Sundays and she'll be saying: No, Jim, you are not volunteering for anything else!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:35:59 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
JIm will you be in Denver in June
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:36:08 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Marilu,
No, I don't think I will be in Denver. We will just be returning from vacation that weekend. My vacation week appears to coincide with the meeting so I will have to be careful about the 2002 meeting. I am disappointed that I will not be able to go this year. I would like to meet some of my chat room friends.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:38:31 (GMT)
jim heimann:
Ridy, I only said that I would help out. We would need a lot of people if it looks like a good way to go. We would also need to standardize the data format so that everyone is inputting it in the same way. This way you could merge separate files without difficulty.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:40:18 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
That is my thinking, I was hoping to meet all of you!!!!
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:40:54 (GMT)
Sophia:
Lets make it unanimous - Jim WILL BE in Denver this year. Well, if not Denver remember Lukan's in Hawley, PA in 2002. Sorry, Dr. Jim, I could not resist.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:42:00 (GMT)
Sophia:
Well, lets keep it simple. Someone who knows how to do the spread sheet, data base etc. needs to be in charge. Any thoughts on any volunteers.
The Gottscheer Connection is in the mail to all of you who are members. The next one will not go to print until July. That is a long time from now and would mean a lot of catching up. Can't this be done now and thus preventing being overwhelmed?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:44:39 (GMT)
jim heimann:
What are the dates again? I will recheck.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:45:16 (GMT)
Sophia:
Way to go Dr. Jim. The dates are: June 22 - 24. Need to make room reservations soon. Identify yourself with the GHGA for the special rate.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:46:34 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
Well, I know speadsheets, but at the present time I am to immersed in my own genealogy, I would not have the time it needs. I have been doing some transcribing for the Carroll County site.
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:46:43 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
I need to get my conference fees sent in too!!!
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:47:22 (GMT)
Ridy:
I keep hearing wonderful things about Lukans in Hawley. . .
But that's 14 months away!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:47:48 (GMT)
jim heimann:
I don't think July would be too long but we could post some messages asking for suggestions as to how to do this on the bulletin board as well as the GHGA site. This could be a large undertaking and the site is just too slow to work with at the current time. When it gets faster, it will be easier to gather information.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:47:49 (GMT)
jim heimann:
I looked at the calendar. We return from vacation on the 22nd at night so there is little chance that I could return and get to Denver in time for the entire conference. I think Hawley is the ticket.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:49:33 (GMT)
Sophia:
I accept and I UNDERSTAND. I certainly hope to meet you in Hawley. You are off the hook but thanks for being a good sport. Enjoyed challenging you.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:51:28 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
I agree, the site is way too slow now to do anything with it.
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:52:17 (GMT)
Ridy:
Trixie - you don't challenge - you steamroller! But luv you anyway!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:52:31 (GMT)
Jim:
Ridy, Sophia is the essence of subtlety. I have been looking for a way to get to Denver but Linda would have me ground into Krainerwurst if I tried to pull that one off.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:54:46 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
Jim, when you fly back from vacation you and Linda should be landing in Denver instead of home!!
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:56:18 (GMT)
Jim:
Just posted a message on the bulletin board about the Ellis Island information. Would be interested in what type of responses we get. The biggest hole in the genealogy trail are those Gottscheers who came over in that late 1800s to early 1900s. Some of them do not even know that they came from Gottschee. I did not until a couple of years ago. There are many Gottscheers recorded in the 1910 Ohio census. I keep running into those names as I surf around.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:57:25 (GMT)
Ridy:
Thanks for the laugh, Jim. . . .Hmmmm, I've got a couple of Krainerwürste in the 'fridge - a gift from my sister, who didn't realize they're not on my diet! Now that would entice you to come to Toronto - right?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:57:37 (GMT)
Sophia:
Dr. Jim: Have no idea what the word "subtlety" means. You need to remember I am still learning English but will be looking it up in moments. Ridy, luv you too.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:58:57 (GMT)
Jim:
Marilu,
I thought about that as well. I may give it a whirl with Linda but I think it will be to hectic considering the number of changeovers and the amount of time involved. The last thing I would want to do is make the end of a vacation stressful.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:59:04 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good Evening, Guten Abend, Gruess Gott.
- 1Cust108.tnt7.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:59:14 (GMT)
Jim:
Ridy,
I will be up there tomorrow for the wursts.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 02:59:39 (GMT)
Sophia:
Well, my German - English Dictionary doesn't have it. Out comes the large one.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:00:06 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Who will attend the conference in Denver?
- 1Cust108.tnt7.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:00:11 (GMT)
Jim:
Subtlety --- nuance, deft shading ........
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:00:31 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
What Wuurst?
- 1Cust108.tnt7.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:01:12 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
It is so close, I will be there.
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:01:33 (GMT)
Jim:
I wonder what that says about Germans when the dictionary does not have the word. Actually, Langenscheidt's has the word -- Feinheit. Does that fit?
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:02:06 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
JIm where are you going on vacation?
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:02:15 (GMT)
Ridy:
Grias di Gött, Franzl - dü kimmescht heint eppos spüate!
Boy, that Gottscheer spelling is an exercise in fantasy!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:02:27 (GMT)
Jim:
Franz, Ridy has offered me some Krainerwursts if I visit.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:02:40 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
I will try, wouldn't it be easier in Col. Springs?
- 1Cust108.tnt7.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:02:45 (GMT)
Sophia:
Hi Franz. Do me a favor. Go to the earlier message addressed to you and tell me if the relative who arrived in the USA in 1910 is related to you. Hope all is well in Chiago.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:03:11 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, if you attend I will try to look for a ton of Krainers.
- 1Cust108.tnt7.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:03:39 (GMT)
Jim:
We will be sunning ourselves on the sandy beaches of Aruba. A little sun, a little sand, a little snorkeling, a little scuba,.......
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:03:55 (GMT)
Jim:
Franz, you are making it very tempting. I may have to run downstairs and grab a landjager (I am not sure of the spelling but it is a thin, five inch or so smoked sausage).
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:05:14 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
Franz, Denver is only 120 miles away...piece of cake.
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:05:25 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Chicago had one of the most beautyful days.
- 1Cust104.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:05:38 (GMT)
Sophia:
Wow, Dr. Jim. I love the word. Thanks but know it will not go to my head, ok.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:06:14 (GMT)
Jim:
Well, guys, it is time for me to close up shop. I have been on call this weekend and I may get some calls tonight so I will start a little earlier on my beauty sleep. Sophia, can you post something on the GHGA site similar to my bulletin board message? If not, I will try to get to it tomorrow.
Good night to all.
- spider-wq052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:07:02 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, Landjaeger is an abstract of a Krainer. I must say for an MD. you live on the edge.
- 1Cust104.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:07:21 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good Night Jim.
- 1Cust104.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:08:24 (GMT)
Ridy:
G'nite Jim!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:08:39 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
goodnight Jim
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:09:19 (GMT)
Ridy:
The dishwasher just went off, and duty calleth!
Good night, everyone -- see you all next week.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:10:08 (GMT)
Sophia:
Good night Dr. Jim. Thanks for your good contributions to an enjoyable evening. I would appreciate it if you would do the posting. You do it so well. Danke vielmals.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:10:30 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, lei tuea noech goettscheabarisch schreibn, es geat ju gueat.
- 1Cust104.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:10:33 (GMT)
Mary Peschel Thurman:
Yes goodnight everyone..my bed is calling...it has been a long day
- spider-mtc-ta011.proxy.aol.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:10:45 (GMT)
Sophia:
Ridy, sleep well.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:11:17 (GMT)
Franz:
Sophia, I am looking for that message. My paternal Grandfather came sometime befor WWI. His name was Anton Mausser.
- 1Cust104.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:17:05 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, lei tuea noech goettscheabarisch schreibn, es geat ju gueat.
- 1Cust104.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:23:32 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Chicago had one of the most beautyful days.
- 1Cust104.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 03:23:55 (GMT)
Patricia:
Hello all sorry I joined late but my mother had us over for dinner and to celebrate her new garden that we installed yesterday. Its so nice to be outside with the flowers... I have about a day left before the cottonwood pops and sends me back inside Ha
- ip170.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 04:03:35 (GMT)
Patricia:
Sophia I recieved the Herbst side from Helen this week and she is working on the Fink side as we speak!! Our mystery remains my great-grandfather Markovic a man of mystery.
- ip170.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 04:05:40 (GMT)
Patricia:
I had some luck on the ellis island site this week as well, finding one of my great-grandmother Magdalena Herbst nee Fink,s crossing with what looks to be another child we did not know about !! The site is sooooo slow and only lets me work in the wee hours of the night.
- ip170.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 04:09:55 (GMT)
Patricia:
It looks as if you have all turned in oh well maybe I will catch you next week.
- ip170.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, April 30, 2001 at 04:11:05 (GMT)
Gerhard Samide:
Hallo Ridy,
habe heute durch Zufall ein e-mail von Dir gelesen, dass Du meinem Sohn Christian vor ca. einem Jahr geschrieben hast.
Ich bin 1947 in der Nähe von Amstetten geboren.
Es tut mir leid, dass Du in so jungen Jahren deine Heimat verlassen mußtest.Mein Großvater der in Schalkendorf 1864 geboren wurde hat ungefähr 1880 seine Heimat verlassen nachdem seine Mutter gestoben ist. Er ist nach Österreich gezogen und hat in Amstetten gelebt.
Für den Fall dass Du zum Namen Samide oder Schalkendorf in Deinem Bekanntenkreis etwas in Erfahrung bringst bitte ich um Deine Mitteilung.
Herzliche Grüße aus Österreich, und guten Abend über den großen Teich.
Gerhard
- olinz-4669.utaonline.at - Tuesday, May 01, 2001 at 19:09:57 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Grüß Dich, Gerhard ~
Leider habe ich die e-mail Addresse von Christian nicht mehr. Hatte in der Zwischenzeit zwei computer crashes und hab dadurch etliches verloren. Würdest Du bitte so lieb sein und mir Deine e-mail addresse schicken. . . . Jim Heiman meinte schon das er Deine Ahnen in seiner data base hat und er würde Dir das gerne schicken. Meine e-mail ist jetzt ridy@home.com Bitte melde Dich. Liebe Grüße, Ridy
- 24.66.13.5 - Tuesday, May 01, 2001 at 23:37:14 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
For those of you working on Ellis Island Passenger Lists: Do you know you can print the ship manifest page with your ancestor on it, for future reference, as to who else came with. And would be useful for compliling a database later on.
- spider-tj062.proxy.aol.com - Wednesday, May 02, 2001 at 12:50:39 (GMT)
Sophia:
Hi Marilu: That is exactly what I have been doing. Also suggested that it would be great if one person could chair this project. That all lists that we, as individuals, print out could be forwarded to that person. This could then develop into an orderly way of cross checking, usage and sharing. No doubt about it, at least my mind, that there is a real potential here for an exciting and worthwhile project. What we need is someone who has the knowhow, can give it the time and knows how to do it. Thanks for your message Marilu.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Wednesday, May 02, 2001 at 19:05:35 (GMT)
Fanz Mausser:
At about the turn of the last century my paternal grandfather, Anton Mausser, crossed the ocean twice. However the Ellisisland records show only one by that name, his age and the village of origin "MAVERN" don't seem to match.
- 1Cust67.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Thursday, May 03, 2001 at 08:28:50 (GMT)
Sophia:
Hi Franz. But what about the Franz Mausser from Komtzen who came over on Oct. 25, 1910. Any relation to you?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Thursday, May 03, 2001 at 14:49:44 (GMT)
wenzina:
can anybody tell me what the "Neustadtler Kreis" means?
Weiß jemand, was der Begriff "Neustadtler Kreis" im Zusammenhang mit Gottschee bedeutet?
- M203P019.dipool.highway.telekom.at - Thursday, May 03, 2001 at 16:46:38 (GMT)
patricia:
Sophia I recieved the pictures today thank you so much!!!
- ip178.sacramento9.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Friday, May 04, 2001 at 19:17:36 (GMT)
Birgit:
Hallo Wenzina,soweit ich weiß ist der Begriff alles das, was im Umkreis von Neustadtl ist.Deutsch heißt Neustadtl Rudolfswert und Slowenisch heißt es Nowomesto.
- spider-fra-tc072.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, May 05, 2001 at 10:17:13 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hallo Birgit! Kannst Du vieleicht auch mir helfen? Ich suche schon längst vergeblich nach dem Slowenischen Namen für das Dorf, Puschendorf in der Nähe von Zirkle/Cerklje. Ist es vieleicht Buseca vas? Es ist nur einige Kilometer entfernt von Krsko and Brezice. Meine e-mail ist ridy@home.com Herzlichen Dank!
- 24.66.13.5 - Saturday, May 05, 2001 at 13:33:14 (GMT)
fredl:
grisaich aue midannunder vohn rusboch
- spider-wo053.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, May 06, 2001 at 00:12:34 (GMT)
Sophia:
Bear bischt Dü Rredl? Bischt Dü von Rusboch, Gottscheab?
Oeder bischt Dü alascht in Amerika?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Sunday, May 06, 2001 at 02:40:26 (GMT)
fredl:
aus new york
- spider-tr043.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, May 06, 2001 at 19:34:21 (GMT)
fredl:
aus new york
- spider-tr043.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, May 06, 2001 at 19:34:23 (GMT)
fredl:
sophia vohnbukimetschdu har?
- spider-wg034.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, May 06, 2001 at 20:56:45 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Wie geht es Alle? Excited about a planned Jonke treffen in KCMO on June 30th. My cousin, Pete Yonke, in Pensacola is planning it. Wish you could all come.
- A020-0846.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 00:54:19 (GMT)
Sophia:
Ich bin alascht in Minnesota uber ich kiem von Tschermoschnitz.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 00:54:54 (GMT)
Sophia:
Hi Margaret: I am very excited about your family reunion too. If you are serious about inviting other Gottscheers be sure and do some good public relations work via your news media. As I mentioned earlier when we, the GHGA held their annual meeting there we had a great turnout. Have fun and record all the happy moments and memories.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 01:11:05 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good evening, anyone on?
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:23:06 (GMT)
Christine:
Hi Dad! I'm on!
- pool-63.50.218.4.phnx.grid.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:25:08 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Christine, how are you?
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:26:22 (GMT)
Sophia:
Hi Everyone. Boy, I have had a tough time getting any messages. Is there a problem tonight? Glad to see Chicago and New Mexico checking in. Hope you are both doing well. Heavy, heavy rain here in Minnesota
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:28:33 (GMT)
Christine:
Gut, und Dir?
- pool-63.50.218.4.phnx.grid.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:29:00 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Sophia, please send us some of your rain, we need some.
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:31:12 (GMT)
Christine:
We had rain all day on Friday, and even snow! We really need it, though, with the fire season already starting here.
- pool-63.50.218.4.phnx.grid.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:32:24 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Christine, have not heard from you for a while. Did you know your mother is going into the hospital this week?
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:32:57 (GMT)
Christine:
Yes, is she still nervous?
- pool-63.50.218.4.phnx.grid.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:34:16 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Christine, not too bad. Did you go skiing when it snowed?
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:36:45 (GMT)
Christine:
No, but I wanted to! Colorado got some snow last week!
- pool-63.50.218.4.phnx.grid.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:38:42 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Yes I heard, I guess Colorado, Wyoming and Idaho had blizzard conditions. We had some 80 days,today it was in the 70, just right to work outside.
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:41:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Is anyone left on? The computer has been commandeered by individuals doing homework. Some nerve :)
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:44:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix and Ridy, thanks for the emails. Have not had time to go over them fully.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:44:54 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Welcome home Jim. Awful lonesome tonight. I thought there was a blackout tonight.
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:46:24 (GMT)
Sophia:
Glad to know that I am not the only one have a difficult time tonight. Lets keep trying for a little bit anyway.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:47:44 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Christine, are you still there?
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:49:48 (GMT)
Christine:
Ja, ich bin hier!
- pool-63.50.218.4.phnx.grid.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:51:00 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Christine, das ist aber tuechtig, dass Du mir auf Deutsch antwortest.
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:52:18 (GMT)
Christine:
Ha, ha! Ich muss es nicht vergessen! Wie kannst du Gottscheerish erinnern?
- pool-63.50.218.4.phnx.grid.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:54:38 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Christine, es geht nicht mehr so gut wie ich moechte. Zu Ostern have Ich mit Deinen Tanten (meine Schwestern) telephoniert und habe dann versucht zu sprechen. Beinahe waere mir die Zunge gebrochen.
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 02:57:57 (GMT)
Patricia:
Good evening everyone.
- ip38.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 03:01:41 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
A late good evening Patricia.
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 03:02:22 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Sop[hia, bischt due noech du, oeder bischt due schon sclufn gegean?
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 03:05:22 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
It certainly looks like everyone tucked in for tonight.
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 03:13:10 (GMT)
Christine:
Isn't it past your bedtime yet?
- pool-63.50.218.4.phnx.grid.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 03:13:45 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Christine, how did you know?
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 03:14:33 (GMT)
Christine:
The news should be over already there!
- pool-63.50.218.4.phnx.grid.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 03:15:03 (GMT)
Patricia:
Yes It is finally getting dark here so we are calling an end to the yard work today. Between the 3 days of high winds and the HUGE cottonwood tree that is "snowing" in my backyard it was quite the mess today.
- ip45.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 03:15:38 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
They are still on and I am not watching.
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 03:16:33 (GMT)
Christine:
It's probably all bad news anyways!
- pool-63.50.218.4.phnx.grid.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 03:19:32 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
You are probably right and all the newscasters think they are entertainers. I am tiring of their laughing and giggling.
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 03:22:17 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Well, I think I will say Good Night, I am starting yawning and my eyes are getting heavy. Hope to see you next week. Say Hi to Mike.
- 1Cust38.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 03:24:52 (GMT)
Christine:
Gute Nacht! Ich bin auch müde. Tschüss!
- pool-63.50.218.4.phnx.grid.net - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 03:26:05 (GMT)
Helmuth:
Hello everyone,
The Gottschee Bulletin Board and Kump/Staudacher site is now available as:
kt3l.com
Your existing links and bookmarks will still work.
(KT3L happens to be my amateur radio call letters)
Helmuth
- 170.201.180.68 - Monday, May 07, 2001 at 11:17:42 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Happy Mothers Day,
to all you wonderful Mothers.
- 1Cust90.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Sunday, May 13, 2001 at 08:27:09 (GMT)
Sophia:
Franz: What a nice thing to do. THANK YOU very much. I appreciate it. I also appreciated the beautiful photo of your Gottscheer home village. What a nice addition to my collection. I say DANKE vielmals.!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 00:55:30 (GMT)
Sophia:
Well, Illinois and Minnesota is raring to go this beautiful Sunday night. I will be anxiously looking for a report from Dr. Jim who visited Ellis Island yesterday. Hope it was a great experience. While I am at it, Toronto, greetings to you too. Hope you had a great weekend.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 00:57:21 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Happy Mother's Day to moms and grandmoms. Hope you had a super day.
- A010-0137.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 00:59:36 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Sophia, gerne getan, are there any names you might have recognized?
- 1Cust195.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:00:29 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Guten Abend, Ms. Jonke.
- 1Cust195.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:01:12 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Wes, are you on?. During the week one night I was playing with web sides and stumbled on Wes of Oregon who was looking for info on his Granmother who came from Komutzen. I advised him to join us tonight.
- 1Cust195.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:05:37 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
FRanz: I believe you live in the windy city. My cousin Annette Yonke lives there part-time and part-time on a farm at Orangeville, Ill.
- A010-0137.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:05:41 (GMT)
Sophia:
Hi Margaret. Hope you had a great Mother's Day. Hope that Wes will join us tonight and Franz, I must be tired. Don't recall any names with the photo. Will look at it again.
Your wife ok? There was mention of the fact that she was going into the hospital.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:08:11 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Sophia, thank you for asking, yes everything is fine, she had sinus polyps removed the fourth time.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:11:48 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Margaret, I used to live in the windy city and know it quite well. I now live in a suburb. Do you know were your cousin resides in Chicago?
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:13:46 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Sophia: Plans for our June, Yonke treffen moving along. Sort of looks like there won't be a very big crowd, but those that attend will have fun.
- A010-0137.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:14:33 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz: She lives on Lake Shore Drive and teaches part-time at the University Medical School branch.
- A010-0137.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:15:25 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Margaret, Lake Shore Drive is a nice place to live. Which University?
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:17:32 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz: Not sure. She is a Dr., but not a medical one. Never asked her which one. Sorry.
- A010-0137.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:18:47 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
We had a beautiful sunday, not a cloud in the sky and temp. inthe upp 60. Just right for Mothersday. How was the weather in KC and Lake Superior?
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:23:12 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz: KC was kind of warm. Weatherman says it will be 90 by Wednesday. We skipped spring--went right to summer. After our bitter winter, we'd better not complain.
- A010-0137.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:24:23 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Sophia: Sorry I will have to log off soon. Much to do. Larry still needs help with things after the carpel tunnel surgery on his right hand. AUf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- A010-0137.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:25:37 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
We had the last 3 adys the Iceman, some areas had frost last night. Does anyone recall the phrase ICEMAN?
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:26:37 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good Night, Margaret.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:27:30 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Anyone joining in? Will check back later.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:28:32 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Guten Abend, everybody! Hope all you mothers had a lovely Muttertag. My take on that topic is that it's Mother's Day 365 days of the year for those of us lucky enough to have children.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:28:47 (GMT)
Sophia:
Margaret, take care. Enjoy a great week.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:29:54 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Har schau nue a bag, Ridy ischt a dua. Hoscht due a schean muettrtog gahot?
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:30:42 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Hi Trixie! How is the fishing up in Minnesota?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:30:46 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone, and Happy Mothers Day. Mine was vey nice.
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:31:38 (GMT)
Sophia:
Hi Ridy. Great philosophy on Mother's Day. I always felt if it is only special 1 day out of the year, wow, how sad. Hope you are doing excellent Ridy.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:31:38 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Franz - I'm too tired to write in Gottscheerisch today! I negotiated a deal whereby I was allowed to cook for everybody today, and now I'm working my way through the mess in the kitchen. Two more load to go in the dishwasher. But it was lovely to have the kids home. I keep them tied firmly to my apron strings.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:33:02 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hello Marilu, whats up in Colorado? Glad to hear you had a nice Mothersday.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:33:16 (GMT)
Sophia:
Opening of fishing season at Waukenabo Lake was excellent. We had 1 son, 1 daughter and four grandsons enjoying it. They did well, caught some beauties and loved being here. The weather was perfect and I am exhausted but enjoyed it all.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:34:02 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, I thought Canada does not allow slavery. Didn't you tell them today is mothersday? Or don't you have Mothersday in Canada?
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:35:27 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Franz..we had a beautiful day. Not too hot, not too cool. Last week the mountains had lots of snow, and we had lots of rain. But we needed it..and I am watering lawn today.
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:36:21 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Marilu, it's going to be two years since I visited Co., and missed it. Hope I will make it this summer.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:38:28 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
The only time I ever went fishing was in Puschendorf, in Untersteiermark. The Save river had flooded, and suddenly all these huge fish were in the swollen brook near our house. My father took Alfons and me out on one of those small rowboats, but my fishing career ended when I managed to fall into the water, trying to pet one of the fish. My father was not amused, because none of us could swim, but it was relatively shallow water, and he managed to drag me back into the boat.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:38:41 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Franz are you coming to Denver?
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:40:04 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Hi Sophia,
What are you up to? I haven't done much on Gottscheer research for the last several months. Working on my Mother's side of the family which is French. The films just became available a few months ago. Mother's Day always makes me want to be able to hug my Mom, it doesn't seem she has been gone for almost 12 years. Hope you had a wonderful Mother's Day.
- proxy-1392.public.svc.webtv.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:40:18 (GMT)
Sophia:
Hi Marilu. Received a reply to my inquiry about the Perschels in Bistritz from Mr. Rom. He said: There were no Peschels in Bistrict only Petsche. Now I am wondering if he might be to young to remember your family. What do you think?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:40:26 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Oh, but we do have Mother's Day in Canada. But I don't like going out for dinner on busy days like today, and since both my kids had been out of the country this past week, and we were also celebrating my daughter's birthday, I got my way and they came here. Trust me, the presents I got were worth it!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:40:42 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Marilu, I would like to but I am not shure if I will be able to make it.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:41:08 (GMT)
Sophia:
Ridy, tell us, please tell us about the presents!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:41:42 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Sophia it is possible there are none left in Bistriz today.
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:42:36 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, as long as you enjoyed it, it's OK with me.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:43:19 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Caroline went shopping at Tiffany's when she was in New York and Christopher actually managed to find a few lovely things in France. He's the ultimate non-shopper while we call Caroline our little Imelda!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:43:58 (GMT)
Sophia:
Hi John. Good to hear from you. I, too, think of my mother every day and still get pretty emotional on Mother's Day. Maria was home, we got to talking about Oma and sure enough the tears were plentiful. It's tough loosing a mom. It has been 12 years for us too. Good luck on your French genealogy. Greet your beautiful family.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:45:27 (GMT)
Sophia:
Ridy, you have so many cute stories to tell. Can't wait to read your book. Come to think of it, Brandon, our 9 year old grandson got so excited putting on a big shiner and he, too, fell into the ice cold water. It was funny!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:47:19 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
This is my first Mothers Day without my Mom and it sure is a difficult feeling.
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:47:30 (GMT)
Sophia:
Marilu: Thank you for sharing. I agree, it's tough.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:48:40 (GMT)
Sophia:
Calling Dr. Jim. You don't suppose he decided to stay at Ellis Island, do you?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:49:28 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ther was a ship anchored at Ellis Island bound for Europe, Dr. Jim couldn,t resist and boarded. Bon Voyage.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:51:26 (GMT)
Sophia:
Question to you all: Has anybody spent any time on the new Ellis Island Web site? How did you like it and how long did you have to wait? I found information on my grandfather that we never had before. It was exciting and have enjoyed it. Sometimes I truly enjoy quality time and at others I just have to walk away from it. It is definitely something that tests your patience and as a rule, it is something that's pretty tough for most Gottscheers.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:51:48 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I thought I saw Dr. Jim on line earlier today.
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:52:00 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Is somebody sick? What's all this Dr. stuff?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:53:03 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have been on the Ellis Island site many times, and have not had much luck. 3 people I really wanted to find, are no where to be found.
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:53:40 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes we are being rather formal tonite....lolol
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:54:22 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Sophia, try at 2AM, it,s easier. I could not find my Grandfathers record. I understand there were other Ports of Entry as well, depending were the ship sailed from.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:54:29 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Sophia,
Are you going to be in Denver this year? I hope to come, but not at all sure yet. If I can get the funds together I may make it on Saturday. I may stay with my Aunt and Uncle in Loveland and just commute back and forth.
- proxy-1396.public.svc.webtv.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:54:56 (GMT)
Sophia:
Franz, just great about Dr. Jim. You are funny and I needed a good laugh. Thanks.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:55:28 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I haven't had any luck. With a name like Högler which is sometimes spelled Hogler and at other times Hoegler, I've been kicked off every time before I got to first base.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:56:19 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Sophia,
I've been on the website, but have not found much or it has timed out on me. Have you been doing it late at night or when have you searched on it. I've disappointed that it has been so slow and it has been very hard to get information off of it because it kicks you off because of to many people.
- proxy-1391.public.svc.webtv.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:57:19 (GMT)
Sophia:
John: As of now both Maria and I will be in Denver. Have made all arrangements but will have to see how things are here at home with Clint.
Franz: Remember the Ellis Island site only covers 1892 to 1924, I think.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:57:38 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have tried spelling my names every way I can think of. I have spelled Peschel 20 different ways and still can't find the one I am looking for.
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:58:31 (GMT)
Carolyn S. Cecil:
Hello everyone! Urska, the apple trees and lilacs are in full bloom here also in Illinois. Farmers are planting corn already. Looking for information on Maria Simec b. 18 Sept
- cca86.ccaonline.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:58:52 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
The Peschel I am looking for is supposed to have come in 1895.
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:59:27 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Sophia, yes I am aware of it, however that is the timeperiod my Grandfather came, not only once but twice.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 01:59:35 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Oh, that's too funny! that message from Carolyn S. Cecil keeps coming up every so often, and if I recall correctly, the first time I saw it was in the fall. . . .wonder what the problem is?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:00:13 (GMT)
John Herbst III:
Sophia,
Is Clint doing poorly? I hope everything is all right with him. We are making a trip to Wyoming to visit family in August and we will make several trips for reunions in Idaho and probably a funeral in Idaho. Linda has an Uncle who has cancer and isn't expected to live much longer.
- proxy-1391.public.svc.webtv.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:01:55 (GMT)
Sophia:
John, it would really be great to see you in Denver. Clint's Parkinsons has become serious. But, we have to remember that we have been doing battle with it for 25 years. He now requires fulltime caregiving. I turned out to be a darn good nurse too. Enjoy doing it and considering everything, we are still very lucky as we still have each other.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:06:36 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Sophia, you are admirable.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:07:50 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
Okay, you guys. Here I am. The boat left without me. Happy Mother's Day to all.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:08:40 (GMT)
Sophia:
I have to tell you Dr. Jim that line about the boat by Franz was a classic! I really enjoyed it.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:09:51 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Come on Dr. Jim, admit you took the Concord with the flat tire back.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:10:02 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Hi Jim! Thanks for the Mother's Day wishes. . . .
now, about this pain I have. . . .
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:10:18 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
Ridy, I located all the Hoglers and Hoeglers on the site. They are in the Excel file waiting for the rest of their cousins to show up. Ellis Island was very nice. The day was beautiful. There is a room about the transport ships and they have little postcards for quite a few. The SS Mount Clinton was in there and that was the one I think my grandfather come over on in 1922. The Kaiser Wilhelm the Great was there as well.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:11:09 (GMT)
Sophia:
Yes, Ridy, get a free consultation. Dr. Jim has been off enjoying New York. We don't want his brain to slow down. Ridy, tell him about your pain.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:11:39 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim, you are really getting picked on...thats what happens when you show up late!!!! lol
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:12:30 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Even though it's Mothersday, no free advice Dr. Jim. Ridy slaved all day, now she askes for your help.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:12:33 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
I can't leave you alone for a minute. Now Ridy, about that pain..... . It is caused by excessive cooking on Mother's Day.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:12:56 (GMT)
Sophia:
Dr. Jim. You didn't buy any of the Kaiser Wilhelm the Great, did you? I think that is the one my grandfather took.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:13:16 (GMT)
Sophia:
Love this great sense of humor. Way to go! I LOVE IT.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:14:17 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
Saturday on Ellis was great. I took some pictures and tried to get a picture of the small postcard. It will be interesting to see how it comes out. A great place to visit.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:14:26 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
No, the postcards were not for sale. They were behind a glass enclosement. I guess they use to have these cards made up for advertisement purposes. I did try to take the Kaiser so I will see how it comes out.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:15:38 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, any ghosts around there?
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:15:58 (GMT)
Sophia:
I know that Ellis Island will be opening a gift shop soon. Will be interesting to see what merchandise they will carry. One more thought; for those of you who get kicked off the Ellis Island site be sure and click Refresh at the top of the screen. I am stunned at how much quality time I have had, not always but more and more.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:16:19 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi all,
Had a great Mother's day.
Wanted to say that I have tried a few times with the ellis site but keep timing out so not able to get much.
what I do get, I try to make copies of. (copy, cut, paste)then I can look at it any time I want too.
I will keep my eyes out for those Peschels
- ashdial-71.suite224.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:17:33 (GMT)
Sophia:
Franz: How old is your daughter again, the one in NM? I know she has an interest in Gottschee. Do you think she would ever want to be active? I mean, we need to recruit and motivate our children. They are our future!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:18:19 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Hi Holly!
Wonderful to have you in the chat room! How goes the battle?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:18:44 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Holly and thanks. But I don't think the Katherine Peschel I am looking for is going to turn up. I have ordered microfilms and cannot find her either.
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:18:55 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
No ghosts. I would like to go exploring about the unrestored part of the island but it is all cordoned off. The gift shop is open but I believe it mostly glitzy stuff and trinkets. I agree with Ridy's son ---- I am a dedicated nonshopper. I did not even go in but I can ask Linda what it was like.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:19:20 (GMT)
Sophia:
Hi Holly. Good to have you with us tonight.Hope you are both doing as good as can be.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:20:10 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hmm,
I am learning to cook without meat or chemicals. everything freshly made. Rudy is taking it very well and we are not missing steaks and other slow moving animals
- ashdial-71.suite224.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:20:22 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
Holly, we are getting together a database of Gottscheer surnames. There are over 1300 names in the EXCEL file and Sophia has sent me quite a few more.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:20:36 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
The love for nonshopping must be a gene of the Gottscheer male. Suits me just fine.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:21:14 (GMT)
Sophia:
Question for anyone: My family landed in New York in April of 1952. I understand it was at some pier. Does anyone know where this may be?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:21:42 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Actually, Jim, I think Christopher and you would have a lot in common! I think he visited every vinyard within driving distance. Since he was limited in the amount he could bring back, he had to keep drinking it. . . . My father must have been up there saying: that's my boy!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:22:04 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, I only have a few names to add so far, but will send them to you.
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:22:35 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
Where is this excel file and how do I add to it or view it?
I saw your posting re: said project and hope you had alot of response
- ashdial-71.suite224.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:22:58 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Holly - my sisters will be very unhappy to hear that you are taking up cooking! They thought they had finally found a soulmate!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:23:21 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
No meat or chemicals. As long as there is pizza, I would be okay. Holly, is pizza okay? Ridy, tell Christopher that I will be available to carry his bags as long as I can taste test the wines.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:24:09 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ridy,
lol. I can't believe it either. but I did find a restaurant in Cleveland that cooks vegetarian, etc, so hopefully we can get there. Also our health food store has some homemade frozen lasagna and tamale pie that is wonderful
- ashdial-71.suite224.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:25:54 (GMT)
Sophia:
This is probably a very stupid question and forgive me Holly but share with us what a typical meal is?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:25:56 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
Holly, do you have EXCEL? If you do, I can send you what I have. If you have the urge to look for a particular surname, send me an email. Sophia may have already done it but I may not have had the time to input it. I have a list of those that have been downloaded as well as those that are currently being worked on.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:26:15 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
it has to be a whole wheat pizza with fresh vegs and soy cheese. no pepperoni or saugage.
- ashdial-71.suite224.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:26:58 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Holly apparently I don't know what is going on. Why are you cooking vegetarian?
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:27:53 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Some day I will ask you guys how you go about your technical stuff on this research.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:28:03 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Bad enough not being in perfect health without having to eat soy cheese without pepperoni!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:29:16 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
yes I have excel. Never used it yet but I have it.
Sophie, the other night I made a shepard's pie.
another night I made walnut burgers with soy mayo homemade buns etc. another night I made a brazil nut casserole.
Everything has tasted great so far but I did have a real bust on biscuits. definately not my forte
- ashdial-71.suite224.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:30:11 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
Holly, I will be right over. Sounds good to me. Good luck with the menu.
Franz, have you had a chance to check out the Ellis Island site? Sophia has sent me the Mausser information but it would be helpful if you could download any variants like Mauser.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:30:19 (GMT)
arnold:
Happy Mother's day Ridy.
I was busy with a photo letter to Miriam (Eloise's sister). I needed to get her up to date about Cara.
Microsoft Word can be a pain in the neck, if you try to get fancy with inserting photos in a two column format.
It's time to start building the supper ... Cheers and Happy Mother's Day to all ... Arnold
- 1Cust97.tnt5.sea1.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:30:34 (GMT)
arnold:
Happy Mother's day Ridy.
I was busy with a photo letter to Miriam (Eloise's sister). I needed to get her up to date about Cara.
Microsoft Word can be a pain in the neck, if you try to get fancy with inserting photos in a two column format.
It's time to start building the supper ... Cheers and Happy Mother's Day to all ... Arnold
- 1Cust97.tnt5.sea1.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:31:23 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I just changed my mind about your menu choices, Holly. Walnut burgers and brazil nut casserole sound delicious!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:32:13 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Marilu,
Rudy has esophageal cancer. He is getting radiation but the chemo he had was not sucessful so this is the end of the line except for prayers and eating healthy.
- ashdial-71.suite224.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:32:48 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Dr. Jim, I tried the varient Mauser, there was one that could come close. I am trying to find out from my sisters in Austria if they know more about the dates.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:34:30 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
We are all pleasantly surprised how good everything tastes.
- ashdial-71.suite224.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:34:46 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Holly so sorry to hear that...well you definitely have my prayers!
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:34:54 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Holly, my prayers are yours too, sorry to hear that.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:38:10 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
Holly, the file is already in your email box as an attachment.
Everyone, I have a question for you to consider. The smaller and medium usage names are easy to handle but there are going to be some names with thousands of names such as Koenig or Wolf. How do we handle them? To download them all is the most accurate with weeding out those that we know aren't from Gottschee but it will take a lot of time. Maybe we can break up the larger names into smaller groups for people to work on.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:38:23 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
thanks Marilu,
Alois and Marion Bahoric are headed for Fatima and said they would say a pray too. Nice to be going to Spain and Portugal right now.
- ashdial-71.suite224.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:39:05 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
Holly, continued good luck with diet and, as always, good thoughts for you and Rudy.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:39:11 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Arnold is doing a great job getting pictures for our book, and he's just done a map showing the location of Gottschee and the area where we were resettled in Untersteiermark, plus Cilli and Marburg. I like good visuals and Arnold delivers them.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:39:34 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Thanks Franz,
with all those Gottscheer prayers, he can't lose.
- ashdial-71.suite224.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:40:43 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Thanks Jim,
Ridy, I think pictures add so much. especially that time period of "the move".
- ashdial-71.suite224.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:42:31 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, are you collecting photos for you book?
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:43:49 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Sophia sent me some photos of Bistriz, does anyone else have any??
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:45:39 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Sophia, regarding my daughters age, I am not shure if she would appreciate. You know how you ladies are about age.
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:46:02 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Yes, Franz ~ Arnold's mother kept a beautiful collection, as you can see from his web site, and my Mausser relatives have also been very co-operative in lending me what little they had.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:46:27 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, anything specific?
- 1Cust43.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:47:39 (GMT)
Sophia:
Dr. Jim. I agree, some of the names are huge. The thing that I am trying to figure out is this: Lets say the first 10 pages of a name like Fink (there are 2132 in total) is being researched; in order to get to page 11 through 20 one needs to go to page 1 and click next page until you get to 11. Is there a shortcut that I don't know about? Otherwise, wow, it is going to be tough process.
Holly, all of our prayers are with you both. Make every day a good day and enjoy the delicious tasting dishes.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:47:57 (GMT)
Sophia:
Franz, I understand. No problem. It's her interest that is important here.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:50:20 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Franz -
basically anything which shows activities in Gottschee. e.g., Burkhardt Otterstädt has given permission to use the photo of the women coming out of church at Easter, carrying baskets of blessed food.. . . I've written about Easter, and that photo illustrates it beautifully.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:51:46 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
thanks Sophia,
we take one day at a time.
Jim, I peeked at the list and didn't see ships listed on most entries. How about passenger list page #?
- ashdial-71.suite224.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:53:41 (GMT)
:
Ridy, I will see if I can be of help.
- 1Cust152.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:55:09 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
OOPS, I am not a ghost. Got bumped and neglected to re-enter my name.
- 1Cust152.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:56:51 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
Sophia, so far that is the only way to go about it. There may be a way to save a search. I think that means you can get back to where you left off without starting from the beginning. Will look into it further.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:57:47 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Franz, thanks!
I would gladly kick myself around the block if it would help -- a few years ago I was offered copies of all the pictures at the Gedenkstätte in Graz, but all I wanted was the photo of Kukendorf - I even declined a photo of Ebental! When I changed my mind a couple of years ago, it was too late - my cousin had returned them to Mr. Schemitsch - who has since died - and we have no idea who got the pictures. They're out there somewhere, and it's a priceless collection!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:58:42 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
Holly,
The ship information necessitates going to a whole other field and is not feasible to do from a time standpoint for a file that will turn out to be quite large. I am including it if someone contributes the information but our main goal is to let other Gottscheer researchers know who may be in the Ellis files. They can then look into specific individuals further.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 02:59:57 (GMT)
Sophia:
Dr. Jim. That would be an excellent way to do it. Please let us know what you learn.
To all of you GOOD NIGHT and have a great week. Time to call it a day. Thanks for a wonderful evening.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 03:00:14 (GMT)
Dr. Jim:
Everyone, time to go to sleep. Have a good week.
- spider-wq022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 03:00:57 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Good night, Trixie! It's been fun. . .
Franz - my e-mail address is ridy@home.com
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 03:01:39 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes it is getting late. Goodnight everyone..
- spider-tr081.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 03:02:08 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Thanks Jim,
for that clarification. It will make it easier to pass the info along.
It's bedtime for me. take care everyone, it was great talking to you, all.
- ashdial-71.suite224.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 03:02:18 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Gute Nacht, Herr Doktor, and good night everyone else. . .
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 03:02:36 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, I visited the Grazer Gedenkstaette in 1977, took some pictures, have to ask my dearest where they might be, will also ask my sisters if they have any and make copies for me. I hope I can contribute.
- 1Cust152.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 03:03:11 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good Night, Good Friends.
- 1Cust152.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 03:04:50 (GMT)
Gerhard Samide:
Grüß Dich Ridy,
habe wegen Renovierungsarbeiten Deine Nachricht vom 1.5. 2001 erst heute gelesen.
Es freut mich, daß Du für mich recherchiert hast und Jim vielleicht etwas über meine Ahnen in seinen Unterlagen findet.
Mein Urgroßvater, Johann Samide war mit Maria, geborene Hutter, verheiratet und hat in Schalkendorf gewohnt.
Ich weis zwar einiges über den verbleib der Geschwister meines Großvaters, die nach dem Tod ihrer Mutter (Maria Samide) von der Krain weggingen, da ihr Vater wieder eine Frau hatte (ob verheiratet ?????).
Mich würde interessieren ob es aus dieser Verbindung Kinder gibt? aber auch ob es aus der Familie Hutter jemanden gibt der etwas weis.
Mir ist klar, dass das nach solanger Zeit sehr schwierig ist.
Meine e-Mail- Adresse: g.samide@utanet.at
Für Deine Mühe herzlichen Dank
Gerhard
- olinz-4829.utaonline.at - Monday, May 14, 2001 at 19:18:45 (GMT)
Carolyn S. Cecil:
Hello everyone! Urska, the apple trees and lilacs are in full bloom here also in Illinois. Farmers are planting corn already. Looking for information on Maria Simec b. 18 Sept
- cca65.ccaonline.com - Tuesday, May 15, 2001 at 01:10:08 (GMT)
Heinrich Stalzer:
Dr Tramposch and I are trying to understand the origins of a certain class of Gottscheer names; namely, those which end in ...itsch. One hypothesis has it that this spelling was forced on the Gottscheers, and is a perversion of the original German spelling. But, it applies only to a miniscule portion, 3.4%, of the names.
A list of Gottscheer Familien Namen lists 320 different names, of these 320, 11 or 3.4% of them, end in ..itsch.
And of these 11, the following three, Jakliè, Stoniè, and Tomiè, are all very common in Slovenia today (ref TELEKOM).
Any thought on the origin, or origins, of the Gottscher names with the suffix .....itsch?
Naturally, the TELEKOM lisitngs use the È è šumnik, or caron, and not the tsch consonants. Thus, the example, Jakliè.
- 1Cust164.tnt55.nyc3.da.uu.net - Saturday, May 19, 2001 at 12:24:58 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
Henry - good question.
The first marker of the beginning of the settling of Kocevje is the appointment in 1339 of a chaplain to the newly built chapel in the settlement of Mooswald. This chapel was an extension of the parish of Ribnica. Petschauer estimates that the village of Mooswald was established in the early 1330, a time when the settlement of the forest started. Petschauer states that the name Gottschee was derived from Kocevje or Hocevje, a Slovene name.
- spider-ti072.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, May 19, 2001 at 17:15:16 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
Henry (cont'd)
The settlement of lower Carniola,(Krain)in which the Kocevje forest was located, started long before 1300. (Ribnica celebrated its first millennium in 989 AD. It was a festive occasion and I was there.
Lower Carniola (outside the Kocevje forest) was sparcely populated around the turn of the millennium by mostly Slovene who arrived there in the 6th century. Settlements were "fleshed out" with settlers from "further north" with names that are very similar to the "Gottscheer" names of today. These settlers were linguistically rapidly absorbed in the Slovene villages. Spelling did not matter since most people only learned to read and write after the Universal Education Act of Maria Theresia in 1774 (?)
- spider-ti072.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, May 19, 2001 at 17:25:52 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
Henry (con'd)
The Kocevje forest on the other hand was empty. When settlers arrived after 1330 to develop the empty land that no one wanted up to that time, there were no "others" to absorb them. Therefore, they maintained their "identity" and lateron when the parish priests started records, their names were spelled the German way.
My Slovene grandmothers name was Sbasnig. (The s has a hook on top). I traced her line (name) back to 1615 so far. Her ancestry lived in Ribnica, now over 1000 years old.
- spider-ti072.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, May 19, 2001 at 17:34:47 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
Correction in "Henry", cont'd:
(Ribnica celebrated its first millennium in 1989). It was established in 989 AD.
- spider-te041.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, May 20, 2001 at 12:50:23 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
Henry, more on your question of "Names".
Keep in mind that the "fleshing out" Lower Carniola (populated thinly with Slovene),was primarily with Germanic settlers from the North-West. (I am, at this point excluding the Kocevje forest). This took place around 1200 AD, +/- 300 years. Since no one knew how to read and write, the Germanic language brought in by the settlers was absorbed into the local Slovene dialect. This is one reason why the Slovene language of today has so many Germanic derivatives. Names were written only in Latin, which makes no distinction between German or Slovene phonetics.
- spider-te022.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, May 20, 2001 at 18:49:20 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
More, cont'd:
When the Kocevje forest was opened for settlement around 1330 AD, new waves of Germanic settlers arrived. Since the land was to be had for nothing, no doubt many of the offspring's of those who settled among the Slovene also moved into the forest, bringing their phonetic (or Latin) names with them. They also melted into the new surroundings including their linguistics.
- spider-te022.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, May 20, 2001 at 18:54:23 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
"More", cont'd;
The point is, there was a large and continuous movement into Lower Carniola (including the Kocevje forest)from the North-West including immigrants of Germanic as well as Slovene origin. The intermingling of names from a phonetic perspectiveindicates this fact. Gottscheer "historians" don't like to admit this because they wish to preserve their "perception" of the Germanic character of the Gottscheer. If you study history without this "German Bias" you get a more realistic perspective.
- spider-te022.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, May 20, 2001 at 19:01:34 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
"More", end:
Names began to be written in German and Slovene after the Universal Education Act of Maria Theresia strted to take effect. Basic schooling was in the "local" language (Slovene or German). However, the French occupation (1809-1814) had a profound impact on the politics and culture of the area. This aroused the Slovene to a national self-awarenes and the formalization of the Slovene language. As a result, the poet and philologist Jernej Kopitar published the first grammar of the Slovene language in 1808. Thus the Caniolians living in predominately Slovene areas took the phonetics of their name into Slovene. The Caniolians living in Kocevje took theirs into German. The stop of the peaceful integration of the people in Lower Carniola had begun.
- spider-te022.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, May 20, 2001 at 19:17:26 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Very lonesome tonight.
- 1Cust173.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:20:23 (GMT)
Sophia:
Good Evening Chicago from a very rainy Minnesota. We needed it. Once again was lucky. Had just finished mowing our 4 acre lawn when the first drops fell. How is everything with you? By the way, nice handwriting.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:22:51 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Hi Franz
Wie geht's? Wie steht's? Never figured out what that's supposed to mean actually -
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:26:03 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good Evening rainy Minnesota, Just got in too finishing all the flowerpots etc., etc. Little tired, otherwise not bad.
- 1Cust203.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:26:37 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Hi Trix! Hope you were using a tractor!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:26:52 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Ridy, es geht und es steht und wie ist es bei Dir?
- 1Cust203.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:28:15 (GMT)
Sophia:
Yes Ridy, we have a red rider Snapper mower and today it worked like a charm. Then I do all the trimming by a hand mower. Always looks great when done.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:30:56 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
It's been a very quiet and productive weekend here. Those Canadians who are so inclined celebrate Queen Victoria's birthday today, but for the rest of us, we just enjoy the first long weekend of the summer.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:31:02 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, are you for hire?
- 1Cust203.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:31:47 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I love the idea of a 4 acre lawn, Trix, but definitely not the work which comes with it. I have worked very hard not to learn how to mow the lawn we have, and now, thank goodness, I'm too old to try.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:32:51 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Why is Ridy always mentioning age? What is old?
- 1Cust203.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:34:55 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Trust me, Dahlink, I'm only speaking of me, myself, and I -- definitely not you!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:35:41 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hatschuu!
- 1Cust203.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:36:43 (GMT)
Sophia:
I tell you what Ridy, it has got to be my Gottscheer blood. I remember my mother always telling me no what you do always do it well and enjoy it. Most of the time that is the case with me but I do miss my husband's previous help. But, I have him sitting outside while I go like hell on the mower. So far, so good but I do worry at times about the future. But, like the old saying goes: ONE DAY AT A TIME! Ridy I feel the same way about cleaning fish as you do about mowing the lawn. So we are both smart.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:37:09 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Excuse me, I had to sneeze.
- 1Cust203.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:37:28 (GMT)
Sophia:
Franz: GESUNDHEIT!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:38:18 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Fish? You clean fish? Yikes! I'm doing well when I get them out of the freezer at the Supermarket!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:38:36 (GMT)
Sophia:
Question for all of you: Anybody going to Gottschee this year? When and where? I know of four parties that are either there now or just returned. Its amazing how popular that is becoming.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:39:35 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, how about wildflowers instead of hey? Have to leave, but will be baaaack.
- 1Cust203.tnt1.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:39:39 (GMT)
Sophia:
Ridy: The only fish I still clean are trout. But look at it this way, not everyone can write like you can or sneeze like Franz can. I heard him all the way to Waukenabo lake.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:40:44 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Since nobody asked, I'm going to tell you anyway! Ray is up to the last 100 pages of editing our book and I can now definitely see the end of the road. Will be looking for some quotes next week to get copies xeroxed. Trix -- how many copies do you think? I think about 100 -- Ray thinks more like 250.... any idea what sort of interest there might be (outside our own families . . .)
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:42:19 (GMT)
Sophia:
I think that Edeltraud Krauland Kneier had 200 copies of her book. They are selling. I am going to be diplomatic and say 150. But, you may know a lot of people in your circle of friends. Come to think of it I will stick with 150.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:44:20 (GMT)
Sophia:
Ridy, anytime you are ready for money let me know. Remember I really need mine autographed by you.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:46:20 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
That sounds like a good figure to me. I don't want to be stuck with any of them - that would be depressing. Thanks goodness for the fact that I have a lot of relatives!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:46:31 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I think Louise's gift will cover the cost of your copy, Trix!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:47:10 (GMT)
Sophia:
Does anybody know anything about the translation of the book about the Gottscheer Umsiedlung? Will it happen?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:47:25 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Which book is that?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:48:06 (GMT)
Sophia:
It is the book written by Mr. Frensing of Germany. I understand it contains the official records about the Umsiedlung. I think it came out in 1970 and is printed in German.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:49:51 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Never saw it.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 01:51:41 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everybody
- spider-ntc-td032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:10:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening to everyone.
- spider-ti041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:11:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, was that the book that was partly excerpted by John Tschinkl?
- spider-ti041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:12:21 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Marilu
- spider-ti041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:12:35 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim
- spider-ntc-td032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:13:37 (GMT)
:
Dr. Jim: Could be - in fact, it probably is.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:14:00 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, I think the end is in sight for my Peschel History also.
- spider-ntc-td032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:14:36 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Marilu. Congratulations to you too on your book. What an undertaking for both you and Ridy. Will be gooood reading, I am sure.
So what's new with everbody?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:17:22 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
You probably feel like I do, Marilu! There is light at the end of the tunnel! Yipeee!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:17:43 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Put me down for copies of both books. I am almost finished with Edeltraud Krauland Kneier's book. Very good reading. That was an unbelievable time period. Gottscheer stubborness probably accounted for quite a few making it through a terrible time.
- spider-ti041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:18:00 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, yes I do. Every time I would think I was done, I would find something more I would have to track down.
- spider-ntc-td032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:18:51 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Still plugging through more names. Took a break from gardening but did buy five more astilbes for the backyard. I like that plant --- interesting leaf, interesting flower, and a perennial. I like the perennial part the best. That way I don't have to plant them again.
- spider-ti041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:19:43 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I only did this history on our line. There was another line from our house in Bistriz, but I figured that would only muddy the waters for my family. Later I will probably do that line also, as I have most of the data already.
- spider-ntc-td032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:21:02 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: I am so pleased that you enjoyed her book. She had a very nice style and easy reading. I can't help but reflect on my own life during that time period. I usually have very good recall on events, conversations, places etc. but boy I must have blocked out most of that experience. Even in Untersteiermark I don't recall any of the neighbor's names except for my uncle, aunt and grandmother who lived close to us. My children keep telling me: Mom, just keep thinking and focusing. It is in there somewhere. I find this very odd indeed. Any thoughts by anybody on that?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:21:18 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I've been getting the same lecture from my daughter for a couple of months now and it goes: "Mom, you're finished. You promised that's all you were going to say on that topic. Practice writing The End" - so I'm taking her advice.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:21:51 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy: Now that you are going to have all this free time how can we benefit from it? Just kiddin'.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:24:31 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
What free time????? Maybe Ridy will have, but I have 3 more families to work on!!!
- spider-ntc-td032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:25:42 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, where in Untersteiermark did you end up?
- 1Cust226.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:25:53 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Trix -- blocking out events must have been a favorite trick of ours during those years. I am very lucky to have so many cousins and five aunts still living who help to jog my memory. Even with all of that, there are some events about which I remember nothing. Sometimes, with just a bit of prodding, it all does comes back and then I realize why I blocked it out in the first place.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:26:00 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Oh, sorry , Good Evening. Where are my manners?
- 1Cust226.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:27:04 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
My 'free' time will benefit my house! I have found out that I am the world's untidiest person when I have things to do which I enjoy more! Who knows what I'll find under any one of those piles stacked up around my rooms!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:27:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix,
Do you know of anybody who was in the same area as you? Perhaps all it would take is a name here and there to get it going. Or maybe, it is like Edeltraud said --- you were often too busy trying to survive to establish a great deal of relationships.
- spider-ti041.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:28:45 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, my house has suffered greatly also. And it will be awhile before I start looking for the dust bunnies!!!
- spider-ntc-td032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:29:23 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz: We ended up in Deckmansdorf by Königsberg. Ridy: thanks for that good logical thinking. I needed that. Gosh, how I wish I would have taken the time to sit down with my mother and ask all the thousands questions that I now enjoy getting the answers to. Darn it anyway. So, if any of you are as lucky as Ridy and you haven't done your homework PLEASE do it NOW.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:29:41 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Trix - do you know the Slovenian names of Deckmansdorf and Königsberg? It took me forever to find out the Slovenian names of Puschendorf and Zirkle, but I finally have them now.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:32:13 (GMT)
Trix:
Here we go again. Anybody know of anybody that came to America aboard the USNS Gen. Muir? There is a great web site dedicated to that ship and its passengers. If you know of anyone please let me know.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:32:37 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy, I do: Deckmansdorf is Dekmanca; Königsberg is Bistica ob Sotli. Got them down firm. Also am in contact with the daughter of the house where we lived. I have never met this one, Angelika, but met her mother, father and sister. That was a great reunion way back in August of 1984. I need to return and visit her too.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:35:09 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Franz - where were you in Untersteiermark? Or was that before your time?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:35:15 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, bad memories about Koenigsberg. Had my first Tooth pulled by a Dentist, only after my mother was not succsessful. We settled first in Satteldorf, then Decna Sela. After a visit by the partisans my father asked for a Village where there was a Garrison stationed. From Decna Sela we moved to Arnau untill the tried escape to Austria.
- 1Cust226.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:35:16 (GMT)
Trix:
Sorry, it is Bistrica (forgot the r).
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:36:11 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I've been thinking lately that it would have been nice to meet the people whose house we lived in all those many years ago -- but I'm not planning any more trips over there . . .
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:37:45 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
How nicely you put that, Franz - after a visit by the partisans! Now that is one memory which is fresh and clear in my mind and I've written all about it.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:39:45 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz: I have a great photo of Königsberg. It was part of th packet of photos that I found at the Archive in Koblenz, Germany. Do you remember much about the village? Ja, I can just imagine having a tooth pulled then. Dental care must have been zero for us. Do you agree? I do not remember going to a dentist until 1946 after we arrived in Altfinkenstein. Still remember Dr. Staudacher, Faak am See by Villach. He was a medical doctor but practiced dentisty on the side. He started drilling, I started reacting and he started slapping. Never got slapped again. Once I got to America and had my first job I had mega work done on my teeth. To the tune of like almost $3,000.00. That was a lot of money. Made up my mind to teach my children to go to the dentist every 6 months and they still do it. Am I ever glad! Those memories were not happy ones.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:41:11 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, you experienced it too?
- 1Cust226.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:41:22 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Oh yes Franz - we experienced that. After that, we spent our days in Puschendorf and had to go to sleep in Zirkle every night. Not what you'd call a normal childhood!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:43:39 (GMT)
Trix:
Yes, Ridy, I remember the visits by the Partisans too. Those are events that are very clear including stripping all the blankets off our bed and taking all the food, not to mention the 2 additional visits and taking the cattle from the barn. Perhaps it was theirs to take to begin with. We were just glad they did not hurt us.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:45:17 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, the only thing that sticks in my mind about Koenigsberg is the Dentist and I think the street there was uphill, or was it my fright? Yup, Dental care was not importent. I camped twice at Faakersee.
- 1Cust226.tnt4.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:47:09 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
We did escape with our lives, Trix. But not all of our people did. The usually murdered the men guarding the villages they were plundering.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:47:31 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Marilu and Jim, are we boring you with our childhood memories?
- 1Cust53.tnt3.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:51:07 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz: You are right Königsberg was uphill or downhill. How about you knowing the Faaker See area too. Picture yourself at the lake looking south. You see the Karawanken Mountain range (the border with Slovenia). At the base were three houses. Baumgartnerhof, a restaurant and farm complex; to the west, about ½ mile another house where the workers lived, including us and one more Bauernhof, Familie Truppe. The view from there to the valley below, Villach, the Wörthersee, the Hohen Tauern mountains absolutely beautiful. The hike from Baumgartnernof, at the base of the Karanken to the top, or border, took 3 hours. I did it quite often. In fact even in 1984 on our first visit my husband, daughter Maria and I had a lunch packed and we spent one full day hiking to the top, enjoy the beauty of the land and hiking back. Needless to say we were almost dead by the time bedtime came. But what memories!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:52:11 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
No, No I am enjoying every bit of it. I have no such memories from my family.
- spider-ntc-td032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:52:41 (GMT)
Trix:
Ok, Ok, time out. Marilu and Dr. Jim YOUR TURNS.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:54:05 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
As a matter of fact, there are no stories in our family at all, we did not even know where they came from until I discovered it.
- spider-ntc-td032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:54:10 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have learned much about history doing this research.
- spider-ntc-td032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:55:33 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, Summer of 1955 three of my friends and myself biked from Kapfenberg to the Woertersee and camped for a week, three of us started to swim across the lake, one bailed out two of us came across. Beautiful memories. Life was simple but we enjoyed it.
- 1Cust53.tnt3.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 02:58:00 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Marilu - I may have lived through this history, but I have found that I am finally learning about all aspects of it by checking out various events on the Internet. I make a point of checking different countries for their version of the facts - the Library of Congress is a good source, of course, and so is the BBC. There is a lot of stuff coming online from various German and Austrian sources, and Yugoslavian sources have English translations as well. That is actually why it's taken me so long to write -- I get sidetracked very easily. Learning has never been so much fun before!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 03:00:01 (GMT)
Trix:
Did anyone know Mr. Ernst Stalzer born in Nesseltal who died recently in Munich? I received 2 photos of his grave today. Talk about beautiful floral arrangements. Just lovely. He will truly be missed by the Gottscheers in Europe in particular.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 03:00:49 (GMT)
Trix:
One more thing that I would like to share, perhaps I did last week. Can't remember - senior moments, you know. But Austria and Slovenia signed a pretty important cultural agreement on May 1. It will give the German minority in Slovenia equal rights which, I understand, they did not have up to now. Although it has taken years to get to this point progress is being made all the time.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 03:03:24 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, do you have some of those things bookmarked so you can send them to me? I sure would appreciate it.
- spider-ntc-td032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 03:04:12 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Just noticed the time! No wonder I'm schläfrig. Gute Nacht everybody, and see you next week. It's been fun as usual.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 03:04:29 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good Night and a pleasant week everyone, see you next sunday.
- 1Cust53.tnt3.barrington.il.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 03:06:35 (GMT)
Trix:
Same here. Good night nice people and have a good week.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 03:07:49 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night everyone
- spider-ntc-td032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 03:08:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
No, I was fascinated by the memories. Horrible memories and yet you and your families were able to get through them. There nothing for me to add and I did not want to interject any comments because they would have added nothing. Thanks for sharing.
- spider-wg053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 12:54:50 (GMT)
Heinrich Stalzer:
DEAR TRIX GERMAN MINORITY RIGHTS IN SLOVENIA
Please try to explain what the lack of equal rights in Slovenia today is. I need to understand you. On the face of it, I totally disagree with your inference.
By the way, a cousin of mine, named Stross, is an officer in the Slovene army, recently finished his officer training on the use of American DOD equipment, at a school for officers in Colorado. I know that he feels totally Slovenian, to the marrow of his bone. To ask him what rights he was missing would confuse him.
Another cousin of mine, named Kleindinst, was just recently promoted from inspector to director, for airport security, at the Ljubljana airport.
An office supervisor, city of Ljubljana, civil service, has a totaly German name. In effect, civil servants in the Ljubljana city government report to a German! This subordinate is my wife's cousin's husband! He never even mentioned that his boss at the city government job was German, I only learned of it after I asked for his boss's name!
What do you understand to date, let me try to help. I have lots of cousins in Slovenia, some of known German roots.
I might add that the past director of all law enforcement in Slovenia grew up in the adjacent village from me, and we met the last time I wass there in 1993. He is the equivalent of the director of the FBI. I trust him totaly, and his cousin lives in San Diego, CA, where he visited recently.
Ask and get more rights than are now offered, and you might change an amicable relationship of mutual respect, into one of mutual suspicion, or even disdain.
I had no idea what prejudice was until I left Slovenia, and learned about it in Austria! Arriving in Graz was like hitting a brick wall, I was totaly unprepeardd to be thought of as a foreigner. No such emotions were ever experienced by me in Slovenia. S
- 2Cust119.tnt28.nyc3.da.uu.net - Monday, May 21, 2001 at 20:07:09 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Just returned from San Francisco. Accidentally drove past a Slovenian-American club house. Surprised me. Sorry I was not on Sunday night. I missed all of you. Bleib gesund.
- A020-0678.KSCY.splitrock.net - Tuesday, May 22, 2001 at 02:55:02 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
Reply to Henry Stalzer
Don't be overly upset over the statments made by "Trix" regarding a "German Minority" in Slovenia. There is no such "Minority"; only an "Ethnic Group". Also, she has no clue about the rights of individuals or groups in Slovenia a country whose Constitution was based on ours, nor about the real facts regarding the "Altsiedler". She, either as an individual or an officer of the GHGA, is only repeating the propaganda of the AG, the Arbeitsgemeinschaft in Klagenfurt. (The GHGA is now an AG member). The false information is distributed by the leaders of the AG in which the former Gottscheer Nazis, as "Honored Members" and "Cultural Advisers" are playing such a dominant role. Nor does she have a clue about the real content of the "Cultural Agreement" signed by Slovenia and Austria on April 30, 2001. Various countries have such cultural agreements. There is one between Slovenia and the USA which could have been used with great results as a link to the Altsiedler.
- spider-mtc-tg052.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, May 26, 2001 at 21:00:30 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
Reply ti Henry 2:
The text of the just signed Agreement talks only about an ethnic group of "German speaking Slovene citizens". Even the Austrian version contains only the term "deutschsprachige Volksgruppe", or loosely translated, a "group of German speaking People". Nowhere does it contain the term "German Minority", lobbied for so intensly by the AG and supported by Joerg Haider, the European pariah and leader of the FPO, the Austrian extreme right wing party, to whom the AG seems beholden. (Haider publicly proclaimed the SS as men of honor as was widely publicized in the press and also attends the Kulturwochen in Klagenfurt). The main theme of the AG was: "keep Slovenia out of the EU unless it grants "Minority Rights" tp the Altsiedler" (All of less than 100 out of 2,000,000, or 0.005% of the population of the State). This was recognized as an offensive demand everywhere in Europe and dealt with accordingly. Today, Slovenia is already an Associate Member of the EU and is about to join NATO. And everyone, except some Gottscheer Americans, knows the Slovene Constitution guarantees equal rights to all. Just like ours.
- spider-mtc-tg052.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, May 26, 2001 at 21:20:06 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
Reply to Henry 3:
The Altsiedler are those Gottscheer Slovene and their descendants who in 1941 resisted the pressure of the Gottscheer Nazis to resettle. They all suvived the War, proving wrong the claim of the AG, that we would have all been killed had we stayed. In the early 1990's they formed the "Altsiedler Verein" as an attempt to maintain some Gottscheer "culture". The AG got involved and started to dominate by insisting the Slovene goverment grant the group "Minority Rights". The members disagreed and many resigned. So did Ivan Jacklitsch, their founder and leader after being pressured and accused for not being "effective". Pressured by the AG, which contains the same former Nazis that these Altsiedler rejected in the first place. The AG then appointed Avgust Gril, as the "right man" in the right place". Gril is a more pliable subject (who also has his own personal profit agenda), and periodically attends, with Michitsch and other leaders of the AG, policy meetings with the former Nazis in Germany as was reported in the GZ.
- spider-mtc-tg052.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, May 26, 2001 at 21:37:00 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
Repy to Henry 4:
When the Slovene press recently reported in great detail the connection between Gril and these former Nazis, including the SS officer Lampeter and the Leader of the Gottscheer Hitler Jugend, Richard Lackner, the majoriity of the remaining membership started to bolt, throwing Gril into frenzy. The clear message was, we really want nothing to do with these former Nazis, now as then.
The Altsiedler might have suceeded in maintaining some of their and our heritage. A friendly Slovene State and a friendly Slovene neighborhood as well as independent support from abroad could have made this possible. This, however, can not be, given the devisive and ridiculous demands emanating from the atrophied heads of the former Nazis, once the enemies of the State and its people.
- spider-mtc-tg052.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, May 26, 2001 at 21:49:44 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
Reply to Henry 5:
The forseeable result is here: a) There is now a signed Cultural Agreement that defines the status of the Altsiedler as an "Ethnig Group". This is what they wanted originally. b) All European nations have, in fact, agreed with Slovenia about not caving in to the demands for "Minority Rights" demanded by outsiders for them. This is clear from the fact that Slovenia will shortly be a full member of the EU and NATO. c) The original Altsiedler did not want Minority Rights and started to leave the group. d) The remaining members are bolting, now that they are aware that their leader Gril has such intimate connections with the former Nazis. e) Gril has lost most of his friends within his family, his community, among his Slovene neighbors and the few he had within the State. He is a looser and finished.
- spider-mtc-tg052.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, May 26, 2001 at 22:03:50 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
Reeply to Henry 6, & end:
The sad part in all this is that the "Politics of Division" of the AG, as crafted by the former Nazis, is accelerating the disappearance of what is left of the former Gottscheer culture. The Altsiedler are dropping out. They prefer "Staatstreu" to "Volkstreu". (as do most of the Gottscheer and their offsprings everywhere). But it is the Altsiedler, who once again, are standing up to those servants of Hitler and their friends who betrayed our Gottscheer heritage to the Third Reich in 1941. Some of us others still do not have the courage or conviction to follow their lead.
- spider-mtc-tg052.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, May 26, 2001 at 22:18:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Dear Henry,
My family moved out of Gottschee in the early 1920s and have no "axe" to grind concerning any profit motive in the current situation in Slovenia. I, again, find Mr. Tschinkel's wording offensive and derogatory towards Trix. It appears that if you do not agree one hundred percent with his views, you are automatically a neoNazi or a mouthpiece for their views. Well meaning individuals need not agree on all things. I find Mr. Tschinkel's words to again be venomous and bordering on diatribe. He and some of the old leadership have more in common than I find comfortable. As far as the issue of minority rights is concerned, I have asked Mr. Tschinkel to tell me in an nonconfrontational manner what it is that both sides are seeking and why. He can not seem to distance himself enough to stand back and state the issues other than one side is being led around by the nose by exNazis and the other side is filled with benevolent individuals who never wanted to harm anyone.
- spider-wq044.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, May 27, 2001 at 20:40:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It is incredulous to think that all Gottscheers who stayed in Yugoslavia after the war survived. The mere statement is difficult to understand. Why would this small group of individuals all survive when there are documented instances of mass murders of fellow Slovenians by Tito's forces? Common sense (although not always correct) would seem to dictate that the Gottscheers remaining would have faired worse and not better. I find it heartening that some actually survived. I do agree with Mr. Tschinkel in that there seem to be very few ethnic Germans/German speaking individuals left in Slovenia. That is partly why I am puzzled about the venom being exhibited by both sides. Again, what is it that each side has to lose or gain by holding onto their positions?
- spider-wq044.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, May 27, 2001 at 20:48:15 (GMT)
Patricia:
Hello Jim I feel a sense of dejavu all over again did we not have this same pleasent conversation several weeks ago?? I also find the tone offensive as if it was not for some of the great people with the GHGA I would never have found the heritage I was looking for.
- ip192.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Sunday, May 27, 2001 at 22:49:50 (GMT)
Patricia:
Jim I recieved your message finally sorry that is my old e-mail address and I had not checked it for weeks. The new is ntvimage@earthlink.net I have missed the conversation the last few weeks due to medical crisis with my kids so here I am early this week determined not to miss out again.
- ip192.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Sunday, May 27, 2001 at 22:52:35 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Patricia.
Are you still here? Sent you an email. Hope all is well.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 00:24:54 (GMT)
Trix:
Greetings Jim and Patricia. Hope you are both enjoying a great Sunday. Sunshine finally returned to Minnesota after a week of rain and 4 inches of water. The rivers have risen again and the fields are flooded. It's been quite a week. I have some quality hours of respite yesterday and today as daughter Amy and her family have joined us for the weekend. Look forward to some good conversations tonight.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 00:52:11 (GMT)
Patricia:
Hi Jim I am back just outside working in my garden. The first chance in 3 weeks thanks to a rotten cottonwood tree that attacks me each spring
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 00:54:10 (GMT)
Patricia:
Hello Trix nice to hear from you
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 00:55:07 (GMT)
Jim :
Hello, Patricia and Trix. The day was middling wet but better than it has been. Needs to dry out before I can get some planting done.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 00:56:33 (GMT)
Jim :
Thank you again, Trix for the rain. It hasn't stopped for over ten days except for brief interludes
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 00:57:22 (GMT)
Patricia:
Hello Trix nice to hear from you
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 00:57:44 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Sorry I was not on last Sunday. Hope to catch up on all the news.
- A010-0631.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 00:59:11 (GMT)
Jim :
There is Gottscheer picnic next Sunday in NY. I just realized that no other East Coast Gottscheer frequents the chat room with any regularity. By the time this room gets rocking, I am in need of my beauty sleep.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:03:55 (GMT)
Jim :
Guten abend, Margaret. How are you doing?
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:04:17 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Hello from soggy Toronto! There's been a lot of thunder and lightening along with the rain today, and we've had quite enough of it now. How was California, Margaret?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:05:25 (GMT)
Jim :
Trix, some location questions ---- anything on a town named Ratje or Ratze. Visje --- may be in Hungary.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:05:43 (GMT)
Jim :
Hello, Ridy!! I see that Trix has sent the foul weather both north and south. I will be barbecuing tomorrow so I hope the weather is better.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:06:40 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Jim - I wonder if John Sorli still checks in. I think he's from New York.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:06:42 (GMT)
Patricia:
Jim just read your e-mail. The kids are better thanks for asking. My oldest started 4 week ago with strep that went into scarlet fever {who even gets that anymore I ask) I get her up and better after 9 days and the 4 year old starts with severe seasonal allergies, 3 trips to the doctor no better and then all night in the E.R. the first of the week as she went into severe allergic reaction we got there and everything is under control she now has 2 allergic shiners and a double ear-infection due to all the gunk in her head. Then right after that the 8 year old is sick again !!After which I for the first time in my life have athsma. Good old Sacramento the allergy capital ... Can you tell I am not a native I would not make good advertising for them HA Oh well at least I got outside a little today
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:07:08 (GMT)
Jim :
Ridy, are you going to have a party when the best seller is done? Keep up the good work.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:07:36 (GMT)
Jim :
Ridy, it has been a while for John. What do you think about the laptop at the Gottscheer picnic? Would it be a bit too much or might it get people interested in the family tree?
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:09:30 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Jim - I think I'll be flat out exhausted when it's done! It will be very soon, though. Christopher was going to burn the CD of it for me today, but because of the severe weather I told him not to come. Once that's done, I'll shout AMEN from the rooftops! Did a rough count of the number of copies we might need and I think 150 is being optimistic, Trixie. I don't think I have that many friends!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:10:45 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I think a laptop at the picnic is a wonderful idea! You need to hook up with one of the regulars so that you can get to meet the right people. I understand they get quite a good crowd. Never been there myself.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:12:37 (GMT)
Patricia:
Jim as to your other question Helen has supplied me now with my Fink, Perz, And Herbst family lines and I have charted it all out on a huge chart made copies for family members and am ready to start putting into a program waht do you suggest I have Family tree but do not know which is the best ie. user friendly versus capabilities. I have a niece who is willing to help with set-up and data entry and I have also asked her and her boyfriend to come up with suggestions for a personal site as well a any suggestions on the Ellis island idea.
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:12:49 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Sorry but I don't know the cities you asked about.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:13:56 (GMT)
Patricia:
Ridy if I might ask what all is your novel to cover??
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:14:31 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Delighted you asked, Patricia! Arnold Rom and I are writing about out childhood in Gottschee, the years we spent in Untersteiermark during the war, and our flight to Graz at the end of the war, plus my years in Graz before coming to Canada in 1948. We're also writing about some of the customs back in Gottschee. I'm fortunate that I still have five aunts, ranging from age 80 to 91, who are helping me get things straight. We have lots of wonderful photos of the old days in Gottschee!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:18:00 (GMT)
Jim :
Patricia, I use Family Tree Maker. I think it is the most popular of the programs. It is probably one of the better ones as well. There are other good ones out there as well. I know others have set up a site online. Although I am fairly good at most things with the computer, my 16 daughter would know more about setting up a site online.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:18:07 (GMT)
Patricia:
Ridy Please if you are taking orders put my name down I am fasinated by this new heritage of mine and have found very little out there in print,
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:20:48 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I'll be happy to put you down for a copy, Patricia! Would you please send me an e-mail at
ridy@home.com
with your mailing address, so that I can add you to the list.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:22:48 (GMT)
Patricia:
Thanks Jim I know what you mean about the kids and computers That is why I am hitting my niece up this summer when she is home from college. Also she is interested and fasinated almost as much as I am with this journey.
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:23:30 (GMT)
Patricia:
Ridy will do I am excited to see it when you are done.
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:24:32 (GMT)
Trix:
Would like to share something pretty exciting. Yesterday's mail brought me a copy of the handwritten manifest from the ship which brought my grandfather, Franz Stalzer, to America. The year was 1907. As I read across the document I learned that he did not come to St. Paul, Mn. but rather that his destination point was Peoria, Il. The reason? He had a brother there by the name of Conrad Stalzer. Being lucky and knowing some very capable people in Peoria I immediately contacted Sheila. She responded sending me the names, addresses and phone numbers of all the Stalzer. You can imagine what I did last night. Well, by the time I was done I connected with 3 second cousins. None of them know anything about Gottschee, in fact, never even heard of it. It has been quite a weekend. The frosting on the cake is that they want to learn all they can not only about the Stalzer siblings but also about Gottschee. YIPPEE! Thanks to everybody who has supported me in this great journey.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:25:39 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Trixie ~ you're giving me goosebumps! I'm always so excited when I find another relative I hadn't known before. No wonder you're elated!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:28:59 (GMT)
Patricia:
Jim
I am currently working on the last branch with Helen so far we have had little luck his name was Markovic and she feels he may be Slovenian. I never in a million years thought I would be this far so quickly though. I also had more blind luck the other night after looking for John Markovic for hours I called it quits and on a whim typed in my fathers name and found myself listed to my suprise. My fathers side was the same as my granmothers side with adoptions stopping the passing of heritage onto the next generation. So I was thrilled to find that a distant cousin has written a book and set up a great website on my paternal grandmothers side... I do not have to do it Yeah He has the line all the way back to the late 1500's
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:31:38 (GMT)
Jim :
Trix,
I went poking around for Illinois Stalzers and found an obit for the wife of Ken Stalzer. It has quite a few names in it. I will send you what I found in an email.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:33:49 (GMT)
Jim :
There were also two who went from Illinois to California. Anything in the family tree about that?
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:34:23 (GMT)
Patricia:
Trix Congratulations Helen mentioned this on the phone Friday. It is so wonderful to hold these thing in your hands and feel a connection is it not? I am so happy for you
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:34:29 (GMT)
Trix:
When I listen to Patricia sharing her journey I realize, once again, how lucky we are to have these wonderful opportunities, to work together for the preservation of our culture and family records. It's a great time to be alive and I for one enjoy all the challenges that have come my way. Life is short, it goes by quickly and I don't want to waste any time on frivilous stuff that can't be changed.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:36:37 (GMT)
Jim :
Patricia, you have lost me on that one. What is the surname on the site?
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:36:43 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Ken's son called me yesterday. He is very excited to learn more about the Stalzer side of his family. Would love a copy. Thanks.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:37:56 (GMT)
Jim :
Trix, which son was that? I could blend the information that you have just gotten with the file and send you a text file tree as an attachment. I think it is great that you have contacted new found cousins and established more family ties.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:44:44 (GMT)
Jim :
The internet has made sharing this information so much easier. I would still bet that the other Stalzer names from the same town are related in some way to your father and Conrad.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:45:36 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone Just got home from a weekend with the kids.
- spider-ntc-tb062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:46:20 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: It was Ken Stalzer that called from Peoria.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:47:30 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have made a connection with a branch of the Peschel family in Ely Minnesota.
- spider-ntc-tb062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:47:37 (GMT)
Patricia:
Jim this is a site on the other side of my family that can be reached through rootsweb the family name is Replogle I am hoping that by the time I finish the gottschee side my reatives will have done my fathers side which are Weigandt and Replogle Imagine germans on all sides and none of us speak a word or had any traditions passed on. It is such a gift to finally be learning some of these things. Helen is going to send me a recording of gottschee being spoken although I have no hope of learning it at this point I will treasure it.
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:48:09 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Marilu. Congratulations on your Ely connections. That is just about 150 miles from our home. Have been there many times. GHGA member Sue Zuriff, born Rom, grew up in Ely.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:49:00 (GMT)
Jim :
Hi, Marilu.
Anybody recognize Prevail or Prevale or Lopata as town names. Just going through the Ellis Island Blatnik names and keep hitting names that sound like I may have seen them before but I am not sure.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:49:54 (GMT)
Patricia:
Can anyone tell me what the folkart and traditional dress from gottschee was like?? Is there a good site to view any of it??
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:51:18 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix I will be in Minnesota this summer but don't think I will have time to drive to Ely while I am there. Wish I could tho
- spider-ntc-tb062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:51:36 (GMT)
Jim :
Marilu, is Ely near or the same as Illy. I am running across that name as well on the Ellis Island site.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:51:45 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim those names are not familiar to me.
- spider-ntc-tb062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:52:13 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I think there are Blatniks here in Canon City. I know I have seen that name before.
- spider-ntc-tb062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:52:53 (GMT)
Trix:
Patricia. You message about your German ancestors is hitting close to home. I am told that the current Wyant spelling was changed from its original Weygandt. They, too, came from Germany. The way I look at it there is only one letter that separates these two names. It couldn't be, could it?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:52:58 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim I have never heard of Illy before. Sure sounds enough like Ely tho.
- spider-ntc-tb062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:53:37 (GMT)
Jim :
Patricia, Still waiting for a breakthrough on my father's side. Pretty much German there as well. One branch is from Bavaria but I don't know about the others. Everytime I think I will spend some time on that side, something draws me back to the Gottscheer side.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:53:47 (GMT)
Patricia:
Also Helen told me that there was a Gottschee community in Ohio across the river from Wheeling West Virginia, does anyone know what it was??
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:54:15 (GMT)
Jim :
Patricia, you could try some of the links at the GHGA site. I think there is one that shows some of the dress. There is also a videotape available that will have a great deal of information in it.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:55:12 (GMT)
Jim :
There were Gottscheers in Wheeling and many towns in Ohio but I am not familiar with that particular one. I will take a peek at a map.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:56:24 (GMT)
Patricia:
Tix that would be amazing would it not?? I know that family history says that either my great or great great grandfather changed the original spelling. Would it not be amazing if we could be connected on to sides !!
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:58:13 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Patricia -
send me an e-mail and I'll e-mail you some photos of the traditional dress of Gottscheers
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:58:31 (GMT)
Patricia:
Jim thanks, it was supposed to be very close as they may have lived on one side but worked on the other side of the river. Could you e-mail me where to obtain the video ???
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:00:59 (GMT)
Trix:
Hey, what happened to Chicago Franz
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:01:34 (GMT)
Jim:
Trix or Ridy, I don't have the address for the video at the moment. Do you have it readily available? If not, I will poke around the mess.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:02:45 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Just woke up, Guten Abend meine Freunde.
- 1Cust182.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:03:46 (GMT)
Patricia:
Ridy I just did that. Thanks so much, I cannot wait to see them.
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:04:41 (GMT)
Patricia:
Good evening Franz
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:10:35 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Did I scare you all?
- 1Cust182.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:10:48 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Mr. Ernst Eppich, Gottscheer Relief Association
8436 267th Street
Floral Park, New York 11001
U. S. A.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:12:25 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Franz - no, you didn't scare us! But then, we didn't hear you snoring while you snoozed!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:14:05 (GMT)
Patricia:
Ridy Thank you I will send for ordering information
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:14:44 (GMT)
Jim:
Trix, do you know of anyone whom I might be able to touch base with at the Gottscheer Picnic? I have been totally out of the NY Loop and have not gone to any functions.
Franz, about time that you woke up. The Bulls weren't in the playoffs, were they?
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:15:47 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, the Bulls are full of it.
- 1Cust182.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:18:31 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Does anyone remember how much the video of Gottschee was? I've forgotten. $20 sounds about right. . .or am I thinking of something else?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:21:02 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Try Elfriede Stontisch in upstate New York. Check the membership director for her e-mail address.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:21:15 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, it was a small log, therefor the chainsaw didn't make much noice. In general, the entire house shakes.
- 1Cust182.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:21:37 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I think Elfriede's name comes up several times on the Bulletin board.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:22:10 (GMT)
Trix:
Your are right Dr. Jim. The video is $20.00.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:22:26 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Well, Franz, you wouldn't be a Gottscheer if you didn't snore! Dos geheret d'zu.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:23:24 (GMT)
Patricia:
Thanks Ridy, My youngest daughter snores like her father, I have been blaming allergies but....
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:27:07 (GMT)
Trix:
Good night one and all. It's been a busy weekend. Have a great week.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:28:48 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
You're welcome, Patricia! My kids blame it on their Welsh father!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:29:25 (GMT)
Jim:
No snoring on this side of the family. Thank goodness since we had six children and three adults in four rooms as a child. A snorer would have been most unwelcome.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:29:51 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
G'nite Trixie! Enjoy your time with Amy and her family.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:30:19 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz: Not quite ready to say good night, I guess. I am wondering if you connected with Wes Perkins, I think, whose grandmother, Veronika Mausser, I think was born in Komutzen?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:30:21 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, thanks fro the call. Didn't listen to the message till today. Wes and I don't seem to be related, his Mausser ancesrtry is from Russbach, Tschermoscnitze. I was hoping he would join us tonight. I told him there are smarter folks then myself on the Plauderzimmer.
- 1Cust182.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:30:59 (GMT)
Patricia:
Good night Trix. Ridy I just looked at the photots they are adorable.
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:31:49 (GMT)
Jim:
Goodnight, Trix. I think I will hang it up as well since we now have Franz to carry on. One last question before I go---- Krain, Carniola, Gottschee. How much overlap is there for these areas. Gottschee is part of Krain and Carniola. Are Krain and Carniola interchangable? How much more does Krain/Carniola encompass besides the Gottschee area?
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:32:01 (GMT)
Jim:
They were separate Veronicas as far as I can tell. Different parishes and different parents.
- spider-wq032.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:32:55 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night everyone. It has been a long weekend already, and we have tomorrow to go yet. I did not get much sleep last night so am ready to catch up tonite.
- spider-ntc-tb062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:33:21 (GMT)
Patricia:
Jim sleep well thanks for the help and conversation.
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:34:04 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Jim - I just got the same question from my sister. I'm not at all sure, but I think Carniola and Krain are the same thing. If not, Krain lies within Carniola and Gottschee lies within Krain. I must look that up some day -- or maybe there's somebody out there in cyberspace who could tell us the answer to that question.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:35:13 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Gütei Nocht, everybody -- I must try and catch some zzzzs as well.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:36:13 (GMT)
Patricia:
Good night Ridy and thanks again, I also nedd to go wind the little ones down.
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:37:15 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
If I remember right, Krain is the region of Slovenia Gottschee is in. Carniola I had not heard off in the earlier days.
- 1Cust182.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:39:10 (GMT)
Patricia:
I must be tired as well or in need of spell check this evening. To many lost hours of sleep with sick kids this week. Good evening to all and till next week Patricia
- ip221.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:40:10 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good Night friends, I hope you enjoy your cook-out tomorrow. Don't forget I'll be over.
- 1Cust182.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 02:40:39 (GMT)
Friedl:
JIM The Gottscheer Picnic is june th 3.th
- spider-tr084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 12:12:20 (GMT)
Ken Kollar grandson to Ernestine Hiris Herbst:
I plan on attending Picnic with my grandmother Ernestine Herbst she was born in Mooswald Gottscheer 12/8/20. hopoe to see some old cousins, My mothers name was Lillian
- spider-mtc-td032.proxy.aol.com - Tuesday, May 29, 2001 at 01:36:18 (GMT)
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- client232-99.gbo1.greensboro.intrex.net - Friday, June 01, 2001 at 17:32:02 (GMT)
Richard Isny:
Greetings Everyone!
I am not a Gottscheer but I do read the messages in the Plauderzimmer with great interest, usually the next day when the generator is working on the island. We are presently on one of the out islands of the Cooks. Perhaps I can contribute something small to the Plauderzimmer. Jim asked a question about Carniola and Krain. I hope that I can remember most of the facts:
The late Latin writers wrote about a Celtic tribe living in what is now Slovenia. They called them "Carni". The Franks speaking German moved into the area in the 5th century and called these people Chreine which soon became Kraine. The Slovenians then moved in during the 6th century and used most of the German word, coming up with Kranjino and later Kranjska for the area. The Carni must have intermarried with the Slovenians. At least they disappeared from history. The Austrians held the area from about 1350 until 1918 with short interludes during Napolean's time. Carniola/Krain extended at one time from Steiermark to the Istrian Peninsula, but more often the area what today is western Slovenia. Carniola and Krain are the same. Carniola must be the Anglicized word for the area. The Latin, I believe, is Carnica.
- client232-99.gbo1.greensboro.intrex.net - Friday, June 01, 2001 at 17:35:04 (GMT)
Richard Isny:
Continued:
Today, Slovenia is the most advanced of the South Slav countries. The people must be much like the Austrians and the South Germans except that they speak a Slavic language.
I just sent Sophia an e-mail of an article written by the prime minister. I would really like to visit Slovenia and the Gottschee area. End of history lesson.
I grew up in North Carolina at a time when it was infested with prejudice. I never wanted my boy, now 12 years old, to have this prejudice. Two years ago we spent the summer in New Zealand where he played with Maori children. Last summer he ran with the Aboriginal children in Australia and this summer he is with Polynesians in the Cooks. In two weeks he will again be with the Aboriginals in Aust. I believe this is the best way for him to appreciate other peoples' cultures. In front of me is a beautiful lagoon with white, almost pink sand. There is no commercialism. Bryan has not had his shoes on for a week.
After reading the messages in the Plauderzimmer, I feel as if I know most of you: Patricia, Margaret, Chicago Franz, Dr. Jim, always the gentleman, Sophia who found a 1907 ship's manifest YIPPEE! and then Ridy....Oh what humor!
Best Wishes to those very beautiful people in the Gottscheer Plauderzimmer!
- client232-99.gbo1.greensboro.intrex.net - Friday, June 01, 2001 at 17:50:47 (GMT)
Kristina Sajnic:
Jim, ich hab diese seite durch eine suchmaschine gefunden.
Vieleicht kannst du mir mehr über den namen SAJNIC verraten
e-mail: sonde111@freenet.de
- ffm2-t6-2.mcbone.net - Friday, June 01, 2001 at 22:49:26 (GMT)
ken kollar:
anyone have address to picnic june 3 in ny
- spider-tk051.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, June 02, 2001 at 02:23:36 (GMT)
Heinrich Stalzer:
SPORAZUM, KI VSEBUJE NESPORAZUM
UNDERSTANDING WHICH INCLUDES MISUNDERSTANDING
Zadržanost nekaterih znanstvenikov v zvezi s pravkar podpisanim kulturnim
sporazumom med Avstrijo in Slovenijo, oziroma sporazumom o sodelovanju med
državama na podrocju kulture, izobraževanja in znanosti, je vec kot ocitna.
Kot da so bile vse dosedanje strokovne analize, domace in tuje, srecanja in
opozorila, ki so jih pripravili zadnja leta, zaman. Že dolgo namrec
opozarjajo, da bi morala biti omemba Avstrijske državne pogodbe (nadalje ADP)
v takšnem dokumentu nujna, da ima za Slovenijo poseben pomen in da je ne bi
smeli narediti nerazpoznavno ter jo »skriti« kar tako v dikciji »mednarodni
pravni instrumenti«. Na tej tocki so se v dolgoletnih pripravah kulturnega
sporazuma najbolj razlikovala mnenja med Avstrijo in Slovenijo kot tudi
stališca glede vprašanja nemškogovorece skupnosti v Sloveniji.
Kaj sploh je ADP? Je »Pogodba o obnovi neodvisne in demokraticne Avstrije.«
Podpisana je bila na Dunaju 15. 5. 1955. Države pogodbenice so: ZSSR,
Združeno kraljestvo, ZDA in Francija na eni strani in Avstrija na drugi.
Avstralija, Brazilija, Ceškoslovaška, Mehika, Nova Zelandija, Poljska in
Jugoslavija so k pogodbi pristopile kasneje. Tri izmed podpisnic so po letu
1991 razpadle, med njimi tudi Jugoslavija. Slovenija prevzema nasledstvo ADP
po državi predhodnici.
Po ADP je Avstrija mednarodno zavezana, da zagotovi slovenski manjšini v
zveznih deželah Koroški in Štajerski (!) pravice, dolocene v 7. clenu
pogodbe, za Republiko Slovenijo kot neposredno avstrijsko sosedo pa je
pomembno tudi izpolnjevanje drugih obveznosti, izhajajocih iz ADP.
Omemba Avstrijske državne pogodbe je bila predvidena vse od priprav
kulturnega sporazuma%
- 1Cust29.tnt55.nyc3.da.uu.net - Saturday, June 02, 2001 at 16:58:00 (GMT)
FRIEDL:
HE PICNIC IS IN FRANKLYN SK. LI NY THE PLATDOUDSCH PARK. ON HEMSDET BLW FRSQ LI
- spider-tr052.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, June 02, 2001 at 19:21:22 (GMT)
FRIEDL:
HAMSTED TRP
- spider-tr052.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, June 02, 2001 at 19:24:29 (GMT)
Heinrich Stalzer:
Liebe Kritina Sajnic, re Sajnic (Šajniè)
Diesen Namem kann man in Slovenien heute finden, werde Ihnen kopie senden fon der SLO Telefon Buch
- 1Cust176.tnt55.nyc3.da.uu.net - Sunday, June 03, 2001 at 12:36:53 (GMT)
Sophia:
To all of you who are planning to attend the Gottscheer Picnic in New York today HAVE FUN AND ENJOY. Wish I could be there with you. We look forward to hearing all about it on tonight's Gottscheer Plauderzimmer sharing.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Sunday, June 03, 2001 at 13:17:09 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
O&D 1:
"Offensive and Derogatory", thunders Jim Heimann in defense of Trix. He finds my words to "again be venomous and bordering on diatribe". My words were that Trix has no clue about the politics of the Gottscheer Arbeitsgemeinschaft (AG) in Klagenfurt toward the State of Slovenia.
It appears, Jim Heimann has two skins, one thin the other thick, which he uses very selectively. The thin side reacts as shown above. The thick side, however, ignores comments made by a "well meaning" official of the GHGA, a member of the AG, about the evils of Slovenia. He does not find as slandering and irresponsible the claim by Trix that a "German Minority" in Slovenia "does not have equal rights as do other citizen of that State".
I did not expect praise for my claims that the information distributed by Tricks is false. (There is no "German Minority" in Slovenia. Further, all citizen of that State have equal rights under the law). Just as I don't expect praise from my "Landsmaenner" for telling the world about the origin of the corrosive politics of the AG toward Slovenia.
- spider-wl013.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, June 03, 2001 at 17:09:59 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
O&D 2:
My efforts to counter dissemination of false information brought me much more than being charged as "offensive and derogatory, venomous and bordering on diatribe". The chairman of the AG hurled at me, in one letter, 18 first class cursewords for proving false his distortions of Gottscheer historical facts. But then he is a criminal lawyer with an extensive vocabulary of such words. Actually, I was pleased since the reaction told me I was on the mark, then as I am today.
Jim's guideline appears to be that of another GHGA board member who lectured me; "One does not criticize fellow Gottscheer". The young Gottscheer Nazi leaders of the 1940's drove that Mantra home with force when wiser and older Gottscheer disagreed with their politics. For such disagreements, they were denounced as anti-fascists to the Italian occupier, allies of the Nazis, who shut them up with imprisonment and threats of resettlement to Sicily or Abessinia. I remember; I was there; unbiased historians have it on record. The fascist's are gone but not the denouncements and the Mantra is alive and survives among some Gottscheer of the 21st Century.
- spider-wl013.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, June 03, 2001 at 17:27:20 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
O&D 3:
Jim finds it "incredulous that all Gottscheer who stayed in Yugoslavia after the war survived". Not incredulous at all. They survived because they did not resettle and thereby rejected the Nazis for what they were; brutal occupiers and enemies of the State. Quite contrary to the fellow Slovene "mass murdered by Tito's forces" as described by Jim. These Slovene, known as Domobranci, had sworn allegiance to Hitler and jointly did battle with the occupier. Consequently, they were executed by the "liberators" as traitors of their State. The AG often makes reference to this tragedy, taking however, the predictable side.
Today, the still remaining Gottscheer Slovene are again rejecting what they do not want. [Excepting their leaders who lie to them as did the VGL leadership in 1940]. Rejecting "Minority Status", which they know will bring them only isolation and grief, is demanded for them by 'you know who'. But they are rejecting THEM now as they rejected THEM once before. I am pleased that I am being of help.
- spider-wl013.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, June 03, 2001 at 17:41:56 (GMT)
John Tschinkel:
O&D 4 (last)
There is little point in honoring Jim's request that I clarify the benefits (?) of Minority State. I have explained it several times already. How he chooses to interpret my explanation is his problem. I know it is futile to convince "believers". It is much more gratifying to know that others are listening, including the "Altsiedler".
PS: A better task for the AG. Demand "Minority Status" for the Gottscheer living in the USA. There are far more of us here than in Slovenia. And, if the US does not agree, lobby to have us kicked out of NATO.
- spider-wl013.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, June 03, 2001 at 17:51:33 (GMT)
Heinrich Stalzer:
John, I like the way you put that! Bravo!
SEGMENT OF YOU LAST POSTING, JUT AN HOUR AGO
PS: A better task for the AG. Demand "Minority Status" for the Gottscheer living in the USA. There are far more of us here than in Slovenia. And, if the US does not agree, lobby to have us kicked out of NATO.
- 1Cust126.tnt55.nyc3.da.uu.net - Sunday, June 03, 2001 at 18:18:43 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten abend. Wie geht es Alles? Mir geht es gut.
- A020-0703.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:01:33 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Richard: THank you for mentioning me in a most complimentary way. I hope you like our chat room. I'm envious of all the exotic places you have visited. Bleib gesund. Tschau
- A020-0703.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:07:39 (GMT)
Patricia:
Good evening Margaret
- ip32.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:12:35 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Hi Margaret!
Like you, I envy Richard his wonderful adventures. Had a good visit in Kitchener these past couple of days -- that's a 1½hour trip by car from Toronto (if you must stay within the speed limit!) but it was nice visiting family and getting some things clarified for me by my old aunts.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:13:16 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Heinrich Stalzer: My great-grandmother was Ursula Stalzer Jonke. SHe married Andreas Jonke from Kummerdorf, where my father was born. ARe we distant cousins? My oma was Rosalia Jonke, maiden and married name. Lichtenbach.
- A020-0703.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:14:10 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Heinrich Stalzer: My great-grandmother was Ursula Stalzer Jonke. SHe married Andreas Jonke from Kummerdorf, where my father was born. ARe we distant cousins? My oma was Rosalia Jonke, maiden and married name. Lichtenbach.
- A020-0703.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:14:37 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Hi Patricia!
Is everyone off the sick list in your household now? I do remember those days when the children came home with one thing after the other and I wondered if they would ever grow up and grow out of it all. Looking back now, I wonder where the time went so quickly.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:15:37 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Hi. Hope you had a super week. Much rain, thunderstorms, and wind in KCMO.
- A020-0703.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:16:35 (GMT)
ken kollar:
My great grandparents lived in Kitchner Helen and Joseph Koenig My grandmother Ernestine now lives in Ridgewood NY
- spider-mtc-td043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:17:43 (GMT)
Patricia:
Ridy Thanks for asking they are improving, this is the last week of school and I am looking forward to it.
- ip32.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:18:06 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Anybody here a NASCAR race fan?? Our new track opened with 2 races on Saturday. Everyone expecting tourist $ to fatten our economy in KCMO.
- A020-0703.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:18:38 (GMT)
ken kollar:
We went to the Gotchee picnic today. Anyone else attend
- spider-mtc-td043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:18:57 (GMT)
ken kollar:
We went to the Gotchee picnic today. Anyone else attend
- spider-mtc-td043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:19:10 (GMT)
ken kollar:
We went to the Gotchee picnic today. Anyone else attend
- spider-mtc-td043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:19:20 (GMT)
ken kollar:
We went to the Gotchee picnic today. Anyone else attend
- spider-mtc-td043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:19:24 (GMT)
ken kollar:
We went to the Gotchee picnic today. Anyone else attend
- spider-mtc-td043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:19:29 (GMT)
ken kollar:
We went to the Gotchee picnic today. Anyone else attend
- spider-mtc-td043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:19:32 (GMT)
ken kollar:
We went to the Gotchee picnic today. Anyone else attend
- spider-mtc-td043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:19:37 (GMT)
Patricia:
Ken I am on the west coast, I wish I could have been there, what was it like???
- ip32.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:20:13 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ken: Did you happen to hear who won the prizes at the picnic?? Who was elected Miss Gottscheer for 2001??
- A020-0703.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:20:23 (GMT)
ken:
Did not hear who won but there was only one nominee this year so no voting. The last time I went was about 20 years ago when I was a little boy, just really saw old relatives.The weather was nice no rain. Food and band were great
- spider-mtc-td043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:23:06 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Hello Ken!
I know Jim was planning to attend the Gottscheer picnic today. Was the weather OK? Was it a good crowd? When did your great-grandparents live in Kitchener?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:23:07 (GMT)
ken :
My great grandparents lived there after moving from Timmins I would say in the 1930's My great grandmother Helen passed away in 1982? My Great Grandfather passed away I beleive in 75
- spider-mtc-td043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:25:57 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
We came to Kitchener from Austria in 1948, and I just asked my sister, Elfie, who is visiting with me, and neither of us recall your great-grandparents, Ken. Did they live in Kitchener from the 1930s on?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:29:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening. I did go to the picnic and it was a very nice day. Weather held out. The band played well. Took some pictures. Had a krainerwurst, a beer or two, and a little strudel pastry with many, many calories.
- spider-mtc-tf073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:30:23 (GMT)
Sophia:
Greetings to all of you. Glad to know you are all doing well. Greetings to Richard in far, far away vacationland too. It is a beautiful day at Waukenabo so had to enjoy the patio and watching the ducks swim by.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:30:41 (GMT)
Patricia:
Good evening Jim and Sophia it sounds as if you both had wonderful days. Jim what was the attendance like at the picnic??
- ip32.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:32:52 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Sophia. Met John Krauland, John Gladitsch, Trudi Krauland Kneier, Robert Maichin, Joe Rom, Martha Hutter, her brother, Albert, and many others. I brought the laptop and they all took a peek at the files. I wonder if the GHGA should place a table at these get-to-gethers to promote genealogy.
- spider-mtc-tf073.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:35:42 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Wow, what a happy gatering tonight.
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:38:41 (GMT)
Sophia:
What a marvelous day you had Dr. Jim. Good for you. Your suggestion about the laptop is EXCELLENT indeed. Should be done not only at the picnic but also at the North American Gottscheer Treffen scheduled for Labor Day weekend in New York. I can just taste that Krainerwurst. Nummy! Glad you went and to meet so many nice people too. Gosh, I wish New York would not be so far away.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:39:07 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
OOPs, forgive my spelling.
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:39:41 (GMT)
ken :
Ridy, Yes they lived there until they passed away. They had three daughters Enerstine (my grandmother), Winnifred (Winnie) and Elizabeth (Betty)all with the name Konig. My Great Grandparents moved from Austria actually in the mid twenties, first to Timmins then to Kitchner. Definately during 30's the lived in Kitchner
- cache-ra09.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:39:52 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, did you bring some Krainers to share? I wouldn't mind to try one.
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:41:30 (GMT)
Sophia:
Good evening Chicago Franz. Hope the world is treating you well. Hi Patricia, Margaret, Toronto Ridy, Ken and others who may be getting ready to join us.
Ken - From where in Gottschee does your family hail?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:42:07 (GMT)
Ridy:
Ken - I'll have to ask my aunts to see if they knew them. Kitchener is not a great metropolis, after all, and most of the Gottscheers knew each other.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:42:47 (GMT)
Ken :
Sophia My grandmother Ernestine was born In Mosswald
- ool-18b99d4f.dyn.optonline.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:45:15 (GMT)
Ridy:
Is anyone else having problems with the server today or is it just me? I keep getting kicked off.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:52:20 (GMT)
Patricia:
Ridy it is not just you
- ip32.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:52:59 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Sophia, thanks I can not complain, how is it in your neck of the woods. I scanned the log and I am surprised about all the venom flowing again.
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:54:39 (GMT)
Patricia:
Ridy are you all done with your writing??
- ip32.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:54:56 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good evening everyone. It was a beautiful day in Colorado.
- spider-ntc-tc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:56:32 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am having trouble with the connection tonight as well.
- spider-wf074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:56:34 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, bua tueascht due mit deinr moschine, valeicht hoscht due vrgassn za schmirn.
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:56:36 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, connection problems in Colorado as well..since last nite actually.
- spider-ntc-tc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:57:40 (GMT)
Ridy:
Patricia -
I am 99% done- - picked up a few more names and photos in Kitchener while I was there these past couple of days, and I'll add that. Plus do some more corrections of typos, which my sister is finding, and then it will get run off. With luck I'll have some finished copies before the end of the month.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:58:11 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hey you guys, did you not pay your phone bills.
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:58:49 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, I am anxious to see your book...
- spider-ntc-tc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:58:54 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Franz, is that our problem..lolol
- spider-ntc-tc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:59:19 (GMT)
Patricia:
I am already living with power blackouts the servers had better leave me alone! ha
- ip32.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:59:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
A couple of the participants commented that they could understand Gottscheer speech but could not speak it. They got used to their parents speaking it but did not speak it themselves.
- spider-wf074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:59:33 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - ich hon gedenket dos ich hon vrgassen z zuhln
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 01:59:49 (GMT)
Patricia:
Ridy I am so happy for you what a huge accomplishment, and I think I am doing well when I answer a few letters these days!!
- ip32.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:01:04 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim -
Something I had verified by my aunts this past week was that there was a lot of variation within the Gottscheer dialect. One of them was having a lot of fun telling us how words were pronounced in different villages.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:02:20 (GMT)
Patricia:
Jim that is often the way with children of immigrants. My husband and his siblings speak very little japanese but understand there mom quite well when she is mad! ha
- ip32.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:03:09 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Marilu, I am begining to have second thoughts before I relocate to Colorado. You are not that close to California, are you?
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:03:28 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Franz! California is on the other side of the mountains a long way away....No power problems here..
- spider-ntc-tc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:04:44 (GMT)
Patricia:
Franz other than a few blackouts and utilities bills that are double its still a nice state!!
- ip32.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:05:07 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Marilu, thank God.
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:05:47 (GMT)
Ridy:
Patricia -- I know what you mean about children not speaking their parents language, but understanding it. Mine fall into that category, because they could never speak Gottscheerisch, but had no problem understanding my parents, especially when my parents didn't want them to understand what they were saying!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:06:08 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Of course, I guess if it gets bad enough in california it will affect all of us.
- spider-ntc-tc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:06:43 (GMT)
Ridy:
Never fear, Marilu and Franz -- the Canadians will ride to the rescue and supply you with our power needs. At a price, of course. And Yankee dollars, if you don't mind. Ours are only worth pennies, after all.
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:07:57 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
My grandparents spoke what my mother thought was German, but was probably Gottscheerisch, until the school board came to the house and told them they had to speak Enlgish so the kids would learn it.
- spider-ntc-tc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:08:28 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Patricia, I hope I didn't hurt your feelings.
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:08:36 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy...Thanks a lot!
- spider-ntc-tc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:09:11 (GMT)
Patricia:
Franz not at all I would not want to move here at this time either
- ip32.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:09:53 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Patricia, sorry too but I am partial to Colorado...
- spider-ntc-tc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:09:57 (GMT)
Ridy:
Don't mention it, Marilu! When Big Brother to the South tells us to jump, we only stop to ask how high!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:10:28 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, I had no idea that canadians had any power.
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:10:30 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lololololol
- spider-ntc-tc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:11:35 (GMT)
Patricia:
Ridy we have no money left it has all gone to the power companies already.
- ip32.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:11:57 (GMT)
Ridy:
Only took you a few years to become a true Yank, Franz!
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:12:09 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Marilu, are you going to be around at the weekend of July 21. I am coming to get my Cal. Red. Remember.
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:12:41 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes Franz I will be here then. Can't wait to meet you!
- spider-ntc-tc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:14:02 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, are you still with us?
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:14:04 (GMT)
Ridy:
And where has Trixie gone?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:15:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
yes, I am still in the room. jumping back and forth a little bit to a genealogy email.
- spider-wf074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:15:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix is probably downloading some more names for the Ellis Island file. It is up to 8990+ and growing.
- spider-wf074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:16:25 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim, I have been too busy with my Peschel stuff and finishing up my book to do any downloads, but it sounds like you are making great progress. I found some more shirt tail Peschel relatives this week.
- spider-ntc-tc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:18:18 (GMT)
Ridy:
I've just been reminded that I am neglecting my guest. . .maybe I can check back in later. If not, have a good week everybody, and don't forget the old advice to duck when the s--t hits the fan, as it seems to do on a regular basis in the Plauderzimmer lately. Maybe if we all just ignore it, it will go away. Or am I dreaming?
- 24.66.13.5 - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:18:39 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, are those all Gottscheer names?
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:19:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
There have been a lot of people helping ---- Trix, Holly, Joe Rom, Mary Ellen Cox, Mary Mazzoni, Elli Squires.Several others are also working on some names.
- spider-wf074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:20:04 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, you are right, ignoring it is the best.
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:20:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, I agree. Have a good night.
- spider-wf074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:20:54 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Does anyone know what happened to the Krockers?
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:23:05 (GMT)
Trix:
Still here.Taking a phone call here and one there. But am back and ready to read all this good conversation.
Ken, by the way I think Mooswald was the first village in Gottschee.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:24:07 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, I am showing interest in next years trip to Gottschee. Do you have any knowledge who has signed up for it as of now?
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:26:34 (GMT)
Ken:
Ridy If you are selling copies of your book that you put together from Kitchner, let me know, my grandmother and I would be interested.
- ool-18b99d4f.dyn.optonline.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:27:17 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz: I have had about 18 inquiries. Spent part of today finishing the preliminary draft of the brouchure. We should have the total package in place by the end of July at which time reservatins will be taken by Kollander Travel in Cleveland. I shall gladly add your name to the list and send you a brochure. Limit will be 40 participants. This gives us enough time to connect to all the villages, or remainds of villages for the members of the group. I hope it will work out for you to come along. I know you will enjoy it.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:30:51 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, I am looking forward to it, thank you.
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:33:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, send one my way as well as just email the information. Doubt I will make it but who knows. If I do come, you may need to send out patrols when I head off into the woods.
- spider-wf074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:34:01 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Dr. Jim, that would be great. I will make an extra effort. What a trip it would be.
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:35:36 (GMT)
Patricia:
Trix it would sure be great if you all could manage to put together a documentary video or pictorial I am sure that you could sell lots of copies to those of us who will not be able to go but would love to see pictures of the varius home-villages and or what remains.
- ip32.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:35:51 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Good Night and a pleasant week good Friends. Tomorrow comes around very quick an Hi Ho, Hi HO off to work we go.
- 1Cust96.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:43:03 (GMT)
Trix:
All I have to say is think DISCOVER GOTTSCHEE TOUR 2002 and plan accordingly. Check the calendar and mark the dates. June 12 to 26, 2002. USA to Frankfurt to Ljubljana. Great experience.
Patricia: good suggestion. I think we have a very good film of our first GHGA trip in June of 1996. I know I have four excellent videos of the June 1999 trip that need to be edited. Time. Where does it go? Will dig through my collection to see if I can find the 1996 one and send it on to you.
By the way Patricia, did you ever see the 1936 film of Gottschee by Father Trapp? It has been restored by the New York Gottscheer organization with added commentary. It is excellent and sells for $20.00. That might be a wonderful video for you too.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:43:56 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, good night to everyone from Colorado. It is summer and the grandkids are starting their visits so we will be busy!! Love it!
- spider-ntc-tc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:44:18 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, Patricia I have the video and have enjoyed it very much.
- spider-ntc-tc033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:45:17 (GMT)
Trix:
Time to call it a night at Waukenabo too. Great to chat with all of you. Have a good week everybody and think happy thoughts. Gute Nacht und schlaft gut!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:45:31 (GMT)
Patricia:
It was recommended last week and I intend to order it this month. I cannot wait to see it. Thanks to all for another wonderful evening, I am of to round up little ones and put them to bed. Good evening
- ip32.sacramento13.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:49:51 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night all.
- spider-wf074.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 04, 2001 at 02:50:54 (GMT)
Heinrich Stalzer:
Dear Helmuth
Am curious who you are, that is, are you by any chance the same Hemuth who knows Bridgit in Ridgewood, and Loughlin in Brooklyn?
- 1Cust3.tnt64.nyc3.da.uu.net - Saturday, June 09, 2001 at 11:08:06 (GMT)
Trix:
Just want to wish everyone who participates in or follows the discussions on the Gottscheer Plauderzimmer a great weekend. It is a beautiful day in Minnesota. The sun is shing, the wind is slightly blowing, the sky is blue and the fish are biting off the dock yet. It doesn't get much better than this. Enjoy. Will visit tomorrow night.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Saturday, June 09, 2001 at 14:12:41 (GMT)
friedl:
ich wahr letsesjahr in Minnesota auf urlaub mowl of america
- spider-tr021.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, June 09, 2001 at 16:31:34 (GMT)
Trix:
Grüß Dich Friedl. Wo wohnst Du zur Zeit? In New York? Und von woh, in Gottschee kommst Du? Ich bin von der Moschnitz und kam im April 1952 nach Amerika, un Du? Ich hoffe auf ein Schreiben. Mein e-mail ist: wyants@mlecmn.net Servus!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Saturday, June 09, 2001 at 18:10:27 (GMT)
Friedl:
Halo trix. ich vohne in QUENS NY ICHKOME VON RUSBACH .
- spider-th052.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, June 09, 2001 at 19:45:49 (GMT)
Trix:
Friedl: Danke. Von Russbach ha? Ich habe ein schömes Bild von diesem Dorf welches vor 1941 gemacht war. Auch war im Juni 1996 and Juni 1999 dort auf Besuch. Was ist Dein letzter Name? Hast Du vielleicht auch welche Bilder von unseren alten Heimat? Möchte sehr gerne Kopies haben. Ist es möglich? Bezahle sie gerne. Und wann bist Du nach Amerika gekommen? Hast Du umgesiedelt in 1941? Wohin?
Schreib doch ein bißchen mehr. Du wars bei der Gottscheer Piknik? Und wie war es?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Saturday, June 09, 2001 at 21:19:32 (GMT)
Fred Fink:
ich habe keine bilder vondaheim.ichwar 1997auf besuch inkarnten und dahn siendwir mit 4auto nach gottsche.ich bin 1951 nach america gekomen
- spider-mtc-tf023.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, June 09, 2001 at 22:45:06 (GMT)
Trix:
Bist Du vielleicht der Fink der ein guter Freund zu meinen Bruder Richard Spreitzer ist? Habe ich Dich vielleicht beim Gottscheer Treffen in Kitchener, in 1991 oder 1992 getroffen? Wo, in Kärnten hast Du gewohnt? Wir waren in Altfinkenstein bei Villach. Und noch eine Frage, auf welchen Schiff bist Du nach Amerika gekommen?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Saturday, June 09, 2001 at 23:49:53 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Good Sunday evening, cyberspace friends! Time to show up for a little chitchat!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:23:30 (GMT)
Trix:
Well Good Evening Toronto Ridy. Good to see you on board. I am all set for a little chitchat.Lets who will start and what the topic will be, shall we?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:25:13 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
You choose the topic, Trix. . . too late in the day for me to be doing much thinking!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:26:53 (GMT)
Trix:
Actually I am waiting for Chicago Franz, KC Margaret, Colorado Marilu, NJ Dr. Jim, NY Friedl and perhaps Cook Island Richard. This lady is pretty darn tired too. Busy weekend with grandchildren around. Weather was perfect though so cannot complain. So much enjoyed your message. Danke.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:29:04 (GMT)
Patricia:
Ridy and Trix hello and good evening.
- ip169.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:29:49 (GMT)
Ridy :
Welcome to the circle of friends, Patricia.
Was just trying to reach my friend in the Houston area again and am still getting the message that due to the flooding, telephone service has been disrupted. We keep saying: Why are we so lucky up here in Toronto? So far no severe weather problems - unless you count our endless winter followed by construction season.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:32:14 (GMT)
Patricia:
I am so excited this evening as I may have a lead on a possible "living relative" and she may be in my part of the state as well. If so That would give me a connection with Neulag#2 Maybe one day I will find connections on all 4 branches. I do not hope for much do I???
- ip169.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:34:23 (GMT)
Ridy :
Good luck on finding a new relative, Patricia. Too bad I can't let you share some of mine. . . my husband insists they number in the thousands! He's very nearly right on that.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:36:53 (GMT)
Trix:
Good for Patricia. Welcome to the Plauderzimmer. I hope you do make a connection. What a joy that will be.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:36:57 (GMT)
Ridy :
Trix - did your village have a fire department back in Gottschee? Ebental had one - complete with uniforms and all the other stuff that goes with being a volunteer fireman. But what I've been puzzling about is how they ever got to a fire before everything had turned to ashes.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:39:24 (GMT)
Patricia:
I do so hope, even though I have 3 branches done now I have not had much luck connecting with the living as yet. So far I have met one cousin who is very nice he has no interest in that side of the family as he puts it.
- ip169.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:40:55 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy: Yes, Tschermoschnitz had a huge fire department. I have a very old but still nice photo. Good question though as to how they ever got where needed.
Patricia: Regarding your cousin who "has no interest" - been there, done that. Could not believe it. But, he was very frank about it. Told me this may be important to you but I am a working man have have other things to do. That was about 8 years ago. Recently I found all the information on his grandfather, a brother to my grandfather, on the Ellis Island site and I am tempted to give it another try. Am trying to get up enough courage to make the call to Springfield, IL. I am chicken, I guess.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:53:19 (GMT)
Patricia:
We have had a beautiful weekend here, I ran to the farmers market and wow was everything nice. I bought to much for us to eat so I spent yesterday putting up jelly and jam
- ip169.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:54:55 (GMT)
Trix:
Question: Anyone planning to visit Gottschee this year? When and where?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:55:42 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Guten Abemd meine Damen, wie geht es, wie steht es?
- 1Cust248.tnt6.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:55:53 (GMT)
Ridy :
Groan! You sure are a Gottscheer Woman, Patricia! I gave up making jellies and jams a few centuries ago. Lucky for me, I have a Gottscheer friend who shares her bounty. . . .And I must remember to ask a couple of my cousins who wrote new lyrics to the song 'Pretty Woman' by substituting lyrics for "Gottscheer Woman"
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:58:25 (GMT)
Ridy :
'S geht, Franz. . . und Dir?
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:59:24 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, jam is very popular. I am in a jam all the time.
- 1Cust248.tnt6.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 01:59:59 (GMT)
Trix:
Patricia: Never made jellies or jams but I am known as the Apfelstrudel Queen of our county. The last one, donated to an auction, brought $135.00. I was pleased, believe me.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:00:41 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, zvil gurtn urbeit.
- 1Cust248.tnt6.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:01:13 (GMT)
Trix:
Funny, funny Franz. Brought a great laugh. Thank you. I needed it.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:01:38 (GMT)
Patricia:
Trix, mine was very nice and may even visit next time he is here. I have sent him copies of everything so he has the info if he wants it. His grandfather who was a half-brother to my grandmother ended his lif as an alcholic and not a nice one so he had no happy memories as did I when I started. The eerie part is his grandfather broke his back and leg in a fall down an elevator shaft and was not able to work after that { which between that and the pain probably drove him to drink} but his great-grandfather died can you guess.. also from falling down an elevator shaft. Possibly a career choice for my family to avoid!
- ip169.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:01:49 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello Everyone....we had a warm day in beautiful Canon City but it is cooling off now.
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:02:34 (GMT)
Trix:
Patricia: What a sad tale.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:03:26 (GMT)
Ridy :
Franz - quit complaining about too much garden work -- think of all the poor people who can't afford to have a garden. That's the sort of thing my mother used to say - so ignore that backache and keep digging.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:03:49 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz, come on, tell us all about your garden. What makes your garden grow?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:04:23 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, you are from Russbach, right. I translated two letters for a gentleman in Oregon whose Great Grandmother came from Russbach. His name is Wes Perkins.
- 1Cust248.tnt6.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:05:02 (GMT)
Patricia:
Trix Sounds good, we did not have many family recipes passed down so I am looking forward to trying some traditional food. I never canned till last year when my friend started me off and now I am enjoying trying new things.
- ip169.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:05:45 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz: Do you sell cars? If you do, I need to tell my cousin Milt in nearby Skokie to look you up and buy his next vehicle from a gardening Gottscheer. Never knew one before - but feels they are pretty special.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:05:57 (GMT)
Ridy :
There's funnydust in the air tonight! Some career choice, Patricia! I will try to remember that line and use it!
Hi Marilu!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:06:06 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Ridy I have been busy printing the picure pages for my book this afternoon..it will be a lengthy process...but I want them in color, and that cost to much at the print shop.
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:07:45 (GMT)
Trix:
I have been in touch with Wes and would love to see copies of those letters. Hope they are special. No, I am not from Russbach but rather the Tschermoschnitz area - very close to Russbach. I did visit the village in both 1996 and 1999.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:07:46 (GMT)
Trix:
Marilu: how much do you think a colored copy costs when done on a home scanner? I have often wondered and have asked at the local store but they had no clue.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:09:41 (GMT)
Ridy :
Marilu - they charge a dollar a page for colour at print shops here, but the University is giving me a 'deal' and will only charge 85 cents per page. Multiply that by 100 copies and pretty soon you are talking serious money. We've decided that most of the pages we had planned to run off in colour will look OK in black and white. Money talks.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:10:36 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix...I won't know for sure until I go thru a color cartridge printing....but I already know it is about 3 cents for black and white on my printer. The print shop charges a dollar a page for color here too.
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:12:24 (GMT)
Richard:
Greetings everyone! How is everyone in the Plauderzimmer this evening?
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:12:28 (GMT)
Patricia:
Marilu and Trix when scanning pictures be careful with the longevity most will fade dramatically within 5-10 years. I beleive epson has an archival quality ink that is guaranteed to last 75+ years.
- ip169.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:12:37 (GMT)
Richard:
It is finally real time for me in the Plauderzimmer, and not delayed for a day or two.
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:13:16 (GMT)
Ridy :
Hello Richard -- Richard who and from where, if I may ask?
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:13:51 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Patricia....I think everyones ink is getting better all the time.
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:14:18 (GMT)
Ridy :
Oh, that Richard! How did you manage that?
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:14:22 (GMT)
Richard:
I am a great admirer of the Plauderzimmer
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:14:33 (GMT)
Trix:
Richard: Greetings and welcome. How is life treating you and yours?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:15:00 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Welcome Richard.
- 2Cust8.tnt9.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:15:51 (GMT)
Richard:
It is quite nice right. I really would not want to change it. The Cooks are wonderful this afternoon
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:16:24 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello Richard
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:16:36 (GMT)
Trix:
Just to finish off the conversation on colored photos. At our local shop a page is $1.49 except when they run a special of 99cents per copy.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:16:36 (GMT)
Richard:
Hello Marilu
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:17:18 (GMT)
Patricia:
Hello Richard and welcome.
- ip169.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:17:28 (GMT)
Ridy :
Marilu -- as you know, I'm also going to photocopy the book rather than put another mortgage on the house and have it properly printed. As a result, I've had once 'cancellation' from a younger relative who decided if it's not worth having it printed it can't be worth reading. Needless to say, he's off my Christmas card list as well!!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:17:44 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I guess everyone will have to recopy pages in a few years if they start fading...
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:18:09 (GMT)
Trix:
Richard: I have scanned the web and have 3 different areas to read. Before I do that though I need to know which of the 15 islands you are enjoying? After, plan to go back and educate myself.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:18:30 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, those letters were written in the old "current" if you remember. It was a task, but it worked. They were from his Great Grandmother and Great Grandfather. Very touching, it could have been my parents wwriting me.
- 2Cust8.tnt9.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:19:16 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy I would cross him off my list as well.....thank God my relatives are just happy to have the information...they don't care how I print it!!!!
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:19:19 (GMT)
Patricia:
Ridy Send him some coal.
- ip169.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:19:55 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy, with relatives like that who needs enemies! A wonder if he ever wrote anything and realizes what goes into it. Your black and white photo book is totally acceptable to this Gottscheer gal in Mn.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:20:11 (GMT)
Richard:
I am on Rarotonga right now. Bryan in windsurfing in the lagoon just 100 feet from me.
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:20:18 (GMT)
Ridy :
Patricia - knowing him, he'd probably sit on the coal until it turned into a diamond!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:20:47 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz: Wes just got into researching his family roots, didn't he? Imagine the emotions and highs that he must feel? I need to drop him a note.
Hey, what about your garden? I need to know. What do you grow?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:22:07 (GMT)
Ridy :
I love the sound of that name - Rarotonga - somebody should write a song about it! What's the temperature there at this time of the year, Richard?
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:22:14 (GMT)
Patricia:
In that case just an empty box I would not want him to turn a profit on it.
- ip169.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:22:38 (GMT)
Richard:
Up until now Sophia, I have had to call home to get on the net which is not cheap. I finally found an access on the island. The Polynesians are very laid back people. They care less about earning money, at least most of them.... and they live longer than we do.
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:24:21 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix: Lettuce, beens, tomatoes, green peppers and gurken.
- 2Cust8.tnt9.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:25:24 (GMT)
Ridy :
Are you on a never-ending holiday Richard or doing some research?
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:25:29 (GMT)
Richard:
Well Riddy, it a little warmer here then in Toronto. It is about 85 F. degrees with a nice breeze.
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:26:01 (GMT)
Richard:
Sophia, I am presently spending my son's inheritance!
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:26:39 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Richard, I love that answer...
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:27:12 (GMT)
Ridy :
Bet your son doesn't mind helping you spend it!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:27:46 (GMT)
Richard:
Sophia, once a person can get here in the South Pacific, it is not too expensive. Lodging is only $30 to $40 per night. The Cooks are a dependency of New Zealand. The NZ dollar is worth only 41 cents US.
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:28:20 (GMT)
Patricia:
Richard I bet the memories you are making for him now will be the best inheritance
- ip169.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:28:52 (GMT)
Richard:
The most important point is that one does not need to go through live first class! We like to rub shoulders with the locals where we go.....as long as it is 1. safe and 2. clean.
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:29:35 (GMT)
Richard:
live=life
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:29:53 (GMT)
Trix:
Well, Richard, I don't believe it for a minute. I think it takes a pretty darn intellectual person to enjoy life and do the things that bring joy. I have a hunch that you have earned the right to holiday in the Cook Islands. If you can why not drop me a postcard? Would love to add it to my collection. Oh, yes, eat some of that marvelous fresh fruit for me too. Thanks.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:30:20 (GMT)
Richard:
Patricia, Bryan is 12 years old. A child learns most out of the school room. Bryan is learning how to live with other people. Therein is my investment!
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:31:17 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Richard, I think we all envy you!
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:31:18 (GMT)
Richard:
Ridy, yes he loves to spend money. But he also knows that I do not hear well all the time. It goes in one ear and out the other!
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:32:26 (GMT)
Richard:
Marilu, you should not envy me right now. Well, when the breeze stops, the mosquitoes start working. The breeze just stopped blowing!
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:33:58 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Oh..I do not like Mosquitoes...and will see enough of them in Minnesota in a couple of weeks. Fortunately we do not have many here in Canon City.
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:35:12 (GMT)
Richard:
Sophia, most of us as we come into our golden years!!! have saved some money. I plan to leave very little of it to Uncle Sam.
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:35:56 (GMT)
Trix:
Minnesota has a bumper crop of them this year. In addition the trees are covered with army worms. They tell us that this happens every 10 years. So far we have been lucky here at the house but I am watching.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:36:50 (GMT)
Richard:
The fruit is so fresh and almost free. Most of the Cook Islanders grow the fruit in their yards. I believe someone told me last week that the word snow does not appear in their native language. Cold weather is something they read about in the newspapers.
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:38:25 (GMT)
Trix:
Richard, be sure and save some for your next trip to Europe which will include a side trip to the former Gottscheer region of Slovenia. There you will enjoy some of the warmest hospitality, greatest food, beautiful scenery and warm friendship of the people. I will be glad to aid you in your planning.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:39:00 (GMT)
Richard:
As for money, it is far more fun to travel second class. One meets such interesting people!
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:39:31 (GMT)
Richard:
Well Sophia, I will be going back to Europe probably next year and Slovenia will probably be on the trip.
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:40:52 (GMT)
Trix:
Questins, questins, questions but know when you will join us live again. How long was the flight from? to where you are? That would be the biggest problem for me.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:40:53 (GMT)
Trix:
Sorry but I actually do know how to spell questions.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:41:34 (GMT)
Richard:
Sophia, I really wish that I could go back 125 years for a week or two as a visitor in Gottschee. It was indeed an island unto itself...a very beautiful island at that!
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:42:26 (GMT)
Richard:
Sophia, Air New Zealand has a flight once a week from LA. because it must service the islands with goods etc. NZ is responsible for the welfare of the Cook Islanders.
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:44:21 (GMT)
Richard:
Hawaii is very commercialized, VERY much and the prices are fantastic. The Cooks is very enjoyabe and the people treat others like family.
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:45:29 (GMT)
Trix:
Gottschee was indeed an island unto itself...we have quite a history to tell too. I am not sure everyone agrees with me but I think we are quite unique as to what happened to the Gottscheers. I am extremely proud of my heritage even if not always glamorous. My parents taught me great skills and I am grateful.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:46:45 (GMT)
Ridy :
Now that would be a place where your dollar would really stretch! For example, in the 1930s, an American dollar was worth 60 Dinar; a man, mowing hay all day, was paid 20 Dinar per day, if he was very good; or a seamstress (my aunt) was paid 20 Dinar for sewing a Dirnl dress. No wonder they found it hard to make ends meet! And all the visiting Americans were treated like millionaires.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:47:11 (GMT)
Richard:
We fly to Aitutaki tomorrow, a Cook Island 200 miles north and then spend the rest of the summer to the south. Well that is enough of talking about me. Now I want to hear or see some talking from ya"ll!
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:47:34 (GMT)
Richard:
Ridy, a millionaire still can be poor!! very poor!!
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:48:52 (GMT)
Richard:
Sophia, not everyone can be a Gottscheer. God selected only the best to be Gottscheers.
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:49:56 (GMT)
Ridy :
I'll take your word for that, Richard. . . .
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:50:10 (GMT)
Richard:
Well there is a line behind me for this computer. I'll have to leave. I do wish each one of you a very good week.
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:51:13 (GMT)
Richard:
Well Ridy, a few dollars certainly don't hurt!!
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:51:59 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
good night Richard
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:52:07 (GMT)
Richard:
Good day all!
- ts3p42.net.oyster.net.ck - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:52:23 (GMT)
Ridy :
Happy trails to you, Richard!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:53:07 (GMT)
Trix:
Richard, THANK YOU. I agree! We had a beautiful day here at Lake Waukenabo. Temperature about 75°, slight breeze fromt he north, blue sky decorated by white clouds. I spend a good part of the afternoon preparing for my annual meeting in Denver while enjoying the ducks and numerous fishing boats cruising by. Safe flight tomorrow and enjoy the journey Richard.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:53:17 (GMT)
Patricia:
Best wishes in your travels Richard
- ip169.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:53:26 (GMT)
Trix:
Time for the news. Best wishes to each and everyone of you. Thanks for sharing. Always good to chat. Franz, don't forget to water the garden - something I do regularly too.
Smile everyone and think happy thoughts.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:55:10 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: How was the basketball game? I can't think of another reason for missing tonight's Plauderzimmer. Hope your team won.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:56:38 (GMT)
Patricia:
Enjoy your evening I am off also to spend some time with the kiddies. Everyone take care until next week.
- ip169.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:58:10 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix I have a question about Denver...how fancy is the dinner on Saturday night?
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 02:58:39 (GMT)
Trix:
I never care about that. I always say: wear what you like and what makes you feel good. If that is a long dress, great. Just come.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 03:00:11 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
ok
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 03:00:38 (GMT)
Ridy :
Good night all and see you next week.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 03:02:34 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
good night everyone see you next week also
- spider-wi072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 11, 2001 at 03:03:12 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Happy Fathersday (evening)!
- 2Cust98.tnt6.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:08:08 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Happy Father's Day to you all. Very warm and sticky here in KCMO. Hope everyone is well tonight.
- A020-0788.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:15:39 (GMT)
Trix:
Good Evening Margaret and Franz. Good to see you aboard. Franz, I hope you had a great Father's Day and Margaret, I hope you had a good Sunday. It is beautiful here. In fact, turning cool. The dark clouds are moving slowly towards us and no doubt more rain. Have had 3 inches this week alone. But, it does make the lawn look beautiful, green and lush.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:25:40 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz: Are you and I the only ones logged on tonight? Everyone still entertaining Dad??
- A020-0788.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:25:57 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: I have missed your emails. My cousin, Pete Jonke, sent me the most wonderful set of Jonke marriage records--going back to 1740's!! I found oma, opa, and great grandparents marriage records. By the way, how do you say great grandma in Gottscheberish (?)
- A020-0788.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:28:00 (GMT)
Trix:
Question: Did we celebrate Father's Day in Gottschee? I know that Muttertag is a huge, huge celebration but frankly, I do not recall Vatertag at all.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:28:21 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Tris: Pete and brother, John, are going to Slovenia again in September? Have they contacted you? I will see him and lots of other Jonke June 30th, at the treffen.
- A020-0788.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:30:07 (GMT)
Trix:
Margaret: I am thinking it may be Urgroßmutter. I know that Großmutter is grandmother. Ridy and all other who know HELP.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:30:34 (GMT)
Patricia:
Hello all, A very hot fathers day here. Those bad weathermen are predicting 104 by Tuesday. I miss living alon the coast can you tell?
- ip251.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:31:35 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Patricia:
Where do you live? In the Mid-west??
- A020-0788.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:32:38 (GMT)
Trix:
Margaret: I have not heard from Pete recently and did not know they are going back. I was under the impression it was next year. Good for them. They had a marvelous time with Emil Kresse who is part Gottscheer and lives in Grafenfeld, near the City of Gottschee. He is the one that guided them last year. I think this is absolutely wonderful. Margaret, any chance you might join them? You would love it - I guarantee it.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:32:52 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello everyone!
We are still alive and well and living in Ohio! Our schedule is busy on weekends in the summer and we can't spend as much time on the computer.
Happy Father's Day Franz and to you all.
We visited in Arizona this week with relatives. It is an interesting place.
Ed has been reading the former Ridgewood Times on the Internet and finds some interesting things about Gottscheers. To call it up: http://timesweekly.com.
- mod25.new-philly.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:33:41 (GMT)
Trix:
OK Chicago Franz, what's up? What's new? What's going on in your life?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:34:44 (GMT)
Trix:
OK Chicago Franz, what's up? What's new? What's going on in your life?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:34:45 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix; I hope I didn't get the wrong information. I thought it was Sept. of 2001, but maybe I was wrong. I'll check, when I see PEte on 6-30. Sorry I can't go. Too many commitments here in KC.
- A020-0788.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:34:58 (GMT)
Patricia:
Margaret I am in Sacramento California but used to live near Santa Cruz for 11 years.
- ip251.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:36:21 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
ANybody know how to say "great" grandma and "great" grandpa in Gottscheberich??
- A020-0788.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:37:41 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ed and Mary: Our good friends live in Chesterland, Ohio. Is that anywhere near you??
- A020-0788.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:38:53 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Patricia and Mr. and Mrs. Krocker. Nice to hear from you both. Patricia: How far are you from Wilton, CA? I have a first cousin living there.
Mr. and Mrs. Krocker - Thank you for the information on the Ridgewood paper. You have been missed on the Plauderzimmer. Hope life is treating you well.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:42:27 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Margaret:
We live near New Philadelphia, which is probably about 100 miles south of Chesterland. Chesterland is located close to the Gottscheer Club at Novelty, Ohio, east of Cleveland. July 1 is the club's big picnic with lots of good food, music, dancing and fun!! We plan to go and meet our good Gottscheer friends from the Cleveland area.
- mod25.new-philly.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:43:47 (GMT)
Trix:
Sorry Margaret. I guess I gave you the German version for Urgroßmutter and Urgroßvater rather than the Gottscheer version. Anybody, what is it?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:44:52 (GMT)
Patricia:
Can anyone tell me if Gottschee had any folk art that it was known for ie, textile or painting etc. I know that present day Slovenia exports a lot of Crystal and just wondered if there is anything that says Gottschee to you of knowledge?
- ip251.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:46:03 (GMT)
Patricia:
Trix I am not sure exactly but I think it might be along the delta about 30 miles as I remember.
- ip251.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:49:26 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Patricia: My father, Leo Jonke, was trained as a cabinet-maker in Kummerdorf. Many fine craftsmen learned their trade being apprenticed to master cabinet makers there. But maybe that is not folk art.
- A020-0788.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:52:01 (GMT)
Patricia:
Margaret I hope you are blessed to have some of his work still with you?
- ip251.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 01:57:13 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Patricia: Yes. There are several pieces he made in the family as well as tons of other stuff he repaired and refinished. He was pretty well-known in KC antique markets for his ability to restore furniture.
- A020-0788.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:00:18 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must log off. Work to do. Auf Wiedersehen. Alles gut.
- A020-0788.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:02:50 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Goodnight to all! It was nice to join the Chat again.
Trix: Thanks for the good wishes. We are having a very busy, but nice summer. Three grandchildren are playing baseball and three were on the high school track team. Keeps us busy, but is lots of fun!
Want to catch the news. Have a good week everyone!
- mod25.new-philly.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:03:14 (GMT)
Patricia:
Well if everyone is calling it a night I will sign off also and take the kids to see grandma before the sun goes down. Good evening untill next week.
- ip251.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:07:59 (GMT)
:
Don't leave, I am coming.
- 1Cust92.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:09:57 (GMT)
Patricia:
who? Who?
- ip251.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:12:06 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Urgrossvater is aut Atte, Urgrossmutter is aut a
Ammoe.
- 1Cust92.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:12:20 (GMT)
Trix:
OK Chicago Franz, what's up? What's new? What's going on in your life?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:13:10 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz - danke, danke. What a smart guy.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:14:25 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Me, Me. Correction: Grandfather is Aut Atte, Grandmother is Aut Ammoe. Ur would be Aut Aut.
- 1Cust92.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:14:36 (GMT)
Patricia:
Good evening Franz
- ip251.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:15:29 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone
- spider-ntc-tb052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:15:42 (GMT)
Trix:
I don't think I ever knew a great-grandparent so never had to call them I guess.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:15:43 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Marilu. How goes in Colorado? Still snow inthe mountains?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:16:32 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Sorry, I aws insuch a rush to catch you guys and made all the mistakes. Life is dandy in our area, Iwas vrey laaaaazy today. Weather is heavenly, what else does one want.
- 1Cust92.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:17:09 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Trix there may be a little snow left in the mountains but it has mostly melted...these hot days it does not take long.
- spider-ntc-tb052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:18:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good Morning, everybody. I just woke up. That's what you get when an old lady sits down in front of the TV 'for just a minute'! Sorry I'm late, but glad you're still on!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:18:40 (GMT)
Patricia:
Trix Before I go I wanted to say that I heard from Max and he spoke to the two Maria Finks and they feel we must be related and one is going to have her son contact me and help me figure out our connection. This will be my first connection with someone from Gottschee. He says she was in the Father Trapp video as a child.
- ip251.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:18:45 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
I hope you guys have a good laugh at my typing tonight, goe ahead.
- 1Cust92.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:19:00 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Ridy
- spider-ntc-tb052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:19:22 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Aut Ammoe hot gueat gaschlufn?
- 1Cust92.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:20:57 (GMT)
Ridy:
Thanks, Franz! Aut Amö was dead to the world and now I just feel too tired to think!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:22:06 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Franz when was it you are coming to Colorado?
- spider-ntc-tb052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:22:12 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Marilu, if I don't make the wrong turn again and find the airport and not the emergency room, it will be Friday July 20th.
- 1Cust92.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:24:20 (GMT)
Ridy:
Marilu -- do you ever get called Lulu? Gottscheers were very big on nicknames - almost as bad as the Russians - and I was just thinking that in Gottschee you would probably have been called Lulu. I rather like that!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:25:24 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy......don,t you know what lulu meant?
- 1Cust92.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:26:18 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz - you quit that. Don't you dare call Ridy Aute Amo. She is a jüngei Amo. That is not right either is it Ridy? You are not an Amo yet. Boy, I think I am pretty darn tired too.
- 216.251.169.48 - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:26:43 (GMT)
Ridy:
You mean other than the Opera, Franz? No.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:27:08 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy I grew up being called LULU cause my cousin could not say my name.
- spider-ntc-tb052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:28:17 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy - GREAT to have you with us. Now that you have had a long nap what will the night bring?
- 216.251.169.48 - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:28:34 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, in my infant years I used to cry out I have to go lulu.
- 1Cust92.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:28:41 (GMT)
Ridy:
Amö is OK, Trix. That's what my parents called their mothers. I think it's only our generation that started to call their mothers Mama or Mutti. Aut Amö was Grandmother.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:29:01 (GMT)
Trix:
Patricia: That is so great. I have met the Finks. I hope there is a connection for all of you. Max should know. He is very good on his Gottscheer knowledge.
- 216.251.169.48 - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:30:05 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz! You've got me laughing out loud! Now I do remember! That's what we said. . . .but I think that was the refined way of saying it!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:30:41 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy: Have you given any thought to listing your book with Amazon.com? Good idea don't you think?
- 216.251.169.48 - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:31:48 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
So I dont want my nickname to be LULU is that you are saying?
- spider-ntc-tb052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:31:50 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, it's about time you laugh.
- 1Cust92.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:31:59 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz - you are full of the devil tonight aren't you? Funny too.
- 216.251.169.48 - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:32:51 (GMT)
Trix:
Anybody know where Dr. Jim is vacationing? Wonder too how Richard on Cook Island is doing? Dr. Jim, if you follow this ENJOY a great week.
- 216.251.169.48 - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:34:01 (GMT)
Ridy:
No - you do want your nickname to be Lulu -- I think it's pretty. Ignore Franz.
No - haven't thought about listing the book with Amazon.com. . . I've got to get it finished first. With Christopher in Detroit and then London this coming week, the corrected CD may not get done for a while. It's the story of my life -- I was born late and I've been running late ever since.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:34:14 (GMT)
Ridy:
Yes - Jim is where he always goes at this time of the year.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:34:56 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy, you may have been born late but you have not missed a hell of a lot since. It will get done!
- 216.251.169.48 - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:35:34 (GMT)
:
Trix - I thought you were going to be in Colorado this weekend. . .
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:43:15 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, the fox is in the chicken....... tonight.
- 1Cust92.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:43:42 (GMT)
Ridy:
Sorry - that no-name was me
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:43:50 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix I look forward to meeting you Friday.
- spider-ntc-tb052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:45:16 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Where did you all go????
- spider-ntc-tb052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:48:21 (GMT)
:
Just came back, Lulu; had to feed my cat, ChiChi
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:51:17 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, that must be Ridy...
- spider-ntc-tb052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:52:04 (GMT)
Ridy:
Oh dear -- I'm still sleepy
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:52:39 (GMT)
Trix:
Am still here - just had to check my e-mails. Had 4 and some needed attention.
Ridy: Maria and I leave for Denver on Thursday. I have worked very to get ready and we will enjoy it.
Also, we are celebrating. Our youngest daughter applied for, and has been offered the German teaching position at our local high school - her alma mater. She has wanted to "come back home" for the last 12 years and got her opportunity. They will be living 22 miles from us. It is just wonderful for all. Good things do come to nice people who wait.
- 216.251.169.48 - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:53:50 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
GIRLS, I enjoyed the party tonight, but have to part. Trix enjoy Colorado, it,s beautiful just so sorry I can,t be there.
- 1Cust92.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:54:06 (GMT)
Trix:
Marilu: I am looking forward to meeting you too.
- 216.251.169.48 - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:55:11 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night Franz...see you in July
- spider-ntc-tb052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:55:19 (GMT)
Ridy:
That's wonderful news about Amy being close by, Trix.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:55:22 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Guetei Nocht, Gute Nacht, Good Night.
- 1Cust92.tnt56.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:55:23 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gütei Nocht, Franze
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:55:53 (GMT)
Trix:
Well, time to call it a night at Waukenabo. Have a wonderful week everybody and stay well.
- 216.251.169.48 - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:56:12 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good Night Trix
- spider-ntc-tb052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:56:45 (GMT)
Ridy:
'Nite, Trix
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:57:02 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy what will be the price for your book?
- spider-ntc-tb052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:58:36 (GMT)
Ridy:
That just leaves you and me, Lulu, and my eyes keep falling shut. Take care, and tell us how the dinner with all the Gottscheer members goes next week!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 02:59:14 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ok Ridy I will tell you all about it....Wish you were going to be there.
- spider-ntc-tb052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 03:01:03 (GMT)
Ridy:
The price? Haven't really decided that. I'll know better when I get the bill and I'll probably have to add postage, but I don't know what that will be either, until I take one to the post office. Whatever the cost will be. . . under $20 I hope.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 03:01:11 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well we can exchange copies, if you want one of mine. Good Night.
- spider-ntc-tb052.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 03:03:23 (GMT)
Ridy:
Sure do! That's a deal!
Good night
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 03:05:02 (GMT)
hans:
anyone there?
- 57-pool2.ras11.calan.tii-dial.net - Monday, June 18, 2001 at 05:41:15 (GMT)
Trix:
Sorry Hans - I guess everyone was gone by the time you checked in. Please do it again. If you would like send me an e-mail: wyants@mlecmn.net. Would enjoy hearing where you live and to where, in Gottschee, you connection is. Look forward to your mail. Danke.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Tuesday, June 19, 2001 at 17:06:16 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Rudolf G. Droese born in Villach, Austria on September 7, 1946.
Died June 15, 2001 at Cleveland Clinic, Cleveland, Ohio
Husband to Holly Leers Droese.
Son of Horst Droese and Aurelia Koenig Droese. She was born in Gutenburg#12(Pinkaisch) to August Koenig and Pauline Stalzer.Pauline of Untersteinwand#12.
- ashdial-191.suite224.net - Friday, June 22, 2001 at 13:11:08 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Holly, my thoughts and my prayers are with you . I am so sorry to read your message. The Lord made an end to the suffering.
- 1Cust119.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Saturday, June 23, 2001 at 02:12:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello to everyone. Will be bouncing back and forth. Email me if you come on.
- spider-mtc-tj013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 00:57:38 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim and any others: Guten Abend. Hope all are well.
- A010-0163.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:10:34 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Holly: I am so sorry. I know my lsentiments are late, but sincere. Take care. I will pray for you.
- A010-0163.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:12:01 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Our Jonke treffen in KC is next Saturday. Will report to you all on Sunday. Anxious to see who turns up. ANxious to see how many new cousins I find.
- A010-0163.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:13:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Margaret. I hope the treffen goes well. A large treffen is in the NY area over the Labor Day weekend but we have a wedding on Saturday so I don't know if I will be making it. Disappointed.
- spider-mtc-tj013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:15:41 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: My Tante Leni Jonke from Mahopac goes to all the big treffens. She was hoping that I would go and my sister and several cousins, but it's not possible.
- A010-0163.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:16:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I went to the Gottscheer picnic earlier this month and brought my laptop with the genealogy information. Several people came by and we had a good time discussing the data. I wish the large treffen wasn't on Labor Day but that is the traditional day. This weekend is the big meeting in Denver. I just got back from a trip so I could not make that one either.
- spider-mtc-tj013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:21:21 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have to sign off early tonight. Will check back later. Take care and everyone have a good week. Interested to here how the GHGA meeting and your treffen turn out.
- spider-mtc-tj013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:22:22 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Cousin Pete Jonke from Pensacola should be in genealogy heaven sharing infor. with all at the treffen. He is really into that.
- A010-0163.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:23:29 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guess I will sign off for now. Work to do. Auf wiedersehen Alles gut.
- A010-0163.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:29:29 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Guten Abend, Margaret and Jim.
Hope Marilu and Trix can join us this evening and tell us all about the meeting in Denver!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:31:13 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Griass ei Goett, olle mitanondr.
- 1Cust93.tnt6.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:48:56 (GMT)
Ridy:
Ah! Der Vogelhändler ist da!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:50:47 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Beibr oedr mondr.
- 1Cust93.tnt6.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:51:28 (GMT)
Trix:
Greetings to you all from Waukenabo Lake. Very peaceful here compared to the activities in Denver. It was a GREAT annual meeting and I had the pleasure of meeting and enjoying some quality hours with our mutual friend Marilu. Arrived home at 5:30 this evening. Smooth flying all the way. We missed the terrible hail storm in Denver by hours. It caused damage in the millions to 42 United Airline planes thus cancelling hundreds of flights. What a beautiful airport!
The meetings were well attended and everyone had a marvelous time. Many good decisions were made and fellow GHGA board member Mary Krische Rees of CA and I made our first appearence as a duet teaching and leading in the singing of 2 beautiful Gottscheer hymns. A great touch to the days agenda.
Where is Marilu tonight? Who knows! Last time I saws her she was having a great time with....oops, I better not tell all that I know. (Enjoy Ridy). Saw family history book - beautifully done. The only incredible sadness was the news about Holly's mother. Life can be so cruel - two major traumatic events within days. Holly, we love you!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:52:57 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Trix, welcome back. How was the meeting? Just too bad I could not make it. I am shooting for next year.
- 1Cust93.tnt6.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 01:59:17 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Trix!
Sounds like you had a great time and got some work done as well. Will you be writing about it in the Connection?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 02:01:34 (GMT)
Trix:
The meeting was great Franz. Remember, it will be at Lukan's, a Gottscheer resort in Hawley, Pa. Would love to meet you there. We made many good decisions, met many new people for the first time and met many, with whom I have communicated and worked with for years, face to face for the first time. Enjoyed our guest speaker, Dr. Juznic from the Kostel region of Slovenia who gave an excellent presentation on the Urbars of 1574 and traced the Gottscheer names to his area in Slovenia. It was a fun time for all. Food, as always excellent as well the accomodations at the Holiday Inn Northglenn.
Anybody going to the North American Gottscheer Treffen in New York?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 02:04:20 (GMT)
Trix:
Absolutely Ridy. My many photos better turn out too. Got some real gems of some very neat Gottscheers. How are you? How is everybody else doing?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 02:05:42 (GMT)
Ridy:
My kids both got back into town this evening and I've got some catching up to do. See you next week, everybody!
Gute Nacht.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 02:11:22 (GMT)
franz Mausser:
Guetei Nocht, Ammoe.
- 1Cust79.tnt9.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 02:12:28 (GMT)
Trix:
Good night to you all. Have a great week. Marilu - you too!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 02:27:42 (GMT)
Eddie Rabuse:
Hi Waukenabo Trix and Chicago Franze. You still on? Bie geat Ai's?
- spider-wi054.proxy.aol.com - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 02:27:45 (GMT)
Trix:
Greetings Eddie Rabuse. Sorry we abandoned you last evening. I guess everyone was exhausted. Please join us again. We promise to stay awake next Sunday. Have a good week and thanks for joining us. Geschünd bleib!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, June 25, 2001 at 13:48:58 (GMT)
Eddie:
OK Trix,I might try again Sunday. Wait for me this time!
- spider-tk064.proxy.aol.com - Thursday, June 28, 2001 at 19:00:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Been going through some more of the Ellis Island records and have run across the town name of Hrib. According to the surname book by Martha Hutter, Hrib is a variation of Buchl. Anyone know if there was another town of the same name. Also, while looking at the Bartol/Barthol name, there was a town that was fractured into many different but similar spellings ------ Loskipotog, Leskipotol, Leskipotok, Leski Potok. Anyone know of a town with something similar. I could not place it.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 00:55:25 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Trix, hope you log on. Super time at our Jonke treffen. Pete Jonke is an absolute jewel. He provided the food and cooked it for about 45 people. Shrimp he brought from Florida in dry ice. YUMM
- A010-1147.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:00:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Margaret. Good to hear about the Jonke treffen. The shrimp sounded great.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:07:58 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
For those of you who are interested, Barry Deutschmann just sent me a site that may help locate people who went to Canada in the 1925-35 range. The address is :www.archives.ca/02/02011802_e.html .
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:10:21 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hi everyone!
Margaret, the Jonke treffen must have been a lot of fun.
We just got home from Cleveland where we attended the annual family picnic at the Gottscheer Park. One of our sons and two grandsons went with us. Featured was lots of good German food, the Gottscheer folk dancers, a brass band and a polka band. We all had a great time!!
To top it off, the grandsons caught some really big fish in the ponds there.
- mod46.new-philly.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:12:29 (GMT)
Trix:
Greetings Dr. Jim, KC Margaret and all others who will be joining us tonight. Hope you are all doing well.
Margaret: I am so happy that you enjoyed the reunion. Tell us more, tell us more.
Dr. Jim. I think there were 2 Hrib or Büchel. 1 in the Western Region (near Nesseltal) and the other inthe Moschnitze area.
I am thinking the village you are looking for in your earlier posting is probably SvetliPotok or Lichtenbach. They look very similar to me and we need to remember that someone who knew nothing about all these strange names did the actual transcribing. I vote for the above.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:12:32 (GMT)
Trix:
Greetings Dr. Jim, KC Margaret and all others who will be joining us tonight. Hope you are all doing well.
Margaret: I am so happy that you enjoyed the reunion. Tell us more, tell us more.
Dr. Jim. I think there were 2 Hrib or Büchel. 1 in the Western Region (near Nesseltal) and the other inthe Moschnitze area.
I am thinking the village you are looking for in your earlier posting is probably SvetliPotok or Lichtenbach. They look very similar to me and we need to remember that someone who knew nothing about all these strange names did the actual transcribing. I vote for the above.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:13:46 (GMT)
Trix:
Sorry, anxious fingers I guess.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:15:19 (GMT)
Trix:
Question: Does anyone know where I can buy a Slovenian Potica Mold?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:16:34 (GMT)
Eddie Rabuse:
Zivjo,Trix. Hello to all you Gottscheers out there.The weather on Long Island had been hot and humid and we had a severe Thunderstorm Watch this evening. Cool CANADIAN air is on its way. Thanks Ridy. Keep fanning!
- spider-mtc-te014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:25:14 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Trixa; My oma, Rosalia Jonke, was born in Lichtenbach. No wonder that sounded so familiar. Will send you details about the treffen in an email. Might be boring to talk about it tonight. Pete and John leave in Sept. for Gottschee.
- A010-1455.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:30:17 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, Thanks for the information. I was looking at Lichtenbach for the one which would fit with Buchl because both would have been in the Nesseltal parish. However, the surname was Bartol or Barthol and I did not know if they came from that parish. Martha list them as being in Suchen, Hinterberg, and Merlinsrauth.
I agree with Eddie. Keep the cool winds blowing. Tomorrow should be a great day in the tristate area.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:30:36 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: What does zivjo mean??
- A010-1455.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:31:02 (GMT)
Eddie:
Zivjo is Slovenian for hello. Am I right Trix?
- spider-mtc-te014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:33:10 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Servus, everybody!
Glad you appreciate the cool air down there -- it sure feels great to be able to breathe outside again!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:34:55 (GMT)
Trix:
Well, Hi Mr. Rabuse. Good to have you aboard. I heard about the bad weather. No damage I hope. We FINALLY got the cool weather. It was great today.
Margaret: Received a letter from Emil Kresse in Gottschee. He is looking forward to seeing the Jonkes in September.
I think you are right, Mr. Rabuse, it does mean
It does mean hello. At least in my book it does.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:40:37 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening, Ridy.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:40:49 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Ridy. Hope you had a great day. What happened to Marilu? Don't tell me she is still in Denver!
So, what's new with everyone?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:42:09 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: We really worry about John making this long trip. His health is poor and Pete will have his hands full taking care of him, but John is determined to go. Wants to spend time in cemeteries--looking for relatives.
- A010-1455.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:43:54 (GMT)
Trix:
Oops, forget to send greetings to Cook Island Richard (maybe Australia by now) and Patricia. Then there is Chicago Franz.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:44:08 (GMT)
Trix:
Margaret: Agree, that is always a worry but I know that John just loved it there last year. I hope all will go well. I think that Emil's wife is already planning on a potica or strudel for them. I know there is lots to see and I hope he will take the time to do it.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:46:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Not much new here. Gardening, working out, work, and the like. Just a little bit of time spent on the Ellis Island information.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:47:08 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Anyone tried the MyTrees.com website for family searches?
It's supposed to be terrific. . . .Haven't tried it yet myself.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:52:31 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Share with us your excellent idea about gathering information from Gottscheers for the data bank. You are right on - we need to use every possible tool available to us to obtain the many details that individuals can share. Frankly, a handout at the North American Gottscheer Treffen in New York might be a good place. I consider myself a novice when it comes to this kind of information gathering but I fully support the concept and need. How would you propose that it be done? By handout; through a mailing etc.?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:52:39 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Ridy: We are interested in getting a copy of your book. Let us know the details, etc.
Going to sign off and catch the news. Goodnight everyone!
- mod36.new-philly.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:55:20 (GMT)
Ridy:
Ed and Mary -
just send me your name and address to ridy@home.com
It won't be long now. . .
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:56:40 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Logged on to the trees website and they couldn't find my Jonkes???
- A010-1455.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:56:58 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
How about it, full house tonight. Good Evening, how is everybody?
- 1Cust166.tnt7.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:57:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, my idea is that a questionnaire be developed which would be one, possibly two pages long. The questions should be geared towards obtaining key bits of information with room for the respondent to add information if they wish. It should trace back at least two generations if not more. This way there should be enough information to link back with the parish records on microfilm. The information should then be place in a database. I am hoping that the GHGA will consider the proposal. The questionnaire can be handed out with other materials and collected as people leave or by mail.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:58:07 (GMT)
Eddie:
Ridy, I'm already re-cycling bottles and cans so I can buy your book!
- spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:58:11 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Chicago Franz. I am doing pretty well, me thinks. It has been a tough week - recovering from Denver and the heat. It's coming your way Franz. Be ready! How are you?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:58:50 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, haven't tried that site either. Maybe it will have something on my father's side.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 01:59:33 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Love the idea. Could you put it on the web in some form? We can't all attend meetings. Thanks
- A010-1455.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:01:17 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Thanks. As I have said EXCELLENT IDEA. Someone who really knows the stuff will have to come up with the questionnaire so that all points can be included.
The GHGA will have their next business meeting in January. It is possible that this could be an agenda item.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:02:03 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Really must log off. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- A010-1455.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:02:08 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, thank you I am surviving. We had heat and humidity yesterday, today we were in the upper 60, what a sudden change.
- 1Cust166.tnt7.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:02:34 (GMT)
Trix:
Margaret: that is a great idea.
Is anyone familiar with the name Kohlweiss?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:03:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Thanks, Margaret. I think this is something that the GHGA should get some input from others. This way a standard form can be developed that everyone is comfortable with. I know some of the computer programs come with sample letters but I haven't checked them out.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:03:38 (GMT)
Trix:
Anybody going to the Treffen in New York?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:05:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Don't think so. I have a wedding on Saturday and probable Labor Day get togethers on Sunday and Monday. Just a bad weekend to travel and there is always something else going on.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:08:52 (GMT)
Trix:
I am reading a book called ISLAND OF HOPE, ISLAND OF TEARS. It is the story of those who entered the New World through Ellis Island - in their own words. It is going to be a gem. Just received it from a friend in Hawley. Thought you might be interested in reading it too.
Also, a question to all of you who came to America after th war. Do you remember many details,including the journey across the Atlantic? I am realizing that I recall so very little and am wondering why? Was it that intimidating to be coming to a new country where we knew no one? It is not that I was small, I was 16, for heaven sakes and should be remembering every detail. OK everybody. Lets hear it. How clear are your recollections?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:10:33 (GMT)
Eddie:
The Treffen will take place about 5 miles from my house. I never attended this event before due mainly to the fact that I almost always worked Labor Day weekends. This year I'm free and we expect to go.
- spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:13:25 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, I remember, I had a wonderful trip in the Holland American Line. I had food I never knew it existed before. At least not in Komutzen.
- 1Cust166.tnt7.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:13:40 (GMT)
Ridy:
We are very lucky to have the letter which Arnold's mother, Hildegard Rom, wrote to Arnold's sister Inge, describing their trip over on the Queen Mary. It forms the last part of the book. When I first read it I remembered a lot of our own trip over in 1948. It's several pages long and very descriptive.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:14:06 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz: How did you manage that? The Holland American Line is a luxury ship isn't it? We came on the USNS Gen. Muir!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:15:22 (GMT)
Trix:
Eddie - be sure and dance for all of us! In my humble opinion I think the Gottscheers are about as good as any dancers I have ever seen.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:16:47 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, some money saved and some borrowed.
- 1Cust166.tnt7.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:17:01 (GMT)
Eddie:
Trix, we came over on the Ile De France in 1950...don't ask me how we got on that ship. The trip took 6 days and I still remember some things clearly, especially the bad weather!
- spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:18:41 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy: I can just imagine how you value that letter. I so wish I would have had a journal in those days. Having a descriptive document like that is one of those rare gifts that last forever. I am so happy for you. Can't wait to read it.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:19:23 (GMT)
Ridy:
Are any of you experts at burning CDs?
I finally figured out how to transfer the manuscript to CD and I'm able to play it back fine on my own computer. Now I've been told by several individuals that it may not be possible for others to read my CD on their computer. Is there a special trick to that?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:19:43 (GMT)
Trix:
Eddie: Thanks. That is what I mean. I do not have a clue how we got on the ship either. I do know 2 other parties, one in the GHGA, who came on the Gen. Muir. I need to get in touch with themm and see what they remember. This is so odd.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:21:03 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy: Send me a copy and I will try it. If it works with me it will work for EVERYBODY!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:22:19 (GMT)
Ridy:
I don't think there were a lot of tourists going to Europe in the years after the war, and I think all the big ships took immigrants. . . .
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:23:04 (GMT)
Trix:
Mr. Rabuse: Have you heard anything from the hehe kid lately? What a guy!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:23:12 (GMT)
Ridy:
Actually, I had run off copies for each of you last night -- then discovered a mistake this morning, and decided I didn't like the title either. The one I came up got thumbs down and besides, it turns out it was used by someone else two years ago. Any good ideas floating around out there?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:24:59 (GMT)
Eddie:
I know several families who came over on the General Langfitt. I think they had to help with the paddling.
- spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:25:49 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy: What's the title?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:27:19 (GMT)
Franz:
Once I had My Visa and all necessary papers, I visited a travel agency and they worked on the trip for me and I decided the SS Maasdam of the Holland America line was the ship for me, had a good time.
- 1Cust24.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:27:22 (GMT)
Ridy:
Well, our ship, the S.S.Samaria, was taken out of mothballs to bring us over, and permanently retired soon after. I thought it was a beautiful boat - we took 11 days -- and would gladly have stayed on it for the rest of my days. I like being waited on hand and foot!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:27:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
How about:
Gottscheer Remembrances: The Last Years in Europe
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:27:47 (GMT)
Eddie:
No Trix. I haven't e-mailed him recently. By the way, you had asked me about T.McCarthy. No, I never heard of her and I doubt that we are related.
- spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:28:18 (GMT)
Ridy:
That's just it, Trix -- as of this evening I'm looking for a new title. . .
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:28:19 (GMT)
Franz:
My wife and some of my friends came on the General Langfield.
- 1Cust24.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:28:38 (GMT)
Trix:
Very nice Dr. Jim.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:29:16 (GMT)
Ridy:
That's going to the top of the list, Jim!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:29:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Eddie, is your name Edmund?
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:29:53 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, what would you like to know? Somethings can't be printed here.
- 1Cust24.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:30:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Thank you, Ridy. I am sure there will be other more deserving candidates.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:30:58 (GMT)
Trix:
Eddie:Tina's mother was a Rabuse of Nesseltal #5. She was the daughter of Joseph Rabuse of Nesseltal #21 and Maria Bauer from Reichenau. Imagine both of you being from Nesseltal by the same name.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:31:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, are you referring to the questionnaire?
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:31:52 (GMT)
Trix:
I don't think so Dr. Jim. Take a bow - you deserve it. You did good!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:32:40 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, the last years in Europe.
- 1Cust24.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:33:03 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz: Why can't it be printed here?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:33:34 (GMT)
Eddie:
My Father's house was #10, just down the 'block'. It's all too confusing!
- spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:35:02 (GMT)
Franz:
Trix, I am afraid the computers will go up in smoke.
- 1Cust24.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:35:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, I think the others were asking about that. I have been off on the Rabuse path. Trix, I have Tina Tomitz McCarthy in my file as well as an Edmund Rabuse.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:35:56 (GMT)
Trix:
Eddie: Why don't you think about writing to Tina. Look her upp in the GHGA membership directory. I am just thinking, you must be related. That would be a great find. She has done a lot of work on her genealogy. Give some thought, ok?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:36:40 (GMT)
Eddie:
Jim. Sorry I'm late. Yes, it is EDMUND.
- spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:37:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Eddie, was your father, Aleks? If so, you are in my file as well but I don't have your birthdate. Tina Tomitz McCarthy is your half 3rd cousin.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:37:46 (GMT)
Trix:
Eddie: I totally understand when you say "it is all so confusing" and it is. It takes a lot of time to sort it all out but once you have it, it is a piece of cake.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:39:05 (GMT)
Franz:
Trix, I am only kidding.
- 1Cust24.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:39:10 (GMT)
Eddie:
Yes. My father's name was Alex (Aleks). What, another cousin? I have no idea who she is.
- spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:40:48 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Anything on the name Kohlweiss?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:41:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Eddie, that's okay about not knowing about another cousin. Depending on the parish, everyone is related to everyone. Some closer than others.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:42:08 (GMT)
Trix:
I agree with Dr. Jim. I think all of us have walked the path of learning about our relatives. When I first figured out that the Hutters, Maussers and I were second cousins my siblings could not believe. Now we all enjoy this newfound friendship.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:44:17 (GMT)
Franz:
Trix, are you in contact with Wes in Oregon? I have been translating some letters in German script for him. He said he will try to join us tonight.
- 1Cust24.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:44:59 (GMT)
Eddie:
Jim. Thanks,I feel a lot better now!
- spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:45:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Eddie, how close are you to Orient Point and the north shore wineries?
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:45:17 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have a listing of six pages of relatives for you. Most are of the eternally resting variety but I have some first cousins in there as well.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:46:51 (GMT)
Franz:
Trix, tell me about the Hutters. My Uncle was married to a Hutter and her sister resides here in Chicago.
- 1Cust24.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:46:56 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz: Yes, I have been although not lately. I bet those letters are great. Would love to read some.
So, am I correct in assuming that you like to translate from German to English? Can I call on you sometime? I promise I will not take advantage of you but it is nice to have someone when you need a document translated like "quickly". We need you and appreciate your talents.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:47:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, I looked for Kohlweiss and came up with nothing.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:48:06 (GMT)
Ridy:
With a name like Kohlweiss, you'd have to have a sense of humour! "White as coal?"
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:49:05 (GMT)
Trix:
My Hutters come from Plesch by Tschermoschnitz. Their grandmother and my grandfather Schober, all from Reuter by Tschermoschnitz, were siblings. I do not think any live in Chicago. They are in New York, Walden, Germany and Austria.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:49:32 (GMT)
Eddie:
Jim.Orient Point is about a 1 1/2 hour drive from me. The winery is in my basement!
- spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:50:08 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It is getting to be time for me to sign off.
Eddie, if you would like a copy of what I have, just email me or leave a message and a way to send it to you. I don't have much on your Stalzer or Meditz lines so if you have more information in that area, I might be able to research it a little more.
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:50:33 (GMT)
Franz:
Hey Ridy, are you still awake? Lei et gia schlufn.
- 1Cust24.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:51:04 (GMT)
Ridy:
Ich pin nöch du, Franze, ubr schlufrig pin i a schon.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:51:54 (GMT)
Trix:
Going back to Kohlweiss. Ridy, you have a point - it would take a sense of humor. Gosh, you are sharp lady. That CD is going to work, come hell or high water.
Spoke to Trudy Flanagan today. Kohlweiss is her family name. She has exhausted every avenue and is now thinking he may not be a Gottscheer but perhaps Hungarian. Any ideas? By the way, she and 2 daughters recently spent 1 week in Gottshee and loved it.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:52:01 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Aha, I have found another north shore winery. Be right there. Would you like me to bring some cheese and crackers?
- spider-mtc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:52:03 (GMT)
Ridy:
Not too far for me to fly down and join the party, Eddie and Jim! Wait for me!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:52:43 (GMT)
Eddie:
Jim. I would appreciate that. I'll get in touch with you. Maybe AOL instant message?
- spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:53:51 (GMT)
Franz:
Trix, I know they are from the Moschnitzn, which village I don't know.
- 1Cust24.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:54:03 (GMT)
Trix:
Time to said Gute Nacht for me too. It was a pleasure to chat with all of you. Thank you! Ridy, I like the title!
Have a great week, stay well and smile.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:54:10 (GMT)
Ridy:
Me too - Gütei Nocht, pis abr insch biedr schachn. . .
'nite all
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:55:56 (GMT)
Eddie:
Hey. Everyone's welcome. Stay for the Treffen.
- spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:56:05 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz: try to find out from which village the Hutters are from ok? Danke. Schlufn tüa güat!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:56:14 (GMT)
Franz:
Good Night All.
- 1Cust24.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:56:56 (GMT)
Trix:
Güatei Nucht, Eddie ünd aue.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 02:57:27 (GMT)
Eddie:
Güatei Nocht, Gottcheebar Leite.
- spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 02, 2001 at 03:00:39 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
To everyone: Sorry I have missed the last couple of Sunday nights. Miss you all. I will be on my way home from Minnesota this Sunday, so will miss another Sunday. I thoroughly enjoyed the weekend in Denver. It was wonderful meeting everyone. I only wish you all could of been there. Trix, you are a delight!
- USR1RRT1-97.DialUp.rrt.net - Tuesday, July 03, 2001 at 12:01:18 (GMT)
Trix:
Marilu: It's about time that you checked in. I was beginning to wonder if you decided to stay in Denver. Hope your visit to Minnesota has been a great one. Did you make to Ely? If you do, be sure and check out Zup's, one of the best stores anywhere.I buy all my Easter stuff from them.
It was a pleasure meeting you in Denver. Thanks for joining us and thanks for your contributions. Great job on your book!
To all of you regular visitors in the Plauderzimmer - HAPPY 4th of JULY. Have fun.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Wednesday, July 04, 2001 at 01:53:37 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Leaving a message early. May not get back. My Tante Leni Jonke of Mahopac had a super time at a Gottscheer gathering in Newburgh, NY, today. Food, music, dancing. Did any of you attend? Sounds like a fun time. My cousins, Werner and Trudy Lackner of Hopewell Junction, NY, also attended.
- A010-0842.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 00:15:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Margaretha. I am disappointed that I could not get there. I left a couple of messages with people earlier this summer trying to find out when the Walden meeting was and did not know it was this weekend until Trix mentioned it. I wish I could have gone. The weather was overcast but it was not too hot. Hopefully, next year.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 00:52:42 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Dr. Jim and Margaret. Greetings from a very hot Minnesota. 92° today - 46° last week. What does it mean? I, too, have had a report on the annual picnic at Walden. it was a huge success. It rained this morning but the weather cleared nicely. Everyone, as always, had a good time. Their next picnic is scheduled for September. I do not have the date but will find out. Also plan to check if the picnic is always a certain Sunday of July. That way people can plan. Margaret, do you know if your aunt and family took any photos? Would love to get some for the Gottscheer Connection. This event, too, is a big part of the Gottscheer gatherings throughout the country and needs to be supported.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:22:44 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Don't know about photos?? Sounds like they were too busy eating and dancing, according to Tante Leni.
- A020-0971.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:25:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, if you get the date, please send it along. I would like to get there. Perhaps bring the laptop. Stir up some interest. Sent an email about the Hawley Vogrins. I may have that family in the file but not sure. I spoke with Eleanor Lukan and she gave me some names of people in the Hawley area to call but have not gotten around to it.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:26:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
How many picnics do they have a year?
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:26:47 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: The name Vogrin brings back some high school memories. I dated a guy named George Vogrin from KCKansas. He was Croatian, not Gottscheer. We have lots of Croatian people in KCKS
- A020-0971.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:27:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Many of the Gottscheer Vogrins came from the towns along the Gottschee-Croatian border in the southeast parishes.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:29:34 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: There are quite a few Gottscheers in Hawley. At our annual meeting in 1998 I met numerous ones and we did quite a few oral histories which are now being transcribed by a committee within the GHGA. Will get the date on the picnic, post it and share it. I think the laptop would be a huge hit. We need to remember that many, many Gottscheers do not know about the information that has been collected and is available. I have had the pleasure of sharing in the joy of discovering their family tree more than once during during the last year. It is what I call a NATURAL HIGH. Nothing quite like it.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:31:21 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Recently discovered that friends of mine live only 2 miles from the Gottscheer club house in Cleveland--or the suburb of. They hear lots of peppy music from there. They thought all these years Jonke was Croatian. Guess I forgot to tell them.
- A020-0971.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:33:02 (GMT)
Trix:
Margaret: Interesting about the Vogrin that you dated. I believe that some family ancestors of one of our members went to the Kansas City area. Small world. Are there any Vogrins still in the area Margaret?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:33:47 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: To my surprise I learned today that there are 2 picnics a year in the Walden NY area. One in July the other in September. What's the lesson here? We need to have better communications amongst the Gottscheers.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:35:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Sometimes I think bringing the computer would be great and other times I think it might detract from the other reasons for the picnics and other meetings. When I went to the picnic on Long Island, I initially left the computer in the car. Only after talking to a few people, I decided to bring it out. I am also concerned that too many people might get interested at one time and would like some input from the GHGA as to how we should handle multiple requests.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:35:54 (GMT)
Trix:
Margaret: The Gottscheer Club House in Cleveland is absolutely beautiful. One of the neatest buildings I have ever seen (at least on this side of the ocean)and is booked just about every Saturday during the year. They are known for their food, their hospitality, their active organization and good leadership. At present their president is Josef Sieder born in Unterdeutschau and ably assisted by his very capable wife Maria Klementitsch Sieder born in Reuter by Tschermoschnitz and many, many others.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:38:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Margaretha, It is amazing how many crossconnects we have made from place to place. Australia, Austria, Germany, England, the faraway Kingdom of Brooklyn.
Trix, I hope the September picnic date is one I can get to.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:38:24 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: I agree the matter of the laptop and sharing of information is a topic that should be discussed by the GHGA and perhaps even others. Someone, in my humble opinion should take the leadership role on this potential exciting, important and worthwhile project. I shall gladly pass it on to our board and perhaps can be discussed at our January 2002 telephone conference call. I need to learn what is all involved in this too, I am not a genealogist but certain delight in what I have learned and the joy it brings to others. Needs to be addressed and somehow implemented.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:41:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Distantly related to Maria Klementitsch. A fifth cousin.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:42:17 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Tris: Just made a quick check in my phone directory. I see 11 Vogrins listed. Some in KCKS, KCMO, and other suburbs. Haven't thought about the Vogrins in some years. What curious ways we have of conncecting. Have been to the Gottscheer Club House in Cleveland at the general meeting 2 years ago. Absolutely lovely!
- A020-0971.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:43:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The computer could be a great tool for getting people interested but it should be done in such a way that benefits the individual and the GHGA.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:44:16 (GMT)
Trix:
Greetings to our missing regulars tonight: Toronto Ridy; Chicago Franz; Colorado Marilu; CA Patricia; Cook Island - Australia or New Zealand Richard; NY's Rabuse; Ohio's Krockers and all others that are joining us silently but not ready to be active. We welcome your presence and sharing. I apologize to anyone that I missed.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:44:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Perhaps they are enjoying a bit of wine and cheese. Perhaps a beer and a pizza. A cigar and a cognac (not my favorite) but some people like it.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:46:18 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: How are you related to Maria Sieder?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:48:39 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: How are you related to Maria Sieder?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:48:41 (GMT)
Franz:
Good Evening All, I guess better late than never. How are we tonight?
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:49:06 (GMT)
Trix:
How did you arrive at those conclusions Dr. Jim? Interesting!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:49:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Right now I am related by computer. I put her name in and I came up as a distant cousin. I wish the program would sort out the linking relatives but I don't think it can do that yet.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:49:47 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix; Speaking of Gottscheer Vogrins, or Croatian Vogrins. There is a community in KCKS called Strawberry Hill where Croatian people settled to go to work in the slaughter houses and meat packing plants, when Kansas City had a big stockyard and meat processing plants. Many still live in that area. Named for wild strawberries that once grew all over the hills there.
- A020-0971.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:50:26 (GMT)
Trix:
Grüß Dich Franz! How goes it with you. Have an important question for the man. How long can you drive a Volvo? I mean, about how many miles before it is time to hang it up?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:51:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Which conclusion ---- Marie Sieder or the wine and cheese. One by data, the other by the grumbling in my stomach.
Hello, Franz. It seems I mention wine and you appear. That is interesting as well.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:51:04 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, you are always right and know the magic words.
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:52:28 (GMT)
Trix:
Margaret, Strawberry Hill is also know for its Gottscheers. When we held our annual meeting there in the early 1990's we toured the museum in Strawberry Hill. It was very itneresting. There are many Gottscheers in the area. We had over 120 at the Gottscheer Reunion on the Sunday following a polka mass. Fun, fun.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:52:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I like the name Strawberry Hill. Perhaps I should get a slice of watermelon before we continue.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:53:02 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten abend, Franz. I was just ready to log off. Guess I will sty for a little while longer.
- A020-0971.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:53:08 (GMT)
Ridy:
Howdy, everybody!
Good to see you haven't all gone home already!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:54:46 (GMT)
Franz:
Trix, there is a owner of a 1966 Volvo P1800 who is closing in on 2.000,000 miles and I saw him and his Volco 2 weeks ago. Will all Volvos make it that far????
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:55:22 (GMT)
Trix:
I meant the food combinatins not Maria Sieder. I say go for the watermelon. Sounds much better than any of the other combinations that you threw out.
By the way our daughter Maria, who lives in Duluth visited the well known European Bakery last week found poticas. Of course, she brought it home. Absolutely the best I have ever eaten (including my mom's) and it is freshly baked daily at Chisholm, MN. A nice find. My specialty is Apfelstrudel but I need to try a potica one of these cool days.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:56:14 (GMT)
Franz:
Guten Abend Margaret, nice of you to stick around for a while.
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:56:48 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there everyone,
finally able to make it here. Spent the day with Aurelia and her brother Gus Koenig who just returned from gottschee, Austria area. He had a great time.
- ashdial-217.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:57:09 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: We had a VW for 10 years. It got plenty to hard use as our 2 sons learned to drive on it and really banged it up a few times. Great little car. Wonder where it is now?
- A020-0971.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:57:19 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
He was hosted by the Ulz/Tscherne clan, and a Mausser.
- ashdial-217.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:57:46 (GMT)
Ridy:
Wonderful to see you, Holly!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:58:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Actually, I prefer wine & cheese or beer & pizza but the watermelon will suffice. Very sweet and no seeds.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:58:08 (GMT)
Trix:
OK Margaret, what's the deal? You want to log off with us but when Chicago Franz joins us you are staying. The power of Franz. WOW!
Franz: What are all those zeros? Do you mean 200,000 miles?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:58:19 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Trix,
You probably know Mariede Tscherne well.
- ashdial-217.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:58:31 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there ridy,
glad to be here.
- ashdial-217.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 01:59:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Ridy and Holly. Great to have you tonight. See, Trix, all we have to do is mention wine or beer and they jump into the chat room.
Holly,
where did they stay in Gottschee?
Margaret, have a ten year old Accord with almost 140000 miles on it. It just won't die. Bought a new one in 2000 and I don't use it.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:00:40 (GMT)
Eddie :
Hi Jim,Trix,Franze,Margaret,Ridy.Did I miss anyone?
- spider-tk083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:00:43 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Holly. Welcome! Wonderful to have you with us.
Margaret: I love the new VW beetle (spelled right?). I have been tempted but much of our long distance travel is with daughter and grandson and it may not be big enough. Have always wanted one of them.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:00:52 (GMT)
Franz:
TYrix, no 2 million, honestly. He and his car are in the G. Book .
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:01:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Now, now, Trix let us not be insulted. Franz has the magic.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:01:25 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie: Is that Eddie Stalzer from New Hamp? If so, this is your cousin Margie. Haven't heard from you in a long time. Did hear from Tante Leni about the super time she, Werner, Trudy had a the Newburgh, NY picnic.
- A020-0971.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:02:16 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ulz's have a home in Karten area I believe they drove around. I think Frank Mausser lives in Krapflenfeld. I will have to check on that.
- ashdial-217.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:02:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening, Eddie. Just received a letter from a cousin on my dad's side who lives in the Northport area.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:02:46 (GMT)
Trix:
Eddie, we are talking about your Volvo. See, it still has a lot of life in it. Chicago Franz would not be wrong - no way.
Holly: Yes I know Maridi well. She is a very talented, bright and enjoyable young woman. Also know members of her family. I am intrigued by Mausser. Any chance they are from Reuter (Lase) i.e. Gita and/or brother Franz? I would really love the phone number for your mother in law and Mr. Koenig. Would enjoy visiting with them.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:03:41 (GMT)
Eddie :
Sorry Margaret. This is Eddie Rabuse. Hope I didn't disappoint! But I do know Werner and Trudy Lackner.
- spider-tk083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:03:52 (GMT)
Patricia:
Honest it was not the mention of wine but hello to all.
- ip82.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:04:00 (GMT)
Ridy:
Take it from a one-woman wrecking crew -- I've demolished a couple of Beetles in my time and told my kids to stay away from them. Give me a Volvo or a Mercedes anytime! Please!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:04:18 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, what magic?
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:04:26 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie Rabuse: How do you know my cousins, Werner and Trudy Lackner? Do you live by them?
- A020-0971.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:04:48 (GMT)
Eddie :
Chicago Franz. Are you a Volvo Dealer? Do you deliver?
- spider-tk083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:05:30 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Trix,
you had their phone numbers a few years ago when you talked to both of them. they finally finished a bio of their father, who had started his own auto bio. they did it for Maridi. I believe it will be published in the Zeitung?
- ashdial-217.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:06:31 (GMT)
Franz:
Hi Eddie, that's what they say I am.
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:06:56 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
oh, the Mausser were from Altlag. Moved to Cleveland, then moved back to the austria(?) area.
- ashdial-217.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:07:28 (GMT)
Eddie :
Margaret,they are good friends with my brother-in-law Joe Scheschareg.
- spider-tk083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:07:29 (GMT)
Ridy:
Holly ~
Does Aurelia read English at all?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:07:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, the charisma. The ability to keep Margaret in the chat room.
Hello, Patricia!
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:07:38 (GMT)
Trix:
OK intelligent crew. Here we go: What are you - we doing to record the oral histories of Gottscheers in our areas? If nothing, WHY NOT? I say this because in the last 2 days I have learned of the death of two friends, both from the Moschnitze area and both friends of my father. One is Adolf Petschauer who lived on Vancouver Island the other is Albin Samida, a longtime staff member of the Gottscheer organization in New York and now of NJ. To quote Dr. Jim: another link to the past gone. This is so important and needs to be done. Can we?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:08:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, can you tell me the family of the Altlag Maussers? Perhaps they are connected with Franz.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:08:42 (GMT)
Trix:
Excellent new nickname: Charisma Franz. Don't need Chicago anymore. Doesn't count. Not important. We have Charisma Franz now.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:09:55 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Eddie: Small world isn't it. Will mention you to Werner, when I email him next time. How fun!
- A020-0971.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:10:00 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, one day you will have to pass on your wisdom.
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:10:14 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
aurelia reads and writes wonderful english. she has a better grasp on spelling than I do.
there was also a Wrinskelle from Krapflern that was listed in the Zeitung that passed.
- ashdial-217.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:10:44 (GMT)
Trix:
Holly: Thank you for reminding me. Time to dig, find it and call. My inquiring mind needs to know all they did and enjoyed and saw.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:10:46 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must log off, charisma or no. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- A020-0971.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:11:55 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
ok Franz,
do you have a Frankie or Herbert Mausser left over in Europe?
- ashdial-217.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:12:09 (GMT)
Trix:
Gute Nacht Margaret. Schlaf gut!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:12:45 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Patricia ~
Have the kiddies recovered? What is summer like where you are?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:13:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Margaret. Nice to chat with you. Say hello to KC.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:13:34 (GMT)
Trix:
JBG - if you are following the exchanges welcome. Hope you had a great weekend.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:13:43 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Oh trix,
I can give it to you. I just wanted to remind you that you had talked to both. My MIL Aurelia is very hard of hearing so you might have a difficuld time communicating with her.
I will send you there numbers. gus has alot of information fresh from his trip.
- ashdial-217.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:14:15 (GMT)
Patricia:
Trix I spoke with Maria Fink this week and she is convinced we are related. I am sending her a copy of my line so she can verify the connection. She is a very nice lady and immediately askes whwn I sas coming to see her. I hope to verify this connection in the next couple of weeks and hopefully see her in person by the end of the year. She is only about 3 hours from me but my schedule is eratic now to say the least. But any way yeah my first living relative from Gottschee.
- ip82.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:14:16 (GMT)
Franz:
Holly, where in Europe? I have a cousin in Ridgewood we called Frankie. I lost contact with him.
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:14:31 (GMT)
Franz:
Good Night Margaret.
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:15:26 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
nope, these Maussers settled in Cleveland, Ohio then moved back to Austria/Slovenia area
- ashdial-217.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:15:37 (GMT)
Eddie :
Jim. I called Eleanor Lukan today to make a dinner reservation for Wednesday. We will then be visiting some of the native Gottscheers up there. Is there any information I can get for you from them?
- spider-tk083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:16:10 (GMT)
Trix:
Pat: Hi. Are you talking about Maria Erker Fink from Neulag? She is a neat lady. Met her and her brothers at our 1997 GHGA annual meeting in Reno.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:16:37 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, you must be talking about the Altlag#12 Maussers. I only have a little bit on that family in my file. At some point the Mische (Franz born1879)side came from Pogrelz but I don't have much more than that.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:17:15 (GMT)
Patricia:
Ridy thanks for asking all has been quite with them since the end of school thank goodness. They are having fun in their pool as it has been so hot here 109 last week!
- ip82.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:17:34 (GMT)
Franz:
Holly, I am afraid I don't know of them.
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:19:21 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Jim,
gus didn't know them from Gottschee. He met them in cleveland, then visits them when he goes to that area.
- ashdial-217.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:19:44 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Patricia, if you can get me your information, I might be able to link you with others as well.
Trix, drew a blank on Maria Erker Fink. Was she originally from Neulag or married into the town via Fink?
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:20:41 (GMT)
Patricia:
Trix yes that is her. It it is so nice to have chatted with her. Helen and I still are stuck with John Markovic but maybe one day we will have a break there as well.
- ip82.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:20:47 (GMT)
Trix:
Patricia: When you say 109° are you talking about hot, hot, hot or is it a dry 109°. Is there humidity connected or? Gosh, we had 92°and it was pretty difficult to handle.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:21:43 (GMT)
Patricia:
Jim she is from house #2
- ip82.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:22:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, can send you the little that I have. The Mische name is interesting from our family trees. Perhaps a connection earlier on.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:22:18 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. JimL Maria Erker wsas born a Fink in Neulag. She has numerous brothers and they live in CA. One also has a home in Tirol, Austria.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:25:17 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, where do I send that Volvo to?
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:25:30 (GMT)
Patricia:
Well we had some humidity but it is never like you get there, usually we are very dry here. When it gets like that I could not care less about the power crisis as I crank up the A.C. I will conserve on nicer days. ha
- ip82.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:25:32 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
sounds good Jim.
gotta tell you all that Aurelia father's religious carving was donated to the Pollandl museum and they already had a carving of a writing desk made by him, donated by someone else.
- ashdial-217.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:26:01 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz - Eddie was the one who asked if you deliver. . .
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:26:42 (GMT)
Eddie :
Franze. Can you give me a good deal on a 2002 Volvo XC wagon?
- spider-tk083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:26:57 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Max Mische's family comes from Altlag too. He has done the entire Familienbuch on the village. It is available through the GHGA.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:27:29 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Hello everyone!
Ridy: We are interested in getting a copy of your book. Please let us know the details.
Eddie: We also have relatives in New York named Scheschareg. Their son, Steven, sings with the opera in Vienna. Are they also related to you?
- mod6.new-philly.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:28:01 (GMT)
Trix:
Don't you just love the Gottscheers doing business on the Plauderzimmer. YES, another first. Now lets make the deal. Of course, either Charisma Franz will have to drive it to NY or Mr. Rabuse will have to fly to Chicago. Can't wait to hear the outcome.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:29:11 (GMT)
Eddie :
Yes Ed and Mary. Steve is my wife's nephew.
- spider-tk083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:29:31 (GMT)
Franz:
Hello Ed & Mary, long time no see.
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:29:42 (GMT)
Trix:
Well, well, well Mr. Rabuse - this is your night. First you are thinking of buying a car and then you learn of long lost relatives. What a night!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:30:14 (GMT)
Ridy:
Ed and Mary --
please send me your mailing address to ridy@home.com
Had problems getting it done at the University and will have to take it to a commercial place to get run off. Probably in a week or so. . .
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:30:52 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi there Ed & Mary,
- ashdial-111.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:31:10 (GMT)
Eddie :
Ridy. I'm willing to meet Franz at the halfway point between NY and Chicago. How 'bout Newark, New Jersey?
- spider-tk083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:31:25 (GMT)
Trix:
Has anyone hear from Marilu? My gosh, where is she? I mean Denver was weeks ago. Marilu - come join us and tell us all about your excursions during the last few weeks.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:31:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix,
Eddie can buy it from Franz but have it delivered by a dealer in New York.
I have the family book. That is where I got that information. I just don't have much other information on Altlag itself. Kate is working on the marriage films so that should help. That is a large task.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:31:36 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Ok, eddie Rabuse,
where is your family line from? You probably already told everyone and i missed it.
- ashdial-111.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:31:54 (GMT)
Ridy:
Eddie - maybe Franz can bring it to Toronto when ya'all come to the CN Tower for dinner!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:33:06 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, I thought you said after wrecking all tose wonderful cars, you would settle for a Volvo or Mercedes anytime. I guess you will only settle for a MERCEDES.
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:33:26 (GMT)
Franz:
Are you buying Ridy?
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:34:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Patricia & Trix,
I think I have Maria ---- parents Eduard Fink and Maria Neschitz. If so the tree goes back to the late 1600s. Much of the information from John Herbst (a distant cousin), Helen Petsche, Gordon Hamilton (from way back at the beginning of my search), and others.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:34:23 (GMT)
Ridy:
Does a driver come with the car of your choice, Franz? You think they'd let me wreck any more cars?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:34:31 (GMT)
Eddie :
Hi Holly. I'm from Haselbach, Untersteirmark and my family is from Nesseltal/Buchel.
- spider-tk083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:34:48 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Eddie: Is your wife a cousin of Adolf Mausser of Ridgewood, N.Y.? If so, she is also a cousin of Ed's.
Franz: We're still checking in from time to time. By the way, our son, Jim, formerly worked for Volvo trucks, where he designed truck cabs.
lyud
- mod6.new-philly.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:34:53 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz -- Eddie says I'm buying when I've sold a million copies of the book!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:35:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
If you come to Newark, give me a call. We can all go to a nice restaurant and enjoy some wine and good cheer.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:35:25 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, I meant are you buying Dinner?
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:36:39 (GMT)
Franz:
Jim, excellent suggestion.
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:39:07 (GMT)
Eddie :
Ed and Mary. No, my wife is not related to Adolf Mausser.
- spider-tk083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:39:31 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
Eddie, \
Buchel #4?
- ashdial-111.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:39:41 (GMT)
Ridy:
Yes Franz - Eddie suggested I buy everybody dinner at the top of the CN Tower in Toronto when I've sold a million copies. Whether that it in our next lifetime or twenty or so lifetimes in the future, who knows?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:40:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, just a jump back to one of your questions --- the past histories could be gotten by a well designed questionnaire concerning dates and names, however, the verbal histories with descriptions of people, places, things, and events probably need to be taped (audio or both audio and visual). However, the questions for the verbal histories should be thought out ahead of time.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:40:52 (GMT)
Patricia:
Jim I hope to get a web site up in the next year. First I need to get it all transfered onto a program and go from there. My niece just has volunteered to help me with all things computer. She is in her final year at college and is just fascinated with out new found heritage.
- ip82.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:42:00 (GMT)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Eddie: Sorry, we were hoping we'd found another good Gottscheer cousin! Ed met Erica Scheschareg at the Treffen in Cleveland a couple summers ago. Her grandmother and Ed's grandmother were sisters from Komutzen. We also met Adolph and Maria Mausser there.
- mod6.new-philly.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:43:12 (GMT)
Franz:
Ridy, think positive. All the Gottscheers on line will buy a few thousend and then re-sell them at a huge mark-up.
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:43:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Holly, Rabuse from Nesseltal#10 and Stalzer from Buchl#11. I had a good deal of information on Rabuse but the Stalzer line ended with a Karl Stalzer married to a Margaretha Meditz. Do you have anything in that house?
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:43:29 (GMT)
Eddie :
Holly, my mother was born in Buchel #11. She was the sister of Karl J. Stalzer whom (who?) you probable know.
- spider-tk083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:44:01 (GMT)
Trix:
Well, whats the deal on the Volvo? Just left you for a few minutes to read through 9 e-mails. What a great evening of conversing! Am proud of all the great contributions. A good end to a hot day. Lets keep going.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:44:18 (GMT)
Eddie :
Ed and Mary. I have enough cousins! My Christmas Card list is already too long!
- spider-tk083.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:45:55 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
thanks Jim and Eddie,
I will check my records to see what I can come up with.
- ashdial-111.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:47:45 (GMT)
Trix:
Agree with your comments Dr. Jim. A questionnaire would be a good way to go. If anyone wants to pursue an interview the GHGA has an excellent guide. Come to think of the information could be used on the questionnaire too. It just needs to be done.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:48:26 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim -
just wondering -- are you an oenophile or an oncologist or both?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:49:08 (GMT)
Trix:
Mr. Rabuse: When you go to Lukan's this week please greet Eleanor and tell her we are looking forward to next June, the location of the 2002 GHGA annual meeting. If you have never been to Lukan's you should. It's a very nice Gottscheer resort with excellent Gottscheer cuisine. By the way, my brother Karl, wife Emma and family are going there next weekend.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:50:43 (GMT)
Franz:
I hate to leave this site, however I celebrated too much over the weekend and tomorrow morning stars another day,therefor Good Night my Friends. Gueatei Nocht aue, et lusset the bonzn beissn.
- 1Cust50.tnt10.chiega.da.uu.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:51:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, a diagnostic and interventional radiologist by trade, but I do like to sip a good wine or beer now and then.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:51:13 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz, Güatei Nucht.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:52:19 (GMT)
Ridy:
Oh Franz -- I haven't heard that expression in over a century! Gütei Nocht!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:52:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Eddie, please give my regards to Eleanor and tell her that I will be calling those people on the list in the near future.
Good night, Franz. I like Chicago Franz better.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:52:52 (GMT)
Holly Leers Droese:
I gotta go too. Have to practice my dance steps for tomorrow. Take care all.
- ashdial-111.suite224.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:53:16 (GMT)
Eddie :
Goodnight, Chicago Franz.
- spider-mtc-ti042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:53:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Eddie, concerning any other interested Gottscheers, can you give them my email address. Would be interested in touching base.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:54:01 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good night everybody! It's been fun as usual. . .
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:54:17 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy: Interesting how differently we pronounce the words. I always heard it said that the Moschnitzer and the Londnarae had different pronounciations. Quite intriguing considering how small the region was. What counts, of course, is that we all understand each other.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:55:10 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
To my chat room buddies. Time to go. Holly, good luck with the dancing. I like dancing but can't learn fixed steps worth a darn. I go out there and hope I don't shake the house down.
- spider-mtc-tj072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:55:45 (GMT)
Patricia:
Trix off the subject but has anyone ever compiled a Gottschee cookbook?? It would be nice to have one where people donated recipes and maybe a story or two along with a recipe.
- ip82.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:55:50 (GMT)
Trix:
Well, time to call it a night too. Thanks for the good conversations. Enjoyed you all. Have a GREAT week. Holly, you continue to be in our thoughts and prayers. I vote for Chicago Franz too. Everyone stay well!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:57:05 (GMT)
Eddie :
Ok Jim. I'll mention you to them and encourage them to get in touch with you.
- spider-mtc-ti042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:57:20 (GMT)
Trix:
Patricia: Albert Belay of New York has an excellent cookbook. I use it all the time. However, someone else mentioned the same idea in Denver. Maybe it was Marily. It could be a wonderful addition to preserving our Gottscheer heritage particularly, as you say, it could include photos, brief stories etc. It is definitely worth pursuing. THANK YOU.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 02:59:19 (GMT)
Eddie :
Patricia. There is a cookbook 'Hoimischai Khoscht' compiled by Albert Belay in New York..
- spider-mtc-ti042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 03:00:28 (GMT)
Eddie :
Trix. You beat me to it!
- spider-mtc-ti042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 03:01:12 (GMT)
Patricia:
I think it would be a real treasure to have. I have no idea whatsover as to the regional food. I have heard everyone speaking of various items but am so sad to say I do not know what most of them are.
- ip82.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 03:02:57 (GMT)
Patricia:
In the mean time I will see if I can order the one you mention through Barnes and Noble. Thanks Trix and Eddie
- ip82.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 03:04:20 (GMT)
Eddie :
Patricia. Albert Belay's e-mail address is in the GHGA Membership List. Send him a note if you are interested in acquiring the book.
- spider-mtc-ti042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 03:06:22 (GMT)
Patricia:
Eddie thanks I will do that.
- ip82.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 03:07:49 (GMT)
Patricia:
Well I need to wind the kiddies down for the night. Take care and thanks for a nice evening.
- ip82.sacramento14.ca.pub-ip.psi.net - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 03:08:57 (GMT)
Eddie :
Goodnight all.
- spider-mtc-ti042.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 09, 2001 at 03:11:36 (GMT)
Trix:
Interesting request in the July 2001 issue of the Gottscheer Zeitung (printed in Klagenfurt, Austria). It says:
Ingrid E. Schatz (assuming from Europe) is looking for relatives or former neighbors to her grandfather Valentin Kump, born July 18, 1900 or 1901 in Rodine. Even though he died at the age of 26 it appears that he had a brother who emigrated to America. If you have any information regarding the family of Mr. Kump from Rodine, who came to North America please e-mail her at: Ingrid.schatz@chello.at or me.
Thank you.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Tuesday, July 10, 2001 at 22:12:59 (GMT)
Trix:
I am looking for information of Edward Petronovitsch, born Feb. 13, 1924 in Lienfeld #41. I belief his father was Alois and he may have had a brother by the name of Josef. If anyone knows anything about Mr. Petronovitsch please e-mail me at wyants@mlecmn.net. THANK YOU.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Tuesday, July 10, 2001 at 22:37:53 (GMT)
Richard:
I have finally found a computer that works!!! I have missed the Plauderzimmer each Sunday evening. I feel as though I can not contribute much to the Zimmer, but I certainly do receive a great deal!
In the Cook Islands 12 year old Bryan and I were PADI scuba certified with all of the swimming and diving in the ocean. Because Bryan was so young, the local newspaper wrote an article about him.
In Fiji due to the political unrest, we ended up taking a cruise amoung the Yasawa Islands in order to get off the mainland. There were several political murders while we were there. There is great friction between the Fijians and Indians who were brought over by the British 125 years ago to work the sugar cane. The Fijian people are Melanesians and are such beautiful people. For a week we snorkeled and did some diving off the boat, a small boat of 500 tons with only 18 other passengers - mostly New Zealanders. We visited several remote villages and a large grammar school (ages 6 to 13 all in blue and white uniforms). Again I must say the Fijians are beautiful people.
- intern41.lnk.telstra.net - Wednesday, July 11, 2001 at 01:42:54 (GMT)
Richard:
Continued- We are now in the Northern Territory, in the dead center of Australia. It takes a good 3 days of driving from the east coast through the Outback - some 1800 miles - through land that is dead except for snakes, kangaroos, feral camels etc. Aust. is a rather lethal place: every thing that moves seems to be poisonous. They either bite, sting or eat you up i.e. the crocodiles. But still there is great peace here in the Outback that few Americans have ever encountered. At night with no clouds, the sky is just overwhelmingly clear. And the stars are so numerous and crystal clear. The silence is deafening. It is indeed a different world. Bryan has rented a bike and is visiting the locals all over town. He is probably right now where the children are, in the local school telling everyone about the US.
I have reviewed the chat in several prior sessions of the Plauderzimmer. I know the meeting in Denver was a success. I would like to have been there.
The Internet never ceases to amaze me. Perhaps the high techies will create a future internet that can instantly deliver products through the internet. Then maybe I will be able to taste Sophia's speciality, Apfelstruedel! I've not tasted potica. Best Wishes to those very nice people in the Gottscheer Plauderzimmer.
- intern41.lnk.telstra.net - Wednesday, July 11, 2001 at 02:01:02 (GMT)
Trix:
Greetings Richard! We have missed you and your reports. I have received numerous e-mails wondering if I had heard from you. Frankly, was beginning to wonder but happy to know that all is A-1 ok. Interesting message you posted. There are problems all over the world aren't there? Wouldn't it be great if we all got along? Reminds me one of my favorite sayings: There is nothing wrong with the world except the people in it. How sad.
Richard, you will be pleased to know that we have had very, very warm weather in Minnesota but also other regions of the land. In fact we had 92°F yesterday. We are anxious for rain. I need a good, good soaking so that I can weed our garden. My poor mother is probably turning over in her grave saying: Didn't I teach you anything about weeding? She did but I guess I decided other things in life are important too, like chatting in the Plauderzimmer.
Richard and family, we send you greetings and best wishes. Enjoy your days and safe journey home. When will that be?
On a sad note - we have lost 8 friends during the last 2 weeks. They included 3 special Gottscheers: Rosa Schager from Maierle; Adolf Petschauer from Tappelwerch by Tschermoschnitz; Albin Samida from the same village; then there was an 11 year old boy; a 40 year old college student; the wife of our DFL chair; a member of our Parkinsons Support group and the 25 year old son of our senator who broke his neck in a swimming accident. Such tragedy - such sadness.
Take care and please check in again. Smile.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Wednesday, July 11, 2001 at 02:58:15 (GMT)
Trix:
Can anybody tell me how many houses the village of Rodine had? Thanks!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Friday, July 13, 2001 at 17:51:27 (GMT)
Marion Rositz Ellmo:
Please lead me in the right direction to find information about my ancestors. Simon and Maria Roschitsch and possibly other family members, parent or siblings. Thanks so much for this website
- spider-tk022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:25:34 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all had a good week. Trix, have you logged on yet??
- A010-1483.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:25:58 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Richard: IF you get my message, I want you and your family to be careful. I think the Crocodile Dundee movies have made us think Australia is like a bad movie. Take care!
- A010-1483.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:37:19 (GMT)
Trix:
Welcome Marion. We will certainly try to help you. Margaret, Hi. How are you?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:37:31 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone.
- spider-ti033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:39:44 (GMT)
Trix:
It is time for a new name for Richard. He has moved on and now it is time for us to move on. It is Sir Richard now. Pay attention to Margaret's message, ok? Hope all is well down under.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:39:53 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello, Marion...
Do you have the place of birth and the birthdate of the people you mention? A maiden name for Maria Roschitsch? Several of our participants in the Plauderzimmer are experts at finding Gottscheer ancestors.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:40:01 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: I'm fine. Seems like you and I email almost every day. Wish I could meet you in the future. Are you far from Fargo, ND, where our younger son lives. Our daughter-in-law's parents live in Nevis, MN near Walker and Ackley.
- A010-1483.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:40:14 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Welcome back, Marilu!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:41:10 (GMT)
Bill Gregory:
Are details available yet for the group tour to Gottschee next June? My wife and son (Gottscheer descendents) and I Hope to go.
- dialup-223-treats.whitelion.net - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:42:27 (GMT)
Marion Rositz Ellmo:
I was told that Simon Roschitsch was born in 1865 in Hungry. Maria maiden name was Wittreich she was born about 1875.
- spider-tk022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:42:32 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Everyone: Trix is sending me a form for an oral history. I've gotten Marie Wolf to agree to a taping session--maybe 2 or 3, depending on how she feels. Am excited about this.My cousin, Albert Jonke, did an oral history on his dad, but it was really confusing because his father was 80 something when they started.
- A010-1483.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:44:28 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
HI Ridy and Trix I returned home Monday night and it is good to be home.
- spider-ti033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:44:34 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Marion - Wittreich is definitely a Gottscheer name. Any idea where she was born? What village?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:44:44 (GMT)
Trix:
Well, well, well Marilu. It is about time. Where have you been and what have you been doing? Nice to have you aboard.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:44:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening to everyone.
- spider-wq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:44:58 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I was in Nebraska and Minnesota for two weeks after the Denver conference, so it seems I was gone for a long time. I missed the Sunday night chats!
- spider-ti033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:46:24 (GMT)
Marion Rositz Ellmo:
I have a part of a shipline ticket with Reig on it but I don't know if that is where she lived.
- spider-tk022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:48:29 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Guten Abend, Jim! Do you have any Wittreichs in your data base?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:49:14 (GMT)
Trix:
Mr. Gregory: Thanks for your inquiry. We plan to leave June 12, 2002 and return June 26, 2002. Will fly to Frankfurt and on to Laibach (Ljubljana). First 2 nights there; on Saturday, June 15 on to the City of Gottschee; 3 nights there, then on to the eastern region and the spa village of Dol. Toplice for 6 nights. Our final 2 will be in the beautiful area of Bled. Are waiting for the brouchures and costs. Feel free to check in with me from time to time. Thanks and look forward to meeting you.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:50:25 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
That's probably Rieg, Marion. One of the most attractive places in Gottschee, I'm told.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:50:42 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I am busy printing books!
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:50:49 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
All: Must really log off. No Franz tonight. Auf wiedersehen. Alles gut.
- A010-1483.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:51:40 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
'Bye Margaret - have a good week.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:52:13 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Ridy and Dr. Jim. Hope you both had a great day. Trix
Margaret I live 1 hour northeast of Brainerd. Maybe one of these times we can meet. Would be very nice indeed.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:53:23 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Ridy and Dr. Jim. Hope you both had a great day. Trix
Margaret I live 1 hour northeast of Brainerd. Maybe one of these times we can meet. Would be very nice indeed.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:53:35 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, have ten or so Maria Wietreichs or Wittreichs in the file but none that fit an 1875 birthdate. I don't have much information on the Rieg parish. I did check the Ellis Island information and had a Maria Wittreich born abt 1874 coming over in 1909 at the age of 35. Her residence was Hinterberg which is in the Rieg parish.
- spider-wq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:54:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Trix. Hello Ridy, Bill, Marilu. Have a good night, Margaret. Trix have you tried the Ellis Island site today. I have been locked out.
- spider-wq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:55:36 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Thanks Jim --
The question really comes from Marion Rositz Ellmo, who is on with us this evening
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:56:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, do any of the trips allow for extended stomping through the forests going towards the destroyed villages? I am more interested in those areas.
- spider-wq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:56:45 (GMT)
Trix:
Am still looking for the number of houses in the village of Rodine. Any ideas anybody?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:57:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Marion. Both Roschitsch and Wittreich were fairly common surnames in Gottschee and the surrounding areas. I agree with Ridy, Reig is most likely Rieg. There were quite a few Wittreichs in that parish.
- spider-wq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:58:15 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, perhaps George Plautz would know the answer about Rodine. I think he has some information about that area.
- spider-wq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:59:15 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, I have the family book for Rodine, but have not gotten to the family history center to check for you yet. I might have time on Wednesday.
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:59:28 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: I think we can look at all options on the trip. There is always a chance that you could connect with a local person who would know the area very well and be able to lead the way. Just let me know what you are thinking about and we will proceed from there.
No, I have not visited Ellis Island today. Very interesting what you are saying. Maybe I should leave, give it a try and return. That is just what I am going to do.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 01:59:50 (GMT)
Trix:
Marilu, sounds great. Who we are looking for is a Valentin Kump born in house No. 6, I am thinking rather than 60 as indicated in an e-mail from Graz. I don't think Rodine had 60 houses. Any help will be appreciated.
Dr. Jim: Good idea about Mr. Plautz. Will check that too.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:02:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, do you know if the Alpine club has an email address?
- spider-wq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:03:05 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I don't know about the Club itself. . . I'll ask Sonja. Her brother is the current President.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:04:12 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, I dont think Rodine had 60 houses in it either.
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:04:33 (GMT)
Bill Gregory:
Trix, thanks for the info. We are really looking forward to our first trip to Nana's (Paula Jeschelnig) homeland. Auf wiedersehen.
- dialup-223-treats.whitelion.net - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:05:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, I believe Rodine had more than 60 houses. The Stockendorf marriage file has an individual or two with house numbers in the sixties.
- spider-wq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:05:58 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I will see what I find out on Wednesday. If I find the birth record I will let you know, cause I have them also.
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:07:20 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Do you have an appromiate age or birth date?
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:07:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I think Trix was given the birthdate of July 18, 1900 for Valentin Kump.
- spider-wq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:09:56 (GMT)
Trix:
Mr. Gregory: Will add your name to the list for brochures. They should be completed soon. Your main village, I gather, is Rieg? Great town. Spent some quality hours there in 1999 for the dedication and mass of the brand new church. Imagine have 50 priests, the Bishop and many leaders in the procession along with a great polka band and dancers. It was quite a day not to mention the 5000 from near and far that attended.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:09:57 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim. Could not access Ellis Island site either. Hey, their problem. Both of us can't be wrong! It's called positive thinking.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:11:44 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ok Jim, I have the birth records thru 1900.
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:11:55 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Marion, do you know when Simon and Maria were married? Do you know the names of any of their siblings and relatives? Sometimes we can piece things together with additional bits of information.
- spider-wq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:15:20 (GMT)
Trix:
Regarding Rodine. Dr. Jim, you might be right. I find house numbers 16, 34, 58 and 65 so far. I have a hard time believing that this was the case but will definitely check further.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:17:23 (GMT)
Trix:
Before I forget - anyone going to the annual North American Gottscheer Treffen hosted by the Gottscheers in New York? Will be a good time if anybody is thinking about it.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:18:47 (GMT)
Marion Rositz Ellmo:
I don't know when they were married nor any of Simon's siblings. I do know other family names Agnitsch, Sager, Zekoll, Anderkohl and Herbst. My father was born in 1897 and he had an older sister so I would think they were married about 1893
- spider-tk022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:19:36 (GMT)
Trix:
OK Chicago Franz, time to get with it! How about Mr. Rabuse and his cuisine report at Lukan's in Hawley. Where are thee?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:20:00 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy, how is life treating you? And the weather?
We had 2½ inches of rain early this morning. Much needed too. It has been very dry. It is heading East so be prepared for a good soaking.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:23:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The weather in NJ has been excellent. Ridy is welcome to the rain but we would like only a long shower or two.
- spider-wq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:24:48 (GMT)
Marion Rositz Ellmo:
I have to leave now, but if you have any information I will check the messages tomorrow. Thanks for your time and help
- spider-tk022.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:26:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Going to sign off for now. May check back in later.
- spider-wq061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:27:04 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Rain? Oh, I hope so! We had so much of it a while back but now everything is looking very dry. . . Spent an hour sitting out on the deck today, with just the squirrels and the NYTimes. Heaven. First time this year!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:27:33 (GMT)
Trix:
Marion, before you leave I would like to extend an invitation for you to consider joining the Gottscheer Heritage and Genealogy Assn. (GHGA) a non-profit association established "to preserve the history, culture and family records of Gottschee". You may e-mail me at: wyants@mlecmn.net or check the GHGA web site. We would be honored by your membership. We do good work.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:28:05 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy, hope all is well in the health department.
Good night Marion and Dr. Jim. Have a great week.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:29:31 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Yes, thanks Trix -- even Caroline is back on her feet.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:31:50 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
So, I guess everyone is signing off for tonite.
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:39:46 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Marilu --
Do you ever use your Instant Messenger feature? Eddie Rabuse and I were on yesterday when you briefly fleeted in and out. . . . I had not used it before.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:43:25 (GMT)
Trix:
I guess you are right Marilu. Have a good week and I look forward to hearing from you.
Take care everybody!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:43:58 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes Ridy I use it all the time, I am aol
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:44:43 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy: how does that work?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:44:49 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
what name do you sign in on
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:45:20 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Still not sure how it works - - - a window suddenly popped up on my screen when I was on the computer and Eddie and I proceeded to have a one-on-one chat
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:46:08 (GMT)
Trix:
OK, I think we need a lesson on it. Somebody, please, keep it simple though. Thanks.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:47:15 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
If you do not have aol, you have to download the program to use it, so you evidently have it installed. It comes automatic with aol.
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:47:17 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I think it's RidyMaria@Netscape.com but my normal e-mail address is ridy@home.com
Is that what you mean?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:47:32 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy do you use your email name in it
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:47:48 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I will do both and see what happens
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:48:15 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Marilu -
I don't know! But I just called up the little icon for it and it's headed Ridy Skyrme. I must pay more attention before I zap it next time.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:50:15 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I will do both and see what happens
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:50:30 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy you have to have the Instant Message open for it too work.
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:51:02 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
well call up that little icon again
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:51:30 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ok ridy send me a message
- spider-ntc-td084.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:54:09 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I did - but it says I'm over the limit!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 16, 2001 at 02:54:38 (GMT)
Franz:
Marilu, I will be passing thru Canon City on Friday July 20th sometime midafternoon. I plan to stop by your famous watering hole and hope to find some good Cal. Red. If I remember, you mentioned once the Belvidere Inn or Motel. I will check the board later or tomorrow.
- ACA48C9F.ipt.aol.com - Wednesday, July 18, 2001 at 22:42:37 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Franz...I will leave special instructions that if I am not at the store, they are to call me so I can come out. It will only take me 5 minutes from my house. Am anxious to meet you. At the intersection of hiway 50 and hiway 115, you take a left turn, which will take you south. It is about 2 miles from that cornor. Phone number at store is 275-8810 if you need to call.
- spider-ntc-ta021.proxy.aol.com - Friday, July 20, 2001 at 04:13:00 (GMT)
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- CPE-61-9-132-11.vic.bigpond.net.au - Friday, July 20, 2001 at 05:57:40 (GMT)
Trix:
Greetings to one and all from a very, very hot Minnesota. Temperatures in the 90's and high humidity. Send cooler weather our way please.
Here is an interesting site:
http://www.google.com/search?q=slovenian+maps
Try it - terrific. Talk to you later.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 00:59:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening to everyone. Trix is trying to send her hot weather in this direction.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:15:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz or Marilu, did you make the connection on Friday?
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:18:00 (GMT)
Eddie Rabuse:
Hi Trix and Jim. Another beautiful day in the NY area. Almost too cool for a summer day but I hear the heat is coming!
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:27:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Eddie, let's not wish for the heat. It will be here soon enough. My tomato plants and zucchini might like a little blast of hot sun but that means more watering.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:28:44 (GMT)
Eddie:
We just came back from our 4 mile walk along the beach on Long Island Sound. It's clear enough to see Ct.
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:28:53 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:29:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
My wife and I just went on a walk through the neighborhood. Nothing as pretty as the sound but enjoyable. Very peaceful.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:30:42 (GMT)
Eddie:
My tomato plants just have leaves! They don't look well, but the beans and cukes are doing terrific.
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:30:44 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, I met Franz and his wife Friday. They are the very nicest people. We chatted for almost an hour.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:30:59 (GMT)
Eddie:
Hi Marilu.
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:31:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Marilu. How was your week? Did Franz get there?
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:32:21 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
It was wonderful meeting another person from the chat room.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:32:44 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Did the liquid of the god's flow into the streets?
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:33:48 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
And it is hot, hot in Colorado also. Not much for humidity here tho, thank heavens. It is clouding up, but so far no rain falling. It did cool things off a little, just to have the clouds.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:34:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
In vino veritas.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:34:12 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, Franz bought some wine, but of course it is an off sale store, so we did not sample anything. The next time he comes out this way, we will have to do a little better planning, and spend more time together.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:35:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Nice to hear about meeting someone from the chat room. I have met some people that I email with during the summer. Interesting to see them after looking at only typed messages.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:35:31 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes it was wonderful meeting people in Denver at the meeting also. Trix was the only one from the chat room.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:37:01 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
And hello Eddie, and where is Ridy?
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:38:16 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, I think you have corresponded with Marge Light. Her son who lives in Colo Springs was in the store Friday morning, on his way rafting, but did not get to met him. He left me a message.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:39:49 (GMT)
:
Marilu, she's probably 'watching'. Come on in Ridy!
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:40:17 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Yes, I have emailed with Marge. I don't think I ever figured out what house she came from. I think it might have been in your neck of the Gottscheer woods.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:41:14 (GMT)
Eddie:
Marilu, I was reading about Canon City today. Did you ever cross the Royal Gorge Bridge? It sounds impressive.
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:41:52 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, how is your Ellis Island research going with Gottschee names. I never did find the two I was hoping to find. A Maria Peschel and Maria Plautz. Several Maria Peschel's but not the right one.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:42:36 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I don't think Ridy is lurking in the tall grass. She usually just jumps right in. Trix should be around at some point.
Eddie, have you done any fishing? From boat or shore fishing?
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:43:10 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Eddie, I have been across the bridge many times, was out there again last week with company. It is 8 miles from town.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:43:29 (GMT)
Eddie:
No Jim. I'm not a fisherman. Don't like putting those squiggly worms on a hook!
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:44:56 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The file is now quite large. Almost 14000 names. The problem is that there are so many names that are misspelled. Some of them so badly that it is hard to tell who they are. Then some people have no place names listed and still others have place names that are even more mangled than the surnames.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:45:07 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, I discovered the same thing.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:45:59 (GMT)
Eddie:
Jim, do you have any information on the 'MICHELITSCH' name?
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:46:00 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Eddie, you could just use a lure. I am not much of a fisherman either but I do like to go once or twice a year.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:46:05 (GMT)
Eddie:
Jim. You talked me into it!
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:47:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, Barry Deutschmann has been finding some of the most bizarre spellings as he looks at the ship manifests. There were over ten Jaklitsches spelled as Taklitsch.
Eddie, I have some information on that surname but not much. Will help if I can.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:47:41 (GMT)
Eddie:
Marilu, ever take that train ride in the Gorge or take the Tram?
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:48:57 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi to everyone. I have had a tough time joining you. Must be the heat - it certainly can't be me, can it? Great to see you all chatting away and sharing. Hope everyone is happy and staying cool. OK Mr. RAbuse, I have beautiful greens on the cucumbers but you know what? I don't think they will produce the Gurke. Is that possible? What a bummer. We did our first potatoes tonight with our own Kohlrabi. Delicious is the word.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:48:58 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have tried about 30 different spellings for both Peschel and Plautz and still came up with nothing.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:49:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Picked my first cucumbers the other day and a couple of cherry tomatoes today. The zucchini plants are of good size but no zukes. Maybe I should eat the leaves before the woodchuck on anabolic steroids gets them.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:51:01 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Eddie, yes I have done both. It took me until last year to ride the tram however, and it was a piece of cake. I have been on the train twice, and go down to the bottom on the incline every time I am out there.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:51:15 (GMT)
Eddie:
Trix, if you like I could send you some 'gurken'.
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:51:21 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi Trix, glad to "see" you.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:52:06 (GMT)
Eddie:
Trix. Those maps were great. I love geography and I never met a map I didn't like!
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:52:48 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, sounds great. Do you take any pictures?
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:53:09 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Trix, don't know if you checked the first of the chat, but I met Franz Mausser Friday.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:53:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Kohlrabi---- is that some type of Minnesotan vegetable? :) I have never had it. Isn't it in the cabbage family?
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:54:17 (GMT)
Eddie:
Marilu, if we ever go out West, we won't miss the train ride!
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:54:18 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
yes, Jim I have several pictures from over the years of the Gorge.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:54:21 (GMT)
Trix:
OK Dr. Jim, so tell me, what the deal with the Zuccini's. Is it going to be that kind of a year?
Richard if you are on, hope Australia is treating you well. And Ridy, time to take a break from the book. Join us. And, what happened to Chicago Franz?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:54:34 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
The train ride is fun. Jim, I grew up on kolhrabi also...in Minnesota
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:55:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Don't know what is going on with the zucchini. Maybe we need a little more heat but you have promised to send some our way already.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:55:54 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, Franz is in Colorado!
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:56:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
How do you prepare the kohlrabi?
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:56:47 (GMT)
Eddie:
Jim, we need the hot weather and then some water to make those zucchini grow.
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:57:54 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, we always ate our kohlrabi raw, sliced. It is delicious, and yes a member of the cabbage family.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:57:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Eddie, back to Michelitsch --- do you have a question or will you email it?
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:58:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I notice that you, Marilu, and Ridy were chat rooming it the other day. For some reason, I don't get kicked off of AOL on this computer so it can be on for hours without my getting kicked off even if I am not at home.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 01:59:17 (GMT)
Eddie:
I'll probably just e-mail you when I get some more information.
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:00:11 (GMT)
Trix:
Actually Kohlrabi is a Gottscheer and Austrian vegetable. It could be in the cabbage family. I just know it is in the Wyant family.
I'll take your Gurken Mr. Rabuse.
So you never met a map you didn't like ha? But I agree, that is quite a collection. Mr. Jaklitsch does absolutely beautiful work.
I am having trouble getting to the beginning too Marilu but knew that you were going to meet Chicago Franz. Is he still traveling or what?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:00:25 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I think I will steer clear of kohlrabi. I am not a big cabbage/brussel sprouts fan. Coleslaw and sauerkraut but that is about it.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:00:35 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Eddie, okay with me.
Well, if it Gottscheer, I will have to look into a little further. Have to get back to my roots even if it hurts a little.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:01:54 (GMT)
Eddie:
jim, did you get an invitation to join in that chat room, or didn't you see it?
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:02:01 (GMT)
Trix:
Kohlrabi is delicious. I cook it in salt water then add a little pepper and butter. But, I like it raw too. Goes wonderful with a grilled steak. You can buy them in the stores particularly this time of the year.
So is Chicago Franz on vacation?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:03:16 (GMT)
Trix:
Eddie - did the Michelitsch come from the western most part of Gottschee i.e. Suchen?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:05:05 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, Franz is in Colorado until Tuesday.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:05:08 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Yes, I saw the invitation but much later on. I wasn't at the computer when you sent it.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:06:01 (GMT)
Eddie:
Jim, I'm not sure. That's why I need to find out some more information before I e-mail you.
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:06:20 (GMT)
Trix:
Want to remind everybody of a number of Gottscheer events coming up. I think August 16 or so is the annual Gottscheer picnic in Cleveland; Labor Day weekend, of course, is the North American Gottscheer Treffen hosted by the New York Gottscheers and on Sept. 9 will be the Schlachtfest hosted by the Gottscheer in Walden upstate New York. Hope some of you can attend one or the other. They are a long way from Minnesota.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:08:23 (GMT)
Eddie:
Hey Trix. Is there anything you don't know. You're amazing!
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:09:55 (GMT)
Trix:
Question to all of you: About a month or so ago was there a brief discussion about exploring the possibilities of collection oral histories of the Gottscheers who came to America after WWII? Does anyone remember anything about this? Does anyone have any thoughts on the matter? Could it be done? Should it be done or is it feasible to do it? How would one control the length of the submission; the accuracy of it etc etc. As you all know we have all expressed our concerns about the Gottscheers dying weekly and with them goes so much important knowledge. When I think about the time passing so quickly it makes me very sad. Please think about the pros and cons on this possibility!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:11:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The Treffen is a no go unless something changes but the Walden picnic is a longshot possibility. Eleanor Kump-Zach has invited me to the monthly meeting at the Gottscheer Hall in Ridgewood. I may take her up on the offer for a time or two.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:13:17 (GMT)
Trix:
Eddie - what you don't know is that there are a lot of areas that I know nothing about. This just happens to be one that captures my interest and therefore I pay attention.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:13:38 (GMT)
Eddie:
Trix. Don't be so modest!
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:14:42 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Where does Mrs. Zach come from? I mean is she a Gottscheerin? Of course, she is, with a name like Kump how could she not be?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:14:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, I think the GHGA has a format for that. You would obviously need some type of recording medium (tape, video)but where should the information be stored. Since it is oral history, I don't think accuracy is initially needed. It is just important to get the information down. The time is well past for the first generation of Gottscheers that came to the United States but it is probably passing for those that came over at the turn of the century. That is the group that should be concentrated on. Still it is a difficult task. Much harder than a questionnaire :) .
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:16:59 (GMT)
Trix:
Forgot, then there is the International Slovenian Genealogy Conference in September in Ljubljana. I am truly impressed with this gathering and hope it will be very successful. The GHGA has 3 officers representing the association and at least one other member but there certainly could be more.
And, don't forget the DISCOVER GOTTSCHEE TOUR 2002 - June 12 to 26, 2002. A good time guaranteed!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:17:10 (GMT)
Ridy:
Good evening, everybody!
Just got home and see you are still tratsching!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:18:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Eleanor is from a Nesseltal Kump line and an Unterdeutschau Stalzer line. I had both of those lines in my file when I met her but she provided the key piece of information to link it all together. She left the picnic with a whole new family tree buzzing along the wires shortly thereafter.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:19:45 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, welcome to the chat room.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:20:43 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Ridy
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:22:39 (GMT)
Eddie:
Hi Ridy. Did you fix the sound on your PC?
- spider-mtc-ti043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:23:06 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: I agree the GHGA has the Oral History Project. The problem is that it is difficult to travel to the areas where the Gottscheers live. There have been a number of individuals very interested in the possibility of collecting the history on the internet rather than having to travel to their respective homes. So far no one has seriously come forward to lead the project but there is interest. I, for one, would love to read the experiences of the Gottscheers after WWII and where in North America they went, what it was like, what work they found and how they adjusted ot the new homeland. I would also like to read about their families. What are they doing, what kind of education did they have etc. When I think of the courage of my own parents, who at the age of 52 and 50 had the guts to come to a new land not knowing a word of English and all they really wanted was the opportunity for a better life. They got it and because of them I got it. I bet if statistics were know the Gottscheers have made many, many contributions to the country which, of course, is what was expected during the process of gaining entry. Oh, well, another project - another time but still very interesting just thinking about it.
I am still working on trying to get a list of all the passengers on our ship from Bremerhafen to New Yorkin 1952. Finally got a form to fill out and mailed it last week. Will be interesting what I learn.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:23:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, just jumping back to Marge Light -- were you able to link her in anywhere.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:24:25 (GMT)
Ridy:
Eddie - I haven't had time to check it out. Been busy cooking.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:25:12 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy - Grüß Dich! How are you?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:25:12 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, at this point the only thing we know is one of her relatives married one of my Underberg relatives. But she has found someone else in her family who may have information for her. I have not heard from her for awhile, about where she is on that.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:26:35 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Oral histories are much more labor and equipment intensive.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:27:27 (GMT)
Trix:
Mr. Rabuse: How is your Volvo doing?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:27:38 (GMT)
Ridy:
Servus Trixie ~
All OK here - but there's so much construction in Toronto during the summer we got lost twice on the way home!!! We've only lived here for 40 years now!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:27:43 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have not done enough on the Sterk family to know a whole lot about them.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:28:07 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I am busy printing my book right now, so any digging is on the back shelf. And then I have to get going on my Underberg family again. My cousin who helped me is patiently waiting for that book also.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:29:59 (GMT)
Eddie:
Trix. Two days in the shop and $1500 later, it's running like a top! Should last me another 11 years!. Thanks.
- spider-tk062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:30:15 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, I should have your book in the mail later this week.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:30:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The Sterks that I have on file came mostly from the southeast section of Gottschee--- Altenmarkt and the surrounding parishes. I think some were in the Tschernembl parish as well. I don't have anything on them but what is in the GHGA marriage records.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:31:16 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, continued good luck with the printing.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:32:21 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes I think there were some in Tschernembl Parish also. And the other line is either Stalzer or Sterbenz, I can never remember which it is, and then have to look it up,
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:32:34 (GMT)
Trix:
Marilu: No rush. I will enjoy it whenever it arrives at Wauknabo. Love all those photos. Need to learn how you do that and what program you use.
Mr. Rabuse - I am so glad about the Volvo! Good decision on your part.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:32:46 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
thanks Jim, It has been fun!
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:33:07 (GMT)
Eddie:
Trix. I took your advice. Now you take my bill!
- spider-tk062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:34:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
My fingers are slowing down and I need to hang a little to stretch out the lower back. Just cranky tonight. See you guys next time. Perhaps I will be on when the next impromptu chat room hits. Have a good week.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:34:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I believe it was Sterbenz. That is what she gave me.
- spider-th053.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:35:08 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night Jim
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:35:21 (GMT)
Trix:
Speaking about Sterk. I have friends in Kocevje, a suburb of Tschernembl that I visit when I am in the region. The mother is still living, but elderly. She used to work in Maierle with my sister Olga, that is how I know her. She is actually Olga's friend but we have gotten to know her son, wife and 2 daughters. Do you suppose there could be a connection here. They live right on the outskirts of Tschernembl. That would be really cool.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:35:29 (GMT)
Ridy:
Aw - just when I finally sat down again! OK - I understand. Good night, Jim.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:35:46 (GMT)
Eddie:
Jim. I will get back to you in a few days.
- spider-tk062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:36:37 (GMT)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Gute Nacht und alles, alles Gute. Hab eine ausgezeichnete Woche.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:37:24 (GMT)
Trix:
OK Ridy, what did you cook? I can taste it!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:37:59 (GMT)
Eddie:
Wow. This is some chat room! English, German, Gottsceerisch,Latin --- I'm impressed!
- spider-tk062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:39:42 (GMT)
Trix:
Just remembered - Margaret - hope all is well in KC and that you are enjoying whatever you are doing and wherever you are at. We missed you.
Mr. Rabuse - do you have an address for Klemmen? I want to send him a copy of the excellent GHGA map of Gottschee showing the names of all villages in both German and Slovenian. Klemmen told me he has trouble remembering the names and would like to learn them. The map would be a great tool for him. If you have it, can you e-mail it please? Danke!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:40:16 (GMT)
Eddie:
The most important word I spelled wrong. Sorry
- spider-tk062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:40:52 (GMT)
Trix:
I am assuming the Latin has to do with vino (Italian)?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:41:00 (GMT)
Ridy:
Unfortunately, Trix, so can I. Too much onion and garlic.
One of those French stews from Julia Child -- delicious! - but not bland enough for yours truly. However, I also made a tenderloin roast with all the trimmings, because my kids wouldn't think it was Sunday without it. Besides, Christopher likes to load up on beef before he goes back to England. He's only home for the weekend, so I took dinner downtown for the 3 of them to save him time. . . . . It was lovely, because he got "Amadeus" for me and I got to watch it on his biiiiiig TV
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:41:13 (GMT)
Trix:
Mr. Rabuse - it doesn't matter we all know what you meant. It's the thought that counts! We are on a roll.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:42:03 (GMT)
Eddie:
Trix. I'll try to find it for you. Be patient!
- spider-tk062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:42:10 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy - your sense of humor is about as good as it gets. I enjoyed that line. Keep it up.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:43:19 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, you cook much more than I do!!! but I did cook a pork roast today so I can make green chili tomorrow. I make a mean green chili!!!
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:43:52 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy: Are you talking about Amadeus, the movie? Quite something isn't it? I loved much about it but so sad too.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:44:35 (GMT)
Eddie:
A lot of cooking talk! Any men in this chat room besides me?
- spider-tk062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:45:37 (GMT)
Trix:
Marilu: did you ever try and pork and beef roast together? The flavor are really marvelous and makes for excellent gravy. Pork and venison or moose is another great combination. One of the Wyant specialties. My favorite is the pork/beef combination.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:45:56 (GMT)
Trix:
Oh, Mr. Rabuse, you can hold your ground. Don't let us intimidate you.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:46:32 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, I have cooked pork and beef together, and you are right. It is delicious!
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:46:51 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
besides, I know men who like to cook! lol
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:47:26 (GMT)
Ridy:
Yes, the movie.... he told me a while back to make a list of movies I want and I had put Amadeus on top of that list, so that's what I got tonight. Now I'll probably be up half the night playing the music from it because the movie is only a teaser. . .
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:47:30 (GMT)
Ridy:
Enough of this cooking talk! After two days of it, I don't want to hear any more about it until next weekend!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:48:34 (GMT)
Eddie:
That's ok Trix. I like hanging around the kitchen.
- spider-tk062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:48:49 (GMT)
Ridy:
Marilu -- the only man I know who likes to cook is my son-in-law, and I keep telling my daughter they should move in with us!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:49:23 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, I know what you mean. I love a man who knows his way around the kitchen! My brother is one of them. He built his own outdoor oven for baking bread. He just finished it and was using it when I was home to Minnesota. The bread is wonderful.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:51:20 (GMT)
Ridy:
I only bake bread in the colder months -- that could mean about 8 months out of the year. But it is nice . . .
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:54:00 (GMT)
Ridy:
Sorry - I didn't mean to turn this into the Martha Stewart chat!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:54:47 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I don't bake much bread because I like to eat it to well..
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:54:59 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, everyone, I think I hear the hottub calling me.
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:57:06 (GMT)
Eddie:
Ok ladies. You made me hungry and it's now 11 P.M. Time for a snack!
- spider-tk062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:58:13 (GMT)
Eddie:
Hope you all have a nice week. I'll try to get that information for you Trix. Goodnight.
- spider-tk062.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:59:23 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gute Nacht, Allemiteinander. . . .
See yhou next week!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:59:37 (GMT)
Trix:
Mr. Rabuse. That is the best line of the evening. Time to call it a night here too. Have a wonderful week everybody, stay well and think happy thoughts.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 02:59:41 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Goodnight everyone
- spider-ntc-tb051.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 03:00:19 (GMT)
Carolyn S. Cecil:
Hello everyone! Urska, the apple trees and lilacs are in full bloom here also in Illinois. Farmers are planting corn already. Looking for information on Maria Simec b. 18 Sept
- cca92.ccaonline.com - Monday, July 23, 2001 at 13:21:48 (GMT)
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- mql-cf01.ncable.com.au - Thursday, July 26, 2001 at 04:15:38 (GMT)
Richard:
Yes, an oral history of emigrant Gottscheers would certainly be interesting though it should be done soon since time is passing the those that left Gottschee are getting older. It would be very interesting to read about their experiences in Gottschee-Südkärnten up to 1945, their life in Austria, their journey to the US or Canada and how they adapted to a new language and new customs. It certainly was not easy to fit into an English speaking and sometimes hostile world over here. We take so many things for granted in this easy life that we have here today.
Using the internet could certainly be a quick and easy way to do this. Then someone could volunteer to edit the input and with some pictures and facts come up with a small book that could be sold to the various Gottscheer organizations at cost.
I certainly enjoy my visits to the Gottscheer Plauderzimmer.
Sophia, thank you for the e-mail. I'll have to answer you at a later time. It is getting much colder here as we go further south. However, I just think of the 95 degree temperatures that NC is having right now and I just smile!
Hope all of you have a pleasant week!
- mql-cf01.ncable.com.au - Thursday, July 26, 2001 at 04:55:24 (GMT)
Sophia:
Good to hear form you Richard. THANK YOU for your comments regarding the oral history memories. I agree, it would make for good reading. Whether or not it will become reality only time will tell.
The heatwave, with temperatures in the 90's for 2 weeks straight has passed (well, for the moment at least). We are expecting rain within hours and then warmer weather again. Today, it is perfect in God's Country. 70°F, slight breeze from the northwest, sunny and a beautiful, blue sky. My kind of day.
Take care,enjoy your holiday and stay well. Your Gottscheer friends.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Friday, July 27, 2001 at 18:24:08 (GMT)
Trix:
CORRECTION NOTICE: Some of you have asked about the Gottscheer activities in Walden. Here is the correct information. The picnic is always the 2nd Sunday in July and the Schlachtfest the second Sunday in September. If any of you go, please share. Thank you.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Saturday, July 28, 2001 at 20:58:39 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten abend. Hope all are well. Leaving an early message. Might not get to log on until late.
- A010-0806.KSCY.splitrock.net - Sunday, July 29, 2001 at 13:00:09 (GMT)
Birgit:
Guten abend zusammen. Ich hoffe Ihr habt auch so ein schönes Wochenende wie ich gehabt.Wir haben hier in Germany
traumhaftes Wetter.
- spider-fra-tb083.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, July 29, 2001 at 20:31:10 (GMT)
Ridy:
Grüß Dich, Birgit! Auch hier in Toronto haben wir herrliches Sommer Wetter. Viel Sonne aber nicht zu heiß.
Zum genießen.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Sunday, July 29, 2001 at 21:23:41 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy und Birgit - Grüß Euch beide. Freut mich daß Ihr beide hier seit. Auch in Minnesota war heute ein herrlicher Tag und ich hoffe es bleibt so weiter. Birgit, wo in Deutschland wohnst Du? Bist Du auch Gottscheer Abstammung? Von welchen Dorf?
Hi Margaret. Talk to you later ok
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 01:05:03 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy: Just want you to know my envelope is in the mail.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 01:11:42 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Trix ~
Margaret and Birgit had checked in earlier this afternoon.
Have you been out fishing in this lovely weather? I've been sitting out on the deck, reading, and feeding the squirrels, blue jays, and crows! They're great company!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 01:12:25 (GMT)
Ridy:
Thanks, Trix! Your books went out Friday, I think. Can't remember. Most of them are gone now, just a few left to mail tomorrow.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 01:13:50 (GMT)
Trix:
Actually Ridy I did spend time on the patio. Am reading Jimmy Carter's book and have another one waiting. This one came from a Gottscheer and is entitled Island of Hope, Island of Tears. All about immigrants. Beautifully done.
Picked beans and cukes, made a nice meal and have been lazy too. At the moment Amy's white baby grand piano is being unloaded upstairs. It will be here until next August when they will move into their new home in Aitkin, MN 25 miles from us. Other pieces of furniture are expected to arrive within the next 3 weeks. So, our huge living room upstairs will be full. No problem - Clint and I have plenty of room downstairs where we live.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 01:16:59 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
I am going to do an oral history with Marie Wolf, who is 92, born in Gottschee, experienced the umseidlung (?) and finally came to US in the 50's. Have all the forms from the Heritage society. Will probably do it at the end of August. Will ask Marie to speak some Gottechabarish (?) on the tape. Forgive the spelling.
- A020-0784.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 01:17:56 (GMT)
Ridy:
I've just been re-reading Katharine Graham's book and by now I almost think I knew her. I also enjoyed Jimmy Carter's book. Am trying to get Michael Beschloss's book he put together from Meg Greenfield's stories about Washington. . . I'm a junkie!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 01:20:09 (GMT)
Ridy:
That sounds great, Margaret. I bet you will enjoy doing that and learn a lot in the process.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 01:21:05 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Pretty quiet tonight. Must log off. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- A020-0784.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 01:31:33 (GMT)
Trix:
Well Ridy, its you and I, I guess. Everyone must be occupied. Enjoyed the update from Richard in Australia and of course, look forward to reading your book.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 01:55:18 (GMT)
Ridy:
I'll be interested to have everyone's opinion of it, of course.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 01:58:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening, Trix and Ridy. Will be going to the bookstore tomorrow to pick up a couple of books. My tastes are usually historical or spy novels and history books.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:01:45 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:02:24 (GMT)
Ridy:
Do you have a favorite writer, Jim?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:03:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hope to have Ridy's tome as well. That will fit into my recent history slot. I enjoyed reading the German. Understood every word and wish I were better on the writing and speaking part of it.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:03:14 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Marilu!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:03:51 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
No, not really. I like some of the DeMille novels. I enjoy when the novel is fiction but it contains factual or historical information woven in. Early Tom Clancy as well.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:04:18 (GMT)
Ridy:
You should have your copy tomorrow or Tuesday at the latest!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:04:55 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We were at our daughters tonite for dinner so am a little late
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:05:04 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy I need your address so I can send you a copy of my book also
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:05:35 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Marilu. Everytime I think of you, I think of fine wine. Had a Long Island Cabernet Franc today with my mother in laws lasagna. Not as deep as a Cabernet Sauvignon but more body than most Merlots.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:05:36 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Marilu and Dr. Jim. Hope you are both great. How was your weekend?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:06:39 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim you would be disappointed in me, I like the sweet German wines..not the red wines.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:06:48 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have some Cabernet Franc in the store that was made in Colorado
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:07:22 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hmmm, that's what I feel like, a glass of wine! Excuse me. . . .
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:08:04 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lolol I do not drink much wine in the summer, heats my body up to much
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:08:45 (GMT)
Ridy:
My sisters got me some of those tiny bottles of Freixenet and I've just discovered I have no idea how to openthis thing! Gimme a hint, Marilu!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:13:07 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well where did everybody go? I amnot getting any messages thru
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:13:35 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Actually, I like the Rieslings and the Alsatian wines such as Gewurtztraminer with a nice, spicy dish such as Chinese cooking or perhaps something Cajun. No disappointment with your choice of wines, Marilu.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:13:50 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, the ones I have in the store are just pop out the cork. what are these like
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:14:28 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, What does the top look like? This looks like a long range emergency.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:15:12 (GMT)
Trix:
Marilu: What kind of store do you own?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:15:16 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, I am glad to hear that...I just have never developed a taste for the dry red wines.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:15:20 (GMT)
Ridy:
They have the wire cage over them, which I got off, but the huge cork seems to be cemented in!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:15:46 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, I own an off-sale liquor store, which means you buy it and take it home. Can not drink on the premises.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:16:03 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy try twisting the cork a little, and it should come out fairly easy. The wire cage is to keep the cork from coming out on its own, as that is champagne and it likes to fizz
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:17:04 (GMT)
Ridy:
This cork aint going' nowhere, and the whole thing is going back in the fridge! Next time I hope they get me something with a screw top!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:18:20 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lololol
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:18:50 (GMT)
Trix:
Gees, Marilu a good bottle of something or another would be a nice prize for the raffle at the next annual meeting. What do you think about that? People would love it. Agree?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:19:05 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy maybe if you ran some hot water on it, maybe there is a little residue that is sticky and sealing it in
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:20:02 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, that would be possible but I don't know if I am going to get to go to the annual meeting next year, and someone would have to deliver it!!!
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:21:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
Problem solved. They also gave me some piccolos of Henkell Trocken, and they have a srew top! Delicious!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:22:54 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
What are piccolos?
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:23:34 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Do what John Wayne would do--- just crack it against the side of the table and pop !!!
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:24:16 (GMT)
Ridy:
little single serving bottles -- 200ml
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:24:40 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim I like that answer!
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:24:41 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I agree --- what is a piccolo?
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:24:57 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
ok Never heard them called that before. I thought Franz might be on tonite, and tell about his trip to Colorado
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:25:25 (GMT)
Ridy:
I never saw John Wayne do that!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:26:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
ask your mother-in-law, Jim. I bet she knows that name
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:27:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Listen, pilgrim. If he didn't do it, he should have. That'll be the day.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:28:25 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim I take it you are a John Wayne fan.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:29:29 (GMT)
Ridy:
Can't believe it, but some of the books have already arrived in the US! Took all of two days! Let me know when you get yours, please. . . .When I've sent stuff by Xpress post it's taken a week!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:30:25 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy will you email me your address?? I assume one of those books is coming to me! Please.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:32:10 (GMT)
Ridy:
Yes - your book should reach you in the next day or two.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:35:00 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Thanks Ridy, now I can get one mailed to you.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:35:02 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Yes, I am. Have all of his movies that have been made into VHS format including all of the old B westerns where they used the same set over and over again.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:36:18 (GMT)
Ridy:
Don't know if I told you - but I discovered I can't count! When I was counting up how many books to order, I completely forgot to include my own family -- children, sisters, nieces and nephews!!! So tomorrow I have to place another other! Or maybe I should wait until the returns come back!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:36:51 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Rio Bravo is my favorite.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:37:01 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, and you were worried about having some left over. lol
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:38:23 (GMT)
Ridy:
Do you have any of the old Roy Rogers movies, Jim? I was a dyed in the wool Roy Rogers fan! Well - he may have been a tad before your time!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:38:29 (GMT)
Ridy:
I'm going to visit a friend in Texas in October. I shall get a complete cowgirl outfit! Wonder what that consists of nowadays?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:39:49 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lol I watched both Roy Rodgers and Gene Autry on TV. They were my heros cause they could sing.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:40:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
No, not a big Roy fan. Rio Bravo was a good one but The Searchers is my favorite western. The Shootist was underrated.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:40:51 (GMT)
Ridy:
Was The Magnificient Seven considered a cowboy movie? We saw that in Switzerland back in the '60s with German subtitles and it was hilarious because my sisters and I were always laughing when the rest of the audience was quiet.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:42:25 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Gruess Euch Gott Alle miteinander, Alle miteinander, Gruess Euch Gott.
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:42:51 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Oops, I should have said Howdy Cowgirl.
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:43:55 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Franz hello I wondered where you were
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:44:01 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hey! I listened to the Vogelhändler this afternoon, Franz! Love that Operetta! How was Colorado? Give us all the inside dope on Marilu!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:44:19 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Marilu, I wish back in wonderful Colorado.
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:44:49 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
See I already gave them the inside dope on you last week Franz! lolol
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:45:38 (GMT)
Trix:
Chicago Franz. You are not listening. We want ALL the dope on Marilu! Grüß Dich.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:46:10 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, we enjoyed meeting Marilu. We have a wonderful Lady in our Plauderzimmer.
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:46:35 (GMT)
Trix:
Way to go Franz!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:47:15 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Thanks Franz..I sang your praises last week. And you have a lovely wife also.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:47:26 (GMT)
Ridy:
Glad to hear it Franz -- now, when are you coming to Toronto?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:47:36 (GMT)
Trix:
Marilu: We could send the wine to the annual meeting, couldn't we?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:48:13 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Where is Toronto located?
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:48:26 (GMT)
Ridy:
Just on the other side of the North Pole. We're already busy making Christmas presents -- it's a cottage industry here. Twit!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:49:21 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes Trix I suppose I could, but that is usually a hassle, making sure it is packed good enough to ship.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:49:45 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Marilu, we enjoyed the wine in front of the campfire. We almost had Coyoties as company.
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:49:59 (GMT)
Ridy:
Jim - are you on the way up here to open that other bottle for me?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:50:06 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Franz.
Yes, the Magnificent Seven was considered a cowboy movie, however, it was patterned after a Japanese classic --- The Seven Samurai. Therefore, it had a different slant than other "oaters". Has been copied many times since.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:50:42 (GMT)
Trix:
I just sent 2 bottles of Minnesota wine to Colorado. Haven't hear any response. Hope it got there in good shape.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:51:12 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, what's in my package?
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:51:36 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I am glad you liked it Franz. The next time you come out here, we will have to do better planning ahead of time, so we can see a little more of each other. How was the rodeo. We had one in Canon City this weekend.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:51:51 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ah, Twit --- a term of endearment that I haven't heard in a long time. Ridy, had my air tickets ready until you mentioned the piccolo. I knew you would be okay.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:52:09 (GMT)
Trix:
Has anybody ever seen the Joy Luck Club? First time for us today. What a movie! What a classic!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:52:22 (GMT)
Ridy:
My book, Dahlink!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:52:44 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I thought Twit was kinda cute too lolol
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:53:31 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Hello Jim, wish you would have been there, Coyoties, Bears, Rattlers and whatever you desire.
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:53:46 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, they can grow grapes in Minnesota? Colorado surprised me but now Minnesota. What will they think of next? Ridy claims they can grow grapes in Canada as well. You guys must think we are gullible bumpkins.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:54:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, Killer rabbits would be all I could take without the necessary arms to protect myself.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:55:35 (GMT)
Trix:
Actually, I think the Minnesota wines are made from fruit. I think I sent a bottle of Raspberry and a bottle of Blackberry (?)locally produced in God's country. They tell me it is delicious!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:56:19 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Marilu, we never made it to the rodeo. We watched the Roundup Parade. We stayed Saturday night with neighbors on the ranch and just kept on gossiping.
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:56:49 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
But Trix I am living in God's country!
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:57:17 (GMT)
Ridy:
Don't knock our Canadian wines! I'm told they haven't poisoned anyone recently. Have you not heard of our world famous ice wine? It's world renowned! (so I'm told)(Can't spell anymore tonight!)
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:57:24 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, Ridy is planning to take a long vacation on the royalties. I wonder if the USA government should know about this entrepeneurial endeavour. Notice I spelled endeavour with a "u" for our Canadian listeners.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:57:34 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Franz sounds like you had a good time.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:57:56 (GMT)
Trix:
Marilu: I guess we are both blessed.
Everyone Good Night and have a great week.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:58:21 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I am pretty impressed with all the quick wit tonite!!!!
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:58:31 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy Ice wine is some of the best!
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:59:32 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, we better alert the State Department. Don't you think?
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:59:39 (GMT)
Ridy:
How do you clap on the Internet! Pretty impressive, Jim!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 02:59:44 (GMT)
Ridy:
Never mind, children! I still have my green card! Never gave it up once I got my greedy little hands on it.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:00:22 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, have a good night. I guess I don't have the audacity to call NJ God's country. It is, however, better than most think especially if you get away from the eastern most section near the major north-south roads. NJ wines are terrible except for some of the fruit wines like raspberry and blueberry.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:00:34 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, why are you leaving us?
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:01:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, I can hear the chortling from hear. I bet you haven't seen chortling in a while.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:02:17 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, if you have to leave please have a Good Night and a pleasant week.
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:02:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, has had enough of our banter. Too much for a Sunday night.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:02:54 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, the green card won't help you any longer.
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:03:34 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix Like Franz said if you have to go, have a good week
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:04:00 (GMT)
Ridy:
You're right -- Ray just wanted to know what I was giggling about. I haven't giggled in a long while either. It's that Piccolo, of course!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:04:09 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Marilu, I always enjoy Colorado. Perhaps I will have to relocate.
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:05:11 (GMT)
Ridy:
Why won't my green card help me any longer, Franz? I like the picture they used on it -- goes back to 1966!!!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:05:12 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Nice to be called a child. To be youthful and spry again instead of this withered and bent shadow of my former self ------ Drum roll, onions, and violins please.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:05:32 (GMT)
Ridy:
Servus, Trixie -- schlaf gut!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:05:44 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
If I had some piccolo right now, it would just put me to sleep. Cause it has been a long day. And we went swimming this afternoon, and that always tires me out. Playing in the water with the grandkids.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:06:14 (GMT)
Ridy:
Is everybody sniffing something tonight? Or guzzling instead of sipping?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:07:08 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, that's just it, 1966 is outdated.
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:07:09 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lololol we are a jolly bunch tonite arent we?
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:07:53 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ladies and Gents --- time for me to bid you a good night as well. To work in the morning and it promises to be a busy day.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:07:57 (GMT)
Ridy:
You're right, Marilu - my eyes are falling shut. My father always said I was the cheapest drunk he ever met - usually fell asleep before I finished one glass. And today I have a good reason to be sleepy -- I got up an hour before dawn! Can't remember why.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:09:17 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night Jim Don't work that tired and bent body too hard!
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:09:21 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, whose grandkids?? Probably just some visitors. This is just natural mirth. If it were externally induced, the spelling would be a whole lot worse. Again, time to go. Had a good time. Next week we will have heavy social commentary and intense genealogy discussions.
- spider-mtc-tj014.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:10:01 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy I saw you online early today.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:10:21 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz -- details, details! I just like the card because it proves that once upon a long time ago, I was an undesireable alien in the USA. that was my classification!!!!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:10:39 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, have a good night and a very pleasant week as well. This goes for everyone. I too am tired and a busy week ahead of me.
- 1Cust70.tnt87.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:10:46 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim my grandkids. I have nine of them!
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:10:51 (GMT)
Ridy:
Sweet dreams, Jim!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:11:54 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night Franz and Ridy See you next week. Have a good week.
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:12:09 (GMT)
Ridy:
Now that is unfair -- you have nine and I have none! Something wrong with that math! It does not compute!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:12:50 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gute Nacht, everyone
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:13:18 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Sorry Ridy! I know I am lucky cause they all live fairly close also
- spider-ntc-tb064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:14:12 (GMT)
Richard:
Well, I missed the live Plauderzimmer again - by about 45 minutes: I could not find an internet access computer quickly enough today. We are 14 hours ahead of US Eastern Time. Here in Melbourne it is just beautiful, sunny and in the low 60's.
Maybe I'll get to tune in on time next week. I hope everyone has a good week.
- 203.208.148.142 - Monday, July 30, 2001 at 03:46:10 (GMT)
Sophia:
Hi Richard. Please send me an e-mail so I can return one. Have a big favor to ask of you while you are still down yonder. Thanks.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Tuesday, July 31, 2001 at 22:19:26 (GMT)
knut schwentner geb.(born as)darovic(darowitsch):
hallo!
nachdem meine eltern seit einigen jahren leider tot sind und also keine familie mehr habe,möchte ich wissen ob ich andere verwandte habe.
meine mutter anna wurde am 16.2.1940 in kocjeve(?richtig geschrieben?) geboren und musste 1944 nach österreich/graz flüchten. ihr vater hiess franz und ihre mutter maria darovic.
ich würde mich sehr freuen hinweise zu erhalten unter art4core@tm1.at !
liebe grüsse aus graz/austria
hello! after my parents are unfortunately dead for some years and i have no more family , would I like to know whether I have other family members. my mother Anna was born16.febr.1940 in kocjeve(?right written?) and went after 1944 to austria/graz as a refugee.her father was called franz and her mother Maria darovic. I will be much pleased to get reaction received under art4core@tm1.at! best wishes and greetings from graz/austria
- chello213047040027.1.graz.surfer.at - Wednesday, August 01, 2001 at 17:33:58 (GMT)
Birgit:
Franz Mausser:
Franz,melde Dich mal.Wir waren vor zwei Wochen in Kroatien und danach bei deinen Schwestern in der Steiermark. Hast Du meine e-mail erhalten? Gruß Birgit
- spider-fra-tb012.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, August 04, 2001 at 12:53:41 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Guten Abend, meine Damen und Herren ~
am I going to have to sit here and talk to myself or is there anyone out there somewhere?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:07:10 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Ridy. Good evening from a very, very hot Waukenabo Lake. We had 98° today with a heat index of 110°. Almost unbearable is the only way to describe it. I have been dragging all day trying to get a few things done. Early this morning I did manage to read the first 50 pages of your WONDERFUL book. I am so very much enjoying it! You did an excellent job sharing infomation about your family, your personal memories, the honesty of it all not to mention the marvelous photos. They alone are worth the purchasing price of your book. I hope everyone will order their copy for their library. IT IS A GEM. You and Arnold are to be congratuled on a wonderful job. THANK YOU FOR SHARING.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:13:23 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Wow! I was complaining because we got just over 90° and the humidex was 95°. Considering what you had, I'll take ours -- but I'd be much happier if it got down to abour 65-70°.... Thank you for the lovely compliment! I've had several calls today from cousins who did get the book - yesterday. We don't have mail on Saturdays in Canada so that was an unexpected surprise.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:20:09 (GMT)
Eddie R.:
Hi Trix and Ridy. Ridy, where's my book????'
- spider-tk064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:26:25 (GMT)
Ridy :
It's in the mail, Dahlink Eddie! Just remember, patience is a virtue, and all good things come to him who waits.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:28:06 (GMT)
Eddie:
Oh!Ok.
- spider-tk064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:28:52 (GMT)
Eddie:
Trix. Your books are in the mail. I also included 2 audio tapes with them. Thank you.
- spider-tk064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:30:00 (GMT)
Ridy :
Had the funniest call from one relative -- she broke her glasses and can't read without them! We have a holiday in Canada tomorrow, and she won't be able to get a new pair until Tuesday. . . .so you see, Eddie, it could be worse!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:30:46 (GMT)
Eddie:
What holiday is that, Ridy?
- spider-tk064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:31:57 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten abend. Sorry to be late. Grandson just came. Hope all are well. Wish I knew how to say all of that in German.
- A010-1128.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:32:15 (GMT)
Ridy :
Nobody knows. Everybody just stays home because it's too hot to go to work. Some call it Civic Holiday, others Simcoe Day. ..
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:33:04 (GMT)
Eddie:
Ridy, finally got into that NY Times 'Slovenia' article. Nice job. It makes me want to go traveling!
- spider-tk064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:35:07 (GMT)
Ridy:
Trix and I have the distinction of having spent time in the hospital in Laibach when we were small, so I always enjoy seeing photographs of Laibach.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:37:08 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: How do I sign up to get a book?? Please let me know via my email: buster34@prodigy.net
Thanks a bunc.
- A010-1128.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:37:13 (GMT)
Franz:
Hi everyone, just wanted to let you know I'LL BE BACK, have meat on the grill and can't let it burn.
- 1Cust144.tnt14.chi1.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:37:22 (GMT)
Ridy:
Margaret - yours is also in the mail. It seems to be taking forever for some of you to get your copies. There's no rhyme or reason to it that I can see.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:38:37 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Franz: What do you have on the grill? Are we all invited??
- A010-1128.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:39:30 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Must sign off. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- A010-1128.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:40:42 (GMT)
Trix:
Only Ridy would get buy with calling Mr. Rabuse Dahlink! That is so great Ridy. And how is the Volvo man?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:41:35 (GMT)
Trix:
Sorry, meant to say "get by" not "get buy". Them fingers are moving slow tonight. It is the heat.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:42:56 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hey, I learned it from Tallulah Bankhead -- she got away with it. (can't remember how to spell her name!)
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:42:58 (GMT)
Trix:
Pretty darn close spelling Ridy. Lets face we all got it.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:43:48 (GMT)
Eddie:
Trix, So far so good--except I wish I HAD SOMETHING TO READ!!!!
- spider-tk064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:43:49 (GMT)
Ridy:
It's probably all the licking and sticking you've been doing? Are the Connections ready to drop in the mailbox?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:43:54 (GMT)
Trix:
No, goes to the printer tomorrow. Need to get the envelopes ready, then stuff them, lick them shut and then get them in the mail. Hopefully by Tuesday of next week.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:45:36 (GMT)
Ridy:
Eddie - get the phone book - read all the way down to the Post Office - give them a call, and then give 'em hell!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:45:49 (GMT)
Trix:
Richard, if you are following our exchanges we send you greetings. Hope you are not freezing. Hope too that you journey home will go smoothing all the way.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:47:23 (GMT)
Ridy:
Are there photos taken at the meeting in Denver in the Connection? Hope so!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:47:23 (GMT)
Trix:
Richard, if you are following our exchanges we send you greetings. Hope you are not freezing. Hope too that you journey home will go smoothing all the way.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:47:27 (GMT)
Eddie:
That will have to wait until tomorrow,Ridy. P.O. is shut tight on Sundays!
- spider-tk064.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:47:54 (GMT)
Trix:
Yes Ridy, many photos. I am a firm believer that a picture is worth a thousand words. I believe in photography and enjoy taking many photos. You can't believe how often I have used them. They just tell a story.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:49:28 (GMT)
Ridy:
Gee, I think Franz must have a whole cow on that grill. He's been gone long enough!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:49:44 (GMT)
Trix:
OK Chicago Franz. What are you grilling? Smells delicious!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:50:28 (GMT)
Ridy:
I'm of the same opinion, Trix -- that's why we used as many as we did in the book. Arnold have a huge collection of them, and now we can all share them.
Wonder if Helmut will send me a bill for all the free advertising I'm getting?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:51:36 (GMT)
Trix:
Does anybody have any photos taking during the Flucht from Untersteiermark into Austria? Boy, I would give anything to get my hands on a couple.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:51:52 (GMT)
Lynn:
Good evening everyone!
- ilsmpn77.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:53:08 (GMT)
Trix:
Received Marilu's book yesterday. Am anxious to check that out too. Did not have enough time in Denver to do anything but glance at it. Am proud of all of you out there who have undertaken these huge projects of love and then complete them. Ich gratuliere Euch beide.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:53:59 (GMT)
Ridy:
Trix - that would be have to be some sort of miracle! You think they would have let anyone keep a camera? Who would have dared to take the time! Film would not have been easy to get either! But you are right, of course --- pictures would be priceless -- but they would also be silent witnesses to the crimes which were committed against us.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:54:54 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Lynn. Welcome to the chat room. May I ask where you are at?
Dr. Jim - enjoy!
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:55:07 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Lynn! Long time no see!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:55:54 (GMT)
Trix:
I am so angry with myself that I didn't sit down with my mother and talk about this in detail. I remember bits and pieces of it but have no clue where it was. I remember the train ride in the cattle cars, seeing dead animals, soldiers, burned out vehicles but where? That is why I am so insistent that if anyone out there still has family with them who experienced the Flucht get it down on paper! You still have that opportunity where many of us do not.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 01:57:53 (GMT)
Ridy:
Do you remember the date on which you started your flight from Untersteiermark? Martha Hutter thinks that she and I were on the same train!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:00:04 (GMT)
Trix:
I think it was May 8, 1945. Between you and Martha you could come up with a lot of good information. Did you talk about the Flucht in your book? Haven't gotten that far yet. I hope you did. Would love to learn more about it.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:02:16 (GMT)
Ridy:
Oh yes -- I talk about my own families flight; my Eppich and Sigmund cousins' terrible ordeal -- they walked for a month; and my Tante Ottilie and her little son -- they ended up in the infamous Sternthal camp. But miraculously, all survived.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:04:02 (GMT)
Ridy:
(spelling error, I know. Should be singular possessive, not plural)
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:06:16 (GMT)
Lynn:
Hi Trixie: I am Lynn in Southern Illinois -- do you recall? My family are Samides, Thellians and others?
- ilsmpn77.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:08:29 (GMT)
Lynn:
Hello Ridy - I never seem to have any time to come online and greet everyone. I hope all is well with this Plauderzimmer and with the society. Is Jim Heimann on here now?
- ilsmpn77.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:09:43 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Lynn. How are you doing? Your Thellians are they from the Altsag by Tschermoschnitz area?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:10:14 (GMT)
:
Jim's off enjoying some down time, Lynn
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:11:39 (GMT)
Lynn:
Here is my Grandfather's address - Maschen #6, Tschermoschnitz, Gottschee
- ilsmpn77.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:11:56 (GMT)
Ridy:
Sorry - I'm the phantom; got kicked off
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:12:10 (GMT)
Trix:
Sorry Lynn but Dr. Heimann is not joining us tonight. He will be sorry to have missed you. Lets do it again next Sunday. Are you having this heat wave too? Speaking about southern IL are you anywhere near Springfield?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:12:11 (GMT)
Lynn:
His father was born in Krapflern #3, Pollandl, Gottschee, Austro-Hungarian Empire
- ilsmpn77.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:12:27 (GMT)
Lynn:
Go back a little further and they are in Altsag - Altlag #3, Gottschee
- ilsmpn77.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:12:46 (GMT)
Lynn:
Trix -- I am in Southernmost Illinois very far from Springfield - across the Ohio River from Paducah, Kentucky
- ilsmpn77.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:13:31 (GMT)
Trix:
OK Chicago Franz. What is happening?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:14:03 (GMT)
Lynn:
Trix: I was so happy when your daughter became tenured. That is such a wonderful accomplishment and offers good security!
- ilsmpn77.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:15:32 (GMT)
Ridy:
He's probably off somewhere with Marilu! Where is Marilu tonight?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:15:57 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy, I seems to me that when we got to Graz in 1945 the city had been bombed quite badly. Do you remember any of that? I am pretty sure it was in Graz but after all these years one doubts his or her collections. It is not that our life has been boring. My gosh, look at it and see all the adjustments and challenges we have endured. I hardly ever think about this but when I do it is pretty darn awesome to have survived it all and now enjoying wonderful conversations with total strangers. Most of the time I feel like I have know you all my life. WOW! Pretty terrific even if I say so myself.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:18:19 (GMT)
Trix:
Ridy: I am not touching your last message! I know when to keep my mouth shut.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:19:26 (GMT)
Trix:
Lynn, thanks for your comments regarding Maria's tenure. I agree, a HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT and a long road to get to this point. Any thought about going to Gottschee next year?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:20:48 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
I told you I'LL BE BACK, dinner was delicous, the whole cow and all. Sorry I missed all the fun.
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:21:09 (GMT)
Ridy:
I agree - it's pretty terrific! What would our parents and grandparents think?!!! And yes, Graz was badly bombed and I remember it well. But now it's back to being the little jewel of a city it always has been -- I was amazed to see the change when I went back for my first visit many, many years ago.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:21:51 (GMT)
Trix:
OK Franz, so what did you all enjoy? We want to know.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:22:47 (GMT)
Lynn:
Trix: I don't think we will get to Gottschee for some time. We couldn't even go to Ireland (my husband's home country) these past two years. We are both working so much and have conflicting schedules. My biggest complaint about the US is that there is so little time off!
- ilsmpn77.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:23:46 (GMT)
Lynn:
Trix - Our friend in Norway is 50 years old and has 12 weeks off WITH PAY each year! We each get two weeks only!
- ilsmpn77.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:24:39 (GMT)
Trix:
Mr. Rabuse, what happened to you? You are not the only man in the chat room now. Chicago Franz is back. So, what are your words of wisdom for tonight? Did you end up in Graz in 1945 too or? Any memories about those days?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:24:57 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, yes I was on one of these trains and remember ending up in Graz on the Hauptbahnhof. No roof on the entire building. I think we slept two night under the stars, then they shipped us to a camp called Kaiserwald by Lieboch.
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:24:59 (GMT)
Ridy:
Lynn - I can relate to that! When I lived in Ann Arbor and got a job I was told that work started at 8:00 a.m. I thought they were joking and turned up at 9:00 a.m., just when everybody was leaving for their coffee break! It was difficult to get used to a full 8-hour day+++
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:26:06 (GMT)
Lynn:
I admire you all for going through all the war troubles. My Mom's family were all here, but then 5 of 11 children were in the service. One of her brothers died on the Bhatan Death March. Even though they were in the US they still had sacrfice. It was such a hard time for the world!
- ilsmpn77.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:26:56 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz -- I wonder if you were also on the same train? My father took us off when we reached Graz, but the train eventually continued on back to Yugoslavia and from there to Hungary. That was a major tragedy.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:28:21 (GMT)
Eddie:
I remember taking the 7:14 out of Haselbach making local stops to Maribor and then jumping on the express to Salzburg. Trix. I was a year old! How could I remember anything???
- spider-mtc-td033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:28:23 (GMT)
Trix:
No doubt about it. More and more people talk about the lifestyle in other countries. They talk about Europe, New Zealand etc. I wonder if we will ever change? We seem so driven! Life is so very short, for many so much to see and so little time to enjoy it. I have to admit since my husbands medical retirement we have adjusted very nicely to the peace and quiet of country living. For that we are very grateful. Can't help but wonder what kind of life our grandchildren will have.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:29:36 (GMT)
Ridy:
Thanks for the laugh, Eddie! I needed that!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:29:51 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, I do remember there was this girl always crying and demanding, it must have been you.
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:31:16 (GMT)
Lynn:
I am so tired. I'm afraid I must go for now. Gute Nacht und haben eine reizende Woche!
- ilsmpn77.shawneelink.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:31:40 (GMT)
Trix:
Sorry Mr. Rabuse. Forgot that you are a spring chicken. I forgive you for not remembering and stupid for me to ask.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:32:01 (GMT)
Trix:
Lynn, Gute Nacht auch zu Dir. Schlaf gut und hoffe auf ein Wiedersehen nächstem Sonntag Abend.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:33:06 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, please don't take me serious, I just needed to needle you.
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:33:52 (GMT)
Ridy:
Seriously, Franz -- when you get the book, read the part about our flight from Rann, and see if it rings a bell. Maybe you also were on the same train!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:34:27 (GMT)
Eddie:
I understand, Mrs. Stalzer-Wyant.And you are not stupid!!!
- spider-mtc-td033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:34:38 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix and Ridy, when are you going to send us cooler temps
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:35:20 (GMT)
Ridy:
Franz, I grew up with one brother and half a dozen substitute brothers, or whatever you want to call them. If there is one thing I'm used to, it's being needled. And asking 'how high' when I'm told to jump!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:35:36 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, honestly, I would'nt want you to jump tonight.
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:37:30 (GMT)
:
Franz: I would love to do that. We had 98° today with a heat index of 110°. You cannot believe hot miserable it has been. I understand this will continue until the end of this week. But, I received 2 e-mails from Europe today and they, too, are having very hot days. I think they said between 32 to 35°C - that's in the 90's isn'it it? Out East and West, I am told it us unseasonably cool. They need sun, warm days and nights for their vegetables. So, what can I say? Crazy world isn't it?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:38:34 (GMT)
Ridy:
Actually, we are in the midst of our Caribana Festival here in Toronto and it's called 'Jump Up' -- I think. . . .can't see or hear a thing where I am though. . . the saints be praised!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:38:49 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, we probably had the pleasure of the same trainride.
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:39:31 (GMT)
Trix:
Sorry, previous message came from me. Forget to enter the name.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:39:48 (GMT)
Ridy:
Some pleasure!
Tell me when you get the book, Franz -- I'm keeping track of how long it takes!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:40:29 (GMT)
Trix:
Franz: Speaking about Lieboch. If that is the village south of Graz, and I think it is, I believe my mother got her first job there working in the kitchen at one of the local Gasthauses. If I heard the name I might even remember it.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:40:40 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, did you really send me your book? I am flabergasted and looking foreward to read it.
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:42:13 (GMT)
Eddie:
How come it's just the men who didn't get their books,Ridy?
- spider-mtc-td033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:43:21 (GMT)
Ridy:
Isn't the mail interesting? Trix - who lives out in the sticks - got hers already, but people like you and Eddie, who live in the largest cities in the US of A are still waiting for theirs....
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:43:47 (GMT)
Ridy:
It's a conspiracy, Eddie!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:44:36 (GMT)
Trix:
Mr. Rabuse: Anything new in the New York area? Is there a lot of talk about the Gottscheer Treffen? How about the Schlachtfest scheduled for Walden NY on Sept. 9?
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:45:24 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Eddie, remember it's a womans world today.
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:45:37 (GMT)
Eddie:
Trix. Are you still getting any stringbeans? I was doing fine and all of a sudden the beans stopped growing! All I have now are bushes!
- spider-mtc-td033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:46:11 (GMT)
Eddie:
Franz, you're a wise man!!!
- spider-mtc-td033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:46:58 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Eddie, just don't tell my wife.
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:48:02 (GMT)
Eddie:
I bet she already knows that. Women are smarter than we think!
- spider-mtc-td033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:48:46 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Eddie, right on.
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:49:29 (GMT)
Eddie:
Trix. What about my beans!
- spider-mtc-td033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:49:39 (GMT)
Trix:
Actually Eddie, we are. Had a nice bowl of Schaurei Pauglein (sour beans) for lunch. Also have a nice crop of cukes with many more to come. The tomatoes are now ready too. Our potatoes though did not do well this year. I dug them all because I like them little. But the carrots will do beautiful too. I had some pole bean seeds from Gottschee left over from a couple of years ago. They are doing well. I love fresh green beans with vinegar and oil dressing! One of my favorites. Come to think of I love the cukes the same way too. Then there are the sliced tomatoes and on and on and on.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:50:06 (GMT)
Eddie:
Wow. That hot weather is doing you good. Sounds like yoy're in the Produce business!
- spider-mtc-td033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:51:47 (GMT)
Trix:
Actually, gentlemen, the world is great because there are both men and women in it. What is important is to respect each other and their talents and don't take anyone for granted.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:52:54 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Trix, how do you do it? My beens have been eaten by our friendly Deer, despite fence and all.
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:52:57 (GMT)
Trix:
Mr. Rabuse: Forgot to mention the weeds. They are out of control in one of our gardens. The one by the lake is great. The one by the garage a total mess. After the season I plan to cover it all with newspapers and bring in another load of good black dirt.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:54:19 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Folks, sorry about my BEENS spelling, O.K ?
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:54:55 (GMT)
Ridy:
The Sandman is knocking at my door and I'm afraid I'll have to say goodnight. . . Hope you all have a wonderful week and cooler weather. It's been fun.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:55:25 (GMT)
Eddie:
Don't use the Gottscheer Zeitungs! I need them.
- spider-mtc-td033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:55:30 (GMT)
Eddie:
Goodnight, Ridy. I really feel tomorrow is the day I get THE BOOK! I'll let you know.
- spider-mtc-td033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:57:09 (GMT)
Trix:
Them damn deer. Our gardens are fenced in - that is the only reason we are enjoying any produce. But, my flowers have taken a real beating this year. For years we have always used Hinder, a liquid that you mix with water and spray. I think I left the plastic contained on the porch, it froze during the winter and provably lost its power. We spray the mixture on our flowers pots (and have done it for years with total success but not this year.) That led me to the concluson that it lost its power. So, last week I found another bottle in the house, mixed up a new mess and for the last 4 days we have not lost any more blossoms. It works, it really does Franz. Try it. The name is HINDER a deer repellant. We have deer by our front door. They think they own this place and at times I think they do too.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:57:44 (GMT)
Eddie:
Franz, did you ever run into a deer with your car?
- spider-mtc-td033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:57:56 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, schluf biadr gueat, uend Seffe uend Eddie schlufat a gueat. Hoeffentlich scheitr schuentogasch biadr du.
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 02:58:43 (GMT)
Trix:
Well, almost time for the news here too. Need to get educated as to what is going on in the world.
Thank you for your company. It has been a great pleasure.
Good night Ridy, Mr. Rabuse and Chicago Franz and anyone else that is quietly following us our conversations.
Have a wonderful week. Thanks for the books Mr. Rabuse.
- cp-cache1.cpinternet.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 03:00:06 (GMT)
Eddie:
Thank you, Trix. Hope you all have a good week.
- spider-mtc-td033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 03:01:21 (GMT)
Franz Mausser:
Eddie, it seems deer don't like Volvo's. Thank goodness not yet, however I had some close calls. Trix I tried everythink on the market, it just so happens at times I neglect the repeats.
- 1Cust132.tnt5.chi5.da.uu.net - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 03:02:53 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello anyone still on?
- spider-ntc-tc043.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 06, 2001 at 03:07:42 (GMT)
Richard:
Sophia, I have looked in several telephone books and called directory assistance here but unfortunately have not found an Albin Schmuck anywhere. Could he have possibily moved to another Canadian city?
We also live on a lake in NC and the animals come up to snack on our vegetable garden. It is a never ending battle to keep them out. I suppose the best way is to grow enough vegetables to share with them.
The varrora mite ended beekeeping for me two years ago. Some years ago we had great vegetables and fruit from the pollination and the honey was just excellent. We just must adapt to the ever changing ways that meet us in life.
Best Wishes!
- 203.103.202.123 - Wednesday, August 08, 2001 at 01:04:15 (GMT)
Sophia:
Richard, THANK YOU. Appreciate your efforts very much. We are looking for cooler weather moving in later on. Tempteratures have been very, very hot - close to a 100° for the last 3 weeks. Remind me not to complain come wintertime. Hope all is well with you and yours and thanks for sharing your experiences with the animals. Take care and safe journey.
- mlec5200-2-gw-80.mlecmn.net - Wednesday, August 08, 2001 at 13:17:54 (GMT)
Julie:
I was looking at Arnold Rom's web site and came across a beautiful painting of Gottscheer by Michael Ruppe. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of this painting? I would like to give it to my Grandmother. Thank you.
- secure.tbcnet.com - Wednesday, August 08, 2001 at 21:00:52 (GMT)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello, Julie ~
Arnold and I have written a book about our childhood in Gottschee and the 1940s in Unteresteiermark and Austria, and we use that painting on the cover of the book. Arnold's parents were fortunate to have some of Michael Ruppe's original works. If you are interested in the book, you can e-mail Arnold, or me, at ridy@home.com. The price, including postage, is $25 US or $35 CDN
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Wednesday, August 08, 2001 at 22:46:48 (GMT)
Nancy:
I'm trying to find info on an area in Austria (it used to be part of Austria in the 1890s) called Neselthal. My grandmother Gretrude Rabuse came from that region in 1899 with her sister Rosa. Gertrude married Sebastian Bamberger and they lived in Ridgewood/Glendale. If anyone could let me know how I can track down this region and what is currently known as (and the country it's located in)I would geatly appreciate it!
- host2.hvbank.com - Thursday, August 09, 2001 at 20:54:35 (GMT)
Bill Gregory:
Nancy:
Nesseltal was a village in Gottschee which was part of the Austria-Hungarian Empire until the end of WW I. This area is now part of Slovenia. There much help available through the Gottschee Heritage & Genealogical Association. You might start at their home page: http:\\www.gottschee.org\~ghga\ghga.htm
Rabuse is a Gottschee surname and Ridgewood was (is) a Gottschee neighborhood in Queens.
- 28.orlando-05rh16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net - Friday, August 10, 2001 at 01:35:09 (GMT)
Trix:
Hi Nancy. Gottscheer Greetings from Minnesota. Feel free to send me an e-mail regarding the village of Nesseltal (now knowsn as Koprivnik). As Mr. Gregory mentioned you will enjoy our web site. You might also be interested in becoming a member of the GHGA and perhaps purchasing a copy of our excellent map of the former Gottscheer region. It gives the names of all villages in both the German and Slovenian languages. You will enjoy it. I have visited the village in both 1996 and 1999 and have photos that I will gladly share.
Welcome aboard. Enjoy your journey of discovering your Gottscheer heritage. Here is my address: wyants@mlecmn.net.
- mlec5200-gw-39.mlecmn.net - Friday, August 10, 2001 at 14:34:42 (GMT)
Bill Gregory:
Nancy:
If you go to www.ellisisland.org you can find the original ship manifest of the "Friesland" when it arrived at Ellis Island on May 2, 1899. Your grandmother Gertrud and her sister Rosa were aboard. Gertrud was enroute to her cousin Mathias Meditz in Brooklyn. Rosa was enroute to her sister Lene in Brooklyn as was another passenger, Amalia Kraker age 16 of Nesseltal, who was your grandmother's cousin.
It is amazing what can be found once you start looking in the right places!
Enjoy your search. If you have any questions e-mail me: wm.gregory@att.net
- 218.orlando-04rh15rt.fl.dial-access.att.net - Friday, August 10, 2001 at 22:07:37 (GMT)
FIEDL Blau-Weiss GOTTSCHE:
We are pleased to announce thet on Saturday October 20TH Blau Weis GOTTSCHEE will be hosting a 50 th Anniversary celebration at Gottscheer HALL quens new oyrk ny'
- spider-wo031.proxy.aol.com - Saturday, August 11, 2001 at 20:24:29 (GMT)
Gerhard Samide:
Hallo Ridy, bin seit langem wieder einmal online.
Wollte Dir und Jim nur mitteilen, dass ich nicht auf Euch vergessen habe. Wenn ich wieder mehr Zeit habe werde ich auch den überarbeiteten Stammbaum zurücksenden.
Liebe grüße aus Österreich an Dich und Dr. Jim
Gerhard
- olinz-4274.utaonline.at - Saturday, August 11, 2001 at 21:27:37 (GMT)
Claudio Silot:
My Grandfather's family name was Alois Hoenigmann by birth,
he settled in Trieste before 1915' first world war and married Gisela Kalina from Motz(? Boemen?)- was prisoner of russian army from the very first week of the war and came back from prisony five years later - during Mussolini's era was compelled (si he used to claim) to change his family name into MELLI (the italian for Hoenig) He was one of twelve brothers born in Handlern and one of his brothers went to U.S.A. - I know that my mother received some letters from Chicago end eventually the announcment of his death
Anybody giving me news on mt Grandpa's brother , his family
I remeber my oncle and mother metionimg uncle Pepi he died in Wien All brothers where born before 1879 as they ehere younger than my Grandfather
Gruesse an alle gottscheern
Claudiop Silot
My E-Mail claudiosilot@libero.it
- ppp-59-42.25-151.libero.it - Sunday, August 12, 2001 at 10:03:42 (GMT)
Birgit Hostert-Kraker:
Claudio Silot:
Der Cousen meines Vater's ist ein Hoenigmann und dessen Vater kam wärend des Krieg's nach Deutschland. Aber genaueres kann ich zur Zeit nicht sagen. Viele Grüsse Birgit
- spider-fra-tc021.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, August 12, 2001 at 21:10:00 (GMT)
:
Es ist wirklich erfreulich, das so viele Zuhöhrer von Gottscheer Abstammung kurz beim Plauderzummer herein schauen! Schade das Ihr nicht mitmacht! Für die Europäer ist die Zeit freilich nicht günstig. Aber für Amerikaner wâre es doch möglich, oder?
It is wonderful to see so many non-regulars of Gottscheer ancestry posting messages of value in the Plauderzimmer! What would be even more wonderful, of course, would be your participation during our regular Sunday night chats!
But if you can't make it during our regular time, please keep posting your comments, questions, and responses whenever it suits you. It's great to see them at any time!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Sunday, August 12, 2001 at 21:26:00 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
So sorry! The previous message was posted by me
ridy@home.com
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Sunday, August 12, 2001 at 21:26:50 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, everyone. I agree with Ridy. I enjoy the comments from over the big pond. Nice to figure out what is being said.
Nancy, concerning your Nesseltal relations, I have sent an email to Bill Gregory to see if a link matches up. If it does, we can help you on your way. I grew up on Gates Avenue which runs through Bushwick and Ridgewood.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 00:54:09 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Anyone venturing into the chat room tonight?
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 01:19:15 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Wie geht es alles?
- A010-1452.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 01:25:57 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Are we the only ones on line tonight? Haven't gotten my book yet. Hope it comes soon.
- A010-1452.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 01:28:03 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guess I should log off. Much to do. Grandsons are here. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- A010-1452.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 01:28:43 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Margaret! Hi Jim!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 01:36:12 (GMT)
Trix:
Greetings Ridy, Dr. Jim and calling Margaret Jonke. Hope everyone is doing well. It is a beautiful day at Waukenabo Lake and I am tired. It has been busy.
Glad to hear you had a wonderful holiday Dr. Jim. The photo is lovely. Great place, no doubt about it. Did you take it easy tonight?
Ridy, once again GREAT BOOK. I really enjoyed reading it.
- mlec-mcgregor5200-3-156.mlecmn.net - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 01:43:38 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello out there. Is this a hit and miss night?
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 01:53:04 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Looks more like miss than hit.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:02:50 (GMT)
Trix:
OK Chicago Franz, Marilu, Mr. Rabuse and Richard from down under. Time to get with it. What's new with all of you? Share a little. I can't wait.
- mlec-mcgregor5200-3-156.mlecmn.net - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:07:19 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Trix. Are you still here? I was working with some of the digital pictures I took on vacation.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:08:33 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The day has been a cloudy day but an improvement over last week. Hopefully the sun will come out tomorrow (apologies to "ANNIE").
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:09:43 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, I guess it is a slow day. Will check back every couple of minutes,
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:13:06 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:15:58 (GMT)
Trix:
I know nothing about digital cameras but would like to learn about them. I agree, it is a slow evening. Hope everyone is o.k.
It is good night time from Minnesota. Have a good week everyone.
- mlec-mcgregor5200-3-156.mlecmn.net - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:16:53 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
So don't everybody leave now! We just got home from our daughters house.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:18:06 (GMT)
Ridy:
Sorry ~ been on the phone. Anyone still here?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:18:34 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Ridy
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:18:57 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hi Marilu! Glad somebody's left in the chat room
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:19:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Trix. Hello, Marilu. Been very slow. I thought the digital camera might be a good way to work with the microfilm record but the lighting is too uneven to get a uniform exposure. Need a better microfilm reader with no dark or light spots.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:19:34 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Ridy. Good evening to you, Famous Author.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:20:28 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello Jim You will not find that good a reader probably.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:20:34 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, isn't Ridy's book wonderful.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:21:06 (GMT)
Ridy:
Do you mean to say that you should be able to photograph microfilm and then be able to read the results?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:21:22 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I found some more of my extended Peschel family this week.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:21:42 (GMT)
Ridy:
OK, guys -- I've already got a swelled head -- no need to make it worse. But thank you for the compliments
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:22:29 (GMT)
Ridy:
One of these days, Marilu, I expect you to tell us that you're related to Jim and me! Keep searching!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:24:05 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lololol so far have found neither one of your family names in mine. But it would be lovely if you were...
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:25:01 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, what I tried to do is put the microfilm on the regular reader at the FHC, line it up with the digital camera, take a digital shot and then work with the results. If it worked correctly, I would be able to get one sheet of the parish books on one sheet of copy paper. However, the lighting is too uneven so some parts are too light, others too dark, and some just right (apologies to the THREE BEARS and Goldilocks).
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:26:14 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
This Peschel family started out in Sugar Creek, Iowa where my Underbergs were. And some of them live not far from where I am from in Minnesota. Small world.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:26:24 (GMT)
Ridy:
With such a small population as we had in Gottschee, in never ceases to amaze me that I am not closely related to many of the Maussers and Hoeglers, however they spell the names.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:26:31 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, Highly unlikely that we are related to Marilu. Too many miles between the parishes. However, one never knows does one.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:27:15 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, I can imagine cause it is the same way when you make a photo copy of the microfilm. Some just right, some not
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:27:27 (GMT)
Ridy:
So we've had ANNIE and now the THREE BEARS. . . . what's up, Doc?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:28:03 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, just wanted to thrown in some literary references.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:31:29 (GMT)
Ridy:
I thought you were already reliving your childhood, Jim.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:32:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
If the microfilm reader had more even lighting and a flatter surface, the digital camera would do the trick.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:32:12 (GMT)
Ridy:
If my kids should ask you what I want for Christmas, Jim, tell them a digital camera. It sounds like a neat new toy which I don't have yet! And the instructions should not be in Greek, OK?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:33:34 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy I don't have a digital camera yet either. I suppose it wont be long tho
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:36:12 (GMT)
Ridy:
I keep wondering what all the fuss is about Marilu. But then I wondered for years what the fuss was about computers.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:38:52 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I have six cameras. One is an old Advantix for routine slipping into the pocket and taking around easily. The second is the larger 35 mm camera with the regular, zoom, and macro lenses. The third is the new underwater camera. The fourth is the digital camera that I am now playing with. The fifth is the old underwater camera and the last is the new digital videocamera. I take more cameras than clothes on vacation.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:40:50 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I know what you mean. I have a very good Pentax camera 35 mm, and I think I would still take lots of my pictures with it, even if I had a digital. I have borrowed my sons a couple of times, and it takes very good pictures.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:41:47 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim I guess you do. My other son has a video camera that takes still shots too. but that is more than I need. 3 of the kids have video camers and they are always around when we are together.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:43:11 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am still trying to figure out where the digital camera fits into everything. I am still a photo album person so I would have to print the pictures out. Others just leave them on the computer. The advantages of a digital camera are that you can store them on a small disc, you can delete those that you don't want, and that you can digitally enhance the pictures after the fact.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:43:25 (GMT)
Ridy:
I'll have to ship all my slightly antique, used cameras off to you, Jim, and you can start a camera museum. I still have film in an old 8mm movie camera which I started in Zürich in 1963 and never finished!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:43:31 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, but with a scanner you can put any pictures on disc and enhance it too. I am working on lots of old photos that way. It is amazing what you can do with them.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:44:54 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Yep, the videocamera can take about twenty digital pictures as well. My family is tolerant of my taking pictures and enjoy looking at the albums. I don't use the videocamera very much but my wife may use it a little more now that we have a new one.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:45:04 (GMT)
Ridy:
Marilu, you shouild put them on CDs - it's amazing how much you can get on one CD
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:46:01 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Amongest my history, I want to make albums for all my siblings with all of our old family pictures. No wonder I dont have time for cleaning house!!!!
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:46:39 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, you can get those films digitized as well. Marilu, I have a scanner and I use it as well but I think the digital photos come out better. I often use the 35 mm camera with the macro attachment for taking pictures of older pictures. I can crop for the details that I like. However, I will work with the scanner and the digital camera as well.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:47:13 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, I have most of them on cd now. I transfer them from my hard drive to cd's when I am done messing with them.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:47:29 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, a digital camera might be just what you need to do the job. No film to worry about and you can burn them onto a CD like Ridy suggested.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:48:14 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
The only ones I have seen on cd from 35 mm, was from walmart and the quality was not good.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:48:30 (GMT)
Ridy:
I can relate to that! Cleaning up the mess I ignored now that I have no excuse to avoid it is very depressing.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:49:16 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have several picture programs that crop and enhance, so they turn out very well with scanning.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:49:33 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
My favorite one is called Franklin, and it has lots of darkroom utilites in it.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:51:27 (GMT)
Ridy:
Not my forte anymore. I wish I had understood the technology better when I started to put pictures into the book. Arnold was definitely the expert in that department and all of his are sharp and clear.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:52:42 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
I am currently using a strip down version of Adobe PhotoShop. I had a more featured older version but never used it. I am sure it is outdated by now.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:53:20 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, he did a good job on the pictures. Ridy I guess you have not gotten my book yet?
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:53:57 (GMT)
Ridy:
That's what I have - Adobe PhotoShop 5.5; too complicated!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:54:32 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have Adobe also, but prefer Franklin.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:54:35 (GMT)
Ridy:
No - it hasn't arrived yet. I'll let you know the minute it gets here. I can't believe that it's taking so long for the mail these days
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:56:13 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Is Franklin an off the shelf program? I would like one with more features but not too complicated.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:57:15 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ok well, guys I am tired tonite. It has been a hard weekend. And I need to rest up for the grandkids tomorrow.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:57:25 (GMT)
Ridy:
Hate to be a party pooper, but it's bedtime for me. Gute Nacht, and see you next week.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:58:12 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, My son had it, and then I got my own copy with the software from my HP printer. It has lots of features, and I think it is easy. if that means anything. I think Adobe is hard, like ridy.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:58:38 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good nightRidy
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 02:59:19 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night Jim. See you next week too.
- spider-mtc-th071.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 03:00:47 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Good night as well. Have a good week.
- spider-mtc-tj033.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 13, 2001 at 03:01:20 (GMT)
Birgit Hostert:
Hallo,einen schönen guten Abend wünsche ich allen.
- spider-fra-tc062.proxy.aol.com - Sunday, August 19, 2001 at 23:02:42 (GMT)
Ridy:
Grüß Dich, Birgit! Von wo meldest Du Dich?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Sunday, August 19, 2001 at 23:21:07 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hallo, Ridy und Birgit!!
- spider-wq072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 00:45:51 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Will you be in the Chat Room tonight?
- spider-wq072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 00:46:21 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone!
- spider-ntc-tc061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 00:48:53 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
For a change, I am not late!! Beautiful day in Canon City today.
- spider-ntc-tc061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 00:51:23 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Marilu. How was your week?
- spider-wq072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:01:57 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello Jim, busy as usual. I was beginning to think no one else was going to show up!
- spider-ntc-tc061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:06:05 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
How about you? Are your vacations over for awhile?
- spider-ntc-tc061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:07:26 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
It has been slow at times. It is hard to keep waiting. I wonder if there is a way to notify others that they are in the chat room automatically. For instance, if I leave a message and then go on to something else, it would be great if a notice could be given if someone else enters.
- spider-wq072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:07:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The vacations are over for a while. I may go to Chicago in November for a meeting but nothing solid is on tap until next March. Even then, we are not sure exactly where we are going.
- spider-wq072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:08:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
When I wrote-- it has been slow, I was referring to the chat room. Work has been busy. I think they stored the questions up until I got back.
- spider-wq072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:09:46 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Hi Jim and Marilu!
Are you still here?
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:10:20 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
The Caymans were great for scuba, good for snorkeling, and expensive for everything.
- spider-wq072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:10:36 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I don't think that is possible with this type of chat room. I am amazed that it saves our conversations, so we can go back and check things. My sister and I are going to New York in September. My first trip there.
- spider-ntc-tc061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:10:55 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Hallo, Ridy.
- spider-wq072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:10:56 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
How do they compare to the Bahamas? Never been anywhere else except Paradise Island -- and I didn't have to pay!
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:11:30 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I think everywhere is expensive anymore. Hi Ridy.
- spider-ntc-tc061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:11:59 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu,
Email me the dates when you get the chance. Perhaps we can meet. Are you coming in to sightsee or visit someone?
- spider-wq072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:12:39 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I know it will be expensive in New York!!!
- spider-ntc-tc061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:13:01 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We are sight seeing, and I would love to meet you. We will be there Sept 23- 28. the last two days we will be in DC. Would that be closer for you.
- spider-ntc-tc061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:14:14 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Caymans are notoriously expensive. More so than the other islands (some of which are not very cheap either). There is a lot of banking money in the Caymans along with scuba divers. The meals are overpriced and the service is average. I enjoy going for the water sports but I have reservations about the island as a whole.
- spider-wq072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:14:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
NY is expensive as well. So many things to see. What are you aiming to take a look at?
- spider-wq072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:15:30 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
NY is closer. I have only been to Washington once and do not know my way around. Where are you flying into --- Kennedy, LaGuardia, or Newark?
- spider-wq072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:16:31 (GMT)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I think my idea of visiting all the islands would be by cruise ship and observing them from the deck! I don't do the touristy stuff anymore and my mermaid days are over as well.
- 24.100.175.150.on.wave.home.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:16:40 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, I have never been to the Bahamas. I hear there are some good places there and the prices are comparatively reasonable especially in a package deal situation.
- spider-wq072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:17:39 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ellis Island of course and Statue of Liberty, Rockafeller Center, those types of things. I don't think we are going to do any broadway shows. Probably get lost a few times!! lolol
- spider-ntc-tc061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:17:45 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten abend. Sorry to be late. Grandkids left yesterday. Cleaning up the mess.
- A010-0152.KSCY.splitrock.net - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:18:05 (GMT)
Jim Heimann:
Not been on a cruise either. I am not sure I would like an island hopping trip. I like to get out and explore, take hikes, and swim,scuba,snorkel. I have heard that cruises are nice but can be highly caloric.
- spider-wq072.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:18:59 (GMT)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We are flying into Laguardia, on saturday the 22, late in the day.
- spider-ntc-tc061.proxy.aol.com - Monday, August 20, 2001 at 01:20:19 (GMT)
Margaret Jonke: