Plauderzimmer Log, Oct. '01 - Apr. '02
Helmuth:
Rotating the plauderzimmer logs again...enjoy the Fall weather everyone.
- 216.151.67.187 - Monday, October 29, 2001 at 14:52:24 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
My Impatients gave up two weeks ago when the temp. dropped to 24.
- 63.46.31.191 - Wednesday, October 31, 2001 at 06:08:02 (UTC)
Marianne Gliebe Farrell:
Wie Gehts everyone! I am new at this, my first time at this site. As you can imagine, I have many questions regarding our family history and I hope any of you can tell me anything no matter how trivial it may seem. farrellfarone@aol.com My sisters:Ingeborg GliebeLauner&Karen GliebeZimmerman Father:Alois Gliebe Mother:Magdalena Stolz Paternal Opa:Mathias Gliebe Paternal Oma:Maria Hutter(?)Gliebe Inge was born in Puber, Austria Karen and I were born in Chicago. I am 43 yrs old. Other names in family:Schnabel,Friedrich Gliebe etc Anything ring a bell? PS Franz, you're a riot! I speak Austrian dialect and also "proper German" (read &write also) You remind me of my mother--died at 64 in 1995--who had the ability to make you pee in your lederhosen with her jokes.I miss her terribly. Anyone out there, email me anytime! Vielen Dank! Marianne
- 205.188.196.43 - Wednesday, October 31, 2001 at 09:05:10 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Grüß Dich, Marianne, und ein herzlich Willkommen im Plauderzimmer!
Can you tell us the home villages of your parents and grandparents in Gottschee - that would help, since the surnames you mention are not uncommon.
- 24.100.175.150 - Wednesday, October 31, 2001 at 12:40:22 (UTC)
Sophia:
Hi Marianne. Welcome to the Plauderzimmer. Enjoyed your message and sense of humor. Your father, born in Hasenfeld, Gottschee arrived in America on September 6, 1914 at the age of 17. I sure hope this is the right person for it is the only one by that name on the Ellis Island Web Site.
If you are interested I have some recent photos of the village of Hasenfeld. Please feel free to drop me a note at wyants@mlecmn.net. Auf Wiederhöhren.
- 216.251.169.17 - Wednesday, October 31, 2001 at 14:53:54 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
http://afaz.gbi.de/cgi-bin/gbiwww
HELMUTH! Congratulations!
John Gladitsch told me about the article which was written about you and the Plauderzimmer in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung on Sunday, October 28, 2001. I have not yet been able to access the photographs which John supplied for the article, but I'm working on it. For all of you silently watching over my shoulders out there in cyberspace, I have copied the web address where you can find the article
EIN VIRTUELLER DORFPLATZ Die Nachkommen der Gottschee-Deutschen haben die Heimat ihrer Vorfahren neu geschaffen: im Internet
Translation: A VIRTUAL VILLAGE SQUARE: the descendants of the Gottschee-Germans have re-created the homeland of their ancestors on the Internet.
That instantly brings to mind Albert Belay's lovely poem, A VILLAGE SQUARE. . . .
Thanks Helmut -- we owe it all to you!
- 24.100.175.150 - Friday, November 02, 2001 at 21:45:02 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ok, I am here on time for a change....where is everybody else.
- 198.81.17.51 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:00:57 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Hi Everyone
- 209.240.222.130 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:11:20 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
They are all probably watching the baseball game! Anyone have the score?
- 209.240.222.32 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:12:23 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
John, so far everyone is you and me.
- 198.81.17.51 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:12:31 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, that figures..I am not a baseball fan so don't even watch the world series most years.
- 198.81.17.51 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:13:11 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Hi Marilu,
How are things going? Have you been working on your family history at all lately?
- 209.240.222.131 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:13:56 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten abend. A day to celebrate. Our CHiefs won a game! Hope you all had a good week. 60's here in KCMO.
- 209.255.144.194 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:15:42 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
John, working on my family history is all I do. However, right now I am printing books, not doing a lot of research. Our family history center has been closed for almost 2 months and sure hope it opens soon.
- 198.81.17.51 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:17:10 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
I'm not a baseball fan either. I do sometimes watch the world series, but have not been that interested.
- 209.240.222.132 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:17:20 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
John, where do you live?
- 198.81.17.51 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:17:37 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello Margaret
- 198.81.17.51 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:18:00 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Marianne: Welcome to our chatroom. I sign in as Jonke, but my married name is Murphy. The Gottscheers have married even the Irish.
- 209.255.144.194 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:18:18 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
It has been a beautiful Fall here. We have had highs in 60's most of this week. We really need moisture though. We got an inch of rain last week, but need a lot more.
- 209.240.222.130 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:19:03 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
I live in Ogden, Utah. I live about an hour north of Salt Lake City.
- 209.240.222.131 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:20:34 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We need rain really bad here in Canon City. Hope we gets lots of snow this winter. The mountains need the snowpack
- 198.81.17.51 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:21:49 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I just checked the score on the game. It is 0-0
- 198.81.17.51 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:25:45 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Everyone must be watching the Emmys or the World Series. Guess I will log off. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 209.255.144.194 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:25:56 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Sometime everyone logs on late.
- 209.240.222.131 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:27:32 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Thanks for the score update.
- 209.240.222.132 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:28:05 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
I'll try later. Everyone have a wonderful week.
- 209.240.222.32 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:28:56 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I think I will try later also.
- 198.81.17.51 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 02:32:39 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, its later....is anyone going to chat tonite???
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 03:14:16 (UTC)
Trix:
I am late. Just want to wish you all a good week.
- 209.240.245.95 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 03:48:59 (UTC)
Ridy :
We was robbed! I wanted the Yankees to win!
The worst part is that with the end of the World Series, summer is officially over.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 05, 2001 at 04:27:39 (UTC)
Helmuth:
Just wanted to say "thank you" Ridy for the article copy you sent me, and to John Gladitsch for finding it. Wish my German was better...but I will try to translate it this weekend. Have you ever seen freetranslate.com? I might be leaning on that heavily.
- 170.201.180.38 - Friday, November 09, 2001 at 11:52:46 (UTC)
Helmuth:
Correction, that's "freetranslation.com"
- 170.201.180.38 - Friday, November 09, 2001 at 11:53:58 (UTC)
Helmuth:
By the way Ridy...I'm a Yankees fan from way back. Ralph Houk was manager, Bobby Murcer, Joe Pepitone, Roy White, etc. However now I'm in a National League city so I was pulling for the Diamondbacks. But what a series! Now baseball wants to spoil it all with contraction. These days I prefer hockey, especially with Mario's comeback.
- 170.201.180.38 - Friday, November 09, 2001 at 12:03:15 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good evening. Is anyone around yet?
- 198.81.17.37 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:00:02 (UTC)
margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Will chat quickly. Have my 2 grandsons with me tonight--my No. Dak kids.
- 209.255.144.118 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:05:59 (UTC)
margaret Jonke:
Not too many people on. Will check back later.
- 209.255.144.118 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:07:03 (UTC)
Birgit Hostert Kraker:
Franz Mausser:
hallo Franz,wie geht es dir? Der Klaus musste kürzlich nach
Pforzheim zu einem Mann der eine Maschine für ihn reparieren sollte.Die Adresse hatte er von einer anderen Firma.Der Mann hieß Rudolf Hoegler.Als er nach Hause kam
erzählte er das meiner Oma. Beim Abholen der Maschine fuhr
mein Vater mit und es stellte sich heraus das der Bruder von
Oma's Onkel,der Großvater von dem Rudolf Hoegler war.
Oma und deine Mutter kannten die Mutter und Tanten von Rudolf Hoegler sehr gut.Der R.Hoegler geht nächstes Jahr wieder nach Kroatien(Pula).
- 195.93.66.171 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:08:56 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening to everyone.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:19:07 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello Jim there is not much going on here yet. Don't know where everyone is hiding.
- 198.81.17.37 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:19:59 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Grüß Dich Birgit ~
Ich bin eine geborene Hoegler. Interressant das es so viele Hoeglers in der Welt gibt! Ich wohne z.Z. in Toronto, und war in Kukendorf, Gottschee geboren.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:20:53 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Not sure. No World Series, no Emmies. I have been watching Band of Brothers but am taping it.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:21:00 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Marilu and Jim ~
I wasn't hiding - just typing slowly. It's getting cold up here and my fingers are getting stiff! We're getting awfully close to freezing temperatures. Yuck!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:22:00 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Ridy We had a beautiful day today.
- 198.81.17.37 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:23:40 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, can you ask Birgit for more information about her family and Rudolf's family? I am hopeful that I will have information on the Krakers and the Hoeglers.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:24:26 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
It is getting cooler here as well. Very windy.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:24:59 (UTC)
Trix:
Good Evening Marilu, Dr. Jim; Toronto Ridy, Margaret und Birgit. Also to all the others who usually join us Chicago Franz, Mr. Rabuse and Richard, the Cook Island man. Hope you are all doing well and had a wonderful weekend. We have had the most marvelous weather. Did laundry today and it all dried. No so in Europe. I am told that Italy and Slovenia had a mega blizzard on Friday. Imagine that!
I have enjoyed learning all (well probably far from all) about eBay and what fun it has been. Have made my first 3 purchases and so far excellent.
So, what's new with all of you?
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:26:32 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Hi Everyone!
- 209.240.222.32 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:26:38 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi John. Good to have you join us. How are you and what's new with you? Lets hear it John.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:27:58 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Trix and John.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:28:27 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello Trix. And tell me what are you buying on eBay.
- 198.81.17.37 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:28:58 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
I'm back. Had to check some laundry and grandkids' stuff. Will be on only a short while.
- 64.197.198.191 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:29:03 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Birgit:
Unser top Genealoge, Dr. Jim Heimann, würde gerne mehr über Eure und auch über Rudolf Hoegler's Familie wissen - von welchem Ort die Familien stammen, und wer die Eltern waren, und ungefähr die Geburtsdaten, damit er näheres nachforschen kann. Kannst Du ihm Auskunft geben?
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:29:17 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Trix and John ~ I think Eddie is in Hawley today. Is Franz back?
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:31:00 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, thank you for the compliment but others are better at it than I am. I am just persistent.
Trix, I emailed you the information that you wanted on Agnes Skoedl.
I am ahead of you guys. Did the laundry yesterday.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:31:33 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Hi Trix and Jim,
Nothing knew here. A little snow on the mountain tops above us. We have had some needed rain here in the valleys. Weather has been very warm for this time of year. Highs in high 50's and low's in the upper 20's.
As for the Hogler's I think the Agnes and the Ursula are the same person, but can't oonfirm that. Your hunches are probably pretty accurate.
- 209.240.222.130 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:32:34 (UTC)
Trix:
The biggest buy, I think, has been ink cartridges for our Canon printer. WHAT A BUY. Was a little nervous about the results but it is excellent. Imagine, buying them for $1.80 each. I pay around $7.00.
Also bought an Austrian hat from a lady in Vienna. That got a little more expensive but am anxiious to get it. Then I found a pair of beautiful socks to go with Amy's Dirndl, also from Europe. Paid $15.00 for them, including postage but they are beautiful.
This morning I bid on Epson Printer cartridges, Black and Colored and yesterday, with only 3 hours left on the auction bought daughter Maria 30 black cartridges for her printer. She got them for $1.20 each. So what can I say - it has been just a riot to find all the sites and find the bargains. Try it - YOU WILL LOVE IT. You, too, Ridy.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:32:48 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Really have some pressing work to do. Will be able to stay longer next week. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.197.198.191 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:32:51 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I got a rare treat today -- watched my son do his laundry! Never thought I'd live to see the day. And this time he didn't flood the apartment, either! Now he's on his way to San Diego -- approaching Colorado, Marilu.... When you see an Air Canada plane overhead, wave!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:33:52 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Hi Ridy,
How's the family doing? Hope good!
- 209.240.222.130 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:33:59 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: DID I HEAR YOU RIGHT, you did laundry? WOW, lucky Linda and good for you.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:34:10 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ok Ridy I'll be on the look out!!
I have a son who is a single father, and doing a very good job of it. cooks, does laundry, but does have some one help with the cleaning
- 198.81.17.37 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:35:25 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Thanks for asking, John. The kids (thirtysomethings) are fine. Caroline and David just bought their first house amd they get possession in 3 weeks. They're very excited.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:36:57 (UTC)
Trix:
Need to get my licks in. Have a son who is an excellent cook and a son in law who not only cooks but cleans and does laundry. Lets remember now, I am from the other generation. Should have been tougher in the beginning and now it's to late. Darn it anyway. I have learned though - am teaching the grandsons to be neat, put things back and put the stupid toilet seat down. OK you can laugh.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:37:24 (UTC)
Trix:
John: Do you still do a lot of genealogy? I know that you talked about it way back when. What a wonderful thing to do for all of you who have the interest, patience and dedication. We appreciate it.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:38:56 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Marilu --
My son-in-law is the one who does the cooking and laundry and even does ironing. Where were the men with those skills when I was young? I think it's wonderful when they can share some of the drudge work.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:39:28 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I am the laundry Meister. Mostly breakfasts and grill cooking but like to putter in the kitchen. Nothing gourmet but good enough to enjoy with wine.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:41:18 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Now I do resist the temptation to do ironing. I try not to wear things that either wrinkle or need pressing.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:42:08 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Trix:
Not nearly as much since I'm married, but spend at least 4-8 hours a week now. I get correspondence on a weekly basis from people who are interested in some of the research I've done. I'm currently working on my Mom's family in France. The microfilm became available thru the LDS church this Spring. I've been able to extract about 500 names so far on direct line descendants. To think only a few months ago I only had my mothers grandparents and that was sketchy information. Now I have at least four generations back on all my mothers lines. It is so exciting to find the information. I guess that is what motivates me.
- 209.240.222.130 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:44:33 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
One of the advantages of getting old is that you don't see the wrinkles which means you don't have to do so much ironing!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:44:39 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
John, I know what you mean. When I started working on the Peschel family, I didnt even know what county they came from! It is very exciting. I had never heard of Gottschee before.
- 198.81.17.37 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:46:11 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Has anyone heard of the place name -- Bezgarje ???
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:47:12 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I think that is what I enjoy the most about genealogy --- fitting information together and bringing a smile to someone's face.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:51:33 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Jim:
Do you have any idea where it might be located? Could it be a Parish?
- 209.240.222.130 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:51:50 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
It has gone quiet--- does that mean that everyone is trying to locate Bezgarje????
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:52:03 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Jim -
In my Josephinische Landesaufnahmen book is gives the nane Bezgarji as Wisgarn
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:52:47 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Don't know. It is in response to a posting. I checked the resettlement records and the given location was Bezgarje. Never heard of it. Probably in a neighboring district.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:53:04 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Jim:
I will check my list of place names in Krain and will let you know if I find anything close to that spelling.
- 209.240.222.32 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:53:08 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, does it say where Wisgarn is??
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:53:37 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: THANK YOU for your e-mail. I am tickled and grateful.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:53:49 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
I will be gone for about 15 minutes and will return for discussion.
- 209.240.222.131 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:54:22 (UTC)
Trix:
Mr. Rabuse: You can join us anytime. If you were at Lukan's how was it and what did you eat?
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:54:26 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I'm looking, Jim
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:55:20 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Hi all, I have to thank Jim and Trix for suppling the info you did on my father' village of Drandul. I have been working on entering all the info on my fathers mother's family tree which you gave me all the way back to 1700's
- 63.14.100.83 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:57:12 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ron, you are welcome.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:58:44 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy: Isn't the Josephinische Landesaufnahme collection just about one of the greatest documents anyone can have in their personal library? I love it and it was worth the $80.00 that it cost.
Also, I learned last week that the next book to be published by Dr. Mitja Ference and associates will be on the 416 (I think that was the number) of remaining Gottscheer gravestones. I understand they will inclue the photo, description and location of each of them. What a marvelous addition that will be to the Gottscheer preservation. No matter what some may think there is a lot of good, good stuff going on. Cooperation is the word. Not only does it bring results it also brings fun and enjoyment to all involved.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:59:31 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Jim, sorry I haven't responded but I had a long e-mail to send you when my computer crashed and I lost it. Next time I'll save before I get to long winded
- 63.14.100.83 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:00:24 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ron, when you get the opportunity, can you send more complete information on your father and his siblings? Do you know when they came over?
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:02:03 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi Ron. Welcome. Sorry that we are not directly related but with a name like Stalzer we are kin just the same. How is your father? Is he enjoying these discoveries or are they pretty overwhelming for him? Any chance that recognized the railroad station in Ursna Sela, right next door to Reuter? This is pretty darn exciting stuff.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:02:23 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Jim - I'll send you an e-mail with all the names in that section. I don't recognize any of them. It seems to all be Slovenian - probably just outside the border with Gottschee somewhere.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:02:52 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I just gave Linda the GHGA ordering list for two books to put under the Christmas tree.
Ron, that is very frustrating when the computer falls down and goes boom.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:03:32 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Yes, all but his brother Frank who got married in US in 1919. It's funny, but according to family records, my grandfather came over on the ship "Allen Balloon" which you confimed from the Ellis Island records to be the " A. Balden"
- 63.14.100.83 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:04:22 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
I should know better, but I'm afraid most of the work I've been doing lately has been in word and it has a failsafe so I don't loose unsaved files. Made me forget and get lazy.
- 63.14.100.83 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:05:48 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
I'm baaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccckkkkkkkkkk!
- 209.240.222.131 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:06:18 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Anyway, I'll send a short e-mail and get what format you are using for you geneology records. I have a program that converts spreadsheets and GED format to HTLM if that is of any interest to you.
- 63.14.100.83 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:07:19 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Trix:
Are they still working on the restoration of the Altlag Cemetery and Church or is it finished now?
- 209.240.222.130 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:07:51 (UTC)
Trix:
Have anyone of you read the 2 latest books published by the GHGA. The first being the Georg Widmer book and the second the book by Dr. Mitja Ference. Both are available and have been translated into English and are beautifully done. If you read them, what are your thoughts?
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:08:38 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ron, Franz was the brother of Heinrich?? I did not have that one. Was he from Ferdinand's first or second marriage? If you have any other information that you can share, please email it to me at DocH301454@aol.com. You never know when a little piece of information comes in handy.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:09:37 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Trix:
Sorry to say I haven't done so yet. I still haven't finished Ridy's!
- 209.240.222.130 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:09:50 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ron, I can use GED. I use the Family Tree Maker program.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:10:36 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Trix,
Those are the books that I want Santa to give me.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:10:59 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
no, sorry, His being Fredrich my grandfather, so that would be my father's Uncle. my grandfather was only married once, it was my great grandfather Andreas who married first maria petschauer then Gertrude Kobe. Franz would have been an child of the second marriage.
- 63.14.100.83 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:13:35 (UTC)
Trix:
John: Altlag is done including a new entrance, a parking lot, a beautiful iron gate and the first 3 memorial plaques in the wall (they will all be the same design) are in place and look great.
The church in Stockendorf, near Tschermoschnitz, in the eastern part has a new roof and work on the inside has begun but they ran out of money. The old Gottscheer custom of holding mass once a year in the outlying churches will return to Stockendorf hopefully next year. It will probably be the first time since 1941.
The church in Unterlag is coming along nicely as is the cemetery in Reintal. There are numberous other project being worked on. The Peter Kosler Gottscheer Verein of Ljubljana has moved into doing mega restorations in the west part of the former Gottscheer region. This is just great.
Also, the second International meeting of the Slovenian Genealogy Society will be held in 2003 again in Ljubljana. If any of you are members of the SGS you can see the great writeup of this first ever gathering and see the photo of all in attendance. They had a good, good time. Even the GHGA had 7 in attendance from the USA and 1 from Slovenia, including 3 presenters Elizabeth Nick, Kate Pruente and Ed Skender.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:14:24 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
I use GED, Family Roots (which is a foxpro database) and also Excell spreadsheets
- 63.14.100.83 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:15:38 (UTC)
Trix:
Well Ron and Dr. Jim - I have to tell you. Now you are speaking a foreign language. See the reason I don't do genealogy?
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:16:39 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Trix:
That is exciting. Are all of these churches being used as museaums or are the actually functioning Catholic churches?
- 209.240.222.132 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:17:28 (UTC)
Trix:
Ron, how old is your father? Did you say he still speaks Gottscheerisch? I would really enjoy chatting with him.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:17:49 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Trix - I have the German editions of those books. . . .are you asking what we think of the books or the translations?
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:18:02 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Anyway still trying to track down Maria Stalzer, Andreas mother) ancestors. I think they must be from another village, not Drandul. But the search goes on.
- 63.14.100.83 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:18:15 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ron, I will wait for your file. That will help me keep it straight.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:18:18 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Is there is also a church being restored in Hohenburg? I think I remember reading something about it. This where my favorite aunt came from.
- 209.240.222.132 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:19:04 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Trix - Sorry, my dad is 83, hard of hearing and doesn't speak Gottscheer anymore (hasn't since my grandmohter died. He said it might come back to him if he could hear better!!
- 63.14.100.83 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:19:58 (UTC)
Trix:
The main parish churches are used for Sunday masses. This includes Unterlag. The outlying churches were used only once a year and usually on a specific day even before. But I believe they were and probably are available for special events, i.e weddings.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:20:12 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy: I guess either but I am particularly interested in the new versions.
How are you doing lady?
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:21:45 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
I thought the Altlag church was used for masses and the Ebental, it that not the case any more?
- 209.240.222.132 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:21:54 (UTC)
Trix:
John: The remains of the church are being renovated and will be preserved. In fact that is being done now. There are walls that are still standing. When done photos will appear in the GC, I am pretty sure.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:22:51 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Trix - my dad was wondering about the chapel in Drandul that you were kind enough to send a photo of. Is it used for mass on Sundays or just special occasions.
- 63.14.100.83 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:23:16 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Thanks for the info Trix!
- 209.240.222.132 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:24:38 (UTC)
Trix:
John, you could be right. I believe Altlag and Ebental both were parish churches and still are. I have never been to mass at either but know that the church in Ebental has had a serious facelift too. It is possible that our trip next June will take us Ebental. It will all depend on who is going and where their villages are.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:24:51 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
I need to get to bed! Everyone have a good week.
- 209.240.222.130 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:25:12 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, when you go to Slovenia, are there any direct flights or is there a stopover?
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:25:44 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Yes - my aunt Frieda Mausser told me that Ebental is going to be renovated. When I saw it in 1963 it was just in ruins.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:25:46 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
I really wish I could go, but I would guess we are at least a couple of years saving money to make the trip. I can't wait till I'm able to do it.
- 209.240.222.131 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:26:37 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Setsch is the parish church for the Ebental parish now. It is in good condition and repair, I'm told.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:26:44 (UTC)
Trix:
Ron, the beautiful chapel in Drandul is used for special events only. When it was dedicated in June of 1999 we had 3 priests saying the mass, part Slowenien and part German, it was sung by the Gottscheer Choir from Cleveland, it had its first reading probably ever in English and was attended by around 250 plus people representing all parts of the world and many Slovenians living in the area. It was a great, great celebration. We also planted a Linden Baum (Linden tree) with everbody taking turns at throwing a shovel of dirt into the deep hole. You will have to visit it sometime Ron now that you know your Gottscheer connection.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:27:56 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Ridy:
Thanks for the info. I just assumed the Ebenthal church was still the parish church, but it makes sense if it was destroyed that it couldn't used. Was the church in Setsch spared during the war?
- 209.240.222.130 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:28:43 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
I would love to. Don't know how soon though.
- 63.14.100.83 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:29:40 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have 3 linden trees in my yard, not planted by me, but I think it is interesting to find they are in Gottschee also.
- 198.81.17.37 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:29:48 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim. Next years flight is scheduled from the USA (either Chicago or wherever) to Frankfurt. From there we fly via Adria Airlines (connected to Lufthansa of Germany) into Ljubljana. Same on the way home. We fly together to Frankfurt and then everybody goes their separate way. The airline, I am told, will be Continental.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:29:54 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I think it was spared, John. I'd have to ask my Tante Frieda. But it has the statue of St. Anthony of Padua from the church in Kukendorf, and the statue of the Blessed Virgin, from the church in Tiefental - because one of the Gottscheer ladies who still lives in Setsch rescued them and hid them in her barn, until it was safe to donate them to the church in Setsch.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:30:32 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
I never understood the German Club my dad was involved in was a Gottscheer Club. He never fully understood that either. (guess he wasn't very involved) but he always just refered to it as the Cleveland German Club.....
- 63.14.100.83 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:31:39 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Ridy:
I guess I assumed that they were all destroyed during the war. You learn something new every day.
- 209.240.222.32 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:32:11 (UTC)
John Herbst III:
Night all! Thanks for another interesting night.
- 209.240.222.32 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:33:49 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Actually, John, the churches which were destroyed in
Gottschee were destroyed long after the war by the Slovenians.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:34:01 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Well, nice chatting with you all. Trix and Jim, I'll send you e-mail soon. Thanks again.
- 63.14.100.83 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:35:23 (UTC)
Trix:
Marilu: The Linden Baum is the official Gottscheer Tree but I am thinking it has real meaning to the Slovenian people too. In fact the official newsletter of the SGS (Slovenian Genealogy Society) is called the Linden Baum report or something like that.
Ron: The GHGA (Gottscheer Heritage and Genealogy Assn.) makes the group trip every 3 years. If this continues to be the policy the next trip will be in 2005 which will also be 675 years since the Gottscheer settled the area. No doubt there will be events scheduled.
The big event next year will be the Gottscheer Roundtable 2002 hosted by the Honorable Janko Veber, Mayor of the City of Gottschee and the Peter Kosler Gottscheer Verein (club). It is scheduled for 11 a.m. on June 15, 2002 in the City of Gottschee and the first of its kind. Mr. Erik Krisch, President of the Kosler Verein is working hard on the program which will include a 10 year proposal on restorations, perhaps prioritizing them and other issues that can come out of a good dialogue when interested individuals sit around the table and share. Should be a very interesting gathering.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:35:42 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Time for me to pack it in as well. I hope everyone has a good week.
- 64.12.102.26 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:36:08 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
The Linden is a beautiful tree, but also the messiest one I have ever seen. would not cut mine down, but would never plant another either!!!! lol
- 198.81.17.37 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:37:24 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
G'nite all - time to catch some Zzzzzs.
Gütei Nocht!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:37:49 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Gute Nacht.
- 198.81.17.37 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:38:24 (UTC)
Trix:
Good night John, Ron and Dr. Jim. Take care.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:38:53 (UTC)
Trix:
Well, it has been another great evening of sharing and learning. THANK YOU one and all. Have a great week and think happy thoughts.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 03:39:46 (UTC)
Gonzo :
hello this is for possman
- 217.80.236.159 - Monday, November 12, 2001 at 14:31:17 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Terrible tragedy in Queens. Had aunts, uncles, cousins in Queens some years back. Any information on casualties there? Would you post it, if you find out. Thanks.
- 63.252.221.61 - Tuesday, November 13, 2001 at 02:19:23 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
HAVE JUST READ THE LONG ISLAND NEWSDAY AND DAILY NEWS LIST OF CASUALTIES..ON PLANE AND ON GROUND, I DID NOT SEE ANY GOTTSCHEER NAMES. WE PRAY FOR ALL THE NAMES AND THEIR FAMILIES.ARE YOU RELATED TO HELEN JONKE?
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, November 14, 2001 at 20:16:44 (UTC)
Trix:
Paul: THANK YOU. We appreciate your message. All of us Gottscheers so far removed from the New York area are constantly wondering and praying for the many Gottscheers in the area. Take care.
- 209.240.245.149 - Thursday, November 15, 2001 at 01:58:11 (UTC)
Trix:
Paul - am curious. Are you a Gottscheer? If yes, from where? Would enjoy hearing from you.
- 209.240.245.149 - Thursday, November 15, 2001 at 01:59:38 (UTC)
Carol Baldi:
Hello, I just discovered you. i see the names Yonke and Hutter mentioned by Margaret Jonke. My first husband, now deceased, was a Yonke, with Hutter grandparents. They lived in Cleveland, Ohio. Our daughter is very interested in connecting with cousins that may be out there. I'm not sure ow this works, but, am trying to send ths at about 2 a.m. Nov. 18, 2001. Please contact me carolbharmony@webtv.net
- 209.240.222.132 - Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 06:54:42 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Paul: My Tante Leni Jonke is called Helen by some people. I know she is safe. She now lives in Mahopac, NY. She lived in Queens many years ago. THank you for being concerned.
- 64.197.199.14 - Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 17:18:13 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Wie geht es Alles? Mir geht es gut. ANd that's all the German I can muster. Howdy, as we say in Missouri.
- 64.197.199.100 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:03:47 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Carol Baldi: I sent you an email, telling about my grandparents. Did you get it?
- 64.197.199.100 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:05:54 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening, Margaret.
- 64.12.106.36 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:06:50 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Our KC CHiefs are celebrating. They had a by week, so no chance of losing. Mr. Vermeil (?) is in a spot of trouble--he was the miracle worker. Not
- 64.197.199.100 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:08:16 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, I think he had the right idea about retiring after winning the Super Bowl
- 64.12.106.36 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:15:13 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
It is a little slow. I am bouncing around to see if I can find anything for Carol Baldi re: Franz Jonke and Gertrud Hutter. Seele looks like it might be the place in the Ellis Island records but I will have to look at the individual manifests.
- 64.12.106.36 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:16:37 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello from balmy Toronto! We had our big annual Santa Claus Parade today and for once nobody got frostbite!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:20:38 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone from cloudy Colorado. However, it was beautiful this morning watching the meteors. They were really something!
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:27:08 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Pretty slow tonight. Might log off soon.
- 63.252.223.96 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:27:27 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Carol Baldi: If you see my message, I just want you to know that Jonke is a very common surname. Each time I visit a new city, I check phone book and sure enough I usually find at least 1 Jonke or Yonke.
- 63.252.223.96 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:29:02 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Marilu - glad you got to see the meteors.... too much cloud cover here to see anything. Such a bummer, considering how long you have to wait for the next celestial show.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:31:02 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
It is a little slow. I am bouncing around to see if I can find anything for Carol Baldi re: Franz Jonke and Gertrud Hutter. Seele looks like it might be the place in the Ellis Island records but I will have to look at the individual manifests.
- 64.12.106.36 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:31:32 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Sorry about the double posting, the computer hiccupped.
- 64.12.106.36 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:32:12 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guess I will log off. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 63.252.223.96 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:33:45 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Patience is a virtue Margaret! You must have more patience. We're ready to start rolling now.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:34:53 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
The meteors were awesome. One made me gasp outloud, it was so showy!
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:35:21 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I've never seen it.
Do you get to see the Northern Lights in Colorado, Marilu?
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:37:46 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, we do not usually have the northern lights. However, a week or so ago they were visible here. However, I missed that. Got to see them growing up in Minnesota.
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:39:37 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
They're probably even more impressive in Minnesota than they are here. You couldn't miss those when we were up north at the Lake in years gone by.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:42:43 (UTC)
Trix:
Good Evening everyone. Hope you are rockin' and rollin'. Margaret, come on now, you can change your mind and rejoin us. Ridy, start us off, ok?
We have had rain all day but looks like sun will return tomorrow. Yippee. Have had absolutely beautiful weather.
Deer hunting is done with for another year. Imagine people talking about Christmas. Who has the time to even think about it?
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:43:21 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hey! I'm trying to talk myself into going Christmas shopping tomorrow, Trix! Don't talk me out of it!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:45:07 (UTC)
Jim:
The computer was very slow. Probably spending too many memory bits on genealogy that it got confused.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:45:18 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Trix I am working on feeding about 25 people for Thanksgiving before I start thinking about Christmas.
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:45:35 (UTC)
Jim:
Ah yes, Christmas shopping. I have already started to stock up on presents for Linda. Her birthday is in January so I have to load up for two occasions.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:46:05 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Jim - it must be those meteor showers! My server kept sending my messages back today with the notation that it did not recognize me! Another way of saying it doesn't want to know me, I guess!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:46:50 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy, I have to hand it to you. I am proud of you. I am doing my shopping via catalog this year. Plan to pick up only small things at the stores. No time to even think about going anywhere else. Even Respite helper are busy and are not available. So, caregiving takes top priority and the catalogs come in very handy.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:47:08 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Actually, Trix, I'll probably do most of the shopping online. I did that last year and was very happy with the results. Maybe we should all send our lists to Jim -- I don't know any other male who actually thinks ahead when it comes to gifts.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:48:31 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: I am pretty proud of you and your gift shopping too. And then Marilu - good for you. I am delighted to go to Clint's sister for our gathering but not until the first weekend in December. We will partake in the Community Turkey Dinner sponsored by the health care agency. It is just wonderful for them to do it. We started the Christmas Community Dinner by the area churches while I still chaired the Social Concerns at our church. It continues to be so very much appreciated. You know the old saying: If you don't use it, you loose it.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:50:51 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I think my grandkids are going to get $25 rolls of the gold dollars again this year. That will help greatly with my shopping. Then a toy or clothes to go with it. I acutally bought a Christmas present for one daughter today!
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:50:54 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
The Masons do the community Thanksgiving dinner here.
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:52:30 (UTC)
Trix:
So Dr. Jim, have you been out for dinner lately and did you try any good wines? Lordy, Lordy, here we go unto the food again. Sorry but could not resist.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:52:36 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lolol We neveer seem to get off the food and wine do we?? I was looking at some Slovenian receipes this weekend. I wish I was gutsy enough to try Poticia (spelling??)
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:54:33 (UTC)
Ridy :
Marilu -- that is not a difficult recipe at all. If you've ever baked bread, the dough will be a cinch. And then you just roll it out, as thinly as you can, put in the filling, roll it up, and there you are! If I can do it -- and I can -- so can you. It's worth the effort!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:57:23 (UTC)
Trix:
Marilu you CAN DO IT. Just follow the instructions. Have you ever gone and visited the Slovenia Culinary site? it is beautifully done and I use their recipe for Hungarian Goulash and Reis Fleisch all the time.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 02:58:40 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have baked lots and lots of bread, just worried about getting that dough stretched out thin enough and then rolled up! I know people here that make it, and it is wonderful!
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:00:00 (UTC)
Trix:
By the way talking about Potica, there is a bakery in Chisholm, MN which makes it. It sells for $7.40 for each and they send it anywhere. I served one yesterday to non-Germans and they went nuts over it. If you are interested let me know and I shall happily send you the web site.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:00:33 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes I have visited that Slovenian Culinary site. there are some good looking receipes there.
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:01:12 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Actually there is a bakery in Pueble Co about 30 miles away that sells it also. It is listed in one of the Slovenian sites.
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:02:08 (UTC)
Jim:
Trix, I shant talk of wine and victuals this evening. Been too busy with Gottschee genealogy. I hope this keeps my brain cells primed and away from senility. They say crossword puzzles exercise the brain so Gottschee genealogy should make it very muscular.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:02:37 (UTC)
Trix:
So tell me, everybody, what is new in your Gottscheer world?
I learned that the Slovenian Genealogy Society International will meet again in Ljubljana in Sept. of 2003. They plan to meet every other year. They had a group photo taken at their recent meeting and it is absolutely beautiful.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:02:42 (UTC)
Ridy :
Wow! That is cheap, Trix. There is a Slovenian lady here in Toronto who sells them, but she charges $20 -- and I think they're worth it. Even considering the fact that our loonie doesn't stack up well against your buck, the $7.40 is a bargain.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:03:03 (UTC)
Jim:
Trix and Carol,
Been poking around for the Jonke/Yonke family. I think I have them. I probably won't be able to take it back very far but I think I have the starting city. Trix, I have seen a town named Selle on the Ellis Island site. I am assuming this is Seele. Can you think of any other town spelled like that?
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:04:34 (UTC)
Ridy :
Victuals tonight, is it, Jim. We're really slumming there!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:04:39 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, if this keeps from senility, I guess we will have our brains long after we lose all the rest of the senses!! lol
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:05:05 (UTC)
Trix:
OK Dr. Jim. If it is a choice between that and Gottscheer genealogy stick to the latter. Learned a great phrase the other day. It is no longer a "Senior Moment" but rather "An Intellectual Interruption". Isn't this just great? I LOVE IT.
What happened to Chicago Franz for heaven sakes. We didn't offend him did we"
And Mr. Rabuse thought he would join us tonight. And, lets not forget to send greetings to Cook Islands Richard.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:05:40 (UTC)
Ridy :
What senses, Marilu? :)
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:05:58 (UTC)
Jim:
Carol, I will email you further but will post a little something here. I have Franz, Gertrud, Frank, and Josef travelling to and fro from Gottschee to Cleveland to New York and obviously back to Cleveland. Frank Sr. is listed as an engineer. Does Hudson, New York ring a bell in the family lore?
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:06:51 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, some days you are right...what senses?
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:07:07 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim, it is Seele and still quite a beautiful village. We spent some quality time there in 1999. The church, which sits on the top of a little hill in the middle of town is in excellent condition.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:07:16 (UTC)
Jim:
Okay, I guess it is back to food ---- can't wait to sink my teeth into some fresh cooked turkey and stuffing/dressing. We go to my sister's house in Connecticut and consume large amounts of food. Not quite as much as we used to but still a considerable amount of both solid and liquid calories.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:09:20 (UTC)
Jim:
I received an email from Franz. I thought he might be in tonight. I should be seeing him the week after Thanksgiving when I head to Chicago for a meeting.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:10:34 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We are having turkey and ham, and I make awesome dressing if I may say so myself.
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:10:39 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
And I have orders for green tomato pie.
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:11:27 (UTC)
Jim:
Well, Trix, then I think it is a lock ---- The Jonke family most likely hailed from Seele at some point. I will try to piece it together from multiple ship manifests. Unfortunately I do not have much information on that parish.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:11:59 (UTC)
Ridy :
Shucks - makes me feel real left out! We had our Thanksgiving a month ago and the left-overs are all gone. Hmmm, maybe I'll find an excuse to sneak next door to my neighbour's on Thursday and share their American turkey.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:12:08 (UTC)
Eddie Rabuse :
Good evening everyone.Food,now you're talking!
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:12:18 (UTC)
Ridy :
Interesting - - green tomato pie. . . does it look like green tomato when it's baked?
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:13:29 (UTC)
Ridy :
Hi Eddie! Make yourself comfortable and join right in!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:14:09 (UTC)
Jim:
Marilu, I will be taking the next flight out. I just can't resist a nice dressing steeped in gravy and hot out of the oven. Best wines should be in the Alsatian white category such as a Gewurtztraminer or maybe a lighter red with some spice to it like a Syrah or Shiraz. Maybe even Boone's farm. Oh well, I slipped back into wine and food. I am sooo weak.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:14:25 (UTC)
Jim:
hello, eduard. Wie geht's?
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:15:00 (UTC)
Ridy :
Buck up, Jim, it's all for a good cause.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:15:19 (UTC)
Trix:
Mr. Rabuse: IT IS ABOUT TIME! Only kiddin'. Welcome!
Marilu: Would you share the dressing recipe? I have never had green tomato pie so will join ready in learning all about it.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:15:40 (UTC)
Eddie:
Speaking of goulash, Trix, I followed Martha Stewarts goulash recipe last week- 5lbs. meat and 5 lbs. onions.That's a lot for 2 people! What do you think? Boy, was I full!!!
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:16:04 (UTC)
Ridy :
Eddie, you crack me up! lololol
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:16:56 (UTC)
Eddie:
Hi Jim. Mir gehts gut, Danke!
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:16:57 (UTC)
Jim:
I will try to be strong for you, Ridy. I will steel myself with thoughts of liver and cauliflower along with a cheap bottle of California chablis.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:17:16 (UTC)
Trix:
What do I think? I am laughing hysterically. Cute start, very cute start. You are amongst friends you lucky guy you.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:17:33 (UTC)
Ridy :
No need to go quite that far, Jim. . . .
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:18:13 (UTC)
Jim:
My mom will be there for Turkey Day. I may try to have her write down her secret recipe. I haven't had it for so long.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:18:58 (UTC)
Trix:
My last memo was meant for Mr. Rabuse. Sorry, forgot to say so.
By the way DANKE for the lovely, lovely photos. Beautifully done!
Ridy, I meant to say I am joining you in learning all about the green tomato pie.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:19:05 (UTC)
Trix:
OK time to move on. Lets get serious for a moment. How is everybody? How has Sept. 11 affected you? What are your thoughts about where we are going and are we going to get there?
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:20:39 (UTC)
Ridy :
I've been working on my 'cookbook' all day today, and much of last week. If anyone wants to send along a recipe, I'll include it - maybe -. I promised my daughter that she and her friends will get copies of all my favorite recipes for Christmas this year.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:21:17 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I could email the recipes if you like. Yes, green tomato pie looks like green tomato after it is baked. I use nutmeg for spices, and the pie delicious. My kids all grew up loving green tomatoe pie and blood sausage. How unusal can that be for this day and age. that was my dad's favorite pie also. I only like pecan better.
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:21:21 (UTC)
Jim:
Skipping back to emigrations ---- I have been running across large numbers of Gottscheers in Joliet, Illinois and a smaller group in Norwood, Massachusetts. I spoke with two Eppiches from Norwood and they had no idea about where they came from but did remember enough names to link them up. Did they ever have a Gottscheer club in Joliet? There were many Gottscheers there.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:21:27 (UTC)
Eddie:
Ridy, do have Thanksgiving day up there, or are all the turkeys down here in the states?
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:22:01 (UTC)
Trix:
Well, I like blood sausage with sauerkraut and mashed potatoes with Kreiplein. And I LOVE pecan pie with a cup of decaffeinated coffee too.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:22:45 (UTC)
Jim:
The fall has slipped away so quickly because of Sept.11th. Sort of a haze. It is lifting but will quickly come back if there are more terrorist attacks. I am sure that there would have been more if the government had not rounded up as many people as they did.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:23:44 (UTC)
Ridy :
Eddie - we have our Thanksgiving on the second Monday in October -- it has come and gone. We do have turkeys up here, but we try to send as many as possible south of the border.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:23:47 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, some day I hope to do a family cookbook for our family too. Traditions should not be lost. Of course we are always making new ones in this family also!
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:24:21 (UTC)
Eddie:
Blut wurst! Just picked some up at Forest pork store the other day. Great meal but don't have it too often, not at our age!
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:24:34 (UTC)
Franz:
Knock, knock: May I come in?
- 63.155.154.198 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:25:01 (UTC)
Ridy :
How does one send 'welcome hugs' on the PZ? There's one going out to Franz from Toronto!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:25:49 (UTC)
Jim:
The big problem is what do we do now. Defeating the Taliban was easier than most people thought and I am sure it is not over. The hard part will be figuring out what is going to happen in Afghanistan after the war. It is another part of the world where there is incessant conflict and ethnic bloodletting.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:26:03 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy..you are too funny! lol
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:26:04 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Franz!! Hello!! where have you been??
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:26:44 (UTC)
Jim:
Trix, I give up on current events for tonight. Food wins out. Hello, Franz.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:27:29 (UTC)
Trix:
I don't think Joliet ever had a Gottscheer Club but they should have. The same goes for Vancouver, Canada. You know all it takes is one person to plan the seed.
I always thought that my grandfather came to St. Paul, MN. until Helen sent me the manifest of the ship. It showed he went to Joliet because his brother lived there. Now I have a bunch of second cousins there with little interest, so far at least, in their Gottscheer heritage. There is o doubt about it - when the Gottscheers came to America years ago they left their homeland behind, not only physically but mentally too. They were Americans. Imagina that, after all these years it is now our generation that is linking so many to their past. Quite a gift I think that we are able to do that. I mean, after all, there is a beginning for each and everyone of us. People say to me, from time to time, why are you working so hard on Project Gottschee? Why? It is my beginning. That is who I am, that is where I was born. I can't imagine not wanting to help others discover their roots too. Besides when you have cheerleaders like Dr. Jim, who does such a marvelous job, it's easy to get things done.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:27:46 (UTC)
Franz:
Marilu, here, there, everywhere and nowhere.
- 63.155.154.198 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:28:09 (UTC)
Trix:
Did I hear Chicago Franz announcing his presence? Well how about that, Franza, bu bisch Dü geban or Franz, where have you been?
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:30:19 (UTC)
Ridy :
Eddie - are you being too polite to speak up?
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:30:29 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, I know my Peschel family forgot their homeland, and I am very lucky that I found any trace of it for my generation.
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:32:20 (UTC)
Eddie:
I'm back. Hi Franz. Now, about my volvo....!!!
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:32:31 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Franz how are things in the windy city?
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:32:53 (UTC)
Trix:
Oh, my God Mr. Rabuse, are we still talking about the Volvo? How is it running anyway?
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:34:12 (UTC)
Franz:
Eddie, how would you like your Volvo? Well done? wrapped or plain swede?
- 63.155.154.198 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:34:41 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lolololoololol
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:35:01 (UTC)
Jim:
I figure that with computerization, later generation will be able to backtrack fairly easily but the bridge needs to be made with the old records before that knowledge is lost. Both of the people in Norwood were relatively uninterested but they did take down the information that I was giving them and there may be someone else in the family that will be interested later on.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:35:33 (UTC)
Trix:
Now there you are talking Franz. Quite a statement.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:35:33 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I think my husband is wondering why I am sitting here laughing out loud!
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:35:42 (UTC)
Eddie:
Like a top! Should be good for another 12 years! How's that for a plug, Franz?
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:35:42 (UTC)
Jim:
I will stick with my Accords. The rest of the family is partial to German engineering and good old VWs. Sorry, no Volvos.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:36:25 (UTC)
Franz:
Marilu, Windy City is still surviving but I have no idea what will happen when Jim arrives.
- 63.155.154.198 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:36:30 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, I am looking forward to our meeting.
- 63.155.154.198 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:37:13 (UTC)
Trix:
Marilu, forgive my ignorance but tell me what do you mean by "lololo" when you write it? Hey, it is o.k. I have much, much yet to learn about the English language.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:37:13 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Chicago may never be the same again!
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:37:15 (UTC)
Eddie:
I have to learn to type faster. By the time I finish I miss 8 posts!
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:37:29 (UTC)
Jim:
Eddie, is Franz paying you for the advertisement? What was the name of money in Gottschee anyway --- marks or something else?
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:37:38 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lolol means laughing out loud. it is chat room talk for laughter.
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:38:01 (UTC)
Ridy :
Money in Gottschee was Dinar and Gulden
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:38:28 (UTC)
Jim:
Franz, I am also looking forward to it. Give me a buzz or email me your telephone number. I have something going on Tuesday night but the other nights are free at this point.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:39:20 (UTC)
Eddie:
Yes Jim. Franz is paying me. Isn't that right Franz?
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:39:32 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
what value has each, dinar and gulden?
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:39:45 (UTC)
Trix:
The money today is Tolar. It used to be what Ridy? Krone?
Marilu: Thank You. Got it and practice it all the time including tonight. It is good for the soul.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:39:48 (UTC)
Jim:
Interesting --- dinar is more Eastern European and gulden is very dutch sounding.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:40:00 (UTC)
Jim:
Free tune ups I presume but then you have to get the car out to Chicago to collect. Franz is a shrewd car salesman.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:40:56 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy: Dinar was a Yugloslavian name, right? And Gulden, the German?
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:41:32 (UTC)
Ridy :
Back in the 1930s when I was born an American dollar was worth 60 Dinar. At least, that's what it says in my book and I'm sticking by that, Marilu
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:42:01 (UTC)
Franz:
I think it used to be Kronen and Gulden. It became Dinars under Yugo Government. Am I right Trix and Ridy?
- 63.155.154.198 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:42:50 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy, I know that a dollar was a lot of money then. So am I correct in assuming that 60 Dinar could buy much?
I remember my father telling the story that one Christmas my parents really did not know where their next meal would come from. Then, a letter arrived from America and a$5.00 bill from my aunt. My father bought a Rucksack full of food and my mother started baking at midnight. I used to get very emotional hearing that story and I am pretty sure that they were not alone in that situation.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:44:26 (UTC)
Ridy :
Franz - I'm sure you are correct.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:44:44 (UTC)
Eddie:
I have a question. On a passport, when they ask you for place of birth, do you give them the old Gottscheer name or the new Slovenian name? Just curious.
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:45:33 (UTC)
Trix:
Hey, would I debate Chicago Franz? NEVER. Sounds good to me too.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:45:39 (UTC)
Franz:
Eddie, have you been able to cash the Dinars I sent you for plugging Volvos? Ridy, vergelts Gott for filling my order.
- 63.155.154.198 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:45:56 (UTC)
Ridy :
You are right, Trix -- $5 was a LOT of money back then. My aunt told me that recently, and she stressed the 'lot'. . .
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:46:24 (UTC)
Eddie:
No Franz, those Dinars bounced!Thanks a lot!!!
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:47:55 (UTC)
Ridy :
Eddie - I always use the German "Gottschee" but on my last passport they made me change 'Slowenien" to "Slovenia". . . before it declared independence they didn't have a clue where it was anyway.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:48:10 (UTC)
Trix:
Mr. Rabuse, let me share what happened to me and my passport. Originally it stated that I was born in Yugoslavia. Of course in 1936 it was Yugoslavia. In 1996 I had to renew my passport and changed it to Gottschee. I applied 3 months before my June trip. I didn't come and didn't come. Has anybody ever tried tracing a passport with the US Government. Don't do it if you don't have too. They picked up the change in "land of birth" and it became a big mystery and it was examined and examined and delayed and delayed. After tryint to explain to them why I had done I finally gave up, told the hell with, leave it as it is. That took care of that.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:49:47 (UTC)
Jim:
Way to fly the Gottschee flag, Ridy !!!!
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:50:17 (UTC)
Franz:
Trix,a good debate is always fun.
- 63.155.154.198 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:50:35 (UTC)
Jim:
Trix, amazing that they would pick that up but not the fact that someone is a suspected terrorist. Bureaucrats, humpph.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:51:24 (UTC)
Trix:
Franz, you may be right but I lost and am still sad about that. Maybe next renewal date I will submit an Affidavit of Identity and try to switch it to Gottschee, Slovenia. That would make me very happy.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:52:01 (UTC)
Jim:
Now, krone--- what happened to marks? Krone is Danish or was it also Austrian?
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:52:17 (UTC)
Eddie:
Thank you ladies. Maybe I shouldn't have asked. I more confused than ever!
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:52:27 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: GREAT POINT!
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:52:35 (UTC)
Ridy :
Kronen and Gulden was also Austrian. Marks was and is German.
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:52:51 (UTC)
Trix:
Mr. Rabuse: What are you confused about? Lets have it.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:53:37 (UTC)
Franz:
Eddie, if those Dinars bounced you must have used the wrong Bank.
- 63.155.154.198 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:53:38 (UTC)
Franz:
Right on Ridy.
- 63.155.154.198 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:54:11 (UTC)
Jim:
Well I can say that I learned something new. I never thought to ask about the terms for money. Now I know.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:54:22 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have learned something new also, as I usuaully do in this chat room. One of the reasons why I like it. And the wonderful company!
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:55:16 (UTC)
Jim:
The Bavarian half of me can buy my beer with marks and the Gottscheer half can spend the gulden and krone.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:55:26 (UTC)
Ridy :
Just think -- when the Euro takes over, you won't have to worry about Marks and Schillings and whatever! I already got an invoice from Germany in Euros!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:56:18 (UTC)
Trix:
Actually Dr. Jim I think the Gottscheer half will be spending Tolars. I don't think there are any more Gulden or Krone there. Ridy, what you think?
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:57:06 (UTC)
Eddie:
Trix. What do you suggest that I write. Haselbach,Yugoslavia, or Leskovec, Slovenia, or Gottschee,Yugoslavia.
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:57:10 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
My husband was just wondering why I am sitting here laughing so much tonite!
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:57:51 (UTC)
Jim:
I think it is time to pack it in for the night. Monday appears to be quite busy and I don't even know if anything else popped up over the weekend. Take care. Have a good week and a Happy Thanksgiving. I will be in Chicago next Sunday so maybe I will have to borrow Franz's computer.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:58:06 (UTC)
Trix:
I plan to write: Gottschee, Slovenia
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:58:07 (UTC)
Ridy :
Haven't got a clue what they use now, Trix. . . .
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:58:16 (UTC)
Franz:
Marilu, any trace of snow in Co?
- 63.155.154.198 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:58:18 (UTC)
Ridy :
Eddie - weren't you born when it was Deutsches Reich?
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:59:10 (UTC)
Jim:
I will bring my gulden and spend them whereever I please. If they don't like it, I will be forced to use dollars.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:59:11 (UTC)
Eddie:
How about Kocevje, Slovenia so as not to confuse them.
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:59:13 (UTC)
Ridy :
'Nite, Jim! See ya!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:59:38 (UTC)
Trix:
Sorry, Mr. Rabuse, Haselbach is in Untersteiermark isn't it? If so you should probably write Haselbach, Slovenia. It was not part of Gottschee. Am I confused on this?
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:59:42 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Franz, we had clouds and a little rain here in Canon City, so I am sure the mountains got snow today and tonite. They had some about a week ago also.
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:59:47 (UTC)
Eddie:
Yes, Ridy. You are correct, as usual!
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 03:59:58 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, I call you tomorrow, yes you are welcome to my computer.
- 63.155.154.198 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 04:00:07 (UTC)
Eddie:
Goodnight Jim.
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 04:01:05 (UTC)
Trix:
Well friends. Time to call it a night. Have a good week everyone, stay well and think happy thoughts.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 04:01:28 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Goodnight Jim Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Jim maybe you and Franz can take turns on the computer next Sunday.
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 04:01:40 (UTC)
Franz:
Gute Nacht, Gottscheer.
- 63.155.154.198 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 04:02:07 (UTC)
Jim:
One last note--- I believe Franz is correct. I think Eddie could actually claim German citizenship based on his birthyear. At that time, the Untersteiermark area was under German control. I hope that confuses everyone even more as I ride off into the sunset.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 04:02:08 (UTC)
Trix:
Forgot - HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all of you (even you Ridy) and to Cook Island Richard and Margaret too. Enjoy a wonderful holiday and a wonderful meal.
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 04:02:53 (UTC)
Jim:
Sorry, it was Ridy that mentioned the correct governing nation in 1943.
- 64.12.102.28 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 04:03:00 (UTC)
Ridy :
Happy Trails to You, Jim. . . .
Every party has a pooper, and you're IT tonight!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 04:03:04 (UTC)
Eddie:
Time to turn in also. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.
- 152.163.207.212 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 04:03:14 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have to learn this language. Gute Nacht, Gottscheers.
- 198.81.16.54 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 04:03:41 (UTC)
Ridy :
Oh, all right. . . if everyone is leaving, I'll turn in as well. Gute Nacht!
- 24.100.175.150 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 04:04:11 (UTC)
Franz:
Happy turkeys.
- 63.155.154.198 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 04:05:10 (UTC)
Paul Brasino-Adie Jaklitsch:
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone & God Bless..
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, November 19, 2001 at 19:29:28 (UTC)
Sophia:
I happily join Paul and Addie in wishing all the visitors to the Plauderzimmer a wonderful Thanksgiving Holiday. In the proud Gottscheer tradition enjoy good food and a good glass of wine and think happy thoughts.
- 209.240.245.86 - Thursday, November 22, 2001 at 11:06:58 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
My e-mail address has changed as of today. I can now be reached at ridy@sympatico.ca
Thank you!
- 64.229.234.200 - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 00:04:46 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Ich hoffe alles ist gut mit Dir. Thanks to Trix, I can add a little more German to my greeting.
- 209.255.144.163 - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:02:34 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Pete and John Yonke atried to get a rubbing from the grave marker of Mathias Jonke, my great-grandfather on my oma's side of the Jonke family. Mathias was her father.Very confusing having the same name before and after marriage, but that's how it was with my oma.
- 209.255.144.163 - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:06:38 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Where is everybody? Think I will log off.
- 209.255.144.163 - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:15:54 (UTC)
Trix:
Margaret: You cannot be leaving so early in the evening. Some of us are a little slower than you. You must give us a chance to catch up with you. By leaving you are missing out on many good conversations.
Now, lets go back to the Yonke grave. In which cemetery is it? Altlag, Mitterdorf or where?
Greetings to one and all. Remember Dr. Jim and Chicago Franz are pigging out about now in Chicago. Darn it anyway but I am sure they will have a great evening.
- 209.240.245.161 - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:22:04 (UTC)
Trix:
Margaret: You did pretty darn good on the German. Just a minor change: When you talk to just an individual you say "Dir". When you are talking to the group, like in the Plauderzimmer, it is "Euch". That's the tough part of the German. Just stick with it - YOU CAN DO IT.
- 209.240.245.161 - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:24:26 (UTC)
Trix:
Come to think of it Margaret may be right after all. Perhaps no one will log on tonight. I am not leaving for a while anyway. Don't want to miss anything.
- 209.240.245.161 - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:25:47 (UTC)
PAT:
TRIX: I'M NEW AT THIS, BUT WANT TO GIVE IT A SHOT, THANKS FOR INFORMING JIM TO ASSIST ME IN THE SEARCH OF MY STONITSCH FAMILY, MATHIAS, JOSEFA, FRANZ AND MARIA, WAS SO HAPPY THAT I SHARED WITH ALL MY RELATIVE,
- 204.186.25.36 - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:29:46 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
I'm back. Had to put in some laundry. My oma was born in Lichtenbach (?) so I guess it was there. Not sure. That's how Pete got his shoulder hurt--he jumped over the cemetery wall.
- 209.255.144.146 - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:38:35 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Thank you for the Dir und Euch. I'm getting quite a few phrases in my little German book. Thanks again. Hope I get the email from Pete straightened out. My husband will have his computer whiz at work look at it. Will keep you informed.
- 209.255.144.146 - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:40:29 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone. I wanted to say Hi but I have grandkids spending the night, so I may not get to chat much. We had a wonderful thanksgiving dinner here. All the kids and grandkids were here, including some neighbors so we had a full house. And the dressing was wonderful! Outdid myself this year. lolol
- 198.81.17.174 - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:44:53 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Must go. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 209.255.144.146 - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:50:36 (UTC)
Trix:
Good Night one and all. Have a good, good week and think happy thoughts.
- 209.240.245.161 - Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:58:06 (UTC)
Heinrich Stalzer:
Dear John Turney! re' YOUR WEBSITE
I grew up in Slovenia, and, now, almost 60 years old, finally find out that the Gottscheers were not expelled from their land during the war, but were
instead resettled to better farm land, by the Nazis, to separate them from what was to become Italy, vs. what was to become Germany! Furthermore, this resettlement was not universal or mandatory, in that some chose to stay, and
were not in trouble as a result. On the other hand, the area settled to, having been occupied by Slovenes, who where unceremoniously expelled from their own land, without compensation, many never returned alive! I do not
know if, or how, these Slovenes were ever compensated, as the Gottscheers were. I do know that the Gottscheers consider themselves guiltless in this, and have never apologized to the Slovenes, to this day! With one exception; a good friend of mine, remaining anonymous, returned to the house in which he
had lived, and apologized to the inhabitants, because he had lived in their house, while they were expelled from their own home! His apology was accepted, without any recrimination!
I wish that more than just one Gottscheer would "fess up" to this culpability, and apologize, as only one person, to my knowledge, has done to date. Its not a matter of getting even with the guilty, by forcing them to apologize; an apology has a cleansing effect to both sides! It can clear the air, where all can look each other in the eye again; and, smile!
Heinrich Stalzer
- 24.253.155.205 - Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:36:19 (UTC)
:
Heinrich Stalzer, PLEASE FESS UP!!!
- 172.161.221.14 - Friday, November 30, 2001 at 01:14:22 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
It's the 1st Sunday of Advent already - although going by the temperatures we're having, you wouldn't think so! Does anybody remember all the words to "Leise rieselt der Schnee" -- I can only rmember the 1st stanza. . . .
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 01:37:32 (UTC)
Ridy:
Oh dear! I've lit the logs in the fireplace, put on the music, made some hot cider, and nobody has come to join me in the Plauderzimmer -- yet. It's getting lonely here!
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:18:37 (UTC)
Jim:
Ridy, just checking in. Are you still on? I guess you can't tell who is online since you have switched addresses.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:19:56 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Ridy. How are you tonite. We are having nice weather here again also.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:20:28 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy what is the English title to the song you were trying to sing?
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:21:16 (UTC)
Jim:
Hi, Marilu. How are you doing in Colorado? Didn't you just get hit with a major snowstorm?
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:21:26 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim how was Chicago. That major snowstorm missed us in Canon City. We had a few flurries that was it.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:22:52 (UTC)
Jim:
Just finished (or almost finished) with putting up the outside decorations. A good four hours worth of work. Still a couple of odds and ends to do but substantially out of the way. Looks good. I wish the elves would do it especially in some of the colder years.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:23:29 (UTC)
Ridy:
Hi Jim and Marilu!
Yes - I have switched back to Sympatico and my new (old) e-mail address is ridy@sympatico.ca I thought I had managed to inform everyone in my address book, but it looks like quite a few of my cyberspace buddies didn't get the change.
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:24:27 (UTC)
Jim:
Chicago is a great town. Franz and Barbara were very gracious and generous. Had dinner with them on Sunday and then with Franz on Wednesday. They also drove me around to see some of the beautiful sights.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:24:49 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hopefully my hubby will get the decorations up Wednesday as that is his day off.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:25:17 (UTC)
Ridy:
Marilu - I guess a very loose translation would be "the snow is gently falling"
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:25:40 (UTC)
Bill Gregory:
Could one of you Plauderzimmer Regulars please tell me the meaning of the German word auszügler? It occurs in the resettlement records and is apparently an occupation. Might it mean 'retired' .... I notice that it is commonly used for elderly persons.
- 12.92.24.188 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:26:47 (UTC)
Trix:
Good evening from Waukenabo. Geez, Ridy, wish I were closer I would love to join you for a cup of tea. I am thinking maybe you would make Glühwein?
I send you the words to Leise Rieselt der Schnee.
Does anybody know where I can find a chronology from the Sept. 11 event to current. In other words, the attack happened, then what, who did what etc etc etc. DANKE
Yes, Dr. Jim we need to hear all about you and Chicago Franz.
And Marilu, hi to you too.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:26:59 (UTC)
Ridy:
It'll take me another week or two before I get into the Christmas decorating spirit -- but it's nice to look out and see all the decorations our neighbours have put up.
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:27:08 (UTC)
Jim:
Linda and I do the outside decorations together and try not to get too frustrated with the many lights that worked just last year, worked when they were put in the attic, and now no longer work. How does that happen???
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:27:31 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Thanks Ridy...we are hoping for lots more snow here. And it is usually beautiful here when it snows. We do not get much wind with it.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:27:36 (UTC)
Jim:
I wonder if Franz will sign on this evening. He checked in last Sunday after dinner but everyone had signed off by then.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:28:39 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Sorry to be late. Hope all had a good week.
- 63.252.224.202 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:28:44 (UTC)
Ridy:
To Bill Gregory -
as near as I can tell, it simply means someone who is leaving one place for another.....someone who is moving out.
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:29:40 (UTC)
Trix:
Margaret, promise me that you will stick around tonight. We miss you when you leave us early in the evening. Tell us, what is going on your part of the world?
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:30:12 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, I think there is a grinch that does something to those lights when they are in storage!
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:31:13 (UTC)
Jim:
Bill, someone told me that it means pensioner or someone who is retired and no longer working.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:31:39 (UTC)
Bill Gregory:
To Ridy -
Thanks for the translation. My German-English Dictionary was no help.
- 12.92.24.188 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:31:51 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Forrrtunately the CHiefs didn't play today. They lost again last Sunday and Thursday. People say the only fun at the game is tail gating. Warm here today 60's. Xmas decorations are up. THat's all. Hope to drive to Fargo for Xmas. Weather permitting.
- 63.252.224.202 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:32:59 (UTC)
Ridy:
Jim - it would seem that the word was used that way, but I've never heard it used in that context. It comes from Auszug which means departure. . .
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:33:04 (UTC)
Trix:
Had a call today and was asked if I knew where Ugovizza is located. It is supposed to be about 15 km or so west, or southwest of Villach, Kärnten, Austria. In my mind that might be either Italy or Slovenia. Anybody? Thanks.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:34:13 (UTC)
Bill Gregory:
To Jim -
Ditto the thanks. That seems to fit well since all those in that status seem to be elderly.
- 12.92.24.188 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:34:47 (UTC)
Trix:
Agree, Ridy. Looked it up in the German - English Dictionary.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:36:15 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Don't mean to run away, but work calls louder than the chat room. Sorry. Will try to hang on a little longer tonight.
- 63.252.224.202 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:36:40 (UTC)
Trix:
Auszügler - an interesting word to be used, don't you think? Why would they use that kind of description I wonder. Well, you know me, I have an inquiring mind and like to know. Why didn't they just say retired.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:38:15 (UTC)
Trix:
Ugovizza anybody?
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:39:21 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Throw the stupid lights and get a new set. By the time you try to figure out which bulbs is gone you can be at the store and back home. Take it from someone who kows - been there - done that. Not worth the hassle.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:40:33 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim and Chicago Franz: GREAT PHOTO!!!
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:40:59 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ok what photo, I did not get one!!!
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:41:44 (UTC)
Ridy:
Right on, Trix -- I think we can use Franz and Jim as Gottscheer pinup boys!
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:42:20 (UTC)
Jim:
Exactly what we did for the most part. Had to piece one of the sets together because it matched with something we already had out. However, throwing something away is not an easy thing for the Gottscheer part of me. Frugality is majesty.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:42:30 (UTC)
Ridy:
So whom are you quoting there, Jim? I can't reach my Bartlett's
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:43:53 (UTC)
Trix:
Before I forget need to share this with you. On Friday evening the City of Gottschee sponsored a choir concert of Gottscheer songs in the Auditorium. They performed to a packed house and the response from the audience was loud, supportive and appreciative. Another great step of cooperation in preserving our culture. Thought you would like to know. Wish I could have been there - maybe next time.
During our 1999 GHGA trip the local choir performed and we were invited. They sang 2 Gottscheer songs. Turned out to be very emotional for all of us. Again a packed house and thunderous applause.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:44:56 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: I'm still on. Frugality is majesty. Wow. Good quote.
- 63.252.224.202 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:44:59 (UTC)
Jim:
I think the quote is from a noted Gottscheer -- Dorothy Elizabeth Koenig Schauer Heimann.
Had I known that the picture would be a pinup, I would have combed my hair. It was a bit wind blown.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:46:01 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Thanks Jim...I agree..pinups for sure!!
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:46:42 (UTC)
Trix:
No, No, No Dr. Jim we are NOT going to the frugality bit. That is one trade you do not want to pick up. All the others are fine but not this one. That is a No, No.
You know what I miss in this program? Spell check.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:47:23 (UTC)
Jim:
I don't believe that Gottscheers tend to be on the profligate side of the expenditure ledger. I have heard rumors that there are some people north of the border who are less frugal than others.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:47:44 (UTC)
Jim:
Trix, it is too late on the frugality character. Frugal, yes. Cheap, no.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:49:03 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I expected a comment from someone, on the messed up hair. lolol
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:49:26 (UTC)
Ridy:
North of the border? There's nothing much north of our border other than water, snow and ice and that sort of stuff. Or are you talking about north of your border?
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:49:33 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Always conjure up a picture of my two grandmothers, when I hear the word frugality. Not such a bad trait, you know. Go ahead, Dr. Jim, you can be frugal if you want.
- 63.252.224.202 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:49:36 (UTC)
Jim:
Trix, tried Ugovizza on the Encarta Atlas and drew a blank. Will try one of the search engines.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:49:50 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim, you are a wise man after all. Frugal yes, Cheap No - I buy that. I really do.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:50:25 (UTC)
Jim:
My border, of course!!! For a second there, I thought you were saying that Canada was nothing but water, snow, ice...... .
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:50:51 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Dr. Jim: Waste of any kind was one of the worst sins my 2 grandmas could ever imagine. Guess it carried over to me and my siblings.
- 63.252.224.202 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:51:17 (UTC)
Ridy:
OK - I'll go along with the frugal. . . for what it's worth.
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:51:26 (UTC)
Trix:
Margaret, THANK YOU. I heard you and I agree.
Now who is going to invent an automatic spell check for the Plauderzimmer?
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:52:08 (UTC)
Ridy:
Just don't let the mayor of New York hear all this talk about frugal! (or my husband, for that matter!)
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:52:52 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Really must log off. Auf Widersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 63.252.224.202 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:53:00 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Is it possible that I misunderstood the village? It appears in the Phillips Family tree. I understand the grandfather was born there while his grandmother hails from Russbach by Tschermoschnitz. Great job on that one too.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:54:09 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Is it possible that I misunderstood the village? It appears in the Phillips Family tree. I understand the grandfather was born there while his grandmother hails from Russbach by Tschermoschnitz. Great job on that one too.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:55:18 (UTC)
Ridy:
OK Margaret -- that's it - you're up for a German lesson. I'm assming you are speaking to all of us in the Plauderzimmer when you say adieu. . .which makes it plural - and that means you have to say: "Bleibt gesund". . . .when you say 'bleib' it's singular. I know you won't mind the correction -- it's well meant.
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:55:21 (UTC)
Trix:
Sorry! Hit it twice.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:55:47 (UTC)
Ridy:
Trix - I sent you the result on that place from the Google search. Didn't stop to read it. . .
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:56:44 (UTC)
Trix:
Thanks, Ridy. Will leave now, check it and return. I APPRECIATE YOU.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:58:26 (UTC)
Jim:
Trix,
you had it correctly. Ugovizza is in the Val Canale section of northern Italy. While it is part of Italy, it has a significant Slovene population. Another name listed is Ukve. If you use google.com as your search engine and put in Ugovizza, you will get a good number of hits. If you put in Ugovizza and map, it slims the list a bit. Still haven't pulled it up on a map as of yet.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:58:37 (UTC)
Jim:
Ridy, you are hot on the trail.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 02:59:01 (UTC)
Jim:
Hello, did everyone leave when Margaret left???
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:02:29 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, I am still here, don't know about the rest.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:03:46 (UTC)
Ridy:
Just got word that the Apine Club in Kitchener will not be sold in the near future. They had received an offer from a plant next door, but the majority of members voted to turn down the offer. My father must be smiling up there somewhere.
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:04:32 (UTC)
Jim:
Marilu, I probably would not know what to do with hair. I have a beard mostly because I can get away without shaving a little longer. Hair would mean barber shops and drying. Now, I just buff it dry in two seconds.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:05:15 (UTC)
Jim:
They sold the German club in Norwalk, Connecticut to an Italian club. They still use it for meetings but I guess they got an offer they could not refuse.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:06:23 (UTC)
Ridy:
Good thing you don't live back in Gottschee, Jim. They'd come up with all sorts of horrendous home cures about how to make your hair grow! Of course, it was all in good fun. Yuck!
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:06:50 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, I must of been the only one that picked up on the messy hair bit. But truthfully, a couple of good looking guys!
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:08:00 (UTC)
Ridy:
Declining membership is a problem everywhere.
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:08:09 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, and not just in Gottscheer clubs. It is all over in all clubs.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:09:22 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy and Jim: THANK YOU both. Just translated one of the pages and it is in Northeastern Italy. I appreciate your help.
Ridy, I am stunned to even hear about the possibility of selling the Alpen Klub Haus. Why would they even have thought about it? The Klub is active with many young people, isn't it?
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:09:45 (UTC)
Ridy:
I didn't realize that, Marilu. Are we the last generation of joiners?
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:10:04 (UTC)
Jim:
On a genealogy note, I have been contacted by someone from the Norwood, Massachusetts Gottscheers. Mostly from Ebental parish with a goodly number of Eppiches from Tiefental and Ebental villages. Then I met another Gottscheer from British Columbia who is related by marriage to the same group. Small Gottscheer world isn't it.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:10:18 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Your hair looks GREAT so does your beard. Just wonderful to be able to put a face to a name. Chicago Franz is a good looking Gottscheer too. I think we were born in the same vintage year 1936 - weren't we Ridy?
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:11:23 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, I don't know for sure what the problem is with clubs. People are so busy running in 20 different directions I think.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:11:42 (UTC)
Ridy:
They had received a good offer and it wasn't at all certain that they would turn it down. The membership is getting old, like we are, (I can remember when, as a member, I was still too young to vote!) and the young people tend to move away in go in different directions. Hansi Kroisenbrunner was returned as President, along with most of the executive.
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:13:33 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I think I have found another person who is related to the Peschels from Sugar Creek Iowa, so I may be able to find out more out about them soon.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:13:41 (UTC)
Trix:
I learned from John Phillips this morning that quite a number of Gottscheers settled in Montana, including his grandparents. They worked in the mines there. As someone said, It is a small world isn't it? I still feel bad that the Gottscheers in Vancouver did not organize. Most of my mother's family were there as were and are many off springs.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:13:44 (UTC)
Jim:
The neighborhood clubs tend to go the way of the neighborhoods. Most Gottscheers, specifically, and immigrants utilize the clubs as a focal point after they arrive. The next generation uses them as well but use declines as the people move out of the original neighborhoods. That is why I think the internet is the way to go to keep people interested. Then selected areas should be kept going as meeting points for larger get togethers like the treffen. I would still like to get into the city and see what the Clubhaus meetings are like.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:14:03 (UTC)
Ridy:
Trix - yes, I seem to recall that Franz said that he was also a 1936er. . .
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:15:22 (UTC)
Trix:
Something else I wanted to share. We recently watched the movie Evita. If you haven't seen it please consider it. The music is absolutely terrific as is Madonna and Antonio Bandares (I need a spellcheck).
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:15:45 (UTC)
Jim:
I think it is a combination of being busy and moving geographically away from the core areas. I know that the Ridgewood area is very congested and it is hard to find a parking spot on the best of days. So --- there aren't enough people who live in the area anymore and it is hard to get there for meetings.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:16:23 (UTC)
Jim:
Trix, you are correct on the year. Must have been a fine year in Gottschee.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:17:09 (UTC)
Jim:
Trix, didn't they try to have a meeting in the area at one time? Did it come off? For some reason, I think it might have been cancelled. And yes, there are quite a few Gottscheer descendants in British Columbia.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:19:02 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim. I tend to agree the internet will be our link to the Gottscheers, particularly the younger generations. It seems that many of them are interested more and more to learn about their ancestors. That is very encouraging to me and I am always delighed to receive an inquiry or find a posting. You just never know where it will lead but almost always it brings good results. No doubt you can tell that I truly enjoy this part of my work. Then working with nice people, of course, makes it extra special. So I say once again DANKE, DANKE und noch einmal DANKE.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:19:21 (UTC)
Ridy:
They do seem to have a good group in Vancouver -- I've sent a lot of copies of the book up there!
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:21:04 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: The only official meeting that I know of in Vancouver was the 2000 GHGA Annual Meeting. It was a very good event even though many more locals could have attended. It takes a lot of time and energy to recruit new members. Many times it is a hard sell but once they are hooked on it they are very loyal and supportive. Time, is what one needs and that is not always available. But, we keep trying.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:22:09 (UTC)
Ridy:
So what did you do to Franz, Jim? He seems to be hiding from us!
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:26:14 (UTC)
Jim:
I know that I have come in contact with several interested individuals in the BC area in the last two or so years. I am sure there are more as well. Hopefully there are seeds that will sprout. How is the videotaping going? Not only should oral histories be taken down but I think the dances and the songs should be taped. Also, there are more things that we can do with the 1930s VHS tape. We need to sit down at a GHGA meeting and discuss getting photos printed from the tape. The more people we can identify, the better it will be. Again, this is one of those time constrained activities. How many times a year does the board meet? Perhaps they could have GHGA meetings more often on the internet to hear new ideas and have some give and take.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:29:03 (UTC)
Ridy:
Now there's a good thought! I think meetings on the Internet would be a terrific idea!
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:30:26 (UTC)
Jim:
Franz tends to come into the chat room a little later. I did not keep him out carousing in the jazz joints of Chi-town. A little bistro with good food and wine. Nice conversation and then some sightseeing.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:30:47 (UTC)
Ridy:
Oh my! It must be nice to be young and young at heart! Jazz joints! I think I can almost remember that far back!
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:32:24 (UTC)
Jim:
A chat room situation would be the best choice. Perhaps on a monthly or quarterly basis. It could be announced in one or more of the GHGA publications. One large meeting a year is too infrequent to get projects going. The questionnaire initiative is still in the embryonic stage (possible the zygotic stage). Perhaps Holly and I should just take a stab at it and see how it goes with the local clubs.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:33:21 (UTC)
Ridy:
Now I'm going to have to look up zygotic. . .
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:35:43 (UTC)
Jim:
Nah ---- it is just the step earlier than the embryo.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:37:12 (UTC)
Ridy:
no cloning around here, hear!
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:38:18 (UTC)
Jim:
Speaking of people on the internet. I am gradually trying to put the names of my online contacts into a spreadsheet format. It will help me keep track of the who, what, where, and when of the contacts. There are times when someone emails me back after a delay and I have no idea what they are replying to. Anyhow, I bring this up just to highlight what I am talking about concerning the internet. The file already has 130 addresses in it. Most I have emailed, and most have responded. Some are lost in the Gluhwein and are still out there wandering around.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:41:31 (UTC)
Jim:
Send them in!!
Getting back to the file--- I am probably not half done with the addresses that I have actually saved. There is great potential in the internet to bring these people together for discussions and going forward on projects.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:43:40 (UTC)
Jim:
Marilu, wo bist du?
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:44:27 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I am here listening to everything lol
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:45:23 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Your spreadsheet idea is a good one. I have lots of addresses in my online address book, but only those I email a lot.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:46:27 (UTC)
Jim:
A chatroom voyeur!!!! AHA --- knew you were a little off center. Perhaps too much sampling of the wares at the shoppe.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:46:39 (UTC)
Ridy:
And while we're at it, lets tell everybody on the Internet, Jim, that you will be attending the next Treffen in Kitchener-Waterloo during the 2002 Labor Day weekend and you will be passing out forms and taking down histories.
What else?
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:47:16 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lolol Today it would be not enough sampling!
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:48:18 (UTC)
Ridy:
I just found out recently I can't do a spreadsheet with whatever program I have -- and I have been promised whatever it is I need in the near future. Why does everything have to be so complicated?
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:48:56 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Sometimes I feel I am a little selfish with my time, but I have so much more work to do on my own families, I don't feel I have any to spare to help others like you do Jim, and Trix.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:50:23 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, what program do you have?
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:51:05 (UTC)
Jim:
Ridy, although I am truly engrossed in working on Gottscheer matters, I believe others will have to pick up some of the work. My wife is tolerant but one day she will hit me over the head if I spend too much time on these things.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:51:59 (UTC)
Trix:
I am back. Dr. Jim your idea is excellent. May I have your permission to pass it on to the GHGA board?
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:54:18 (UTC)
Ridy:
Jim - I've been thinking of nominating Linda for sainthood. . . can't figure out why she hasn't hit you over your head yet!
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:54:20 (UTC)
Ridy:
Marilu - you ask questions which are too difficult to answer. Would it be Word?
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:55:27 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy, you never commented on the Glühwein. How come? At our house it was served at Christmas time. My mother loved dunking frozen cookies into it. Haven't had any for 43 years.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:55:29 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ok what is Gluhwein. And do you use to make the little dots over the u?
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:56:34 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix we do need a spell checker. Should say what do you use to make the little dots
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:57:11 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy: This is your moment to shine. Please give her the symbols for the Umlauts. I learned that very important lesson from you and your cousin Arnold. Have been very grateful.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:57:48 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
And why frozen cookies? Jim you will tell me to be quite in a minute!
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:58:05 (UTC)
Ridy:
Glühwein is something I used to enjoy with my aunt! It had to be served in a stemmed glass with a white serviette! And mine had lots of sugar in it, and I wasn't allowed to lick the cinnamon stick! When I make it for myself now -- for medicinal purposes only, of course, I use a mug and heat it in the microwave! Sacrilege!
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:58:42 (UTC)
Trix:
Nothing like frozen cookies with Glühwein - which is wine, water, sugar and cinammon stick brought to a quick boil. It is served hot. Terrific combination.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:59:33 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Is it a type of glog?
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 03:59:40 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
What is a serviette?
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:00:45 (UTC)
Ridy:
Trixie -- Arnold will not thank you to have him known as my cousin . . . we are not related. We've never even met - unless it was back in Gottschee, when we were both too young to remember.
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:00:46 (UTC)
Trix:
Was ist Glog? Ich habe keine Ahnung or - what is glog? I don't have any idea.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:01:12 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Glog is a spiced wine type of holiday drink, Enlish I think
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:01:54 (UTC)
Trix:
You are not cousins? No kidding. Oh, boy, I am in trouble. I refer to Arnold as your cousin all the time. Sorry!
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:02:09 (UTC)
Jim:
Glühwein sounds very similar to mulled spice wine. We simmer it with cinnamon sticks and sometimes bits of other spices and citrus rinds. Don't know about the frozen cookies although I do like to eat uncooked cookie dough.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:02:20 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
English spell checker where are you lol
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:02:23 (UTC)
Ridy:
Marilu - you are definitely not a Canadian! A serviette is a napkin!
What is glog?
Glühwein is wine heated up with sugar, and with lemon or orange slices added, if you like, and it's stirred with a cinnamon stick. For children, you add a drop of wine to the water and tell them it's the real McCoy.
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:03:20 (UTC)
Trix:
If it is Glog and English it can't be Glühwein. Maybe it is a cousin but can't be the original. Ridy, help me out - Glühwein could mean glow wine, couldn't it? I am thinking what is really flowing are the cheeks.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:03:25 (UTC)
Jim:
I think glog is a Vulcan drink that they used before the mating ritual. Or was it Klingon??? Probably Klingon!
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:03:31 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well I thought maybe a napkin, but was not sure.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:04:03 (UTC)
Ridy:
Nope, Trixie -- Arnold's father and my father were friends, but definitely not related.
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:04:51 (UTC)
Ridy:
Definitely Klingon!
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:05:14 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
So Ridy how do you make the little dots over the u?
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:05:24 (UTC)
Jim:
I thought it was a small server :). Had no idea that it was a napkin but I have now learned something new. We always used our sleeves or pant legs in Brooklyn. Not out of bad manners, of course. We were just ecologically sound.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:05:55 (UTC)
Ridy:
Definitely glühen would be glowing -- as in coals or cheeks, take your pick.
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:06:51 (UTC)
Jim:
Trix has the whole umlaut alphabet stored somewhere. I use it now and then.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:07:05 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim being ecologically sounds if great as long as it isn't cheap. Could not resist.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:07:39 (UTC)
Ridy:
hit the Alt key and hold it down while you type 1, 2, 9 on the right side of the keyboard. . .
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:08:04 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
You can use alt key with numbers for things, like the wavy line in Spanish words, but I don't know if it works in this chat room. I can not remember the correct numbers right now for it.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:08:36 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy: The glühen that I saw was definitely cheek related rather than coal.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:08:53 (UTC)
Jim:
No, not even frugal. Linda has just broken me of the habit and I actually use cloth or paper products.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:08:55 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
See, that is not working for me in this chat room.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:09:20 (UTC)
Trix:
Marilu: Try it. Hit the Alt key and type 129 on the right numbers. Release Alt and you are one smart woman who learned an important lesson just like that. Give it a try. We are waiting.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:10:07 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I did try and it did not work.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:10:32 (UTC)
Trix:
WHY is it not working. Try this one then. Hit Alt key and type 148. See what you come up with.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:11:06 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
It works in my word processor, but not here.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:11:28 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Maybe it is because I am on my laptop, and do not have the numbers on the side, only across the top.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:12:14 (UTC)
Trix:
That is very interesting. Alt plus 148 gives you ö - another Umlaut in the German language.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:12:14 (UTC)
Jim:
Marilu, that is it exactly. It does work.
Hold down the Alt key and hit
132 for ä
142 for Ä
148 for ö
153 for Ö
129 for ü
154 for Ü
225 for ß
248 for °
171 for ½
172 for ¼
That's all I have.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:12:22 (UTC)
Trix:
That is it. The top numbers do not work. Whew, what relief. I can sleep now.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:13:03 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I think that is it. It did not work in my word processor on this computer either. No right side number pad.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:13:15 (UTC)
Ridy:
The Laptop is the problem -- Caroline has said that in the past. . .
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:13:17 (UTC)
Jim:
I guess you were working on it while I was typing it out. I think you need the side numbers to do it but I am sure there is a way to do it on a laptop. I will ask my daughter.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:13:44 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: No doubt about it, with youth comes speed. Just like that you had them all.
I am still waiting for your permission to forward your excellent suggestion.
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:14:26 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Thanks for all the letters tho. I will write them down. I know I have a list of them somewhere also, but lord knows where.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:14:43 (UTC)
Trix:
Well nice people time to call it a night. Thanks for the wonderful company and sharing. I wish you all a good week and send regards to Chicago Franz, Mr. Rabuse and Cook Islands Richard. Take care and think happy thoughts.
Is there anyway to insert graphics into these mssages?
- 209.240.237.162 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:16:53 (UTC)
Ridy:
All that thinking of Umlauts has plumb tuckered me out. Think I had better fix my nightcap and get myself off to dreamland. Gute Nacht, Allemiteinander. . . .
- 64.229.235.70 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:17:24 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Gute Nacht, and thanks for the lessons tonite.
- 198.81.17.56 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:18:54 (UTC)
Jim:
Which suggestion!! I was just running off at the fingertips. You can use whatever suggestion you like and I hope it will come to some good.
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:19:10 (UTC)
Jim:
Gute nacht!!
- 64.12.103.43 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 04:19:23 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
To Richie Seider...If you still reading the Gottscheer news, Richie..Just want to say hello to you and nettie..from adeline and Paul
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, December 03, 2001 at 23:41:42 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
To Paul Brasino
I've passed your message along to Richie - just in case he isn't checking the Plauderzimmer. Nettie is my first cousin. If you don't have Richie's e-mail address, drop me a note at ridy@sympatico.ca and I'll send it on to you.
- 64.229.232.180 - Tuesday, December 04, 2001 at 02:20:22 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Dear Ridy: Thank You.......Richie e-mailed us, I appreciate your thoughtfulness....Best Wishes, Paul
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, December 06, 2001 at 22:18:26 (UTC)
Franz:
I know I'm early, anyone home yet?
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 01:35:07 (UTC)
Jim H:
Dear Franz, Thank you again for your hospitality. Did you get my emails?
- 152.163.194.192 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 01:56:01 (UTC)
Margaaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all had a wonderful week. Very mild here in KC and our CHiefs lost again.
- 63.252.221.209 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:06:21 (UTC)
Jim H:
Hello, Margaret. Dick Vermeil should have stayed retired after winning the Super Bowl. The Chiefs are done for the season unfortunately. They and the Cowboys are now playing for pride and improvement.
- 152.163.194.192 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:08:00 (UTC)
Margaaret Jonke:
Jim: Did Trix tell you my cousins Pete and John Jonke went to Gottschee in Sept and took many photos of cemeteries? They got a super picture of my great grandpa's grave marker--Mathias Jonke--Kumerdorf. Really interesting.
- 63.252.221.209 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:11:07 (UTC)
Jim H:
I remember something about a trip to Gottschee but I am not sure about the pictures.
- 152.163.194.192 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:14:47 (UTC)
Jim H:
It looks like we are going to hit and miss tonight but I will keep flipping back and forth.
- 152.163.194.192 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:15:17 (UTC)
Margaaret Jonke:
Jim: John's health is not too good. We weren't sure if Pete could take care of him, but they made it. All the cemeteries they visited were weed-choked and things broken. It's a miracle they found g-grandpa's grave.
- 63.252.221.209 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:16:24 (UTC)
Franz:
Guten Abend Margaret und Jim, how are we tonight? Jim, while I was waiting for company, I finally dropped a e-note.I am sorry for being so late. Barbara and I had a wonderful time with you.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:17:05 (UTC)
Franz:
Guten Abend Margaret und Jim, how are we tonight? Jim, while I was waiting for company, I finally dropped a e-note.I am sorry for being so late. Barbara and I had a wonderful time with you.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:17:07 (UTC)
Trix:
Good Evening to all of you. Hope you are all doing well. OK time for the rest to join us for another enjoyable evening of conversation and sharing.
Hi Dr. Jim, Margaret and Chicago Franz. What a GREAT photo of you two gentlemen. Feels wonderful to be able to put a face to a name. Cold at Waukenabo but still a wonderful winter after that one major blizzard of 12 inches of snow.
- 209.240.245.107 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:17:58 (UTC)
Margaaret Jonke:
Franz: So glad you logged on. Hope all is well with you and yours. How is Chicago?
- 63.252.221.209 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:18:20 (UTC)
Jim H:
Trix said they are trying to fix up the cemetaries. I wonder if that cemetary is one that has been spruced up and then fallen into disrepair or one that has not been worked on as of yet. Can you give us some more information as to the location?
Hi, Franz. The others have been wondering where you have been but you have been busy.
- 152.163.194.192 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:19:38 (UTC)
Margaaret Jonke:
Jim: So far as I know, it's near Kumerdorf. I must get more exact info from Pete. He has hurt his shoulder, jumping over a cemetery wall. It gives him a lot of pain.
- 63.252.221.209 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:21:09 (UTC)
Jim H:
I guess there was no easy access to the gravestones. Trix, are you familiar with that particular cemetary?
- 152.163.194.192 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:24:17 (UTC)
Franz:
Margaret, Chicago is great however the Bears luck ran out today, Greenbay pulled them back down to earth today. The weather is just great, sofar no trace of snow. Trix, thank you for keeping the white stuff up north.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:25:08 (UTC)
Franz:
Margaret, Chicago is great however the Bears luck ran out today, Greenbay pulled them back down to earth today. The weather is just great, sofar no trace of snow. Trix, thank you for keeping the white stuff up north.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:25:09 (UTC)
Jim H:
Question about a name. There is a marriage in the All Saint's Church of Brooklyn with the groom listed as Oswald Mengtil from Oberkatzendorf. I have found the same gentleman in the Ellis Island records as Oswald Mentil. He had a son who is found in the SSDI as Mentil. However, I don't know of any other Mentil or Mengtils in Gottschee and I have a suspicion that the name was originally Mantel. Any ideas??
- 152.163.194.192 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:27:16 (UTC)
Jim H:
Franz, the Bears should still be in very good shape to make the playoffs provided they keep up the good defense and running.
- 152.163.194.192 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:28:11 (UTC)
Margaaret Jonke:
The laundry is singing its siren song in the basement. Must log off. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 63.252.221.209 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:29:57 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, you are right about the Bears, I only hope todays loss wont demoralzing them. Regarding the name Mentil, sounds very unfamiliar to me maybe Trix can shed some light on it.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:33:02 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: I am with you. I bet anything it will be Mantel. Lets remember that handwriting many times was lousy and then the people transcribing the information were guessing. I would go with Mantel.
Regarding the cemetery that Margaret talks about, I don't know. Am thinking it is doubtful that Kummerdorf had one but maybe they did. She is verifying it with Pete and I will be anxious to learn all about it too.
It has been a very busy week here but had the pleasure of our granddaughter MeganMary, age 8, spent the afternoon and we finished the decorating.
How is the body today, Dr. Jim? Had a good time last night ha? Hey, you did good. How about the tree? I enjoyed your note. Danke.
- 209.240.245.107 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:35:00 (UTC)
Trix:
Franz, you and I are the same age which means that you and I both participated in both the Umsiedlung and the Flucht in 1945. I am emotionally preparing myself for the holidays and Dec. 28 when it will be 60 years to the day when we left Gottschee. Had not thought about it at all until I heard this marvelous program on Pearl Harbor - 60 years for them too. I think it is going to be a tough time for me. Many memories, much sadness, such a bond to der alten Heimat but also so very happy with my life here. But, it was the place of my birth, something no one can ever take away. Any thoughts on your part?
- 209.240.245.107 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:37:50 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good evening, friends!
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:40:06 (UTC)
Franz:
Trix, I don't have memories of the exact date of our parting from Gottschee. I had not given it much thought untill I discovered you friends im Plauderzimmer.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:42:06 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, Nuea is ascht ubr schon zeit as due aeuf bischt gastean.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:43:36 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz - ich hon in dr küchl geurbeitet
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:44:33 (UTC)
Jim H:
Good evening, Ridy.
My body is aching but only slightly more than usual. The lower back is the only part that continues to irk me on a consistent basis. Could not let the young pups outdance me so I stayed on the floor most of the night. The Bushwick comes out in me when they start playing Motown songs.
- 152.163.194.192 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:45:06 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, jo, belai Kuechl?
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:45:33 (UTC)
Ridy :
The dancin' doc . . .I like that!
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:46:00 (UTC)
Jim H:
Yes, Ridy. Please tell us so that we may choose the suitable potable elixir.
- 152.163.194.192 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:47:07 (UTC)
Ridy :
Fronz: Buas frugescht dü scho tütat? Bemonsch Küchel brts schichtn schein osch bie dei meine?
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:47:38 (UTC)
Ridy :
Jim ~It's turned chilly here, so the best best would be a Glühwein! It would go nicely with the cookies I just finished decorating.
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:49:09 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, be careful, Ridy might suggest to sleep on Brennessel. If you don't know about Brennessel she might be able to explain.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:51:06 (UTC)
Ridy :
Now that's a new one on me Franz. All I know about Brennessel to to avoid them. Was it something I said?
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:51:58 (UTC)
Ridy :
Isn't the stinging nettle also used in a tea? Not that I've ever indulged in that. . . .
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:53:05 (UTC)
Trix:
True Ridy, the dancing Doc, it does sound good but I can't help but wonder what made him the "dancing Doc". He has never talked about before. How about it Dr. Jim. What is the real story here? We need to know. Bug, bug but I could not resist.
- 209.240.245.107 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:53:17 (UTC)
Franz:
Ah, Gluehwein, who is serving?
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:53:42 (UTC)
Ridy :
Franz ~ I'll serve if you'll buy
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:54:50 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, I don't see a problem.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:56:17 (UTC)
Ridy :
Franz ~ do you remember anything at all about Christmas in Gottschee?
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:57:41 (UTC)
Jim:
I don't dance in any organized sense of the word. Could not do any dance that entailed detailed steps in any order. However, have heard that my flailing around does resemble some sort of dancing. I enjoy it once I get going.
- 205.188.200.156 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:58:04 (UTC)
Jim:
Back to the spiced wine tonight. I have to check my stock to see if I have any spiced wine for the holidays. I usually make a large pot of it with seasonings and fruit mixed in until steaming hot. Great on a snowy day.
- 205.188.200.156 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 02:59:45 (UTC)
Ridy :
I think your style of dancing is known as uninhibited exhibitionism, Jim. . . at least that's what my son calls his style and it sounds the same as yours!
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:00:17 (UTC)
Trix:
Well, everybody back to drink we are. Not to food yet except cookies. So, what else is new with all of you? How is life treating you? What have you been doing? Are you ready for the holidays?
- 209.240.245.107 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:01:25 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, some. I do remember cutting the Tannenbaum, wrapping Wuerffelzucker in some bright paper, hanging the apples close to the stem and on Christmas Eve the Christkindl opened the door and threw nuts and other goodies on the floor. The adaults leaving at midnight for the mette.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:02:40 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone. Just got home from supper at my son's house. He is a good cook! But he lets me make the gravy! lol
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:04:22 (UTC)
Ridy :
OK, Trix and Franz. . . .I'm trying to remember if the ornaments we made for the Christmas tree in Gottschee were called Taschenzettel or Tafzettel. . . do you know what I'm thinking of? They were made out of coloured tissue paper, with a cube of sugar in the centre, and the paper was twisted around the piece of sugar, and the paper was then beatifully cut into thin strips to form a fringe. A ribbon was tied around it and then they were hung on the tree. Do you remember the? And what were they called?
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:04:27 (UTC)
Jim:
I prefer to phrase it as controlled musical interpretation. Whatever it is, I can do it once or twice a year.
- 205.188.200.156 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:04:45 (UTC)
Jim:
The Christmas decorations are making me hungry. Sugar, cookies, glühwein, yum, yum.
Hello, Marilu.
- 205.188.200.156 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:06:04 (UTC)
Ridy :
Cute, Jim. I'll have to pass that along to the other party.
Franz - you remember the same decorations! Interesting about the Christkindl throwing nuts and goodies in through the door -- hadn't heard that before.
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:06:39 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy I think I remember what you are describing but beyond that know noting. Gosh I feel so stupid that I can't remember anything from so long ago.
- 209.240.245.107 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:06:43 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, I don't remember what they were called. Welcome Marilu.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:06:48 (UTC)
Ridy :
Hi Marilu! Have you got your tree up yet?
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:08:15 (UTC)
Trix:
Did the Christkindl throw the nuts or was it der Weihnachtsmann on Dec. 6 isn't it? I remember the nuts too but not when it was. I think I am having an "intellectual interruption" formerly a "senior moment."
- 209.240.245.107 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:08:31 (UTC)
Ridy :
Trix - the Weihnachtsmann is the German version. We had St. Nikolaus on December 6 and the Christkind at Christmas.
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:09:38 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I am very slow this year. Hopefully the tree will go up tomorrow. I have a imitation feather tree. We made it ourselves, and it looks like a Charlie Brown tree. I love it cause you can see nothing but decorations. And I have tons!
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:10:01 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Nor have I done any baking yet.
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:11:04 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Usually we bake cookies all Thankgiving weekend. But my girls have both been under the weather this year. Kay has had surgury, and Gail has cysts in her hip joints that will need something done with them.
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:12:06 (UTC)
Ridy :
An imitation feather tree -- now that sounds rather au courant - or a rather free artistic interpretation? And I'm forever wishing I could afford a lovely Colorado spruce!
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:12:11 (UTC)
Franz:
Trix, Dec. 6, it was der Heilige Nickolaus with the Krampus. The behaving ones got nuts, apples the bad ones got the Rute on the behind from the Krampus and some really bad girls he took with him.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:12:29 (UTC)
Trix:
Well gang time for me to leave you. Have a great week and stay warm.
- 209.240.245.107 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:12:54 (UTC)
Ridy :
Ah, yes Franz - I remember it well!
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:13:36 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
The original feather trees were from Germany, and the ones they make now are so expensive I cannot afford them, so we made out own.
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:13:39 (UTC)
Ridy :
G'nite Trix!
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:14:03 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
goodnight Trix.
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:14:43 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, which part do you remember? The later one?
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:15:04 (UTC)
Franz:
Good Night Trix.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:15:55 (UTC)
Ridy :
Yeah, you wish! Don't forget, Franz, we're born in the same year, and the Krampus wasn't interested in the likes of me.
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:16:29 (UTC)
Jim:
We have the fixings for quite a few spritz cookies. I love eating the uncooked dough. All sugar and butter with some flour as an excuse to hold it all together while it bakes. We have a cookie press and make all different holiday shapes. I love my cooked cookies with a cold glass of milk.
- 205.188.200.156 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:16:29 (UTC)
Ridy :
I prefer my baked cookies with a cup of hot chocolate with a shot of Kaluha (sp?) added to it. Think I'll go and make some now.
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:17:55 (UTC)
Jim:
Obviously, Franz was not speaking of you, Ridy. How could he have been? You are still here and the Krampus is nowhere to be found. He missed you this December again.
- 205.188.200.156 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:17:57 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We make lots of spritz cookies also, we like almond flavoring in ours. And I like hot chocolate with peppermint scnapps in it!
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:19:12 (UTC)
Jim:
I am getting hungrier and hungrier. I will have to sign off just to get something to nosh on. A glass of milk, a cookie or two, and an ice pack for the back.
- 205.188.200.156 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:19:15 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, you are giving it away, so you are the Santa whom the kids leave their cookies and milk for.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:19:15 (UTC)
Ridy :
Jim - does your cookie press have a shape for a dog? Mine does, and I have to make a whole batch of just dogs. I use a butter cookie recipe which came from the kitchen of President Eisenhower! That shows you how long I've been baking them!
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:19:21 (UTC)
Jim:
I will skip the schnapps or kahlua for the time being. Bartender, one milk and hold the liquor!!!!
- 205.188.200.156 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:20:07 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I understand my Gottschee ancestors liked scnapps, maybe that is where I inherited it from. It is wonderful pain medicine when the joints are aching!
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:20:09 (UTC)
Ridy :
Jim - I very much doubt that there exists a Krampus anywhere now which could drag me away! Not without risking major back injury!
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:20:47 (UTC)
Jim:
Yep, it has a dog in the shape of a Scotty or Westie. A camel, a butterfly, as well as other shapes.
- 205.188.200.156 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:20:54 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Tonite I am sipping on some white wine while we chat. lol
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:21:38 (UTC)
Ridy :
Marilu - all Gottscheer ancestors and their decendents like(d) Schnapps!
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:22:00 (UTC)
Franz:
Marilu you are right, the Gottscheers loved their Slivovitz.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:22:20 (UTC)
Jim:
Franz, indeed. The children used to leave the milk and cookies for me ----- oops, I mean Santa. Now I just get them myself. I will have to wait for grandchildren before I get them left again.
- 205.188.200.156 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:22:23 (UTC)
Ridy :
That's the set, Jim -- I just had to replace mine, and it cost a x#%* fortune! The old one actually wore out.
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:23:09 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, I sell the Slivovitz at my store also!
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:23:19 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, todays Krampus comes with a forklift. No excuses.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:23:25 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We had to get a new cookie press last year, and I ordered it off the Home Shopping Network, and it is wonderful.
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:24:30 (UTC)
Ridy :
Guess I asked for that, Franz. Yes, a forklift would do the trick, perish the thought!
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:24:31 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, you are a good sport, but what is language is #$%?
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:27:57 (UTC)
Ridy :
Probably Slovenian. I can't remember.
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:30:51 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lolololololol
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:31:30 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, be careful we might have an unexpected guest.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:31:45 (UTC)
Ridy :
Don't worry, Franz - the Krampus is already gone.
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:32:39 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, much too young for grandchildren, so you will have to wait for your cokkies being served.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:33:34 (UTC)
Jim:
Ladies and gents, time for me to pack it in. Have a good week.
- 205.188.200.156 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:34:32 (UTC)
Ridy :
Good night, Jim. Hope the ice pack works!
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:35:46 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, have a good night, don't you want to wait till Ridy serves her cookis and gluehwein?
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:36:41 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Goodnight Jim, And I suppose it is time to say goodnight also.
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:37:08 (UTC)
Ridy :
Guess I'll have to eat it all myself. You know what they say: selber essen macht fett!
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:37:26 (UTC)
Franz:
Good Night Friends and have a pleasent week.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:38:18 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Translation Ridy?
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:38:21 (UTC)
Ridy :
Well, Franz, that just leaves you and me in the room, and since I don't trust you anymore than I'd trust the Krampus, I had better say Gute Nacht, Allemiteinder, as well. Take care and stay warm.
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:38:46 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Goodnight, Franz it was nice to see you again. Goodnight Ridy.
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:38:53 (UTC)
Ridy :
Marilu - it means that to eat alone makes you fat. All too true!
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:39:34 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
thanks and yes it does.
- 198.81.16.172 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:40:04 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, if I would be you, I certainly wanted to be shure the door is locked.
- 67.25.195.52 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:40:15 (UTC)
Ridy :
Gute Nacht, Franz - don't forget to turn off the lights when you leave.
- 64.229.232.230 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 03:43:25 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Marilou: You mentioned slivovitz after I logged off. What memories that evokes. My father's family drank it, gargled it for sore throats, rubbed it on sprains and strains and wouldn't leave home with out it. Still have a half bottle of my father's slivovitz - 7 years after his death. Will never part with it.
- 64.197.200.25 - Monday, December 10, 2001 at 20:34:12 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Margaret, there is a lady here in town who uses slivovitz about the same way. She is not from Gottschee, but one of the bordering countries. It used to be 100 proof, but now all we can get is 80 proof.
- 198.81.17.59 - Wednesday, December 12, 2001 at 00:11:42 (UTC)
Franz:
Margaret you are right, Slivovitz was an allaround miracle drug.
- 64.158.229.147 - Thursday, December 13, 2001 at 11:17:19 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten abend. The CHiefs won today!!! Jim, are you on?
- 209.255.144.154 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:17:09 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Great news, Margaret. They finally bagged one. Hopefully they will be able to build on this one.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:19:03 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Marilou, Even 80 proof would curl your hair or kill strep. Our younger son wants the old bottle of slivovitz to remember his opa. I will gladly give it to him.
- 209.255.144.154 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:20:12 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
It has been a mixed bag for the chat room crowd. Franz's Bears won. Trix's Vikings lost as my Cowboys (I also root for the Vikes so I got the double whammy. I believe Holly's Browns lost. I don't know if the Toronto Argonauts are still playing.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:21:09 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: It's sort of like the dog in the manger story. The Chiefs don't benefit by the win, but the Broncos suffer because of it. Too bad. Maybe a little slivovitz would help our boys.
- 209.255.144.154 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:21:19 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, I have not had the pleasure of slivovitz. What does it taste like? Does it taste like grappa or one of the other powerful tasting liqueurs?
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:22:16 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, a win is a win. Maybe they can get things together in the last three games so the postseason won't be so dreary.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:23:01 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Jim: I would liken the taste and "kick" to drinking anti-freeze or moonshine--corn liquor made in the illegal stills back in the woods in the Missouri
- 209.255.144.154 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:25:05 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
My lst part didn't print out. In the Ozarks, the moonshiners make a powerful brew from corn! Will strip paint or cure a world of things.
- 209.255.144.154 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:27:21 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
THink I must say good night. Hubby is feeling flu like symptoms and needs attention. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 209.255.144.154 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:31:55 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I will have to try it once just to see what it tastes like.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:32:20 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, best of luck and have a good week.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:32:52 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I will be off and on in the chat room. Anyone signing on can send an email or IM me. Going through some Ellis Island information.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:34:01 (UTC)
Franz:
Hello, Margaret and Jim, hope you are still here.
- 67.25.198.151 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:39:44 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Anyone around?
- 198.81.17.49 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:41:18 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Franz
- 198.81.17.49 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:42:12 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Franz and Marilu. Are you still around?
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:43:48 (UTC)
Franz:
Hi Marilu, I guess it's you and me. How is Co. these days? I miss it and wish we could be there.
- 67.25.198.151 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:44:13 (UTC)
Franz:
Hello Jim, how are you?
- 67.25.198.151 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:45:02 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Started out looking for something on an Anton Samide but then go sidetracked trying to figure out a name I didn't recognize which turned out to be a badly transcribed version of Andreas Kikel. Then it turned out that he was back and forth to the United States. He was always going back to California. Nice place except it was California, Pennsylvania.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:45:39 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim. Franz, Colorado is beautiful. We had a skiff of snow last night, but it was gone as soon as the sun was up. Nice and warm this afternoon. We do need moisture tho.
- 198.81.17.49 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:45:51 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I am doing well. I am putting a fork in it and declaring the outside decorations as done. A light set that was working when we decorated a tree decided to go out so we had to take it down and put up another set. Looks good.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:47:06 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
My husband got the out side lights done about a week ago, but I am not done inside yet. Just did the tree yesterday. But I think only a portion of my decorations are going to get put up this year.
- 198.81.17.49 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:49:56 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, I know I may be wishing for the wrong thing but I look forward to the first snow. Hopefully we will have a dusting for Christmas. The Christmas lights always look great with a slight covering of the white stuff.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:50:33 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim. It doesn't look good it looks ABSOLUTELY LOVELY. Nice job and congratulations to you and Linda.
Greetings to you all.
- 209.240.237.145 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:50:45 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
That is what Linda said about our decorations but she always puts out 90% or more by the time she gets done.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:51:28 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I always want snow for Christmas also. I guess that is from growing up in Minnesota. We almost always had a white Christmas there. Hi Trix
- 198.81.17.49 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:52:03 (UTC)
Trix:
So, Dr. Jim where did this Mr. Samida hail from?
- 209.240.237.145 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:52:22 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, looks even better now. Put a little Xmas tree in the reindeer sleigh to add a little green. We have been puttering around with it since the weekend after Thanksgiving. We try to keep it decorative but not gaudy.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:52:56 (UTC)
Franz:
I had a chance to see the bears today at Soldier Field. My youngest son, Konrad and Daughter Christine went, must have been an exciting game. We went to a German Christmas Service instead and ran into Karl Deutschmann, yes Jim it is the Deutschmann you found and he would apreciate his family tree. He was born in 1935 in Oberdeutschau. If you could forward the file to me, that would be great. Barbara goes to the Kaffeeclatsch on wednesday, his wife will be there also.
- 67.25.198.151 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:53:26 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I always tell everyone it wouldnt take me near as long to decorate, if I wasn't doing my spring and fall housecleaning at the same time!!
- 198.81.17.49 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:53:59 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Not sure about Samide. He gave his grandfather's name as Anton and greatgrands as Johann. Anton was born in 1889 and came over around 1911. I had nothing in my file for an Anton at that time but did find an Anton with the same approximate birthyear who passed through Ellis Island in 1911. He came from Malgern. Things seem to fit well except that the Ellis Island site lists his father as Josef and not Johann. Would need to be clarified.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:55:03 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, would be my pleasure to send you the file. One hot file coming over the wires. I am sure he will be surprised.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:58:43 (UTC)
Franz:
Hello Trix, some time in the past you asked me about the Gottscheer club of Chicago, found out today there is a stealth club. I will have to find a way to make it known and make it growwww.
- 67.25.198.151 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 02:59:49 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, Karl is a fairly close cousin of Barry Deutschmann and is related to Elfriede Stiene's husband. Probably some other cousins out there as well.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:03:50 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, when do you take the Xmas decorations down? I like the lights and would like to leave them on for a while longer but Linda starts dismantling things after the feast of the Epiphany.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:05:58 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, just located groupings of Gottscheers that went to Alliance, Ohio as well as St. Louis. Beverly Eppich Ryan is working on the Norwood crew. Perhaps there is a story for one of the Gottscheer publications in there somewhere. Beverly is very interested in getting information together.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:07:49 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Sometimes it takes me half of January to take everything down. Depends on what else is going on.
- 198.81.17.49 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:09:42 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, I did'nt have a chance to find out more about Deutschmann's family. He was very excited to talk about Gottschee. I found out we went to the same school after the resettlement.
- 67.25.198.151 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:10:06 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
The LDS library has been closed here for a about 3 months, but it is finally open again, so I can start doing more research after the first of the year. Want to do more on the other Gottschee sides of my grandmas family. And do more on the Underbergs also.
- 198.81.17.49 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:11:26 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, the Austrian Farmers celebrated Christmas till Feb. second. They left the tree up untill then. However we never put it up or decorated before Christmas Eve Day.
- 67.25.198.151 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:13:53 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, his tree goes back into the mid 1700s. Only a branch or two is on the short side but his Deutschmanns make it all the way back. I think he will love it. At least I hope so.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:14:08 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I would like to keep my tree up until mid January at the least but I don't have a chance. Some years the tree is ready to go out well before then.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:15:21 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
What other Christmas customs were there in Gottschee?
- 198.81.17.49 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:16:18 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, forgive me, I never answered your question regarding your e-mail, yes we received it and the photos turned out great. I hope you got my e-mail. We did enjoy your visit very much and we are looking forward to the next and hope Linda will come with.
- 67.25.198.151 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:19:27 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, probably not next year but perhaps the year after. We should be able to stay out for most of the week.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:21:24 (UTC)
Franz:
Marilu, I wish I could remember, I was too young to know more. Bits and pieces seem to pop in my memory occasioally.
- 67.25.198.151 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:22:01 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, have you disappeared without a trace?
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:27:25 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, I am looking forward to the occasion. I am going to make sure the whole week is reserved.
- 67.25.198.151 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:28:54 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I will give you plenty of advanced notice. Linda loved it the last time and wants to get back to Marshall Fields.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:35:31 (UTC)
Franz:
Well, it looks like I am the only one left. If so, have a very pleasant week and hope to see you next sunday.
- 67.25.198.151 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:36:01 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, Barbara will be glad to join Linda.
- 67.25.198.151 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:37:05 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night from Colorado also. See you next Sunday.
- 198.81.17.49 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:37:13 (UTC)
Trix:
Sorry everyone. It has been a hectic week and busy day. I wish you all the best as you prepare for the holidays. Think happy thoughts and take care.
- 209.240.237.145 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:39:31 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Good night to everyone. Been a nice evening. Have a good week.
- 205.188.195.183 - Monday, December 17, 2001 at 03:40:47 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Just wanted everyone to know that Marie Wolf passed away this morning-12-18. A wonderful lady. 90 years young. We will miss her. She especially loved Ridy's book. SHe read and re-read it contstantly. SHe and I both loved to play the slot machines at our riverboat casinos. God rest her soul.
- 63.252.224.207 - Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 01:43:59 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Can one of you lovely people tell me what Allemiternander means. Thank you in advance.
- 198.81.16.31 - Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 02:07:57 (UTC)
Trix:
To me allemiteinander means all together.
- 209.240.237.159 - Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 04:06:23 (UTC)
Trix:
To me allemiteinander means all together.
- 209.240.237.159 - Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 04:06:35 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Marilou...Basicly. I think it translates into "ALL WITH ONE ANOTHER"
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 04:59:08 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Thanks everyone!
- 198.81.17.44 - Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 13:30:29 (UTC)
Somebody:
Can anybody help me find Pics of Kuntschen before the war?
I search it as a x-mas gift!
- 62.180.128.18 - Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 13:30:50 (UTC)
Somebody:
Can anybody help me find Pics of Kuntschen before the war?
I search it as a x-mas gift!
- 62.180.128.18 - Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 13:38:08 (UTC)
Somebody:
Can anybody help me find Pics of Kuntschen before the war?
I search it as a x-mas gift!
- 62.180.128.18 - Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 13:38:18 (UTC)
Sue Freudenberg:
Merry Christmas! Do any of you have knowledge Skrill and Sporeben near Stockendorf? Family members with names Brinskelle and Spreitzer are from there and I'd like to find out more about these villages. Thanks!
- 12.78.71.15 - Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 21:23:53 (UTC)
Sophia:
Hi Sue. I am familiar with Sporeben and Stockendorf. Have a connection who was born in Skrill. Please feel free to send me an e-mail at: wyants@mlecmn.net. Look forward to hearing from you.
- 209.240.245.103 - Thursday, December 20, 2001 at 03:37:52 (UTC)
Sophia:
Hi Sue. I am familiar with Sporeben and Stockendorf. Have a connection who was born in Skrill. Please feel free to send me an e-mail at: wyants@mlecmn.net. Look forward to hearing from you.
- 209.240.245.103 - Thursday, December 20, 2001 at 03:38:13 (UTC)
paul BRASINO:
HI SOPHIA///I SEE YOU ARE ON, SO I WOULD LIKE TO WISH YOU AND YOURS A VERY HAPPY AND HEALTHY HOLIDAY SEASON AND BEST WISHES FOR THE NEW YEAR/////
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, December 20, 2001 at 04:41:08 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Sue, Sophia is more familiar with the specific area but I might be able to help put together a nice family tree for the XMas get togethers. No fee; just a hobby and a chance to share information. If interested, you can email me at DocH301454@aol.com. Welcome aboard.
- 205.188.200.29 - Friday, December 21, 2001 at 03:23:56 (UTC)
Sophia:
Paul, thanks very much for the message. May you, too, have a wonderful Christmas and a healthy, peaceful and joyful 2002.
- 209.240.245.77 - Friday, December 21, 2001 at 04:05:46 (UTC)
Somebody:
Hallo, ich suche alle über Kuntschen, Geschichte, Stammbaum und Fotos, mein Großvater kommt aus Kuntschen Haus 7 . Danke im Vorraus!
Hy, i search all about Kuntschen, history, family tree and Pics, my Grandpa is from Kuntschen House 7 . THX !
- 62.180.128.18 - Friday, December 21, 2001 at 08:37:15 (UTC)
Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Lieber Somebody. Bitte schreibe mir direkt on mein e-mail: wyants@mlecmn.net. Wir werden probieren Dir zu helfen. Kannst Du uns den Namen usw geben? Danke. Freue mich auf ein Schreiben. Ich war in der Moschnitze geboren.
Frohe Weihnachten! Wo wohnst Du?
- 209.240.237.156 - Friday, December 21, 2001 at 15:52:17 (UTC)
Gerhard Samide:
Allen "Besuchern" des Plauderzimmers ein
Frohes Weihnachtsfest und FRIEDEN im Neuen Jahr.
Liebe Grüße aus Österreich und Gute Nacht.
Gerhard
- 212.152.150.144 - Saturday, December 22, 2001 at 22:35:22 (UTC)
Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Lieber Gerhard. Danke für Deine guten Wünsche. Auch Dir und Deinen Lieben wünsche ich dasselbe. Bleib gsund!
Sag mal von wo, in Gottschee stammst Du? Ich war in der Moschnitze geboren und wohne seit 1952 in Amerika.
Schreib wieder mal. Es würde uns alle freuen. Frohe Weihnachten!
- 209.240.245.88 - Sunday, December 23, 2001 at 05:13:25 (UTC)
Albert Mallner:
Durch die Zeitverschiebung bin ich beim plaudern nie dabei,aber beim lesen unerhalte ich mich auch gut.
Frohe Weihnachten und alles Gute im Neuen Jahr 2002 sendet allen Gottscheern Albert Mallner,Graz.
- 212.152.229.72 - Sunday, December 23, 2001 at 21:59:24 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Lieber Herr Mallner: Von einem Grazer im Plauderzimmer zu höhren freut mich ganz besonders. Obwohl ich noch in Gottschee geboren war, kommt immer zuerst Graz in meine Gedanken wenn ich an Daheim denke. Heute, z.B., erzählte ich vom Eislaufen am Hilmteich - leider das letztemal vor 54 Jahren. . . .ist er schon gefroren?
Auch Ihnen Frohe Weihnachten, und ein Gutes Neues Jahr!
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 01:07:15 (UTC)
Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
Grüß Dich Albert und vielen Dank für Deine Weihnachtswünsch. We all wish you the same. THANK YOU for your mail. It was wonderful to hear from you. We have a white Christmas having received 5 inches of snow during the night. It is a winter wonderland and quite cold. Stay well and regards to all fellow Gottscheers in Granz und Umgebung.
- 209.240.245.85 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 01:12:14 (UTC)
Sophia Stalzer-Wyant:
To all chat room friends Merry Christmas. Enjoy the day, count your blessings and think happy thoughts. I am honored by your friendship. Special greetings to the regulars, Ridy; Dr. Jim; Mr. Rabuse; Chicago Franz, Marilu; Margaret Jonke, Cook Islands Richard and all our silent listeners. Come aboard. You will enjoy it. FROHE WEIHNACHTEN ALLEMITEINANDER!
- 209.240.245.85 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 01:14:22 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Froeliche Weinacht. I am logging on from Fargo, ND. Snowy, cold, very Christmasy. Will only post my greeting then go back to our party. See you next Sunday night.
- 63.253.206.100 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 01:30:42 (UTC)
Pat Stonish Warning:
Have a Very Merry Christmas. Happy & Healthy New Year
- 204.186.36.132 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:04:43 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Merry Christmas to all of my chat room pals. No snow in NJ. I always enjoy a little of the fluffy stuff at this time of year but I think we will be getting rain instead of snow.
- 152.163.201.48 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:05:17 (UTC)
Pat Stonish Warning:
No snow here in PA. that's a switch, don't bother me none
- 204.186.36.132 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:09:30 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Wishing all my chat room friends a Blessed and Happy Christmas. We celebrated today with all my kids and grandkids. Had a wonderful day. I have a new digital camera to play with. No snow here, maybe we will some by Christmas Day.
- 198.81.16.37 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:09:48 (UTC)
Eddie Rabuse:
Good evening to all my Gottscheer buddies, and I wish all of you a very Merry CHRISTmas and a Happy and healthy New Year!
- 64.12.101.171 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:11:29 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Anyone still in the house? Tomorrow and Tuesday are fast approaching. I enjoy giving gifts and trying to surprise my wife.
- 152.163.201.48 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:18:53 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I'm tempted to ask you to send lifeboats! Toronto is having nothing but rain, rain, rain. Of course you don't have to shovel it, but it doesn't look a lot like Christmas. . . .it's more like April! I just noticed today that my rose bushes have new shoots on them, and my daffodils are at least about 6" high. Is this crazy, of what?!
But I do want to take this opportunity to wish all of you in cyberspace a very wonderful Christmas with your families!
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:22:08 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Any one still here, or are we all playing tag.
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:24:06 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Hi Marilu! I'm still here and I think Jim was around somewhere as well.
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:25:32 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Ridy
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:26:53 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Yes, I think we are playing chat room tag. It is one of those nights where people are slipping in and out.
- 152.163.201.48 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:27:02 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:27:51 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Merrry Christmas to all plauderzimmer friends. No coals please.
Frohe Weihnachten Allen Freunden im Plauderzimmer.
- 67.25.197.182 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:27:52 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Most of my family has left, except two grandkids, their mommy is coming back to pick up. and I about have the kitchen cleaned up. Thank God for dishwashers.
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:28:45 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Franz
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:29:06 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Still poking around the Ellis Island records and crosschecking them with those in my file. Some good matches. I found both of my grandparents as well as most of their siblings. Bevery Eppich Ryan of Norwood, Mass. is doing a lot of legwork with a passle of Ebentalers that emigrated there. Eppiches everywhere as well as some Jonkes, Hoglers, Jaklitsches, and others.
- 152.163.201.48 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:29:25 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Franz does that translate to Merry Christmas all my Plauderzimmer friends?
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:30:00 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Franz, Marilu, and Ridy.
- 152.163.201.48 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:30:10 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I am finally ready for Christmas. All the decorations are up inside -- we're skipping the outside this year because the neighbourhood has gone a bit over the top and so they won't miss ours. But I have my crib, ready to be put up under the tree tomorrow. It's a hand-carved crib from Austria, complete with animals, shepherds, the holy family, and the three Kings. Absolutely beautiful and a prized possession.
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:30:30 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, thank you so much for filling my order so prompt. The books arrived yesterday and will find a place under the tree tomorrow. Again, Vergelts Gott.
- 67.25.197.182 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:30:32 (UTC)
Eddie :
Hi Ridy, Marilou,and Jim. I'm still here - for the time being anyway. Marilou, you got your Christmas present early? What kind of camera did Santa bring you?
- 64.12.101.171 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:30:48 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, you are becoming fluent in your translations. We will be okay until Franz and Ridy go off into a Gottscheer riff.
- 152.163.201.48 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:30:56 (UTC)
pat stonish warning:
My aunt married a joseph jacklitsch and resided in woodside,queens
- 204.186.36.132 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:31:26 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Eddie Hello. Santa was my son, and it is a Kodak very nice one. I shall have lots of fun with it.
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:31:34 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim does that mean I was pretty close?
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:32:14 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Marilu, right on. Your German is coming along.
- 67.25.197.182 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:32:42 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Hello Franz and Eddie.
I'm so glad the postal service is functioning at full speed, Franz. I got quite a few orders last week, and I hope they still all reach their destination.
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:32:45 (UTC)
Eddie :
And hi to you too, Franz. How is the weather in Chicago?
- 64.12.101.171 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:32:48 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
There are some people with last name of Jacklitsch where I am from in Minnesota.
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:32:57 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
We have all of ours out but the one motif that we are missing outside is the Nativity scene. We have one in the living room where the tree is but we would like to get a small one to put under the tree at the end of the driveway. A nice place to remind people that Christmas is not just Santa and the Snowman.
- 152.163.201.48 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:33:07 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have to admit that one was pretty easy to translate tho.
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:33:42 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Eddie.
Marilu, most likely from the same area. Uncertain as to whether they are from Gottschee or surrounding districts.
- 152.163.201.48 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:34:07 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, you should take a picture of your nativity scene and send us pictures of it. It sounds beautiful.
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:35:15 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Jim - I agree with you. I really think it's time we all thought a little about the real meaning of Christmas. It does tend to get lost in all the rush to get everything done. A nativity scene outside would certainly make a positive statement.
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:35:29 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, I called my sister yesterday, tried some gottscheer talk but my toungue failed.
- 67.25.197.182 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:36:18 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
At the moment, Marilu, I don't have a camera which works!
This from a gal who used to drive everyone crazy with always travelling with three cameras. But like me, they all got past their prime. I may start throwing hints around about wanting one for my birthday!
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:37:13 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have a nativity scene under my tree, in the bay window, but you cannot see it from the street. It is a little one I bought 40 years ago. I have a big one that I did not get out of the box this year.
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:38:00 (UTC)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
Merry Christmas to you all!
Ridy: Eric Kraker loaned your book to a friend in Cleveland area. He said she was overjoyed and found pictures of her two sisters and many people she knew.
Jim: Thanks for helping determine family connections. We have been receiving e-mail regularly from a new-found cousin in British Columbia.
Franz: Happy holidays to you and your family!
We had all our kids and grandkids here Saturday night for gift opening and buffet dinner. Our house is still standing and so are we! Christmas Day, several will come back for dinner, but others are going to their in-laws.
Happy holidays to you all!
- 209.151.190.231 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:38:00 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Eddie, weather was unusual mild. Today it started snowing.
- 67.25.197.182 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:38:42 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Welcome back, Ed and Mary!!! I had a computer crash a while back, and your e-mail address seems to have been one of a group which disappeared. Don't know how that works, but I wanted to send you a Christmas message, and couldn't find your address.
I've had some orders from people whom I've never heard of -- among them some from Ohio -- and it may have been from people who saw the book. I've been a bit amused, because several orders have come from MDs. . . .
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:41:08 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Franz - I've found myself dreaming in Gottscheerisch a few times lately! Does that mean I'm returning to my childhood?
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:44:12 (UTC)
Eddie :
Franz, NY/NJ is looking forward to some snow for the holidays. Please send some down our way! Ridy, Ottawa weather shows snow showers for the next 10 days. Now that's the place to be this time of year!
- 64.12.101.171 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:45:17 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, are you close to being a best seller yet? How about a sequel?
- 152.163.201.48 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:45:54 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Eddie - talked to Elfie earlier, and it was raining! But they have enough snow on the ground that the rain won't wash it all away.
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:46:42 (UTC)
Eddie :
Yea Ridy, how 'bout a sequel?
- 64.12.101.171 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:47:03 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Colorado had had snow all around us, but none here in Canon City. It is an ugly brown here right now. Doesn't look like Christmas at all.
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:47:46 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
We had a Nativity scene in the center of our town. The last four years Joseph, Mary and the Baby were taken. This year they enclosed it with plexiglas and on Friday morning at about 5:00 am someone set it on fire and it burned totally.
- 67.25.197.182 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:47:52 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Jim - it's been a best-seller among the Ebentaler Parish crowd for a while now. The next step is to become a best-seller in the City of Gottschee. That may be more difficult!
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:48:04 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Eddie - could you put your suggestion in verse form, please?
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:49:00 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Franz - are you talking about Chicago or your suburb?
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:49:34 (UTC)
Eddie :
Ridy, as long as there is some snow when I'm there in Feb. Bring your sled!
- 64.12.101.171 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:49:37 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, tell us about your Gotscheer Dreams.
- 67.25.197.182 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:50:28 (UTC)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
It has been so warm in Ohio that yesterday we saw pine roping trimming a porch _ just above the family's Shasta daisies that were still blooming!
Some snow is predicted here for Monday and Tuesday, however.
Ridy: Our e-mail address is ekrock@clover.net.
- 209.151.190.231 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:50:53 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
The last sled I had, Eddie, was left in Kukendorf. It had been made for my by my cousins, Josef and Franz Högler, a.k.a. Miklsch
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:51:23 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, our fine suburban town.
- 67.25.197.182 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:51:28 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Franz - that's so sad. Vandalism like that hurts everyone. In our area the preferred vandalism is stealing stop signs and breaking off young trees. .. .
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:54:52 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Hi Ed and Mary, nice to have you back.
- 67.25.197.182 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:55:10 (UTC)
Eddie :
Ridy, I guess we'll have to go ice skating instead! You didn't leave your skates back in Kukendorf also, or did you?
- 64.12.101.158 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:56:42 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
So - how does everyone feel about Rudy Giuliani being named Man of the Year by Time? I think it's GREAT!
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:56:56 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
No, Eddie - the skates are rusting away out in the garage somewhere! They're much safer where they are. Gimme a break, eh?!
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:58:10 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Thank goodness it wasn't Usama Bin Laden. Rudy is a good choice.
- 152.163.201.48 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:58:51 (UTC)
Eddie :
Ridy, An author like you-there is no equal,Dr. Jim and I demand a sequel!
- 64.12.101.158 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 02:58:56 (UTC)
Eddie :
Yes, Rudy is a good choice. A good New York republican!
- 64.12.101.158 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:01:38 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Well, it rhymes, Eddie - but I don't think it's quite enough!
Jim - I'm with you on that. Bin Laden may have set this whole tragedy in motion, but who needs a mass murderer to get the recognition. Rudy deserved it.
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:02:28 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
What happened to Ed and Mary and Franz and Marilu? Are you into the eggnog again?
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:06:55 (UTC)
Eddie :
Well folks,it's time for me to sign off. My computer is in our spare room and our guests need to go to sleep as they had a long day.Again, have a merry CHRISTmas and a Happy New Year.
- 64.12.101.153 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:08:08 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Jim, I haven't thanked you for Karl Deutschmann's file. Barbara took it to the Kaffeeklatsch along with one of our distinguished writers books and gave them to his wife. I also made a copy of the trip registration for the gen. trip. I have not heard from him yet.
- 67.25.197.182 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:08:19 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ah, eggnog -- too late to be dabbling with that. Would stick to the ribs like a ton of bricks. Tomorrow night will be the mulled spice wine and the beginning of high calorie intake. NFL here I come.
- 152.163.201.48 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:08:50 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I am still here. Just checking on the grand kids. Put a movie in for them.
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:09:19 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
G'nite Eddie ~
Hope the Kristkindl is good to you!
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:09:39 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, would be interested in Karl's reaction. Perhaps it will stir some genealogy interest over the Xmas dinner.
- 152.163.201.48 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:10:01 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Ridy, I'm still here but my comp. seemed to have a brief seizure.
- 67.25.197.182 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:10:09 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Ah, another poet in the group! So why would the eggnog stick to the ribs, Jim? Just askin'
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:11:20 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Good Night and Frohe Weihnachten Eddie. How is your VOLVO?
- 67.25.197.182 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:11:36 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Do all of you follow the American custom and open your gifts on Christmas morning, or are you like me and still follow the European tradition and open gifts on Christmas Eve?
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:13:45 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
We are split in the Heimann house. Linda and I open our gifts on the eve but everyone else opens them in the morning.
- 152.163.201.48 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:15:44 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We usually open family gifts on Christmas eve, and the Santa presents on Christmas morning. However, today was our Christmas Eve. We opened presents this morning before by husband went to work at 1:00 pm
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:16:03 (UTC)
Trix:
Good Evening one and all. Greetings from a very tired lady in MN. Have had a busy day but the Gottscheer Connection is ready for the printer. YIPPEE. Hope you are all doing GREAT.
- 209.240.245.85 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:16:25 (UTC)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
We are completing some last-minute correspondence and watching a TV show about old-home restoration. Nice to chat with you all again. Hope you all have a very nice holiday!
- 209.151.190.231 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:16:48 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, Good evening and Merry Christmas.
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:17:25 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Frohe Weihnachten to you, Ed and Mary! It was great having you on again, and please stay in touch!
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:18:06 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
You never cease to amaze me, Trix -- how you manage to do it all.
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:19:13 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi Mary Lou. The same to you. We indeed do have a white Christmas. Received 5 inches of snow during the night. It is beautiful and peaceful. Even the deer decided to stay put.
- 209.240.245.85 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:19:17 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy: Don't be so kind. It is desperation sometimes. I only get Maria so often and when we get together our join projects need to get done. But, I am glad to admit it - I am beat but feel good too. How are you?
- 209.240.245.85 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:20:34 (UTC)
Franz:
For what it's worth, our kids come for Christmas Eve dinner. after the dinner we open our presents and either go to midnight mass or we drive into the City and attend a German Mass with a wonderful German Chorus. In the afternoon we have the rest of Barbaras Family for dinner and open the rest of the presents.
- 67.25.194.74 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:22:58 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Is your daughter home from New Mexico, Franz?
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:24:13 (UTC)
Trix:
You might enjoy this. Received some marvelous photos yesterday from Slovenia. The Gymnasium in the City of Gtotschee where many Gottscheers went to school has been renovated by the government. It is beautifully done. Question: Gymnasium - would that be like a college of Jr. College or? Anybody? Thanks.
- 209.240.245.85 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:26:07 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Have to go for now. Take care and have a wonderful Christmas.
- 152.163.201.48 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:26:11 (UTC)
Franz:
Yes Ridy, after 9/11 she wanted to be close to her family. She moved back after Jim was here. It's nice to have her close again.
- 67.25.194.74 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:26:17 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Frohe Weihnachten!
- 209.240.245.85 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:27:12 (UTC)
Franz:
Good Night Jim and a Merry Christmas to you and your Loved Ones.
- 67.25.194.74 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:28:10 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I always thought of the Gymnasium as an upscale high school. You either went to the Hauptschule after Grade 4 - which headed you into a community college stream, or you went to the Gymnasium, which prepared you for University.
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:28:14 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Gute Nacht, Jim!
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:29:23 (UTC)
Franz:
Wow Ridy, you are on top of things.
- 67.25.194.74 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:29:58 (UTC)
Trix:
Well friends it's time to call it a night. Have a wonderful Christmas. Take care, enjoy your family and friends and think happy thoughts. God Bless.
- 209.240.245.85 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:30:44 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Like you, Franz, I was in the system over there! Never could figure out why Alfons got to go to the Gymnasium while I was in the Hauptschule. . . .guess it had to do with something or other!
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:31:42 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:32:20 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Whoops sent that before I was ready!
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:32:42 (UTC)
Franz:
One by One they drop off including this one. Good night und Frohe Weihnachten. Hope to see you all next sunday.
- 67.25.194.74 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:32:59 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night and Merry Christmas everyone.
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:33:21 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I'm right behind you, Trix. . . it's been a long day and tomorrow will be much longer.
Good night, everyone, and I hope all of you will receive all the blessings of Christmas - and let's hope it's a Stille Nacht, Heilige Nacht throughout our world.
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:33:45 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Frohe Weihnaachten.
- 198.81.17.189 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:34:11 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, as you know, it was and still is kind of a class system. I had a hard time to convice them for the Hauptschule. One of the reasons I thaught there must be a better chance out there. Here I am in AMERIKA.
- 67.25.194.74 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:36:35 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
I'm with you, Franz. Even though, after all these many years, I still sometimes get a bit homesick, I am very, very glad to be over here. It's home now.
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:38:49 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, the same with me. All my family is still back there. Yes there is a bit of that and I guess it will always be. Tha's life, we made choices and have to live them.
- 67.25.194.74 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:41:55 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Ahö geaht's af dr balt. . . . ubr nü mies abr schlufn gean. ..Gütei Nocht, Fronz. . .
- 64.229.234.201 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:44:40 (UTC)
Franz:
Guetei Nocht, Ridy.
- 67.25.194.74 - Monday, December 24, 2001 at 03:45:18 (UTC)
Gerhard Samide:
Hallo Gottscheer,Ridy, Franz, Sophia, Dr. Jim,und.......
nochmals frohe Weihnachten.
Hoffe Ihr habt den Weihnachtsabend gut verbracht.
Bi uns in Österreich ist herrliches Winterwetter mit Schnne bis in die Niederungen.
Ridy, habe heute mit meiner Schwester die in der Südsteiermark (Ratsch nähe Gamlitz)wohnt berichtete mir, dass auch in Graz ist Schnee ist und bei den derzeitigen Temperaturen (bis Minus 20° C)denke ich dass auch der Hilmteich zugefroren ist. Nochmals liebe Weihnachtsgrüße an ALLE.
PS Ridy, bitte könntest Du für Dr.Jim übersetzen? Danke
Gerhard
- 212.152.150.144 - Tuesday, December 25, 2001 at 15:01:17 (UTC)
Gerhard Samide:
Muss leider meine Fehler von vorhin ausbessern.
Hallo Gottscheer,Ridy, Franz, Sophia, Dr. Jim,und alle die Anderen.......
Nochmals frohe Weihnachten.
Hoffe Ihr habt den Weihnachtsabend gut verbracht.
Bei uns in Österreich ist herrliches Winterwetter mit Schnne bis in die Niederungen.
Ridy, habe heute mit meiner Schwester die in der Südsteiermark wohnt (Ratsch nähe Gamlitz)telefoniert. Sie berichtete mir, dass auch in Graz Schnee ist und bei den derzeitigen Temperaturen (bis Minus 20° C)denke ich, dass auch der Hilmteich zugefroren ist. Nochmals liebe Weihnachtsgrüße an ALLE.
PS Ridy, bitte könntest Du für Dr.Jim übersetzen? Danke
Gerhard
- 212.152.150.144 - Tuesday, December 25, 2001 at 15:05:28 (UTC)
Sophia:
Lieber Gerhard. Danke für Deine Grüße. Ja, auch in Minnesota ist es zur Zeit sehr kalt and haben auch Schnee. Nun zu einer Frage Gerhard, von wo in Gottschee stammst Du? Ich war in der Moschnitze geboren. Danke und alles, alles Gute.
- 209.240.237.140 - Tuesday, December 25, 2001 at 20:54:28 (UTC)
Gerhard Samide:
Hallo Sophia!
Ich bin in Amstetten in Österreich geboren, aber mein Großvater Josef Samide wurde in Schalkendorf 20, Gottschee, 1864 geboren. Seine Eltern waren Johann und Maria Samide geborene Hutter. Die Informationen zu meinen Ahnen und der Gottschee stammen von meinem Vater, Dr. Jim Heiman und natürlich aus dem Internet.
Leider kenne ich nicht die Lage der einzelnen Ortschaften, aber auch das wird mit der Zeit hoffentlich noch kommen.
Freue mich aber über jede Information die ich über meine Vorfahren bekommen kann.
Gruß Gerhard
- 212.152.150.144 - Wednesday, December 26, 2001 at 19:03:37 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Gruess Dich Gott Gerhard. Es ist schoen von einem Gottschee-
Oesterreicher zu lesen. Du musst einmal um 3 Uhr morgens aufstehen und in unserer Plauderstunde mitmachen. Du sagst von Deiner Schwester die bei Gamlitz wohnt. Ich kann mich noch an eine Weinlese mit den bekannten Backhendln erinnern.
Der Gamlitzer Wein war sehr beliebt.
Wir haben zur Zeit in Chicago nur etwas Staubschnee, es ist aber schon kalt geworden. Sophia und Ridy haben endlich den Nordwind zu uns geblasen. Gerhard, vor meiner Auswanderung hatte ich auch einige Jahre in Graz und Kapfenberg verbracht.
Ich wuensche Dir auch ein Frohes und Gesegnetes Weihnachtsfest sowie
viel Glueck und Gesundheit zum Neuen Jahr,
Franz
- 172.138.249.122 - Friday, December 28, 2001 at 01:40:44 (UTC)
Friedl:
FROHE WEIHNACHTEN und VIEL GLUECK IM NEUEN JAHR.AN OICH ALLE FRIEDL FON RUSSBACH
- 152.163.197.47 - Friday, December 28, 2001 at 21:33:43 (UTC)
Friedl:
JETS IN NY
- 152.163.197.47 - Friday, December 28, 2001 at 21:35:13 (UTC)
:
Go Bills!
- 64.229.232.161 - Saturday, December 29, 2001 at 05:59:11 (UTC)
Sophia:
Hi Friedl. Yeah, go Bills go. After the Vikings and their season anybody can go. Hope they win. Am assuming they are playing and you are cheering them on. Good for you.
So tell us who are you? Am assuming you have a Gottscheer connection? Might I ask to which village?
Look forward to hearing from you. Have a good day and a HAPPY NEW YEAR to you too.
- 209.240.245.66 - Saturday, December 29, 2001 at 20:51:08 (UTC)
Gerhard Samide:
Hallo Sophia, wie ich sehe habe ich dich leider um einige Stunden verpasst.
Wünsche Dir ein GLÜCKLICHES NEUES JAHR.
Gerhard
- 212.152.237.160 - Saturday, December 29, 2001 at 21:57:05 (UTC)
Gerhard Samide:
Hallo Franz,
danke für Deine Weihnachts und Neujahrswünsche!
Es ist noch immer schön in der Südsteiermark, besonders im Herbst um die Weinlesezeit wenn die Weinblätter in den verschiedensten Farben leuchten.
Wünsche Dir und Allen Gottscheern noch schöne Stunden im Plauderzimmer.
Gerhard
- 212.152.237.160 - Saturday, December 29, 2001 at 22:09:38 (UTC)
Gerhard Samide:
Allen Besuchern des Plauderzimmers,
besonders aber an Ridy, Dr. Jim, Franz und Sophia
Glück und Gesundheit für's Neue Jahr.
Zeit zum schlafen geh'n für mich, muß Morgen schon früh aus den Federn. (23:26 Uhr)
Liebe Grüße an ALLE!
Gerhard
- 212.152.237.160 - Saturday, December 29, 2001 at 22:25:11 (UTC)
Paul Brasino/Adeline Jaklitsch:
WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY AND HEALTHY NEW YEAR, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PLEASANT READING DURING THIS SOON TO BE "PAST" YEAR.....GOD BLESS.........
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, December 30, 2001 at 00:00:23 (UTC)
Sophia:
Paul and Adeline: The same good wishes to you both. Take care and join us tomorrow night for the Plauderzimmer visiting.
- 209.240.237.176 - Sunday, December 30, 2001 at 04:14:13 (UTC)
Pat(Stonish)Warning:
Happy and Healthy New Year To All.......
- 204.186.36.17 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 01:45:50 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Wie geht es bei Euch? Mir geht es gut. Now to English. Hope all had a beautiful Xmas. We were in Fargo, ND. Cold!!
- 63.252.221.81 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:04:33 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello, Pat! And Welcome to the Plauderzimmer! Stick around and help me get everything ready for the chatterers. I've got the fire going in the fireplace, the red wine and spices are heating on the stove, the cookies still have to be arranged on a platter - there are Kipferl, of course, and Zimt Sterne, and Haselnußbällchen, and Linzer Gebäck, and there is still a Nußstrudel which we will cut into nice, generous slices. There's also a basket of fruit and nuts. . . .everything we need for a gemütlich evening of chitchat. For those who don't like the mulled wine, there's a bottle of Eierlikör up on the shelf -- may as well put that out on a tray with some Stamperl. Hope the guest arrive soon!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:04:45 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Margaret! You've been doing some studying! Very good!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:06:14 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Got a letter from cousin Pete Jonke. It was written to my oma from his oma in 1937. He wanted it translated, so I sent it to cousins Ilse and Helmut Stalzer. Am anxious to see what it was about.
- 63.252.221.81 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:07:46 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Margaret - we had a lovely Christmas, but only a dusting of snow in Toronto. Good thing too, because all our snow-removal was sent to Buffalo a few days ago to help them dig out. It's cold though, and windy.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:07:54 (UTC)
Trix:
Good Evening Margaret, Pat and Ridy. Nothing like being the hostess with the mostest Ridy. Congratulations! You are one classy lady and I am on my way. No doubt will be joined by the regulars. Hope so anyway.
Margaret, Dein Deutsch wird immer besster. Du bist eine guten Stundentin or Margaret, you German is better all the time. You are a good student. So, Guten Abend alle miteinander (Ridy, is that one words or can it be written as is?)
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:08:03 (UTC)
Trix:
Margaret: I made a mistake. It should read: Du bist eine gute... and ...Dein Deutsch wird immer besser...So, don't listen to Trix who can't keep her German straight. These darn fingers just don't do what they are told.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:09:59 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I'll have to check my libretto of Der Vogelhändler, Trix. . . but I think it's one word. You know, like Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaft!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:10:33 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Talked to Marie Wolf's daughter, Lottie, lst week after the funeral. I don't think the family would want a biographical sketch for the Gottscheer magazine. I would have been happy to write it, but they are private people. However, we all will remember Marie for taking us to Cleveland that wonderful Labor Day week-end. SHe said she wanted us to know where we came from. Now we do.
- 63.252.221.81 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:11:01 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello Everyone! Happy New Year!
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:11:43 (UTC)
Trix:
Wow, Ridy, that is a mouthful isn't it? Are you keeping warm? It has been nippy at Waukenabo. Had 8°F this morning but the sun came out and it actually felt very nice out. Took a nice walk down the lake road, very peaceful and quiet.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:12:33 (UTC)
Trix:
Greetings Marilu. OK guys, so we have 4 women chatting away. It's o.k. - come and join us anytime.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:14:04 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, the menu for the evening sounds wonderful. All I have is some white wine, and my favorite potato chips!
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:14:13 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
We're supposed to go down to 21°F tonight, but we're already at 22°F now. It feels pretty raw outside--definitely not my cup of tea.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:15:45 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We finally had some snow last night. About 1-2 inches is all, but it made for a pretty sight this morning when I got up.
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:16:20 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Marilu - potato chips are not a Gottscheer thing! Potatoes roasted in a campfire would be!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:16:36 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Oh, I love potatoes in a campfire when we all go camping everyyear. We are definitely a potato family!
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:17:39 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
The Irish existed on potatoes. And so did the Gottscheers. That's what we had most every night for dinner, when I was growing up. And raw potato dumplings. Yum!
- 63.252.221.81 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:19:28 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Fried potatoes are my favorite, baked second, but potato chips are high on my list also. Mashed are good if you leave the peelings on, but I usually leave them on the fried also. lololol
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:22:16 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Since we were all very, very good all year, I know we all got tons of presents. One of mine was the new book which has been put out by the GHGA, called GOTTSCHEE 1406-1627: Feudal Domain on the Frontier of Empire, originally written by Georg Widmer (who was Arnold Rom's uncle) and translated by Andrew J. Witter, with a whole lot of groundwork and help from Martha Hutter, Edith and Helmut Herold, Max Mische, and Thomas Bencin. I have the original German version, but it was difficult reading through that because of the old style of writing. The translation is a very worthwhile addition to anyone's library on Gottschee.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:22:47 (UTC)
Trix:
I have been reflecting on the Umsiedlung this year. Made for a very emotional Christmas. On Dec. 28 it was 60 years since we left the homeland, by train from Schemitsch. I can still see our dog, standing on the platform by the railroad station as the train slowly pulled away. Imagine, after 60 years I find it still very emotional. I wish I could ask my mom and dad what they thought about during that time. Was it fear of the unknown; excitement about going to a safe area or? So, if there is anybody out there who might still have parents who participated in the Umsiedlung, please do me a favor and ask what went through their minds at that time.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:23:16 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy, thanks for your comments about the book. I agree, it made for very difficult reading but a must for every Gottscheer library.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:25:04 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Trixie -
Ray just brought me the libretto and you are right! It is two words. And since it's sung in dialect, it's 'olle miteinander'
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:26:03 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, that book sounds like one I should have. I got a new digital camera that I am sure is going to come in very handy this year. Trix, it would be interesting to know what went thru peoples minds at such a terrible time. I wish I could know what my ancestors were thinking when they came here also.
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:26:16 (UTC)
Trix:
Margaret, I have a new friend in Kansas City who just learned how to make Kartoffel Knödel (with raw potatoes). She loves them. I have not eaten for years. Do you have a recipe?
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:27:10 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I haven't read much of the translated version yet, Trix, but what I've read so far is a whole lot easier to read than the German was! You really have to switch your thoughts into that time period!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:28:00 (UTC)
Trix:
OK Marilu. What kind of digital camera and how difficult are they to use? I am intimidated by them but am thinking about one anyway.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:28:36 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Just printed out your "reflection" comment. Am sending it to my cousins the Stalzers/Lackners. They MIGHT share some of their experiences of the Umsiedlung. THere is one person I know who simply will not talk about it. He acts like his life began, when his family made it to the US.
- 63.252.221.81 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:28:39 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy: What is a libretto? Where do you buy it?
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:29:34 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, I have a Kodak DX 3500. My computer genius son picked it out for me, and if you study the book it is not too hard to use. I think I am going to love it.
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:30:29 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Sorry. No recipe for knoedel. Just remember watching oma. I remember how she did it. Don't know amounts etc. Sorry.
- 63.252.221.81 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:30:37 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Is a libretto and dictionary?
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:30:53 (UTC)
Trix:
Margaret: Where do the Stalzer/Lackners live now?
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:30:57 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
trix: Ilse and Helmut Stalzer live in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Eddie Stalzer lives in New Hamp. Werner Lackner lives in Hopewell Junction, NY. We keep in touch with email.
- 63.252.221.81 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:32:18 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Trix - there's a recipe for Potato Dumplings in Albert Belay's cookbook on page 90 . . . sounds like the real McCoy to me.
The libretto consists of the words to the music being sung. It usually comes with a record album. Possibly the term is just used for Operas and Operettas.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:33:33 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I never have gotten that cookbook ordered. I need to do that!!!!
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:35:04 (UTC)
Trix:
Yeap, the recipe in Belay's cookbook is the one I sent to the Kartoffel Königin in Kansas City. She loves them and has such a wonderful sense of humor too.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:35:41 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Marilu ~
Does your camera also do those short video sequences? Or do all digital cameras do that?
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:39:05 (UTC)
Franz:
Good evening, looks like it's Ladies Night.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:39:10 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Sorry to log off. Auf Wiedersehen. Gluckliches Neues Jahr. Bleib gesund.
- 63.252.221.81 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:39:57 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi Chicago Franz. We are delighted to have you join us. How goes it?
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:40:30 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Guten Abend, Franz! We've been waiting for some male company to balance the conversation!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:40:32 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Hello everyone. Sorry for the late start. I have been "on hold" trying to set up a cable modem.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:40:56 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Margaret! There's a fine for checking out early!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:41:15 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, nope I don't think so.
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:41:25 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hello, Jim! Does that mean you'll be on high speed cable now?
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:42:09 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy: You have to share your hostess menu for the evening now. We have company and they will enjoy your selections.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:42:15 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Happy New Year Franz and Jim. Did you see we finally had a little snow in Canon City.
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:42:30 (UTC)
Trix:
Marilu: Just quickly and simply, tell me how do you use the digitatl camera. You put the film in, you shoot the photos now what?
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:43:30 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
That is what I am aiming for but the guy showed up on Friday and left with the computer malfunctioning and the modem not set up. He said his supervisor would be here on Saturday. I did not believe him and I was right --- noone showed up. Now I have been going from one area to the other at Comcast without much luck.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:44:10 (UTC)
Franz:
Had a nice afternoon and evening. Just came back from the city. The American Symph. with an Austrian Maestro and Soprano gave a "Salute to Vienna" performance with Strauss and Lehar music, just wonderful.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:44:44 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Once it works, the cable modem should help me out as I happily surf through the Ellis Island information.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:44:50 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ah, classical music. I hear it wafting through the modem even as we speak.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:45:32 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I'm sitting here laughing, Trix! The first time my son showed me his digital camera, I wanted to know where the film goes, because it didn't seem big enough to hold it. That's when I found it it doesn't use film. Step No.1 in educating mother. Step #2 hasn't happened yet.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:45:38 (UTC)
Trix:
Does anyone ever watch the New Years Eve special on PBS, hosted by Walter Cronkite from Vienna? I don't think we have ever missed it. It is absolutely wonderful.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:46:30 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Might that have been Julius Rudel and who would the soprano have been, Franz?
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:47:02 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, as Ridy says, no film. Uses a flash card, like a floppy for the computer, but much smaller. Then you transfer pictures to your computer.
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:47:28 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy; Lesson 1 gratefully received and acknowledged. Now you MUST go to lesson 2 and share, ok? Danke.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:48:08 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I always watch it - but I liked it better when Beverly Sills hosted it. She's all Puff and Schlag, whereas Walter is so pompous. Love him, though!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:48:26 (UTC)
Trix:
OK Marilu, how do you transfer it?
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:49:06 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, on a desktop you use a USB connection. On my laptop, the flash card fits right in a slot.
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:50:09 (UTC)
Franz:
Trix, it was Karl Sollack and Ute Gfrerer, both relative young but excellent. Well, young compared to us,
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:50:16 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I have all three types of cameras -- regular 35 mm, Advantix, and digital. I am still not sure which I prefer. The Advantix is the smallest and lightest. The regular 35 mm is the largest but the most versatile.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:50:38 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Is the special from Vienna on tomorrow night?
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:51:19 (UTC)
Trix:
Just to change the subject for a moment. Remember the GHGA Restoration Fundraiser going on? I am delighted to tell you that we just hit $9,000.00. I am hoping we might make it to $10,000.00.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:51:24 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz - everybody is young, compared to us! Will have to watch for those names. We have a similar concert here in Toronto -- New Year's in Vienna. Never went yet. It's downtown, after all, and I'm out in the boonies.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:51:57 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, do you mean the New Years concert from Vienna on New Years Day on PBS? I never miss it.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:52:39 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
The digital concept is interesting but it is not as easy or as useful as the manufacturers would like you to believe. The most problematic area is that people still like to look at photo albums and that means you have to access the photos, open them with a program, and then print them out. And if you don't like how they look, you have to "play" with them with the program.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:52:56 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Most PBS stations show it tomorrow, Marilu, but it's on at different times in different areas. You'll have to check your TV Guide
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:53:44 (UTC)
Trix:
Marilu: Yes, the special is on tomorrow night, maybe 9 p.m. My honey and I plan to enjoy steak and lobster. Doesn't it sound just terrific? Oh, oh, not good - we are back to food again. I am sorry but could not resist.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:54:01 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Right now I would love to hear the concert from Vienna. I have musak playing in my ear while I impatiently wait for someone else at Comcast to tell me that I am in cable modem trouble.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:54:40 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
that is all true, Jim, but the newer the camera the better picture it takes. I have a 35 m Pentax zoom camera that I still like also.
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:54:42 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, looks like you are all tangled up with yor Computer.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:55:31 (UTC)
Trix:
Franz, come to think of it you might be right. I might be on New Years Day instead.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:55:48 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Yes, that's the one, Franz. And when they get to the Radetsky Marsch I like to sing my father's version of it. . . wenn der Hund mit der Katze über'n Kirchturm springt, und wenn er wieder umma kimmt. . . .etc. Very irreverent..
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:56:03 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
The pictures look wonderful on the monitor but there is also the printer that you have to throw into the mix. Still not convinced that I should switch to the digital camera. It does make it easier to send photos via email and the internet.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:56:49 (UTC)
Trix:
OK regarding the camera. If I continue to use my regular camera can't I have a disc made of the photos, in addition to have them developed the old fashioned way? I agree, people, including me, still like to look at a regular photo which will go into an album.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:57:34 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Two other families and all our kids have a New Years Eve party. Tradition for the last 20+ years. It is not at my house this year. Started it when our kids were teenagers to keep them at home and off the streets. And now the grandkids don't want to miss out on it!
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:57:53 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, I am ready to take my new axe and maul to it. I just hope that I eventually get it set up correctly. The support staff for these companies are "sehr schlecht".
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:58:35 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Absolutely right -- it is shown on New Year's Day, not New Year's Eve.
New Year's Day we always have a pork roast -- tradition -- but neither of the kids will be here this year, and it seems a bit over the top to have a pork roast for just two people. Maybe we'll settle for a pork tenderloin. It must be pork!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:58:43 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, they played the Radetzky and the "Blue Danube" today also. I do remember your fathers version.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:58:50 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
My wife and I sometimes go out with a group of other people but we prefer to go out to dinner by ourselves. Good food, good company, good wine. The children have parties of their own so it works out well.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 02:59:52 (UTC)
Trix:
Have I reminded you lately about my buys on eBay? I am talking about ink cartridges for my printer. Well, I have now been using both the black and colored with excellent results. Bought the black cartridge for $1.80, I think and the colored for $2.80.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:00:21 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, what kind of printer do you have??
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:01:52 (UTC)
Trix:
Quite a romantic there Dr. Jim. Just hope the Volvo will cooperate.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:01:57 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I must try to get the ink cartridges you talk about, Trix. I'm still paying in the low $40 range for black and in the high $40 range for colour - plus 15% tax! At the rate I use them up, it's keeping me poor.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:02:09 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Pork tenderloin with potatoes, red cabbage, or Spaetzele
(?sp). Yum, yum. Why do our minds always wander to food?
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:02:29 (UTC)
Franz:
We will go with friends to a German event with lots of umpha music and dancing.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:02:52 (UTC)
Trix:
I have a Canon but have bought cartridges for friends who have HP printers.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:03:03 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
No, Volvos here. Strictly, Accords. Eddie and Franz are in a Volvo state of mind.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:03:36 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Spätzle for me and potatoes for Ray. . .
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:03:44 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy, I am curious. Is there any reason for the pork? The other thing that I like to make is oyster stew. My husband's birthday is Christmas Day so our children always supply him with lobster, scallops and I see crab too.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:04:55 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Never go out New Year's Eve. . . I'm the original spoilsport.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:05:26 (UTC)
Trix:
You are right, Dr. Jim. It is Mr. Rabuse and his Volvo.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:05:32 (UTC)
Franz:
Trix, pork is strict Gottschee. Was it not our primary meat supply?
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:06:39 (UTC)
Trix:
I am with you Ridy. Thanks for saying it first. Never could handle all the smooching that comes at midnight especially when there was a lot of the liquid stuff around throughout the evening.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:07:32 (UTC)
Franz:
Hey, what's wrong with smooching?
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:08:26 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lolol Trix there is a lot of smooching going on around here, but we have all known each other for 30 years and are good friends.
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:08:42 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Oh my, Trix - that sounds like heaven to me! I'm a real shell fish fan!
I always understood that pork is somehow tied up with fat, and the wish was that you would have enough fat all year long -- I guess if you were poor you didn't have fat? Then again, it's also a good luck charm of sorts -- the little Glückschwein? I'm really not sure about this, but the decree stands: It shall be pork!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:08:53 (UTC)
Trix:
yes, Franz, I think you are right about the pork being our main meat. I get so hungry for a good geselchtes Würstchen. In fact, one year my cousin Gita, still living in Gottschee, sent me a bunch and they made it without any problems. Now, she tells me, the restrictions are very tough.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:09:18 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ok Trix! What is geselchtes Wurstchen???
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:10:39 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Some kind of sausage?
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:10:58 (UTC)
Franz:
Trix, I guess Big Government has caught up with them.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:11:02 (UTC)
Trix:
Marilu: Nothing wrong with smooching. Depends on who it is, I guess. Anyway, that is from a long time ago.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:11:07 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
You're talking about Krainerwurst, Trix. . .had a conversation with an old Gottscheer in Ridgewood about it today. They have a very good Gottscheer butcher over there, and apparently they ship it for you, if you like.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:11:42 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, how is your cable spagetti doing?
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:12:15 (UTC)
Trix:
Yes, Marilu, you've got it. It is homemade sausages that are dried via open air and they are nummy. I slice them very thin and love them with a good bun or rye bread.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:12:24 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Yes, Marilu. That is a new one
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:13:26 (UTC)
Trix:
The sausages that I get are the ones that I simmer for about 30 minutes. I am talking about the real hard, dried one that is ready to be eaten without cooking it. I am thinking Toronto and Chicago, in addition to NY no doubt have them. But I am so far away from any good deli store.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:14:06 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ridgewood is my old neck of the woods.
The spaghetti is still cooking. I am still on hold.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:14:30 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hey, Jim, I'm getting pretty good at decipering huh?
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:14:31 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
At least if it is something short and easy!!
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:16:01 (UTC)
Franz:
Ladies, did you translate Gerhard Samide's greetings aus Amstetten for Jim?
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:17:02 (UTC)
Franz:
Marilu, talent shows.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:17:52 (UTC)
Trix:
Does he need it translated? I think he is pretty sharp on that stuff, aren't you Dr. Jim?
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:18:06 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
yes, Ridy sent it along. however, i could understand it in the original coded format.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:18:25 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Yes, I did, but Jim had already figured it out. It's so nice when people in Europe post messages in the Plauderzimmer! Wish there were more.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:18:38 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I am okay with short paragraphs and sentences especially if I have it in context.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:19:19 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy, how is the food at the table holding up? Are your guests eating you out of house and home?
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:19:21 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, I didnt understand a word of it!! lololol And Ridy, why didnt you send me a translation??
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:19:49 (UTC)
Franz:
Looks like Jim and Marilu can't be fooled any longer.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:20:30 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy, what would you think about posting a German message inviting them to do just that? You never know, the response might surprise us. Would you mind?
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:20:31 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Just teasing you know Ridy.
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:20:47 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, basically Gerhardt said I was a great man and that he was giving me a million dollars to continue with my hobby of looking up Gottscheers around the world!!!! :)
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:21:14 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
The food in the Plauderzimmer is holding up nicely, since everyone is so polite and well mannered. It was another story yesterday, when all the young relatives decided to help with cleaning up by taking all the left-over cookies, cake and Strudel with them! But I was prepared, and had plastic baggies for them.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:21:43 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
WOW!!!! lolololol
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:21:57 (UTC)
Trix:
A reminder. The GHGA has added four new publications to the list available. Check it out. Good work by Kate et al.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:22:00 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, all you need do is start the Gottscheer dialect and then we are both lost.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:22:25 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Marilu - I don't think of you as being helpless. . . .I reserve that for the men. Poor dears.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:23:00 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: The message from Gerhard is most appropriate for a very dedicated, capable and generous man, YOU. You did a great job on the translation. That is exactly the way I read it too. Take a bow!!!
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:23:40 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, you are right, I am lost if it is over a sentence, sometimes of plain German. but it is fun trying to figure it out. What are you doing to do with that Million dollars?? lol
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:23:40 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, from the description, I was tempted to come up myself and get some. However, they could not promise me that I would not get lost in the snows of Buffalo.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:23:48 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Anyone could get lost in the snow in Buffalo! I bet they'll find Santa Claus underneath it all - eventually - maybe in July.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:25:01 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Wow, Trix, I missed the part about the million dollars!! Most of his family tree is solid but there is a branch or two that does not add up.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:25:56 (UTC)
Trix:
Speaking about the Gottscheer dialect though I want to say DANKE to both Franz and Ridy. I always felt I could NOT read it but you two forced me to sound it out, thereby understanding the words and before long I felt pretty comfortable doing it. So, I appreciate it and say a warm DANKE.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:26:28 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, did you get any reaction from your friend concerning the file that I sent you?
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:27:00 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, by the way, do you have another book laying around?
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:27:53 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I have a question from left field--- related to a place name. I have two brothers from Komutzen #7 who emigrated to the United States but their residence is listed as Hochheiden in the Ellis Island ship manifests. Does that name or anything like it ring a bell with anyone?
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:28:27 (UTC)
Trix:
Way to go Franz. By the way Ridy I sent a copy all the way to Germany too. Can't wait for their comments.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:28:47 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, no not yet. I am sure he was occupied over the holidays. Who knows, I might run into him tomorrow night.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:31:13 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz - I assume you mean "Memories of Childhood"? Yes, I have another copy - and there's another order for more copies going in right after the New Year. I think by now it is definitely a bestseller as far away from Kukendorf as Mitterdorf. The City of Gottschee is next. . . .That's when sales reach 500!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:31:30 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, has the response been more than you thought it would be?
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:32:22 (UTC)
Trix:
I am not familiar with Hochheiden. Sounds like an Austrian village to me.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:32:52 (UTC)
Franz:
I never heard of Hochheiden. What was their name?
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:32:58 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Petsche was the surname.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:33:33 (UTC)
Trix:
Do you suppose Helen Petsche could have some information on this matter? I shall gladly ask her if you can give me more specifics.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:34:34 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, when did they leave? I will call one of my sisters tomorrow, maybe she can help. Petsche sounds familiar, except I don't know where to place them.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:35:51 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Jim - I can't find any reference to Hochheiden.
The response to the book has been far more than I hoped it would be. Orders are coming in from people whom neither Arnold nor I know -- in other words, they're not family members, but they identify with our stories. One bonus is that people are recognizing individuals in photographs which I could not identify, and they're sending me the information! It's wonderful!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:36:21 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, the Petsches moved out near the turn of the century with the exception of Magdalena. She married a Kinkoff and that family lived in the house in the 20th century.
Trix, I have nothing else but that name. I could trace the brothers back to Komutzen. This is related to the recent posting that you sent me. I copied you on the file. It should be in your email box.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:38:05 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
We have Petsche's in our family, but they're from Setsch.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:38:46 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, I remember Kinkoffs and if they stayed there till the end I can find out about them.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:39:52 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
The Petsche's in my family are in Bistriz, and we don;t know where they moved there from.
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:40:11 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Just checked my mailbox. Got it. Thank You. Also, I am under the impression that the little bottle is not holy water but rather Slivovitz. I think you mentioned last week that you would like to taste it. The Peter Kosler Gottscheer Verein handed these out during our 1999 Trip to Gottschee. Better taste it. If it's water, let me know and I will send you the real stuff. But it better not be water. The seal (or paper) is the seal of the Kosler Verein.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:41:11 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, from what I can tell, the last Kinkoff was born in 1936. A very good year for births in Gottschee. Some, if not all, of the surviving family members made it over to the US after the war with both Johann Kinkoff and his wife, Magdalena Petsche Kinkoff, being buried in the US.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:43:09 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I thought that Slivovitz and holy water are interchangeable in Gottschee!?
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:43:55 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Slivovitz was my second guess. As long as it is not holy water, I will give it a go. :)
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:44:24 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, I love you and your sense of humor!!!!
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:44:32 (UTC)
Trix:
Yes, indeed 1936 was a very,very good year wasn't it Chicago Franz and Toronto Ridy?
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:44:35 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, no close relationship between the Bistritz and Unterwarmberg Petsches but there may have been one pre-1700.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:45:25 (UTC)
Trix:
God, Ridy, I have to hand it to you and agree with Marilu - YOU HAVE A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR. Well, if Dr. Jim doesn't come back we'll know why.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:45:51 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Yes, indeed, 1936 was a vintage year! Franz - Trix and I were born in February -- what month did you arrive on the planet?
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:46:01 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, I think after tomorrow I will be able to shed some light on it. The one born in 1936, is it Frank?
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:46:14 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Too late for me to be tippling but will have a nip tomorrow on New Year's Eve.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:46:51 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
My shirt-tail cousin Pat Sullivan is trying to track down where the Petsche's moved to Bistriz from, but so far no luck. Joannes Petsche was born about 1789, but we don't know where.
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:47:46 (UTC)
Trix:
So, Dr. Jim how is the computer problem coming along? And how the patience holding out?
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:48:13 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Marilu - I'm always moaning about the fact that I have nothing to drink in the house. . . . well, Santa Claus took care of me! I think the only ones who didn't bring me a bottle of something were my two grandnieces, who haven't reached the age of reason yet! So don't expect anything sensible out of me in a while!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:49:01 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, du bist korrekt.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:49:17 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, I just wanted to mention, I received a Christmas card from my lost cousin in Ridgewood. My uncle past on on Dec. 6. He was in a hospital and some nursing home for the last 5 years. He was 94. I am vrey saddend.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:49:21 (UTC)
Trix:
Oh, Ridy, just keep it coming. Makes for a mogwa heart for this Gottscheer in Minnesota.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:50:03 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
See, Ridy, I own a liquor store so there is no excuse for my cupboard to be empty!!! And I am really upset when they are. lol
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:50:27 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I am still listening to musak. Thank goodness I have it on speaker phone. Otherwise my neck would be aching. At least this way I can converse with an erudite group of individuals in the chat room.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:50:45 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim that was " you are correct" right?
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:51:15 (UTC)
Trix:
Actually, it should be Gottscheerin. Sorry about that. Margaret, if you reading just know that all of us make mistakes and it is o.k.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:51:19 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Dear Franz, sorry to hear about the passing. Sometimes it is best but it still hurts.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:52:00 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, if I am correct then the other silblings were Maria, Santa, Johann, Albin and there might have been a Sophia. They were good friends of ours, I think my sister is still corresponding.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:52:20 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, du bist korrekt.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:52:51 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Trix - do you notice that Franz still hasn't told us the month of his birth? I thought only women are coy about their age!
Franz - do you want me to send you another book tomorrow?
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:53:07 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim: Great word "erudite". Never heard it before, just looked it up and I like it. Good word for an erudite group of Gottscheers.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:53:53 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, you never asked and yes I will be greatful for another book.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:54:29 (UTC)
Trix:
Ja, Franza, nüi schug abak ben Du geborn bischt?
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:55:14 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I believe there were seven initially with one dying as a child. I believe Maria, Santa, Josefa (or Sophie), and Franz may still be alive. They seem to have initially gone to the New York area which is where Magdalena's siblings went to in the early 1900s.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:55:44 (UTC)
Franz:
Trix, ask Jack Benny.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:56:02 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Now you are going to make me get a dictionary out!
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:56:25 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I have never known anyone who avoided that question in so many different ways, Franz. Only a true, blue Austrian could do that!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:57:06 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
July 1936 sounds like a good time for a Mausser to be born.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:57:36 (UTC)
Trix:
So, Franz, you are 39 and holding. Sounds terrific.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:57:46 (UTC)
Franz:
Jes Jim, it must be Ridgewood.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:57:57 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, I think 1944 was a good year! lol
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:58:42 (UTC)
Trix:
See, Dr. Jim. I could have gone to the Umsiedlungs Liste but you beat me to it. Better yet, you thought of I did not. Nice going.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:58:52 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, you can't hide things like that amongst friends. Besides the resettlement records are always there to help out.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:58:57 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Thanks for the info, Jim! That makes me the oldest in this group! So from now on, when I say 'jump' - ask 'how high'!! OK?!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:58:59 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, just ask the ladies, 1936 was an exceptional year.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 03:59:39 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
It is amazing how many Gottscheers were in the neighborhood and I was totally clueless. Now I am only semi-clueless.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:00:01 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
You're still a teenybopper, Marilu! And then there's Jim.. . . just a babe in the woods!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:00:17 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I wish I felt like a teenybopper!!!!
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:01:44 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
A mere sapling even if I do say so myself.
Musak is still playing. I believe this is a test of wills. They think they can get secrets out of me by playing awful music. At least they could play some Temptations.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:01:59 (UTC)
Trix:
That is a very interesting comment Dr. Jim. You see many of us have gone that same route too. For different reasons perhaps but still we missed a lot. But, lets face it we are now making up for lost time. Just look what we have accomplished in a few short years. Remember the old saying Better late than never. I am pleased to have the opportunities to do my part.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:02:16 (UTC)
Franz:
Trix and Ridy, how about you, are you holding at 19?
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:02:19 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
The Temptations? Are they still around? Now you're dating yourself, Jim!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:02:58 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, what is magwa??? I know there was an Indian in the Last of the Mohicans with a similar name.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:03:09 (UTC)
Eddie R.:
Hi folks! It's 11 PM and everyone still on. You must be having a great time tonight.
- 205.188.197.49 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:04:11 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Yes, Ridy, The Tempts are still around. Only one of the original group is still alive. Life on the road and drugs took their toll. They had a nice album out last year and another this year. Nothing like the classics but still good.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:04:43 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Fast Eddie. How are you doing?
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:05:05 (UTC)
Franz:
Jim, now that we have found the Kinkoffs, would you like me to find out about Petsche ?
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:05:15 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I thought magwa was a typing error. Is it a word?
If I were to hold at any age, Franz, 19 would not be it. I liked being 41, and even 45 wasn't bad. But that was more than 20 years ago and my memory of it is fading fast.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:05:31 (UTC)
Trix:
No me. My life has changed tremendously over the last 18 months. Our daughter Amy wrote the following in her Christmas letter: My mother's life has become my father's needs. Parkinsons has definitely taken its toll and we slowly, but steadily moving further in that direction. But, in spite of it all I wouldn't change a thing. The Chat room alone brings much joy and deviation to my routine. A good change in pace but I am definitely feeling the effects of 7/24 caregiving. I am grateful for my positive outlook on life and learning to accept the things you cannot change.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:06:11 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Eddie! Glad you dropped in! Is your guest room free again?
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:06:24 (UTC)
Franz:
Hello Eddie, How in the heck are you? This group suspected your Volvo ran out of gas.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:06:54 (UTC)
Eddie :
Doing fine. Came back from Ridgewood this evening from a 'cousins' party. In fact, parked across the street from the Gottscheer Clubhouse and surprisingly the car was still there an hour later. It's getting to be a tough neighborhood! Every car has a 'club' on the steering wheel!
- 205.188.197.49 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:07:40 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, anything that you can give me on people that you know or knew would be great. Little pieces of information can help out greatly later on. So if you remember families that moved from your area to Germany or Austria or the US, just drop me a note. I have been able to piece the Kinkoff movements using the Ellis Island records, the resettlement records, the family book, and the SSDI. Everything came together nicely.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:07:46 (UTC)
Trix:
Mogwa, according to Amy is happy. Ridy, you and I still have a lot going for us. I am thinking that 60 was a very good time for me. I felt a certain comfort with my self confidence and who I am. That felt and still feels good.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:08:40 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Eddie, I have been back to the area infrequently but it still has a long way to go before it matches growing up in Bushwick. Ridgewood was always the refined neighborhood. I am amazed that you were able to find a parking spot. They are at a premium.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:09:15 (UTC)
Eddie :
Yes, Ridy. My company left and the house is ours -- again!
Franz -- I have never run out of gas -- at least not yet!
- 205.188.197.49 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:09:37 (UTC)
Trix:
Well, Hi Mr. Rabuse. Good to have you with us and glad to hear the Volvo is still moving along.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:10:10 (UTC)
Eddie :
Jim, I read that you acquired one million.Is that dollars or Euros!
- 205.188.197.49 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:11:01 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I ran out of gas on Thanksgiving. A short distance from home and the car just stopped. The warning light malfunctioned and never came on. Thank goodness it wasn't on a major highway.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:11:19 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim, did you really receive that bundle of money? From Gerhard?
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:11:49 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I think it was in Confederate dollars.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:11:53 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Oh, Eddie! You haven't lived until you run out of gas, very early in the morning, while coming back from driving your husband to work in your pyjamas and housecoat, and you get stuck on a busy highway, and you have to get out and flag down a good samaritan! Then you have to tell them you also don't have your wallet with you.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:12:34 (UTC)
Eddie :
Hi Trix. Lobster and Steak for New Years Eve? Doesn't sound like something we ate in Gottschee!
- 205.188.197.49 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:12:49 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
No!!!!!!!! I was putting Marilu on. If I had gotten that money, you could have called me "Retired Dr. Jim" and started to look for me in Polynesia along with our missing chat room friend.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:13:22 (UTC)
Franz:
Well Jim, that makes two of us. To me it happened on Interstate 70 in the Colorado Mountains. Believe me my dearest will never let me forget it.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:13:40 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
See now Trix, I knew Jim was putting me on!
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:14:13 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Linda took it well but I think that is because the light malfunctioned. Had the light been red, I would not have been so lucky.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:14:52 (UTC)
Trix:
You are so right, that is not anything we ate but I am making up for lost time. It took me years before I developed the taste for lobster and once I got hooked that was it. Made the mistake of begging our 3 kids, when they were very young, "Oh, come on, just try a bite." BIG MISTAKE. They all got hooked on it too. Now I tell my grandchildren you don't want that stuff. You won't like it.
Ridy, your story about running out of gas is the highlight for 2001. Funny, funny, funny and it can only happenn to Ridy.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:15:34 (UTC)
Eddie :
Franze. How the weather in Chicago -- any snow yet?
- 152.163.213.192 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:16:13 (UTC)
Franz:
Eddie, only a light dust, however Trix and Ridy finally pushed that frigid air south.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:17:35 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I might be north of the border, Franz, but I'm south of you! (I think)
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:18:56 (UTC)
Eddie :
They certainly did. It's about 26F and breezy. Not used to the cold anymore. But it feels good, like Winter should!
- 152.163.213.192 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:19:16 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
My cousin told me that when it's a light dusting of snow the midwesterners call it 'a skiff of snow'. Anyone heard that expression before?
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:20:19 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, what the heck, everyplace in Ca is north.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:20:32 (UTC)
Franz:
Ridy, where in midwest?
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:21:22 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yep, we call it a skiff here too, or at least I do from growing up in Minnesota.
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:21:57 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Tsk, tsk ---- Canada is north and that is just that. So there, I agree with Franz reality not withstanding.
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:22:31 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Spoken like a true Amurrican, Franz!
Eddie - I was getting a real sales pitch from the Ottawa contingent of our family yesterday. Winterlude is THE place to be in February, they tell me.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:23:07 (UTC)
Eddie :
I'll be there, Ridy. Stefie finally got her vaild Passport in the mail this week so we're all set. See you there!!!
- 152.163.213.192 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:24:59 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Ok, OK! I'm outnumbered and I agree with you -- reality notwithstanding.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:25:19 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Where is Winterlude?
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:26:11 (UTC)
Eddie :
And if anyone else in the PZ would like to join us, you are more than welcome. We'll have a great time!!
- 152.163.213.192 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:26:18 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hey - that didn't take long for it to come, Eddie. Maybe I should apply for mine - just in case I want to escape this arctic air this winter at some point.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:27:27 (UTC)
Franz:
Well friends, I wish you all a Happy and Healthy New Year. I've got to go to bed, I have to sell all those leftover Volvos tomorrow. Hope to see you next sunday. Guetei Nocht.
- 64.156.104.208 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:27:51 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Winterlude is in Ottawa.
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:28:02 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Goodnight Franz, Happy New Year!
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:28:47 (UTC)
Eddie :
Gutei Nocht, Fronz! Same good wishes to you also!
- 152.163.213.192 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:29:35 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I can't believe it's almost 11:30! It's been great fun tonight! Gütei Nocht
and a Healthy, Happy, Prosperous and Peaceful New Year to all of you. Thanks for your friendship!
- 64.229.232.60 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:29:43 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, the same to you and everyone else, also!
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:30:56 (UTC)
Eddie :
Marilu, I just sent you the website for Winterlude.
Hav a wonderful New Year -- all of you! Goodnight
- 152.163.213.192 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:33:04 (UTC)
Trix:
I agree. May 2002 be a marvelous year for each of you. Look forward to reflecting back a year from today. God Bless and think happy thoughts.
- 209.240.245.142 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:33:18 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Good night. the musak has stopped
- 64.12.105.178 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:34:18 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Gutei Nocht everyone!
- 198.81.16.43 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 04:36:52 (UTC)
fridl:
Prossit neues jahr.und ein ghesuntes 2001 from friedl NY RUSSBACH BY MOCHNITZEN
- 64.12.106.42 - Monday, December 31, 2001 at 23:52:10 (UTC)
FRIEDL:
CORRECTION 2002
- 205.188.192.176 - Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 01:23:38 (UTC)
Sophia:
Grüß Dich Friedl. Auch wir wünschen Dir ein Prosit 2002. Eine Gottscheerin von der Nähe Tschermoschnitz. (Bin sehr bekannt mit Russbach in der Moschnitze).
- 216.251.169.15 - Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 03:23:43 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Die besten Wünsche für 2002 an alle Plauderzimmer Zuhörer und Mitmacher!
Happy New Year to all the active and silent participants in the Plauderzimmer.
A big THANK YOU to Helmuth Kump for making it available to us all year long, year after year. "For he's a jolly good fellow!"
- 64.229.232.235 - Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 14:12:01 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
"HAPPY NEW YEAR", "EIN GLUECKLICHES NEUES JAHR" "OLLES GUETA UEND WIL GLIK MIT GESCHUENDHEIT ZAN NEIEN JUAR" to all Gottscheers near and far.
- 67.25.192.87 - Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 16:25:49 (UTC)
Minnesota:
Ridy and Franz: Thank You for your greetings and good wishes. I join you in wishing everyone a very good New Year.
- 209.240.245.78 - Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 21:05:25 (UTC)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
We don't know a lick of German, but best wishes for the New Year to everyone in the Plauderzimmer!
- 209.151.190.203 - Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 03:39:32 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
And I thought I was the only one here that did not know German! Now I don't feel so bad. lol Happy New Year!
- 198.81.16.41 - Thursday, January 03, 2002 at 04:27:28 (UTC)
Helmuth:
Thanks for the good wishes Ridy, and I echo the sentiments for a Happy New Year to Gottscheers everywhere. Hard to believe, 2002 begins the eighth year of this site. Marilu: I profess to know German but reading and writing it is harder than speaking and hearing it.
- 170.201.180.38 - Friday, January 04, 2002 at 18:30:43 (UTC)
Helmuth:
If any of you wish to see my family holiday greeting, here it is.
- 170.201.180.38 - Friday, January 04, 2002 at 18:34:57 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Lets all be glad the Chiefs' football season ended today. They can rest. 3 of our guys will be in the Pro Bowl in Hawaii. Snowing in KCMO
- 63.252.221.63 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:06:46 (UTC)
Trix:
Grüß Dich Margaret. Wie geht es Dir? Ich hoffe es geht Dir gut. Greetings Margaret. How is it going with you? I hope well. I say the same about the Vikings. End of the story. Sunshine in Minnesota. It has been very nice. No reason for me to even think about complaining.
- 209.240.237.172 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:17:18 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello Trix and Margaret...beautiful sunshiny day in Colorado also. We had a little snow Friday night, but lots of it melted yesterday and today.
- 198.81.16.41 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:19:29 (UTC)
Trix:
Marilu, when we were in Denver Marie Stampfel made a presentation on the Gottscheers in Colorado. Do you recall what area she covered?
- 209.240.237.172 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:21:39 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, It was her parents, and they started out here near Canon City and moved to Rico Co.
- 198.81.16.41 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:22:27 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Did you not get a copy of their papers?
- 198.81.16.41 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:22:45 (UTC)
pat stonish warning:
hope everyones new year was nice, snowing like crazy here in pa. could really get dumped on. hope not......
- 204.186.25.76 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:27:13 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Where did everyone go?????
- 198.81.16.41 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:31:35 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
I'm still here, but not for long. Laundry and some other odds and ends are calling.
- 63.252.221.63 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:34:37 (UTC)
Trix:
I wonder if I did get a copy of their report. Will need to check the file. I had to make a phone call to Florida before they go to bed. I am back. Boy, quiet tonight, at least so far.
Pat, greetings and welcome. Just want you to know I sent the white stuff your way. But, I also said don't give them more than they can handle. How are you?
- 209.240.237.172 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:35:03 (UTC)
Trix:
Margaret, you know, of course, that your laundry will still be there in the morning. At least that is how it is here at Waukenabo. I keep hoping for the new invention when I will be able to say to a machine: Please do the laundry, or please clean the house. Wouldn't that be something? Never thought I would hear myself say that I would enjoy it. Work never quits, does it?
- 209.240.237.172 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:36:56 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, if you cant find your copy, let me know and I will email you a copy of mine.
- 198.81.16.41 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:37:26 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Eagerly awaiting the translation of the 1937 letter from my oma to Pete Yonke's oma. Will share with you and anyone else who might be interested.
- 63.252.221.63 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:42:17 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Must log off. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund. Alles gute.
- 63.252.221.63 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:43:33 (UTC)
Bill Gregory:
Good evening everyone. Does anyone know of a good Gottscheer cookbook? I have heard of one by Mr. Belay but do not know where to buy one. My late mother in law was an excellent cook but she didn't even have a cookbook as far as my wife knows.
- 12.92.21.35 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:43:46 (UTC)
pat stonish warning:
So it was you trix who gave the orders for the white stuff to make its presence, at least you put a limit on it, ha ha, but think it's making a swift turn around and headed, oops i better not say, i'm o.k.
- 204.186.25.76 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:45:12 (UTC)
Ridy:
Hi everybody!
Please feel free to keep all your white stuff. It's raining in Toronto and you don't have to shovel that!
- 64.229.237.180 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:45:27 (UTC)
pat stonish warning:
i might have to shovel, maybe you'll have to bale it out, ha!ha!
- 204.186.25.76 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:47:02 (UTC)
Ridy:
Hi Pat ~
Are you related to Elfriede?
- 64.229.237.180 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:51:07 (UTC)
pat stonish warning:
Hi Ridy, name doesn't sound familiar to me, but then again u never know.
- 204.186.25.76 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:53:45 (UTC)
pat stonish warning:
Hi Ridy, name doesn't sound familiar to me, but then again u never know.
- 204.186.25.76 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:54:05 (UTC)
pat stonish warning:
oops pressed one to many times.....
- 204.186.25.76 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:54:29 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi Bill Gregory. Let me go to my file and get the address for Albert Belay in Middle Village. It is a marvelous cookbook and I use it all the time. Will check on it right now.
- 209.240.237.172 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:58:22 (UTC)
pat stonish warning:
going to say goodnight, everyone have a great week,
- 204.186.25.76 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 02:59:28 (UTC)
Ridy:
Actually, Pat, I just realized that it's spelled slightly differently. But probably the same roots.
- 64.229.237.180 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:00:17 (UTC)
Ridy:
'Bye, Pat. . .
Guess everyone didn't survive the holidays after all - it's awfully light tonight.
- 64.229.237.180 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:01:10 (UTC)
Trix:
Bill, here it is: Albert Belay, 63-05 70 Street Middle Village NY 11379. Cost $10.00 plus $3.00 S & H for 1 or $4.00 for 2 or 3 books. Do it. You won't regret it.Name of the Book: Hoimischai Khöscht.
- 209.240.237.172 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:01:24 (UTC)
Trix:
Well Toronto Ridy. Hope you have had an exciting day and evening. I just got off the phone and am a little agitated. No doubt will settle down. So, it is raining in Toronto? We have been lucky and watching the news tonight saw the awful weather in Europe. Imagine Venice freezing.
- 209.240.237.172 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:03:36 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Ridy
- 198.81.16.41 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:03:56 (UTC)
Ridy:
And the airport closed in Athens . . . .we keep wondering why we have it so good, but don't tell anybody, we don't want everybody to move here!
- 64.229.237.180 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:04:37 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy, one more note. Received a letter from my cousin on Friday. She LOVES the book and LOVES the photos. She resettled too so walked the walk with you through the pages.
- 209.240.237.172 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:04:50 (UTC)
Ridy:
Hi Marilu!
I was just visualizing the Grand Canal in Venice being used as a skating rink. Now that would be newsworthy!
- 64.229.237.180 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:05:20 (UTC)
Trix:
Soeaking about Venice. I spent the Ausflug in 1950 there with my class from nearby Ledenitzen in Kärnten. We stayed in a Kloster (convent) for 2 or 3 nights. I have never seen so many pidgens doing their thing as at St. Markus Square, I think is the name. But a beautiful city with very dirty water though.
- 209.240.237.172 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:07:21 (UTC)
Bill Gregory:
Thanks for the information, Trix. I'll get an order for the cookbook in the mail tomorrow. If it is in Gottscheerisch I'll just use my copy of Martha Hutter's book to translate!
Thanks again.
- 12.92.21.35 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:07:33 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
That is hard to visiualize. But then I have never been there!
- 198.81.16.41 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:07:53 (UTC)
Trix:
No, it is English too. You won't have to spend ours translating, you can spend them cooking instead. Oh, oh, here we go to food again. Darn it anyway. Sorry.
- 209.240.237.172 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:08:37 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lolol Seems that is where we always end up!
- 198.81.16.41 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:09:17 (UTC)
Ridy:
Trix - I just sent you a photo of moi surrounded by pigeons in St. Mark's --
- 64.229.237.180 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:11:57 (UTC)
Ridy:
Marilu - I've sworn off cooking for the entire month of January. So far there have been no complaints.
- 64.229.237.180 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:12:42 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, I don't cook any more than I have too!!! I usually get by with once or twice a week. My husband is working swing shift, and he is not here 5 nights out of the week. Sometimes, I am nice a cook brunch for him. But he knows how to cook a few things, so he does not starve!! And by his profile, you know he is not starving!! lolol
- 198.81.16.41 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:15:09 (UTC)
Ridy:
Trix - where does your cousin live?
- 64.229.237.180 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:19:02 (UTC)
Ridy:
Gute Nacht, alle miteinander. I think we're all tired. Maybe we can send out a memo next week to remind everyone to show up!
- 64.229.237.180 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:23:13 (UTC)
Trix:
I am back. She lives in Deutschland. Love the photo. So that is you feeding and loving the birds.
- 209.240.237.172 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:23:16 (UTC)
Trix:
Good idea to call it a night. Everyone have a good week and think happy thoughts no matter what.
- 209.240.237.172 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:23:58 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night everyone.
- 198.81.16.41 - Monday, January 07, 2002 at 03:25:28 (UTC)
John:
can anyone give me some information on Luggau Lesachtal valley possible pilgrim route?
- 195.93.50.163 - Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 21:44:33 (UTC)
:
John: I can tell you that it is among the most beautiful spots in the world, probably in Northern Italy. I would suggest you go to your search engine, type in Luggau Lesachtal and you find numerous sites. Good luck.
- 216.251.169.4 - Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 23:45:35 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
To Trix: Was going thru some old messages (Plauderzimmer) from Nov. To answer your question, no I am not a Gottscheer, not by birth anyway,, but i am Gottschee by marraige! My wife of almost sixty years is an American born Gottscheer...She is Adeline Jaklitsch, whose father came from Verderb..I love the family, and enjoy every second when we are together..My Gottscheer family consists of Jaklitsch,Kren, Rabuse, Staudacher, Kump, and on and on..Unfortunately some of them are no longer with us, but I will miss and remember them forever...Best Wishes, Paul
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 01:15:15 (UTC)
Trix:
What a nice message Paul. THANK YOU SO MUCH. The Gottscheers are indeed lucky to have you too. How is everything going?
- 216.251.169.4 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 01:49:34 (UTC)
Paul BRASINO:
thank You Trix,All is well..Will come back later...Just got some unexpected visitors from out of state..SOME OTHER NAMES i SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED=SIDER. HUTTER, SIGMUND,KOBETITSCH AND MANY MORE ALL FROM RIDGEWOOD AND GLENDALE AND HAWLEY,,SEE YOU LATER
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:02:32 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Wie geht es Alles? Mir geht es gut. Now English. Got an envelope of family items from my brother, Louis. It includes a couple of things that I have photo copied and am sending to Trix for translation. Nice here in KC. Turning colder or normal tomorrow.
- 64.197.199.181 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:07:39 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
I have some cousins last name - Kreidemacher. Does anyone know if the name really means "chalk maker" as I have heard? My mother's parents came from Bavaria.
- 64.197.199.181 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:10:52 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi Margaret: From where in Bavaria did your grandparents come from? You know, of course, that it is some of the most beautiful spot in the world. I love going there. Yes, I could live with the translation of chalk maker. Ever been to Bayern? You would love it.
- 216.251.169.4 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:25:53 (UTC)
Ridy:
Hi Margaret!
You're absolutely right -- 'Kreide' is the German word for chalk and 'macher' translates to 'maker'. Pretty straight-forward.
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:26:18 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi Toronto Ridy. How are?
- 216.251.169.4 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:26:55 (UTC)
Ridy:
Actually, Trix, to be absolutely correct, you should call me 'Scarberia Ridy' since we live in the borough of Scarborough, which is the eastern part of the Toronto. . . .but I prefer just Ridy. We call it Scarberia because there's nothing interesting here. . . .
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:29:13 (UTC)
Ridy:
Hey, I'm glad to see the President survived the pretzel attack! Not that it's funny, I know. It just sounds funny.
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:30:42 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: I don't know exactly where my grandparents came from in Bavaria, but the German letter I am sending you may give you the name. Am so curious about this particular letter.
- 63.252.223.153 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:32:55 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone
Margaret my Neppl ancestors are from Bavaria.
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:35:55 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Actually so are my Semmler ancestors. Both from the Southeastern part of Bavaria.
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:36:47 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Marilou: My grossmutter used to call my brother "lansman" or something like that. Now my
Gottscheer grandmother was oma. Maybe our grandparents knew one another. My grandfather was a brewmaster.
- 63.252.223.153 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:37:31 (UTC)
Trix:
Ok Marilu, do you know the village. Southeastern Bavaria would border on Austria and beautiful as well. So let me be fair, how are you?
- 216.251.169.4 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:38:24 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Is there a place in Bavaria called Rodheim or something like that. The name sounds familiar. That may be their birthplace.
- 63.252.223.153 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:38:44 (UTC)
Trix:
I am OMA too.
- 216.251.169.4 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:39:00 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Margaret anything is possible as I am always finding out when it comes to ancestors. If you found out the name of the town let me know. I know where mine came from.
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:39:46 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Hi Trix, hi All, Vie gietz?
- 67.211.10.33 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:40:05 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix. I am doing just fine! Thanks. And you?
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:40:40 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Ron: I have lots of STalzer cousins. Viktor STalzer in Queens is a relative of some of them. Werner, Eduard, Ilse, Helmut--all Stalzers.
- 63.252.223.153 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:41:10 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Marilu: Does the name "Lechner" ring a bell? My mom's maiden name.
- 63.252.223.153 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:42:21 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Yes, Stalzer is a common Gottscheer name. My family comes from Drandul, Tschermoschnitz, Gottshee
- 67.211.10.33 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:42:42 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ron, there were some Stalzers in Nebraska around 1900. Were they any relation to your family?
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:42:49 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
No, Margaret that name is not familiar to me.
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:43:24 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Margaret: unfortunately, none returned after the resettlement.
- 67.211.10.33 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:43:48 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Ron: My father's family came from Kumerdorf. My oma was born in Lichtenbach.
- 63.252.223.153 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:43:50 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Marilu: Well, maybe, I don't know a lot of my relatives, because my grandfather left Austria in 1920. He did keep in touch with other Gotscheers thru the Cleveland Gotscheer Club til his death in 1960.
- 67.211.10.33 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:45:36 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Ron: I have some cousins who were very young during the resettlement, but they don't like to discuss it. They got to the US late 40's or early 50's.
- 63.252.223.153 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:45:52 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi neighbor Ron Stalzer. Great name, you know. Yup, I lived right up the hill from where your family comes from - Drandul. In fact we were in Drandul in June of 1999 and participated in the beautiful mass and dedication of the renovated chapel there. Ron, ever been there? Any plans?
- 216.251.169.4 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:46:16 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Margaret: my oma was born in Graflinden a Loretitisch
- 67.211.10.33 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:47:16 (UTC)
Trix:
Ron, did you ever find out if you were related to the Stalzer in Reuter (the next village right down the hill from Drandul? How is your dad?
- 216.251.169.4 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:48:11 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Trix: Yup the name is familiar to you... Anyway I've seen the photos of the new chapel and the Church at Tschermoschnitz on the Gottscheer Geneoloy pages.
- 67.211.10.33 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:48:58 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Trix: No haven't found out about that. My Dad's doing pretty well. He is still adjusting to his new heart medication, but other than that is fine.
- 67.211.10.33 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:50:43 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Must log off Auf Wiedersehen. Alles gut. Bleib gesund.
- 63.252.223.153 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:50:54 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Margaret: My oma's name was Margaret too.
- 67.211.10.33 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:51:52 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Gutten abend, Margaret
- 67.211.10.33 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:52:40 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Marilu: The Stalzer in Nebraska,what village were they from, Unterwersch?
- 67.211.10.33 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:54:46 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ron, I have not found out for sure yet what village they were from. But I think it may have been somewhere in the Tschernembl parish.
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:56:23 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
Well, I have to sign off also, Auf Wiedersehen
- 67.211.10.33 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:56:29 (UTC)
Ron Stalzer:
OH, I ask because I'm trying to find out when Stalzers came to Drandul. I only could find records back to my great grandfather Andreas. Anyway, Guten Nacht.
- 67.211.10.33 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:58:07 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, Trix and Ridy are we still here or hanging it up for the night also.
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:03:43 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening to one and all. Bavarians on my father's side as well. Kleinwallstadt to be exact for the Kutger branch of the tree.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:04:04 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well Hello Jim Where in Bavaria
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:05:25 (UTC)
Ridy:
Yes - I'm still here. I just got back. What did I miss?
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:05:43 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Kleinwallstadt is the name of the small town. The name itself means Small walled city.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:06:29 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
My Neppl's from the area around Unterried, which is close Vichtech.
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:07:46 (UTC)
Ridy:
Have only been in he Nürnberg - München area in Bavaria, but loved it.
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:08:05 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
As with Gottschee, have never been to Bavaria either. But soon ----
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:09:49 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
One of these years, I am going to all the places my ancestors were from!
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:10:43 (UTC)
Ridy:
Did I tell you that a number of my younger cousins, born after we left Gottschee, plan to visit it this August. They're calling themselves the GLO -- Gottschee Liberation Organization! They're a riot! You should be glad, Marilu - they usually go to Colorado! En masse.
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:13:45 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
How has everyone's week been? Been a busy one but a good one. I will be going to Hawley in early February for a cold weather minivacation. I don't ski and Linda can't since the accident but I think it will be a good time. Maybe I will Gottscheer visit to some of the Hawley tribe.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:13:52 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, remember to tell them that they may need some armor if they go into the woods. The bears may not take to being liberated.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:14:44 (UTC)
Ridy:
I think the bears will be safe. I don't think their courage extends to doing battle with anything larger than a field mouse!
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:15:30 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, Ridy the next time they come to Colorado, I would like to meet them!
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:15:39 (UTC)
Ridy:
I'll pass that along to them, Marilu. Actually, come to think of it, some of them may be coming up your way during what we call March break from school. . . . they all ski.
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:17:07 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Has anyone been accessing the EllisIsland site recently. It has been so slow. Trying to look up an entry that I ran across that reads Johann Koing from Krophlein. I believe it to mean Johann Koenig from Krapflern. The transcribers that made up the Ellis Island site made quite a few beauts.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:17:24 (UTC)
Ridy:
I've given up on that, Jim. Besides, when I have a question, you answer it. I guess that's the lazy way out!
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:18:43 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, I have not been to the Ellis Island site for awhile. Gave up on finding my one Peschel and one Plautz I cannot find there.
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:18:50 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I can't take it anymore --------- who will be the first to mention food or wine. Remember that we really don't want to do it but are only doing it to try and draw out Chicago Franz.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:18:56 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, you are a smart woman. Always thought so. Only kidding about the food and wine.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:19:45 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, Jim, you win the prize..lolol
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:20:19 (UTC)
Ridy:
I decided today that I make the best Macaroni and Cheese! That's what a felt like - good, stick-to-the-ribs comfort food. When I told my sister, she came back with -- but it's not even Friday! Guess Ray felt that way too because he passed on it.
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:20:36 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Macaroni and Cheese is one my husband's and grandkid's favorite foods, and one of my least favorite. I usually pass on it too, even when I make it for everyone else.
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:22:00 (UTC)
Ridy:
I guess Jim decided to pass on it too! Feinschmecker that he is!
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:23:52 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I'll take some. I am quite omniverous and will eat almost anything short of liver.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:26:34 (UTC)
Ridy:
OK, OK -- so I won't mention Macaroni and Cheese anymore!
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:26:57 (UTC)
Ridy:
If you don't like liver, Jim, you just haven't tasted Chrüterleberli at the Mövenpick restaurant in Toronto. Yummmm!
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:28:31 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ok, that means something like choice taste, but what is the correct translation.
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:29:11 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I am assuming that Feinschmecker is something along the lines of having gourmet tastes but I can't tell if there is a sarcastic tinge to its general use. I am sure that Ridy was using it with her tongue firmly embedded in her cheek.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:29:39 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
But Jim, liver and onions is delicious! with stewed tomatoes with toast in it.
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:30:10 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I like macaroni and cheese. I used to liven it up with some eggs and tuna to make a casserole type dish.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:30:35 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
And Ridy, you are correct in assuming that I have not been to that restaurant in Toronto.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:31:16 (UTC)
Ridy:
You got the meaning correctly, Jim --
Is that the word you meant, Marilu?
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:32:08 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes Ridy that was the word.
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:33:04 (UTC)
Ridy:
The Mövenpick is originally a Swiss chain, now owned by a German company, but they've kept most of the original recipes. It was alway a treat to eat there when we lived in Zürich. Not terribly expensive, but always good.
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:33:53 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Growing up in Brooklyn has given me a fine appreciation of all types of food ranging from a White Castle square hamburger to Pizza Hut pizza.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:34:39 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
If we make it to Toronto, we will try out the restaurant. Linda loves a good slab of liver.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:35:30 (UTC)
Ridy:
Hey! I can remember when McDonald's first came on the scene! There used to be a sign on the road into Ann Arbor which proclaimed "almost 1,000,000 hamburgers sold nation-wide!" Surely they had a McDonald's in Brooklyn?!
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:37:02 (UTC)
Ridy:
We're really going upscale today, aren't we. Hamburgers, liver, Mac and Cheese -- no wonder Trix has disappeared and Franz is in hiding!
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:38:49 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Many Golden Arches in the old hometown. Ridy, I read your comments about the response to the book and found it very interesting. I think your take on the responses has been very understandable. Those who lived through it have some knowledge of the customs but remember both the customs as well as the trials during and after the war. For those who were born after or had emigrated earlier, the book is historical but also cultural.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:40:32 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, I can't say I blame them! lol
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:42:22 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Okay, okay ---- I had a lobster bisque tonight as an appetizer with a nice Italian white wine followed by a filet mignon with carmelize onions, mashed potatoes, acorn squash and fresh vegetables. This was accompanied by a red Spanish rioja wine. Dessert was a cappucino mousse with whipped cream and decaf cappuchino.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:42:51 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Is that better? I could not hide the truth anymore. Perhaps that will bring them back.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:43:31 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Now are you making me jealous. Pizza was on our menu tonite! And did you cook this at home or eat out!
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:44:37 (UTC)
Ridy:
The responses to the book are giving me an insight into what people appreciate about the book. It is simply wonderful to see the orders still coming in. The printer and I both appreciate it, as does Arnold, of course!
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:46:06 (UTC)
Trix:
BINGO! Just returned from a 30 minute telephone oral history interview with a lady and what do I find? Excellent food. You guys!
- 216.251.169.4 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:46:18 (UTC)
Ridy:
cappucino mousse with whipped cream . . . .I could go for that! Who can afford the lobster?
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:48:36 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, your book was wonderful and I am not surprised at the wonderful reception to it. Do you know there is a writeup about it in the latest Gottschee Tree?
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:48:55 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi Dr. Jim. Wow, does that sound like a great meal! Good for you to go and enjoy a wonderful evening out.
Ridy, you know, of course, that you will have to write another book just to share the memories that people are writing about. No doubt about it, to many people the word Umsiedlung is just a word. Unless they have walked the walk they don't have a clue what it was like. The lady I just talked to said: There was so much confusion, so much going on, so much fear, so tragic.
- 216.251.169.4 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:50:09 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Out to dinner of course. Linda's birthday is Tuesday but she has a meeting in school so we went out tonight instead.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:51:07 (UTC)
Ridy:
Sorry - telephone call -
Yes, Marilu - it was lovely to see both our books reviewed in The Gottschee Tree. We may just make it onto the Bestseller list yet - somewhere.
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:55:34 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Oh, I think you are already on the Gottschee Best Seller list!
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:56:29 (UTC)
Ridy:
I'm getting a lot of grief from my relatives in Europe over the fact that it's in English only. I told them if they want it in German, they'll have to do the translation themselves. I'm sure there are more Gottscheers over here than there are in Germany and Austria. Thank goodness they all know English.
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:58:30 (UTC)
Trix:
Well nice people, time for me to go. I am beat. Have a wonderful week everyone and think happy thoughts.
- 216.251.169.4 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:58:38 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, even though I try to get into the Zeitgeist, it is impossible to really understand the events or the feelings. I just try to put it into several perspectives and cover the "story" from different angles. Sort of a historical Kurosawa movie--- everybody's truth is a little different.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:59:08 (UTC)
Ridy:
I'm right behind you, Trix. Date with my dentist downtown tomorrow morning. I'll need all the rest I can get.
Gute Nacht, alle miteinander!
- 64.229.238.41 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 03:59:46 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Trix. Will get that one tree off before I go night-night.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 04:00:12 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Good night, Ridy. Again, job well done.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 04:00:41 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Have a good evening and a good week. Marilu, pizza would have been fine as well. I am one easy dude to feed.
- 152.163.194.196 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 04:01:23 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Goodnight everyone!
- 198.81.16.163 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 04:02:51 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Ny visitors just left..anyone want to talk about any of the Gottscheers I mentioned earlier,please do so,,Sorry I had to miss tonite,,Sleep tight..gutte nacht to all
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 05:22:58 (UTC)
Trix:
I have been asked the following: When couples married in Gotschee was there always a civil and religious ceremony?
- 209.240.245.89 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 00:26:50 (UTC)
Ridy:
I've never heard of a civil ceremony in Gottschee,only religious. The civil ceremony was started in Untersteiermark - it took place at the Standesamt - but Untersteiermark wasn't Gottschee, of course.
I have no idea if I'm right about this - just never gave it any thought.
- 64.229.233.165 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 01:39:56 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Happy weekend to everyone. Having the first snow of some signifigance here in Bethpage,L.I., N.Y. Guess that's not saying much, considering those of you in Canada , Minnesota , and the North West.
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 01:43:10 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Hi Nettie and Richie...Do you want us to send you some of the white stuff we are getting here? We'll trade you for some sunshine and warmth..Lorraine says that Boynton Beach is not so hot just now either.. Regards, Adie & Paul
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 01:47:48 (UTC)
Ridy:
Hi Paul!
All the snow we were supposed to get got dumped on Buffalo! We haven't had enough in Toronto to cover the grass.
- 64.229.233.165 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 02:48:38 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Hi Ridy: Are you disapointed about that? Adie and I used to love the snow, along with our kids.I used to volunteer shoveling for everyone..But, when we entered the air freight trucking business back in 1970 that love for the snow changed drastically..
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 02:55:33 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
How about you Sophia? Have enough snowup your way?
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 02:57:51 (UTC)
Ridy:
I'm not disappointed about our lack of snow! The only time I really enjoyed snow was when I used to ski. That was so long ago I can barely remember it!
- 64.229.233.165 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 03:02:31 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Hi Lorraine & Frank: Don't know if you are connected with the PLADERZIMMER YET..i WILL e-mAIL YOU AND TELL YOU HOW TO GET ON AGAIN..lOVE YA', uNCLE pAUL
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 03:10:15 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
something I never had the opportunity to try. My nephew Johnny Rabuse and his entire family ski,,I wa asked to come along many times, but the business always kept me too busy..Maybe deep down I was really too chicken to try..But I did ice skate, and loved it..
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 03:23:47 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
HeyRichie: Do you remember when Louie broke his wrist when he slippeddown the stoop on the ice? Just came to mind now, talking about snow and all.. I was just a kid then, but I remember how it used to hurt him when the weather changed..Little did i know that someday I would experience the same kind of pains.
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 03:31:13 (UTC)
pat stonish warning:
Well PA got dumped on again, just about had enough of this white stuff..............
- 204.186.36.202 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 12:03:01 (UTC)
Sophia:
Hi Everyone. Way to go - keep chatting away and communicating. I maintain it is the best word in the dictionary - communicating. By doing it we can sole any problem we have.
I am with Ridy, Paul, we barely have enough snow to cover the ground. But, it has been cold enough for the fishermen to enjoy ice fishing.
Question for everyone checking the Plauderzimmer. What are some of the Gottscheer myths, stories etc. that have been shared through the generations which need to be recorded and preserved? PLEASE put your thinking caps on. Ask your friends, your family members. There must have been many and I am assuming that some would have been religious, i.e. the Krampus, St. Nicholaus, Stations of the Cross on your knees; sprinkling the house and barn with holy water to keep out illness and bad happenings etc.
Will appreciate your contributions and discussion. Have a good Sunday everyone and talk to you tonight.
Paul, agree, a little Florida sunshine would be most welcomed at the Wyants of Waukenabo, as would be their fresh fruit.
- 209.240.237.144 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 16:34:14 (UTC)
Pat Stonish Warning:
Did a little research, came up with.....The Slovenian Myth about the Devil as the Shepherd of Dormice...Among the rural population in 17th, 18th and 19th centuries a myth about the devil represented by the dormouse shepherd was wide spread. The Devil, the dormouse shepherd, clicked, whistled and made a hullabaloo while chasing dormice through the woods....
- 204.186.36.133 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 17:13:03 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Sophia: One of the stories I used to hear my good old father-in-law Johann Jaklitsch tell was about an old Gottscheer woman who had a cure for almost everything, It was several bottles on a shelf with liquid in them of several different colors. All the bottles had a big turkey feather in it, You would tell her what ailed you and she would carefully pickafeather out of a chosen bottle and swab your throat. Voila! Almost instant cure!
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 17:35:08 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
And how about this one: A woman in Verdrang had an ill baby and promised GOD that she would walk up to the church(which I Understand was away up on a hill) on her knees if he gave her back her good health,God did, and she did walk all the way to church on her knees-does anyone from that area remember this wonderful tale?
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 17:43:38 (UTC)
pat stonish warning:
True story told to me by my father that my grandmother while living in honegg, gottschee krain, one night looked outside upon a heavy mist. She saw this womam approaching. There was a knock on the door. My grandmother opened the door, the woman just stood there and stared at my ill uncle laying in the bed and said nothing. Minutes after the woman left sad to say my uncle past away. My grandmother rushed to the door the woman and the mist just disappeared...This story always gave me the willies when my father use to tell it to me..............
- 204.186.36.152 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 20:20:04 (UTC)
pat stonish warning:
True story told to me by my father that my grandmother while living in honegg, gottschee krain, one night looked outside upon a heavy mist. She saw this womam approaching. There was a knock on the door. My grandmother opened the door, the woman just stood there and stared at my ill uncle laying in the bed and said nothing. Minutes after the woman left sad to say my uncle past away. My grandmother rushed to the door the woman and the mist just disappeared...This story always gave me the willies when my father use to tell it to me..............
- 204.186.36.152 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 20:20:55 (UTC)
pat stonish warning:
sorry about the double, too fast with the keys, ha ha
- 204.186.36.152 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 20:21:41 (UTC)
Sophia:
THANK YOU, Pat and Paul. Truly appreciate your contributions about Gottscheer myths. I have heard similar stories and know that the Gottscheer were driven by a deep faith. Look forward to hearing many more stories and traditions. Keep thinking and keep sharing. Appreciate it.
- 209.240.245.148 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 22:06:18 (UTC)
pat stonish warning:
Trix, your quite welcome, this is so very interesting to me.
- 204.186.36.80 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 22:40:33 (UTC)
pat stonish warning:
Trix, where are you that you have barely any snow? I'll freeze mine and save it for you. Ha Ha
- 204.186.36.80 - Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 22:46:11 (UTC)
Trix:
Just imagine Pat. I am in Minnesota where this is very unusual. January is usually a very miserable month with very, very cold temperatures. This year, so far, we have been spared and I am grateful.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 00:37:46 (UTC)
pat:
Trix, Glad you have been spared so far, know it can be alot worst for you. Think Pa is doing pretty good also. Even though it snows most of the time the sun has been out the next day to melt some of it away. Think Spring, oh the thought of Spring. Sitting here and drinking a B-52, drink that is, and it's good....
- 204.186.36.109 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 00:52:38 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Wi geht es Dihr (Euch)? Mir geht es gut. Hope all had a super week.
- 63.252.223.59 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:05:00 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Re: holy water. My Bavarian grossmutter used to throw holy water on the walls of the house during bad storms. Then she told us Himmelpapa was angry at us for being naughty children. My oma was always telling stories and threatening her kids and grandkids with gypsy stories. I don't know the German word, but it only worked for a few years. We had never seen a gypsy.
- 63.252.223.59 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:09:29 (UTC)
Trix:
Guten Abend Pat und Margaret. Wie geht es Euch beiden? Good Evening Pat and Margaret. How are you both? Thank you for sharing the matter about the holy water. I agree, the Gottscheers did that too. Gypsies are Zigeuner. Does it sound familiar? I am really looking forward to hearing more stories and myths about life in Gottschee. I just know there must be many tales that have been told but unfortunately I do not remember any. I only remember knowing how to work even when very young. So, keep thinking for we really never forget anything, I am told. Slowly, but surely, we remember. I am told that too and keep waiting.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:16:00 (UTC)
pat:
margaret my aunt told me once that these gypsies use to come to the house, visit and have tea and crumpets all the time, knew all the while that all my aunt use to get her fortune told, just didn't want my grandmother to find out...
- 204.186.36.109 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:17:19 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Pat: My oma firmly believed that if you weren't hospitable to the gypsies, they would put the evil eye on your animals and the cows wouldn't give milk, chickens wouldn't lay etc. That's where the tea and crumpets came in probably.
- 63.252.223.59 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:20:38 (UTC)
Trix:
Pat and Margaret: What, if anything, do you remember about the deep faith the Gottscheers had? Many prayers, procession through the fields, saying the rosary every Saturday night after dinner on your knees etc. Their faith was practiced religiously and totally.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:23:51 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: I'm sorry to say that religion was pretty much a female thing, at least in my grandparents' lives. I think religion provided the women solace, in the face of their hardships. The rosary was very important, but my father said they took great grandma's big wooden rosary apart to play marbles with the beads.
- 63.252.223.59 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:29:01 (UTC)
pat:
Margaret When I was kinda small but old enough to remember, my mother and I went to coney island, new york where she had her fortune told. Mymother always wanted to know that she was coming into money...she said that the gypsy asked her how much money she had, my mother told her what she had and she said that is what your fortune telling comes to and you will come into money, thank goodness I had enought money to get us on the train and home, haha
- 204.186.36.109 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:29:15 (UTC)
Pat:
Going to say goodnight to everyone, as getting tired and tomorrow have to shop around for a car, Pat
- 204.186.36.109 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:31:24 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Pat: Oma said you bought things from the gypsy caravans and had them mend things like pots and pans. I don't think you socialized. And you kept a sharp eye on the gypsies while they worked at your farm.
- 63.252.223.59 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:33:17 (UTC)
pat:
trix, don't know much about the deep faith too much, going to say goodnight one more time, haha
- 204.186.36.109 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:34:10 (UTC)
Trix:
I agree Margaret. I don't think you saw many men in church. Some of hte stories Ihave heard is that they either stood way in the back of the church or just outside, smoking their cigarettes. It was solace, I believe, and much needed too. Most Gottscheer women did not have an easy life and because of that they never learned to "take it easy" or "take time for their needs". There is no doubt that they were the backbone of the family life and keeping it together. That is not to say, of course, that there were exceptions but the majority worked very, very hard and had a tough life.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:34:39 (UTC)
Trix:
Well, Margaret, it looks like it will be you and I for now anyway. Did you watch that great game last night? Now that is what I call a snowstorm. Reminded me so much of the old Viking games with the outdoor stadium. It was exciting to the end, no doubt about that.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:36:37 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: One real lesson both my grandmas taught their kids and grandkids was to "be busy" all the time. My 91 year old aunt still embroiders constantly--because she has to keep her hands busy. The devil sat on idle shoulders, you know.
- 63.252.223.59 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:37:57 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: I thought it was cruel to make the players work in a blizzard. Too bad they didn't put a roof on that stadium in New England. I've never experienced snow like that first hand.
- 63.252.223.59 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:39:32 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Think I will say auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund. Alles gut.
- 63.252.223.59 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:40:24 (UTC)
Trix:
Margaret, did you inherit any kind of Gottscheer books from your family? I know there are some real old ones around but it hard to know who has some.
The other area that I want to devote some time to is to collect a list of herbal healing. I know that Gottscheers seldom went to doctors. They were just to far away and to difficult to get there. They lived on medicial plants. On our 1996 trip to Gottschee we had 2 sisters born there. We visited their home village and they immediately went to the areas where they had planted the plants and sure enough found them, named them and shared what they were used for. This is truly important information for all Gottscheers to have. So, if you hear of anything or remember from earlier times, please pass them on. We need to concentrate on gathering this information now while some of the older generation is still around.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:42:19 (UTC)
Trix:
Imagine - here I am all solo for the first time since I have joined the Plauderzimmer. It is ok - I CAN WAIT!
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:43:23 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good evening ladies
- 198.81.16.162 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:44:21 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Trix you still here
- 198.81.16.162 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:46:25 (UTC)
Trix:
Just got back Marilu. How are you? Have you been thinking about Gottscheer stories and myths? I am on a mission, I guess.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:55:24 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, remember I grew up here and did not know anything of Gottschee. So I do not know of any myths.
- 198.81.16.162 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 02:58:11 (UTC)
Ridy:
Hi Trix and Marilu!
Sorry to be so late. Christopher was here and updating my computer. I finally have sound again, and a few other things I didn't know I was missing. Now I'll have to find out what they are. . . .
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:07:39 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Ridy How are things in Canada tonite. Very quiet here.
- 198.81.16.162 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:09:44 (UTC)
Ridy:
Very quiet here too. I guess the men are giving us a wide berth these days. Wonder if they're out shovelling snow? We don't have any. Too warm again. It's a puzzlement, this weather.
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:11:59 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, those men have been not wanting to show their face tonite...We don't have any snow, but we sure have had lots of wind this week. And it is still blowing now. A cold wind!
- 198.81.16.162 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:13:23 (UTC)
:
Konck, knock......
- 64.156.106.83 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:14:38 (UTC)
:
ooops, knock, knock
- 64.156.106.83 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:16:00 (UTC)
Ridy:
I was checking on my snowdrops today, and those which are in a sheltered area facing south are just about ready to open. I figure another sunny, warm day and they'll be swinging their little bells. So bizarre -- in Toronto, and in January.
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:16:21 (UTC)
Trix:
Who's there?
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:16:48 (UTC)
Ridy:
Go see who that is knocking, Marilu -- I'm too tired to get up!
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:16:55 (UTC)
Trix:
Could it be Chicago Franz?
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:17:59 (UTC)
Ridy:
Trix - had a long chat with Louise today. She's doing OK.
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:18:02 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lololol I'm too tired to go look too!
- 198.81.16.162 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:18:34 (UTC)
Trix:
Ridy, I am so pleased to hear that. It's time - she has paid her dues. It is time to get well and do some fun things.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:18:58 (UTC)
Ridy:
Has to be a man. . . .a women would just open the door and peek inside!
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:19:28 (UTC)
:
I guess nobody wants to open the door... adieu
- 64.156.106.83 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:19:28 (UTC)
Trix:
Well, no point knocking. Nobody is opening the door. We are all tired.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:19:46 (UTC)
Trix:
This is getting funnier by the minute.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:20:36 (UTC)
Ridy:
Adieu, mein Kleiner Gardeofficier, adieu, adieu, und vergiß mich nicht!
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:21:01 (UTC)
Trix:
Ok, ok, the door is open. Come on in.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:21:14 (UTC)
Ridy:
Did we blow it?
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:23:04 (UTC)
:
We don't know anybody that bashful!
- 198.81.16.162 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:23:47 (UTC)
Trix:
Must have. Sorry about that mystery friend.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:24:06 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Opps sorry that was me.
- 198.81.16.162 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:24:09 (UTC)
Ridy:
So - Trix - do you really think there are old Gottscheer stories floating around out there somewhere? Other than that rather tacky tale of Friedrichstein?
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:25:39 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I need help locating my Grandfathers record his name is John Eisenzopf
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:28:55 (UTC)
Ridy:
Hello, Sharon
Do you have any other details, such as date and place of birth?
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:31:40 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I have the date feb 28, 1898 but no place of birth but Austria
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:33:40 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I tried all the web sites and the local church but no record
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:34:47 (UTC)
Trix:
Sharon: Did you get my message regarding a Richard Eisenzopf from NY? I am assuming he is not related to you, is he? If not, he subscribes to the Gottscheer Zeitung and
his name appeared in the January 2002 issue. It made my day but if he is related that joy was definitely short lived.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:35:53 (UTC)
Ridy:
Have you tried the Ellis Island web site?
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:36:07 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
my grandfather moved he to canada in 1927 never went through ellis island
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:37:39 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
opps sorry about the spelling
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:38:01 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
trix are you related to any Eisenzopfs?
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:39:37 (UTC)
Trix:
No, I am not but I recognized your earlier message looking for Eisenzopf. So, when I saw it in the paper I thought I would mention it. He lives in Ridgewood but you never know. I hope you will try to connect with him, unless, of course he is related and you know him.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:42:08 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
the only eisenzopf i know live here in canada
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:43:17 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
how do i get in contact with him?
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:43:58 (UTC)
Ridy:
Where is 'here in Canada'? I live in Toronto, Sharon
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:44:19 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
i know that there is eisenzopf listed in the gottschee web page but no info attached
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:45:03 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
fort frances on
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:45:18 (UTC)
Ridy:
That's a ways away! Toronto, of course, is the center of the Universe.
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:46:40 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
yeah don't i know that Ha Ha
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:47:20 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Now Ridy, I thought Canon City was the center of the Universe!!!
- 198.81.16.162 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:48:32 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
if i join the gottschee membership do i have access to my family name or do they just send the monthly newsletter what is this group like?
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:49:02 (UTC)
Trix:
Well, Sharon, you and I are not all that far apart. You are right across from International Falls, aren't you? I am south of Grand Rapids in MN. Oh, gosh, tell me I know my geography.
Tell you what let me see what I can find out. Please e-mail me at wyants@mlecmn.net with any information and I will respond likewise. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:49:55 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
you know your geography
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:50:24 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
sure i'll email you any help is great thanks
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:51:28 (UTC)
Trix:
YIPPEE! Now that is good news. Look forward to hearing from you Sharon.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:51:33 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I'll email you tomorrow after work, I'll gather as much info I have right now
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:53:47 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I like this chat line I meant to go on last Sunday but forgot to.
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:54:30 (UTC)
Ridy:
I'm still trying to find it on the map! I think it comes up with Rainy River on the weather forecast, and that's how I know it's not very close to me.
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:54:48 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
look on the minnesota border west of thunder bay
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:55:28 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ladies, it is time for me to put 3 granddaughters to bed. We are having a sleep over..no school tomorrow. I will see you all next Sunday.
- 198.81.16.162 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:55:56 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
rainy river or rainy lake is the area
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:56:16 (UTC)
Ridy:
Got it -- that's way, way far away!
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:56:30 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
its not that far away
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:57:13 (UTC)
Jim H:
Just dropped in to say hello. Anyway left on the airways?
- 152.163.201.202 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:57:32 (UTC)
Ridy:
I do hope you remember to join us next Sunday, Sharon! In the meantime, I must also call it a day -- past my bedtime.
Gute Nacht!
- 64.229.236.132 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:57:50 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
yeah same here i have to work at 6 am night all and hope to see you next sunday
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:58:29 (UTC)
Trix:
Well, it is newtime at the Wyants. Thanks for a good evening and may you all have a great think. Think happy thoughts.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:58:46 (UTC)
Trix:
Actually, it is newstime and may you all have a great week. What happened here? Excuse me.
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 03:59:37 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim - Good Evening and Good night. How about that?
- 209.240.237.141 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 04:00:25 (UTC)
Jim H:
I guess it is a case of hello and goodbye. Sharon, tried to see what I had on Eisenzopfs. Nothing that matched up. Some in the Nesseltal parish, some in the Gottschee parish. If you know of any brothers or sisters, that may help. Do you know if any stayed in Gottschee. That might help as well in narrowing things down. I will work with Trix if it is okay with you. By the way, Brooklyn is the center, hands down.
- 152.163.201.202 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 04:01:40 (UTC)
Jim H:
Goodnight, Trix and my other chat room friends.
- 152.163.201.202 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 04:02:14 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
sure Jim any help is appreciated my email address is ownsadurango@yahoo.com thanks
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 04:03:28 (UTC)
PaulBrasino:
It's after 11:oo P.M. on Sunday here in N.Y. Just got backfrom my middle sons Birthday celebration.. Anyone still here? Seems there was some dilogue going on..Sorry I missed being here to put my two cents in...
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 04:15:24 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
All of a sudden I have to go thru a bunch of links to get to the bulletin board and the plauderzimmer..Anyone else having the same problem, or is it just my PC?
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 04:49:32 (UTC)
Helmuth:
Everyone,
The old domain URL of www.best.com/ks/...etc has expired. There was a grace period after the site migration that is now over. You should now bookmark either http://kt3l.com or http://hwk.best.vwh.net and delete your old bookmark for the site.
- 170.201.180.38 - Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 12:16:26 (UTC)
Helmuth:
See my message of October 25th in the Bulletin Board ("Migration continues - suggest new bookmarks/favorites") for more details.
- 170.201.180.38 - Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 12:26:33 (UTC)
Sophia:
Greetings. Can't tell you how much I have missed visiting this site. So glad it is up and working again. Regards to all Gottscheers and have a good day.
Helmuth, DANKE.
- 209.240.245.158 - Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 12:32:51 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Sophia and Helmuth: And I thought I was getting so good at this computor..I hope I can figure out this http stuff..Thanks for the info
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 22:27:52 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
O.k. Well I got on from the instructios, so thank you..."See" you all this weekend..Even when I don't have much to say, I love reading the dialogue..Is that being nosy? I really was heart=sick when I thought I couldn't get on anymore..Just the names alone always give me that warm and "hoimish" feeling.
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, January 25, 2002 at 01:53:33 (UTC)
Sophia:
Paul, you have my permission to read and enjoy the dialogue anytime and you are not being NOSY! I love to read it myself. I call that being interested, having an inquisitive mind and learning from one another. See you Sunday night.
- 209.240.245.81 - Friday, January 25, 2002 at 05:02:01 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Kind words Sophia, Thank You..I HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS GOTTSCHEER FAMILY SINCE 1940-CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT. I FELL IN IMMEDIATELY, ENJOYING THE PEOPLE, THE FOOD, THE MUSIC AND THE SINGING,,EVEN LEARNED SOME OF THE SONGS MYSELF, AND LEARNED SOME OF THE LANGUAGE--I DON'T MEAN I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK FLUENTLY, BUT I MADE MYSELF UNDERSTOOD TO EVERYONES AMAZEMENT..THEN CAME TEN YEARS OF VERY HARD WORK IN A RESTAURANT BUSINESS, AND I LOST A LOT OF TIME AND STARTED TO FORGET, EVEN THO I USED TO TALK SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN BED WHEN I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SLEEPING,, SO NOW I SAY DANKE AGAIN AND SEE YOU LATER...
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, January 25, 2002 at 21:12:50 (UTC)
PAULBRASINO:
IT IS ALMOST 9:00 PM. AND PROMISED MY WIFE IWOULD WATCH THE SCARY ROSE RED SHOW ON TV WITH HER.... SO IF ANYONE IS STILL ON WHEN I GET BACK, I WILL BE HERE TOO...IN ANY EVENT, ENJOY THE EVENING, BEST REGARDS TO ALL OF YOU..PAUL
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 01:47:54 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Thought I would make an early appearance. Anyone else lurking in the wires?
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 01:51:15 (UTC)
Ridy:
Hi Jim! Where you out, sunning yourself on your deck today?
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 01:59:05 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Actually, did a little work outside but my legs need more than a little sun. Frank Perdue was looking to use them in a commercial.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:02:38 (UTC)
Muriel Christ:
Hi, Sophia, I made it!
- 152.163.197.203 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:03:15 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Wie geht es Alles? Mir geht es gut. And the RAMS will be in the super bowl! At least one Missouri team does us proud.
- 64.197.198.242 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:03:40 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Muriel. Welcome to the chat room.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:03:59 (UTC)
Muriel Christ:
Hi, Jim! Where's Trix! I'm new here. Just joined your group last week. I'm from Kansas. You can't get better than that!
- 152.163.197.203 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:06:21 (UTC)
Ridy:
Hello, ladies. It looks like we'll have a nice group today!
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:06:27 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Muriel and Jim: Glad you could log on. Just like spring in KCMO. Will be 3 BELOW by Thursday. But I guess that typical Missouri weather.
- 64.197.198.242 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:07:07 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Are you from the Rome branch?
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:08:01 (UTC)
Ridy:
Kansas, eh? So what's so good about Kansas? Except that you live there, Muriel, and that counts for a lot.
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:08:09 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ladies, well excuse me Ridy. No wonder Franz is hiding out.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:08:39 (UTC)
Sophia:
Good Evening KK, Margaret, Ridy and Dr. Jim. How is everyone? How was the Goulash Muriel? Glad you joined us.
Margaret I love watching the Rams but Fox TV was not nice to us out in the country. Did enjoy the NE - Pittsburg game followed by the European Ice Skating championship.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:09:26 (UTC)
Ridy:
Hey, get your nose back in joint, Jim! I acknowledged you first, all by our lonesome!
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:09:41 (UTC)
Muriel Christ:
Yes, Jim! I'm from the Rome branch. My cousin Frank tells me everything about your group. The rest I hear from Trix. All I do is make Earpflkhnellain like my mother did. That's about my only real Austrain connection...FOOD!
Ridy...we have everything in Kansas: dog racing, auto racing. No people, just racing!
- 152.163.197.203 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:10:37 (UTC)
Ridy:
Are you the lady who sends Trix those terrific jokes she passes along to us, Muriel?
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:11:37 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone!
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:12:39 (UTC)
Muriel Christ:
Sophia, haven't made the goulash yet. Out to dinner today to a friend's new home. It was beautiful. Felt like coming home and throwing rocks at mine! Sorry I'm not a football fan!
- 152.163.197.203 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:12:44 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Muriel: We watched the 2 football games that determined the super bowl teams. Sorry about Ice Skating. Do't much care for ice skating, anyway. Are you from Kansas? Our neighbor? Where abouts?
- 64.197.198.242 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:13:10 (UTC)
Sophia:
Yes Ridy, she is and they are about as good as they come. Golly, I have laughed my heart out reading them. So, keep them coming this a way KK, ok?
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:13:56 (UTC)
Muriel Christ:
Ridy, yes. That's me! $2,300 for this computer and all I do is pass jokes through it! What a waste! But I do have fun. After I retired I swore I would never get a computer, but here I am!
- 152.163.197.203 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:14:04 (UTC)
Muriel Christ:
Margaret, I live in the ghetoo by Wyandotte High School, Kansas City, KS. I worked for the utility company for 30 years and you had to live here in the city to work for them....so here I am! Where do you live in KCMO?
- 152.163.197.203 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:15:46 (UTC)
Ridy:
Ah, but look at the people you're meeting, Muriel! Look at it this way -- we're worth it!
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:15:59 (UTC)
Muriel Christ:
Margaret, that's ghetto! not ghetoo!
- 152.163.197.203 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:16:08 (UTC)
Muriel Christ:
Ridy, where do you live?
- 152.163.197.203 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:16:42 (UTC)
Sophia:
Got to go back to the topic of stories, myths, fables of Gottschee again? Anyone got any more? Ridy, did you make some comments about so much being written about snakes? What is that all about? Were there a lot of snakes in Gottschee? I know there were some but was it a huge problem? For example in the Tschinkel Wörterbuch der Gottscheer Mundart he writes under Kren or horseradish: spread the peelings around the house to keep the snakes away. Yuk! Did I spell that right? Oh, well, you know what I meant.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:17:25 (UTC)
Ridy:
I live in the centre of the Universe! That's how we spell center up here in Toronto.
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:17:28 (UTC)
Muriel Christ:
Ridy, I'm learning so much about my computer too from Sophia. Whoever thought I would need to know umlauts!
- 152.163.197.203 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:17:39 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, Pat Sullivan did not have the ship that Joseph Petsche came here on, so he was happy to have that information.
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:19:52 (UTC)
Ridy:
There is one old fable connected with Schloss Friedrichstein that there was a treasure buried there, and that a large snake guarded the entrance. It had a gold key to unlock the door to the treasure in its mouth - but to get the key you had to get past its fangs!
There was also a custom, I'm told, to spread the egg shells from easter eggs around the outside of a house to keep out snakes. I don't think they were a big problem -- haven't heard of anyone who was actually ever bitten by a snake. . . .
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:21:11 (UTC)
Sophia:
Muriel, next to a husband I think the computer is the best toy you can have. So just enjoy the darn thing and keep sending them jokes. Actually though, there is a lot to learn. Imagine this, if you will.
My paternal grandmother was born in Süd-Tirol; went to Vienna to work, met my grandfather, returned to Gottschee with him and married. For 65 years I have been trying to find some Plattners in Süd-Tirol (now part of Italy). Never did. Last week decided to type in the name Plattner once more and BINGO found a bunch. Wouldn't you know it even found my grandmother's entire family tree including all her siblings. They are all dead but the good is that there is a living Plattner outside Vienna and we are probably going to be 2nd cousins. Now, Muriel the point here is if I did not have this toy it would have never happened. I am keyed!!!I am delighted!!!I am excited.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:22:14 (UTC)
Margaret:
Muriel: I live "north of the river" as we say here. I live in Clay county in an addition called Sherwood Estates near the Antioch Shopping Center and about 10 minutes from Worlds of Fun and Oceans of Fun. In St. Gabriel's parish.
- 64.197.198.242 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:22:34 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, glad to be of service. It was one of those names that they would never find when looking for it because the transcribers misspelled it. When I saw, Shelby I thought of you.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:22:36 (UTC)
Margaret:
Ridy: I don't know how plentiful snakes were, but my father and his siblings were terrified of snakes because of the foolishness my oma kept telling them. My dad would grow pale, if he even saw a snake on TV. Strange.
- 64.197.198.242 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:24:56 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, he had looked under several different spellings and could not find it. The town in Gottschee was mispelled also, but he knew what it was supposed to be.
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:25:25 (UTC)
Sophia:
Regarding the snakes once more, then I will quit. Well, maybe I will.
Had a call from a GHGA member last week. She was born in Russbach and lives in CA. I had asked her about the stories, snakes etc. She thought about and called me back the day and I learned the following. That a Johann Sterbenz, also from Russbach, was in the fields working when he was bit a Diamond Head (is that the same as a rattle snake?); there was no one with him at the time that could have tied the area up so as to stop the spread of the poison. By the time a member of his family got to him he was very ill and died in the field. The lady, now in her 70's had totally forgotten about it until I mentioned it. She was one of the children who went to the field and witnessed the sadness.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:26:16 (UTC)
Ridy:
Margaret - I'm quite convinced that foolishness was all it was. And children were always being kept in line by being told stories of witches and snakes and gypsies and the like - and what would happen to them if they didn't behave.
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:26:32 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I would of never found out about Gottschee and met all you wonderful people with out a computer!
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:27:10 (UTC)
Sophia:
Just a question. Has anyone heard from Franz? I mean this is so unusual not to have him join us for so long. I hope he is ok. I know that Mr. Rabuse and wife have been sick with the flu for 2 weeks but are on the mend.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:28:55 (UTC)
Ridy:
The night is still young, Trix -- give him time to wake up..
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:29:46 (UTC)
Sophia:
Muriel, when did you first learn about your Gottscheer heritage and from whom?
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:29:54 (UTC)
Margaret:
I have the best of 2 worlds now. I'm listening to my CD of Celtic music and chatting with my Gottscheer family. Since my name now is Murphy I can appreciate both worlds.
- 64.197.198.242 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:30:36 (UTC)
Darlene:
Hi all..Hi Jim..Hi Sophia...so glad I found this site!
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:31:37 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Darlene. Welcome aboard from Hawley.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:32:48 (UTC)
Ridy:
Speaking of listening to CDs -- Steve Persche sent me a CD of Georg Persche playing Ziehharmonika music from Gottschee and I had quite a nice party all by myself listening to it today! Haven't heard that kind of music in many a long year!
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:33:26 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Getting late. Will say auf widersehen. Alles gut. Bleib gesund. Till next Sunday.
- 64.197.198.242 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:33:28 (UTC)
Ridy:
Hello, Darlene!
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:34:11 (UTC)
Ridy:
Margaret -- 'Late' is a relative term. . . .you've got to reset your clock!
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:34:50 (UTC)
Darlene:
Thank you! I will be back and forth. Have to put the little ones to bed. Have been so consumed with all the great info today..that they are late going to bed! I am still amazed with the info.
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:35:17 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, you sound like my sister. Her lights go out rather early in the evening. must be the circadian rhythms or is it the rhythm and blues.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:37:22 (UTC)
Sophia:
Hi Darlene. Welcome to the Gottscheer Plauderzimmer. Great to have you in the circle of Gottscheers who enjoy learning about their heritage and their ancestors.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:41:44 (UTC)
Ridy:
Don't think I'll touch that one, on second thought, Jim.... Where did Marilu and Muriel go?
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:42:00 (UTC)
Sophia:
Calling Marilu and Muriel!!!
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:42:43 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I am still here!!!
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:43:30 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Don't know. The lines went silent from both. They are most likely out looking for Franz.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:44:23 (UTC)
Sophia:
So glad you mention the CD by Georg Perz of Altlag. I have them too. His family really did a great job making the CD didn't they? All proceeds from the sale to to a convent, or work in South America, I think, where one of Georg's children is a nun. Quite a wonderful project. I love the music. I am told he was a well know musician throughout the area in his time.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:44:29 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I wonder where Franz has been hiding lately?
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:45:39 (UTC)
Ridy:
It's Georg Persche, Trix. . . You're getting it mixed up with the Perz who called me today.
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:45:49 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
have run into quite a few Gottscheers and am keeping busy. Thank goodness I don't like watching TV. Computers keep me out of trouble. I shudder to think of what I would have done with the 8 bizillion hours of time that would have been freed up if I had never heard of Gottschee.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:47:17 (UTC)
Sophia:
Come to think of it we haven't mentioned the numerous other excellent cassettes and/or CD's that are available. There is the wonderful tenor Johann Stalzer in NY; then Herman Stampfel has a great CD with songs and instrumental Gottscheer music; then there is the Milwaukee Women's Choir and the Cleveland group. And for some of the newcomers don't forget the wonderful 1936 Video by Father Trapp of his visit to Gottschee. How about Albert Belay's cookbook and all the wonderful publications by the GHGA and our own chatroom members Ridy and Marilu. Got questions, just ask.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:47:35 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Perz, Perc, Persche, Pirc ----- I know they are supposed to be different but I can't help but think they link up somewhere over the rainbow.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:48:14 (UTC)
Sophia:
Ridy, you are correct IT IS GEORG PERSCHE.
Dr. Jim, I am very happy too that you don't like watching TV.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:49:00 (UTC)
Ridy:
You and me both, Jim! My TV is seldom on. I've even given up on the Sunday morning talk shows, to which I was quite addicted. But I have a lot more friends now, thanks to the computer.
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:49:08 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, sounds so good when you post it that I want to buy them all. Wait a minute --- I think you already got me to buy most of them already :) .
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:49:29 (UTC)
Sophia:
Ridy and Marilu: What is the latest on your respective books?
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:50:10 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, I am glad I have not kept track of how many hours I have spent doing genealogy in the last five years!
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:50:47 (UTC)
Ridy:
I am quite certain that Persche is French in it's origins. . .
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:51:00 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
The one thing I remain concerned about would be the loss of information if something happened to the house. It would be family first, computer next, and then maybe the dog.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:52:18 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Sophia, I am very happy with the interest in my book. I never dreamed so many relatives would want on. I have sold 80, so far, and lots of them don't even know about it yet.
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:53:16 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Too many hours to count. I start surfing for one piece of information and then end up in three or four different directions and everything seems to come in handy for someone at sometime.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:53:31 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Both you and Ridy should be proud of your work and the response.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:54:06 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Muriel, are you still around?
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:54:24 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim surely you have everything backed up to cd's. I need to store copies elsewhere. A Underberg relative in New York had a fire in his house, and lost almost all his genealogy. He had sent me a photocopy of a prayer book from the 1800 with dates and such in it. Good think I kept the copy, and the translation as he lost them also.
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:55:28 (UTC)
Sophia:
Dr. Jim. Your dog just told me that all you have to do is open the door and he will run like hell.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:58:25 (UTC)
Ridy:
Jim - I accomplished something resembling a small fire! I got orders from Christopher to clean out some of my files because I have a lot of junk stored in the computer, and quite to my own delight, I actually started on this chore. Unfortunately, I got a bit carried away, and deleted some things I hadn't meant to delete! When Christopher came out and he saw how much I had zapped, he suddenly panicked and decided to do a more permanent backup of the book manuscript.... he was afraid I'd get careless one day and delete that as well!
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:58:45 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I tend to email the worksheet files to myself and then download them at other computers so they are off site. The Ellis Island file takes over 13 minutes to send. The FTM file is too large to even think about sending over the wires so I downloading to 4 floppies from time to time. The information is then stored off site as well.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 02:59:50 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim do you compress the FTM file. I bet it would fit on a cd even not compressed.
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:01:22 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, I will try to keep that secret from the dog. He is none too bright and would probably need detailed directions and signs with dog biscuits posted every five feet.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:01:24 (UTC)
Ridy:
I'm not worried about the manuscript, because both Arnold and the printer have a CD of it. . .
Which reminds me -- I have to order more copies of the book tomorrow - just in case anyone else wants one.
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:01:53 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
It would certainly fit on a CD but I am not sure my CD burner is working since I upgraded to Windows 98 Second Edition.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:02:13 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I bet all you have to do is a reinstall, if it is not working.
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:03:52 (UTC)
Ridy:
My Family Tree files were among those I had deleted by accident - but fortunately Christopher was able to retrieve them somehow. I was alredy composing an SOS sob story to you, Jim, to please help me restore them.
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:04:06 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I am trying to give my computer a headache. I am chatting with you, downloading my files via email, and backing up my FTM file at the same time.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:05:01 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, if it ever comes to that, I am sure I can help out.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:05:59 (UTC)
Darlene:
Was reading back messages. Not to be nosey---awwww.. what the heck--ok..I'm being nosey! What books are you all talking about? Two people here have written books? Ridy and Marilu?
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:06:07 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Re: the reinstall, will have to locate the driver disks. Not sure where they are. I bought the CD burner for Amanda but she doesn't use it.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:06:45 (UTC)
Sophia:
We need to recruit some Gottscheers from the New York, Cleveland and maybe Milwaukee and Chicago areas. We need to know what is going on those communities. Any suggestions from anyone?
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:06:46 (UTC)
Sophia:
OK Ridy and Marilu - here is your opportunity to brag.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:07:57 (UTC)
Ridy:
Jim - that's how I got myself into trouble - trying to do several things at the same time, including chatting on the phone! That'll do it every time! I knew you could help, of course, because the files all came from you and John Herbst originally
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:08:09 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Go for it Ridy! Yours is tops, mine is just complied history.
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:08:53 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Eleanor Zach Kump from New York seemed to be interested when I met her in the summer. Maybe I will drop her a line.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:08:55 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I would like to talk to some of those Kump's from New York. I am still trying to find out about Ludwig Kump, if he married a Maria Peschel.
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:12:12 (UTC)
Ridy:
Yes - Darlene. Arnold Rom and I have written a book about our early lives - called Memories of Childhood. It covers our earliest years in Gottschee, the resettlement years between 1941 to 1945, the flight from Untersteiermark at the time when we became refugees at the end of the war, and the years immediately following the war before we came to Canada and USA.
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:12:45 (UTC)
Ridy:
By the way, Muriel -- another advantage of being on the computer! I met Arnold Rom right here in this chat room and we've never met face to face. He lives in Seattle and I live in Toronto!
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:16:11 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Marilu, do you have Maria Peschel's birth information? I may have it but I am not sure which Maria you are wondering about.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:19:30 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
yes Jim, I do. Just a sec and I will find it.
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:20:37 (UTC)
:
Sounds interesting. The other book is the history of? How can these books be purchased? How old were you when you came here?
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:22:03 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
This Maria Peschel was born Jan 26, 1882 in Oberdeutschau #5, and came to America in 1902. She listed Ludwig Kump in New York as he contact. Her father was a brother to my greatgrandfather, Joseph Peschel.
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:22:59 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Darlene, my book is the history of the Peschel family from Bistriz #5.
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:24:03 (UTC)
Ridy:
I was 12½ years old when I came to Canada. If you'd like a copy of the book, send me an e-mail at ridy@sympatico.ca
The cost is $25.00US or $35.00CDN, which includes postage and handling.
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:26:35 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ludwig died in 1963 and was living or had lived in the New York area. I checked the social security death index for any Kumps from 1882. Neither of the two matched up with Maria.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:31:36 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I am going to sign off for now. I may be back later on. Take care and have a good week.
- 64.12.103.41 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:32:13 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, I know I found the SS for Ludwig, but none for Maria. I was hoping someone would answer my posting, and I would get lucky.
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:33:19 (UTC)
:
See you later Jim..and thank you again! I appreciate all your help!! :)
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:33:20 (UTC)
Sophia:
Same goes for me. Have a good week everyone, stay well and think happy thoughts.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:33:24 (UTC)
Ridy:
G'nite Jim!
Must sign off as well. Thanks for the chat! See you next week.
- 64.229.233.87 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:33:32 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Goodnight Jim.
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:34:04 (UTC)
sharon:
Hi everyone I made it in
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:34:27 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Goodnight Everyone!!
- 198.81.16.174 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:34:29 (UTC)
sharon:
Trix are you still here?
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:34:48 (UTC)
Dar:
Good night all! Took down your address Ridy. Wish you both well on your books!! :)
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:35:27 (UTC)
Sophia:
Hi Darlene: Hope all is well and that the kids are tucked in. Have a good week.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:44:51 (UTC)
Dar:
You too Sophia! Will be in touch with you e-mail.
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:45:41 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
WELL. I SEE I MISSED EVERYONE..IWANTED TO RECORD THAT ROSE RED SHOW AND WATCH IT ANOTHER TIME, BUT IT DIDN'T WORK OUT...I DID SO WANT TO ASK ABOUT AN ARNOLD RANKEL WHO LIVES IN UPSTATE N.Y. MY COUSIN FRANK JAKLITSCH SAYS HE WAS IN WALDEN AT THE PICNIC, AND THAT HE MAY LIVE THERE. IF ANYONE KNOWS MR. RANKEL PLEASE TELL HIM TO CONTACT ME OR HAVE SOMEONE CONTACT ME VIA THE PLAUDERZIMMER. IT IS ABOUT FLAX SEED OIL CAPSULS. A CURE FOR SOME WHO HAVE STOMACH PROBLEMS..I CAN NOT TAKE THEM AND I HAVE A WHOLE JAR FULL THAT I WILL BE HAPPY TO MAIL TO HIM OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER--GRATIS.......SORRY I MISSED THE CHAT TONITE..
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, January 28, 2002 at 04:36:01 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
HAVE A FEW SPARE MINUTES..ANYONE AROUND?
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 19:48:29 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
DID YOU GET MY EMAIL MARILU?
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 19:49:25 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
GUESS NOT/////GOTTA GO NOW.....WISH YOU ALL A NICE DAY...
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 19:51:19 (UTC)
Marilu:
Paul: I don;t think your email came thru. Try again please. marilu1030@aol.com
- 198.81.17.43 - Friday, February 01, 2002 at 12:48:51 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
THANKS, MARILU...JUST E-MAILED YOU AGAIN. I THINK ISPELLED MARILU WITH A CAPITAL M INSTEAD OF LOWER CASE, BUT MY COMPUTOR TOLD ME IT WENT THRU .....LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, February 01, 2002 at 16:55:49 (UTC)
Marilu:
Paul, I don't know where your emails are going, but they are not coming to me. marilu1030@aol.com
- 198.81.17.171 - Friday, February 01, 2002 at 23:34:48 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
MARILU: YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS IS THE EASIEST ONE TO REMEMBER FROM THE LONG LIST OF NAMES I HAVE IN MY ADDRESS BOOK,THE ONLY ONE I CAN REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY ALTE KOPF. IN ANY EVENT WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKING IS: YOU MAILED ME A BUNCH OF NAMES. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY--WHAT WAS IT THAT I ASKED THAT PROMPTED YOU TO INFORM ME OF THE NAMES? I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR MAIL, BUT I AM STUMPED....MY WIFE IS ADELINE JAKLITSCH.DOES THAT RING A BELL? I WAIT TO HEAR FROM YOU WHEN YOU FIND TIME..THANKS, AGAIN
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, February 02, 2002 at 03:29:44 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
NETTIE=RICHIE...IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE READING TONITE, I WILL BE HERE FOR AWHILE..HOPE YOU ARE BOTH WELL..HAVING A BAD WEATHER DAY ON LONG ISLAND TODAY..YOU CHOSE A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE WHEN YOU LEFT FOR FLORIDA,,,REGARDS, ADIE & PAUL
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, February 02, 2002 at 03:35:16 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Paul, I posted those names to the Gottschee mailing list, and anyone who gets the mailing list, got it. Would you post your email here, so I can email you.
- 198.81.17.54 - Saturday, February 02, 2002 at 05:16:58 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
MARILU: MY E-MAIL ADDRESS IS satch_7@msn.com AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION...HAD ME GOING FOR A WHILE..HOPE I CAN GET ON FOR THE WEEKEND-ALWAYS NICE TO "TALK" AND HEAR FROM THE GROUP..BEST REGARDS,PAUL
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, February 02, 2002 at 17:06:49 (UTC)
:
Go Chicago Bears......Oops, they decided to hibernate this season. Wait till next year!!!!
- 65.227.57.16 - Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 18:43:14 (UTC)
:
Go New England Patriots! (I think?)
- 64.229.235.192 - Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 18:45:33 (UTC)
:
Keep thinking...aah wishing.
- 65.227.59.98 - Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 19:08:30 (UTC)
:
Go St. Louis Rams. Chicago Bears for another time along with the Minnesota Vikings.
Is that you Chicago Gottscheer?
- 209.240.245.89 - Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 20:11:02 (UTC)
Trix:
Looking for Gottscheers who have a connection to the village of Tanzbüchel. Please post your message.
- 209.240.245.89 - Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 20:13:28 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
What's the score?
- 65.227.57.97 - Monday, February 04, 2002 at 02:11:38 (UTC)
:
St. Louis 9
Patriots 17
- 64.229.238.238 - Monday, February 04, 2002 at 02:30:53 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi everyone. Franz, nice to see you aboard. Wow, how that score? Can you believe it that we are not getting the game at Waukenabo? And everyone thought it would be dull and boring because the Rams would walk away with it. Obviously not. So, how is everyone tonight or is anyone here?
- 209.240.245.131 - Monday, February 04, 2002 at 02:33:31 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
I'm here, but I can't talk sports, because I am not a sports person..But ,enjoy--hope your team wins.....My middle son is watching in ATLANTIC CITY CASINO..KILLING TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE!
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, February 04, 2002 at 02:48:36 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi Paul. Greetings and Good Evening. How are you and what is new in your world?
- 209.240.245.131 - Monday, February 04, 2002 at 02:50:10 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Good Evening to you Trix. Iam fine thank you, Adeline and I just got back from our favorite Italian restaurant..Full to the gills! Yesterday it was roastbrauten, today cacciatore. And Adie says I am spelling it wrong, but I know cacciatore is right anyway.
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, February 04, 2002 at 02:56:09 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
MARGARET: I WAS READING YOUR MESSAGE ABOUT LISTENING TO CELTIC MUSIC THE OTHER DAY..AND IT PUT ME IN MIND WHEN I WAS COPYING SOME GOTTSCHEER ACCORDIAN MUSIC FOR MY SISTER IN LAW IN HAWLEY, AND WHILE I WAS DOING THAT I WAS LISTENING TO SOME OF MY IRISH TAPES, TO MY WIFE'S DISBELIEF...SHE WANTED TO KNOW HOW I COULD POSSIBLY DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME...I SAID I LOVE ALL MUSIC, THAT'S HOW.
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, February 04, 2002 at 03:11:03 (UTC)
UNCLE PAUL:
AND NOW TO YOU LORRAINE...ARE YOU ON THE PLAUDERZIMMER YET? IF YOU ARE, TELL ME NOW.. AND HOW IS FRANZE? GOOD LUCK TO HIM TOMORROW AT HIS DENTIST..I'LL BE CALLING YOU..TOMORROW HE WILL BE(AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE WAY TO SPELL IT, BUT HERE GOES--HE WILL BE SHUEDAT.. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN ANYWAY...LOVE, UNCLE PAUL
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, February 04, 2002 at 03:18:36 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO/ADELINE JAKLITSCH:
SOPHIA; SEND YOU HAPPY WISHES FROM N.Y. HOPE ALL IS WELL...
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, February 04, 2002 at 03:20:32 (UTC)
sharon:
hello everyone
- 64.241.94.10 - Monday, February 04, 2002 at 05:45:37 (UTC)
Trix:
Reminding everyone to keep thinking about Gottscheer stories, myths, tales, fables and religious observances. If yu have anything to share please send them to wyants@mlecmn.net. Thank you.
- 216.251.169.4 - Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 04:36:52 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Trix: Sending this "Gottscheer " story via the Plauderzimmer because I think it is not only a cute story with humor, but also a reminder of the old days for all of us, Gottscheer or otherwise. Frank Jaklitsch who came from Verdrang and married my niece who is also of Gottscheer ancestry sent for his mother and father to come to America and visit with him and his new wife. His mother was impressed with everything she saw and what he had accomplished here..She was one of the nicest ladies I have ever met..But, she had a word of warning for her son. When she saw his wife throw away ice cubes, she said to him "Frank, she is a nice girl, but be careful. she may be wasteful!" Think how good we have it the next timw you throw away ice cubes....
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 20:55:10 (UTC)
Trix:
Paul: Cute indeed. THANK YOU for sharing and reminding us all how good we really do have it. Keep digging for other stories too.
- 209.240.237.139 - Thursday, February 07, 2002 at 01:04:55 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Hi to all from KCMO coated with ice. Worst ice storm ever recorded here. We were without power for 5 days, many people suffered longer. Things are beginning to shape up. Whole town looks like a war zone with all the trees down. Missed you all on Sunday. We moved in with our son and daughter in law. Everyone was glad to get back to their own homes and beds. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.197.199.94 - Thursday, February 07, 2002 at 01:11:16 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Margaret: Your message is a prime example of how good we have it here at home in New York, at least so far...Stay warm..we wish you better weather.
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, February 07, 2002 at 01:21:37 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Hello, Any body here? am trying to top the ice cube story,and i am sure I know some more,but my mind is a total blank just now..Am I getting old, or what?
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, February 07, 2002 at 23:28:29 (UTC)
Trix:
No Paul, you are not getting old you may be having an "intellectual interuption", like most of us do from time to time. Just keep thinking and it will come.
- 209.240.237.138 - Friday, February 08, 2002 at 00:43:23 (UTC)
Trix:
No Paul, you are not getting old you may be having an "intellectual interuption", like most of us do from time to time. Just keep thinking and it will come.
- 209.240.237.138 - Friday, February 08, 2002 at 00:43:37 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Thanks Trix..I needed that, and it sounds better than Senior Moment..
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, February 08, 2002 at 01:00:25 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Is anyone around from Hawley that remembers Emma Kren or Millie Jaklitsch ? Been wanting to ask also if anyone from Ridgewood/Glendale ever went to the candy store on Cooper Ave, corner of 64th Lane.Or if they remember the Baby Shoe Bronzing place a couple of blocks from Hoffman hall.....
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, February 08, 2002 at 01:06:55 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
WOW! Everybody must really be busy..And here it is Sunday and hours away from chat time..The weather reports showing some pretty bad spots acroos the country..Not so, at least not just yet on Long Island in N.Y. For those of you affected by the storms I wish you safety and warmth...Sophia, you are in Mn. Right? Keep warm..Wish you all well.
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 16:59:55 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Wi geht es Dihr? I wish I could say Mir geht es auch gut, but we have had a tremendous ice storm in KC and are just now recovering. Power outages for up to 12 days. Awful!
- 63.252.222.35 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:06:51 (UTC)
:
Hi Margaret..
I just sent a letter to a JONKE to see if he's related lol
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:10:41 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Will be back in about 30 minutes. Things to take care of. Promise yto return. Oldest son turned 42 today, party, etc.
- 63.252.222.35 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:11:11 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening to everyone. Hope all is well.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:13:19 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Jim!
All rested and caught up after your holiday?
- 64.229.233.170 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:19:51 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
probably watching the Olympics.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:20:16 (UTC)
Darlene:
Hi JIm...Hi Ridy
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:20:51 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Doing well thank you. Just the usual back ache. I may hang upside down in a few to take the pressure off.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:20:54 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Good evening, Darlene. How is Hawley since we left on Friday. Probably not the same.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:21:21 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I watched the opening ceremonies. Was very impressed with the luminaries who carried in the Olympic flag!
- 64.229.233.170 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:21:42 (UTC)
Darlene:
Raining here...was pretty cold when you were here...temps were in the teens.
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:22:10 (UTC)
Darlene:
I'm watching the Olympics now.
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:22:41 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Darlene!
- 64.229.233.170 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:22:42 (UTC)
Trix:
Guten Abend. Wie geht es allen? I need a break from watching the Slalom. Can you believe the speed? WOW. Alfred Mallner, Grüß Dich. How is everything in beautiful Graz. No doubt you are all celebrating the gold. CONGRATULATIONS. Ridy, Dr. Jim. Hi.
- 209.240.245.158 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:22:46 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Darlene, the temps were okay with me. Expected it to be colder. I think you are having a mild winter all in all.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:23:32 (UTC)
Darlene:
Hi Trix...hope all is well by you.
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:23:47 (UTC)
Darlene:
Last week was really cold compared to other days. Wish it would have snowed though.
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:24:37 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Trix, no go on those files.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:25:04 (UTC)
Trix:
Same here. That's ok, they are coming snail mail. Hi Darlene! Another beautiful day in Minnesota. What a winter this has been. Well, come to think of it, it's not over yet. Looks like the Austrians are 1, 2 and 3 in skiing at the moment.
- 209.240.245.158 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:30:52 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Would have liked a touch more snow on the ground but the driving was easy. We took a hike at Schumann's point. Very pretty. Winter isn't over but the lack of snow will hurt us later on.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:34:56 (UTC)
Darlene:
Did you find any nice restaurants to go to?
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:39:00 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
We went to the Alpine House, The Boat House, the restaurant at the Mill Stream Hotel, and Pizza Hut. One or two others.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:44:25 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Brought home goulash, leberkasse, and fruits of the forest pie with rhubarb.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:44:57 (UTC)
Darlene:
My son works in the restaurant by the lake here. I still have to get to the Alpine House...one day.
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:46:29 (UTC)
Ridy :
Didn't you go to Lukans? I keep hearing about that place.
- 64.229.233.170 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:46:57 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Good place for breakfast or lunch. Hit the Hawley diner for breakfast several times.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:47:11 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Stopped by Lukans twice but it was not open either time. Either they are closed this time of the year or only open on the weekends.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:47:45 (UTC)
Darlene:
I'm up the block from the Hawley diner...3 blocks up Keystone and then a right. My son's friend works in there.
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:49:37 (UTC)
Ridy :
Had a wonderful mini holiday in Ottawa this week. Went there by train, along with my sister and brother-in-law. It had finally been cold enough for the ice on the Rideau Canal to freeze to the needed thickness, so that it could be opened to the public. Wonderful to see so many people skating on it! They also have beautiful ice sculptures by artists from around the world.
- 64.229.233.170 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:50:25 (UTC)
Darlene:
I love watching ice sculpting...so pretty!!
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:53:38 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Hey, hey, the gang 's all here. Just finished my downhill run, couldn't catch the Gold, Fritz Strobel of Austria snatched it from me.
- 65.227.63.234 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 02:59:48 (UTC)
Ridy :
Gute Nacht, everyone. Time to watch the tube
for a change. . . .
See you next Sunday
- 64.229.233.170 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 03:01:11 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, Franz. Those Austrians are sooooo greedy. Let the USA get a couple more.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 03:01:31 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, vegging on the tube. Have a good evening.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 03:02:08 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Hello Jim, yes greed is catching on everywhere.
- 65.227.63.234 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 03:04:29 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
The Olympics are nice to watch but the commercialism has done away with the nice pretense of these being amateur games. Everything is strictly professional.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 03:09:47 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
I'll check back later.
- 65.227.63.234 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 03:10:13 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz, I think it is going to be slim pickings this evening. The Olympics are drawing the action away and rightfully so. Will check back later if noone else is around.
- 205.188.195.190 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 03:12:45 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi Hows the olympics going?
- 206.172.22.188 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 04:02:58 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I must of missed everyone. Everyone is probably watching the olympics.
- 206.172.22.188 - Monday, February 11, 2002 at 04:22:35 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Well it is now Monday Eve. And I guess everybody is plumb tuckered out..Just had to try.. Good Evening to everyone
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 00:27:05 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
HAPPY VALENTINE TO ALL PLAUDERZIMMER CHATTERS..HAVE A GREAT DAY........
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, February 14, 2002 at 15:59:24 (UTC)
Gerhard Samide:
Herzliche Gratulation nach USA zum Superlauf und Silbermedaille des Bode Miller.
Leider dadurch für uns Österreicher nur bronce.
Sende Euch ALLEN einen virtuellen Valntinsstraus aus Amstetten in Österreich
Gerhard
- 212.152.239.148 - Thursday, February 14, 2002 at 20:43:19 (UTC)
Heinrich Stalzer:
Gruessgot! Anybody know when, or if, Pula or Pola, was part of Austria? Both my granfather and father where from there, and his numerous uncles! They were emoployees and/or members of the navy.
I have a simple question, if you please. When was this port city part of Austria, or Italy. I believe it was part of Jugoslavia from 1917 til 1995.
By the way, the last Stalzer in Pula passed away in 1999. In his spare time, he ooperated a speed-boat taking tourists for a thrill ride in the Adriatic.
Heinrich
- 68.63.112.80 - Friday, February 15, 2002 at 19:16:23 (UTC)
Edith Eisenkölbl-Gliebe:
Franz Mausser:
Ich habe zufällig von Birgit Hostert Kraker (vom 12.Nov.2001) eine Plauderei mit Ihnen gefunden. So stellte ich fest, dass der Großvater von Rudolf Högler wahrscheinlich auch unser Großvater war. Meine Mutter Berta Gliebe (geb. Högler) stammte aus Altlag. Sie hatte fünf Schwestern und einen Bruder Fritz, welcher in Mösel Lehrer war.So müssten Frau Birgits Oma und Ihre Mutter auch meine Mutter sowie die Tanten gekannt haben. Leider sind alle schon verstorben. Ich bin 1943 in Tschatesch (Rann/Save) geboren worden und lebte mit meiner Mutter und meinen sechs Geschwistern im Lager Kapfenberg.Ich würde mich sehr freuen von Ihnen zu hören. Bir redn lei göttscheabarisch miteinonder und sind im Ausschuss bei der Gottscheer-Gedenkstätte Graz-Mariatrost. Meine e-mail-Adresse ist: r.eisenkoelbl@aon.at Herzlichen Gruß!
- 195.3.113.6 - Friday, February 15, 2002 at 20:09:45 (UTC)
Heinrich Stalzer:
Gruessgot! Anybody know when, or if, Pula or Pola, was part of Austria? Both my granfather and father where from there, and his numerous uncles! They were emoployees and/or members of the navy.
I have a simple question, if you please. When was this port city part of Austria, or Italy. I believe it was part of Jugoslavia from 1917 til 1995.
By the way, the last Stalzer in Pula passed away in 1999. In his spare time, he ooperated a speed-boat taking tourists for a thrill ride in the Adriatic.
Heinrich
- 68.63.112.80 - Saturday, February 16, 2002 at 02:22:06 (UTC)
Heinrich Stalzer:
Gruessgot! Anybody know when, or if, Pula or Pola, was part of Austria? Both my granfather and father where from there, and his numerous uncles! They were emoployees and/or members of the navy.
I have a simple question, if you please. When was this port city part of Austria, or Italy. I believe it was part of Jugoslavia from 1917 til 1995.
By the way, the last Stalzer in Pula passed away in 1999. In his spare time, he ooperated a speed-boat taking tourists for a thrill ride in the Adriatic.
Heinrich
- 68.63.112.80 - Saturday, February 16, 2002 at 10:38:41 (UTC)
Heinrich Stalzer:
Gruessgot! Anybody know when, or if, Pula or Pola, was part of Austria? Both my granfather and father where from there, and his numerous uncles! They were emoployees and/or members of the navy.
I have a simple question, if you please. When was this port city part of Austria, or Italy. I believe it was part of Jugoslavia from 1917 til 1995.
By the way, the last Stalzer in Pula passed away in 1999. In his spare time, he ooperated a speed-boat taking tourists for a thrill ride in the Adriatic.
Heinrich
- 68.63.112.80 - Saturday, February 16, 2002 at 12:47:04 (UTC)
Heinrich Stalzer:
Gruessgot! Anybody know when, or if, Pula or Pola, was part of Austria? Both my granfather and father where from there, and his numerous uncles! They were emoployees and/or members of the navy.
I have a simple question, if you please. When was this port city part of Austria, or Italy. I believe it was part of Jugoslavia from 1917 til 1995.
By the way, the last Stalzer in Pula passed away in 1999. In his spare time, he ooperated a speed-boat taking tourists for a thrill ride in the Adriatic.
Heinrich
- 68.63.112.80 - Saturday, February 16, 2002 at 21:24:09 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Saturday night in N.Y. Anyone on?
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, February 17, 2002 at 03:46:29 (UTC)
Paul Brasino/Adeline Jaklitsch:
To Whom it May Concern: Our Cousin Rudy Jaklitsch of East Meadow, L.I. and Hawkins, N.Y. passed away this week. If further information is needed, please post message here/include e-mail address and/or phone number..Thank You
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, February 17, 2002 at 21:37:24 (UTC)
Trix:
Greetings Paul and Adeline. I am very sorry to hear about your loss. I shared in your sadness and tears. Rudolf Jaklitsch is from where in Gottschee? Take care of yourslf and God Bless.
- 216.251.169.12 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 00:12:43 (UTC)
Ridy Högler Skyrme:
Guten Abend, Alle ~
Are any of you Plauderers ready to come into the chat room or do you prefer to lurk outside in the dark and cold?
- 64.229.235.51 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:00:39 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Is anyone around tonite?
- 198.81.16.37 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:32:11 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Hello, everyone. Is anyone here? I will be bouncing back and forth. My main computer is having problems and I have to wipe the disc and start from scratch.
- 152.163.213.52 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:34:26 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Everyone must be on a winter holiday!
- 198.81.16.37 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:35:52 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Could be but not likely. I have tried to upgrade to a cable modem but my computer has been having problems since. It will not recognize the CD rom drive.
- 152.163.213.52 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:40:27 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
so I am now downloading to disc or emailing myself all the files that I want to save along with finding as many set up discs for the programs as I can.
- 152.163.213.52 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:41:26 (UTC)
Trix:
Good evening to one and all. I, too, will be in and out as I am watching the Olympics. Hope everyone is a-1 ok. Anything new?
- 216.251.169.12 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:41:44 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Computers can be such a pain.
- 152.163.213.52 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:41:48 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Those kinds of computer problems are not fun. I am sticking with my modem for quie awhile I think. Actually, I don't even know what kind of cable computer services we have here.
- 198.81.16.37 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:41:56 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
The first files that I saved were the FTM files and the other files related to Gottscheer genealogy. Next will be picture files and then I will try to fix or kill the computer.
- 152.163.213.52 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:42:59 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Trix..do you remember having a conversation at conference last year about when the first Gottscheers came to the USA.
- 198.81.16.37 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:43:16 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I have only watched bits and pieces of the Olympics. Some wonderful and not so wonderful happenings.
- 152.163.213.52 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:43:45 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I try to keep all of that stuff backed up on a regular basis. I would be sick if I lost my FTM files and all my family data.
- 198.81.16.37 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:44:37 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
My favorite part of the Olumpics is the skating.
- 198.81.16.37 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:45:28 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I back it up as well but I add to one or the other on a daily basis. I then store it in another computer at home as well as one at work. Too many hours to replace. You could not pay me to do it all over again.
- 152.163.213.52 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:46:45 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Not a winter sport person but I have never liked the artistic skating because of the shenanigans that go on. I feel the same way about diving, boxing, and so on.
- 152.163.213.52 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:48:00 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
No, I would not want to do mine all over again either.
- 198.81.16.37 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:48:01 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I would quit. Too much work. Thank goodness for back ups. How are you doing in Colorado. The Ellis Island records have a qoodly number of Gottscheers heading out to Denver, Rico, Leadville and other towns.
- 152.163.213.52 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:50:31 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Do they still exist?
- 152.163.213.52 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:50:47 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Denver is still alive and kicking but how about the others?
- 152.163.213.52 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:51:09 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, Rico and Leadville still exist. I don't know how big Rico is, but several Gottscheers from Rockvale, which is a couple of miles from Canon City, moved to Rico when the coal mines closed here in the early 1900's.
- 198.81.16.37 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:52:38 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
There are several Gottscheers in Pueblo also, 30 miles from here. I have learned all sorts of interesting facts in the last couple of weeks. Some of the earliest Gottscheers were in Iowa.
- 198.81.16.37 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:54:00 (UTC)
Darlene:
Hi everyone!! Just wanted to say hello! Watching the Olympics here too.
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:55:36 (UTC)
Darlene:
I just put it on about half hour ago. Anyone know if they gave Canada the gold yet tonight??
- 204.186.217.33 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:56:23 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Darlene.
Yes, Marilu --- Pueblo was another name that came up.
- 152.163.213.52 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:56:38 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Rockvale was also in the mix, I think.
- 152.163.213.52 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:57:23 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Of course, all the earliest Gottscheers are not in the Ellis Island records cause they all came before 1895.
- 198.81.16.37 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:58:52 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi. Still waiting for the gold medal for the Canadians. Coming up soon.
Yes, Marilu I recall that conversation. I think there was an article about that in one of the publications but don't recall the date at this time.
Hope everyone is doing fine. Keep truckin' on the computer Dr. Jim. Back later.
- 216.251.169.12 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:59:35 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I would be interested in the names you have that came to this area if you ever have time to do a list like that.
- 198.81.16.37 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 02:59:48 (UTC)
Trix:
Would be nice to do research on all the regions where the Gottscheer settled. Would be equally nice to try to determine why they went there. Probably can't be done, or can it?
- 216.251.169.12 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 03:01:10 (UTC)
Trix:
Anyone remember any more Gottscheer stories, or myths? This applies even to those who are sitting and silently participating. Come on, we need you too.
- 216.251.169.12 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 03:02:10 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well I have been trying to gather that kind of information, because I am still trying to learn more about my Peschels, and I figure the more I learn about all of them, the more I know about my family also. I am starting to piece a few tidbits together here and there.
- 198.81.16.37 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 03:03:58 (UTC)
Jim:
Trix, there were certainly some patterns. The Norwood, Mass. Gottscheers were almost all from Ebental. I think those in Joliet came from Nesseltal and surrounding areas.
- 64.12.96.204 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 03:10:33 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, I am amazed at the number I have found in Iowa in the 1860's and 1870's.
- 198.81.16.37 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 03:14:28 (UTC)
Jim:
have to go still slogging along with the computer
- 64.12.96.234 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 03:23:49 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Sorry to be so late. Grandson installed new McAfee virus protector. Took 2 hours and more to complete. Hope all had a good week. KCMO finally recovering from ice storm.
- 63.252.224.212 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 03:29:16 (UTC)
sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi everyone. Enjoying the Olympics?
- 206.172.22.129 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 04:34:53 (UTC)
Paul Brasino/Adeline Jaklitsch:
Thank You Trix ......Rudy czme here from Verdrang If that is the way it is spelled, I forget. Adie and I sponsered Rudy and his Brother Frank in 1950....RUDY WILL BE MISSED BY ALL.
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 04:39:54 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi Paul. I think it is Verdreng but your spelling is close enough. Nice of you to have sponsored him. I know what that meant. Been there, done that. Take care of yourselves.
- 209.240.245.100 - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 13:31:38 (UTC)
Heinrich Stalzer:
Gruessgot! Anybody know when, or if, Pula or Pola, was part of Austria? Both my granfather and father where from there, and his numerous uncles! They were emoployees and/or members of the navy.
I have a simple question, if you please. When was this port city part of Austria, or Italy. I believe it was part of Jugoslavia from 1917 til 1995.
By the way, the last Stalzer in Pula passed away in 1999. In his spare time, he ooperated a speed-boat taking tourists for a thrill ride in the Adriatic.
Heinrich
- 68.63.112.80 - Wednesday, February 20, 2002 at 16:26:45 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Hello everyone...Another weekend is upon us, perhaps we will meet again over the weekend..wish you all a happy one.
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 01:15:18 (UTC)
Judy Garland-Watson:
Hello
First time here, thought I'd check
things out!
- 209.240.222.131 - Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 00:44:04 (UTC)
Judy Garland-Watson:
My surname is Kraker/Krocker
- 209.240.222.32 - Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 00:45:19 (UTC)
Judy Garland-Watson:
My surname is Kraker/Krocker
- 209.240.222.32 - Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 00:46:52 (UTC)
Judy Garland-Watson:
Hello
First time here, thought I'd check
things out!
- 209.240.222.131 - Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 00:48:18 (UTC)
Paul Brasino/Adeline Jaklitsch:
Welcome Judy: You will find a very nice group on this chat room...I am fairly new myself. Your names are real Hollywood.Judy Garland one of the entertainments'field greats snd Krocker, remember him on Kojak the super slueth on tekevision..My father-in law Johann Jaklitsch worked with someone named Krocker in Brooklyn, N.Y. So welcome, and enjoy the PLAUDERZIMMER
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 01:37:52 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
WELL, I SEE NO TRACE OF CHATTERS THIS EARLY...HAVE TO GO ENTERTAIN MY GUESTS TODAY..WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY DAY AND A HAPPY CHAT...
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 17:33:32 (UTC)
Ed and Mary Krocker:
To: Judy Garland-Watson
We were just checking the Plauderzimmer and saw your message. Ed's grandparents originally spelled their name Kraker and both were from Gottschee, from the villages of Rotenstein and Komutzen. Do you know where your ancestors were from? Our e-mail address is ekrock@clover.net.
- 209.151.190.216 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 00:02:44 (UTC)
patricia stonish warning:
would appreciate it very much if u all said a little prayer for me and my family as i lost my husband last night, thank you
- 204.186.25.93 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 01:47:27 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Patricia: I will remember you in my prayers tonight. I am so sorry about your loss. Take care. Will not stay long, would like to see Olympic closing. Congraats to the Canadian hockey team--good playing.
- 63.252.223.109 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 02:19:26 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Judy-Garland Watson: Welcome aboard. Hope you log on every Sunday night. My maiden name is Jonke--my married name is MURPHY! But we're all Gottscheers. LMy father's family came from Kumerdorf. My oma was born in Lichtenbach. Love to check and see if I can find any long-lost cousins. My great grandma was Ursula Stalzer Jonke. My oma was Jonke before and after marriage. A very common name, I have found. Welcome again!
- 63.252.223.109 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 02:22:35 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Patricia ~
Sending you a hug and a prayer, along with hearfelt condolences
- 64.229.233.9 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 02:22:52 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Will say "auf wiedersehen" and Bleib gesund. See you next Sunday night.
- 63.252.223.109 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 02:24:15 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Pat, my condolences on your loss. Our prayers are with you.
- 205.188.193.157 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 02:28:23 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Pat, Sorry to hear about your loss. Our prayers are with you also.
- 64.12.106.38 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 02:38:58 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi Pat. I am so sorry and share in your loss, tears and sadness. God Bless you and watch over you.
- 209.240.245.136 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 02:45:20 (UTC)
Trix:
Judy, Gottscheer Greetings from Minnesota and welcome. We look forward to sharing with you and hope you will do the same. From what area inthe former Gottschee might your family be? Enjoy the evening and feel free to chat and ask questions. Neat name, by the way.
- 209.240.245.136 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 02:46:39 (UTC)
Trix:
A quick note - the Olympic closing ceremonies are on and beautiful, of course. If anyone has any connection to the village of Tanzbüchel please let me know. Heard from the lone resident today and he sent some pretty neat photos of what it looks like now.
- 209.240.245.136 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 02:47:57 (UTC)
Trix:
Another quickie. If you have not yet ordered your copy of one of the GHGA's latest publications called GOTTSCHEE The Lost Culutural Heritage of the Gottscheer Germans by Mitja Ferenc (IN ENGLISH YET) consider doing it. It is excellent and contains much information that so many of you ask about all the time. Cost is $15.00 incudes S&H. A must for ever Gottscheer home.
- 209.240.245.136 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 02:53:43 (UTC)
patricia stonish warning:
thank you all for your prayers and condolences each and everyone of you
- 204.186.36.74 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 03:39:32 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO/ADIE JAKLITSCH:
DEAR PAT: OUR SINCERE CONDOLENCES.OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU. MAY GOD GIVE YOU STRENGTH.
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 04:32:28 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I have to start logging on early to catch everyone. I hope everyone had a great week and many more to come.
- 206.172.22.139 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 05:52:03 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Re: Günther Schauer of Moswald, Gottschee
Your help is requested in tracking down the children of the above-named Günther Schauer, who was born in Moswald, Gottschee. His last known residence was in Austria.
His aunt, Resi Tapperath, died last summer, and the attorney handling her estate is attempting to locate Günther Schauer (who may or may not be deceased) and his children, for the purpose of making final distribution of her estate. If you can help, please contact me at ridy@sympatico.ca
Thank you!
- 64.229.233.30 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 19:16:04 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
DEAR TRIX: PLEASE PARDON MY IGNORANCE, BUT. WILL YOU TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET THE NEW PUBLICATION YOU MENTIONED, IS THAT FROM PLAINVIEW? WILL APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE...THANK YOU....HAVE A GREAT WEEK...PAUL & ADIE
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 20:42:40 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi Paul. Wish you a good Monday. Send a check payable to GHGA for $18.00, including S & H to Kate Loschke Pruente, Treasurer of the GHGA at 21534 American River Drive, Sonora, CA 95370-9112. I know you will enjoy it.
I apologize for the mistake. The book is $15.00 plus $3.00 for S & H.
Have a great day Paul and thanks for your interest. We appreciate it.
- 209.240.237.136 - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 21:16:06 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
THANKS TRIX...GOOD AS DONE..........
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 04:52:59 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Does anyone know anything about tne surname "Bonge"? Is it a Gottscheer name?
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 23:50:29 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
By the way, has anyone heard from Sophia? Maybe she is on a trip,,,Sincerely hope all is well with her....
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 01:16:36 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi Paul. To the best of my knowledge (but know that I may know very little) Bonge is not a Gottscheer name. I checked the Ellis Island site and it appears to be a Norwegian name. Are you sure of the spelling?
- 209.240.245.109 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 01:18:06 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Thanks anyway Trix..Just curious..My sons wanted to know, and now they tell me that Mrs, Bonge looks like mommy' family//I had to tell them that Bonge is her married name. her husband is a Bonge..The man has passed a while ago..So now they are going to have to ask for Mrs Bonges' maiden name..Whatever, they know that she is a very nice lady, and that is what counts...Thanks for looking it up....
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 01:57:40 (UTC)
Trix:
Paul, thanks for checking up on me. I appreciate it. Hope you are doing well. Winter has returned to Minnesota. Darn it anyway. We have been spoiled. Take care und Gute Nacht.
- 209.240.245.109 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 05:15:37 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
TIME FOR ME TO CHECK OUT...I HAD ASKED ABOUT SOPHIA AND GOT YOUR ANSWER TRIX,,I AM CONFUSED, BUT AT MY AGE THAT IS EASY TO HAPPEN,,N.Y. WINTER NEVER GOT HERE..TODAY WAS A SHADE UNDER 60..AND WE ARE DOWN STATE..BUT I HAVE AN UNEASY FEELING WE ARE ABOUT TO PAY DEARLY FOR THE BREAK WE HAVE HAD.MY PREDICTION IS THE HEADLINES READING LATEST-FIERCEST WINTER IN HISTORY HITS THE EAST COAST...BRRRRRRRRRRRR,G'NITE
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 05:31:44 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
It is Wednesday..I just have to say this..The weather is still holding out..We had some heavy snow flakes, and I said to Adie, well my prediction is coming true,,I no sooner said that and it stopped! Now I ask you, was that aGottscheer good luck happening or what? If you think it is, then you must put it down in the archives,,,Adie just told me to tell you that I am completely nuts! See ya'ater..
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 20:17:13 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
That last line is "see ya' later"...Maybe Adie is right?
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 20:20:05 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hey Paul push some of that luck this way. I would sure like winter to go away now. It snowed here also. The weather won't make up its mind. I'm sure Trix knows what I mean.
- 206.172.22.221 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 21:27:07 (UTC)
Paul & Adie Brasino/Jaklitsch:
Hi Sophia-Wyants-Stalzer.....Just realized that I must have goofed...We are concerned that you should be OK......I don't mean to be hogging the Plauderzimmer...
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 21:32:49 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I didn't know that we can chat during the week. I thought this was only open on Sunday
- 206.172.22.221 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 21:40:39 (UTC)
Paul & Adie Brasino/Jaklitsch:
Sharon:I'll talk to the weather man for you, I heard a good report from an expert weather meteorologist, and he said that the good weather we are having is from "NATURAL" weather conditions..noy\thomg to do with Ninjo ir global warming and all that other scary stuff..Encouraging. I went out back and took a picture of that snow blast thatwe just had to remind me whrn we talk about it this summer...
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 21:45:36 (UTC)
Paul & Adie Brasino/Jaklitsch:
Sharon: I am no expert on this subject, but we can talk anytime, which also goes into the Plauderzimmer log, When I take a break from my work, or feel bored I get on and talk, even if noone is listening...Adie thinks I like ti hear myself talk..Maybe that's it?
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 21:49:33 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Your ok as long as you don't start answering yourself HA HA HA.
- 206.172.22.221 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 21:51:12 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I sent a message to someone new who is look for their relatives and told them about this chat line. I'm hoping they will check in and check it out.
- 206.172.22.221 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 21:53:20 (UTC)
Paul & Adie Brasino/Jaklitsch:
P.S Sunday is the Official get together day, at least that's the way I see it..Whatever, it is very nice to hear happenings-Gottscheer news and happenings...Love it from the first day I discovered it. Around the holidays it is great..This Christmas past, the Plauderzimmer chats brought me back to some very pleasant times during our marraige, with my sister in laws Emma Kren and Emily Rabuse, and just everybody in the family the food...the talk...the festivities...It was just great,,Brought me way back and revived my senses and I relived all those good memories which I will treasure until the end...And I thank everyone for that,,,,Paul
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 21:59:45 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Sounds really nice. Trix told me about this. She has been really helpful.
- 206.172.22.221 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 22:06:55 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Well I have to go, I'll try back later
Have a great night
- 206.172.22.221 - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 22:09:53 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
It's Friiiiiiiday! Start of another Gottscheer weekend...Anybody home? Just kidding..I know we all have things to do..Have a happy everyone...... I'm in a good mood, just got back from a great dinner...
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, March 02, 2002 at 04:13:38 (UTC)
Trix:
hi Paul. Just reading your happy note puts me in a good mood too. Tell me, what did you have with the dinner to make you so happy? Just kiddin'. Happy Saturday to you.
- 209.240.237.152 - Saturday, March 02, 2002 at 04:20:13 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
How are you Trix? Will you believe that I thought someone would have to think that... But those days very few these days,,Stomach does not like alcohol too much..Just an occasional Jagermeister, and a Kahlua in my cappuccino, But the meal was fantastic..One of our favorite Chinese resturants..Lobster Cantonese..Was extra special toniteThis is ou multi-Ethnic week...Italian Tues, German Thur, and tomorrow will be home cooked chicken..Anybody's guess what it will be Sunday..
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, March 02, 2002 at 05:01:43 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Boy, if I didn't know better, I would believe I was FULLY retired..But, I have to go to work for a while....Have a great Saturday everyone....
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, March 02, 2002 at 18:18:33 (UTC)
Paul brasino:
anybody home? Lorraine, are you going to try the Plaucerzimmer tonite or tomorrow? Be back in a while=am beating Tante Adie in poker,be back whrn she goes broke..
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, March 03, 2002 at 02:48:13 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi Paul. Just checking in and sure enough read your great message regarding the food. Chinese sounds just marvelous. Tomorrow, you ask? American, of course. Have a nice evening and hope you won a bundle.
- 209.240.245.105 - Sunday, March 03, 2002 at 03:31:54 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Hi Trix & Lorraine...Oh, I just remembered that you are going to that Polka Party Lorraine..I will call you tomorrow. Trix, you are right, it was american tonite in a way,,Went to the diner but Adie had chicken francaise and I had Veal Marsala..not bad...Sunday maybe German again in our favorite place..When I told Adie we should eat out again tonite, that chicken flew back in the fridge without wings. She was like super woman,,,whooosh!
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, March 03, 2002 at 04:26:34 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Oh, yes I did win, but I let her win the last hand so she would not have nightmares tonite---aint I good?
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, March 03, 2002 at 04:28:19 (UTC)
Paul:
Gute Nacht...Have a great Sunday
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, March 03, 2002 at 05:27:53 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Wow Paul you sure like alot of different food. I'm all chinesed out. I work in a restuarant that serves Chinese food. After awhile you get sick of eating it. I made pork side ribs the other night and they were great. Tomorrow I'll try to get online early but might not be until after 10PM cst. Hope to catch you all.
- 199.243.211.138 - Sunday, March 03, 2002 at 06:56:50 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I hope everyone had a good weekend.
- 199.243.211.138 - Sunday, March 03, 2002 at 06:57:58 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Hello and good Sunday everyone...Be on later..lots of office work to do today...And Sharon, we like most every kind of food, as long as it is good....I guess everybody has a favorite kind and a favorite place to go for it..And you are right about getting tired of one kind if you eat it too often..Diversity is the game....See ya' later.......
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, March 03, 2002 at 15:18:38 (UTC)
Paul & Adie:
O.K. Lorraine..I Called, but you are out.I am telling you this, just in case you do geton the Plauderzimmer tonite,, I am making your Tante Somr sauteed lobster tail chopped up and cooked in capellini..sound good? Fly up and we'll save you a portion! Trying to catch up on my paper work in anticipation to leave for A/C by the end of the week..Love ya'...Uncle Paul
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, March 03, 2002 at 20:07:19 (UTC)
Trix:
OK Paul, where is A/C? Hope you will have a wonderful time.
- 209.240.245.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 00:28:52 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Hi Trix, A/C is Noo Yawk for Atlantic City, New jersey..Gonna go for a little well deserved R&R....Rest alittle, gamble a little, and eat a lot....Adie and I are really hurting for spme time off..We haven't been away for a long time for one reason or another and we are way overdue...Have you ever been there?
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 01:11:42 (UTC)
Trix:
Hi Paul. Thank for telling all of us what AC is. Now we know. Like I said, have a great time, win a lot and enjoy the food. (here we go already, a favorite topic for the Plauderzimmer just about every Sunday). Believe it or not I have been to AC but before it became a gambling city. Actually my husband was a Minnesota delegate to the National Democratic Convention in 1964. It was the year after the assassination of President Kennedy. It was a very emotional time for all of us. The Kennedy family hosted a reception for all delegates. Standing in the receiving line while we were there included Mrs. Kennedy, Eunice Shriver, Ted Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy. We enjoyed the boardwalk and walked it every night. It was a very special time for us as we enjoyed and still enjoy our work in the political arena.
- 209.240.245.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:13:07 (UTC)
Franz Mausser:
Just wanted to check if anyone is around. Have to turn in, just came in from a cold ski trip in Montana.
- 65.227.59.146 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:32:27 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Anyone in the chat room.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:36:14 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
been slim pickens on Sunday night. Thought it might pick up after the Olympics.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:39:04 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello anyone home?
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:40:35 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Hi, Marilu. How are you doing?
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:41:38 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim, things are going fine. And you? It has been a busy research weekend for me. Lots of good things.
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:42:35 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Grüß Euch Gott, Alle miteinander!
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:42:40 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all are well. Very cold in KCMO. KU beat MU today. Don't know if anyone on line now cares.
- 63.252.221.11 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:42:44 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Franz -- if you're still on -- thanks for your note and $$. Hope the slopes in Montana were friendly!
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:43:43 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
The gang is gathering! Hello
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:43:46 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Margaret, it is not the Chiefs but the Jayhawks always seem to have a good team. How are they doing this year? Hello, Ridy.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:44:11 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I think Franz is nursing a sore body from schilaufengehen. Those old bones. Everytime I play basketball I know what my buddy, Michael Jordan, goes through. :)
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:45:19 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Paul B: The terrible cold here in KCMO has brought out the "comfort food". Our dinner was pork ribs, sauerkraut, and kartoffel (?). Makes you feel so good. Reminds me of the food we ate as children that our grossmutter cooked.
- 63.252.221.11 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:45:27 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I would not even try skiing, never have done it and I like my bones all in one piece.
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:46:07 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Jayhawks are doing GREAT! The Big 12 has not been much of a challenge for them. Chiefs are struggling to make up a team for next year and observe the salary cap. Royals open on April 1ar - April Fool's Day.
- 63.252.221.11 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:47:12 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Don't know how long I'll last this evening. The kids were here for dinner, which means this old gal is mighty tired! But it's the best tired I can think of. It's been a weird weather day here, for anyone looking for a weather report. This morning we woke up to beautiful warm sunshine, and you could smell spring in the air. By evening we're down to 22°F and it feels a lot colder. Somebody up there is playing jokes on us this winter!
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:48:06 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Ridy, you sent that weather pattern straight to us. In the sixties this am and now heading into the thirties. Finally got some rain.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:50:15 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Just thinking about Franz skiiiiiing down those mountainsides and Jim shooting for the hoops makes me get muscle spasms in my creaky old back! Cut it out!
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:50:40 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Had salmon with Italian seasonings, rice pilaf, fresh spinach and a salad with a glass of California chardonnay.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:51:11 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We had four inches of snow on Friday and it was almost zero the last two nights, but has been between 40 and 50 during the day.
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:51:56 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
It rained here all night, but I didn't mind that, because the grass suddenly turned green overnight. Bet those tender little shoots are sorry now that they decided to wake up from their winter sleep.
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:52:07 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Only thing missing was a nice fire glowing in the fireplace. During the week it is catch as catch can as the school activities stretch the day out. No haute cuisine from Monday to Friday.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:52:28 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Meerilu: Be patient. Spring is not far behind. We will be glad to see this winter go, what with the ice storm and so much damage. The cold makes us yearn for spring.
- 63.252.221.11 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:53:07 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Spring will come soon. The bulbs are already up and running. The forsythias and some trees have buds on them. I hope we don't have a prolonged cold snap.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:53:46 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I was going to run to the kitchen and check the empty bottle so that I could tell you what we were drinking with dinner, Jim, but then again, I decided I wouldn't. It was good while it lasted.
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:53:59 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim My son took us to one of those haute cuisine places in Denver for my birthday..I thought of you!
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:54:18 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: We have a few of those "impatient little shoots" in our yard, too. They got their noses pinched by the cold this week-end.
- 63.252.221.11 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:54:27 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Margaret, I am not really complaining, we need the moisture here.
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:55:17 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Marilu -- don't tell me you also have a birthday at this time of year?! Which reminds me. . . .
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HOLLY!!!
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:55:32 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Must go. Auf wiedersehen. Alles gute. Bleib gesund.
- 63.252.221.11 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:57:26 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes Ridy does that mean yours is also.
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 02:58:36 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
My goodness, we missed your birthday in the chat room --- happy birthday!!!! Too busy giving flowers to the wife.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:00:49 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Valentine's Day for me, Marilu. . . . and Trix comes just days after me
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:01:23 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Mine was actually the end of January, but we have missed a lot of chatting lately in here.
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:02:41 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Well, you're a fellow Aquarian. . . .I should have known!
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:04:43 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, I was thinking the same thing about you!
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:05:36 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
It seems we have blown by quite a few momentous occasions. Happy Birthday wishes to all and many more as we get better with age like fine whines.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:06:27 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
fine whines, eh? Some Freudian slip that is!
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:07:45 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lololol I wondered about that too!
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:09:10 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
no slip, just wanted to see if you were watching me carefully.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:12:43 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Is anyone still collecting Beanie babies? Christopher left the cutest little kitten beanie baby on my monitor today. No wonder they were such a rage for a while!
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:12:45 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
the messages are going across slowly. Are you having any problems?
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:13:11 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
We gave up a while ago on the beanies. They are cute but the company started to play games too many times so we stopped.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:14:00 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
No slowdown at this end tonight. However, we had a long blackout today, and that sure slowed things down for a while! Christopher cleaned up my desktop while he was here - maybe that helped improve the speed a bit.
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:15:02 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I never collected them. Just got the fox for Wücksch'sch (or however that's written) and the one the Blue Jays put out. I like this kitten best!
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:16:50 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I never did get into those beanie babies..I collect way too many other things!
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:17:12 (UTC)
Trix:
Good Evening one and all. It just would not be a good chat room without food. Love it. Like it even better when someone does the cooking. Looks like you are all doing pretty well, including you Ridy. Takes energy to cook big meals anymore, doesn't it? Here too. Imagine Chicago Franz skiing. Boy, I haven't done that for years. Good for you Franz. Very, very cold at Waukenabo. Had -15°F this morning, the sun was out but a cold north wind. It certainly never warmed up much. We are spoiled rotten in this is now tough to take. I agree though, spring is not all that far away.
- 209.240.245.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:18:01 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
I know what you mean, Marilu. I'm thinking it's time I had a big garage sale!
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:18:36 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
But Ridy, I can't part with most of it! lol
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:20:48 (UTC)
Trix:
Received an e-mail from the UP of Michigan. This fellow came over on the same boat as we did in 1952. We have connected because of the web site and have had so much fun communicating with each other. He wrote that since yesterday they have received 30 inches of snow and still coming down heavy. Wondered how much we got. Hated to tell him zero as it went to the south. Chicago looked pretty nasty too.
- 209.240.245.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:20:55 (UTC)
Trix:
Dr. Jim. You have been a busy genealogist haven't you? So much joy for so many. Good for you!!!
- 209.240.245.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:21:48 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Oh, Marilu! That's the story of my life! I am the original packrat!
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:22:55 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
That reminds me, Jim -- Did I send you the descriptions to the photos I sent you today?
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:23:47 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
My fingers are cramping from dancing through one family and the next. Good fun. Nice crossword puzzles.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:23:59 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I posted some marriages from Sugar Creek Clinto Co Iowa today, and had an answer from one gal who said she had been searching eons for her grandfather, and it was in the ones I posted. Makes me happy too.
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:25:05 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Cute Jim, real cute! Do you also do limmericks?
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:25:46 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
you sent a couple of names. I enjoy looking at the pictures but don't put them in the file. The file is too big as it is and the pictures would make it huge. It already takes up 4+ floppy discs to back it up. I have the CD burner up and running so I hope to try that one of these days.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:25:51 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
No poems for me at this age. Used to do some in younger times when I was more inspired or more tolerant of bad rhymes. Now I am too critical.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:26:56 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Yes - I got orders today to put some of my files on CDs. With my memory, I'll probably forget where I put the CDs. . . but I shall give it a shot one of these days.
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:27:52 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Who dares to give the Pulitzer prize winning author orders? What audacity!!
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:28:57 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
You should try limericks - they're certainly on the lowest end of the totem pole when it comes to poetry, but they're fun!
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:30:52 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Yeah -- I've been checking my quotes, making sure I gave credit where credit is due!
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:31:58 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
ZZzzzz. . . .I think I had better hit the sack before I fall asleep at the computer.
Good night all, and keep in touch! Keep warm!
- 64.229.238.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:34:15 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Sounds like a clue. Goodnight everyone.
- 152.163.205.66 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:35:40 (UTC)
Trix:
Good idea Ridy. Good night one and all. Greetings to all the regulars who could not join us tonight. Have a good week and think happy thoughts. Thinking of you too Cook Islands Richard.
- 209.240.245.111 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:35:46 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Good night and have a good week.
- 64.12.102.33 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 03:39:38 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
WELL, IGUESS I MISSED EVERYONE TONITE.I GOT SO INVOLVED IN MY PAPER WORK, AND THAT I GOT INTO ALIAS, AND THE TIME FLEW RIGHT INTO THE PRACTICE, AND MY SON came home from"A/C", and of course I had to hear all the chances he missed to just becoming a millioner..same ole same ole..Been there, done that..But I will still go this coming weekend anywaSo I wish everyine a good week.i wish i had been on, and i would have brought up the food talk and I know it would have gotten everyone going. We can save it for Easter, and bring up all the KREINERWURST stories..Good Night zzzzzzzzzzzz
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 04:29:09 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Sorry I couldn't get on sooner. Hope everyone had fun tonight.
Hey Ridy you and I share the same birthday. Happy belated Birthday.
I'll try tomorrow afternoon after work to see if anyone is on. Night all.
- 206.172.22.191 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 04:50:09 (UTC)
Heinrich Stalzer:
Gruessgot! Anybody know when, or if, Pula or Pola, was part of Austria? Both my granfather and father where from there, and his numerous uncles! They were emoployees and/or members of the navy.
I have a simple question, if you please. When was this port city part of Austria, or Italy. I believe it was part of Jugoslavia from 1917 til 1995.
By the way, the last Stalzer in Pula passed away in 1999. In his spare time, he ooperated a speed-boat taking tourists for a thrill ride in the Adriatic.
Heinrich
- 68.63.112.80 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 09:40:38 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Dear Heinrich,
I did a little research on the end of the Austrian navy after WW I. The ships were given over to the Allies with most, if not all, consigned to the scrap heap by the 1920s. Pula was taken over by the Italians during or right after the war (1915 or later) and returned to Yugoslavian control in 1947. It is now part of Croatia. I have heard that there is a Roman amphitheatre that is worth seeing.
- 152.163.194.209 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 15:58:28 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
The following is a Web site that might be worth checking out -----http://www.croatia.net/pula/html/history.html .
- 152.163.194.209 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 16:03:47 (UTC)
Holly Leers Droese:
Hi everyone,
I can't believe I missed all these girls birthdays. Happy Belated birthday to all of you.
Patricia, my heart goes out to you as I lost my husband last June. If you need to "talk", I am here for you.
Jim has been busy sending me lots of e-mails about my special interests in Tschermoschnitz and Pollandl. I am trying to work on them but things go slowly. Returned home from Bonaire on Saturday. Today about 6 inches of snow. What a contrast.
Miss you all.
- 209.176.66.47 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 17:06:23 (UTC)
Birgit Hostert Kraker:
Jim Heimann
Hallo Jim,leider habe ich deine Nachricht vom November erst jetzt gelesen.Welche Info möchtest du genau haben.Wie du sicherlich weist gab es sehr viel Hoegler's und Kraker's in Gottschee.Der Rudolf Hoegler wohnt zur Zeit in Deutschland fährt aber sehr oft in sein Haus nach Pula.Im Sommer möchte er mit seiner Familie wieder ganz nach Pula auswandern.Bitte melde dich damit ich dir weitere Info geben kann.
Goodbye from Germany
- 195.93.66.173 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 19:38:33 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Does anyone else have a large gap in between convesations? My screen shows a very large space.
- 199.243.211.135 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 21:17:35 (UTC)
Paul B:
Hi Sharon.:ooks like iwas not the only one to miss last nites' conversations...Got a little spare time just now so I will be on for A BIT.. i HAVE A LARGE SPACE ON MY MACHINE TOO..hAVE NO IDEA WHY..mAYBE ONE MESSAGE DID NOT GO COMPLETELY THRU, OR WHO KNOWS? hOPE ALL IS WELL WITH YOU. i WISH YOU COULD RELAY A BOWL OF WANTON SOUP AND EGG ROLL FROM YOUR WORK PLACE-----hungry----
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 22:20:03 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I'll send over a large bowl of Wonton Soup and if you wait until tomorrow I'm making egg rolls. Enjoy
- 206.172.22.237 - Tuesday, March 05, 2002 at 01:12:04 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Birgit Hostert Kraker:
Birgit ~ Jim Heimann hat mich gebeten Dir zu antworten. Er kann sich leider nicht mehr erinnern was er Dir im November geschrieben hat. Würdest Du bitte so lieb sein und die e-mail zu mir schicken, oder wenn Du seine e-mail Addresse hast, schick sie direkt an ihm, damit er sehen kann um was es sich gehandelt hat. Ich bin ihm beim übersetzen behilflich. Meine e-mail Addresse ist ridy@sympatico.ca
Liebe Grüße,
Ridy
- 64.229.233.238 - Tuesday, March 05, 2002 at 02:37:36 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
To Sharon -- I hope you also deliver to Toronto. I'd like a half a dozen egg rolls, please.
Thank you for your birthday wishes -- and the same to you! We'll have to try to remember that next year. . . .
- 64.229.233.238 - Tuesday, March 05, 2002 at 02:39:57 (UTC)
Paul B:
Hey you guys..as long as you are celebrating birthdays, put mine in the list for Fri, 3/8/02..Just don't ask me how old I am!That is one of the reasons i was preparing to go to A/C, now I am not sure if I am going to make it after all..Wish you all Happy Birthday and have a great week...I will be waiting for the egg roll by the way.....
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, March 05, 2002 at 04:15:02 (UTC)
Trix:
Sharon, it is unanimous. Egg Rolls, Wanton Soup, Fong Wong Chicken and maybe some Shrimp Egg Foo Y---. Love Chinese food too.
Paul an early Happy Birthday and Sharon the same to you.
- 209.240.245.169 - Tuesday, March 05, 2002 at 05:01:03 (UTC)
Paul B:
Thanks and happy whatever to everyone...But I have to ask this: Whatis Fong Wong Chicken? I thought I knew them all, but that is a new one on me..And I love chicken in every style.
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, March 05, 2002 at 15:02:41 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Fong Wong Chicken is a marinated chicken chunks that is later covered with fish paste with julienned carrots and celery then deep fried in wok or deep fryer until golden brown. It really depends on the restuarants perfernce though. Some places do something different but will call it the same thing.
- 206.172.22.36 - Tuesday, March 05, 2002 at 21:31:45 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
look at egg foo young. Its really a chinese omlette that has beef gravy on top. Its really weird but tasty.
- 206.172.22.36 - Tuesday, March 05, 2002 at 21:33:39 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Trix if you ever go to the falls, you'll have to come to the Red Dog Inn for chinese or try our Prime rib. Its awesome.
- 206.172.22.36 - Tuesday, March 05, 2002 at 21:34:51 (UTC)
Paul B.:
Well it looks as though we are all getting in our licks for the best Chinese food and where to go for it..We should set up some kind of tour of all these places..I miss a dish that they called Loong Har Yook Soong, which I used to love and show off whenever I ordered it...Untill one day a waiter said to me "Oh, you mean Lobster Soong-just say lobster soong." And to make matters worst, I could never find it anywhere any more, no matter what I called it. I WANT LOONG HAR YOOK SOONG!!!!!!!!
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, March 05, 2002 at 23:27:14 (UTC)
PAUL B:
SHARON...WHAT IS FISH PASTE? AND IT REALLY GOES WITH CHICKEN? fISH IS ANOTHER FAVORITE OF MINE.
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, March 06, 2002 at 00:52:15 (UTC)
PaulBrasino:
'Bye for awhile..Gonna' have my dessert and watch boob tube until 11:15 P.M. and then come back on the P.C. to see what's doing...... Enjoy your evening....
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, March 06, 2002 at 01:48:42 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I don't know whats in fish paste because we don't have those type of dishes on our menu. The restuarant is a canadian with a small menu of chinese dishes. We have more like a buffet type menu. We had talk about different chinese food one day so that is how I knew about Fong Wong chicken. People here really like the basic chinese food, chicken balls shrimp fried rice etc. I prefer to eat Canadian food over chinese. To much MSG is unhealthy for Canadians compared to Chinese people. It leads to heart disease.
- 199.243.211.152 - Wednesday, March 06, 2002 at 07:37:00 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Paul ever tried Chinese Walleye? Its basically fresh ginger chopped with Osyter sauce, MSG, salt, sugar, little soya steamed with fresh walleye filets. I think our chinese cooks made it up one day but we ran it as a special and people liked.
- 199.243.211.152 - Wednesday, March 06, 2002 at 07:40:26 (UTC)
Paul B:
Sharon: Walleye sounds delicious I am going to type it up and give it to my one favorite Chinese place... I have eaten whole bass and other fish dishes-always good, See Ya'ater..
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, March 06, 2002 at 16:03:51 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Sharon: Let me spend the next few minutes of my break with a fewquestions please..I was surprised to hear about the MSG and heart disease...Please tell me what Canadian food is since I am not so worldly..If I ever get up there, which I really would like to do someday=then I will be prepared.New York has every kind of food imaginable probably from every part of the world..That does not mean that I like them all,or that my stomach can take them all. All I know about Canadian food is Canadian Bacon, and my Gottscheer nephew had to introduce it to me!
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, March 06, 2002 at 19:01:03 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Canadian food is the same as American food. We cook things like burger,Prime rib, steaks, salads of course etc. A majority of people her go hunting in the fall for Moose, Deer and Partridge. Partridge taste better than chicken. Its more juicier. I don't care for Moose or Deer. I like walleye though. I'll spend most of the summer fishing if I'm not working.
Many people think that MSG is to enhance the flavor of food but it really doesn't. It is really used for prolonging the keep of food longer.
- 199.243.211.131 - Wednesday, March 06, 2002 at 19:42:35 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I looked up on MSG at the following web site. http://city.chatham-kent.on.ca/healthunit/msg.htm. It pretty much gave a list of side affects some people get from it. It all depends on your body and how you take care of it. Everyone is different so they react differently from other people. Food without MSG taste the same as with it. I've had both and you can't tell the difference. Alot of people order food without it. Alot of package food you buy at grocery stores have MSG. You would look at the ingredients and notice it in gravy bases and products that have salt and that in them. Next time you go to a grocery store check the products. You'll notice alot of foods have it. In Canada by law they have to list everything in products starting with the most percentage of a substance to the least. For example pop it states carbonated water as the first ingredient so that means that it has more carbonated water then everything else.
- 199.243.211.131 - Wednesday, March 06, 2002 at 20:01:13 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
you know for a canadian I really don't like canadian bacon. I prefer honey maple roasted bacon. The stuff we have for canadian bacon is strong tasting. I rather have plain old ham.
- 199.243.211.131 - Wednesday, March 06, 2002 at 20:05:24 (UTC)
Paul B:
I've got a couple of minutes(stolen minutes) My trouble Sharon is that I like most everything..but everything does not like me...I know that stuff about the MSG as an Flavor Enhancer-I kinda think it is like salt..And now I remember when i was in the restaurant business, I bought a box or can--it was in a blue container..never used it, and I can't say why...And as far as prepared food..that is the stuff in stores thatyou really have to be wary of..But once in a while it is OK,,,Like yousaid, read the ingredients..been doing it for years...I envy the people who can eat everything and never get sick or gain an ounce..Take Adie for example-she eats butter smeared heavily on veggies and bread....eats all the fat on meat..and guess what, her cholestorol is perfect..not border line, but absolutely PERFECT! Dr. says here body enzymes take care of it..I should be so lucky...Gotta get back to work..Thanks for your expose'. Maybe I can get back on later.....Regards...
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, March 06, 2002 at 21:03:54 (UTC)
Paul B:
Hello....Anyone here? Just got done..or maybe I should say just quit--the work is never really done.If anyone is on, fine..If not have a pleasant evening everyone....
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, March 07, 2002 at 00:18:58 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Hi Trix: Just read that piece you wrote about A/C in the 60s....The sad truth is that you would not want to walk the Boardwalk at night anymore..I have not ventured out at night anymore-not even to go next door to Ceasers which is right next door to where we stay...too bad isn't it? I was going to go this weekend, but I changed my mind, and the kids are coming over for my birthday,Family first is my motto...Adie will make stuffed cabbages Sunday,,the kids love them too, so she'll be making a ton of them...Wish you well..Stay warm....Paul/Adie
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, March 07, 2002 at 05:34:03 (UTC)
Paul B.:
Hi Ridy --Belated Birthday good wishes to you..My Nephew Johh Rabuse is going on a cruise and just told me that some friend from Toronto is going too,I thought wouldn't that be something if it turned out to be you...He is the son of Emily And Johnny Rabuse,Nettie and Richie Knew them..
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, March 07, 2002 at 06:02:57 (UTC)
Trix:
Good Morning Paul. Just checking in and enjoyed reading all the messages. Would love a helping of cabbage rolls. Love them but never make them.
Sad indeed to hear about what has happened to A/C. A huge crisis throughout the land and that is very sad. Needs to be changed!
Enjoy the day and think happy thoughts.
- 209.240.245.171 - Thursday, March 07, 2002 at 14:55:53 (UTC)
Paul B:
Good Morning to you Trix...Just can't help putting in a few words before I start my work day...Cabbage Rolls? Isn't it interesting how in different parts of the country has its'own name for things? A stuffefd cabbage by any other name is still delicious, right? I love them too, but I always over-eat them, and boy do I pay!If we really stay home this weekend instead of going to A/C, which it looks that way right now-still up in the air==anyway I will over=eat no matter how I try to control myself..Hope to find time to get back on later..Nice hearing from you..Have a wonderful day
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, March 07, 2002 at 17:16:23 (UTC)
Paul B.:
Good evening..anyone about? Must get off by 9:00 P.M. to watch Millionaire.Want to see how dumb I am in answering their questions......Went Chinese again-just got back-Imust be on a roll---egg roll, that is!
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, March 08, 2002 at 01:32:34 (UTC)
PaulB.:
Hi Trix..Iwas just reading over what you said about the changes when we were discussing Atlantic City..We just can.t win..When they built it up, it wa supposed to be a blessing..The blighted areas were going to be replaced and there was going to be employment opportunities..In some instances they were right..but there is always a down side.. In this case in addition what there allready was, came a new prpblem..Peaple went for the glitz and entertainment and then came the addiction to gambling which ruined and still is ruining a lot of lives...In the same token, ther was employment abound,,, There are still blighted areas and many ruined families..You just can't have a win-win..Shame, isn't it? Be back later...Regards
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, March 08, 2002 at 01:59:32 (UTC)
Trix:
A FOLLOW UP to a December 21, 2001 posting regarding house No. 7 in the village of Kuntschen. Want "Somebody" who posted the message to know that the resident of No. 7 was a Franz Mische. If any questions please post a message. Thank youi.
- 209.240.237.148 - Friday, March 08, 2002 at 02:57:08 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Oh look it snowed again, and its all my fault. Actually I'm blaming the Hubby. He said to shovel the driveway. Everytime I shovel, it snows. Thats it, I'm not shovelling for the rest of winter.
Hope everyone has great weekend.
- 206.172.22.26 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 06:23:38 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Good Morning, it's 7:12 am EST and I'm checking to see if this page is working yet.
- 205.188.196.47 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 12:12:54 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Good Morning, it's 7:12 am EST and I'm checking to see if this page is working yet.
- 205.188.196.47 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 12:20:02 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Good Morning, it's 7:12 am EST and I'm checking to see if this page is working yet.
- 205.188.196.47 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 12:21:44 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Good Morning, it's 7:12 am EST and I'm checking to see if this page is working yet.
- 205.188.196.47 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 12:23:55 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Sorry, I'm new to this site and I wasn't aware that by going back to this website, I repeat my previous message.
- 205.188.196.47 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 12:25:40 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Russell:
Officially this chat room is open on Sunday evenings from 9:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. It's a place where anyone with roots in Gottschee can come an chat. Unofficially, some of us post messages here at any time during the week.
Hope you'll join us this evening!
- 64.229.235.65 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 13:04:13 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Good Morning, it's 7:12 am EST and I'm checking to see if this page is working yet.
- 209.240.222.131 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 16:44:42 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Sorry. I didn't mean to post the same thing over and over. It seems that every time I enter the site, the last message I posted is reposted. I should be on later this evening at 9PM EST
- 209.240.222.132 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 16:49:09 (UTC)
sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi Russell
Glad to see that your joining us. Evertime you hit the grey toolbar below it will show the same message unless someone has entered a message.
- 206.172.22.120 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 17:29:32 (UTC)
sharon Eisenzopf:
I won't be on until after 10 pm cst. I have to work until 10pm. I hope you have fun here tonight. I hope my computer will be available when I get home tonight or somebody will be getting kicked off HA HA HA..
- 206.172.22.120 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 17:32:29 (UTC)
sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi trix
I went to genealogy.com and noticed that someone from I think Austria left a message saying that there was message in their newspaper looking for my relatives. I am assuming you placed the ad. Thanks for doing that for me. Its kinda hard for me to place it since I don't speak or write German. Hows the snow there?
- 206.172.22.120 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 17:36:29 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi Russell I went back into the Eisenzopf message board and saw that you posted a follow up message. Your relative Josef and my relative John are not brothers, because Josef parents moved to the US a few years after he was born and my Grandfather John was born in Katzendorf area in 1898 and his parents died in the same area. His Father died when he was about 7 or 8. But who is not to say that they were cousins. I'm also interested in other Eisenzopfs who were in the Italy area and worked in the Royal Courts if you happen have any information you would like to share.
- 206.172.22.211 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 17:54:43 (UTC)
Trix:
Good Morning Ridy, Sharon and Russell. Nice to see your activities and to follow your conversations and exchanges. Russell, don't worry, you will have no problem at all understanding how this all works. Believe, it takes one to know one. If I can figure it out (and I did) ANYONE can do it.
Sharon, regarding your question about the snow. We had a very, very nasty day yesterday. Had about 7 inches on top of Friday's 8 inches and then the 40 mph winds arrived. It was a day of real blizzard conditions, white-outs, -35 windchill leaving huge, "hard as a rock" drifts. After inspecting the area this morning decided it will be the first time in 36 years that I will not be shoveling our long sidewalk. I will let mother nature melt it away and instead will navigate zig zag through the yard to get to where I need to go. Enough is enough. Tell yours husband not to ask you to shovel any more. If your theory holds true that would mean no more snow for the rest of the month.
Hope to chat tonight. Enjoy the day and everyone think happy thoughts.
- 216.251.169.29 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 18:48:47 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
I won't be on Sunday night until either 10 or 11 PM. On CBS-TV tonight is a special on 9/11. As a New Yorker, I feel I have to see it. So, I'll be on after that program is over.
- 64.12.96.75 - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 23:32:06 (UTC)
Andreas (Andrew) Stritzel:
Hello an alle lieben Gottscheer. Ich bin in Krapflern bei Pollandl geboren. Habe unsere alte Heimat in juni 2002 besucht.Es ist wircklich schade das unsere liebe Heimat für immer verloren ging. Liebe Grüsse aus Los Angeles!!!
- 209.240.222.130 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 00:23:37 (UTC)
Ridy:
Grüß Dich, Andreas!
Bist Du mit den Stritzels in Toronto verwandt?
- 64.229.237.47 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 00:32:28 (UTC)
Helmuth:
Hi everyone, a copy of this message also appears in the Gottschee Bulletin Board.
A few of you have asked about how this site is supported. I appreciate the fact that you have asked and that you get value from this site.
Since its inception, I have paid a flat monthly cost of about $40 for the site and have absorbed it. The main reason is that I use the site for not only web hosting but other personally fulfilling 'geekie' activities such as ftp, file repository, UNIX application testing, comp.* newsgroups and the like.
You will never see any advertising banners on this site. It probably needs a facelift; one of these days I will get to it or perhaps a volunteer will step forward???.
Thanks for your interest and continue to use the site. If it ever gets to the point that file or web utilization exceeds what I get for the flat rate, I will solicit for contributions, but I don't think that's happening anytime soon.
- 209.114.157.247 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 01:24:08 (UTC)
Ridy:
Thanks, Helmuth! I think all of us worry from time to time that we are overusing this site. You are very generous to make it available to us at no cost, but I'm sure all the chat room regulars would be happy to chip in from time to time, especially when we go over the limit.
WHAT? You're considering a facelift for the site?! Please don't! So many of us are well past the stage of learning new tricks (OK, OK, I speak for myself!) and we've just mastered how to use this one. Remember the KISS principle -- and the other one which says: If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Thanks, Helmuth! Your generosity is greatly appreciated. (And $40 a month ain't chickenfeed!)
- 64.229.237.47 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 01:44:58 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
just stopping in to say hello, How is everyone?
- 205.188.193.177 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 02:25:20 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Hi Jim ~
Just had to stop watching 9/11 on CBS. The reality of it all is just too disturbing. . . .it was disturbing on 9/11 and it's just too soon to watch it again. Actually, I never want to see it again. It's bad enough thinking about it, as I'm sure we all still do and forever will, but seeing it again is just too hard on me.
- 64.229.237.47 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 02:50:32 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello Jim and Ridy Are you still on.
- 64.12.96.203 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:21:56 (UTC)
Ridy:
Yes, I just checked back again.
- 64.229.237.47 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:23:32 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
How are things in your neck of the woods tonite?? We had abeautiful day here in Colorado.
- 64.12.96.7 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:25:24 (UTC)
Ridy:
We've had some truly bizarre weather this weekend. Up to 64°F yesterday, then down to well below freezing overnight, and it never got above freezing today. We even had a dusting of snow overnight. But by far the worst was the wind -- that was bad. It has finally left this area, and all our trees are still standing. I was beginning to wonder!
- 64.229.237.47 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:29:23 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
You are probably getting the same wind we had thursday and Friday. It was terrible here also.
- 64.12.96.43 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:31:35 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
You are probably getting the same wind we had thursday and Friday. It was terrible here also.
- 64.12.96.43 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:34:32 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
OOOppps did not mean to send that twice!!
- 64.12.96.39 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:35:06 (UTC)
Ridy:
Do you realize it will be Easter in three weeks? It's early this year. I'm already starting to think about what I have to do in preparation! Seems to me we just had Christmas!
- 64.229.237.47 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:35:16 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy Time is flying by way too fast for me! I can't believe it is almost the middle of March already. Do you have any Gottscheer traditions for Easter.
- 64.12.96.168 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:37:51 (UTC)
Ridy:
Oh my yes! Gottschee had wonderful traditions, many of which I covered in the book. What is so interesting that people are actually calling to tell me about other traditions with which I was not familiar. One lady told me they saved all the shells from their Easter eggs, crumbled them up, and spread them all around the house to keep the snakes out! I had never heard of that before, and I certainly never saw any when I was a child. However, everyone was afraid of them! My favorite tradition was the blessing of the food.
- 64.229.237.47 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:41:50 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, I will have to go back reread your book. It has been while since I read it. Do you still do the blessing of the food.
- 64.12.96.206 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:42:58 (UTC)
Ridy:
That was done in church, on Saturday afternoon. Our church here tried it a couple of years, a rather watered down version, but it didn't catch on. Too bad. It was a lovely tradition.
- 64.229.237.47 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:45:01 (UTC)
Ridy:
Toronto has a very multicultural population, and we all bring our own traditions with us. Some are accepted here and others just simply fade away.
- 64.229.237.47 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:46:52 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I think I read about the blessing of food on a Slovenian site also.
- 64.12.96.169 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:46:56 (UTC)
Ridy:
Yes, I'm sure you would have read it there. It's really very much a European custom.
- 64.229.237.47 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:47:47 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well Ridy I think everyone else has decided to stay away tonite. I think it is time to say goodnight also.
- 64.12.97.12 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:48:15 (UTC)
Ridy:
Good night, Marilu. Stay warm!
- 64.229.237.47 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 03:49:26 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
Hello everyone. I'm glad the wind has died down. What a storm. I almost attached a large board to the front of the 4-wheeler to plow some of the snow, but instead our neighbour came over with his snowblower. Thank goodness. They say the weather is suppose to warm up.
Yes Easter is only 3 weeks away. I'm trying to get my Ukrainian eggs finished in time. I brought out all the Easter decorations. Can't have Easter without all the pastal colours.
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:18:00 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Good Morning, it's 7:12 am EST and I'm checking to see if this page is working yet.
- 209.240.222.131 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:23:50 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Actually it's 1125 PM Good evening
- 209.240.222.132 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:24:49 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
hello Russell
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:26:57 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
have you caught on to how to use this page yet?
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:27:32 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
how are you doing on the family research?
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:28:45 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
I guess I missed the chat session. I'll try again next time.
- 209.240.222.130 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:28:46 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
I have to ask my mother again about survining relatives. Then I have to start asking them. And this page is something else to handle.
- 209.240.222.32 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:30:31 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
I noticed that there is alot of eisenzopf scattered across the US
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:31:44 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
I have obtained addresses from Eisenzopf in the US through the internet.
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:32:50 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
I not sure if you know to keep clicking the toolbar that says "send your message or check for new messages" You will see new messages by doing that.
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:34:13 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
I have been able to use the toolbar to look up new messages. But when I return to the site, I usually have my last message reprinted. I had that happen a few times earlier. But I'm getting used to it. I have to look up the Eisenzopf addresses I have and contact them.
- 209.240.222.32 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:41:13 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Good Morning, it's 7:12 am EST and I'm checking to see if this page is working yet.
- 209.240.222.131 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:41:33 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
whoops!
- 209.240.222.131 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:41:52 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
the site keeps a log on the screen. I can close out and my message will be there when I come back.
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:43:48 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
but I can't understand why it would reprint the same message you had on way earlier.
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:44:52 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
So does your Mother have any paper trail regarding her Father's side. Pictures are worth a thousand words. My pictures have helped some and will probably when I find a solid connection
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:46:59 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
It happens I guess. Once I figure out how hs thing works, I won't be repeating myself.
- 209.240.222.131 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:47:23 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
My mother has some papers and photos. have to ask her again.
- 209.240.222.132 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:48:39 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
Photocopy those documents so you have them on hand when you need them.
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:49:19 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
I can share some pictures with you if you like. The men on my Father's side look alike.
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:50:11 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
when I was researching I did know about Gottschee, then when I went back through the pictures, on the back of one I found the word Gottschee.
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:51:25 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
I have found my grandparents passports so that gave my a small lead but the passports are in Yugoslavian. So its hard to understand some of it.
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:54:13 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
My mother remembers hearing Gottschee when she was a girl. (she's 71). Off hand I wouldn't know my GreatGreatGrandFather. I have a picture. But I take my mother's word that it was him.
- 209.240.222.130 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:56:28 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
Do you have a scanner?
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:57:12 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Good Morning, it's 7:12 am EST and I'm checking to see if this page is working yet.
- 209.240.222.131 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:57:52 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
I don't have a scanner yet. I also found out, if I hit the back button, I repeat the time I first came on.
- 209.240.222.132 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 04:59:41 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
you don't need to do that. Just print your answer and then click the send your message bar. keep clicking that to see the next message some enters.
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 05:01:11 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
I think you figured out your problem.
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 05:01:47 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Just takes a while to figure it out.
- 209.240.222.32 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 05:03:44 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
Same here at first. Once you get a hang of it you never want to miss anything.
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 05:04:21 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
Do you have any Eisenzopf members living near you or are you close to any of them?
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 05:05:06 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
I do have some cousins living in the NYC area. I haven't have checked the addresss in a while. I can't say I'm close to them. I'm not sure if they're Eisenzopf or DeBuonas. My Grandmother's side of my mother's family.
- 209.240.222.131 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 05:13:36 (UTC)
sharon eisenzopf:
well I have to work at 6am so I should go. Russell if you want to send any email to me feel free and I'll try to help out. You should still have my email address if not just go to genealogy.com for it.
Have a goodnight and maybe I'll see you here later on in the week.
- 206.172.22.123 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 05:13:52 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Goodnight
- 209.240.222.132 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 05:14:20 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Good Morning, it's 7:12 am EST and I'm checking to see if this page is working yet.
- 205.188.195.31 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 05:23:15 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Good Morning, it's 7:12 am EST and I'm checking to see if this page is working yet.
- 205.188.195.31 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 06:06:27 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
- 205.188.195.31 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 06:07:34 (UTC)
Helmuth:
Russell, no problem, we have seen this happen before. You need to delete your bookmark for this page. Then re-bookmark with no text in the name and message fields above. Your bookmark or favorite contains the repeated posting.
- 204.180.133.234 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 13:04:35 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Good Morning, it's 7:12 am EST and I'm checking to see if this page is working yet.
- 152.163.204.189 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 14:35:50 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
I just deleted my bookmark. And I'll try it again.
- 152.163.204.189 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 14:38:04 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
I think I have it now.
- 152.163.204.189 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 14:38:43 (UTC)
Trix:
Good Morning Russell and CONGRATULATIONS. You have mastered your participation in the Gottscheer Plauderzimmer. Can be very frustrating. Been there, done that. From now on it can only get better.
Enjoy a good Monday.
- 209.240.237.161 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 18:55:17 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Yea!!!! the weather is warming up. Its about time. I finished hanging plastic Easter eggs on the tree outside. Nice day to do it.
Everyone have a great day
- 199.243.211.131 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 20:40:07 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Hi Sharon, Ridy Tix...Just got back from A/C....Was reading the Sunday nite chats...Somehow I feel suddenly that I may be doing something wrong Am I? I saw something about chipping in $, etc. Someone please let me know..and is it wrong to go on the Pladerzimmer a lot beforre Sunday? I also saw something about the Gottscheer Bulettin Board..I thought that was not on anymore...SOMEONE ENLIGHTEN ME PLEASE....AND I WILL BE GLAD TO HELP MONETERRALY..HAVE TO GO...BE BACK LATER....AGAIN, SORRY IF I UNWITTINGLY HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG..
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 20:54:09 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
12:34 am EST and I just came home from work and I think everyone's gone.
- 205.188.199.34 - Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 05:34:24 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
They gone. I go also.
- 205.188.199.34 - Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 05:34:49 (UTC)
Helmuth:
Paul, keep on doing what you're doing and enjoy. Use the chat freely at any time. See the Gottscheer Bulletin Board for a message from me on this topic (or the Plauderzimmer logs).
- 204.180.133.234 - Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 14:21:37 (UTC)
Helmuth:
Paul, keep on doing what you're doing and enjoy. Use the chat freely at any time. See the Gottscheer Bulletin Board for a message from me on this topic (or the Plauderzimmer logs).
- 204.180.133.234 - Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 14:23:59 (UTC)
PAUL BRASINO:
HELMUTH: THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING TO MY PLEA.. NOW I FEEL COMFORTABLE AGAIN...GOTTSCHEERS HAVE BEEN THE GREATEST PART OF MY LIFE SINCE I WAS EIGHTEEN, AND THESE CHATS ARE JUST REFRESHING, INTERESTING, IFORMATIVE AND I DON"T KNOW IF I AMSPELLING THIS CORRECTLY, BUT I WANT TO SAY "HOIMISCH"
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 21:05:34 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
All: Didn't log on Sunday night. Watched the 6-month WTC anniversary program. Very moving. See you all next Sunday--which will be St. Patrick's Day. St. Patrick is my adopted saint.
- 64.197.200.97 - Wednesday, March 13, 2002 at 00:32:46 (UTC)
Paul Brasino:
Sharon: I saw your message about relatives in Corona..I lived in Corona from 1927 untill 1940 before i moved to Glendale...Is there any other name your relatives may have..We had a neighbor who came from Italy whose name was Falzogher..My father used to say that he was Austrian but came from italy and of course spoke Italian..I was only a kid then..Now I am wonering if that name was from Gottschee,,Anyone recognise that name?
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, March 13, 2002 at 01:25:59 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Corona! When I grew up that was where my mother's family came from. I was in Jackson Heights. Her parish was St Leo's. She also had cousins who lived in nearby Our Lady of Sorrows. I'd say more about Corona. But I don't want to hog up all the space.
- 64.12.102.172 - Wednesday, March 13, 2002 at 07:11:07 (UTC)
Paul B:
I went toSt, Leo's and was confirmed there..Went to Newtown High....Had a good friend Eddie Edwards in Jackson Heights, and a lawyer named Gellman..
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, March 13, 2002 at 15:06:09 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Good Morning, it's 7:12 am EST and I'm checking to see if this page is working yet.
- 209.240.222.131 - Wednesday, March 13, 2002 at 17:01:36 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Good Morning, it's 7:12 am EST and I'm checking to see if this page is working yet.
- 209.240.222.131 - Wednesday, March 13, 2002 at 17:02:07 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi Paul. They only relatives that I know about was from my Grandfather's children and thats who I grew up with. The family doesn't know any of the other relatives because Grandma and Grandpa never spoke of them. Were not sure if just one Uncle came over to New York or if the other 2 came. Grandpa came straight to Canada from Onek. I have to do the paper work to find out who was Grandpa's Dad. But I'm waiting for the films to be ordered and I hope his Baptism record is in it. There is only one person who orders the film and she is on holidays. I think she goes south for the winter. Where I live its a small town of about 10,000 people and there is probably only about a dozen people searching for their relatives. So they are only open 2 days out of the week.
- 206.172.22.30 - Wednesday, March 13, 2002 at 19:53:04 (UTC)
Paul B:
Sharon: Got the message about the names,,,I happened to mention your surname to a cousin in Florida, and he said immediately "That's a Gottscheer name"......I have to call him again to see what or who he knows with your name...... And when I saw the Town Corona mentioned, I thought that Russell might tell me the names of relations he had in Corona...Regards...paul
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, March 13, 2002 at 21:00:08 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
In Corona, (Mostly in the area of 97-98 Sts and from 45 Ave to Corona Ave. I don't know if you're famoliar with Corona. Paul is. But I don't know about Sharon.) were the Eisenzoph's who first came over in the 1890's. Joseph, Otto, James aka Jimmy-Grandpa, John, William, Jasper and Eda. Joseph and I think Otto were carpenters. They built several of the houses standing in Corona. James I remember working in a meat/butcher shop on National St.
Joseph married Anna DeBuona and mad 3 daughters.
Otto married Celeste and had 2 daughters.
James married Lucy and had 2 daughters.
John married Sadie and had 1 daughter.
William married Philomona and had 3 sons and 1 daughter.
Jasper I don't think was married.
Eda married James Charrelli and had 4 sons and 3 daughters.
None of these people are still around. But it shows the Eisenzopf family before their children started moving.
- 205.188.192.156 - Thursday, March 14, 2002 at 05:44:59 (UTC)
Paul B:
Russell: Your naming those streets in Corona brought me way back to when I was a kid...We lived one block off Corona Ave. I used to know National Ave like the back of my hand,,Whew! You just reminded me how oooold I am...
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, March 15, 2002 at 04:37:34 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Thinking about it now, it makes me think how long ago it's been since I was last over there.
- 64.12.105.177 - Friday, March 15, 2002 at 05:27:18 (UTC)
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- 64.12.105.177 - Friday, March 15, 2002 at 06:24:39 (UTC)
:
Well Russell, you know how some towns have gone down the tubes? Corona, I think, is one of them...The last time I was there-some time ago, left me quite depressed. I wanted it to be just the way it was when I moved away..What a disappointment..I will never go back.. I just hope that some parts of Corona is still O.K. , But I hear otherwise...
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, March 15, 2002 at 20:23:19 (UTC)
Paul B:
Sharon, Just reading over some messages-read yours again,and wish you a fruitful find in your effort. It can be frustrating..I have been trying to research my Grand Parents(Fathers' side) from Palermo in Italy, but to no avail.....I had much more luck with the Gottscheer search...
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 00:16:28 (UTC)
Paul B:
By the way...does anyone know where Sophia is ?....Miss her nice little friendly talk and warm wishes...Sincerely hope she is well, and on a nice vacation....
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 00:19:24 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
OK I'm not very good at Geography but where is Corona? The only thing I know about Corona is that its a drink.
Yeah I miss Sophia.
- 206.172.22.234 - Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 05:13:19 (UTC)
Sophia:
Greetings Sharon and Paul. Just enjoyed reading your messages. Thanks for your greetings. Actually, I am still here, very busy and at times very tired too. Keep thinking about the nummy Chinese food Sharon and how I wish you were not that far away. Never know though, one of these days might surprise you.
Paul, regarding your grandfather. I wonder if you could find an Italian web site and post your inquiry there. People seem to be very involved in genealogy and Italy certainly should be no exception. Give it a try.
We had another 6 inches of snow last night but the warm sun today took care of quite a bit of it. I know that spring is just a round the corner.
Take care you two, enjoy a good Saturday and join us Sunday night as we chat about and that. Smile and think happy thoughts.
- 209.240.237.172 - Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 05:22:02 (UTC)
Paul B.:
Corona is a town in the Borough of Queens/Queens County in New York...The way I remember, it was a predominanty Italian neighborhood.....I remember the wine making time and the grape crates that were delivered to the houses where the wine was made..Used to love to snatch a few out of the crates and squeeze that ripe grape popping it onto my tongue,,can still taste that sweetness.As a kid I say it was a Hucklelberry Finn way of life, at least in my immediate neighborhood.
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 05:48:29 (UTC)
Paul B.:
Sophia: Nice to hear from you..We are having spring weather here on Long island...The heating oil companies did not fare out to well this winter on Long Island.....Have a nice weekend........
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 05:52:14 (UTC)
Edith Eisenkölbl geb. Gliebe:
Birgit Hostert Kraker:
Hallo liebe Frau Birgit!
Habe Ihre Anfrage an Hrn. Jim Heimann gelesen.Auch diejenige an Hrn. Mausser vom 12.11.01. Vor einigen Wochen habe ich darauf geantwortet (leider ohne Erfolg).Rudolf Högler ist mein Cousin. Seine und meine Mutter waren Schwestern (insgesamt 8 Kinder). Eine Frage nur: Hat Ihre Oma einmal in Österreich (Lager 5, Kapfenberg) gewohnt? Da wohnte meine Mutter mit uns sieben Kindern, auch eine von ihren Schwestern (Ella Rössel, geb. Högler). Ich war noch sehr jung, erinnere mich aber genau an eine Familie Kraker die nach Deutschland ausgewandert ist. Unser Großvater (auch der von Rudi Högler) hieß Johann Högler, geb. 1870, verstorben 1940 in Altlag. Würde mich sehr freuen, von Ihnen zu hören.
- 195.3.113.8 - Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 15:39:52 (UTC)
Paul B,:
I feel obligated to correct the Gottscheer story about the lady walking on her knees up to the church on a hill, after God answered her prayers...It happened in Verdrange and it was my cousin Frank Jaklitschs' Grandma who asked God to bring her three sons back home alive from the war, And she walked on her knees, indeed, but in three installments, which I say that was best, or she would have had to pray again for her poor old knees to heal..The way I told it the first time sure was an INTELLECTUAL INTERRUPTION alright!
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 19:55:11 (UTC)
Paul B,:
And for a lighter moment: Is there anyone out there able to stretch out dough over a good sized dining room table, without a tear? My mother-in law Gertrude Jaklitsch did it to make, and get this now:AUSGEZOCHEINTO KNELLEIN.I don't know how to put the '' over the letter O....
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 20:01:51 (UTC)
Ridy:
Paul - every good Gottscheer lady worth her salt can do that! We use the same dough for Apple Strudel, Cherry Strudel, Cream Strudel, even a meat Strudel.
To make the Ö just press Alt and hold it down while you press 153 on the number side. I'll send you my list. . . .
- 64.229.234.18 - Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 20:13:40 (UTC)
Paul B.:
Hey!, I thought I was going to get some kind of praise about spelling the AusgezocheintoÖ..close enough, and now I really got to get back to work-and now I am hungfy!!!
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 20:37:07 (UTC)
Paul B.:
The last word is HUNGRY
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 20:37:56 (UTC)
Russell:
You're probably so hungry, you couldn't spell it. :-)
- 205.188.195.48 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 02:27:35 (UTC)
Paul B:
You are absolutely correct Russell..The Brain needs food!
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 02:33:50 (UTC)
Russell:
So Paul, what part of Corona did you come from?
- 205.188.195.48 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 02:51:42 (UTC)
Russell:
Regarding Eisenzopf's from Ridgewood. I remember while I was working the token change booth at the Halsey St Subway stop on the L line, at Bushwick Ave. and George St Intersection, I would have a female customer named Eisenzopf who I would see every morning. I've always wondered if that was a cousin of mine.
- 205.188.195.48 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 03:06:41 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Russell do you remember the lady's first name?
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 04:31:25 (UTC)
Russell:
I used to see her disabled ID card for a split second on Monday mornings. Her name was definately Eisenzopf. I tried a few times to see her card again. But she didn't want to show it anymore than she wanted to. This was about 10-12 years ago. At the time I'd say she was about 17 years old. I don't remember her name. And I don't want to guess because I might be wrong.
- 152.163.204.62 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 04:45:26 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
So that makes her my age then.
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 04:49:19 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Did you receive my email Russell?
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 04:50:32 (UTC)
Russell:
Did you send it to my webtv or aol address?
- 152.163.204.62 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 04:55:48 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
aol address
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 04:58:04 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
and I'm warning you that it takes along time for it to come through
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 04:59:00 (UTC)
Russell:
I haven't seen it yet. And I always keep an ear out for the "You Got Mail!" annoucement.
- 152.163.204.62 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:00:04 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Maybe they are scanning it for viruses, I know my mail does that
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:02:14 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
Russell Did you check out the Latter Day Saint's web site?
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:09:08 (UTC)
Russell:
Still not yet. Hopefully you got my address correct.
- 152.163.204.62 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:13:00 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
it will come from my moms address chris@jam.21
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:18:44 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I just checked the address and its right.
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:19:48 (UTC)
Russell:
I sent you an e-mail and I sent it to the wrong address. I sent it to your own address. whoops!
- 152.163.204.62 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:22:46 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
ok I got your email
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:25:09 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
my email probably got lost in cyber space. That happen to my friend the other day.
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:26:49 (UTC)
Russell:
Sharon are you on aol? I sent you e-mail via chris@jam.21 and it bounced back.
- 152.163.204.62 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:28:55 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
chris@jam21.net is my mothers address I use that when I'm sending attachments from the scanner.
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:29:56 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
I got your email at my address calliecat
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:30:29 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
do you want me to resend my email?
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:30:52 (UTC)
Russell:
I didn't see the .net part
- 152.163.204.62 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:31:10 (UTC)
Russell:
ok I'm waiting for it.
- 152.163.204.62 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:31:40 (UTC)
Sharon Eisenzopf:
you will be waiting a long time.
- 206.172.22.236 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 05:32:14 (UTC)
Paul B.:
Russell: Tried to answer your question last nite about Corona,but was cut off in the middle with a power failure..Any way, I lived on Otis Ave. between 108th St and Waldron Ave. Had a candy Store and lived in back of store right across the street fromP.S. 14.....Paul Picerni of Televisiions' Untouchables series was my upstairs neighbor. The huckellberry part of Corona life was just a stones throw away, with a creek (swimming) a swamp(interesting wild life) Fresh water spring that was delicious and stuff...
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 17:59:19 (UTC)
Paul B.:
Russell: Tried to answer your question last nite about Corona,but was cut off in the middle with a power failure..Any way, I lived on Otis Ave. between 108th St and Waldron Ave. Had a candy Store and lived in back of store right across the street fromP.S. 14.....Paul Picerni of Televisiions' Untouchables series was my upstairs neighbor. The huckellberry part of Corona life was just a stones throw away, with a creek (swimming) a swamp(interesting wild life) Fresh water spring that was delicious and stuff...
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 17:59:19 (UTC)
Trix:
Good Evening. Time to chat! So, where is everyone?
- 209.240.237.145 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:18:11 (UTC)
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good evening, everybody!
If you don't come by soon, the tea will be cold, and I'll have fallen asleep just listening to the silence.
- 64.229.238.57 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:18:36 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good evening ladies. Just got home from dinner at my daughters house.
- 152.163.201.191 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:20:25 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all had a good week. Weather very odd here. One day 70 the next 45. Spring had better hurry.
- 63.252.221.178 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:20:32 (UTC)
Ridy :
Well! We're a quartet! What shall we sing?
- 64.229.238.57 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:21:50 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
You would not want to hear me sing!
- 152.163.201.191 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:22:40 (UTC)
Ridy :
Sophia/Trix/Trixie. . . .
how be if you start by explaining you're all one and the same lovely lady?
- 64.229.238.57 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:23:14 (UTC)
Ridy :
That's the beauty of it, Marilu -- I can barely hear the phone ring even when I'm holding it in my hand, so you can sing anything you like, and I'll think you sound like the late Maria Callas!
- 64.229.238.57 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:24:47 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy you are too funny!! We had a little snow here again Friday, but I understand Minnesota got quite a bit.
- 152.163.201.191 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:26:43 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Trix: You are so talented, you must be 3 people.
- 63.252.221.178 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:28:45 (UTC)
Ridy :
No snow up here in the frozen North -- just a bit of rain and a bit of wind. In fact, the earth around my compost heap never froze for more than a day or two this winter, and my snowdrops are almost finished blooming! Who needs Florida anyway? At least this year. . . . .
- 64.229.238.57 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:28:46 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We have had a very mild winter also. The snow we have been getting this month is usually melted by noon, and then it is nice and springtime again.
- 152.163.201.191 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:30:44 (UTC)
Ridy :
Is this Plauderzimmer turning into a hen party? Where are the other member of this gathering?
- 64.229.238.57 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:30:49 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
What is a hen party?
- 64.12.104.56 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:31:28 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
That what happens when there are no Roosters (men) around!
- 152.163.201.191 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:32:25 (UTC)
Ridy :
Never mind, Jim -- that's for us to know and for you to be shielded from.
- 64.229.238.57 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:32:43 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I will let that one go. How is everyone doing? We are off to visit colleges in nearby Pennsylvania. The weather is supposed to be less than optimal.
- 64.12.104.56 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:35:25 (UTC)
Trix:
Ok, ok, that's enough. Can't handle all these compliments. Yes, Marilu, you are right we had a mega storm about 1 week ago. 15 inches of snow followed by 45 mph wind. We were drifted shut. The neighbor came to plow us out, he got stuck with his pickup and front plow. We shoveled like crazy when out of the blue (divine intervention, I am convinced of it)the county plow came into the yard to turn around. I waved to him, he responded, backed down to the point and pulled out the pickup. Talk about being grateful.
Other than that, life is busy, exciting, tiring and sometimes overwhelming. And yes, Ridy, there are times when I even cranky. Not often but seems like I am doing it more than ever before. Not a good sign. Need to remember that the cup is always half full rather than half empty. But, in spite of it all, life is still great and I wouldn't change a thing. Well, maybe for a day I would but I am pretty darn happy where I am at. There you have. What's new with all of you?
- 209.240.237.145 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:35:49 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
Franz must be off tending to his flock of Volvos.
- 64.12.104.56 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:35:58 (UTC)
Ridy:
Jim - have you seen the pillars of light memorial over the World Trade Center? The pictures I've seen are quite stunning.
- 64.229.238.57 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:36:42 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
Good evening all.
- 152.163.205.78 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:37:05 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
The pics of the WTC light don't do justice to the real thing!
- 152.163.205.78 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:38:16 (UTC)
Ridy:
Well, Hello Russell! How nice that you could join us!
- 64.229.238.57 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:38:45 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
For once this is my day off from work.
- 152.163.205.78 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:39:26 (UTC)
Trix:
I agree Ridy. I think the photo with the pillars of light is one of the most beautiful I have ever seen. What a sight that must be. I was thinking back of April 1952 and after being on the ocean for 10 long days arriving in New York harbor and seeing those lights in the distance. What a view that would be. Yes, on the 29th of April it will be 50 years since this gal, along with her mom and dad, arrived in St. Paul, Minnesota. What a journey it has been since.
- 209.240.237.145 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:39:34 (UTC)
Jim Heimann:
I have only seen the lights from afar. It must be stunning up closer. Very good idea.
- 64.12.104.56 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:39:58 (UTC)
Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I shall have to watch some TV and see what the memorial looks like. I see the men have decided to join us. Welcome.
- 152.163.201.191 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:40:03 (UTC)
Ridy:
That's what a friend of mine tells me also, Russell! I'm am really happy that they've come up with such a stunning memorial, even though it's apparently only temporay. I think they should make it permanent.
- 64.229.238.57 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:40:36 (UTC)
Russell Doucette:
The first time I saw the lights, I thought the moon was trying to break thru the clouds.
- 152.163.205.78 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:41:07 (UTC)
Margaret Jonke:
Must log off. Auf wiedersehen. Alles gut. Bleib gesund.
- 63.252.221.178 - Monday, March 18, 2002 at 02:41:31