Plauderzimmer Log, Oct. '02 - May '03

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Helmuth:
Log-rolling time again. We're up to 7 pages of archived logs.
- 204.180.133.234 - Friday, October 11, 2002 at 11:25:38 (UTC)

Trix:
So Helmuth, tell me, what does "Log-rolling time" mean? Do you get rid of the archived logs or just hide them.
- 209.240.245.74 - Friday, October 11, 2002 at 15:28:40 (UTC)

Helmuth:
No we never get rid of anything :-) Archiving just means that every 6 months we take all the plauderzimmer posts and move them to an archive file. All messages are accessible via the link above (Plauderzimmer log). If you click on it you will see seven log files sorted by date.

By breaking them up like this you don't have to wait hours for one big file to load.

- 204.180.133.234 - Friday, October 11, 2002 at 17:26:19 (UTC)

Trix:
Yup, should have known. Smart man Helmuth. Makes excellent sense. This site has brought much joy to all of us who visit and for that we once again say a heartfelt DANKE.
- 209.240.245.74 - Friday, October 11, 2002 at 18:04:12 (UTC)

.Paul B.:
It is great the waY HE,MUTH WORKS IT OUT.. I ENJOY GOING BACK EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE TO PAST POSTINGS...tHANX AGAIN HELMUTH...
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, October 11, 2002 at 18:37:17 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
A very Happy Thanksgiving weekend to all the Canadians who visit this Plauderzimmer!
- 64.229.238.49 - Saturday, October 12, 2002 at 01:49:50 (UTC)

Trix:
Wow, the things we learn in the Plauderzimmer. HAPPY THANKSGIVING to you Ridy and your family and all other Canadians who might be with us. Enjoy this great holiday. I will be thinking of you.
- 209.240.237.164 - Saturday, October 12, 2002 at 03:21:34 (UTC)

:
Ridy, do you have a turkey ready?
- 172.174.28.45 - Sunday, October 13, 2002 at 01:21:49 (UTC)

Ridy:
One in the fridge, and one snoring in front of the TV downstairs. . . . ;-) Thanksgiving Day is on Monday, so I have another day to get ready for it.
- 64.229.235.49 - Sunday, October 13, 2002 at 03:06:27 (UTC)

Trix:
Ridy, may I come too? I just know that it will be a marvelous feast. With you cooking how can it not be. Enjoy!
- 209.240.245.134 - Sunday, October 13, 2002 at 04:21:45 (UTC)

Trix:
Ridy, may I come too? I just know that it will be a marvelous feast. With you cooking how can it not be. Enjoy!
- 209.240.245.134 - Sunday, October 13, 2002 at 04:22:16 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hi Trix--you clicked twice that message-guess you really want an invite-well so do I...I am absolutely positeive that Ridy is an excellent cook..Let's all hop on a plane and surprise her..Wouldn.t that be great if we were all in a position to do crazy things like that? I guess you have to be a millionare. I did know a guy in N.Y. who used to fly on weekends just to eat some kind of shrimp dish that he was crazy about! But it's only fair to tell you, that much to everyones surprise he wound up in jail! The money did not come from honest hard work, but that is a whole other story..So we wish Ridy and her family a happy and delicious holiday, and we will be thinking aBOUT her.Enjoy your Sunday everyone..Adie and i are celebrating our 60th wedding anniversary today-our kids are taking us out for a special dinner at our favorite restaurant...So if I miss the Plauderzimmer tonite, I hope you all have a nice chat.....
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, October 13, 2002 at 17:42:41 (UTC)

Trix:
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY Paul and Addie. What a great accomplishment. You are an inspiration to all of us. Continued good health and continued blessings to you both. Enjoy a wonderful meal tonight. Yes, we will be thinking of you and missing you.
- 216.251.169.34 - Sunday, October 13, 2002 at 18:12:02 (UTC)

Irene:
Congratulations Paul and Addie! Happy Thanksgiveing Sherri, Ridy and all our other Canadian friends.

What does a typical Canadian thanksgiving dinner include?
- 66.66.196.194 - Sunday, October 13, 2002 at 20:03:54 (UTC)

Trix:
Looking for possible relatives of a Josef Samide born in Grintowitz #19. If interested please send an e-mail to wyants@mlecmn.net
- 209.240.237.155 - Sunday, October 13, 2002 at 21:54:14 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Happy Thanksgiving to our Canadian neighbors!!

- 64.12.96.236 - Monday, October 14, 2002 at 01:09:30 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all had a good week. We are heartbroken about our Chiefs. The guys put up a super fight. We'll get them next week--Denver--at home here.
- 207.193.3.171 - Monday, October 14, 2002 at 01:09:52 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Happy Thanksgiving to all our Canadian friends. I didn't know it was tomorrow. Thank you for reminding us.
- 207.193.3.171 - Monday, October 14, 2002 at 01:11:21 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Trix: I almost fell off my chair laughing at the story of the new Army recruit!! That was wonderful!
- 207.193.3.171 - Monday, October 14, 2002 at 01:13:34 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Ridy,in addition to great food and company, are there Thanksgiving traditions akin to the Pilgrims, Plymouth Rock, etc.,. ?

Trix, I only have one reference to Grintowitz#19 to this point and that was Josef. I have his wife and the names of the three children along with the names of his parents. This is from a combination of the Resettlement records along with the GHGA marriage file.
- 64.12.96.43 - Monday, October 14, 2002 at 01:18:08 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Congratulations to Paul and Addie!! Here's to many more happy ones.
- 64.12.96.236 - Monday, October 14, 2002 at 01:21:12 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
May I also add my congratulations to Paul and Addie. Mustlog off now. Hope all have a super week. Bleib gesund.
- 207.193.3.171 - Monday, October 14, 2002 at 01:32:48 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good evening, everyone. I have grandkids spending the night so I was busy getting them settled for the night.
- 152.163.188.34 - Monday, October 14, 2002 at 01:53:13 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
So has everyone signed off for the night already??
- 152.163.189.166 - Monday, October 14, 2002 at 02:02:04 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Marilu, I think I chased them away. How are you doing?
- 64.12.96.206 - Monday, October 14, 2002 at 02:02:39 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim, I thought maybe I chased everyone away. lol I am tired tonite so will not be here for long. We had a big blues festival here this weekend and I was one of the volunteers so I am tired. Plus 3 grandkids spending the night. Two of them are tucked in already, because of school tomorrow.
- 152.163.189.136 - Monday, October 14, 2002 at 02:06:32 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I understand. It looked like it was going to be a talkative night but everyone seems to have disappeared. Have a good week.
- 64.12.96.105 - Monday, October 14, 2002 at 02:09:25 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
You also. Maybe everyone will show up next week, and stay longer. Gute Nacht.
- 152.163.188.163 - Monday, October 14, 2002 at 02:10:44 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Adie & I thank all the well wishers-really nice of you all..Dinner party was a great success-we stayedlate and closed the place-the owners would not let us go home..Now we wait for the 70th!!!! Thanks again......
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, October 14, 2002 at 04:40:37 (UTC)

Trix:
Looking for family members of the Schadingers from the city of Gottschee. Would appreciate any help. Danke.
- 216.251.178.9 - Thursday, October 17, 2002 at 21:22:58 (UTC)

Irene:
Does anyone remember a blacksmith in the city of Gottschee name Gerdin? This is a question that arose indirectly from a question Dr. Jim asked me. My Great Aunt Julie married a Gerdin from Gottschee and so did her sister. She married his brotoher. I did not see the name Gerdin as a surname listed on the surname web page. However, I know the Gerdins came from Gottschee because my mother remembers as a child going to the city with her grandmother so that the grandmother could collect the rent on the blacksmith building. Also there are family stories of Gerdins visiting Gottschee and one finding a wife.

Does anyone know who I should contact to have the name Gerdin listed on the surname page?
- 66.66.196.194 - Thursday, October 17, 2002 at 22:21:16 (UTC)

Albert Ruppe:
Do you know about the book "Gottscheer Familiennamen", written 1882 by Joseph Obergföll. He was born in the Tyrol and was teacher at the Gymnasium in Gottschee.
He was the first who collected our names. When I want to know, if some name could be from Gottschee, I look to this little book.
Liebe Gruesse an Euch alle !
Albert
- 62.47.19.22 - Sunday, October 20, 2002 at 18:11:20 (UTC)

Trix:
Liebe Grüße aus Minnesota, Albert. Ich möchte gerne eine Kopie von dem Buch kaufen. Ist es möglich?

Alles, alles Gute. Bleibt gsund.
- 209.240.245.176 - Sunday, October 20, 2002 at 21:52:12 (UTC)

Russell:
I'm here.
Last weekend at the hospital went well. They took a piece of skin from above my knee and put it on my foot. I won't know how the foot is until I see my doctor on tuesday morning. But the area above my knee hurts.
How is everybody?
- 64.12.96.15 - Sunday, October 20, 2002 at 23:34:59 (UTC)

Hans:
Guten Abend. Wie ist jeder heute abend?
- 64.12.96.198 - Sunday, October 20, 2002 at 23:36:39 (UTC)

Hans:
Guten Abend. Wie ist jeder heute abend?
- 64.12.96.198 - Sunday, October 20, 2002 at 23:38:32 (UTC)

Trix:
Grüß Dich Hans. Hier in Minnesota ist es sehr kühl aber wir hoffen noch auf schöne, warme Tage. Ich bin beschäftigt mit dem Holz für den langen Winter. Habe es von meinen verstorbenen Vater gelernt und hab viel Freude dabei.

Und wie geht es in der Schweiz?
- 209.240.245.176 - Sunday, October 20, 2002 at 23:51:52 (UTC)

Trix:
Russell - so glad the surgery is behind you and you are on the mend. Continue to heal.

Will check in throughout the evening. Plan to watch the first gubernatorial debate in MN. Politics is in my blood so need to pay attention.

Enjoy the evening and continue to take care of yourself.
- 209.240.245.176 - Sunday, October 20, 2002 at 23:52:57 (UTC)

Russell:
Who's running on the Independance Party Ticket?
- 64.12.96.139 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 00:11:07 (UTC)

Hans:
In der Schweiz die letzte Woche wurde es sonnige Tage und kalte Nächte gewesen. Ich habe mein Holz für den Winter gesammelt. Ich habe auch einen Kohle abgefeuerten Ofen für zusätzliche Wärme. Wie ist jeder in diesem Raum sonst?
- 64.12.96.11 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 00:17:49 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Trix: you go girl! Politicians get a bad rap, but as far as I'm concerned, it's fascinating to see how the business of the locality, state, or nation is conducted. Too many people sit back and don't get involved. Bravo to you for not being one of them.
- 209.166.149.25 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 00:39:41 (UTC)

Russell:
Helmuth, you're beginning to sound like Gov. Jesse Venture!
- 64.12.96.206 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 00:43:53 (UTC)

Russell:
Or is his last name spelled Ventura?
- 64.12.96.232 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 00:54:55 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all had a good week. Can't stay on long. Anybody on yet?
- 207.193.1.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 01:04:34 (UTC)

Russell:
I'm on. Hans, Helmuth, Trix and Albert Ruppe have been on so far tonight?
- 64.12.96.39 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 01:07:27 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Russell, Trix, Helmuth, etc. Glad you are on. I was getting lonesome. Politics on everyone's mind now--with the elections some 2 weeks away. Really should sign off. Work to do. Bleib gesund.
- 207.193.1.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 01:17:07 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Good evening to one and all.
- 64.12.96.206 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 01:17:49 (UTC)

Trix:
Mr. Tim Penny, former U S Congressman is the Independent Party candidate.
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 01:18:10 (UTC)

Trix:
Helmuth, THANK YOU. Boy, I don't hear that often enough. Yes, I needed to find out what made America tick many years ago and marrying my husband gave me the opportunity to be active in the political arena for 42 years now. Have enjoyed it all.
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 01:20:37 (UTC)

Russell:
Does Penny have a chance of winning? Or is his assoication with Ventura going to hurt him?
- 64.12.96.74 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 01:21:35 (UTC)

Trix:
Anybody planning to go to Slovenia next year? There are 2 events that I know of that you might want to consider. In mid September the second annual Slovenian Genealogy Society International Genealogy conference will be held in Ljubljana. On September 8 will be the dedication mass of the restored church of Maria Hilf in Rodine, Gottschee. Either one could be a great opportunity to travel.
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 01:23:47 (UTC)

Trix:
It is a very, very close race Russell. Tim has a chance to win.
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 01:29:17 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hallo Is anyone still around here tonite. Just got off the phone, so now I can chat here.
- 152.163.189.198 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 01:44:23 (UTC)

Russell:
I'm here. I don't know about anyone else.
- 64.12.96.44 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 01:51:22 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Russell...Looks like a slow night again.
- 152.163.188.68 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 01:52:42 (UTC)

Russell:
Either a slow night or no one has anything to say. I still wish there was a way to know who's in here at any time.
- 64.12.96.104 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 01:55:50 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, Russell, you just have to hope they say something. There are lots of people who hang around, and never say anything. I wish those people would join us also. We need a interesting topic, for people to speak up, I guess.
- 152.163.188.69 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 01:58:20 (UTC)

Russell:
Someone say something before we leave!

You think that'll work Marilu?
- 64.12.96.206 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:04:11 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Around here you never know! lol
- 152.163.189.135 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:05:30 (UTC)

Hans:
Hallo, wie ist jeder heute abend? Ich habe hier gewartet, daß jemand mit spricht. Aber niemand scheint zu wissen, daß ich hier bin.
- 64.12.96.107 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:08:42 (UTC)

Russell:
Great, someone else is here and I don't understand (I think he is speaking) German. Can you translate Marilu?
- 64.12.96.76 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:10:52 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hans, müssen Sie zuerst sprechen, damit wir Sie sind hier kennen. Und während Sie vermutlich erklären können, spreche ich nicht Deutsches.
- 152.163.188.70 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:11:35 (UTC)

Russell:
Ok you can. What did he say?
- 64.12.96.104 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:12:12 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Russell, Hans says he was waiting for someone to talk to him. I told him he has to speak first so we know he is here. I used a translator to figure out what he said, and to reply in not very good German.
- 152.163.189.71 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:12:48 (UTC)

Trix:
Hans is wondering how everyone is. This is the gentleman from southern Switzerland. He is waiting for someone to speak but appears that no one knows he is there. Marilu: CONGRATULATIONS! Good try. You did good.
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:14:00 (UTC)

Russell:
Very few of us can speak German. And I guess Hans isn't able to speak English.
- 64.12.96.47 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:15:07 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Trix! Is it snowing at your house today.
- 152.163.188.161 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:15:31 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Well I wasn't sure if I was going to be here tonight. I caught a cold. I'm all stuffed up.
- 206.172.22.31 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:15:38 (UTC)

Russell:
I guess there are still people in here.
- 64.12.96.231 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:16:21 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
It snowed here some last night but melted when the sun came out, but its still cold here.
- 206.172.22.31 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:19:21 (UTC)

Trix:
No snow here but they have issued a warning for Pine County - to the South of us perhaps 50 miles and East. They expect 8 inches. CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?

- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:20:11 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I think there will be snow on the ground to stay this Halloween
- 206.172.22.31 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:21:17 (UTC)

Trix:
Sharon, everytime I see your name I think of Wanton Soup. Man, on a day like today would that ever be great. If I ever get to I-Falls I am going across the border to meet you. Used to go there regularly as my husband was hearing a lot of cases up there.
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:21:32 (UTC)

Hans:
Ich verstehe nicht, was Sie sagen. Ich verstehe, daß ich sprechen sollte informiere Leute mich bin im chatroom. Wenn ich Sie verstand, übersetzten Sie, was ich sagte. Ich verstand nicht das zweite Teil von, was Sie sagten. Konnten Sie es bitte wiederholen?
- 64.12.97.13 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:21:33 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Wonton soup would be great for my cold right now, but will shrimp and pork in it also.
- 206.172.22.31 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:22:49 (UTC)

Trix:
Hans - Marilu und ich haben beide das gleiche übersetzt. Du sprichst kein Englisch?
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:23:00 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I meant with not will, too much cold medicine.
- 206.172.22.31 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:23:28 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, can you explain to Hans what I said?
- 152.163.188.68 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:23:57 (UTC)

Trix:
I told Hans you and I both translated the same message. I am also asking him if he speaks any English.
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:24:46 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Thanks Trix, you are ahead of me!
- 152.163.189.130 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:24:51 (UTC)

Trix:
Is this time of the year awfully slow or what? I gather are busy getting ready for winter and have a lot of work outdoors. I know I am. Hardly write any e-mails myself. But I also think you are right, we need a good topic. Maybe once winter is here or something controversial comes up it will pick up again. I miss the good exchanges on many interesting topics.
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:26:39 (UTC)

Trix:
Does anyone know if the Vikings played today? And the outcome was? THANKS.
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:27:29 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, I am not a football fan, and my husband is working on Sundays now, so the TV is hardly ever on on Sundays. I am too busy doing other things. Like genealogy!!!
- 152.163.188.163 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:29:19 (UTC)

Hans:
Trix, spreche ich nicht Englisch. Ich nahm englischsprechende lessions, als ich in der Schule war. Aber ich nie quoll hervor. Ich hatte Meiste vergessen. Ich verstehe nur einige Wörter. Wer unter Ihnen verstehen deutsches besseres?
- 64.12.96.103 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:31:13 (UTC)

Trix:
I do have something to share that I found very interesting and plan to support. It appears that Austria has written to the Gottscheer Relief Assn. in NY asking for donations to help the many people who suffered so much from the flooding this summer. In the appeal letter it appears they are reminding the Gottscheers how much we appreciated the help they gave us during the war years. How true and how well we remember their generosity. Just goes to show you how tragic the summer has been for all in the flood region in Austria. I hope they get a good response.
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:31:21 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
NYJ 20 MIN 7 F
- 206.172.22.31 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:32:22 (UTC)

Trix:
Hans says he does not speak much English - just a few words even though he studied it when he was in school but has forgotten most of it.

I am telling him that Ridy and I speak the German but others are using a translation program, which, to me, is a pretty intellectual thing to do.
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:33:02 (UTC)

Trix:
Sharon - THANKS. I guess I could have done without knowing that.
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:33:42 (UTC)

Russell:
I had forgotten there were floods in Europe this summer.
- 64.12.96.70 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:33:44 (UTC)

Trix:
Hans: Ridy und ich sprechen Deutsch. Wir sind beide von Gottschee. Die anderen im Plauderzimmer brauchen in Program welches es übersetzt.
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:34:45 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Trix Doesn't that remind you of the Flood of 97' I remembered how the Red River came up in Winnipeg and outside of Winnipeg. A lot of farmers loss a lot of grain that year because they turned their fields into flood plains.

- 206.172.22.31 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:34:57 (UTC)

Matt Thuente:
Hello, You all know my grandmother Marilu Thurman, i am taking a German class in school and she told me about this chat room that all you have
- 198.81.26.198 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:35:06 (UTC)

Trix:
CONGRATULATIONS Matt. Smart boy, no doubt about that. Our youngest daughter teaches High School German. Now tell me, do you enjoy it?
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:36:19 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Sharon, I was born where the Red River starts in Minnesota at Breckenridge. The flooding there was pretty bad also. None of my family lost their homes tho, so we were lucky. I have been in Colorado for 35 years already.
- 152.163.188.67 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:37:14 (UTC)

Matt Thuente:
yeah i do it is real fun
- 198.81.26.174 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:37:56 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Matt I am glad you came.
- 152.163.188.38 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:38:21 (UTC)

Hans:
Möglicherweise ist das, warum grammer nicht zu gut ist. Ich kümmere mich nicht. Zu sprechen ist gut, mit den Leuten. Es ist interessant, Sprache zu übersetzen übersetzt dann grammer.
- 64.12.96.205 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:38:46 (UTC)

Matt Thuente:
Well i figured i might as well try it since you reminded me
- 198.81.26.202 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:39:04 (UTC)

Russell:
Hello Matt. Nice to find someone else in here. Keeps the room from being boring.
- 64.12.96.102 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:39:56 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
So Matt do you understand what Hans is saying?
- 152.163.188.228 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:40:15 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I went to Winnipeg for a concert and the profits they made that night from seller merchandise was given to the flood relief that night. The Canadian Army was on stand by and they had put sandbags on all the manholes. You saw 2 Army guys standing at almost every corner street, waiting for the Red to peak.

- 206.172.22.31 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:40:17 (UTC)

Matt Thuente:
Yeah well my grandma told me about it since i was taking german in school but i never remembered to check in here on sundays
- 198.81.26.171 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:40:54 (UTC)

Matt Thuente:
and, no, gramma i didnt understand all of it but some of it yes
- 198.81.27.9 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:41:26 (UTC)

Matt Thuente:
only like a few words though, i'm not that far in class yet
- 198.81.26.105 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:41:51 (UTC)

Matt Thuente:
Well i gtg so ill be back in here next week if i can remember. bye Gramma Liebe ya, und gut nacht
- 198.81.26.230 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:43:06 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I used to be able to read french but haven't for about 10 years now. Some words I still understand.

- 206.172.22.31 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:43:42 (UTC)

Russell:
I don't understand German myself. But I think translating is a combination of translating words and translating grammer. I learned that from Spanish classes when I was in High School.
- 64.12.96.199 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:43:48 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night Matt. Liebe ya too.
- 152.163.188.198 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:43:56 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Oh Trix or anyone, I was going over my microfilms and was wondering if a name has a long slender S and then a dot, does that stand for H?
- 206.172.22.31 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:46:58 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I was translating the name Jos or Joh. My hunch is that it is a H.
- 206.172.22.31 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:47:55 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Well I should be going if I every want to get over my cold. Early night for me.
- 206.172.22.31 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:51:20 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Goodnight everyone who is still around. Hope to see you all next week.
- 152.163.189.198 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:52:43 (UTC)

Trix:
Good night to all of you. Have a great week and think happy thoughts.
- 209.240.245.176 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 02:58:48 (UTC)

Russell:
Good night ladies. Hopefully Hans understands Good Night. I'm gonna go as well. Sleeping in bed with a sore thigh and a 20 lb cast on my legs isn't easy to sleep with.
Good night again.
- 64.12.96.169 - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 03:01:25 (UTC)

Trix:
Helmuth: What a GREAT picture of you and your sons. CONGRATULATIONS and DANKE for sharing it.
- 209.240.245.66 - Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 13:47:13 (UTC)

Bostjan:
Trix: Hello again. Sorry about my english, because i don´t speak this language good. I live in Gottschee ( Kocevje ). Gottschee is very beautiful city in Slowenia. We have very nice trees, nice lake,..... I will send you any pictures of city. regards
- 193.77.156.62 - Thursday, October 24, 2002 at 09:46:51 (UTC)

Trix:
Good to hear from you Bostjan. Your English is excellent. Look forward to photos. Thank you and enjoy a wonderful day.

Please greet my friend August Gril.
- 209.240.245.75 - Thursday, October 24, 2002 at 18:06:19 (UTC)

Bostjan:
Hello
- 193.189.183.216 - Friday, October 25, 2002 at 18:37:54 (UTC)

Hans:
Trix bat: Gut, von Ihnen Bostjan zu hören. Ihr Englisch ist ausgezeichnet. Schauen Sie vorwärts zu den Fotos. Danke und genießen Sie einen wundervollen Tag.

Grüßen Sie bitte meinen Freund August Gril.
- 205.188.209.173 - Friday, October 25, 2002 at 22:16:31 (UTC)

Trix:
Danke Hans. Sehr gut übersetzt. Wie geht es Dir?
- 209.240.237.143 - Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 04:18:49 (UTC)

Bostjan:
Hello
- 212.30.68.15 - Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 11:27:51 (UTC)

Bostjan:
Trix: Hello. On this http://www.burger.si/Kocevje/Kocevje.html, you can see pictures of Kocevje ( Gottsche ), There are pictures of old town, centre of city, pictures of lake..... I hope you will enjoy. p.s.: next week i will send you my pictures on your e-mail. Thanks to you and Hans for nice words.
- 212.30.68.15 - Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 11:46:55 (UTC)

Bostjan:
Hello
- 212.30.68.15 - Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 11:59:53 (UTC)

Bostjan:
Hello
- 212.30.68.15 - Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 12:08:00 (UTC)

:
Why allways send message Hello when i came on this page??
- 212.30.68.15 - Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 12:11:48 (UTC)

Trix:
Bostjan: The reason the Hello repeats is probably because you hit the "send your message button" more than once. That is very easy to do. So, the next time when you send a message, hit it ONLY ONCE and wait. It will appear on the screen.

Have a nice day in lovely Kocevje. Regards to Emil Krese from Dolga vas.
- 209.240.237.164 - Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 12:19:47 (UTC)

Bostjan:
Hello
- 193.189.183.158 - Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 12:23:45 (UTC)

Bostjan:
Trix: Are you there?
- 193.189.183.158 - Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 12:25:18 (UTC)

Bostjan:
Hello
- 193.189.183.158 - Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 12:27:25 (UTC)

Bostjan:
Trix: I did´t hit button to send and message is again here.:) My PC is maybe against me? :)
- 193.189.183.158 - Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 12:29:57 (UTC)

Bostjan:
Hello
- 193.189.183.158 - Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 12:39:55 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Bostjan. I am here. How are you? Don't let the PC frustrate you. Just keep trying and remember Easy Does It with all these sensitive machines.

Did you hear about the U. S. Senator, Paul Wellstone of Minnesota who, along with his wife, daughter, 3 staff people and 2 pilots was killed in an airplane yesterday? This happened not far from where I live and The Senator is an old friend. A very sad time for all of Minnesota and the country too.
- 209.240.237.164 - Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 13:03:42 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Trix-I was going to E-Mail you to see if you knew the senator---sorry you lost a friend...God Bless, and stay well..Adie & Paul.....
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 19:08:34 (UTC)

Bostjan:
Hi Trix. No, i did´t hear about Senator. Sorry about your friend. Did you know basketball players of Minnesota? One of them is from Slowenia? What kind of land is Minnesota?
p.s. i find the cure for my PC. :)

- 213.250.4.13 - Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 10:57:28 (UTC)

Russell:
well, I'm here. Hopefully no problems tonight with people who forgot daylight saving time ended last night.

Standing by.
- 152.163.188.199 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 01:20:22 (UTC)

Russell:
Looks like some people won't be here until 10 PM EST.
- 152.163.189.169 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:03:32 (UTC)

Jim:
Just stopping in to say hello. How is everyone?
- 64.12.96.103 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:04:56 (UTC)

Russell:
So far so good. It seems were the only 2 in here. Probably others lurking around somewhere.
- 152.163.188.35 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:08:46 (UTC)

Trix:

- 216.251.178.10 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:11:48 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone.
- 198.81.26.209 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:14:12 (UTC)

Russell:
That's 2 now. LOL
- 152.163.189.133 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:14:59 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We had a sad day in our parish. We no longer have a priest in Florence and the parish is being served by a deacon. They will have communion services but a mass only occasionly when a priest can come in.
- 198.81.26.175 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:16:15 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all had a good week. Let's hear it for the Chiefs. The Raiders bring out the best in our boys.
- 66.140.94.205 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:16:33 (UTC)

Olga:
Hello everyone, I am new to this so i will just observe for a while.
- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:20:13 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Trix: So sorry about Sen. Wellstone. A great tragecy. Wonder who will replace him on the ticket? Our governor, Mel Carnahan, was killed in a plane crash 2 years ago, just before election day. His wife, took his place in the Senate and is running for re-election now.
- 66.140.94.205 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:20:25 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Olga, Hello. Feel free to join in anytime. Where do you live?
- 198.81.26.143 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:22:11 (UTC)

Olga:
Margaret are you from the Upper pennisula of Michigan. I know there are Jonke's up there.

- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:22:11 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Olgla: Hi from KCMO. Glad you came to join us. Hope you enjoy our chatroom. Where do you live? There are people from all over on the plauderzimmer. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.94.205 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:22:13 (UTC)

Olga:
marilu, I am from Michigan, near Detroit. And You?

- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:23:20 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Olga: I live in Kansas City, MO. My brother, Louis Jonke, lives in Okemos, Michigan. My married name is MURPHY Kind of odd for a Gottscheer. Maiden name Jonke. Lots of Jonkes all over the place.
- 66.140.94.205 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:23:42 (UTC)

Olga:
What is KCMO?

- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:24:03 (UTC)

Jim:
I read that they are thinking of replacing Sen.Wellstone with Fritz Mondale.
Margaret, congrats on the Chiefs. Trix, the Vikings finally won game number two. I am rooting for the SF Giants in the Series and it doesn't look that good right now.
- 64.12.97.9 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:24:44 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I was born in Minnesota but have lived in Colorado for 35 years.
- 198.81.26.166 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:25:55 (UTC)

Russell:
And I live in NYC.
- 152.163.188.195 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:30:34 (UTC)

Russell:
I wonder if Gov Ventura will appoint a temp senator?
- 152.163.189.201 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:31:52 (UTC)

Jim:
It has gone quiet in the room. I did take a shower since I worked in the garden earlier today. It is safe for you to come back!!! :)
- 64.12.96.42 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:41:50 (UTC)

Olga:
Or Gov Ventura could appoint himself!!!!!!
- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:42:29 (UTC)

Russell:
He might. After defeating Coleman 3 years ago, I don't think he'll appointment him to Senator
- 152.163.188.6 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:44:56 (UTC)

Russell:
Sometimes we don't know if someone's in here. So we wait for someone else to talk so that we can. Unfortunately that's what the other person is thinking.
- 152.163.189.205 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:46:34 (UTC)

Olga:
Does anyone have ancestors who came from Stari Trg?

- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:47:11 (UTC)

Olga:
I
- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:48:18 (UTC)

Russell:
My link to Gottscheer is a Joseph Eisenzoph born 12/22/1892. He was born I believe in Naples. But his father came from there.
- 152.163.189.134 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:49:49 (UTC)

Russell:
Worked in the Italian Royal Court. Unknown capasity. I think teacher.
- 152.163.188.4 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:50:53 (UTC)

Jim:
Is there a German name for Stari Trg? I have seen the village name and think it may be just right outside of the Gottschee borders.
- 64.12.96.70 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:51:13 (UTC)

Trix:
Good evening to you all. Tried earlier, didn't get to finish the job. Hope you are all doing well.

Yes, indeed a very sad time for Minnesota and certainly others too. Such tragedy! So hard to believe! ONE DAY AT A TIME.

Thank you for your kind thoughts. We have known and worked with Sen. Wellstone for 30 years. I have total respect and admiration for him and wife Sheila.

Welcome Olga. I have a sister by that name. Nice to meet you. I was born in Gottschee, resettled in 1941 and emigrated to MN in 1952. I am assuming y ou are of Gottscheer heritage too. May I ask from where?

Dr. Jim - hope you team wins. I did not even know the Vikings played. Good to hear that they won.

Yes, congratulations to the chiefs. They did good. Margaret, stick around for a while tonight.

Marily - sorry about the shortage of priest situation. I just got the feeling there will be many more walking in those shoes.

Russell - hi to you too. Hope you are doing well.

Regarding the Minnesota situation. I hear that Fritz Mondale is probably goiing be our candidate for the Nov. election. Nothing further will happen until after the memorial service on Tuesday. Such an unbelieve turn of events. Just goes to show that we never know what the next moment will bring for any of us. So, enjoy each day.
- 216.251.178.10 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:51:24 (UTC)

Olga:
oops. I meant to finish typing before sending. I would like to hear about Gottscheer's. I am not even sure that I am an ancestor of one.
- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:51:32 (UTC)

Trix:
Olga, what names would be in your family and what, if anything do you know about villages, dates etc. Dr. Jim, are you following this? No doubt you are - Danke.
- 216.251.178.10 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:53:26 (UTC)

Jim:
Olga, can you give us the names of your ancestors? That might help figure us figure things out.
- 64.12.96.46 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:53:50 (UTC)

Russell:
There is a link that goes to a brief history of Gottscheer that leads to this room. But no link here going back
- 152.163.188.164 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:54:22 (UTC)

Russell:
Maybe if you go to a search engine and type in "Gottschee". you might find it.
- 152.163.188.195 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:56:12 (UTC)

Olga:
The family names are OSTERMAN, MAJERLE, LOVRENCIC. The villages are Stari Trg, Vinica, Lodovce and Sinji vrh. They emmigrated in the early 1900's.
- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 02:57:06 (UTC)

Olga:
I was a a web site and someone told me the village of Stari Trg was part of Gottscheer, so while searching I found all of you. I just find it odd that my grandparents never seemed to mention Gottscheer to anyone. I am looking to learn more about this.

- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:00:37 (UTC)

Trix:
Is Stari Trg maybe Altenmarkt? I know we come across this area many times but I personally do not know much about it. It is in the southeastern most part of the former Gottscheer region. I do know that the priest there also serves the parish of Unterlag where the church is in the process of being renovated. Majerle, too, is a name closely associated with the Gottscheers. I am pretty sure there is a message regarding Majerle in the Kump - Staudacher Gottscheer bulletin board.
- 216.251.178.10 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:01:09 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
My family never mentioned gottscheer either. I found out 3 years ago that was one side of my family came from.
- 198.81.26.113 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:01:40 (UTC)

Trix:
Olga, you are one of many who tell us the same thing - that their ancestors never talked about their Gottscheer heritage. When they came to America they believed, or were told, they are in Amerika now. There is much to learn about your Gottscheer heritage and I appreciate the fact that you are interested. Welcome!!!
- 216.251.178.10 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:03:07 (UTC)

Olga:
Trix, thank you. I have left a lot of messages in my travels so it is probally mine. I am not sure if it is Altenmarket.
- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:03:44 (UTC)

Olga:
Oh great, I am not alone. I was 40 when I finally found out my correct heritage.
- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:05:07 (UTC)

Russell:
My mother had told me that her grandfather came from a region north of Italy. I forget off hand how I wound up in this room.
- 152.163.189.204 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:06:19 (UTC)

Russell:
I think I looked up Eisenzopf and Gottschee came up.
- 152.163.189.172 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:07:53 (UTC)

Olga:
My grandmother said she was from Austria and gave no further details.
- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:08:14 (UTC)

Olga:
Russel, Very interesting how we have ended up here.

- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:09:07 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Olga, I was 55!!!
- 198.81.26.230 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:10:14 (UTC)

Jim:
Olga, Ostermann, Maierle, and Laurentschitsch were the German spellings. Your ancestors may have come from either Gottschee or surrounding areas. Have you looked at the Ellis Island site? If you find them there, the listed residence may help.
- 64.12.97.11 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:10:42 (UTC)

Olga:
Marilu, LOL
- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:11:19 (UTC)

Olga:
Jim, I have spent most of the last six months on that site and the listed places are Lodovce, Austria. Speharje, Austria. and Sudefca, Slovenia. What do you think of those places?
- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:15:44 (UTC)

Olga:
I didn't mean to sound rude with the last response but I just can not quite going there. I keep getting lured back to look up one more thing. I think i am addicted. Does anyone else keep doing it too?
- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:18:13 (UTC)

Russell:
I thought being addicted to this thing means being on for hours on end.
- 152.163.189.204 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:22:02 (UTC)

Olga:
Yep, hours on end. Thats what I do.
- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:23:14 (UTC)

Jim:
Olga, join the club!!! Were those the place names associated with your ancestors? If they are, your ancestors were most likely not from Gottschee but from the surrounding Slovenian municipalities.
- 64.12.96.198 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:24:47 (UTC)

Trix:
Your grandmother was right - she is Austrian. The former Gottscheer region was part of the Austrian - Hungarian Empire until 1918. Our mother language is German even though we are Austrians. From 1918 to 1991 the region was part of Yugoslavia and since then (when Slovenia became an independent nation) the former Gottscheer region is now part of Slovenia.

You are definitely one of us - normal in every way including getting hooked or addicted to the Ellis Island site. Enjoy this exciting journey.
- 216.251.178.10 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:27:49 (UTC)

Russell:
When I first got a computer, I've pulled a few all nighters on it. A few more minutes turned into a few more hours.
- 152.163.189.203 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:28:19 (UTC)

Trix:
Yup, Russell I HEAR YOU. Been there, done that.
- 216.251.178.10 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:28:59 (UTC)

Russell:
Been there, done that. Can't believe I did it.
- 152.163.188.227 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:30:20 (UTC)

Olga:
Yes, those names were associated with my ancestors. I guess I am not from the Gottschee area but very close. Thank you very much for the information. Perhaps if I can go back another generation or two I will find a connection. I thought I might have hit on something here because I knew that my grandfather spoke German as well as Slovenian. Thanks again.

- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:31:29 (UTC)

Olga:
Well, I don't know about anyone else but I have got to go to bed it is past my bedtime. I have enjoyed your site and I would like to come and visit again sometime. Thanks to all of you.
- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:34:57 (UTC)

Russell:
I guess I'll turn in myself. Goodnight.
- 152.163.188.34 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:35:58 (UTC)

Jim:
Olga, don't give up too quickly. If you can list some of the names, I can see if I have anything on them. They may have moved back and forth. You can post them here or email me at DocH301454@aol.com.
- 64.12.96.231 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:36:07 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Olga, the town of Maierle and the last name of Maierle were associated with Gottschee. It is possible that someone from that family is from Gottsche if you can go back far enough and find a connection.
- 198.81.26.204 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:36:18 (UTC)

Trix:
To you all goodnight. Have a good week and think happy thoughts.
- 216.251.178.10 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:38:08 (UTC)

Olga:
Great, I'm not out of the game. I'll be back. When is this site open for talking again?
- 68.62.98.158 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:38:17 (UTC)

Jody Elmer:
Sorry to be so late; hope you haven't all signed off. Can anyone tell me what the numbers in the columns before and after names in the German Resettlement Records of Gottschee symbolize?
- 12.83.100.228 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:42:11 (UTC)

Jim:
Hi, Jody. Trix, do you know?
- 64.12.96.45 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:44:04 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
If I could find my book, I could probably tell you, but my filing system is not too good right now. lol
- 198.81.26.240 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:45:49 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, Stari Trg is listed as one of the towns in the resettlement records. I just found my book.
- 198.81.26.143 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:49:06 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I thought I would know what those numbers are, but I do not. Looks like some kind of a database number tho.
- 198.81.27.14 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:50:24 (UTC)

Jody Elmer:
Hi, Marilu. I noticed that family members seem to have sequential numbers in both the far left column and in the column to the right of the names. In fact, I thought I had found a way to track who was traveling with whom, but now I'm not so sure it always works. I do not understand any German, but it doesn't look to me like there is a list of column headings anywhere, or any other reference to the contents. Am I right?
- 12.83.100.228 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 03:59:16 (UTC)

Jim:
Time to go nighty night. Have a good week.
- 64.12.96.8 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 04:00:44 (UTC)

Jody Elmer:
By the way, it's great that your grandson is learning German. When I was growing up, with a family from both Austria and France, I wanted to learn one of those languages. My Mom insisted I take Spanish because we live so close to the Mexican border. A smart move on her part because it not only helped me in life, it kept me from understanding what she and my aunts were talking about!
- 12.83.100.228 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 04:03:56 (UTC)

Trix:
Olga: Here is the posting that I mentioned earlier on. Lets hope for a connection for you.

Majerle or Maierle

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Posted by Diane on October 19, 2002 at 17:15:19:

I have had such good luck with this site I would like to post another message.

I am looking for relatives of my Great Grandmother.
Katharin Majerle born April 4, 1847 in Stari trg ob Kolpi.
Her parent were Marko Majerle and Margareth Poshel.
Godparents were Michael Schneller and Maria Bischel.

She married George Osterman and they lived at Sodevce 11.

Thank you,
Diane

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Olga: If you wish click on Back and go to the main page. Then scroll down and find Gottscheer Bulletin Board (in red and small letters); double click on Diane's message to post your response, questions etc. GOOD LUCK!!!! If you need help please let us know.

- 216.251.178.10 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 04:25:40 (UTC)

Trix:
Jody: Regarding the numbers in the Resettlement publication.

The first numbers are the numbers assigned to the individuals who were part of the resettlement.

The second numbers are for the people as they arrived at their point of destination in Untersteiermark.

You, however, raise a very interesting question about the possibility of tracing the individuals by numbers. It never entered my mind but you may have a point. I don't know if this is of any help but when I inquired this is what I was told.

For anyone else who is wondering what we are talking about here let me say this. At the time of the 1941 - 1942 resettlement of the Gottscheers (from their homeland) to Untersteiermark records were kept of all who participated - approximately 12,000. The GHGA has obtained a copy of the official document and has it available to anyone who may wish to purchase it. It sells for $20.00 and is an excellent document. Everyone that has any connection to the resettlement should have a copy.I use it all the time and so do many others who do genealogy, connecting families etc.

And finally, Gute Nacht!
- 216.251.178.10 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 04:32:58 (UTC)

Jody Elmer:
Thank you so much, Trix, and Good Morning! I had been successfully using the column of numbers to the right (the column has fewer numbers, easier to scan). It had worked perfectly to find all of the members of a family, and sometimes led me to relatives or close associates with other surnames, but there is one person who remained "lost". After all, isn't that what genealogy is all about? You must always have one more puzzle ahead! Thank you so much for defining the columns; I will switch to using a different column and see what happens. Have a wonderful week!
- 12.83.102.153 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 13:00:53 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Monday-10-28-02 Sorry I was cut off so abruptly last night Don't know why, but my computer just wouldn't let me log on any longer. Anyway, have a super week. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.93.107 - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 14:05:15 (UTC)

Jody Elmer:
More on the numbers in the Resettlement Records:
All of you seasoned genealogists probably already have this figured out, but the numbers were apparently assigned by village and by house number. I used the village map to find out who lived in each house, and then looked up each surname. Sure enough, house #1's residents were listed first, then #2, etc. I couldn't find people from each house, but perhaps they left the village at another time. At any rate, using the numbered columns doesn't really help very much in your research and it's quite tedious. The only thing you might accomplish is finding a married woman's maiden name. Probably there's a better way to do that.
- 12.83.101.25 - Tuesday, October 29, 2002 at 00:14:19 (UTC)

Trix:
Have to hand it to you - You are one sharp lady. Thanks for sharing your findings. I did not know that either. Will now need to check my family records in the Resettlement book.
- 216.251.178.18 - Tuesday, October 29, 2002 at 01:04:31 (UTC)

Trix:
Thought for the Day:

"The future will belong to those who believe
in the beauty of their dreams."

U. S. Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota

- 209.240.245.72 - Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 15:40:10 (UTC)

Russell:
Nice thought.

Has Gov Ventura chosen anyone to take Wellstone's place?
- 152.163.188.8 - Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 20:33:28 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Russell. I have not heard about any appointment yet by Gov. Ventura. Boy, this campaign has turned into something quite unbelievable. Will be nice when it is over.
- 216.251.178.47 - Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 21:38:16 (UTC)

Irene:
i think I asked this question before but lost the response.

What software can people recommed to keep track of the family tree?
- 66.66.196.194 - Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 00:48:03 (UTC)

Russell:
I would think Family Tree Maker is good. I have it. However I've never been able to open the program to record any names. I use a binder with loose leaf in it.
- 152.163.188.65 - Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 02:40:21 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have been using Family Tree Maker for years, and I really like the program. I am using Version 8, but I know Version 10 will be out soon.
- 198.81.26.209 - Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 04:32:33 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
There is always the Family Tree Online at ancestry.com. I use it, but it allows others to read it. But I find that it helps with research because you can contact people to inquire wheather you are related to them.
- 199.243.152.164 - Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 07:42:08 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
A little hint for anyone who doesn't like buying software. Sometimes your local library has software that you can check out. I know mine does and it has Family Tree Maker. But I agree with Russell, nothing beats the old pen and paper. Don't have to worry about that "crashing"
- 199.243.152.164 - Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 07:45:12 (UTC)

Russell:
I think I used the Family Tree Online once to put down what I knew about family. However the infomation was "stolen" by other people. When I tried contacting those people to discuss what they knew, The mail came back "addresee unknown" It never mattered too much because I realised that I put down wrong infomation.
I also found my Aunt and Uncle on it. But her maiden name was listed as EISENZOFF. And my uncle's given name was Nunzio. I've known him as Nicky. The dates and locations are correct. Just an incorrectly spelled surname and a given name that I guess was translated. And the person who submitted that also had an unreachable addy.
The closest thing I get to crashing with pen and paper is if I knock the binder off the table.
- 152.163.188.197 - Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 11:41:40 (UTC)

Russell:
Maybe it was Rootsweb.
- 152.163.189.231 - Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 11:42:19 (UTC)

Jody Elmer:
I have worried about a "crash" also, and I always keep a backup of my file on a removable CD. I figure I could always get the program software again, but my data is (as the ads say) "priceless"!
- 12.83.100.159 - Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 12:52:42 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have many backups of my data, because I have found both floppys and cds can develope errors on the disk. So I have multiple backups, just in case. I have 7000 names in my database, from all sides of my family, and doing that by paper and pencils would be very difficult for me. Family Tree maker does charts and trees and family group sheets, and makes it easier for me to keep track of everybody. I have seperate sets of data for other families I am tracking also. I have made many contacts online from other people posting, which I am grateful for. I just cannot bring myself to post all of my names on the web. However I have left many messages about the families I am working on.
- 198.81.26.200 - Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 13:00:57 (UTC)

Russell :
The biggest problem I've had about findings on the internet is that sometimes the site disappears after I find it. Not a crash really. But the site is no longer there when I go back to it later. I've learned to make print copies whenever I find something. It's not documention perhaps. But it'll prove to someone I didn't make up an alleged claim,
- 64.12.96.78 - Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 21:47:08 (UTC)

Trix:
Happy Sunday to one and all. Hope you are enjoying a beautiful day. It is cooooold but sunny in Minnesota.

Possible topic for tonight: Remember Gottscheer stories as shared by your Gottscheer ancestors. There are many and all are important.

Thinks about them and let's give it a shot.
- 209.240.237.140 - Sunday, November 03, 2002 at 19:59:28 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Hi Everyone! Hope everyone is doing good.
- 209.240.198.61 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 01:43:56 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, John. Long time no hear. Hope all is well with you and your family.
- 205.188.208.133 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:01:13 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all had a good week. Cold and rainy in KCMO. Our Chiefs had a by week today. Resting up for the rest of the season.
- 66.140.92.38 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:07:48 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Has anyone compiled a book about Gottscheer remedies for illness?? Interesting "cures' that both my oma and my Bavarian grossmutter use.
- 66.140.92.38 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:13:48 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Margaret, Dr. Jim and John. How are you John? Long time no hear. Margaret and Dr. Jim, I hope you are both doing well.

Nippy here. It is suppose to rain a little and then going into warmer days. I am still waiting for Indian summer and am hopeful.
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:13:48 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, Margaret. Guten Abend to you as well. How are you doing?

- 205.188.209.140 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:14:02 (UTC)

Trix:
No, Margaret, no book yet on natural Gottscheer remedies but I know that is how they lived. Going to a doctor was pretty rare and then only in serious matters. You can see that many died pretty darn young. Needs to be done but who will do it? Time, time.
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:15:45 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone from beautiful Colorado.
- 198.81.26.110 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:15:54 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Been putting more and more Gottscheers into my main file. There are now over 200 names who had some connection with Kansas (either the state, KCK, or KCMO.
- 205.188.208.6 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:16:18 (UTC)

Trix:
Marilu, you should pretty darn chipper. Must be a beautiful day there, right
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:16:27 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Had computer problems last week. Couldn't keep on line. Had to log off. We are very well here, except for the dreary weather. We went 8 days with out sun. Makes you really crabby.
- 66.140.92.38 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:16:56 (UTC)

Trix:
Sorry Marilu, meant to say "You sound pretty...." Darn fingers anyway.
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:17:14 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Cold in NJ as well. Looks like it will be cold until at least the end of the week. Picked my last rose today and we are still ripening indoors a few tomatoes from the garden.
- 205.188.209.171 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:17:53 (UTC)

Trix:
Margaret, thanks. Now I know that people in Minnesota have a reason to be crabby. It certainly has been dull, dreary and drab but sunshine is coming.
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:18:25 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
My grandmothers were great believers in the curative powers of whiskey and turpentine. Turpentine for infections--whiskey for everything medicinal and just for fun.
- 66.140.92.38 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:18:32 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, it was a nice day here. We had cloudy weather and snow during the week, but the snow mostly melted yesterday and took the grandkids to the park this afternoon.
- 198.81.26.202 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:19:23 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
The cloudiness of the fall is depressing but the colors are sublime when the sun comes out. Yesterday the entire sky was cloudy except for one large patch. Everything under that patch of sun was in a brilliant array of fall colors.
- 205.188.209.140 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:19:28 (UTC)

Trix:
I agree Margaret. I think Slivovitz was used for everything. Can you imagine the burn from the turpentine on an open wound? Ouch! I know that my father put urine on a bad, bad axe cut on his knee. It worked.
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:20:24 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
The only time we got anything with alcohol was for swabbing the gums when our teeth hurt. Not sure what it was. Other than that, no folk remedies in our home.
- 205.188.208.170 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:20:47 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Urine is sterile most of the time so he knew what he was doing. Better than trying to clean it out with natural water.
- 205.188.209.137 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:21:37 (UTC)

Trix:
Our trees are almost bare. They started out so beautiful but it did not take long for them to blow away. I don't think we had much of a fall this year - very unusual. We are enjoying our wood fire around the clock and just loving it. Come 5 p.m. it is dark and we are in for the night.
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:22:24 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, I am working on a file for Sugar Creek and all the people connected there also. And one for Bistriz, because I know everyone in that town was related!!
- 198.81.27.12 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:22:36 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have been trying to order slivovitz for the store, and cannot find a supplier anymore. A couple of people here still like to buy it.
- 198.81.26.230 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:23:34 (UTC)

Trix:
Kamillen Tee (tea) is another great healer. When our daughter came home from the hospital she cried throughout the night. The next morning my father went to the market, found Kamillen Tee, made it, added a little sugar and gave it to her in a bottle. No crying after that. Lets face it, it either worked its magic or it scared the hell out of her. I still love to drink it.
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:24:51 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Trix, do you have electricity up there yet? :) Actually, I love a wood fire. Put one on yesterday for my daughter. She enjoys sitting in front of it and relaxing.
- 205.188.209.107 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:25:11 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Marilu, how is the file coming? They are never ending projects.
- 205.188.208.107 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:26:08 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Marilu: I would love to buy some slivovitz! We used to get it at specialty liquor stores, but not anymore. It reminds me of my father and his family. They rubbed it on, gargled, and sipped it. Miracle drug.
- 66.140.92.38 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:26:09 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I used to carry slivovitz all the time, but I think all the turmoil over there has made it hard to get here.
- 198.81.26.105 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:27:29 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Marilu: Are you referring to Sugar Creek, MO?? Also called sweet water around here? Big ethnic festival in Sugar Creek every year. Food, music, dancing and lots of fun. Non-Slavic people are also invited.
- 66.140.92.38 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:28:09 (UTC)

Trix:
Geez, didn't mean to post it twice. Have no idea how that happened.
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:28:27 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Also know the curative effects of Kamillen tea. Gastric upsets are helped by the tea.
- 66.140.92.38 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:29:27 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, you are right. those files are never ending. I am supposed to be getting my Underberg book ready, and I keep working on those darn Gottscheers!! I made contact with another branch of the Peschel family from Sugar Creek this last week, and he had a few new things for me. Someone in that family has some pictures I would like copies of some day. Pictures taken in the late 1800's in Sugar Creek.
- 198.81.26.233 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:30:44 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Hi Everyone! What's everyone been up to. I have been reassigned with Xerox to Salt Lake City and so not getting much done. The account that I'm at has been some need of cleaning up and I ended up with the job and after about a month I'm finally getting it up and running efficiently.
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:31:48 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Margaret, it is Sugar Creek, Waterford Township, Clinto County Iowa. There were lots of Gottscheers there from Tschernembl Parish.
- 198.81.26.235 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:31:49 (UTC)

Trix:
Marilu and Margaret: You will both have to go on one of the trips to Gottschee. The people that you befriend love to give bottles of Slivovitz. One year I ended up with 10 Liters. Gave all but 4 away. Packed 2 in my suitcase and carried on 2. About halfway across the Atlantic I picked up this odor (I have a good nose as do probably all Gottscheers). Before long I heard others sniffing and I finally had to admit what it was. In checking I found that the cork had come loose. You can just imagine the smell, can't you? It was funny, very funny in fact.

Our respite helper just returned from Germany. He brought 2 cases of his favorite wine. Brought them as "carry on" and never had a problem. I thought the limit was 2 bottles per person. Good for him. He loves the German wine.
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:32:11 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
thats Clinton County
- 198.81.27.13 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:32:44 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Love to quote my oma, "At home, if you got sick you either got better or died." Modern people say that illness if "self-limiting". Just what my oma said almost a century ago.
- 66.140.92.38 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:33:20 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Our family has exciting new. It looks like we will be leaving to live in Grenoble, France in about 6 wks to 2 months. I have accepted an offer to be an office manager for the LDS church in Grenoble. We are right now trying to learn the French we will need to use in a short amount of time.
- 209.240.198.61 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:33:50 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
John Oh wow how exciting.
- 198.81.26.136 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:34:51 (UTC)

Trix:
What a great quote Margaret. I love it. Never heard it myself but it is certainly something the Gottscheers would say. Good, common sense phrases. Any more?
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:35:02 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
We will be assigned there for 5 years.
- 209.240.198.60 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:35:29 (UTC)

Trix:
John, CONGRATULATIONS
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:35:40 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
John: Contratulations. I know you will love your new job and new lifestyle. God speed. Wish I knew how to say "God speed" in German.
- 66.140.92.38 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:36:42 (UTC)

Trix:
to continue on John - I am so happy for you. What an opportunity for you, your wife and your children. Not all that far from Gtotschee you know. I certainly hope you will stay in touch.

Trix
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:36:50 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I would love one of those jobs in Germany!! lolol
- 198.81.26.203 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:36:56 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Hi Trix,
Sorry I haven't dropped you a note, but I have been so busy that I haven't done much corresponding. How are things in Minnesota, I'm sure cold? It has been to 9 above here in Utah and that is really cold for here this early.
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:37:04 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Must sign off. Work to do. EVERYONE Remember to get out and vote on Tuesday. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.38 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:39:17 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
John, congratulations from NJ as well. Will Xerox be able to live without your services? Their loss is France's gain.
- 205.188.208.7 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:40:14 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
I believe we will be about a days drive from Gottschee. Living in Wyoming you don't think about driving 5 or 6 hours to a place. Not knowing a lot about driving in Europe I don't think it is real far. We will be only 90 minutes from Geneva and 3 hours from Paris. The kids are excited because they now have a Disneyland in Paris. So we will only be a little ways away from some spectacular places in Europe. This will also give me an opportunity to take one of the Gottschee tours when the GHGA has them.
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:40:16 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Good night, Margaret. As Trix always says --- remember to vote early, vote often, and vote Republican. At least, I think that is what Trix says.
- 205.188.208.169 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:41:08 (UTC)

Trix:
Considering everything John, including the changes in health for The Judge, life is still good. We are still at home, I have turned out to be an excellent nurse etc and in spite of it all would not change a thing.

Life is busy and the days seem to fly. My work on Project Gottschee gets almost overwhelming but it is so exciting and so much fun. Nothing like connected with someone from my part of the region and sharing and bonding.

Kids are fine, productive members of society and grandchildren are growing.
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:41:38 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
I'm sure Xerox will survive me leaving. At this point Xerox and it's employee's have very shaky relationship. I got my first raise in 3 years this year. Not only did we not get raises, but our benefits went from about $45 dollars a month to almost $200. That was a big blow to a lot of employee's who made low wages in the first place.
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:43:03 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
That was a good one Jim. I'm sure Trix will get you back for that one.
- 209.240.198.61 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:44:01 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
From what you say, it sounds like a great thing for you and your family. What about schooling for them? Will they be going to French schools?
- 205.188.209.12 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:46:06 (UTC)

Trix:
Dr. Jim, I am so glad I like you. But, do get out and vote even if you must vote for the old candidate in NJ. You experience is everything.
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:49:23 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Trix,
Good to hear things are going good on the home front. It's tough to be a home nurse and do something with the rest of your life. It can be consuming. I'm so excited to go to Europe. I will now be able to add to my collection of family history photo's of these areas. My Mother's parents were born only an hour from where we will be living in France. It is such an exciting prospect, but scary to be thrown into a new culture and having to learn a language that I'm not very familiar with. The German I would have felt more confortable with.
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:50:16 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Jim,
The schools are very good in Grenoble. The actually have four universities. The kids will go to American-French private school. The school is for American's who are abroad and the LDS church pays for the tuition. We could never afford such a schoo. The kids will learn English and French simultaneously. We just got a tape yesterday and our kids already know most of the alphabet. It will take me much longer. I'm still having trouble pronouncing the alphabet.
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:53:14 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
John, I do not know much about you. Have you worked in the LDS library where you live now, or how did you get so lucky to go to France.
- 198.81.26.204 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:54:09 (UTC)

Trix:
If I remember correctly Grenoble is in the beautiful mountain area and the Olympics were held there once, right? John, don't worry. You will do fine. Besids many will speak English, you can utilize your German and everything is going to be a-1 ok. I know it will. I am just tickled pink for you.
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:56:26 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
John, as my daughter would say, it is a once in a lifetime chance. What an experience it will be.
Marilu, John is the Jedi Ebental master. Much of what I have on that parish is from his extensive work on the films.
- 205.188.209.42 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:58:15 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, no wonder they want him then!!!
- 198.81.26.107 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 02:59:13 (UTC)

Trix:
Regarding your note about the workplace John. What is happening throughout the country? It is such a sad situation with so many people loosing their jobs, their security, their pensions. Things have to change for the better for us to continue to lead the rest of the world in the "good quality of life" category.
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:00:58 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Marilu,
It really is luck that we are going to France!
The reason for me being lucky is that I was working with a distant cousin on her genealogy in Utah. We both have many of the same ancestral lines in France. I met her on the internet and we got to be good friends. We are actually 6th Cousins. Her husband was working for the LDS church and he was recommended for this position and he thought of me and asked if I would like to be the office manager. I mulled it over for about a second and said "yes". I have worked in LDS libraries, but only as an unpaid consultant and helped to set up one library in Wyoming.
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:04:00 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
The state of the economy rests on so many things. The overheated tech stocks that finally cooled down, the constant worries about war and terrorism, the accounting scandals at multiple high profile companies. I just hope that we stabilize and start to creep forward again. Otherwise I will have to work harder and have less time to hunt for stray Gottscheers.
- 205.188.209.72 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:04:20 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Maybe you could get really lucky and be assigned to start a new branch office in Gottschee. They need the help. The only two times that I have seen an official Slovenian document related to genealogy, they were both wrong. Can you imagine people paying to get these official papers and they have the wrong husband or wife!!
- 205.188.209.16 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:06:31 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, John, I can see why you only hesitated a second! Good luck on your new venture. Are the kids excited also? I would assume so.
- 198.81.26.199 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:08:40 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
I guess I better explain that this job really has nothing to do with genealogy or family history. It actually is going to be a training office for Priesthood leadership for the LDS church. We actually don't know everything that is going to happen at this office, but that is the basic reason. The LDS church is in it's infancy in France and Italy and they need a lot of ecclesiastical training and etc.
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:10:59 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Good luck with your training. I am sure you will do well.
- 205.188.208.139 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:13:28 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Jim,
So are you still working on your database? It sounded like it from the notes below.
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:14:17 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I now have three databases in the works. One is the main file compiled from many sources, both online and offline. It has over 50000 names in it. The second is the Ellis Island Gottscheer file with almost 20000 names in it. A lot of people helped with the information contained in both of them. The third is smaller and is a listing of the name variations and misspellings that I have come across while buzzing through the Ellis Island lists.
- 205.188.209.101 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:17:52 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
When I use those databases in conjunction with rootsweb.com and EllisIsland.org, I can sometimes come up with good connections.
- 205.188.209.77 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:18:55 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
I still can't find my Grandfather's on the Ellis Island database. I don't know if their names were spelled incorrectly or why I can't find them. I find their brothers and sisters, but not them. I have their papers and know that they came through Ellis Island.
- 209.240.198.60 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:21:43 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, maybe I should be asking you more questions about my Peschel families!
- 198.81.26.139 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:22:43 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Either the original clerks or the modern day transcribers misspelled something. I have seen some horrific mistakes. The names are bad enough but the place names are even worse.
- 205.188.209.37 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:25:50 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Marilu, I am sure you have more information on the Peschels. I will help you out when I can but your Peschels came over too early for the Ellis Island site and from an area in Gottschee that is not a strong point.
- 205.188.208.71 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:27:08 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, I know they came over to early for Ellis Island. Except for a few straglers, and I can't find them either! lol
- 198.81.26.235 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:28:30 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
The town names are very hard to transcribe. I've seen some of my family town names pretty well destroyed in translation. You can't fault the transcribers because many of the names only known by the people who looking for them. It is very hard to get the names right.
- 209.240.198.61 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:29:16 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
The misspellings in the Ellis Island records is about as bad as the 1880 census records.
- 198.81.26.236 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:29:36 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I have ten Peschls in the Ellis Island list. Some with variant spellings.
- 205.188.208.107 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:30:08 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I have ten Peschls in the Ellis Island list. Some with variant spellings.
- 205.188.208.107 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:30:10 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Good night everyone! Will talk to you all later in the month when I know more.
- 209.240.198.61 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:30:54 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
You are right John, and they have done a tremondous job getting it all online for all of us to use.
- 198.81.26.198 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:30:56 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, only a couple of those are my family. I have spent hours searching those records also. For as many different spellings as I can think of, and the ones that Ellis Island gives you also.
- 198.81.27.8 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:32:15 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
John, I understand the difficulty. The GHGA tried to get the Ellis Island foundation to allow us to publish the list for Gottscheers to use. They refused. It would have helped both out since I could have sent them the list with the corrections (as best as we could figure them out). This way we get something and they get something.
- 205.188.209.72 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:33:34 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
As it is now, the list is good to compile but can not be published.
Anyhow, have a good night. Nice to hear from you.
- 205.188.209.144 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:34:27 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night John and save travels
- 198.81.26.204 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:35:17 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
whoops that is safe travels
- 198.81.26.167 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:35:32 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I guess we have outlasted the others. I am going to check some emails and then sign off for the night. Marilu and those that remain, have a good night and week.
- 205.188.208.137 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:42:15 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Same here. Good night Jim, and everyone else. Have a good week.
- 198.81.26.145 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:44:45 (UTC)

Trix:
Finally got back. Gute Nacht alle miteinder. Ich wünsche Euch eine gute Woche.
- 216.251.169.11 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 03:50:20 (UTC)

Russell:
Sorry I came on late.
- 205.188.209.82 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 04:12:57 (UTC)

B. Kinkopf:
After years of researching through family records, verbal stories and using the internet I have finally traced my roots to the Gottschee area, and I must say that so far I am very impressed with the history of the area and people. Very unique indeed! It took a long time due to mispelled names of towns, etc in the family history. It's a long story but I finally tracked my great grandfather to the village of Tiefenreuter (Josef Kinkopf born - 1885) and my great grandmother to the village of Altlag (Anna Jancic - born 1890). Hopefully I can chat on here from time to time to learn more about the area and people.
- 209.137.140.34 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 19:01:06 (UTC)

jürgen stalcer:
hallo,from germany!!
- 195.93.74.16 - Monday, November 04, 2002 at 20:41:22 (UTC)

Trix:
Gottscheer Greetings from Minnesota to both Jürgen Stalcar and B. Kinkopf. Welcome to the Gottscheer Plauderzimmer. We hope you will visit often.

I was born in the Moschnitze area of the former Gottschee, resettled in 1941 and arrived in Minnesota in 1952. I, too, was born a Stalzer Jürgen spelled a little different than your name but close enough.

We all look forward to hearing from you both. Congratulations B. Kinkopf. You are right - the story of the Gottscheers who "worked, lived and loved the land" is unique indeed.

Enjoy a good day and Danke to you both.
- 216.251.169.8 - Tuesday, November 05, 2002 at 02:26:39 (UTC)

Russell:
8:33 PM in NYC. Anyone around?
- 205.188.209.10 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 01:33:47 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
The board is a little quiet tonight!
- 209.240.198.60 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 02:19:56 (UTC)

Russell:
9:23 PM. Still no one on. Or is there?
- 205.188.209.72 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 02:23:16 (UTC)

Russell:
I think I hear crickets. How about you?
- 205.188.208.40 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 02:23:59 (UTC)

Ridy:
Help! Somebody build us an Ark quickly! We've been having the worst downpour for a couple of hours now, complete with thunder and lightening. I've just gone to get a candle and matches -- just in case.
- 64.229.232.209 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 02:38:23 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Sorry to be so late. Big time trouble with my computer. Wouldn't let me log on. Hope all are well. Sorry about all the rain Ridy. No clue on how to build an ark. We have a bass boat you could borrow.
- 66.140.94.228 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 02:40:27 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Trix: How do you say, "Sorry to be so late" in German?? Will add it to my little book of handy German phrases. Thanks so much.
- 66.140.94.228 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 02:44:26 (UTC)

Ridy:
What's a bass boat?

- 64.229.232.209 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 02:44:28 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: It's a big fishing boat. Some are made in Arkansas.
- 66.140.94.228 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 02:45:52 (UTC)

Ridy:
Where do you go fishing in Kansas? I should look on the map, but I don't have one handy. . .
- 64.229.232.209 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 02:47:23 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: I live in Kansas City, Missouri. There is a Kansas City, Kansas, right next door to us, but we are from MO My relatives in NY have trouble with that, too. MO and KS both have corps of engineer lakes (man-made).
- 66.140.94.228 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 02:48:56 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Sorry to log off so early. Have a super week. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.94.228 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 02:51:05 (UTC)

Ridy:
We live a couple of blocks from Lake Ontario, but where we are the bluffs are pretty high, so we're in no danger of flooding. Christopher lives on the Lake downtown, and I would think that if this rain keeps up there's a good possibility the street in front of his apartment building will be very wet! However, it's a vey big lake, so the chances of that happening probably exist only in my imagination.
- 64.229.232.209 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 02:53:21 (UTC)

Ridy:
End of weather report from Toronto!
- 64.229.232.209 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 02:54:23 (UTC)

znarf:
hau gos it?
- 172.146.248.165 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 03:07:25 (UTC)

Ridy:
Grüß Dich, Franz~
Long time no hear!
- 64.229.232.209 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 03:11:24 (UTC)

znarf:
hau gos it?
- 172.146.248.165 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 03:16:29 (UTC)

Russell:
Sorry, I was detained by a former classmate from High school.
- 205.188.209.9 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 03:49:48 (UTC)

Russell:
I think "Ich bin traurig, daß ich spät bin" might pass for saying I'm sorry to be late.
- 205.188.208.104 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 03:52:55 (UTC)

Ridy:
Russell:
What you are saying is that you are sad you're late.
"Es tut mir leid . . . ."would be closer to it.
- 64.229.232.209 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 04:00:25 (UTC)

Russell:
Well I am a little sad to be late.
- 205.188.208.72 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 04:06:52 (UTC)

Ridy:
I'm more than a little sad that the number of participants in the Plauderzimmer seems to be dropping off.
- 64.229.232.209 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 04:11:45 (UTC)

Russell:
Maybe if there was a way of knowing who's in the room, people might decide to stay.
- 205.188.209.139 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 04:14:00 (UTC)

Ridy:
I really don't think that's the problem, or the solution. I suspect it has more to do with the quality of the discussions. My earlier rant about the weather in Toronto certainly doesn't rise to the level of interest anywhere but right here where I am. But when you're talking to yourself, you're sort of limited when it comes to choosing acceptable topics!
- 64.229.232.209 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 04:19:21 (UTC)

Russell:
If I knew there were people in here, I'd be staying around longer to talk to them. And the more people that talk, the more conversation will go on.
- 205.188.209.39 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 04:27:38 (UTC)

Russell:
And if someone else was in here, they might be encourged to talk if they knew someone else was here.
- 205.188.209.136 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 04:30:25 (UTC)

Russell:
And if you're in here, I have no way to know that unless you say something.
- 205.188.208.135 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 04:31:25 (UTC)

Ridy:
Sorry, Russell ~ I don't know the solution to the problem.
And because it's past my bedtime, I'll say Gute Nacht and leave you with this lullaby. . . .
Schlaf, Kindlein, schlaf!
Der Vater hüt' die Schaf;
Die Mutter schüttelts Bäumelein,
Da fällt herab ein Träumelein,
Schlaf, Kindlein, schlaf!

- 64.229.232.209 - Monday, November 11, 2002 at 04:33:50 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I'm finally back on-line. I had a computer problem but back in business.
- 199.243.152.19 - Wednesday, November 13, 2002 at 00:18:12 (UTC)

Irene:
Hi Sharon,

Welcome back.

- 66.66.196.194 - Wednesday, November 13, 2002 at 00:48:23 (UTC)

Mathias Renner:
Metnitz 17, A-9813 Möllbrücke is my Adress in Austria,pleas
send me the Adress from Johann Aigner. Hi habits in Newyork
or Maryland. He married a girl from Gottsche in the 40th or
50th. Her pastname was Linhart. If somboddy know somwat about them, I beg for information. My email: mm.renner@net4you.at
- 194.177.140.120 - Friday, November 15, 2002 at 23:27:21 (UTC)

Mathias Renner:
Hallo Gottscheer Im Plauderzimmer! - Ich habe einige "Plau-dereien" gelesen und sehe Euer Interesse für das Gottscheer-land. - Ich wohne nur 200 km vavon entfernt und war schon öfter dort. Bei Interesse gebe ich gerne Auskunft, wie es heute dort ausschaut, usw. Herzliche Grüsse und bitte um Information über Johann Aigner. Er ist mit seiner Familie in den 50er Jahren nach Newyork ausgewandert und hat dort eine Zuckerbäckerei - Konditorei - betrieben. Mit Gruss! Mathias Renner, email: mm.renner@net4you.at
- 194.177.140.120 - Friday, November 15, 2002 at 23:47:24 (UTC)

Trix:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Caroline Mary Meditz n/a
I have been trying to find a page like this for months! I just have one question:Does anyone here know of the famous cellist Gert Meditz? Supposedly I am related.
Wethersfield, Connecticut USA - Thursday, November 14, 2002 at 16:58:22 (UTC)
- 209.240.245.97 - Saturday, November 16, 2002 at 01:19:00 (UTC)

pat:
Trix, havn't been on in awhile, just wanted to share with you that my daughter wrote to senator welstone and upon his answering her back also included an 8x10 picture of himself, which she received a few days before his tragedy....pat stonish warning.....
- 63.188.33.22 - Saturday, November 16, 2002 at 03:07:05 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Pat. So good to hear from you. What a nice remembrance from Sen. Wellstone. We have known him and worked with him for 30 years. Such a tragedy!

I hope you are both ding well. Still living near Scranton?
- 209.240.245.97 - Saturday, November 16, 2002 at 04:40:20 (UTC)

Paul B.:
wISHING YOU ALL A VERY PLEASANT WEEKEND...hOPE THIS WEEKEND'S CHAT GOES WELL FOR EVERYONE...AND HELLO TO YOU TRIX--IT HAS BEEN AWHILE--BUSY LIFE-WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY...
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, November 16, 2002 at 18:34:31 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Paul. You are so right. How can we be so busy? We are cleaning house, getting rid of junk that should have been thrown years ago. What a job!!!

Good to hear from you. May everyone have a good weekend. Brrr here.
- 216.251.178.33 - Saturday, November 16, 2002 at 22:33:24 (UTC)

Trix:
Mathias Renner. I tried to send you an e-mail but it was returned. Please list your e-mail address again. Danke. Meine Jugendjahre have ich in Altfinkenstein by Latschach, Kärnten verbracht. (I spent my youth in Altfinkenstein etc._
- 216.251.178.33 - Saturday, November 16, 2002 at 23:21:07 (UTC)

Irene:
Hi everyone.

I had a relative named Frank Anthony Meditz.
- 66.66.196.5 - Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 02:16:40 (UTC)

Irene:
To Mathias Renner

I found a John Aigner who lives in Brooklyn NY. His age is 64. Is this the same Aigner?
- 66.66.196.5 - Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 02:23:47 (UTC)

Irene:
Trix,

I hear Garrison Keeler on the radio today. Does the sun really wake up at 9:00am and goes to bed at 3:00pm in Minn?
- 66.66.196.5 - Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 02:26:10 (UTC)

Irene:
To: Caroline Mary Meditz ,

I just typed in "Gert Meditz" in google. I got several hits in German Seems he is a famous musician and conductor.
- 66.66.196.5 - Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 02:30:09 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Irene. Regarding the comments by Garrison Keeler - don't you believe them. The days are definitely shorter but not quite that bad. Have a good, good Sunday.

How goes the project? Can you see daylight?
- 209.240.245.112 - Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 15:52:24 (UTC)

Trix:
OK everyone - the Minnesota Vikings need your prayers today. A victory for us would be GREAT! I appreciate your support.
- 209.240.245.156 - Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 19:00:24 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Yes Trix, That is what our life consists of these days-but sometimes it is really tough to catch up. I am going to try my best to get on the PZ tonite...Happy Sunday, and we are Brrrr too!
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 21:05:44 (UTC)

Russell:
For what it's worth (NO COMMENTS PLEASE!) I'm here.
- 152.163.189.71 - Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 23:55:15 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Russell. It is nice that you are here and it is worth a lot. Russell, have you ever heard of a Gottscheer Sampler?
It is usually stitched by school children?
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 00:58:24 (UTC)

Russell:
I can't say I have. I remember in kindergarden the class had to sew wool thru a plastic fencing. I think it was to be a bookmark. All I remember is I jabbed myself in the finger with the dull needle.
- 152.163.188.69 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:06:28 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hi Russell and Trix ~
Thought I'd check in early because I don't think my eyes will stay open all that long this evening.
I have been wondering if any of you have any interesting memorabilia from your Gottscheer ancestors, and what it might be. I have a "Pipitzle", which is a typical pocketknife with one blade, which Gottscheer kids carried and used for whittling, and I also have a hand-made whistle, which still works. The knives were always gaily colored, but mine has lost all it's paint by now. They were gifts -- not my own originally. I also have a few pieces of the lace which were produced in my grandparents' shop almost a century ago now. What sorts of keepsakes do you have?
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:07:22 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Ridy. I don't think I have a single item from my mom and dad. I do have the prayer book that my grandmother gave to her oldest son when he came to America in the 20's. Actually it belongs to my cousin Milt (the son of this man) but he gave it to me. Now he has a grandson, 3 years old named after our grandfather Andreas and I am thinking he is the one who should have his great-grandfather's German prayer book.

- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:14:29 (UTC)

Trix:
Regarding the Samplers. We know that there was a traveling teacher who taught this art in Lienfeld, one of the numerous schools near the City of Gottschee. There must be other samplers around, assuming, of course, that the Gottscheers were able to save anything during the war.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:15:56 (UTC)

Russell:
Closest I have is a black and grey striped sweater that my mother gave her father about 40 years ago. I liked it because it was a simple sweater and I could use it for waering at work. When I was allowed to wear it, all the buttons fell off.

My mother has her father's old pocket watch. I think she still does. Hopefully she'll let me have it.

Maybe not keepsakes as you might have thought of.
- 152.163.189.170 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:16:10 (UTC)

Ridy:
Trix -
You picked up my thoughts exactly. I was given the items I have by relatives (now deceased) who felt that I was the ideal member of the family to keep them. Now I'm starting to wonder who should eventually receive them to keep them safe for the entire family. When you only have a few treasured items, it's hard to decide to whom they should be entrusted. I definitely want to make sure that they will be cherished in the family for a long time to come, simply because there is so little left.
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:20:13 (UTC)

Ridy:
Russell - whatever reminds you of the past and the person who owned it is a keepsake in my book!

- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:22:34 (UTC)

Russell:
Probably the closest I can come up to a keepsake now would be census reports for 1900 and 1920. At least there would be a copy of my Grandfather's handwriting.
- 152.163.189.198 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:23:52 (UTC)

Ridy:
I remember that my grandmother had a beautiful large oval locket which I was not allowed to wear or play with. It was too precious to risk losing it. I've dreamed about that locket for years and years. While I was downtown on Saturday I was passing a store window, and they had lockets on display. Against my better judgement, I went in, and bought myself an oval locket, just about the same size as grandmother's was. Not in gold like hers, just in silver. But it's beautiful, especially because it reminds me of hers. It was a good day and I'm very pleased with myself! I would give anything to know where that locket ended up - we were not able to save any jewellery, of course, and if we had, I'm sure it would have been traded in for food.
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:28:23 (UTC)

Ridy:
Russell - I know what you mean about handwriting! I've saved every scrap of paper on which there is anything hand-written by my grandparents, aunts and uncles, and my parents and brother, of course.
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:31:09 (UTC)

Russell:
I've also collected the names from my mother's phone book. It helped me when I was looking up people in the SSDI.
- 152.163.189.168 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:33:01 (UTC)

Ridy:
That's interesting! I still have my mother's phone book and I must look through it one of these days!
I've discovered some relatives recently (mostly with Jim Heimann's help) I never knew I had. I never thought to look through mother's address book to see if she had any record of them.
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:38:18 (UTC)

Russell:
Any Gottscheers in Canada or US or England in 1880?
- 152.163.189.101 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:39:22 (UTC)

Ridy:
I don't know about Canada or England, but definitely in the USA. Martha Hutter has written an article about Gottscheer immigrants to the US about 150 years ago, if I recall correctly. Canada was not a popular destination until the early part of the 1900s. I know there are Gottscheers living in England now, but I think they settled there after WWII. We also have Gottscheers in Australia and South America!
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:43:04 (UTC)

Russell:
The addresses are mostly useless now. And the people have passed on. But it gives a glimpse of who was who.
- 152.163.188.6 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:43:08 (UTC)

Russell:
FamilySearch.com has the 1880 US census. And the 1881 Canadian and English censuses. I found it good for looking up my GGGrandparents. Not from Gottscheer, though. But maybe someone elses relatives are in there.
- 152.163.188.200 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:45:49 (UTC)

Ridy:
By the way, completely off topic, I notice that Tom Mauser has updated his son's web site recently. Daniel Mauser was one of the students killed at Columbine. He was a third cousin of mine. . . .which I only discovered after the tragedy. Somewhere along the way one of the 's' was dropped.
http://www.danielmauser.com/
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:47:10 (UTC)

Russell:
I wouldn't consider your 3rd cousin to be off topic.
- 152.163.189.237 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 01:48:26 (UTC)

Nancy:
Helmuth, are you on the site tonight?
- 205.188.209.78 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:03:00 (UTC)

Jim:
Good evening to everyone.
- 64.12.96.9 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:03:21 (UTC)

Russell:
Hello Nancy and Jim.
- 152.163.189.198 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:03:48 (UTC)

Ridy:
Wow - I just managed to restart my computer after it crashed on me. Wish I had a dollar for every time I get that irritating "this program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down" message! However, the problem will be solved in a few days. Christopher already has my new computer and he'll bring it out as soon as he has time. This weekend was a write-off anyway, because when it snows in Toronto - and it's still snowing - the city comes to a standstill! I think we pretend all year that we live in the tropics and when we get snow we don't know how to cope.
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:05:35 (UTC)

Jim:
Ridy, quite a few Maussers dropped the second "s". Actually, the second s was added here to approximate the German letter. Some never added the second s and only used one from the start. There are quite a few Mausers listed at the Ellis Island site.

Trix, someone must have been praying for the Vikings. They beat the cheeseheads.
- 64.12.96.76 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:07:30 (UTC)

Ridy:
Do you mean the name was originally spelled with a sharp ß instead of the two ss's?
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:09:45 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
That is how I think it was originally spelled.

I just sent an email to the Mauser site. I offered to send them a family file.
- 64.12.97.7 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:16:46 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, Russell and Nancy. Have the wires gone quiet again.
Margaret, if you check in, congrats on the Chiefs. Buffalo is a tough team.
- 64.12.96.7 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:17:37 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Dr. Jim. You are right - we actually watched the entire game - first time this year. Our son brought us his Sony 32" screen TV last weekend; had it connected with an additional antenna. Out of it we get beautiful reception on a big screen and Fox, which carried the game. They played terrific today. Maybe it's because 2 of our 3 kids were at the game.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:21:22 (UTC)

Ridy:
That spelling is interesting, Jim. I've only seen it spelled with the two ss's in our family. But almost all Gottscheer names seems to go through an evolution every now and then. Just like Ridi - which became Ridy over here.
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:22:22 (UTC)

Trix:
Does anyone know what has happened to Chicago Franz? My gosh, it has been months. I hope he is ok
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:22:43 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I still think they have problems. Culpepper is still fumbling. At least the running game is coming back. They needed that more than they thought. The defense is still weak.

I have not heard from Franz in a while.
- 64.12.97.9 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:25:02 (UTC)

Ridy:
I thought it was Franz last week when he posted a message or two with Franz spelled backwards. Just thought it would be the sort of thing he'd do.....
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:26:20 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Ridy,
I have seen so many spellings for names, it is amazing. Every time I bump into one, I try to catalogue it. There are usually more out there. For instance, I tried to think of another way that the transcribers could make a mistake with Matzelle so I put Matgelle in the EllisIsland.org search engine. Came up with a family of three coming over to their father/husband who was already here. I then linked them up with records that Kate and the GHGA had compiled.
- 64.12.96.137 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:27:26 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I guess Znarf wasn't Frank. I think Franz has a twinkle in his eye but I don't think he would do that.
- 64.12.97.6 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:28:07 (UTC)

Trix:
Question to the geniuses in the Plauderzimmer. I received some beautiful photos via e-mail form Germany today. I mean, they are beautiful. I printed one out and am so disappointed in the quality on paper. Do photos, sent by e-mail, loose their brilliance or could it be my printer? Would appreciate any thoughts.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:29:06 (UTC)

Trix:
Do you think we should try calling Chicago Franz?
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:30:09 (UTC)

Ridy:
You can't really blame the people who wrote down the names of the immigrants. For one thing, they couldn't speak English and making themselves understood would have been an exercise in futility. Also the writing styles are different and having them write their name down could easily lead to errors. Sometimes I think it's a miracle that any of us have names which resemble the originals.
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:30:42 (UTC)

Ridy:
Oh well -- if it wasn't 'our' Franz then I got cheeky with a stranger. Par for the course, one might say.
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:32:36 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Ridy, not blaming anyone. Just noting. For those who are using the site, it is good to know where the mistakes are or might be ---- j or g for z, n for u (Schaner instead of Schauer), and so on. Once you see a mistake, you can look for it in other names with the same letter.
- 64.12.96.9 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:35:16 (UTC)

Trix:
New posting in the Gottscheer Bulletin Board:

graduates of St. Matthias School in Ridgewood, NY

Posted by Elaine Tramposch-Haufe on November 18, 2002 at 02:31:27:

Since Ridgewood was a hot spot for Gottscheers and St. Matthias is in operation for 93 years, I thought it would be a good place to post an alumni search here. Looking for all St. Matthias alumni ( we have located them as far back as 1928) to build current alumni database and plan a reunion in 2004 to celebrate the school's 95th anniversary. You may respond directly to this posting with your name (maiden name ,if applicable; year of graduation; current mailing address; tel number and email optional. Or if you feel more comfortable you may respond to the school's email:
alumni@stmatthiaschool.org Either way I will receive the info. In near future we will be mailing newsletters, and posting a web site. Thank you to Helmuth for allowing me to post this type of message.

- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:38:01 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Trix,
it could be a couple of things. I am not one of the geniuses but it could be the ink cartridge. When they get low, the colors will be washed out. Also, what type of paper are you using? It should be dedicated photo paper with either a matte or glossy finish. And some printers have a special area that you have to chose when using photo paper. Finally, the printer itself could be the problem if it doesn't have the necessary fine quality settings. I would check the cartridges, then the paper. If that does not fix it, then it may be the age of the printer.
- 64.12.96.205 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:38:22 (UTC)

Ridy:
I understand, Jim. It always brings to my mind the story here in Canada where we have the most improbable spellings, especially during one rather short period where an Irish chap at immigration made every foreign name into an Irish name by adding O' as a prefix. Therefore we have names like O'Billovich! And it stuck, too!
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:38:42 (UTC)

Trix:
Regarding the many errors on the Ellis Island site, I think it would nice if we could help correct them. Some of those names of both individuals and villages are very familiar to many of us where to non Gottscheers they would not mean a thing. What you think?
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:39:30 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Trix,
That is a great posting. I wonder if the school could help them out by sending them a roster. There are privacy issues but other schools do it. I certainly get my solicitations from every school that I have gone to.
- 64.12.96.43 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:39:42 (UTC)

Trix:
Dr. Jim - Thanks for your thoughts regarding the photos. I use the proper paper and the best color ink cartridge. It certainly could be the printer. Will check it out.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:41:21 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Trix, if you can find a person for me to talk to, I would be happy to converse. Perhaps they would be willing to allow us to publish the Ellis Island list for Gottscheers that you helped put together.
- 64.12.97.6 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:41:25 (UTC)

Ridy:
I'll have to alert Joe Rom to that posting about
St. Matthias -- have been exchanging e-mails with him since he came across the book, and he seems to have a wealth of contacts. I'm sure he's mentioned St. Matthias. . . .
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:41:58 (UTC)

Trix:
I think that could be a counter proposal when we make contact. It is rediculous to let all those errors stand when we can help correct many of them. Time will tell. I am a member of the Ellis Island organization so maybe they will respond.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:43:09 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Trix, remember to check for the quality setting on the printer --- they usually have best, standard, and economy settings. Then check for the type of paper that is selected -- regular, photo, transparency and so on.
- 64.12.97.6 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:43:15 (UTC)

Trix:
Another question - have to hurry up and get them asked. The Practice starts soon - my favorite show.

Do you think that the individuals who post messages in the Gottscheer Bulletin board or the Visitors page know about the Plauderzimmer? I mean, why wouldn't they participate here too? This way they could have 3 shots at being heard.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:44:54 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I think they should know about it. It is listed right on top.
- 64.12.96.138 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:47:54 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
First time in the chat, usually do not have time - have 2 school age children who also attend St. Matthias. I'm grateful to be allowed to post message and excited that it seems to be relevant to some people already.
- 12.88.88.56 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:48:13 (UTC)

George Plautz:
I started receiving a newspaper weekly title New Yorker Staats-Zeitung &. Anyone have any idea why I was sent the newspaper. 90% of the articles are in German or about Germany.
- 68.100.122.196 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:48:53 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hello George Plautz -
I received the paper this past week as well (I live in Toronto) and wondered how I got on the list. . . .
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:51:36 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
George, I started getting it myself and could not figure out why I was getting it. I have been trying to revive my dormant German skills but that was Deutsche overload.

Welcome, Elaine.
- 64.12.96.73 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:51:41 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Thank you for the welcome
- 12.88.88.56 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:52:41 (UTC)

Ridy:
They publishers must have got hold of a mailing list - maybe the GHGA? Where else would we all appear?
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:53:04 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Elaine, do you know Ruth Kraker Tramposch?
- 64.12.96.167 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:53:49 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hello,Elaine -
I've just sent a copy of the posting to Eddie Rabuse and Joe Rom. Possibly you know them.. . .
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:53:59 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Do I ned to keep clicking the box to check new messages or is there a way to let messages appear as you guys post them
- 12.88.88.56 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:54:53 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Re: the paper --- that is an expense to mail them out. I am sure they are not doing it without someone footing the bill.I thought it was a fluke.
- 64.12.96.76 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:54:56 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Elaine, you need to keep clicking the box. The site does not refresh automatically.
- 64.12.96.12 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:55:27 (UTC)

Trix:
I receive it too. My first reaction (guilty feeling maybe) was that I must have filled out a coupon. In fact it seems that I did for one free copy but have received 2 now. Don't know anything about the GHGA being a part of this.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:55:45 (UTC)

Ridy:
It was just a thought, Trix, because I don't know how I would end up on a list in New York. Last time I was there I didn't have any gray hair yet!
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:57:10 (UTC)

Trix:
Good evening Elaine. Gottscheer greetings from Minnesota. I am always interested in learning of others connection to Gottschee. I am assuming you have them too. May I ask what village or area?

Welcome aboard.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:57:48 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Jim - yes I know Ruth Kraker Tramposch - her husband is my father's uncle.
- 12.88.88.56 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:58:02 (UTC)

Trix:
Ridy, you look GREAT just the way you are. Gray hair or not.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:58:40 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Ridi I do not personally know the 2 men you are speaking about but the surnames are familiar to me from the creation of the database
- 12.88.88.56 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 02:58:40 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Trix - my father's mother was born in Cleveland - her father as well as my father's father came from Hoehnegg; my mother's mother came from Limbach, and my mother's father was from Niedermoisel - I have no idea if I spelled these names correctly.
- 12.88.88.56 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:00:36 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone. I received two copies of that German newspaper from New York. I was wondering where they got the mailing list also.
- 198.81.26.175 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:01:27 (UTC)

Trix:
I am active in a National Parkinsons Caregivers Support Group and try to post a Thought for the Day message onc a week. Thought you might enjoy it too.

"When you're having a bad day, tell someone.
A shared burden is always lighter".

- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:03:01 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hi Marilu!
Gee - I signed on early today because I was sure I'd be into lalaland long before now, and here I am, still conscious! Must be the company we keep!
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:04:00 (UTC)

Trix:
Elaine - could it be Lienfeld and Niedermösel?

So, are you related to Helmuth Tramposch?
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:04:31 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Elaine, I have some information about your family in file form. Almost all on the Tramposch side and a good deal of it from Ruth. Would you like me to send it to you. My email address is DocH301454@aol.com. I don't have much on the Verderber side but would be happy to look around.
- 64.12.97.13 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:04:32 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Ridy. We just got home from my son's house. It was his birthday yesterday and we had his birthday dinner today. He cooked for us, and it was darn good.
- 198.81.26.235 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:05:10 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Helmuth is a 1st cousin once removed as far as I can tell.
- 64.12.96.70 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:05:34 (UTC)

Trix:
Keep a chattin' - I'll be back during commercial time.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:05:56 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Goodbye heart!! Hello, Marilu. Haven't done that in a while. Just felt right. Apologies to Ricky Nelson ( I think ).
- 64.12.96.232 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:06:42 (UTC)

Franz schmuck:
Hi anyone I am curious as to why all the postings in the plauderzimmer show the time and date as monday the 18th 2am I live in the west where the time now is705 pm nov 17th.
- 66.119.174.49 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:07:45 (UTC)

Eddie Rabuse:
Ridy, thanks for the e-mail.

Elaine, I graduated from St.Matthias in 1958 along with a few dozen other Gottscheers. I'll have to let them know to get in touch with you.

I'm also receiving the 'Zeitung'. How did that happen?

Trix, and what happened to my updated copy of the GHGA Membership List? I should have received it by now, no?
- 24.47.21.44 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:07:47 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Thanks Jim, of course that is one of my favorite songs and Ricky Nelson was always a heart throb!
- 198.81.26.143 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:08:20 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hmmm, your son sounds like my kind of guy -- cooking for you on his birthday! I told Christopher a couple of days ago that I would have a copy of the cookbook I'm working on for him before Christmas, and he asked me to be sure to include lots of empty pages for phone numbers. I fell right into that and asked 'what phone numbers' and his response was: Restaurants and Take-out places!
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:08:25 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Trix, Helmut Tramposch is my father's cousin - we had a wonderful family reunion this summer at clubhouse in Walden NY - put together by Helmut, and his siblings - Ernst, Erna Putre and Sophie Sandor. I don't know much about the villages, but Niedermosel is definitely the village for my grandfather. My grandmother's village though seems to be puzzling to people although my mother clearly remembers the pronunciation to be somewhat how I spelled it.
- 12.88.88.56 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:08:46 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, Eddie. It's a full crowd in the room tonight.
- 64.12.96.11 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:09:04 (UTC)

Trix:
Well, well, well Mr. Rabuse. How nice to have you with us again. Long time no hear.

The GHGA membership list is at the printers now. Will be coming soon.

Hope you are doing GREAT. I have missed your poetry.

Dr. Jim - yup, that was a great Ricky Nelson tune. Such a memory.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:10:15 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, what would I have to do to get a copy of that cookbook????
- 198.81.26.205 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:10:15 (UTC)

Trix:
Ridy, I echo Marilu's question. Will gladly pay but I need it autographed and dated. Can do?

- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:12:06 (UTC)

Trix:
I have a hard drive for Windows 95, 2 speakers, a mike and a mouse for sale. Is there a market for them?
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:12:53 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Eddie, Thanks for spreading the word - I spoke to a Marie Fleming Rabuse who still resides in Ridgewood. Is she related to you?
- 12.88.88.56 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:13:19 (UTC)

Ridy:
Marilu - you're on the list, of course. But it won't be a book, really -- I'm going to put it on CDs. Those I can enclose with Christmas cards, and for anyone who is on the internet, I can try to send it as an attachment. I don't want to get into printing another book -- and most people who would be interested have computers now. I think I can buy CDs for under $1 a piece - can't beat that price!
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:13:25 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Jim, Helmuth Tramposch has I believe the ,most complete Tramposch family history around - all on a CD - complete with pictures from his recent trip back to Gottschee with his sisters either earlier this year or last year.
- 12.88.88.56 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:14:49 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, Ridy of course I want my copy autographed and I would gladly pay! I keep thinking I need to put together a cookbook for my kids. I have collected a few of my grandma's receipes also, and have some of my moms, but most of them would be mine.
- 198.81.26.137 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:15:11 (UTC)

:
Hi Jim. we were up in Hawley again last Monday. Always a nice place to visit.

Mrs. Wyant -- all is well here on Long Island...so far. I'm up late tonight due to some computer problems. By the way, a 'photo' printer will probably correct your printing problems.

- 24.47.21.44 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:15:50 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Marilu, That sounds like a great idea. I have often told my mother, who is 78, that I should make a video of her making strudel!
- 12.88.88.56 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:16:30 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, yes you can buy cd's real cheap now. And an attachemtent file would be great for me. You are a sweetheart, you know.
- 198.81.27.13 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:17:24 (UTC)

Trix:
Mr. Rabuse. Is a "photo" printer a separate unit or is it a software program that can downloaded into my new Microsoft Windows XP Home Version? See, I am still a novice.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:17:47 (UTC)

Ridy:
That's what mine is, Marilu - my recipes. I keep being asked for them, mostly by friends of Caroline's or Christopher's or even their friends' mothers and I thought getting them all onto the computer was a smart idea and should save me time in future. I'm also putting in the odd little story, which the kids seem to want. The kids being in their 30s, of course.
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:18:11 (UTC)

Eddie:
Oops! Those 2 dots are me!

No Elaine, That name is not familiar to me.
- 24.47.21.44 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:18:14 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Elaine, His family history sounds great. I met Helmuth at the GHGA meeting in Hawley this summer. He had a great time going to Gottschee. Did Helmut delve into the Verderbers or Kostners? I have some thoughts on the Kostners but would need more information on the Verderbers. I hope you drop me an email. It might be interesting.
- 64.12.96.47 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:18:22 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, I need in on this photo printing conversation too.. Trix, have you been find tuning the settings like Jim said. I have printed hundreds of pictures with my Canon 932 and it does a wonderful job.
- 198.81.26.199 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:19:41 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Sorry that was FINE tuning.
- 198.81.26.138 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:20:10 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Time for me to turn in. It has been a great night. Have a good week.
- 64.12.96.231 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:21:27 (UTC)

Trix:
I appreciate all the thoughts. Will follow through on all points and see if I can improve the quality. If not, then a new printer might be in order. I like good quality so may have to do it. Danke.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:22:39 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, I want the stories that go with the receipes also! We are greedy arent we? I do not have any Gottscheer receipes, I don't know if my grandma ever knew any.
- 198.81.26.166 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:22:53 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Jim, No Helmuth hasn't explored the Verderbers or the Koestners. The Tramposch's were more social and family oriented in terms of staying in contact with extended family. The Verderber side of the family is the least well known to me. I have some information on the Koestners at least back to my great-grandfather, Frank, who opened a stagecoach stop in Cleveland, but later returned to Gottschee, only to return to NY later after his children. He lived to be 95. I will definitely drop you an email - mine is eljoe@worldnet.att.net
- 12.88.88.56 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:22:57 (UTC)

Eddie:
Trix, I just recently bought an HP deskjet 5550 and printed out some photos on HP Premium Glossy Photo paper. The results are amazing! Better than the photos from the store.

A lot of printers now are called 'photo' printers and they generally are used for that but can print out normal text also. No special software needed.
- 24.47.21.44 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:23:36 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night Jim.
- 198.81.26.202 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:23:55 (UTC)

Ridy:
Eddie -
Did Joe Rom tell you he's been chatting me up? He knows some of the people who are related to me, it turns out. Small world.
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:25:22 (UTC)

Trix:
The program in the computer is Microsost Picture It. Photo 2002.
Any comments?
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:25:30 (UTC)

Ridy:
Eddie - Christopher just got me a new computer - it's still at his place - but I told him I didn't need a new printer because Ray has a laser printer and I have this old HP DeskJet, which sounds more and more like what Trix was describing. Should I tell him I've changed my mind and get a new printer like yours?
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:27:30 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Trix, There are many different photo programs. I am not familiar with the Microsoft program. i happen to like MGI Suite by Roxbury. Some programs are easy to use and some arre not.
- 12.88.88.56 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:27:52 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Trix, the program I use the most is called Franklin, and I love it. Don't know much about the others, because I don't use anything else often enought.
- 198.81.26.230 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:28:18 (UTC)

Eddie:
Ridy, Joe and I corresponded (via e-mail) just recently and he told me he was in touch with you. He lives about 2 miles down the road from me, but our paths never seem to meet.
- 24.47.21.44 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:29:01 (UTC)

Trix:
Oh, gosh, Elaine it has to be "easy to use" for this Gottscheer lady. Thank you.

- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:29:06 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Trix, I know hat you mean - I am definitely not a techie - that is my husband's field, but my 11 year old uses it and taught me!
- 12.88.88.56 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:30:23 (UTC)

Eddie:
Ridy, if you want to print quality photos, I suggest you buy a new printer. But it's also important that the printer match the photo paper, ie, HP printer with HP paper. I tried Epson (not glossy premium) with my HP printer and the quality was not very good.
- 24.47.21.44 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:33:24 (UTC)

Ridy:
Thanks Eddie - I'll keep that in mind. I just checked and all the paper I have on hand is Epson and so I may have a double problem -- old printer and wrong paper. Never thought about that. I will now.
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:35:51 (UTC)

Trix:
Eddie - just went on the internet and found the printer HP Desket 5550.

A couple of weeks ago I went on e-Bay and bought 200 sheets of the HP super gloss paper at a very good price compared to what I bought at the local store. We live and learn, don't we?

To all of you Danke for the great discussion on this topic.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:38:50 (UTC)

Eddie:
Ridy, before you spend a few thousand dollars on a new printer, read the reviews on them and see which one would suit you best.
- 24.47.21.44 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:39:29 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Now, I happen to like matte finish photos and I buy a matte photo paper from Great White Paper company that works good for me.
- 198.81.26.233 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:39:34 (UTC)

Ridy:
The sandman has just arrived in front of me and I'm going to have to call it a night. Thanks for an interesting evening, old and new friends!
Gute Nacht, Alle miteinander, Gütei Nocht!
- 64.229.237.110 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:40:05 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Gute Nocht, Ridy.
- 198.81.26.231 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:41:00 (UTC)

Eddie:
Trix, when I bought my printer, the 50 sheets of the photo paper came with it --- Free! I've been looking for a deal like that for months! Hey, I'm a Gottscheer!!!
- 24.47.21.44 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:41:55 (UTC)

Elaine Tramposch-Haufe:
Good night, Ridy. I am going to call it a night myself. Thank you to all who made my first chat here a warm experience.
- 12.88.88.56 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:41:59 (UTC)

Trix:
I certainly have enjoyed our good sharing and conversations tonight. Appreciate it. Eddie - remember we gather here every Sunday night. You have been missed.

To you all Gute Nacht, have a good week and think happy thoughts.
- 216.251.169.39 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:43:09 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night everyone, and hope to see you all back next week. Sweet dreams.
- 198.81.26.107 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:44:02 (UTC)

Irene:
Well, I'm very late to the chat room. Read through all the comments and it seems everyone had a good time tonight. Inregard to the Zeitung. I think I have an explanation. They probably did get a membership list. Newspapers need to keep their circulation up to a certain level so that they can use the circulation number to get advertizing dollars. If paid subscriptions fall below a certain level, newspapers will often give away their newspapers for free to select populations that their advertizers want to target. Of course you may also break down and buy a subscription which is an added bonus.

Has anyone read the personals in the Zeitung. There is one ad where the lady wants someone to pay for her newspaper subscription because she is too poor. My hunch is that whoever steps up to the plate will be asked to pay for more than a newspaper.

- 66.66.196.5 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 03:53:51 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi everyone, sorry I missed tonight. Still having computer problems. We are going to get rid of windows ME and get windows XP. I think almost everyone who has windows ME here ended up taking their computers back and getting XP.
I see people are doing photos on their computers. I have been doing that, and repairing damaged photos with the paint program. Everyone take care.

- 206.172.22.94 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 06:55:08 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Sharon. Sorry we missed you. Just wanted you to know that I recently purchased Windows XP home edition and LOVE IT. Good luck, go for it and enjoy.
- 216.251.178.21 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 15:20:01 (UTC)

Paul B.:
I see you all had a good time last night with all the Tech Talk....Maybe it was meant to be for me to miss the chat, because i am such a dumb dodo when it comes to the technical computor stuff...Some day, maybve i will catch up..Have a great week everyone...
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 19:31:50 (UTC)

Trix:
Sorry Paul but you are a long way from being a "dumb dodo" on anything including the Tech Talk. You might not believe it but I feel the same about myself BUT am learning day by day. Thanks for your good wishes. Likewise.
- 216.251.178.21 - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 19:40:40 (UTC)

Trix:
Greetings to the regulars. Just want those of you who shared in the conversation about the need for a new printer last Sunday night - IT IS A DONE DEAL. I bought one just like Eddie R. from NY recommended and it works like a charm. Eddie, DANKE!

Ridy, go for it.

- 216.251.178.9 - Friday, November 22, 2002 at 00:53:29 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy Sunday everyone.....
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, November 24, 2002 at 18:35:53 (UTC)

Trix:
Well, Paul, it's about time you appeared to wish us all a Happy Sunday. Have been waiting all day.

Hope you are having a good one. Very nippy here with a few snowflakes flying. Yuk.
- 209.240.245.132 - Sunday, November 24, 2002 at 21:08:03 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Guten Abend from dark, dreary, and drizzly Toronto.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:10:05 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Guten Abend to you also Ridy. It is cold here, but no snow yet. A sad week tho, the daughter of one of my best friends died in her sleep, and funeral is tomorrow.
- 198.81.26.135 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:21:17 (UTC)

Ridy :
That doesn't sound as if the death was due to old age....which makes it twice as sad.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:23:30 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
No, it was not old age. She was in her 30s and died in her sleep. She had had a cold and strep, but no answer from the autopsy yet.
- 198.81.26.134 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:26:34 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Couldn't tun in last Sun. My grandsons were visiting. Hope all are well. Have a lovely Thanksgiving. We might get a little snow tonight.
- 66.140.93.4 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:27:06 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
I also get the Zeitung. Can't read the German, but find other parts interesting. I can't remember paying for a subscription to the paper, but it's nice to get it.
- 66.140.93.4 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:28:51 (UTC)

Ridy :
What a dreadful shock that must be to her family and friends. I don't think we ever fully realize just how fragile life is -- and also how much people can endure along the way. It's a puzzlement.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:29:14 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Margaret, Hello. I think most of us have been getting the German paper from New York. I've gotten 3 copies now, and have not bought a subscription either.
- 198.81.26.240 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:29:58 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Trix; I forwarded an email to you. One that I got from my cousin in Hopewell Junction, NY--about their trip to Gottschee and other places. Thought you would be interested.
- 66.140.93.4 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:30:23 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, nor do we realize how our lives can flip flop in a moments notice, until something like this happens.
- 198.81.26.112 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:31:08 (UTC)

Ridy :
Yup - got my second copy. It really isn't a paper I would order,though. Barely get around to reading the one we get every day. However, all of us who are members of the GHGA get a membership roster, so I strongly suspect that's how they got our addresses..... not from the GHGA, but from one of the members.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:31:29 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Irene: Thanks for mentioning the personals in the Zeitung. Will check them more carefully when the next issue arrives.
- 66.140.93.4 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:33:37 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hey, its free, so I don't care. I gave 2 copies to my German friend here so she can read them.
- 198.81.26.107 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:34:23 (UTC)

Ridy :
Marilu - I will always remember when my brother died so suddenly. I had a long phone conversation with him the evening before, and the next morning my sister called to give me the news. It took a long time to sink in. But we have a history of heart disease in our family, so while it was totally unexpected, we had been through it before.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:34:47 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, I lost 2 brothers when we were all young, and it was not easy for any of us, especially my folks. I don't know how my mom survived it.
- 198.81.27.15 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:38:19 (UTC)

Ridy :
Margaret - I already saw a 'for rent' ad in Naples, Florida. Think I'll cut it out and give it to my husband. . . maybe he'll go down for the whole winter! That would give me time to renovate our house here.....
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:39:11 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Must log off. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.93.4 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:39:26 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: I have friends who retired to Naples, Florida. They live in a nice trailer court. Many senior activities. They LOVE it there. Weather is wonderful!
- 66.140.93.4 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:40:33 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, lol, I notice you did not say you would both go for the whole winter.
- 198.81.26.139 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:40:47 (UTC)

Ridy :
I don't know how any parent can survive that. I wouldn't want to. But resilience is another characteristic we are stuck with. It's just not how it's supposed to be.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:42:11 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
So how is the cookbook coming. I loved the first two. you are a good story teller.
- 198.81.26.198 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:43:42 (UTC)

Ridy :
You're right, Marilu -- I can think of better things to do with my time. I went down once. Ray was having reading week at University. He went out golfing every day and I sat in the apartment - reading. On the last day I went along to the golf course and read a book at the Clubhouse. The manager came over and asked me how I was, etc., and I explained that we were only down for a week - since it was my husband's reading week - and he laughed and said: Oh, I get it -- you do his reading and he gets to play golf! How true! And I can read for free at home.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:45:20 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have been to Disneyworld twice and it was fun. If I could be at the beach everyday, Florida wouldnt be too bad. But the beaches in Hawaii are much nicer!
- 198.81.26.231 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:47:12 (UTC)

Ridy :
The cookbook is going much slower than I had hoped. In fact, I just had a panic call from Caroline, who suddenly realized it's almost the end of November, and she wants to make sure she'll have it to give to all her friends for Christmas...... not sure I'll make it. Today I gave up and just decided to cook instead. Ray thought that was a splendid idea. It's been a while since he told me he enjoyed dinner!!! Not a good advertisement for the book, is it!
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:47:44 (UTC)

Ridy :
Never been to Hawaii. . . .I'm still holding out for a cruise. Of course, if GWB starts to throw bombs around the world, I guess I won't get my cruise either.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:48:52 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
LOLO Everytime I look at pots and pans to buy, my husband tells me I don't cook often enough to need new pans!
- 198.81.26.137 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:49:24 (UTC)

Ridy :
Hey - my son has the most expensive pots and pans in his apartment and I doubt that all - if any - have seen the stovetop yet! Just tell him you might be tempted to actually use them if you had them! On the other hand, you might consider how many take-outs you could have with the same money, and opt for that instead!
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:52:00 (UTC)

Ridy :
Speaking of the cookbook -- I found an interesting Hungarian web page for recipes. I lost my recipe for Esterhazy Goulash - been making it for years but I wanted to go back to the original - so in a round-about way I got to this Hungarian web page. Didn't find what I was looking for, but was greatly amused by some of the descriptions. e.g., for rolling up the strudel, the description given was to roll it up 'roly poly like' -- I love that!
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:55:22 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I actually enjoy cooking sometimes, just not everyday. He is working the swing shift right now, so fortunately I don't have to cook a big meal everyday. Works for me!
- 198.81.26.203 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:55:30 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
What is Esterhazy?
- 198.81.26.241 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:56:17 (UTC)

Ridy :
Marilu - since the kids no longer live at home, I really can't be bothered cooking every night. What I do, however, I always cook enough for two meals at least, and freeze one... and I also do a lot of frozen soups and stews and casseroles, so there's always something home-made, just not freshly made that day. That way, I save myself having to do the same thing, day in and day out. Have done that for too many years and it's time to cut corners.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 02:58:39 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, I always have stuff in the freezer also. But, we do not eat a big meal everyday anymore either. I like taking things out already cooked!
- 198.81.26.108 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:00:57 (UTC)

Ridy :
Esterhazy was an Austro-Hungarian aristocratic family and this particular version of Goulash was named for them -- it's simply embellished with julienned vegetables -- cut like matchsticks -- and it looks rather pretty, besides being delicious.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:02:33 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Sounds good. I would eat soups and stews and casseroles every day if it was up to me. I thought by now, with all this talk of food, some of the regulars would of joined us by now.
- 198.81.26.141 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:04:25 (UTC)

Ridy :
Maybe they're afraid they'll be asked to do the dishes if they join us late!
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:06:06 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Maybe we need to get out a bottle of wine? You know, I have been trying to order Slivovitz at the store, and cannot find a wholesaler right now that has it.
- 198.81.27.16 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:07:46 (UTC)

Ridy :
What you need to do is find a Gottscheer over here who is old enough to remember how to make it, and put him to work! Can't you import it directly?
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:09:28 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
No, we have to go thru our suppliers, and I think will all the things going on right now, no one has it in Colorado. If I was in New York, I might be able to find it
- 198.81.26.139 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:12:44 (UTC)

Ridy :
In Canada you have to go through the Liquor Control Board -- at least that's the case in Ontario -- and they do all the buying overseas and then you buy it from them.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:15:36 (UTC)

Ridy :
Interesting -- no other chatterers tonight -- maybe the thanksgiving weekend is starting early!
Which gives me a chance to wish all of you Americans a
VERY HAPPY THANKSGIVING! Hope you get to celebrate with your families.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:19:11 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Thanks Ridy. We will be having Turkey and dressing. We are going to my daughters house, but I am cooking the turkey and dressing. We all bring something. We willnot all be together this year. One son and family are going to Montana, and not sure what daughter Gail is doing yet.
- 198.81.26.110 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:21:09 (UTC)

Ridy :
We're already negotiating where to have Christmas. Finally settled it today. I simply pulled rank and decreed it will be right here, and I shall do the cooking. That's just our family. The big Hoegler family Christmas will be in Kitchener at a restaurant we all like, and after the meal we'll all gather at my sister's place. It's only a month away!
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:24:23 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes, where does time go. We are having our big family Christmas on the Sunday before. That is what we did last year, and it worked really well. Then they can all go to the other side of the family if they want on Christmas day. And it is much less stress for me that way.
- 198.81.26.142 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:28:29 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, I think it is time to call it a night. I have been trying to get a bunch of my research stuff sorted out, and it is a messy job. The piles of papers are waiting for me!
- 198.81.27.6 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:31:26 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Maybe I will check back later and see if anyone is here.
- 198.81.27.12 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:31:55 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hello everyone. How's the snow?
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:32:08 (UTC)

Ridy :
'Stress' is the operative word, isn't it. I can never wait for the holidays to be over! One year my sister and I declared Recuperation Day after Christmas, and neither of us got out of our housecoats all day! Everyone got leftovers and the microwave did a brisk business that day, but the stove remained cold. I must remember to leave a list of books I want lying around, so that I'll have something to curl up with after Christmas on Recuperation Day.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:32:26 (UTC)

Ridy :
Hi Sharon!
What snow?
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:33:10 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Well its lightly snowing here at the moment.
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:33:31 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hey, Sharon. We were giving up anyone joining us. Ridy we have leftovers for two days after the holidays here. I always make turkey soup with veggies and dumplings, everyones favorite.
- 198.81.26.202 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:35:40 (UTC)

Ridy :
We had snow - and lots of it - a week or two ago. But it didn't last long, it all got rained away. Sure made a mess of traffic, though. Torontonians don't know how to cope with snow on the roads.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:35:43 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Thats what my Hubby said when he was down there one year.
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:36:56 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I hope we get more snow then the year before. I would like to go ski-dooing at least once this year.
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:38:26 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I'm proud to say that I got half my shopping done for Christmas.
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:40:22 (UTC)

Ridy :
Never been on one of those contraptions. Too noisy. Haven't been on skis in years either. Too fast. It's the rocking chair for me. Maybe I'll put one of those on my Wish List this year!
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:40:39 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Go for the gliding chairs, there really nice.
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:41:17 (UTC)

Ridy :
You are kidding, Sharon!!! I haven't even made up a list yet!
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:41:35 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I get my shopping at least half done before November because with all the Christmas parties we cook for, you don't have a whole lot of time to shop.
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:42:52 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
All ready have the tree up and decorated.
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:44:10 (UTC)

Ridy :
I can imagine you'd be overworked before Christmas, Sharon. But think of all the pleasure you're giving.
To be truthful, I do most of my shopping on the Internet now. However, I still have to figure out what I want to buy and for whom.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:44:31 (UTC)

Ridy :
Now that's something you could not have done in Gottschee, Sharon. The Christchild always brought the tree on Christmas Eve and not a day sooner.
- 64.229.236.223 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:46:05 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I'm not going overboard with shopping because its mostly kids I buy for and they either grow out of it or are too old for it.
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:47:38 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
That sounds like my Dad. Always got the tree on Christmas Eve. I won't take my tree down until after Ukrainian Christmas. I do it out of respect for my "other Grandparents"
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:49:21 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ok, now you have my interest again. What other Christmas traditions was there in Gottschee?
- 198.81.26.166 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:50:24 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I'm going to tell my Mom that. Tell her thats explains why he did that. It's part of his Heritage.
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:51:32 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Well its pretty late and I still have a couple things to do before going to bed, Goodnight everyone.
- 199.243.152.158 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 03:58:48 (UTC)

Russell:
Sorry I'm late.
When is Ukrainian Christmas?
- 205.188.208.102 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 04:05:50 (UTC)

Russell:
oh well.
- 205.188.208.134 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 04:08:30 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hello and good nite everyone-just got back a few minutes ago and ran straight to the PZ..I guess you are all asleep by now.......So have a good week all and a very Happy Holiday to you all...
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 04:50:23 (UTC)

Trix:
Greetings from Waukenabo where we have a gray, dreary and cold day with snowflakes flying through the air. But it's that time of year I guess so no point complaining.

I missed the Plauderzimmer last night. Hard to believe but got into housecleaning and listening to good music. By the time news came I was beat.

Wish all of you a wonderful Thanksgiving!
- 209.240.245.140 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 15:48:07 (UTC)

Russell:
Forecast for NYC is to have at least rain and snow on tuesday night. We're dreaming of a White Thanksgiving this year.
- 64.12.96.232 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 22:15:49 (UTC)

Irene:
May everyone have a happy and thankful thanksgiving. We too in Albany are expecting bad weather for the occasion. But so what if the weather is yucky, when it is warm inside and we are surounded by family and friends
- 66.66.196.5 - Monday, November 25, 2002 at 23:09:01 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Same here Irene, we are expecting 2-4 inches in Pittsburgh overnight (Tues.-Wed.) That's a lot for us but pales by comparison to when I lived in Syracuse many years ago! To all participants and all Gottscheers everywhere, a very Happy Thanksgiving from the Kump's of South Fayette, PA.
- 204.180.133.234 - Tuesday, November 26, 2002 at 17:13:40 (UTC)

Trix:
Time for a laugh.
When Life Begins
A Catholic priest, a Protestant minister, and a Jewish rabbi were discussing when life begins.

"Life begins," said the priest, "at the moment of fertilization. That is when God instills the spark of life into the fetus."

"We believe," said the minister, "that life begins at birth, because that is when the baby becomes an individual and is capable of making its own decisions and must learn about sin."

"You've both got it wrong," said the rabbi. "Life begins when the children have graduated from college and moved out of the house."
- 209.240.245.175 - Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 01:31:51 (UTC)

Trix:
And while I am at it - The Wyants of Waukenabo wish all of you a Blessed Thanksgiving.
- 209.240.245.175 - Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 01:32:30 (UTC)

Russell:
Forcast for Tuesday night - Wednesday morning is about 1-2 inches of snow in NYC and 4-6 inches north and east. I thought Thanksgivings were supposed to be Brown. Not white.

Happy day, all!
- 205.188.208.135 - Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 04:04:32 (UTC)

Russell:
Disregard previous message.
- 64.12.97.10 - Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 16:10:52 (UTC)

Russell:
Except for HAPPY DAY ALL!
- 64.12.96.14 - Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 16:11:12 (UTC)

Paul B.:
And also to you Russell-Enjoy the Holiday......
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 23:38:22 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hope all my American friends are having a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday!
I have very fond memories of the years we spent in Ann Arbor, and I am grateful for the friendships we formed there. Added to that are the memories of holdays spent with relatives in New York, New Jersey, Florida, Illinois and Indiana, Ohio, and South Carolina, Vermont and New Hampshire and Pennsylvania..... and I am thankful for all that, but mostly I am thankful for the people south of the border who are dear to me, on this your Thanksgiving Day.
- 64.229.235.43 - Friday, November 29, 2002 at 01:15:38 (UTC)

Beobachter :
I entered this posting in the Forum of Gottschee.de

Mr.Tschinkel is a proponent of the AVNOJ decrees for several reasons.First of all he has a dual Slovene and American citizenship because his mother is Slovene and not ethnic-german therefore he has the right to Slovene citizenship (ethnic Germans "Gottscheer people" born in Slovenia do not have the right to be Slovene citizens because of the AVNOJ law. He was able to regain his mother's property in Masern ,Gottschee because he has Slovene citizenship.Ethnic German Gottscheer people cannot regain the property they owned in Gottschee(in the family for hundreds of years) because being of German origin they are denied the right because of the AVNOJ law. Furthermore because of the AVNOJ decrees, ethnic German civilians (including priests,teachers,farmers and businessmen) were persecuted,tortured and murdered in the Sterntal concentration camp just because they were German and for that reason only. Slovenia must give ethnic Germans living in Slovenia today back the civil rights that they deserve inorder to become a member nation of the European Union.

- 64.12.97.6 - Sunday, December 01, 2002 at 00:38:12 (UTC)

Ridy:
Good 1st Sunday of Advent evening!
Have you started your 'After Thanksgiving Diet' yet? Or do you wait until after New Year's? (I've been waiting since 1982!)
Have you done your bit for the economy by shopping all weekend?
Toronto is cold this weekend -- down into the mid-to-low 20s. No snow yet, though. Wish I could still squeeze into my old fur coat, even if it's no longer politically correct to wear one. Not in this lifetime anymore, I'm afraid!
- 64.229.232.157 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 02:14:39 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Now the big rush to Christmas.Happy first Sunday of Advent to all of you.
- 66.140.93.11 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 02:18:20 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
I think Ukrainian Christmas if January 7th. Can someone tell me, if I am correct??? Something to do with the Gregorian or Julian calendars???
- 66.140.93.11 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 02:23:47 (UTC)

Ridy:
Yes - that's correct. Not sure why ...
- 64.229.232.157 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 02:30:32 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Are you on tonight? Can't seem to get to you, except in reply to your email. Anyway, my cousins Werner and Trudy Lackner of Hopewell Junction, NY visited many cousins in Austria, Gottschee, Germany and visited Italy also. They were gone 6 weeks.
- 66.140.93.11 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 02:33:32 (UTC)

Trix:
Guten Abend lovely ladies. I hope you are both doing well. Very cold here too - right around 20° and thankfully NO SNOW as yet. On a day like this it is absolutely marvelous to stay in the house, listen to soft classical music, playing on the computer, drinking tea with lemon, honey & sugar and doing nothing. Here it is evening now and I am not feeling guilty one bit either. Is this a sign of getting old?

Margaret, what a wonderful trip your cousins had. Imagine 6 weeks. That's really the way to do it. I am not sure I could handle that long away from home - my limit is usually 2 weeks and they are packed full of excitement and enjoyment. After my return home I fly high for another 6 weeks before settling down. But to come home and have to think about cooking is always a culture shock.
- 209.240.245.130 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 02:40:06 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Sorry to chat and run. Auf Wiedersehen. Alles Gute. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.93.11 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 02:42:44 (UTC)

Trix:
Ridy: I have a short German phrase. Would you have the time to look at and help me translate it?

Also, how was your Saturday? Hope a hoot with everyone enjoying your nummy cookies.
- 209.240.245.130 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 02:47:49 (UTC)

Ridy:
Trix - sure, send it along and I'll give it a shot.
Seems like everyone phones me Sunday evenings when I want to chat! Hence the silences. . . .
- 64.229.232.157 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 02:54:30 (UTC)

Trix:
Thanks Ridy. Here we go....

Du hast manchmal Launen
da kann man nur staunen.

I love it. It appears on a pillow cover that I have stuffed with a pillow, is hand embroidered, shows a boy and a girl (about the same age - reminds me of our twins), both of whom are learning German. It will be given to MeganMary for Christmas. It is quite a beauty.

Danke Ridy.
- 209.240.245.130 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 02:56:45 (UTC)

Trix:
Now here we - a Sunday night and no Paul, no Russell, no Dr. Jim, no Marilu, no Holly. WHAT GIVES? How about all you Gottscheers in Europe? And what about Chicago Franz? I hope he is still alive.

We are waiting.....
- 209.240.245.130 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 02:57:55 (UTC)

Irene:
Hi, hope I'm not too late.
- 66.66.196.5 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 02:58:31 (UTC)

Ridy:
You have moods would be the literal translation - but 'you're moody sometimes' would be more appropriate, I think;
second line: 'one can only marvel. . . .'
it rhymes in German!

- 64.229.232.157 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 02:58:59 (UTC)

Ridy:
Trix - let's forgive the Europeans for not joining us -- it's 4:00 a.m. over there, after all!
- 64.229.232.157 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:00:20 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hi Irene!
Good to have you here again.

- 64.229.232.157 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:00:55 (UTC)

Irene:
Hi Ridy, Is Christmas as big a deal in Canada as it is in the states?
- 66.66.196.5 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:02:41 (UTC)

Trix:
OK Irene - time for an update on your education project. How goes it?
- 209.240.245.130 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:04:06 (UTC)

Ridy:
Haven't noticed any difference between the two.
- 64.229.232.157 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:04:18 (UTC)

Trix:
Danke Ridy. Appreciate it much.
- 209.240.245.130 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:06:29 (UTC)

Irene:
Ridy, I understand that you know Kresse. My gradmother was the only girl of 7 or 8 brothers. She was the sister of Adolf Kresse the elder.
- 66.66.196.5 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:07:06 (UTC)

Ridy:
Irene -
Do you mean the Kresse family who ended up in Kitchener? Bert Kresse and his famiy were our neighbours in Kitchener and we grew up with their children. He also had a sister, Betty Simon.... she's still alive and just moved into a Retirement Home recently. Bert Kresse's widow is still alive as well.
- 64.229.232.157 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:11:47 (UTC)

Irene:
Yes, Do you know if the family came from Ort?
- 66.66.196.5 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:14:06 (UTC)

Ridy:
No - I don't know where they came from in Gottschee. They are related (first cousins) to Arnold's Kresse relatives. Which would make them related to you, right?
They have three daughters: Norma, Lillian and Helen, and a son, Richard.
- 64.229.232.157 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:18:05 (UTC)

Irene:
yes, Have they looked up their family tree?
- 66.66.196.5 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:19:58 (UTC)

Ridy:
I don't know.... I saw Lillian this summer, and Helen called to chat after she ordered copies of the book for everyone, but we didn't discuss family trees......
- 64.229.232.157 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:21:50 (UTC)

Irene:
Would you ask one of them the next time you're chating?
- 66.66.196.5 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:23:21 (UTC)

Irene:
Ridy, I'm going to say good night. It has been a long day.
- 66.66.196.5 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:24:36 (UTC)

Ridy:
Certainly!
If you're related to them, you must have a beautiful smile!
They all do. . .
- 64.229.232.157 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:25:43 (UTC)

Ridy:
Good night - my eyes keep falling shut on me, and I think it's time for me to turn in as well.
Bis zum nächstenmal. . . .
- 64.229.232.157 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 03:28:00 (UTC)

stefan:
hy everybody

- 212.152.181.74 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 15:27:13 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hi Everyone-Thanks for mentioning my name---I just got a chance to read the Sunday chat-it is 6:40 P.M.on Monday 12/2-----First chance I've gotten to get on..Sorry I missed you all-Wish you all a very pleasant week during this busy holiday season.....So much to do here-don't know where to begin....Guess we are all in the same boat, Right?
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, December 02, 2002 at 23:45:45 (UTC)

Paul B.:
The weather outside is frightfull=but the fire is so delightfull-----Bah Humbug
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, December 05, 2002 at 20:58:41 (UTC)

Ridy:
....whether you like the weather or not, it will snow, it will snow, it will snow!
- 64.229.239.24 - Friday, December 06, 2002 at 03:49:08 (UTC)

Paul B.:
OK=Igive in--let it snow let it snow let it snow!!!!!!!!!!!!
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, December 06, 2002 at 04:33:19 (UTC)

Trix:
Paul: Keep it there, keep it there, keep it there.
- 216.251.178.47 - Friday, December 06, 2002 at 10:01:00 (UTC)

Paul B.:
I Understand Trix-and I will try my best--have a happy snowless weekend---Paul
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, December 06, 2002 at 17:31:47 (UTC)

Franz:
Snow? Where?????
- 172.130.221.21 - Friday, December 06, 2002 at 18:50:12 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Everywhere Franz, on Long Island, N.Y. anyway
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, December 07, 2002 at 04:33:56 (UTC)

John Tschinkel:
My response to the "Beobachter" entry of 30/11/02 Sunday is posted on several websites including www.Gottschee.de and www.kt3l.com. (Translation in German and Slovene will follow). This version of a Beobachter entry is hardly "unbiased" and it is clear which flag he salutes!

- 64.12.96.138 - Saturday, December 07, 2002 at 15:56:01 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Dear Professor Tschinkel:
I am certain that I will regret writing this as soon as I hit "Send" - however, I will also regret it if I don't contribute my two cents to the topic of your contributions to this chat room.
You have been making a habit of leaving your messages on web sites which are provided and paid for by other individuals interested in our Gottscheer heritage. These web sites, as far as I can tell, are not established to promote political viewpoints for one side or another. I personally view your comments as rather inflammatory, and very political, of course. You appear to seek to create an argument for a topic in which most of us have no interest, under the guise of setting the record straight. What you do accomplish is create an uncomfortable and unfriendly climate.
May I suggest you set up your own web site, on which you can post your own beliefs, and those among us who wish to engage in debating you can then do so at your pleasure.
I simply wanted to state my viewpoint, and would like to make it clear that I have no desire to discuss the topic further with you. You obviously have my e-mail address for that purpose.
- 64.229.235.187 - Saturday, December 07, 2002 at 19:05:55 (UTC)

Arnold:
I got your e-mail and had to get in here to see what is happening.

I hope you are listening to Fidelio!
- 12.82.141.43 - Saturday, December 07, 2002 at 20:47:26 (UTC)

Arnold:
I ment to direct the previous message to Ridy. I guess I am
used to writing e-mails, where this is not a problem.

Mia culpa
- 12.82.141.43 - Saturday, December 07, 2002 at 20:49:15 (UTC)

J. Tschinkel:
Dear Reader:

A nice motherly lecture from Ridy Hoegler Skyrme. Like so many other Gottscheer, she wants to hear the only the nice parts of our heritage. She is also certain that websites are established only to make her sense of our heritage comfortable. But they are not complaining over information even if uncomfortable. To the contrary, some of them even look for relevant discussion, the kind Ridy wants to prevent.

Does she also think the effort of the AG and GHGA are "inflammatory" and that they "create an uncomfortable unfriendly climate ? I wonder.

She, in her motherly way, also knows what interests others. Is she wrong!

Ridy, I have no desire to discuss the topic with you. It just would not be a discussion, e-mail or otherwise.

- 64.12.96.201 - Saturday, December 07, 2002 at 22:11:32 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
A good evening to one and all. Dear Ridy, kind advice is always welcome.
- 205.188.208.72 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 01:54:27 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hello, Jim~
Thank you. I don't think I'll last very long tonight. I'm trying to learn how to use everything that's different on my new computer, and it will take a while. Why, oh why, do things have to change, just when I think I'm getting the hang of it?! However, I hope this new one will not crash on me at regular intervals,which is what the other machine was doing.
I just got an e-mail back, which I tried to send to Trix. This is about the umpteenth one. Is anyone else having
this problem, or am I being singled out by her Server again? I should try to change my name to sound less like a terrorist to Minnesotans -- not!
- 64.229.239.202 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:08:28 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello Ridy and Jim. Ridy, I agree with Jim.
- 198.81.26.109 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:11:04 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hi Marilu!
I'm just thinking: here it is, 2½ weeks before Christmas, and I'm playing around on a computer instead of getting all the work done in preparation for the holidays. This must be a busy time for you in the store - is it?
- 64.229.239.202 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:17:33 (UTC)

Irene:

Hello everyone. Greetings from Albany.
- 66.66.196.5 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:19:07 (UTC)

Irene:
Cooking advice needed. Do you think I can make butter cookies and kipfel (using walnuts) this week and store them till Christmas? I usually make them a day ahead and it is very stressful.
- 66.66.196.5 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:21:30 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yes this is a busy time at the store. We baked most of our Christmas cookies on thanksgiving weekend, but I have not done anything else yet. No decoration or Christmas cards, so will have a busy couple of week. Grand kids are here to spend the night, so I will be gone for while. Back later.
- 198.81.26.145 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:25:50 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: I have tried to send emails to Trix--no luck. If I just reply to her email, I get through. She missed out on my cousin Werner's long email about their trip to Gottschee this fall. RATS! Anyway, hello to all.
- 66.140.93.190 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:27:18 (UTC)

:
butter cookies usually keep quite a long time. We will make ours next weekend. I love the batter -- not an ounce of fat or calories !!!! I don't seem to have any trouble with Minnesota. I am a Viking fan.
- 64.12.96.44 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:29:00 (UTC)

Jim:
that was me in the last unsigned email.
- 64.12.96.234 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:29:17 (UTC)

Irene:
Thanks Marilu.
- 66.66.196.5 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:31:38 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hello everyone
- 199.243.152.147 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:34:20 (UTC)

Sonja in Kitchener:
Good evening, Irene. This is Sonja in Kitchener, Canada. Regarding making cookies, I've learned from my mother and grandmother to make the cookies weeks, if not months, in advance of Christmas. Get out all of your Tupperware storage containers (free advertising for Tupperware!!) and place them in the freezer. They don't need much thawing prior to your serving them. I've make Vanillikipferl, Spritzgebaeck, Stollen. As a matter of fact, a few years ago, we didn't use up or serve all of our Christstollen and we "found" it in the freezer in March! My husband was certain that it tasted much better when it was 3 months old than when it was fresh. Ever since that year, I try to get the Stollen into the freezer by the end of October.
- 64.12.96.139 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:34:43 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Will log off now. Work to do. Gute Nacht. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.93.190 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:34:52 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
MMM cookies sound good right now.
- 199.243.152.147 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:35:58 (UTC)

Ridy:
Makes me feel better to know I'm not the only one whose mail is rejected by Trix's server. We went through that earlier this fall.
Irene ~ butter cookies and Kipfel keep extremely well because of the high butter content. You can keep them at least a week in a tin, to begin with. However, if you want to bake ahead, you can make them as much as 3 months ahead and freeze them. I often did that in the past. Just store them with a sheet of wax paper separating the layers and put them in an airtight container before putting them in the freezer. I usually put a large plastic food bag in a tin, layer the cookies inside the plastic bag, extract all the air, and then close the tin. That way they are protected and sealed, and I don't think anyone ever noticed that they had not been baked that day!
- 64.229.239.202 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:36:50 (UTC)

Franz:
Good Evening All, I am actually baaack.
- 172.175.191.108 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:37:41 (UTC)

Irene:
Thank you Sonja for the great advice.

Hi Sharon, Haven't talked with you in a while.
- 66.66.196.5 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:37:59 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi everyone. I can't believe I am reading about all the problems you are having with me. Golly, what's happening? Ridy, all my mail to you have returned so I jumped to the conclusion that you are setting up your new computer. I am sorry. Dr. Jim - you don't suppose one has to be a Vikint fan, do you?

Irene bake the cookies and put them in the freezer. They are wonderful eaten frozen too. Try to make some special Gottscheer Tea or Glühwein. Both are great with frozen cookies.

Am trying to watch the Vikings game. Can you believe it?

It's tough going at the Wyant Haus. Clint fell on Wednesday and fell again on Thursday but got hurt. Spent Friday in ER and learned that he has fractured ribs. As you probably all know the pain is unbelievable. The medication contains codeine and the side effects are bad, i.e. dizziness, hallucinations, non-responsive, his legs turning to jello. I am hoping that the doctor was right that the immediate pain should leave within 6 days. If that is not the case we will need to look at alternate care, which, hopefully would be short term. All my Christmas stuff has been put on the back burner. First things first.

Keep on chatting. Will check back. Ridy and Margaret, keep trying to send you mail. I have not had any other complaints.
- 216.251.169.35 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:38:11 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi Irene, I have been so busy. Did some baking with my youngest niece last week. She knocked over the container of sprinkles. The cookies turned out yummy though.
- 199.243.152.147 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:39:33 (UTC)

Sonja:
Hey, Ridy! Nice to be chatting with you this evening!
- 64.12.97.8 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:39:45 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hi Sonja!
Some day you'll have to tell the rest of us how you find time to run a household which includes two young boys, hold down a full time job, sing with bands all over the country, model, and dance with the Alpine Club dancers! Just thinking about it made even more tired than I already am!
- 64.229.239.202 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:40:19 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Chicago Franz. I, we, have all been worried about you. Glad you are back. Almost called you just to make sure you are ok. Obviously you are. Wunderbar.
- 216.251.169.35 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:41:45 (UTC)

Ridy:
Franz!
I just realized I'm not as tired as I thought I was -- now that you are back! Where have you been? Never mind - just nice to have you back!
- 64.229.239.202 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:42:38 (UTC)

Ridy:
Trix - time to get in touch with your server again - just had another e-mail returned.
So sorry to hear about the problems with Clint. . . .
- 64.229.239.202 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:44:00 (UTC)

Sonja:
Chrispy cream donuts help!! Just kidding. We had them for the first time tonight from the Kitchener store which just opened 2 weeks ago. The line ups of the fanatics aren't as long as they were when they opened the Mississauga location. It will be Mike Schleimer's birthday coming up on Wednesday, so he and Roseanne brought 2 dozen Crispy Cream donuts for everyone to enjoy after dance practice.
P.S. I am anticipating sending platefuls of cookies and squares to the school with Max, to the day care with Felix, to my husband's office, to my work place, to the neighbours on both sides of us and those across the street. My goodness, I sure hope my family isn't expecting too many sweets, because there might not be any left by the time Christmas comes!!
- 64.12.96.9 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:46:02 (UTC)

Franz:
Trix, Unkraut verdierbt nicht und Mistvieh stirbt nicht, thanks for your concern. Had trouble and repeated trouble with this machine, gave up for a while lost everything in it. After getting my sanity back I will try it for a while.
- 172.175.191.108 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:47:18 (UTC)

Jim:
Hello, Franz. Missed the RSNA this year. Maybe I will be back in Chicago next time. The Vikes are winning so far but the Pack is knocking at the door.
- 64.12.96.7 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:47:35 (UTC)

Ridy:
Your cousin Ridy has decided not to bake this Christmas, and she'd appreciate some! :)
- 64.229.239.202 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:47:43 (UTC)

Franz:
Ridy, didn't know I have any magic left.
- 172.175.191.108 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:48:23 (UTC)

Sonja:
I'll be signing off now. We want to send a few more e-mails out before we retire for the night. Ridy, I'll "talk" to you tomorrow from work. Have a nice evening. Guate Nocht alle miteinondr. Sonja
- 64.12.96.70 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:48:26 (UTC)

Jim:
Trix, the first couple of days are the most painful. Rib injuries are not dangerous in and of themselves but I am told they hurt like the dickens.
- 64.12.96.201 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:48:40 (UTC)

Ridy:
Franz - sounds like you need a new machine as well. Christopher just finished setting this one up for me this evening and I'm still trying to figure out how it works.
- 64.229.239.202 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:49:36 (UTC)

Sonja:
Ridy, will you come to the Alpine this Sunday for the family Christmas party?
- 64.12.96.75 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:49:39 (UTC)

Franz:
Hello Jim, I was wondering about your convention, for myself, I had some turbulence, however the ship is upright again.
- 172.175.191.108 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:51:02 (UTC)

Ridy:
Nope - not unless they move the Alpine to Toronto! :)
- 64.229.239.202 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:52:05 (UTC)

Jim:
Franz, glad to see that you are back. I hear the weather was downright Chicago-like last week. Cold, windy, and with a modicum of snow.
- 64.12.97.10 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:55:05 (UTC)

Franz:
JIM, yes this is Chicago the Winy City.
- 172.175.191.108 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 02:57:22 (UTC)

Franz:
Ridy, I am not shure if I am cut to tackle these monsters. Life used to be much simpler.
- 172.175.191.108 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 03:01:09 (UTC)

Jim:
signing off for now. Have a good week.
- 64.12.96.238 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 03:01:42 (UTC)

Franz:
Jim, Good Night, I am right behind you.
- 172.175.191.108 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 03:02:21 (UTC)

Ridy:
Good night, all.
Franz - my daughter was in Chicago recently and she insisted the weather was much nicer there than it was in Toronto. Maybe I'll fly with her the next time she has to visit the Kraft home office.
- 64.229.239.202 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 03:05:26 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Franz, how nice to have you back. I have the grand kids in bed, is anyone still here.
- 198.81.26.235 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 03:05:53 (UTC)

Irene:
Good night from me as well. Keep calm everyone. Christmas will get here ready or not.
- 66.66.196.5 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 03:06:12 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Sounds like everyone is heading for bed. See you all next week.
- 198.81.26.170 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 03:08:20 (UTC)

Trix:
Ridy, what kind of computer did you get? I hope an XP.

- 216.251.169.35 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 03:14:17 (UTC)

Trix:
Gute Nacht von Minnesota. Schaft gut.
- 216.251.169.35 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 03:15:12 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Posted on GBB:

I think that the whole subject of the WWII Gottschee resettlement and subsequent repercussions has been very well covered in these pages. Most recently there have been two arguments, and two rebuttals.

Unless anyone has new, substantive information to post regarding this subject, I'm *asking* that we let this topic stand for now. Meaningful discussion is one thing, endless rehashing is quite another. I will not waste space and bandwidth on the latter.

If you have any questions, please email me.

- 204.180.133.234 - Monday, December 09, 2002 at 18:15:22 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Oops did I chase the regulars away, I hope not!
- 209.166.149.148 - Friday, December 13, 2002 at 20:07:16 (UTC)

Irene:
Hope everyone's Christmas preparations are going well, both spriitually and phsycially. Weather out here is "frightful." Snow and more snow.
- 24.195.33.152 - Friday, December 13, 2002 at 20:53:13 (UTC)

Trix:
No Helmut, you did not scare the regulars away. Just a busy time of the year, I guess. Your message was very appropriate and well stated and for that I say: Danke.

Well Irene, Minnesota is enjoying a beautiful day. It is in the 40's, I have laundry on the line (and it will dry - imagine that) and we have bare ground. Quite a change from the customary days but I LOVE IT. People are ice fishing and they tell me that they are biting. My husband is slowly healing from his bad falls and life, at least for now, is very good.

How goes the typing?

Mr. Rabuse - Thanks for the info on the HP 5550 printer. LOVE IT!!!

And Ridy, how goes it with the new computer?

- 209.240.245.130 - Friday, December 13, 2002 at 21:16:25 (UTC)

Franz:
Helmuth, thank you, well stated.
- 172.148.174.191 - Friday, December 13, 2002 at 21:31:53 (UTC)

Ridy:
Helmuth - Thanks for your message; much appreciated.

Hi Gang! Did my Christmas shopping today -- everything in two hours! I can't believe it myself. In truth, I never had a better shopping day, and it must be one of the benefits of looking as old as I am. In no fewer than 3 stores, when I asked the clerk where I could find and item, they told me to wait there, they'd bring it to me! That's never happened to me before, and if that's what getting older is all about, I'm all for it! My list was wiped out in no time, and here I am, survived the shopping for another year. Yippeeee! Our weather was in the low 40s and not a spec of snow on the ground. My kind of day. Hope the rest of you are all enjoying the busy season!
- 64.229.236.136 - Friday, December 13, 2002 at 22:35:08 (UTC)

Irene:
Guess you can't believe what Garrison Kiellor says about Minn. We are having a Chrismas party tonight; rain and snow are forecast. All I know about ice fishing is listening to Kiellor's stories. Glad your husband is on the mend.

Ridy, I'm in awe. I went into a couple of stores and there was only one clerk behind the register in each store. I could have fainted and no one would have thought to see if I needed help. Very impressive service in Canada.

I'm all set food wise for this party. But I need to tidy up. Bye

I'm still typing.
- 24.195.33.152 - Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 18:24:54 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hope you had a wonderful party,Irene!

Trust me, the reason I mentioned my very pleasant shopping experience yesterday was because it was totally unusual. My sisters, I think, are getting ready to ask me to take a lie detector test -- they think I made it all up! Some days, you're just lucky, and yesterday was my lucky day.
- 64.229.236.136 - Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 04:19:49 (UTC)

Trix:
Frankly Ridy, it couldn't have happened to a nicer person. You deserve that kind of a break. I do the majority of my shopping on the Internet and am very comfortable with that too. My daughters and I use to go after Christmas shopping every year, go out for lunch and have a ball. You couldn't pay me to do that anymore. Am I getting old or does the saying: "Been there - done that" apply?
- 209.240.245.141 - Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 05:30:55 (UTC)

Trix:
Happy Sunday to all. Hope you are enjoying whatever you are doing. Remember to cheer for the Vikings. Look forward to a good chat tonight.
- 216.251.169.34 - Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 18:18:52 (UTC)

Russell:
I'm having a 1-day weekend. Tonight I might be going out on strike. I have a brother who is annoyed because I can't go to his house on Christnmas Eve. I have to rewrite some of my Cards because the address book is wrong. My wife wants to get the house cleaned up but doesn't want to throw out anything.

So what else is new?
- 205.188.209.78 - Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 19:45:29 (UTC)

Trix:
Russell - GREAT SHARING. I hope you can hear me laughing. Welcome to the real world! Golly, isn't it something how it never rains that it doesn't pour. I know you didn't ask for feedback but I can't resist. Here goes:

First, you can't do much about the potential strike; Second, tell your brother to get a life and understand; Third, correct the address book so that you don't have to do it again and

Fourth, tell your wife to let go of junk stuff. Been there, done that and feels wonderful.

Having said all of that enjoy a good Sunday. Who knows what tomorrow will bring.
- 209.240.245.132 - Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 20:12:09 (UTC)

Russell:
And some of the stuff I have in the basement is stuff he asked me to hold on to. In June I'll just send him an announcement of a yard sale. The closest I'll come to getting rid of his stuff is to say:
EVERYTHING WILL GO!

I don't mind the feedback. I need something to laugh at. At choir this morning, my voice was up there. It gave me a chance to get my frustrations out.
- 205.188.209.133 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 00:31:39 (UTC)

Russell:
Anyone on?
- 205.188.209.12 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 01:31:19 (UTC)

Russell:
I guess not.
I'm going to bed. I have to get up at 4am to be at work for 7am.
- 205.188.208.73 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 01:39:25 (UTC)

Trix:
Thanks Russell. Good for you and your strong singing voice. I can just hear you. Sleep well - it is going to be a short night and you are going to be missed.
- 216.251.169.45 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:07:46 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all are well. Beautiful here in KCMO. s65 today, maybe 70. Set some records. But very, very dry.
- 66.140.93.105 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:11:35 (UTC)

Irene:
Sorry to hear Russell is having a spell.
Our party went well. Snow stayed away but it did rain. Does anyone know any Kresse that did their genealogy research?
- 24.195.33.38 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:13:33 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Hope New York can avoid a transit strike. Know it will be very hard on all concerned. Last minute meetings may come up with something.
- 66.140.93.105 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:15:14 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Not many on tonight. Am very tired. Did outside work today. Need to go to bed. Sorry to log off so early. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund. Alles gute.
- 66.140.93.105 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:17:46 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Anyone in town tonight? Am plugging in information. Will check back from time to time. Just finished wrapping most of my wife's gifts.
- 152.163.189.235 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:41:35 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello...where is everyone tonite??
- 198.81.26.239 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:41:35 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim...you mean you have presents wrapped already.
- 198.81.26.234 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:42:45 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hi everyone!
Just taking a breather from writing cards. Didn't do a letter this year so all the overseas cards are taking longer. It's raining in Toronto - not nice at all.
- 64.229.236.136 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:44:42 (UTC)

Irene:
Hi Ridy, I wrote my cards but still haven't done cookies.
- 24.195.33.38 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:46:41 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Marilu, have to wrap the gifts to know whether or not I think I have enough for Santa to give out. I buy things as time goes by and then hide them. Linda's bday is in January so I have to keep an eye out for that as well.
- 152.163.189.135 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:48:30 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Ridy and Irene..I went to a wonderful Christmas concert this afternoon by the Air Force Academy Band.
- 198.81.26.230 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:48:42 (UTC)

Ridy:
Got about have of those done and sitting in the freezer. I also do a tea bread which is sort of a cross between a Gugelhupf and a light fruit cake. Made that and it's now sitting in the fridge, wrapped in cognac soaked cheesecloth. It lasts forever around here because nobody is really all that crazy about it - but it's a tradition.
- 64.229.236.136 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:49:45 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We did our cookies Thanksgiving weekend, and my letter is written, and the address list is ready for the computer to print out the address labels. I at least use Christmas labels and script letters!
- 198.81.26.208 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:50:47 (UTC)

Ridy:
The closest I got to good music was playing my Elisabeth Schwarzkopf (Betty Blackhead) Christmas CD at full blast! Would have preferred to go out to a concert.
- 64.229.236.136 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:52:34 (UTC)

Irene:
Marilu,
Band playing Xmas carols must be very stiring

- 24.195.33.38 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:52:49 (UTC)

Ridy:
Can't figure out how to print out individual labels - guess I'll have to read the instructions, which I will have to find first.
- 64.229.236.136 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:54:03 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
It was wonderful..almost 2 full hours. and was free besides!
- 198.81.26.139 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:54:28 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ridy, you can do it! It's pretty easy really. Have to have all address in a database first, and the rest is zip!
- 198.81.26.171 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:55:56 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
We made our spritz cookies today. The old hand cranked cookie press died two years ago and I now use a battery powered one. Works well but it feels like cheating. My forearms used to bulge when I used the "real" thing.
- 152.163.188.229 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:56:30 (UTC)

Ridy:
Thanks a bunch, Marilu.... nothing is zip at my age anymore. I'm feeling about 99 right about now. That's my age, upside down, in case you didn't get it.
- 64.229.236.136 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:57:31 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, I bought a cookie press on HSN that is a lever action, and it sure works good. My old one died about 2 years ago too.
- 198.81.26.233 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 02:58:58 (UTC)

Ridy:
It must have been a mass suicide pact among cookie press machines because mine died two years ago as well. Got my new on on Bridge Kitchenware or something like that and by the time I paid for exchange, shipping and handling, customs duty, and Canadian sales tax, I could have imported all the cookies I'm ever going to make with it from France! Haven't tried it out yet..........
- 64.229.236.136 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:03:42 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
lololol Ridy you are tooooo funny!
- 198.81.27.11 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:06:47 (UTC)

Irene:
I'm going to call it a night. My husband is watching Lord of the Rings on DVD. The sound is traveling loudly into the kitchen where the computer is located. Bed will give me some quiet.

Take care everyone.
- 24.195.33.38 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:09:25 (UTC)

Ridy:
http://ridy.dyndns.org/gallery/
Christopher just now connected me to my eventual web page and dumped some family photos on it. Can you access it?
- 64.229.236.136 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:09:28 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Yep, just did and saw some photos!
- 198.81.26.238 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:11:23 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I enjoyed Lord of the Rings and have the DVD. When the surround sound is on, it is like a roaring thunderstorm. I can't wait to see the next installment. I will try to catch Star Trek as well.
- 152.163.188.37 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:12:41 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hmmm, Magic~
Thanks, Marilu. Don't think I'll have time to work on it for the next couple of weeks, but eventually the recipes, etc., will go on there.
- 64.229.236.136 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:12:44 (UTC)

Ridy:
Tell me what Star Trek is like when you see it, Jim. I'm a Trekie... or however you spell it.
- 64.229.236.136 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:13:37 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I bookmarked the page, so I can keep checking it.
- 198.81.26.198 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:14:39 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I think it is Trekkie but I hear the fans do not like to be referred to as such. I am a fan but am not absorbed enough in the technobabble to qualify as hard core. I enjoyed all the series but there are quite a few episodes of each of them that I have yet to see. Perhaps I will tape them if they ever have a marathon on TV. The CDs and DVDs are too expensive to buy.
- 152.163.188.34 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:16:42 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hate to be a party pooper, but I must get back to those cards.
Good night, and have a busy but good week. :)
- 64.229.236.136 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:17:19 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Saw the second Harry Potter movie. Cute but a bit too young for my taste. Lord of the Rings has a darker edge to it and is more to my liking.
- 152.163.188.8 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:17:44 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Ridy, have a good week. Linda does a great job with the cards. They are pretty much done and either out or close to it.
- 152.163.189.232 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:18:27 (UTC)

Ridy:
We've been having Star Trek Marathons all week, including today. Bit hard to watch when you're writing addresses, and listening to Christmas carols....
Gute Nacht
- 64.229.236.136 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:18:55 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I wonder where Trix is tonight. I would guess she is engrossed in a favorite TV show or she is still basking in the glow of a hard fought Viking win. Gutsy call to go for the win with a two point conversion. I guess the season is spoken for and they need something to build on.
- 152.163.188.165 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:20:07 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good Night Ridy. And Jim. Merry Christmas to all, in case I don't see you next week. We are having our family Christmas next Sunday.
- 198.81.26.170 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:20:39 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Ridy, what channel?? Is it a cable channel? Perhaps I can get it.
- 152.163.189.173 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:20:47 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Good night to one and all. A small group tonight but, as always, a good one.
- 152.163.188.7 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:21:24 (UTC)

Elmer Spreitzer:
Please include me on your mailing list. Much thanks.
Elmer Spreitzer
326 Westwood Dr
Bowling Green, Ohio 43402
espreit@bgnet.bgsu.edu
- 129.1.47.59 - Monday, December 16, 2002 at 22:34:32 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hello everyone--missed the Plauderzimmer-mycomputor was being rebuilt, and I just got it back--Can anyone tell me anything about Russell? Is he O.K.?
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 05:23:37 (UTC)

Russell:
I'm ok.
A contract was worked out a couple of hours ago. No strike.
- 152.163.189.205 - Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 09:18:26 (UTC)

Heinrich Stalzer:
Gruessgot! Anybody know when, or if, Pula or Pola, was part of Austria? Both my granfather and father where from there, and his numerous uncles! They were emoployees and/or members of the navy.

I have a simple question, if you please. When was this port city part of Austria, or Italy. I believe it was part of Jugoslavia from 1917 til 1995.

By the way, the last Stalzer in Pula passed away in 1999. In his spare time, he ooperated a speed-boat taking tourists for a thrill ride in the Adriatic.

Heinrich
- 68.63.113.168 - Wednesday, December 18, 2002 at 00:36:53 (UTC)

Irene:
Gruessot Heinrich, Pula is the main city of the peninsula Istria. Part of the peninsula became Austrian in 1799. However, Napolion took it in 1805, and lost it in 1813. Pula remained part ot the Austrian Hungarian empire from 1813 to 1918. Check out the website below for a detailed history of the area.

http://www.hr/darko/etf/jadran.html
- 24.29.68.79 - Wednesday, December 18, 2002 at 17:16:40 (UTC)

Irene:
Paul,
Welcome back, we have been missing you.
Russell, glad to hear you are fine. Hope your health is fine as well.
- 24.29.68.79 - Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 01:08:15 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hi Irene-Thanks for the kind words.Busy time of the year for me-helping my son with his business-computor was out for awhile-just got it totally revamped..Maybe i will get lucky this weekend and make the Plauderzimmer...
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 03:48:06 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Glad to hear you are OK Russell..Stay well.....We have to stay well this time of year for our Grandkids sake, as well as everyone else.....I remember being sick one year-moons ago, and my grand kids were besides themselves..Cheers.
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 03:51:54 (UTC)

FRIDRICH:
ich binsche aich alle gottschers froiliche bainochten und ein g utes NAIES JUHR.fr quens ny.
- 68.161.93.160 - Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 22:07:31 (UTC)

Gerhard:
Frohe Weihnachten und ein gutes Neues Jahr wünsche ich Euch Allen im Plauderzimmer.
Liebe Grüße aus Österreich
Gerhard
- 62.218.2.99 - Friday, December 20, 2002 at 16:53:04 (UTC)

Edith Eisenkölbl-Gliebe:
Merry Christmas an Happy New Year to you all in Plauderzimmer from Kapfenberg (Austria)
- 195.3.113.5 - Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 13:18:07 (UTC)

Trix:
Happy Sunday to you all. Hope you are enjoying a wonderful day wherever you are. Here in Minnesota it is cloudy and yes, we will have a white Christmas!

In case I do not make it to the Plauderzimmer tonight I want to say THANK YOU for your wonderful friendship, sharing and caring throughout the past year. It has been a joy to chat with you about many subjects, including Gottschee, which, after all bonds us in this forum. To Helmut Kump - Danke for making it available.

Thought you might enjoy knowing that the church Maria Hilf in the village of Rodine (Eastern part of the former Gottschee) is in the process of being renovated. It truly is a joint effort between many, including the priest of Tschernembl (Crnomelj), August Gril, President of the Altsiedler Gottscheer Verein in Krapflern and Gottscheers from around the world, including Canada and the USA.
- 216.251.169.40 - Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 16:24:44 (UTC)

Trix:
continued: The renovation project will be completed late summer of 2003 and a dedication mass with a day of celebrating is set for Sept. 8. All are invited to attend. So, if any of you are thinking about visiting our former homeland this might be a good time to do it. Also, if you wish to donate to the project please let me know. All donations, large or small, will be gratefully accepted and the names of all donors will appear on a plaque, inside the entry way of the church, upon completion.
- 216.251.169.40 - Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 16:27:59 (UTC)

Elaine Clamser:
Ridy:
Would like to purchase your book. Attempts to contact you by e-mail have come back as "failed mail." Is ridy@sympatico.ca not correct? Please post how to purchase your book. Thanks.
- 67.226.225.27 - Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 16:29:37 (UTC)

Trix:
continued: (I learned another lesson. Actually, I originally typed this entire message as one document but surprise, surprise it didn't take me anywhere. So, finally figured out that I needed to do it in shorter versions).

The members of the Peter Kosler Verein, in the western region, under the able leadership of Erik Krisch and Emil Kresse are busy as well. They are currently raising funds to preserve what is left of the once beautiful church in Graflinden. In addition they are busy helping with plans for the 100 year anniversary of the beautiful church in the city of Gottschee. More details will be coming soon.

And finally my family and I wish all of you a wonderful Christmas and an even better New Year. May you be blessed with good health, love, joy and peace. FROHE WEIHNACHTEN liebe Freunde.

Sophia Stalzer-Wyant born in der Moschnitze and since 1952 a Minnesotan.
- 216.251.169.40 - Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 16:31:51 (UTC)

Trix:
An alle Gottscheer in Europe send ich die liebsten Grüße für ein Gesegnetes Weihnachtsfest und ein gutes Neues Jahr. Ich wünche Euch die liebe Gesundheit, Liebe, viel Spaß und Friede

Ich hoffe auf ein Wiedersehen in der alten Heimat in 2005.
Pfiat Ei Gött.
- 216.251.169.40 - Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 16:34:31 (UTC)

Russell:
And Happy holidays to you also Trix.
And everybody else!
- 152.163.188.194 - Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 19:35:38 (UTC)

Irene:
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all the wonderful people on the plauderzimmer.

Trix I changed my computer and lost your email address. Could you email me I would like to make a contribution.
- 24.29.68.79 - Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 21:01:31 (UTC)

Trix:
Thank you Irene. It is wyants@mlecmn.net. You are appreciated. Time off from the typewriter. Enjoy the holidays and then return to cranking out the pages.

When you are ready to publish I would be delighted to share some of the thanks that our daughter used. Quite beautifully done.

Frohe Weihnachten.
- 209.240.245.156 - Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 21:14:38 (UTC)

Ridy:
To Elaine Clamser:
I am sorry you have not been able to get through to me on my e-mail address which is, as you correctly have it
ridy@sympatico.ca
My server has been giving me a lot of grief for quite a while now, and obviously your message to me suffered the same fate as some others.
My mailing address is:
Ridy Hoegler Skyrme
60 Somerdale Square
Toronto (Scarborough)
Ontario M1E 1N1 Canada
The cost of the book is $25 US or $35 CDN
If you would like to try to send me another e-mail with your mailing address, I'll get a copy out to you in tomorrow's mail - although I don't think there is much chance it will reach you. I've sent the last copies by FedEx, if you need it for Christmas giving.
Thank you, Helmuth, for allowing me to use this space to sell MEMORIES OF CHILDHOOD!
- 64.229.233.226 - Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 22:15:36 (UTC)

Frank Schmuck:
Hi Sophia Thank you for the lovely Xmas card we all loved it . And it got sent to at least half dozen of my friends even nach Deutschland and Österich. But the quote of the day I am not sure it applies to me in 20 years I shall be surprised if I still wish I had donne somthing that I did not. Love Franz.
- 66.119.174.89 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 00:50:07 (UTC)

Russell:
For what it is worth, I'm here.
- 152.163.188.165 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 00:53:33 (UTC)

:

- 66.119.174.89 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 00:54:13 (UTC)

Trix:
Well, Russell, I think it is pretty darn important that you are here. So, how goes it and how is life treating you? No doubt happy a strike was averted. Will return later, I hope, and chat some more.
- 216.251.169.29 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 00:56:07 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Franz. Glad that you like the card. I did too. Hey, you and I have a lot of living to do yet. I want to explore all that I possible can while I have the opportunity. In spite of it all, life is good. Keep checking in and perhaps you will join us our chat a bit later. Regards to you and your family and auf Wiederhöhren.
- 216.251.169.29 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 00:57:33 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Will wish everyone a happy holiday and not stay on too long. We leave for Las Vegas Wednesday morning. Lots to do.
- 64.218.109.56 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 02:06:59 (UTC)

Trix:
Margaret, may you too have a wonderful Christmas and a great New Year. Going to Las Vegas? Good luck and enjoy.
- 216.251.169.29 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 02:28:54 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
Froha uend geschegnete Beinochtn binsch I olle Goetscheabaren aeuf dr gonz Badlt. Froehliche Weihnachten, Merry Christmas to all Gottscheers in the world.
- 172.146.46.130 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 02:55:42 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello and Merry Christmas greetings to my Gottscheer friends.
- 205.188.209.105 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 02:57:47 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
Jim, Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones.
- 172.146.46.130 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:04:39 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
Jo, schluftn nue da Canadier schon?
- 172.146.46.130 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:06:57 (UTC)

Trix:
My goodness is it really Chicago Franz? Good for you and you too Dr. Jim. Can't be that the Canadier is already sleeping. No way! So, how goes it Franz and Dr. Jim?
- 216.251.169.29 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:08:48 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I am back. Just sending a family file to someone. Will be sending another out shortly. Depending on the family interest, the files may provide good conversation over the holidays or be deathly boring.
- 205.188.209.172 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:12:24 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Franz, how are you doing? How is the great city of Chicago? I hope to get there next year for the RSNA. Perhaps Linda will come out as well.
- 205.188.208.42 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:13:14 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
Jim, I hope you and Linda will make it next year. Maybe we could go out and paint good old Chicago Town. Thanks for asking, I am doing just fine, rehabing a dislocated left shoulder, no big deal.
- 172.146.46.130 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:20:00 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
Hi Trix, yes I am still alive.
- 172.146.46.130 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:21:09 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
We had our XMas party last night. No hangover but I could use a masseuse.
- 205.188.208.75 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:23:29 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
The spritz cookies are ready and the cupboard is full. The malls are packed and I am glad that I have most of what I need for the Christmas tree.
- 205.188.208.138 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:24:52 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Grüß Euch Gott, Alle Miteinander!
My son just got through trying to figure out (by remote control) what the glitch is in my e-mail program and we're no wiser for his effort. If any of you are having problems reaching me, please be patient. It just seems to be something which keeps happening to me.
Are all of you ready for Christmas?
Had a good (albeit silent)laugh today which I must share. After Mass at St. Michael's Cathedral in downtown Toronto it was almost as if the entire congregation (the Cathedral is always standing room only for Sunday Masses), in a very orderly procession, made it's way to the Eaton Centre, a scant two blocks away! The Eaton Centre is our biggest downtown indoor shopping mall. There were an awful lot of us doing last minute shopping!
- 64.229.233.226 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:25:12 (UTC)

Ridy:
Jim - did you see where the Lakers had to go into overtime to finally beat the Raptors by one measly point? Pretty good for the Raptors, I'd say. Actually, I don't know what I'm talking about -- just going by what Christopher told me. He was at the game.
- 64.229.233.226 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:29:40 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, Ridy. For a nonshopper, going to a mall at this time of year is like going to get "mauled". I would rather do manual labor on a rock pile.
- 205.188.209.12 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:30:27 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I have not had any problems with your emails (although if I am not getting them --- how would I know).
- 205.188.209.173 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:31:25 (UTC)

Ridy:
I'll consider that for next year. It really left me quite drained of all energy, and I only had two more gifts to buy. But as a treat I bought one for myself as well.
- 64.229.233.226 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:32:49 (UTC)

Ridy:
The problem is more with mail coming in, rather than going out. Even test mail I've been asked to send to myself isn't getting to me.
- 64.229.233.226 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:34:15 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
The Lakers are having a very tough year. I went to the game against the Nets and they looked absolutely putrid. I thought they might call on me to help them out. Very sorry looking team. No cohesiveness.
- 205.188.209.109 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:34:54 (UTC)

Ridy:
What happened to our buddy from Chicago? Did I chase him away?
- 64.229.233.226 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:35:02 (UTC)

Ridy:
Thanks a lot for those encouraging words, Jim. That doesn't say much for our Raptors, does it?!!
- 64.229.233.226 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:35:46 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
The email is probably getting lost in the wilds of northern Canada near Hudson Bay. Perhaps Baffin Island or points west in the Yukon.
- 205.188.209.41 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:36:03 (UTC)

Ridy:
Cute! :)
- 64.229.233.226 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:36:39 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
The Raptors have some talent but are having their own problems at this point in time.
- 205.188.208.39 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:36:48 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I thought I would throw in some Canadian geography. Glad that you approve (or at least, said it was cute).
- 205.188.208.136 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:37:31 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Franz and Trix, are you still around?
- 205.188.209.133 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:38:06 (UTC)

Ridy:
I must admit I know more about geography than I do about basketball, and that's saying something. Christopher could not believe his ears when I asked where the game was played. Hey, mother's can't be expected to know everything now, can they?!!
- 64.229.233.226 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:39:13 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I did a little too much
- 205.188.208.140 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:40:52 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
dancing last night night. As always, the spirit was willing but the knees and lower back were weak. All in all, a great time.
- 205.188.208.166 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:41:36 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi, checking in again. Hope you are both doing well tonight. It is peaceful here, got everything done and now let the activities begin. All 13 of us will gather at Waukenabo starting late tomorrow afternoon. Ice fishing is in full swing (and they are biting, I am told) and yes, we do have a little snow. This is fine with me. Have been enjoying our wood fire and have decided to quit complaining about the dust. It is worth it, I guess.
- 216.251.169.29 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:41:49 (UTC)

Trix:
Gees, I haven't really danced for probably 3 years now although I love it. Am trying to teach the grandchildren to do it the Gottscheer way - smooth rather than the jumping up and down stuff. Will keep trying. Am not ready to give up, no way in hell.
- 216.251.169.29 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:43:19 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
We had a little fire today for atmosphere. I do have some large pieces of wood to split when it gets a little colder and they freeze up. Some pieces have knots in them and will pose a challenge.
- 205.188.209.40 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:43:47 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
My dancing is definitely on the frenetic side. Just like my basketball -- very energetic but not polished.
- 205.188.209.37 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:44:45 (UTC)

Ridy:
I think Franz and Trix sneaked out of the room when we weren't looking,Jim. Due to my acute need for sleep, I think I'll also call it a night, but not before I wish all our Plauderzimmer buddies and all those listening in silently a very Merry Christmas!
And to all our friends in Austria and Germany
FROHE WEIHNACHTEN!

- 64.229.233.226 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:44:59 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Ridy, I was hanging in here for a short while longer but bid you a fond adieu. If I don't email you before then, have a Merry and Healthy Christmas ----- Frohe Weihnachten !!!
- 205.188.208.42 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:46:32 (UTC)

Trix:
Same here. Gute Nacht Ridy and Dr. Jim. Enjoy a wonderful Christmas.
- 216.251.169.29 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:48:33 (UTC)

Ridy:
Trix - just saw your note about dancing 'smoothly' -- bravo! My father would definitely approve and he was the best. I hate that jerking and pumping up and down and all over the place. Haven't danced in centuries, alas...
- 64.229.233.226 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:49:15 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I guess it is time to hang it up. Take care!!
- 205.188.209.136 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:49:26 (UTC)

Ridy:
Gute Nacht!
- 64.229.233.226 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 03:50:06 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Adie and I wish everyone on the Plauderzimmer The best Of Christmas...So sorry I had to miss you all again tonite.It is midnite on long Island and all is well.....Have a happy holiday everyone....
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 05:06:44 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Just dropping in to say Merry Christmas to everyone. We had our family Christmas here today, all 18 of us. It was a full and fun day. Good food, Good drinks, nice presents, lots of good talk. What more can you ask for? And good weather for driving for everyone. Christmas Day will be quiet, and that is OK with me.
- 198.81.26.141 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 05:29:33 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Monday A.M.: It's snowing! Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow! Looks like we will have a White Christmas. We took our annual pictures outside yesterday. Could not do it today.
- 198.81.26.173 - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 18:17:11 (UTC)

Russell:
Here in NYC we're expecting snow for Wednesday. Probably won't know what we'll get until Tuesday night. 3" to 6" snow if it doesn't turn to rain.
- 209.240.198.61 - Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 00:07:57 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Merry Christmas to those of you whom I cannot reach by E-Mail, for whatever the reason..Just want to repeat my good wishes to all of you for a very Blessed-Healthy-Happy Holiday...God bless...
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 18:59:41 (UTC)

Russell:
Last night on Christmas Eve, it snowed here a little. Not much. Just a coating. On wednesday morning it started to rain. Supposed to rain all afternoon. This evening the rain should turn to snow. Depending on location, anywhere from 1 to 3 inches and up.
- 64.12.96.201 - Wednesday, December 25, 2002 at 20:44:38 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy Holiday Russell-Farmingdale-Bethpage has about 5 inches of snow allreadt and Blizzard like conditions right now at 8:44 P.M. Let it stop-let it stop-let it stop!
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 01:45:54 (UTC)

Russell:
Queens has itself a blizzard. The airports are open but the runways are closed. Some of the subways are out do to power outages. The snow outside my house is heavy with the water from the rain this afternoon. I think there are more inches of snow here than on Long Island. Radio says about 7 inches. At least we have a White Christmas.
- 64.12.96.78 - Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 02:23:57 (UTC)

Trix:
Russell and Paul - Thank you both for sharing the weather updates with us. Appreciate it. You will be pleased to know that we have had the "perfect" weather for Christmas. Enough snow so that it looks white but nice temperatures, sunshine and excellent ice fishing not to mention the great food. Life is good.

To you and all enjoy the rest of the Holiday Season.
- 209.240.237.149 - Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 03:52:06 (UTC)

Helmuth:
A very happy Boxing Day to our Canadian neighbors! I raise a Molson's to you. Hope everyone had a great Christmas. Pittsburgh has about 2 inches or so, and somewhat slushy/icy side roads.
- 204.180.133.234 - Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 12:13:48 (UTC)

Ridy:
This Canadian neighbour says Thank You Helmuth! A Molson's, eh? Is that a red or a white wine? :)
I am happy to report that Toronto also had a white Christmas - very lovely.
Best of all, I am back online. Before Christmas I was simply snowed under with all the preparations and then Christopher put my computer out of commission until late last evening in an unsuccessful attempt to improve something or other.
Until I get caught up with everything, please accept this thanks for all your Christmas wishes, which are all much appreciated.
Boxing Day is a holiday in Canada, one which all banks and Government employees observe religiously, but on which merchants are quite willing to pay the fines in order to reap the benefits of inviting the public in to buy their discounted wares. It's the Canadian way. Right Sherri?!
- 64.229.233.226 - Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 14:02:04 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Glad to hear that everyone is safe and sound,While the snow scene is very pretty in the back yard, this is not a good time to be in the trucking business! But I guess in one way or another everyone is inconvenienced.So we try to enjoy the good part of the situation..Trix, I am sure that your area is like a fairy land just now-enjoy....Ridy, I am glad that you are back on line.Helmuth-Thank You-Thank you-Thank You- I would never had met all these nice people if it wasn't for you.......Stay safe everyone...
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 16:02:14 (UTC)

Russell:
Exactly what is Boxing day?

- 64.12.96.199 - Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 21:21:47 (UTC)

Ridy:
Ah! Good question.
It goes back to the days of the British Empire (pronounced Empiah(naturally!) and it is the day on which the Upper Class gave gift boxes to their servants. (Probably the left-overs from their Christmas feast and whatever gifts they themselves had received and didn't want! That's just my own crabby version of the origins of the name 'Boxing Day') Maybe the servants even got the day off, don't know about that, but it is an offical holiday in Canada, and probably also in what's left of the British Empiah.
- 64.229.236.218 - Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 21:54:08 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Very interesting cousin Ridi--is your E-mail working yet?
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 23:56:51 (UTC)

Russell:
I thought Boxing day was something along the lines of bringing Christmas Gifts back to the Department Store.
- 64.12.96.138 - Friday, December 27, 2002 at 03:13:05 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Merry Christmas everyone. Well Ridy with the new government, its no longer against the law to be open on the 26th. We went over to the States today to do some shopping. I find I get great deals on Christmas decorations after Christmas. There was maybe 2 stores open here. Most of our stores choose to stay close.
- 206.172.22.166 - Friday, December 27, 2002 at 05:36:37 (UTC)

Helmuth:
As a general interest, if any of you are into playing or appreciating chess, I found an excellent game viewer and made a page out of it. My 8-year-old son Greg is into it big-time and regularly beats older kids (and his dad every few games!)
http://hwk.best.vwh.net/javachess
- 63.16.45.76 - Friday, December 27, 2002 at 12:35:50 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Two other things, Ridy I leave the wine to my better half and I stick with the Molson's lager...much better than most American beers. Back to chess for a moment, I just love the German names for the pieces.
King and Queen are, predictably, Konig and Konigen.
Bishop = Laufer (runner)
Knight = Springer (jumper)
Rook = Turm (tower)
Pawn = Bauer (farmer)
If you know how the pieces move you'll understand why these are so descriptive.
- 63.16.45.76 - Friday, December 27, 2002 at 13:01:50 (UTC)

Maria:
I'm new at this computer thing. I wish everyone happy holidays. I'm a Gottscheer and my hometown was Neugreuth. My Mother and Father were/are Peter and Agnes Staudacher. I currently live in Deposit, New York.
- 152.163.189.100 - Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 15:28:12 (UTC)

Russell:
Looks like someone got a computer for Christmas! :-)
People will be in this room on Sunday Night after 8:30 PM local time. There will be some in here before than. But on Sunday nights the room is busy. See Ya Then!
- 64.12.96.76 - Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 15:42:47 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Welcome to the Plauderzimmer Maria-Are you related to Fanny and george Staudacher who used to live in Glendale, N.Y.? Do the names Rabuse and Jaklitsch and Kump ring a bell? I was a part of that fun loving group...Happy Holiday to you.
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 19:29:00 (UTC)

tadej:
Hello!I am from Koèevje.
- 213.250.6.243 - Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 22:12:45 (UTC)

Trix:
Hello to you too from Kocevje and greetings to Maria. Hope that you both had a good Christmas. I send you warm Gottscheer greetings from Minnesota along with best wishes for a peaceful. happy and love filled New Year.
- 209.240.245.94 - Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 22:16:16 (UTC)

Trix:
Tadaj: Greetings and how are you. Tell us a little about Kocevje and what Christmas was like. Do you have lots of snow? Do you know any Gottscheers who might still be living there? We would all enjoy hearing from you again.
I was born near Tschermoschnitz (Crmosnjice) and have lived in Minnesota since 1952. I visit Kocevje the last time in 1999.
- 209.240.245.94 - Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 22:18:13 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Paul, do you still know Kumps living in New York? Did you know of a Ludwig Kump? I have his address where he lived years ago around here some place, will try to find it.
- 198.81.26.238 - Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 23:41:48 (UTC)

Helmuth:
For those that don't know, Maria is my mom. You might say she is the "oma" of the Plauderzimmer.
- 209.114.157.205 - Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 00:58:20 (UTC)

Trix:
Maria (Mrs. Kump)from one Oma to another I bid you ein herzliches Willkommen.
- 209.240.245.162 - Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 01:30:46 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hello, Maria, and a warm welcome to Helmuth's Plauderzimmer! I do hope you'll join the gang tomorrow evening.
We were in Kitchener today for a gathering of the Hoegler clan. For various reasons we had eight empty chairs at the dinner table; one is in British Columbia, four were at a wedding, and my two were in bed with the 'flu. It was nice to see everyone else, though, and I wish we could get together more often.
I also got some more old photos from a distant relative. Anyone interested in photos of people from Setsch? I'll have to figure out how to transfer them from my old computer to my new one. I'm sure a couple would be of special interest to John Herbst.
- 64.229.236.218 - Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 02:20:48 (UTC)

Joanie:
Hi. I'm on Oma's computer. It's 10:30 on Saturday night. Where is everybody?
- 152.163.189.172 - Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 03:32:12 (UTC)

Joanie:
Obviously not here... ok then ttyl Uncle Helmuth!
GO ORANGE! (hee hee)
- 152.163.189.237 - Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 03:41:39 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Hi Joanie! If you haven't already done so, show Oma how to work her in-box...thanks...
Folks, Joanie Kump is my niece and will be attending Syracuse University next year, thus the reference to Orange...Hmmm Joanie this may be a problem, I may be taking some classes at Pitt next year... :-)
- 209.166.149.30 - Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 03:56:50 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Does anyone know if Tanzberg was a town in Gottschee??
- 198.81.27.16 - Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 05:12:59 (UTC)

Trix:
I am not familiar with Tanzberg but it sure shoulds beautiful. Keep digging Marilu.
- 209.240.245.162 - Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 05:24:56 (UTC)

Trix:
Sorry Marilu - you can tell it is late. The message should read "...but it sure sounds beautiful."
- 209.240.245.162 - Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 05:25:44 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ok, Triz, what about if the spelling was Tarnzberg. Does that sound familiar?
- 198.81.26.170 - Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 05:48:49 (UTC)

Trix:
Marily: Is it possible that it could be Tanzbüchel? You know how bad handwriting can be. If not, I am not aware of any village close to Tarnzberg or Tanzberg. Sorry.
- 216.251.169.30 - Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 16:10:25 (UTC)

Russell:
Standing by. Anyone on yet?
- 152.163.188.226 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 00:32:42 (UTC)

Bill Gregory:
I'm also standing by. Have a new computer so I may be all thumbs. Hope all have a joyous Christmas.
- 63.97.145.251 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 00:51:40 (UTC)

Bill Gregory:
Correction: that should have been HAD a joyous ...
- 63.97.145.251 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 00:53:02 (UTC)

Russell:
Christmas isn't over yet. So HAVE is a good word to use. And mine has been quiet.
- 152.163.188.199 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 01:03:31 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Anybody on tonight?
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 01:56:19 (UTC)

Russell:
Me and Bill have been floating around. Others probably have as well.
- 152.163.189.235 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 01:58:12 (UTC)

Russell:
Maybe after Christmas, the regulars are too tired to come on. The newbies who got computers for Christmas haven't figured out how to get in here yet.
- 152.163.189.133 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 01:59:21 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Where are your Gottscheer families from? Mine are from Ebental and Altlag Parish. Only a few families are in Mitterdorf and Gottschee Parish.
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:01:11 (UTC)

Hans:
Guten Abend. Wie ist jeder nach Weihnachtstag?
- 152.163.188.167 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:01:23 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Sorry, but don't know the German!
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:02:18 (UTC)

Russell:
I think the first part was Good Evening. After that I think it was something to do with Christmas.
- 152.163.189.65 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:03:42 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
That is what I thought, but wasn't sure.
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:04:25 (UTC)

Ridy:
Guten Abend!
Looks like it's Boys' Night in the chat room! May I come in?
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:09:19 (UTC)

Ridy:
Bill - it's nice to see you in the chat room! How's the weather in the Sunshine State?
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:11:16 (UTC)

Russell:
I really have no idea where my family from Gottscheer. My Mother has said her grandfather came from an area north of Italy. I remember years ago someone said the area had changed its boundries sveral times in the last 130 years. So Eisenzopf (No relation (?) to Sharon) is one of those German/Italian sounding names. However my mother had also told me that her grandfather was working in the Royal Italian Court and he met and married an Italian woman from Naples. Her father was born just as the family was to leave for America. There is probably more to the story than what my mother remembers. But there are not that many people left from her family for me to ask.
- 152.163.189.200 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:12:26 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Good evening, Bill and Ridy.
- 205.188.208.102 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:13:47 (UTC)

Russell:
OK I was right about Guten Abend meaning Good Evening. I've learned something after all in here.
- 152.163.189.67 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:13:52 (UTC)

Russell:
And hello Bill, Ridy and Jim. Anyone else in here?
- 152.163.189.203 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:14:26 (UTC)

Russell:
And hello John.
- 152.163.189.102 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:14:47 (UTC)

Russell:
And I forgot about Hans!
- 152.163.188.69 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:15:21 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hi Jim! Loved the photo! I'm still learning how to use this thing - not sure why it's taking me so long. Have other things on my mind, I suppose. The fun part is that Christopher has been teaching me by remote control. Interesting.
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:15:29 (UTC)

Ridy:
Wo steckst Du, Hans?
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:16:21 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Hope all had a good Xmas and a good new year. Any old Gottscheer home remedies for muscle spasms in the back?? Would love to hear them. I know it will involve whiskey. That's the only medicine my oma knew. That and turpentine for cuts, scrapes et.
- 66.140.92.214 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:16:38 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy New Year everyone--Sorry, but I must get back to the sound of music-I wouldn't miss it for the world...
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:16:42 (UTC)

Ridy:
Margaret - the question is: How do you get muscle spasms in Las Vagas?
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:17:27 (UTC)

Trix:
Good evening to you all. Good to have you aboard. Bill Gregory, which one are you? The one from GA or FL? Just good to know so that we can keep it straight. I do know that your connection is to the beautiful village of Rieg.

Hope you all had a good Christmas. Our weather has been terrific as has the ice fishing. This, of course, made for a wonderful holiday for the grandchildren.

Good luck with your computer Bill. You will enjoy it.
- 209.240.245.174 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:18:34 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, Margaret. Muscle spasms --- tincture of time, anti-inflammatories. Conflicts about heat or cold. Some people recommend warmth while others tend to ice the area. I think warmth is recommended more often.
- 205.188.208.169 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:19:46 (UTC)

Irene:
Hello everyone, Hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas.
- 24.29.68.79 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:20:14 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello to Hans!! Nice to have people from Europe. I have been emailing with a "cousin" who has been sending me four page letters in German. My "gray matter" is getting a work out.
- 205.188.209.7 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:21:00 (UTC)

Irene:
Russell. Remember I'm an Eisenzopf as well.
- 24.29.68.79 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:21:36 (UTC)

Ridy:
üHey, this is the best attendance we've had in a while! Bring out the Glühwein and cookies, and put another log on the fire, and let's gather 'round and enjoy! Anyone else out there in cyberspace who'd like to join us?
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:22:04 (UTC)

Hans:
Ich lebe in einer kleinen Stadt nahe dem Boundry von Italien und von Schweiz.
- 152.163.188.33 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:22:06 (UTC)

Ridy:
Ah - now I know what happened to that other ü!
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:22:49 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Hello Everyone! Good to see all of you.
- 209.240.198.61 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:23:36 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Ridy,
Thanks again for the wonderful pictures. It so great to see Setsch in pictures.
- 209.240.198.60 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:24:08 (UTC)

Ridy:
Aha - nun erinnere ich mich, Hans. Do you have snow where you are in Switzerland or is it too far south?
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:24:11 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Jim, glad you logged on. Keep the gray matter moving. It keeps you from getting old (mentally). Not many on tonight. Not very CHristmasy weather today. 56 today, same tomorrow. Spent Xmas in Las Vegas. Much colder than normal there. El Nino again.

- 66.140.92.214 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:24:17 (UTC)

Trix:
Grüß Dich Hans. Wir haben schon lange nichts mehr von Dir gehöhrt. Wir hoffen die Weinachten waren gut. Hier in Minnesota ist zur Zeit sehr schönes Wetter und wenig Schnee.

I basically send greetings and tell Hans that it has been a long time since he was with us. I hope he had a good Christmas. Also tell him that the weather in Minnesota is very nice and little snow.
- 209.240.245.174 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:24:42 (UTC)

Russell:
It has been a while since I was last in here. I forgot Irene.
- 152.163.189.69 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:24:52 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
I'm not moving to France. I will be starting a new job at Hill Air Force Base for Xerox. How has the weather been in the East?
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:25:26 (UTC)

Trix:
OK Margaret, how many jackpots in Vegas? Hi John Herbst and all the others too.
- 209.240.245.174 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:26:10 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hans, kommen Ihre Vorfahren aus Gottschee?
- 205.188.209.73 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:26:23 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
The weather here in Utah has been very mild. We have had some snow in the mountains, but some good rain in the valleys. December has been very dry.
- 209.240.198.61 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:27:57 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Margaret, sorry that the Chiefs did not get in. They really missed Priest Holmes. I have received some information on several of your family branches. Are you interested in an updated family file?
- 205.188.209.69 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:28:15 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: Wish I knew how I got this blamed spasm. Guess I will goto the doctor. Wonder what my oma would have done for spasms?? Her home remedies really worked. If I could find slivovitz, I'd rub it on and drink some. Be cured in the AM.
- 66.140.92.214 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:28:18 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Trix, the Vikings ended on a good note. They still need help on defense but the offense is good enough as long as they limit the penalties and turnovers.
- 205.188.208.10 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:29:07 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Have no Gottscheer news! Have worked with a lady who has ancestors in Adelsberg, Austria. She lives in Kodiak, Alaska.
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:29:35 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Jim: I'm always interested in Jonke family tidbits. My cousin, Pete Jonke, in Pensacola is the family-tree builder. He loves any and all information on our clan. Thank you so much for asking.
- 66.140.92.214 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:29:56 (UTC)

Irene:
My goodness! We had 21 inches of snow on Christmas day. 4 inches per hour. I understand we made the national news in Albany NY. My neighbors mother had the nicest thought. She said the blizzard was God's way of telling us to slow down and spend Christmas with the nuclear family. There was not way anyone was going anywhere so we might as well relax and enjoy the precious moments with our immediate families.
- 24.29.68.79 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:29:59 (UTC)

Hans:
Es ist ruhig gewesen, wo ich bin. Schnee fiel mehrmals seit demletzten Mal, das wir sprachen. Ich konnte die Person gesehen haben, die Sie "Santa Claus", der nahe meinem Haus letzte Dienstag Nacht überschreitet.
- 152.163.188.68 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:30:11 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Margaret, alcohol on the skin is much the same as putting a mentholated rub on it. It soothes and provides topical relief. I guess that is why slivovitz worked.
- 205.188.208.6 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:30:34 (UTC)

Irene:
Dr. Jim, Could you look in your database and find what information you have on the Kresse family. You can send me a personal email at your convenience. It would be much appreciated.
- 24.29.68.79 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:31:45 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Must log off. Have a super new year. Be careful. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund
- 66.140.92.214 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:31:47 (UTC)

Hans:
Ich habe Familie gehabt, das vom Gottschee Bereich kommen.
- 152.163.188.1 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:32:25 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Margaret, I have been in contact with Peter in the past few months. Perhaps I will email it to both of you. The additional information was given to me by a wonderful woman who was very generous in sharing her hard work.
- 205.188.209.173 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:32:28 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Irene, please email me the specific Kresse names you are interested in. I will see what I have.
- 205.188.209.106 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:33:24 (UTC)

Russell:
Good night Margaret.
- 152.163.189.205 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:33:43 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hans, können Sie uns die Nachnamen Ihrer Vorfahren und die Dörfer mitteilen?
- 205.188.209.101 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:34:45 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Jim,
Thanks for the nice family picture. Enjoyed the Christmas greeting.
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:34:55 (UTC)

Trix:
Ridy - Tell me what is a Schwamm? (Mushroom?). It was the thing that is lit on New Years Day in Gottschee and one or more youngsters ran from house to house in the villages spreading the smoke? Might anyone know the exactly details of this tradition?
- 209.240.245.174 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:35:20 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Margaret, Gute Nacht und Frohes Neues Jahr!!
- 205.188.209.102 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:35:57 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
John, the family picture was ours but the season's greetings was initially sent to me by Marilu. I thought it was great and sent it on to my Gottscheer friends.
- 205.188.208.138 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:37:04 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Jim,
Did you get much snow from the snow storms that hit the Northeast?
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:37:56 (UTC)

Ridy:
Schwamm is the German word for mushroom, Trix, but I'm not familiar with that tradition. Are you sure you're not confusing it with the lump of burning coal which was distributed to each house at Easter?
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:39:10 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
about six inches which doesn't bother me in the slightest. Having gone to school in Rochester, New York, I am used to more inches and more storms. It was enough to keep people off the road. I really enjoyed the white Christmas.
- 205.188.208.72 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:39:38 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Jim,
Have you done much research lately?
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:40:30 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Can anyone email me Margaret's email address? It has been a while since I used it.
- 205.188.208.41 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:41:05 (UTC)

Ridy:
Trix - I wonder if it would have been those hard wild mushrooms which grow on some tree stumps? They'd probably smoke a lot...
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:41:43 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
John, I am picking up information here and there as I share files with others. Mike Stiene in New York, Michael Verderber in Germany, and Ruth Kraker Tramposch in the US have been keeping me busy with lots of information.
- 205.188.208.41 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:42:23 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Have a nice evening everyone! I've got to go.
- 209.240.198.61 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:42:59 (UTC)

Russell:
.
- 152.163.188.38 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:43:08 (UTC)

Russell:
whoops!
- 152.163.188.167 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:43:38 (UTC)

Irene:
Jim, I changed computers and lost your email address, so you will have to email me. My grandmother's name was Maria Kresse. She married Franz Eisenzopf. She was the only girl amoung seven or eight brothers. The two brothers' names that I know are Mathias and Alois. Her father's name was Johann. I figure if any of the offspring of her seven brothers have done any research it would be the same as mine.
- 24.29.68.79 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:43:56 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Sounds good Jim! Haven't had as many requests for Ebental info. So a lot of the publications have helped everyone. Will talk to you later some time.
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:44:07 (UTC)

Russell:
My Eisenzophs were a Josepf Eisenzopf who married a Marie Agnese. Their children were Joseph, Otto, James, John, William, Jasper and Eda.
- 152.163.189.199 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:49:33 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Irene, will see what I have.
- 205.188.209.76 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:50:45 (UTC)

Irene:
Jim, Thank you but what info do you have on Kresse?
- 24.29.68.79 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:51:20 (UTC)

Trix:
Irene, from what area would Kresse have come from? I communicate with Emil Kresse, whose grandmother was a Gottscheerin and who lives in Grafenfeld by the City of Gottschee.
- 209.240.245.174 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:53:05 (UTC)

Trix:
Ridy, I have been collecting Christmas customs in Gottschee. I need to clarify the part that I discussed previously and will do so.
- 209.240.245.174 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 02:54:32 (UTC)

Joanie:
Why do I always miss the fun? I guess I'll have to try next week...
- 152.163.189.71 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:00:41 (UTC)

Ridy:
Trix - just checked in the latest issue of the Gottscheer Gedenkstätte - it contains a story "Weihnachten in der Heimat Gottschee" -- it doesn't mention the smoking mushroom, but a couple of other customs I wasn't aware of - like the villagers going to midnight mass in a procession, and carrying lit torches for the entrance into church. Sounds beautifuil!
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:01:18 (UTC)

Ridy:
You haven't missed the fun, Joannie! Is your Oma there with you? I'd love to say "Hi" to her too....
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:02:16 (UTC)

Irene:
Dr. Jim. My grandmother, Maria Kresse was born in Ort, which I understand was a very tiny town. From what I understand Ort was not far from the city Gottschee. The surname Kresse goes back at least to the 1600s in Gottschee. I think my grandmother may have had a brother Emil who lived in Klagenfort Austria.
- 24.29.68.79 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:03:04 (UTC)

Irene:
Ridy, What is the Gottscheer Gedenkstätte?

- 24.29.68.79 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:06:34 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Irene, I emailed you some information about the Orts of #14.
- 205.188.209.41 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:09:00 (UTC)

Trix:
Thanks Ridy. Agree, the procession into the church would be sooooo emotional for me. I still dream of a time when I can spend Christmas in Gottschee. My own, personal memories are almost none - I only remember the big orange and big round of figs that my father brought from Macedonia where he worked. I think I may remember a tree but am not certain. I am told we always had one. It just seems so long ago but come to think of it IT WAS. Darn it anyway.
- 209.240.245.174 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:09:04 (UTC)

Ridy:
The Gottscheer Gedenkstätte is the Gottscheer Memorial Chapel which was erected in Graz in the late 1960s. They also have a publication which comes out about every other month. It's in German, and contains some stories and news about Gottscheers.
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:10:00 (UTC)

Trix:
Did anyone order the Gottscheer Gedenkstätte Kalender for 2003 yet? It is another impressive publication. I think this must be either the 3rd or 4th one. Nice addition to our libraries and very reasonable too. Perhaps around $15.00 including postage from Austria.
- 209.240.245.174 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:10:54 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
There was a Johann Kresse born abt 1876 from Ort who came over to the US in 1903. I don't know if he stayed or went back. He could have been a relative. He came over to see cousins named Stiblei. Does that ring any bells?
- 205.188.209.7 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:11:40 (UTC)

Irene:
Dr. Jim, Thank you.

Ridy How does one subscribe to the newsletter?
- 24.29.68.79 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:11:59 (UTC)

Ridy:
I received it from Arnold Rom's cousin in Vienna. It's beautiful and has a lot of information about Gottschee.
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:12:58 (UTC)

Ridy:
Trix - I just checked and the calendar is $10 US or $16 CDN

Irene - Let me check for you.......
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:15:22 (UTC)

Trix:
Irene - you join their organization, just like the GHGA. They have a membership fee which includes the newpaper. I am pretty sure they have a representative in the NY area that takes care of the subscriptions. I sent mine through my friend in Florida. Ridy, can you look for the contact in NY? I know they are in Toronto and Kitchener too.
- 209.240.245.174 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:15:56 (UTC)

Irene:
Dr. Jim, No it doesn't. I do know that there was a Kresse who was born in the US, (somewhere in the midwest I believe) who went back to Vienna and became the deputy mayor of Vienna in the 1930s. When the Nazi's came to power he went back to the US. Family legend has it that he was a family member.
- 24.29.68.79 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:20:15 (UTC)

Irene:
Thank you all. I'm turning back into a pumpkin. (Although in the Cinderella story the pumpkin was a carriage. oh well). I'm gong to say good night. I would like more info concerning the organizations mentioned.

Thank you all again.
- 24.29.68.79 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:24:52 (UTC)

Trix:
Irene - you mentioned a Shiblai ?. I think there is a family by that name in the Gottscheer organization in Cleveland. May not have the right spelling but they sound close enough.
- 209.240.245.174 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:25:10 (UTC)

Trix:
Good Night from Minnesota too. Have a MARVELOUS New Year everyone.
- 209.240.245.174 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:26:01 (UTC)

Ridy:
Gute Nacht, Alle ~

- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:27:26 (UTC)

Ridy:
Gottscheer Memorial Chapel INC.
5915 Menahan St,
Ridgewood, NY 11385

The above is the address given on the back of the Gottscheer Gedenkstätte publication. I am assuming you could get information regarding membership from there.
- 64.229.238.225 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:33:31 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Good night to all. Have a Happy New Year!!!
- 205.188.208.140 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 03:33:52 (UTC)

Jody Elmer:
Trix:
As always I'm "tuning in" after everyone is gone....but, you mentioned an orange. Growing up, we always got an orange in the toe of our stockings. I don't know why really and wonder if it was a Gottscheer tradition? An orange may have been a luxury or a special treat at some place or time, but to me, in the '50s, surrounded by orange groves, it wasn't such a big deal....still, it was always there.
- 12.83.107.218 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 04:03:10 (UTC)

Jody Elmer:
Good night, Happy New Year, and thanks to all of you who were such good helpful friends in 2002! I wish you all health and happiness in 2003.
- 12.83.107.218 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 04:04:34 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Good Nite everyone-Happy and Blessed New Year to you all.Sound of music is over-Sorry I missed you all...Again a safe and happy new year to you all...Adie & Paul
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 04:24:58 (UTC)

rrkren@aol.com:
Hi, just starting my genealogy on the Kren #6 from Koflern. Also have Perz, Michitsch and Puttre in "our" family. Can anyone give me some direction? They lived in Middle Village and Ridgewood, NY. We're in Idaho now. Thanks Rhonda Kren
- 152.163.189.198 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 05:16:51 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Paul: Did you know a Ludwig and Sophia Kump that lived on Floyd St. at one time? They are my only link to a Maria Peschel that came to New York.
- 64.12.96.9 - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 05:44:28 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Marilu. The Kumps that I knew lived in Glendale, Queens, N.Y. His name was John and worked for Koehler as a machinist. They also had a summer house on a couple acres of land in Huntington-Suffolk County in N.Y. on Long Island- there were three houses in a row with the same amount of property- The Kumps, the Rabuses(My Sister and Brother-in-law) and the Staudachers George and fanny- Fanny was John Rabuse sister.....Sorry=that is all i know...
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 01:14:10 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Rhonda, There was a Michitsch family that owned a Bar and restaurant in Ridgewood, bordering Middle village..I will be talking to My cousin frank jaklitsch who is in Florida just now..He may know something about Perz and Puttre. If my sister-in-law Emma Kren was still with us I am sure she would be a big help-Emma was my wifes' sister and married to Alois Kren, who owned a butcher shop in Maspeth Queens..
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 01:21:34 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Rhonda: John Kumps wife was Rose and she also was John Rabuse sister...
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 01:40:00 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Well I'm sorry I missed last nights chat. It was interestion reading it. Boy it sure is cold here. Quite a change in the weather. I was enjoying the -2 degrees before. Hope everyone has a safe and wonderful New Years.
- 206.172.22.19 - Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 05:15:57 (UTC)

Gerhard:
Wünsche Euch ein gesundes Neues Jahr,
mit lieben Grüßen Gerhard
- 62.218.2.99 - Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 13:14:09 (UTC)

Hans:
Glückliches neues Jahr zu Ihnen und zu Ihrer Familie!
- 205.188.209.16 - Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 15:36:42 (UTC)

Irene:
Happy New Year to all the wonderful people on the Plaluderzimmer.
- 24.29.68.79 - Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 16:25:08 (UTC)

Trix:
HAPPY NEW YEAR to all who visit the Plauderzimmer. May 2003 be filled with love, joy, peace and laughter.

Alles, alles Gute im Neuen Jahr zu allen Gottscheer die das Plauderzimmer besuchen. Herzliche Grüße aus Minnesota.

Geboren war ich in der Moschnitze.
- 209.240.245.168 - Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 17:03:00 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Trix-I am taking one minute from a very busy day to say "You said it all and thank you very much." HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE......
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 19:38:21 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Paul. Any time you take moment from a very busy day to acknowledge my note IT BRINGS SUNSHINE TO MY DAY. Danke.
- 209.240.245.99 - Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 20:10:33 (UTC)

FRIDRICH:
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE..andALL THE GOTTSCHERS fredrich from rusbach by moschnizen
- 68.161.91.101 - Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 23:00:24 (UTC)

FRIDRICH:
QUNS NEW YORK NY.HAPPY NEW YEAR.
- 68.161.91.101 - Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 23:08:37 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Happy New Year everyone!
- 152.163.188.69 - Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 23:10:10 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Fridrich. Thanks for your message. Always good to hear from another Gottscheer from the Moschnitze. I, too, come f rom that area. Would appreciate you writing to me at wyants@mlecmn.net. Danke!!!
- 209.240.237.135 - Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 00:43:22 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Only 3 hours left in Toronto before 2002 is history. For the New Year, 2003, I wish all my Gottscheer friends and family, and all the Gottscheer wanna-bes, a HAPPY, HEALTHY, PEACEFUL AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR!
As Robert Burns put it so well. . . .
"Should auld acquaintance be forgot, and never brought to mind? Should auld acquaintance be forgot and auld lang syne? For auld lang syne, my dear, for auld lang syne, we'll tak a cup o' kindness yet for auld lang syne."
EIN PROSIT NEU JAHR!
- 64.229.238.225 - Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 02:08:35 (UTC)

Marie Kump:
Wishing all the Gottscheers a healthy and happy 2003.
- 152.163.189.103 - Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 02:30:40 (UTC)

Robert Burns:
"sollte auld Bekanntschaft sein vergaß, und geholt nie zum Verstand?
Sollten auld Bekanntschaft sein vergaßen und auld lang syne? Für
auld lang syne mein liebes, für auld lang syne, wir Willetak ein
Schale O ' Freundlichkeit dennoch für auld lang syne."
- 152.163.188.34 - Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 06:17:30 (UTC)

Paul B.:
I am a GBM/Gottscheer By Marriage-So a very very Happy-Healthy-Pleasant-Prosperous New year to you all....
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 06:49:58 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
ä Ä ö ÿ ü Ü ß Hey guys, look what I learned how to do with my laptop computer! They say you are never too old to learn! lololol
- 205.188.209.20 - Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 19:22:04 (UTC)

Trix`:
Hey, I say BRAVO, BRAVO and once more BRAVO. Way to go. The Umlauts, with the exception of the y look beautiful. Is there a y Umlaut? If there is, I never learned it.
- 216.251.169.7 - Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 21:42:17 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hey Trix & Marilu--You Girls are getting too smart for me. i am going to take a break and eat some left over new years eve goodies to feed my old and tired brain..Cheers!
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 21:52:35 (UTC)

Trix:
No, no Paul, no sympathy from here. No way do you have an "old" brain - a bit tired perhaps but never old. I say Go and nourish the soul and enjoy some for me too. Just what would those goodies be Paul?
- 216.251.169.7 - Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 22:09:09 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hope you all had a chance to watch the New Year's Day concert from Vienna on PBS this evening. A real feast for the ears and the eyes. Not enough of Graz, but the little there was brought back beautiful old memories for me. How well I remember visiting Schloß Eggenberg and attending a concert there! When Nicholas Harnancourt turned to wish the audience "ein gesegnetes und friedliches Neues Jahr" (delivered in his beautiful, soft, Grazer accent) I wanted to stand up and cheer -- instead I cried, because there seems to be little chance his wish for a blesses and peaceful New Year will be heard and granted. Graz, by the way, has been designated the Kulturstadt of Europe this year - hence the reason for the visit of the Kirov Ballet there.
- 64.229.238.225 - Thursday, January 02, 2003 at 02:47:27 (UTC)

Trix:
Agree Ridy it was a wonderful way to spent 90 minutes. Talk about sound, clarity, discipline and scenery. Yes, I enjoyed Graz too. Visited the city the last time in 1996. Still have my huge Stein that we bought there.
- 209.240.245.153 - Thursday, January 02, 2003 at 03:50:43 (UTC)

Frank Schmuck:
I read in an old gottscheer zeitung that a August Sterbetz I wonder if this could be Augusta Sterbentz from mitterdorf by tschermoschnitzthis lady could be my tauf sponser . she had two brothers Julius and Franz.
- 66.119.174.56 - Thursday, January 02, 2003 at 04:13:17 (UTC)

Werner Lackner:
Wuensche alle ein Prosit Neu Jahr.
Werner von Nesseltal.
- 198.211.142.107 - Thursday, January 02, 2003 at 05:03:17 (UTC)

Trix:
Die Gottscheer von Nord Amerika wünschen auch Dir, Werner, ein gutes Neues Jahr. Wo wohnst Du? Ich bin in Minnesota aber geboren in der Moschnitze, Gottschee.
- 209.240.245.153 - Thursday, January 02, 2003 at 05:24:45 (UTC)

Paul B.:
To answer your question Trix--Besides a great Rib roast dinner with all the trimmings,the goodie goodies were: A delicious fruit stollen-I love it warm from the toaster oven- A tray of Italian cookies-An Italian grain pie-assorted pastries-Great coffee with Kaluah and Cream-Ice cream and assorted nuts. And I was nuts to eat them all! But my stomach was good to me this time, Thank God..
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, January 02, 2003 at 21:10:50 (UTC)

pat :
hi trix, happy and healthy new year, havn't spoken to u in awhile, just found out that my sister wwho lives in ridgewood queens, went to the gottshee hall tuesday night she had a nice time, also went on a atlantic city trip with the gottscheer and another planned for this month...
- 63.188.177.233 - Friday, January 03, 2003 at 02:20:09 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hi Pat-I don't know you, but you just brought back some great memories when you mentioned the ridgewood Gottscheer Hall.My wife Adeline jaklitsch and I lived there in Glendale and Ridgewood for many years.Listened to Bud Gramer when he was just a kid getting started.Just had one of his old tapes playing last week and I reminesced of the good old days...
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, January 03, 2003 at 02:43:11 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Pat. So nice to hear from you again. I hope you survived the year ok and hope that 2003 will be very good to you and your daughter.

Happy New Year my friend and God Bless. Go with your sister to the Gottscheer Hall sometime. They seem to have a lot of fun there.
- 209.240.237.129 - Friday, January 03, 2003 at 03:09:13 (UTC)

Werner:
Trix, ich wohne in New York in der naehe von Poughkeepsie. Wohnte frueher in Ridgewood.
- 206.216.118.214 - Friday, January 03, 2003 at 22:41:42 (UTC)

Trix:
Grüß Dich Werner. Bist Du ein Gottscheer. Von welcher Gegend?
- 209.240.237.150 - Saturday, January 04, 2003 at 04:46:58 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
A belated Happy New Year to the chatroom crowd. Welcome on board, Werner. I grew up on Gates Avenue in the Bushwick section just south of Ridgewood.
- 64.12.96.169 - Saturday, January 04, 2003 at 14:11:31 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy week end everyone......Jim, You started the memory bank going wild when you mentioned Gates Ave..Someday I will have to tell you about an experience I had on gates Ave---way back in 1942!
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, January 04, 2003 at 19:22:18 (UTC)

Pat:
Trix, thanks for getting back to me, good to hear from you, i also hope that 2003 i s good for me and my daughter, and that u have a happy and healthy new year
- 65.128.204.132 - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 01:18:23 (UTC)

Pat:
I also know of gates avenue, but didn't hang out there
- 65.128.204.132 - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 01:19:41 (UTC)

Pat:
anyone familiar with knickerbocker avenue, i use to go shopping there alot, and myrtle avenue, oh what nice they had don't know about now
- 65.128.204.132 - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 01:20:51 (UTC)

Pat:
think my siter goes to a nice german bakery in ridgewood, don't know the name of it
- 65.128.204.132 - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 01:21:19 (UTC)

Pat:
my grandmother use to live on onderdunk avenue
- 65.128.204.132 - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 01:22:05 (UTC)

Werner:
Jim- lived on Onderdonk Ave. and Harman ST. Delivered the Brooklyn Eagle on and around Bushwick Ave as a teenager.
Trix- was born in Nesseltal, Gottschee. Were you born in Gottschee?
- 206.216.192.55 - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 03:56:49 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Werner: My Father-In-Law ran a bar, corner of Onderdonk and Palmetto..... Pay, I'm afraid that Myrtle Ave is not the Myrtle Ave we used to know, regrettably...
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 04:30:14 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Sorry Pat, I wrote Pay instead of Pat
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 04:31:13 (UTC)

Trix:
Good to meet you Werner. I was born in 1936 near Tschermoschnitz (eastern region of the former Gottschee). I have been to Nesseltal numerous times and since 1984 have made 6 trips to Gottschee. God willing will do more. I have in Minnesota since April 1952. How about you?
- 209.240.237.129 - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 04:47:44 (UTC)

pat:
paul: i know that myrtle avenue is not what it use to be, my one sister lives on palmetto street, and my other sister lives on harmon street..they want me to visit so bad...but really am afraid to go, maybe if i went with someone and came back the same night wouldn't be so bad, but by myself and my daughter don't think so....
- 65.128.204.6 - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 14:30:17 (UTC)

pat:
Jim, i had freinds on bushwick avenue,never really hung out with them, can imagine what bushwick avenue looks like now, i havn't been to the old neighborhood of mine, noll street between wilson and central avenue since 1988, as that is when my mom and dad past....don't think i want to go there now,
- 65.128.204.6 - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 14:33:17 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Pat, I understand your feelings..to visit or not to visit-it is a tough decision. To visit in numbers, perhaps is a better idea, but nonetheless scary..It is difficult for those of us who do not live there anymore, but to those who choose to stay there for whatever the reason, it is still home.We tried to get my wifes sister away from Putnam Ave for a long time, and it was impossible to do so. The change in neighborhoods come gradually, and for those who choose to stay in spite of the change is understandable, somewhat anyway. Just a tough call...
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 19:31:31 (UTC)

Paul B.:
On a happier note-good Sunday to you all-hope to be on the PZ tonite if i get back early enough-ifnot, I will read all the chats and pretend I am there with you all..By the way, has anyone heard from Ridy in the past few days? I know there is a life before the Plauderzimmer, but I always miss who is not on; even when I have not been on and read the nites chats. I guess the Plauderzimmer becomes part of our life in more ways than one. Thanks to Helmuth...
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 19:46:39 (UTC)

Jim:
Pat, the Bushwick section hit on very hard times as early as thirty years ago. Bushwick Avenue was still maintained in sections when other areas went downhill fast. I don't know what it is like now but probably not a safe place. The Ridgewood area north of the "el" has also changed but not as radically. The brownstone and brick buildings have fared well. The ethnic balance has also changed with a new wave of immigrants bringing their culture and stores. Myrtle Avenue nearer to Brooklyn is still a busy shopping area but you will not find the German merchants from years ago. I don't think visiting in that area is a dangerous thing. Nearer to Forest Avenue and Fresh Pond, you can still find some bakeries and at least two good German delicatessens/butcher shops.
- 205.188.209.14 - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 23:26:46 (UTC)

Russell:
From what I remember working in the neighborhood, German stores are still in the Ridgewood area. I'd say the area would be from Myrtle/Wychoff to Fresh Pond. North to Metropolitian. Then more or less in a straight line back to Wychoff. The area is changing. But alot of pockets of German shops and stores still there. Not so much nearer to Brooklyn. But as Jim said around Fresh Pond and Forest.

What I should do is visit Archives in Manhattan and maybe find my Grandfather Eisenzopf.
- 64.12.97.10 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 00:10:06 (UTC)

Pat:
Jim, i use to love it near forest avenue and fresh pond road my daughters baby doctor was mr. weiss still remember his name believe he was on fresh pond road. yes some bakeries are left so my sister tells me, she just told me that her and my niece are going to a dance at the gottshee hall soon...wish i could go with them someday, told her that i correspond in this room, she doesn't have a computer , wish she did she would find this so very interesting
- 65.128.204.110 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 00:13:52 (UTC)

pat:
Jim, then she would really appreciate the gottchee hall
- 65.128.204.110 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 00:27:45 (UTC)

Jim:
Pat, I think you should go in someday and pay a visit to the sisters as well as the hall.
- 205.188.209.137 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 01:37:22 (UTC)

Jim:
Werner, I checked some information that I have and it includes a family file/tree for you and a good number of your ancestral branches. It is drawn from a number of sources including work done by the GHGA (& Kate Pruente) and Holly Droese. Both have sites online. If you are interested in the file, just email me at DocH301454@aol.com. No charge; just a sharing of information between Gottscheers.
- 205.188.209.167 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 01:55:32 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all had a good week. Too warm in KCMO. Almost 60. Neighbors are watering trees and house foundations. Drought is very serious. Glad I'm not with my Tante Leni in Mahopac, NY. They are drowning in snow.
- 66.140.93.145 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 02:15:30 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Talk of Onderdonk Ave. brings back memories of my aunt Frieda Jonke Willand and my oma, Rosalia Jonke who lived at 719 Seneca Ave. (Hope I got the number right) Anyway, it was Seneca Ave. Much change in that area.
- 66.140.93.145 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 02:20:12 (UTC)

Jim:
Margaret, send some of the warm weather this way. It seems we are getting snow every other day. Nothing terrible but enough to make it slippery. The Giants joined the Chiefs, the Vikings, and the Cowboys in the line of vacationers. Terrible ending.
- 205.188.209.141 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 02:20:36 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Had email from cousin, Pete Yonke,in Pensacola. He said you sent him some valuable information for our family tree. Thank you so much. Pete has made great plans for a Jonke treffan this 4th of July at the Lake of the Ozarks.
- 66.140.93.145 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 02:21:59 (UTC)

Jim:
Margaret, please send a "your welcome" to your cousin and ask him if he would send any additions or corrections my way. I would appreciate it a great deal.
- 205.188.209.112 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 02:24:54 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Glad to oblige. Pete is an absolute fanatic on this family tree thing. Glad we have one dedicated relative to dig up our ancestors.
- 66.140.93.145 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 02:26:07 (UTC)

Jim:
There used to be a wonderful German butcher on the corner of Gates and, I believe, Seneca. It was our primary place for cold cuts and wurst. My younger brother and I would walk there with our order. The smells were wonderful and they would invariably give each of us a nice slice of bologna. My mouth waters just thinking about it.
- 205.188.208.10 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 02:26:45 (UTC)

Jim:
Genealogy can certainly be a time consuming but enjoyable hobby.
- 205.188.209.176 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 02:27:40 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Jim:
Am going to call my cousins Helmut and Ilse Stalzer and check on the German butcher shop you mentioned on Gates and Seneca. I'm sure that was near their old neighborhood.
- 66.140.93.145 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 02:31:56 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Sorry to log off. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund. Alles gute.
- 66.140.93.145 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 02:34:46 (UTC)

Jim:
Margaret, have a good evening.
- 205.188.208.140 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 02:41:40 (UTC)

Nancy:
Good evening everyone. The butcher shop, on the corner of Gates and Seneca, Jobst and Ebbinghaus, is no longer there. The bake shop is named Rudy's and is still on Seneca Avenue, near Myrtle Ave. Delicious baked goods.
- 64.12.97.7 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 02:49:15 (UTC)

Jim:
Looks like a slow night in the chatroom. Will sign off for now. May check back in later.
- 205.188.209.41 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 02:49:20 (UTC)

Nancy:
I believe Jobst and Ebbinghaus used to have two stuffed deer in their front window display.
- 64.12.96.11 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 02:52:27 (UTC)

Jim:
Nancy, I believe that is the one. Don't remember the deer but do remember the cleanliness, the sawdust, and the aromas!!!
- 205.188.208.172 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 03:00:32 (UTC)

Nancy:
good night all
- 64.12.96.136 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 03:00:46 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good evening. Anyone still around. Have grandkids spending the night, and I just got them read to, and tucked in.
- 205.188.208.72 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 03:01:07 (UTC)

Jim:
Nancy, have a good evening.
- 205.188.208.69 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 03:05:15 (UTC)

Jim:
Hello, Marilu. Probably won't stay on too much longer. How are you doing? I may have to go looking for a nice piece of bologna after thinking about Jobst & Ebbinghaus.
- 205.188.208.171 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 03:06:11 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim. Everyone is fine here. Has been a busy weekend. My oldest granddaughter was here and we worked on Photo albums all weekend. It was fun.
- 205.188.209.167 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 03:07:56 (UTC)

Jim:
I have two or three rolls waiting to be picked up and one more that is almost finished. After they are all developed, I will get five rolls together and put them in the album.
- 205.188.209.171 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 03:10:17 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We are redoing the old albums, and putting them in acid free books, jounrnaling, and decorating the pages. She is coming back again in a month or so for another session.
- 205.188.209.82 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 03:12:50 (UTC)

Jim:
I did not have many pictures of my father's side but I went over to a cousin's house a couple of years back with my macro lens and took pictures of their pictures. They came out very well. In fact, some of them came out better because I could compose them and crop out bad areas.
- 205.188.209.48 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 03:18:57 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, the "old" ones we are working on right now are of her. I have been working on all the old old of the family ones for about 5 years now. that goes along with the genealogy books I am working on.
- 205.188.208.166 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 03:22:17 (UTC)

Jim:
Marilu, have a good night and good week.
- 205.188.209.16 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 03:22:49 (UTC)

Jim:
Good luck with the photo albums.
- 205.188.208.107 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 03:23:16 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night Jim.
- 205.188.208.6 - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 03:23:47 (UTC)

Paul B.:
It is 11:30 P.M. in N.Y. ==almost tomorrow---Have a great weekend everyone....
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, January 11, 2003 at 04:35:56 (UTC)

Russell:
Almost 9 pm on a sunday night. Anyone on yet?

- 64.12.96.170 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 01:52:23 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi Russell
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 01:53:18 (UTC)

Hans:
Hallo, sein jemand heute abend online?
- 64.12.96.45 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 01:54:53 (UTC)

Russell:
At least there is someone on tonight. Hello Sharon and Hans.
- 64.12.96.71 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 01:57:09 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hallo, Hans, Russell, and Sharon. Good evening!!
- 205.188.209.48 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 01:57:58 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hans, kamen Ihre Vorfahren aus Gottschee? Meins kamen vom Unterwarmberg-Pfarrbezirk.
- 205.188.208.43 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 01:59:50 (UTC)

Russell:
Good evening Jim. How cold is it by you? Going to 22 degrees tonight here.
- 64.12.96.8 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 01:59:51 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
The temperature should be about the same in New Jersey.
- 205.188.209.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:00:52 (UTC)

Hans:
Hallo, Von ich bin nicht sicher mehr, wo meine Familie kam. Alles, das ich weiß, ist, daß sie von einem deutschsprechenden Regionnorden von Italien kamen
- 64.12.97.7 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:02:45 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hans, können Sie mir Ihren Nachnamen mitteilen?
- 205.188.208.11 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:04:14 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Jim could you translate for me?
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:04:49 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Just asking if his ancestors came from Gottschee. Then I asked for his surname.
- 205.188.209.108 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:05:26 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi everyone from a very nippy Minnesota. Hope you are doing well and staying warm. Sharon, there is an interesting posting on the Kump Staudache Bulletin Board regarding Eisenzopfs from Hohenegg. You might be interested.

Tired tonight. Busy, busy weekend. Will check back from time to time.
- 209.240.245.144 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:06:14 (UTC)

Russell:
I think I'll sit back and try to read what's going on.
- 64.12.96.103 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:06:21 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, Trix. Don't send anymore cold weather to the east!!
- 205.188.208.6 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:07:07 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi Trix, which web site is it at?
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:07:11 (UTC)

Trix:
Hans seems to think his ancestors may be from a region in northern Italy. We have gotten into that before, haven't we? Anybody remember? Wasn't the guy who lived in southern Switzerland also from the German speaking region of Italy?
- 209.240.245.144 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:07:41 (UTC)

Russell:
Trix, post the Kump Staudacke Board, I have Eisenzopf in my background.
- 64.12.96.9 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:07:43 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Don't be taken in by my German. I can read Hans's messages fairly easily but I use a program to answer. It would take me too long to formulate the sentences myself.
- 205.188.209.144 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:08:11 (UTC)

Trix:
Sharon, let me see if I can paste it here.
- 209.240.245.144 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:08:17 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Greetings from drought-stricken KCMO. 50 plus days without precipitation. Weaatherman says we MIGHT see some snow next week. Now everyone will tell me about the mountains of snow they have in their yards. Wish we had some.
- 66.140.92.216 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:08:58 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Not sure about the region. Did we ever get the surname? That should help us figure out if there is a link to Gottschee.
- 205.188.209.78 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:09:30 (UTC)

Trix:
Sharon:
I sent it to you via e=mail.

- 209.240.245.144 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:10:03 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hi, Margaret. We have just officially ended our drought in New Jersey. Too many people and the water supply is getting worse as more construction goes in.
- 205.188.209.74 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:10:41 (UTC)

Trix:
TRAMPOSH (TRAMPOSCH) FAMILY

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Posted by Gregg Lickteig on January 12, 2003 at 07:07:56:

My mother's maiden name is Mary Jane Tramposh. Her father is (Carl Tramposh)Karl Tramposch and her grandfather is Mathias Tramposch. Some of the Tramposches took the "C" out of their name after coming to the United States; others didn't. The dates for Mathias and his wife Magdalena Eisenzoph birth and death are posted all over the internet incorrectly. I don't know where the info came from but it is entirely wrong. Shelly Tramposh questioned this on the internet at one time I saw, and I think she's the only one who has caught this. I am absolutely positive about the following: Mathias Tramposch b.2-1-1858 in Hohenegg 1, Austria d.1918 in Kansas City, Kansas. Magdalena b.3-13-1852 in Hohenegg 6, Austria d.1919 in Kansas City, Kansas. They are both buried at a cemetery in Kansas City, Kansas at the corner of 38th & Parallel, Wyandotte County. They both arrived at Ellis Island in January 1904 along with two sons (one's my grandfather) and a nephew also. I have other info on the Tramposhes regardless of how you spell it...email me gklighthouse@comcast.net

- 209.240.245.144 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:11:44 (UTC)

Russell:
I think Hans was here a while ago saying he lives in Switzerland and his family came from Gottschee. It was a while ago.
- 64.12.96.230 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:11:48 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Thanks Trix. I have this information and Magdalena is my GG Aunt.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:17:02 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Trix, I sent Gregg an email. I would like him to check a family file for me. There is a tie in with the Kansas Loschkes at some level.
- 205.188.208.137 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:18:16 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Trix: Thank you for the forewards. I appreciate them,but don't have time to answer. Keep them coming. I enjoy them.
- 66.140.92.216 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:19:04 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Jim: When you say "Kansas Loschkes" I think of my "near aunt" Frieda Loschke who lived in KC, but moved to NY. She had one son, Frank. Could that be any relation to the people you were discussing??
- 66.140.92.216 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:21:01 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Russell Have you gotten any new info on Eisenzopfs?
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:23:38 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I am sure there is a tie in somewhere but I don't have it. He is related very closely to Kate Loschke Pruente.
- 205.188.208.137 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:25:44 (UTC)

Russell:
I haven't gotten anything new about Eisenzopfs. Lately with Christmas, I haven't been looking.
- 64.12.96.203 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:28:29 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Not much happening on the plauderzimmer tonight. Will tell all auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.92.216 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:29:44 (UTC)

Russell:
It's probably a good night for turning up the fireplace. Turn down the lights and enjoy a cup of hot chocolate.
- 64.12.96.78 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:31:34 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hi y'all -
Just fixed my hot chocolate with a shot of Kahlua in it, Russell.... lovely temptation and the only downside are the calories.
- 64.229.237.42 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:35:50 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi Ridy

- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:36:16 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hi Sharon!
How's the skiing up there?
- 64.229.237.42 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:37:16 (UTC)

Russell:
With me I find that hot chocolates are too sweet. With what has happened to me, I can't drink too many sweet things.
- 64.12.96.171 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:37:55 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
What snow?
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:38:43 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
We may have 8" of snow here
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:39:32 (UTC)

Russell:
Over by me there was a White Christmas. Not much else since.
- 64.12.96.78 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:40:03 (UTC)

Ridy:
You don't have any snow, Sharon? We could send you some this winter! It seems that every time I look outside, there are snowflakes drifting down. . . . Hate to be paying out all the insurance claims for accidents so far this winter -- must be some sort of record.
- 64.229.237.42 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:40:21 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hey! 8" is more than we have. I take it back -- you can't have any of ours, unless you take it all!
- 64.229.237.42 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:41:23 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Its been really cold here the last few days

- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:43:03 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, Ridy. No Kahlua but hot chocolate sounds good to me.
- 205.188.208.39 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:48:33 (UTC)

Ridy:
The trick is to melt some real, dark, bittersweet chocolate in hot milk (skim)-- e.g., Lindt or Belgian, and the .... my kind of sinful!
- 64.229.237.42 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:51:26 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hmmm, must have had too much Kahlua - my thoughts seem to have derailed there somewhere....
- 64.229.237.42 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:52:35 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Time to shut down for the night. Have a good week.

- 205.188.208.8 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:59:01 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Goodnight Jim
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 02:59:17 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Hello everyone
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:00:33 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hello Greg.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:00:47 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
It looks like we are related. Magdelena is my GGG Aunt.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:01:16 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Yes, and she is my great grandmother
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:01:51 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Are you related to a Frank Tramposch who lived in Toronto Canada?
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:03:32 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Jim questioned how I am related to Kate Pruente. I believe second cousin....she is my mom's (Mary Jane Tramposh) first cousin.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:04:00 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Kate has an Eisenzopf in her family tree
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:04:44 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
I am related to Frank, but several and I'm still sorting it all out
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:05:49 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Frank Tramposch was a friend of my Grandfather. I have the address but I believe the children now own the house and that Frank has passed on.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:07:18 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Kate Pruente dad is Leo Loschke and Leo's sister is Alvina Loschke. Alvina married Carl Tramposh (Karl Tramposch). Carl's mom is Magdalena Eisenzoph(f) from Hohenegg 6, Austria.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:09:52 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
My Family is from house #6. I can pass some info onto you if you like.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:11:22 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
That would be very helpful...thank you. Email me gklighthouse@comcast.net with anything!!
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:14:56 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Do you have any pictures of pass family members from the old country? I have some and I'm trying to figure some people out.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:18:46 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
My mother has one picture of Magdalena Eisenzoph(f). Honestly I am worthless on identifying anyone. I'd love to have a picture of Magdalena husband Mathias Tramposch though. They are my great grandparents.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:22:24 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
can you send my the picture through the internet, and I could go through the pictures here and see if I have anything? My email address is ownsadurango@yahoo.ca
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:24:57 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Yes I can send the picture. It will take a few days to obtain it and get it scanned but no problem.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:29:58 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
look forward to seeing it. I just sent some info to you.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:30:34 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Its not updated, I need to add some new info to it.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:31:22 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
The attachment didn't come thru right on what you sent me...can you try it again?
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:36:11 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I will try again.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:39:41 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Sharon what city are you living in?
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:41:49 (UTC)

Marilu :
Anyone still around tonite?
- 205.188.208.38 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:41:57 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Yes, I'm the new kid on the block.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:44:48 (UTC)

Marilu :
Hello Gregg Welcome. Where do you live?
- 205.188.208.43 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:45:55 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I live in Canada, small town on the border of Minnesota
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:46:14 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
I live in suburb of Kansas City.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:46:58 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Greg did it come thru now?
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:48:52 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
The weather is weird here. There has now been three quite sizeable snow storms come thru within 50 miles of Kansas City and yet we are bone dry in a drought.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:49:32 (UTC)

Marilu :
I was born in Minnesota, but live in Colorado now. Sharon, I am from Breckenridge,MN do you know where that is?
- 205.188.208.167 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:50:20 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
just south of fargo, 4-5 hour drive from the International Falls.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:53:04 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
its a quiet night on the chat line
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:55:34 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Sharon I received the attachment fine...thank you! I can fill in a lot from Mathias Tramposch's kids forward to now. Do you need or want this?
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:56:59 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
sure it would be great to read. I have been in touch with Ken Kropf from that list.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 03:58:52 (UTC)

Russell:
It has been a quiet night.
- 64.12.96.71 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:00:16 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
so far since I started my research I have found 3 cousins
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:02:17 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Has anybody seen the story of the Illinois Governor and the Death Row story. Wow!
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:03:17 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
did he pardon 4 people?
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:04:03 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
This mornings paper says he pardoned 167 people!
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:05:35 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
156 on death row and the rest in jail waiting hearings or sentencing.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:06:42 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
wow thats alot of pardons
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:06:50 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:

- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:09:07 (UTC)

Paul B:
"POARDON ME", It is late and I just came on...Have a great week everyone...
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:13:22 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi Paul
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:13:43 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Does anyone know who I can go to for information on the parents and/or siblings of Josef Tramposch(b.31-Jan 1824) and his wife Magdalena (Marie) Stimpfl (b.23-May 1822)
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:18:28 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Well its late time to call it a night. Goodnight all.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:18:49 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
You can try the microfilms at your local Latter Day Saints church.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:20:41 (UTC)

Franz Schmuck:
Whoever designed this page should cosider puting the rest button somewhere other than where it is at least 3 times I wrote to the chat room only to push the reset thinking it was the submitt than all is gone I dont feel like typing it all again especially when I am a 1 finger typer
- 66.119.174.164 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:22:34 (UTC)

Paul B:
Pardon me.I must be more tired than I thought..
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:24:12 (UTC)

Paul B:
Hi Sharon-How are you?
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:25:49 (UTC)

Franz Schmuck:
Whoever designed this page should consider puting the reset button somewhere other than where it is at, least 3 times I wrote to the chat room only to push the reset button thinking it was the submitt than all is gone than I dont feel like typing it all over again especially when I am a 1 finger typer
- 66.119.174.164 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:26:06 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
I'm still trying to understand this LDS thing. When I search records on their website do I get everything they have for a surname or is there much more they have on film but not on their internet site?? Anyone know.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:26:25 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I'm doing fine. It's really quiet in here tonight
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:26:41 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I order films and look up the infomation at there church. The web site is only info that people send in. You can find some info there but your best to order the films.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:28:07 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
but I warn you that its in German and its the old handwriting. I have a reference sheet that Kate sent me for understanding the letters.
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:29:12 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Goodnight
- 206.172.22.116 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:40:00 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Sharon thanks for this info. I am talking to Kate via email right now also. Both of you are very helpful. Too bad I know nothing of German.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 04:40:17 (UTC)

Irene:
Hi all. Sorry I couldn't join you last evening.I have a fun question. Does anyone have any friends or relatives who might be the youngest 100% blood Gottscheer? My cousin's son is 27 and both his parents are Gottscheers. Does anyone know someone else who is younger?
- 24.195.40.192 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 14:08:50 (UTC)

Ridy:
WOW! My first reaction, Irene, to your question was: Certainly!!! And then I started to think and came up - 0 -!! I came up with several 75% Gottscheers who are younger, but none who are 100% Gottscheer. But I'm still thinking... Intereting question!
- 64.229.237.42 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 14:44:38 (UTC)

Trix:
I agree with Ridy, WOW! My brother and his Gottscheer wife in Middle Village have a daughter who might be right around that age. Good, good question indeed. I hope we get lots of responses on this matter Irene.

How goes the typing? Good luck.

- 216.251.178.4 - Monday, January 13, 2003 at 19:22:27 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Trix---I have Gottscheer cousins in Middle village..Maybe your Brother knows them-Robert and Helen Jaklitsch?
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, January 14, 2003 at 05:04:44 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Paul. Greetings to you and Addie. I will ask my brother about your cousins. I know an Irma and Adolf Jacklitsch from that area. They are my cousins but are from the Moschnitze area. Have a good week and stay warm. Brrrrr here.
- 216.251.169.5 - Tuesday, January 14, 2003 at 05:17:42 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Does anyone like a picture of the church in Gottschee that is shown at a different view. I can email it to you. I was going through the old photographs and found it. Just let me know.
- 199.243.152.21 - Thursday, January 16, 2003 at 05:50:00 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I came across another photo of a building with the following words on it "LAVADERO LLUM RUCA" can anyone translate it.
- 199.243.152.21 - Thursday, January 16, 2003 at 06:06:31 (UTC)

Irene:
Sharon, This is a spanish phrase. The best I can do is
Lavadero = wash house
LLUM = light
Don't have a clue what "RUCA" means.

P.S. I wouldn't mind the picture of the church.
- 24.195.40.192 - Thursday, January 16, 2003 at 16:31:43 (UTC)

Trix:
Sharon - Thank you for the photo of the church in Gottschee. LOVE IT. Enjoy a good, good day.
- 209.240.245.137 - Thursday, January 16, 2003 at 17:54:20 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Am leaving this greeting early. Will be busy at 8:00. Hope all have a good week. Bleib gesund. Alles gute.
- 66.140.93.156 - Sunday, January 19, 2003 at 19:59:08 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Sharon: My brother, Louis Jonke, has a painting of the old church in Gottschee. It was painted from a photograph. My brother got the painting because he is a male Jonke. So far as I know, the church was destroyed long ago. All that remains are photographs, but the painting is lovely. My oma used to spend hours looking at it and remembering.
- 66.140.93.156 - Sunday, January 19, 2003 at 20:02:41 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy Sunday everyone...
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 19, 2003 at 20:22:26 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Margaret. Regarding your note to Sharon about the paining of the old church in Gottschee. Are you talking about the churchh in the City of Gottschee? I did not know that it was destroyed long ago. I would love to see a photo of what you have. Would that be possible? We will miss you tonight. Stay warm and enjoy the games.
- 216.251.169.3 - Sunday, January 19, 2003 at 21:14:34 (UTC)

Trix:
Hey Paul --- You are a bit early too. Not going to be around tonight? I hope you are. It is very nippy at Waukenabo with a strong north wind. But, sunny and little snow. My kind of winter.
- 216.251.169.3 - Sunday, January 19, 2003 at 21:15:30 (UTC)

Trix:
Greetings to one and all. Decided to enter the Plauderzimmer early myself, post this message and hope that you will all think about it and comment.

For some time now I have been thinking about the need to preserve the Gottscheer Dialect. By that I mean the spoken language, not just in printed form but orally recited and spoken. I have had a number of inquiries from individuals with Gottscheer connections who are not only interested in hearing Gottscheerisch spoken but would like to learn it.

HOW DO WE START this very, very important cultural preservation project?

Any and all ideas including your interest in perhaps being part of this undertaking are encouraged, appreciated and most welcomed.

To put it bluntly let me say this: Assuming you want to learn Gottscheerisch what would you be looking for?

= A tape with printout of what is being said?
= Just a printout (booklet form with pronounciation after each word)?
= Starting with the alphabet, going into phrases etc?
= Or???

Please think about and like I said any and all recommendatons will be appreciated and welcomed. DANKE!!!
- 216.251.169.30 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 00:44:53 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
hello, anyone around?
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:08:11 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Anyone around?
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:18:11 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
so far its just us
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:19:55 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
What area's are you working in Sharon? My ancestors come mostly from Ebental and Altlag Parishes.
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:20:49 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
Hohenegg area
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:21:08 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Is that in the Parish of Seele?
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:23:39 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
I not sure what parish its in.
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:24:11 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Did you grow up in the Gottscheer area's in Cleveland or New York or some other place?
- 209.240.198.61 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:25:38 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
I was born here in Canada
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:26:29 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
My Grandparents are from Hohenegg
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:26:51 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
So do you live in Toronto where Ridy lives?
- 209.240.198.60 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:27:06 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
I grew up in Wyoming. My gottscheer relatives settled in many different areas.
- 209.240.198.61 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:27:46 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
I live a long ways from Ridy
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:28:00 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Do you know when your family came to Canada?
My Grandfather came to the US in 19ll. He had uncles who came just before the turn of the 20th Century.
- 209.240.198.60 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:29:20 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
Grandpa came here in 1927, and Grandma in 1928
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:30:04 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
So has anyone done any genealogical research on your family at all.
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:31:04 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
No, just me
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:31:36 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
What part of Canada are you in? It seems now that you might be from the West Coast of Canada, but don't remember.
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:33:20 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
Northwestern Ontario
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:34:12 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
How did your family end up in that area of Canada?
- 209.240.198.61 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:36:20 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
There were jobs in the area with a new paper mill going up in the area
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:37:04 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Until I looked at the map I didn't realize how large Ontario is. Quite a distance between north and south areas.
- 209.240.198.60 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:37:20 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
So were there a lot of Gottscheers in this area. It seems a lot of immigrants went to where other like minded people went.
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:38:36 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
I live on the Minnesota/Ontario border
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:38:38 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
How has your winter been so far? We have had a very mild winter here in Utah. Not moisture and were are now in our 4th year of drought.
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:40:06 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
cold and more cold
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:40:52 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
I suspect there is a lot of farming in that area. Wheat etc. My wife has a friend who lives in Minot, North Dakota. I think they have had a milder winter than usual. Mild in North Dakota though, is much colder than the coldest winter we ever have in this part of Utah.
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:42:29 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
very little farming, and surounded by forest. Were on the edge of the Canadian shield, which is mining and some forestry
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:45:09 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Very interesting! What kind of mining? I never really thought of mining being in that area of Canada.
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:46:38 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
anything from gold to iron.
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:47:36 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
It was nice chatting with you Sharon. I need to get back to my family. Hope you have great night and week.
- 209.240.198.60 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:48:25 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
goodnight john
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:48:54 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Good evening everyone-Iam not feeling well, and I am going to try tocatch up on some sleep-but I would like to secon the motion on Trixs' idea about the preservation of the Gottscheer dialect...It would be a splended endeavor- and the idea, while being admirable would really be a tough job. When I think of the younger generation here in America, I can honestly say(and remember, I am only speaking of the people I know) the Junge seem to know only the few words that are anectdotable, like for instance"Jeschus Gammish and things of that sort-and I hope I spelled that closely enough to understand. To learn enough to speak the dialect in conversation-well that is another story.I spoke the dialect years ago, and i don't mean fluently, by no means..But I was able to make myself understood, to the amazement of many Gottscheers in the family. I was young-married into a Gottscheer family I loved dearly-then came the hard job of growing up and supporting a family, etc, etc, -I hope you know what I mean. Thru the years with less time to spend (Quality Time) with the family I so dearly love, it became difficult.. And then I see the childre, who are now grown up withtheir own family, the language slowly disappearing, again, with just those few memorable word that they remember from their Mamma and Papa and Oma...My Gottsheer rerlatives go to visit their sisters in Europe, and they speak only German when they are visiting..So I say to you Trix, if there are some yhat are like me out there(and first you have to find that out) then let's go for it..You asked for ideas--When I fell better I would love to give some-maybe Adie may come up with something that i can't..Admirable indeed-love you for trying this Trix....
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 02:55:30 (UTC)

Trix:
Paul, Thank You so much for your kind words. I will definitely be anxious to hear any ideas. I am told that the Gottscheer language may either be the oldest, or one of the oldest dialects in the world. For cultural preservation alone it would seem to me that it needs to be preserved. I am so grateful to my parents for always it in our home. I am quite fluent in it and love to talk it too. So, first get well, rest up, keep thinking and keep sharing.
- 216.251.169.30 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 03:24:57 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
Hi Trix, I think all your ideas would be good
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 03:27:00 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
Its sure a quiet night.
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 03:28:10 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Sharon. Well, the game is over. Hope you are doing well and enjoying a nice evening. By the way ABC had a live broadcast from International Falls today talking about the cold weather. Pretty darn nippy here too. Thanks for your thoughts on the language. We'll have to wait and see where it takes us. Stay warm. By the way Honenegg is in the parish of Seele.
- 216.251.169.30 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 03:32:12 (UTC)

sharon eisenzopf:
Thanks for that info on the parish
- 206.172.22.213 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 03:45:41 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Concerning the information on the Gottscheer dialect, if anyone has any good ideas about audio recording, for instance .mp3 files of Gottscheers speaking, I would be happy to host those files here and provide links. Just let me know, email them to me, or whatever...if I'm not mistaken one of the other Gottscheer sites may already be doing this.
- 209.166.149.125 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 15:12:44 (UTC)

Trix:
Good Morning Helmuth: Boy, you are speaking a totally new foreign language to me. Can you put it in simple terms so that even those of us who are pretty novice (myself most definitely included) can understand your excellent thoughts? Danke Helmuth. Appreciate your interest so very, very much. If you wish, my e-mail is wyants@mlecmn.net.

Have a good day.
- 216.251.178.11 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 16:00:39 (UTC)

Irene:
Just testing my system
- 24.195.40.192 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 17:35:02 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Sorry Trix. It was early when I posted that and I should have explained it more coherently!

Audio information can be recorded and played back, just like a tape recorder, but in digital format. Call them "sound bites" if you will. One of the more popular formats is called MP3.

Let's say I record my voice saying "Griess eye Goett" (phonetically) then pipe that audio to a file called griess.mp3. If you click on it on a web site or on your computer, you would hear my voice saying the phrase through the MP3 player on your computer system.

Now if we recorded a whole bunch of these, to capture the dialect, you could make a menu-style page so that interested parties could click on each phrase and hear the dialect.

That was the general idea behind what I was trying to say this morning. I could provide the server space to store these sound bites and a menu page to provide a convenient link to them.

Actually recording the files would be a bit beyond my present capability; maybe someone else could pick up the ball on that.
- 209.166.149.125 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 19:02:41 (UTC)

Trix:
Helmuth - still Greek to me but I tell you what - I BELIEVE YOU!!! No doubt about you need to be a member of the committee if we decide to go for it. What would you think about that? Appreciate YOU, your contributions and your encouragement and help.

Danke.

Hubn tüa a guatn tuk.
- 216.251.178.11 - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 19:08:18 (UTC)

Nancy:
Good evening all
- 64.12.96.7 - Tuesday, January 21, 2003 at 01:14:51 (UTC)

Nancy:
I guess I missed everyone...Good night all
- 64.12.96.11 - Tuesday, January 21, 2003 at 01:18:16 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
You know what would be really neat with this web site? A place where we could show off photos of our ancestors from the Gottschee area, where we could share and and get help with recognizing people in some photos. I have a few photos where My Grandfather is in with other people. Trix told me that it was some kind a ceremony where the men are now considered men. The men are wearing flowers in their hats and have ribbons flowing from them. This was taking in 1915. These are one of my favorite pictures. If anyone would like to see it, I can email you the picture.
- 199.243.152.126 - Thursday, January 23, 2003 at 21:35:33 (UTC)

Ridy:
Sharon: I have several photos such as the ones you describe in the book Arnold and I wrote, called "Memories of Childhood", and what it means is that the men were enlisting in the army. They were given the flowers by the girls in the villages, and the more flowers and ribbons a man had, the more popular he was thought to be among the young ladies. Military service was compulsory.
- 64.229.234.187 - Thursday, January 23, 2003 at 22:33:05 (UTC)

Trix:
Sharon, I agree. Doing that would indeed be a great idea to a web site. I am sure that many of us have photos that we would like to share with others. Perhaps that will be possible down the road. I would definitely enjoy seeing the photos of the men going into the service. Ridy describes that much better and more accurately than I did. I agree, those are beautiful photos.

Stay warm.
- 216.251.169.32 - Thursday, January 23, 2003 at 23:00:09 (UTC)

Paul B.:
I am so depressed now. When I went away to war I did not get as much as a stinkweed.Somebody please tell me what's wrong with this picture!!!!!! Are you still working on the Gottscheer dialect Trix? I do so wish i knew enough to help in some way...But you do have my moral support..How about you Ridy, any ideas?
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, January 23, 2003 at 23:30:57 (UTC)

Trix:
What's wrong with the picture Paul is that people learn to appreciate people. If you would like I will send you some flowers.

Yes, we are still working on Gottscheabarisch and I am hopeful. Your moral support is very, very important Paul and for that we all say Dunk Schean.
- 216.251.169.32 - Friday, January 24, 2003 at 00:49:20 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Sorry Trix-I must confess that while I did not get any flowers-because it was not the tradition-everyone was very nice to me when I went away to serve. And the thing that impressed me the most was to see my Father crying-I never saw him cry before, and that was his way of telling me that he loved me...About the flowers, thank you for offering-you are a very kind and understanding person. I am looking forward to the Gottscheabarisch program. Danke...
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, January 24, 2003 at 05:08:40 (UTC)

Trix:
That is quite a memory, seeing your father cry Paul. Worth more than all the money in China. Are you staying warm? Brrrr again tonight but it will warm up to 15° next week. YIPPEE!!!
- 209.240.237.153 - Friday, January 24, 2003 at 05:52:11 (UTC)

Jody Elmer:
We recently had a family reunion and for a few days first cousins and a cousin once removed got together. I was thrilled to hear some of the words pronounced as they were in Gottschee. We were all so busy catching up that we didn't delve into that, but I even wonder how my family's name (Samide) sounded when pronounced. Since the birth and marriage records from the area seem to use "a" and "e" alternately, I'm assuming that the sound at the end of the name is "ah". We always knew it as "Sam-eyed". It would be interesting to hear the language, but possibly too grand a goal for the web site.
- 12.83.102.57 - Saturday, January 25, 2003 at 02:45:58 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Jody. Always good to hear from you. I am sure you would enjoy hearing the language. It is unique.

Hope you are well. We are brrrrrr country but spring is just around the corner.
- 216.251.178.30 - Saturday, January 25, 2003 at 04:29:20 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Happy Saturday morning everyone, I'm at work unfortunately :-)

You know something guys, many moons ago (year 2000 I think), I set up a Yahoo! group for Gottschee. It has not been used at all, because quite frankly I forgot about it. Sharon reminded me however in the topic of posting pictures for others to see.

There is an area devoted to that. Concieveable we can share whatever files we would like. Please check out:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gottscheevirtualclub

and tell me what you think.

You may need a yahoo ID to join, but it's well worth the effort. The site will walk you through that process. Don't give Yahoo! more information than is necessary to get your ID.

I'll be posting more about this later.
- 204.180.133.234 - Saturday, January 25, 2003 at 12:11:12 (UTC)

Trix:
Well, Helmuth, being the adventures lady that I am becoming I immediate checked it out. Actually found it - poor soul - looked so verloren. No doubt that will change now that the genius (Kump) remembered and is encouraging us to go there. Can someone loan me a hammer? Talk about frustration but I think I got it - I think I did.

Come now, everyone, lets give it a try. Once again Helmuth DANKE. You are appreciated and a good teacher.
- 209.240.245.140 - Saturday, January 25, 2003 at 14:35:58 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Trix, and everyone, when/if you visit the Yahoo! site, please be sure to click "Join this group!" in the upper right area of the page.

Thanks for the compliment Trix, but I have to wonder what it means when I set things up then totally forget that I did!
- 63.16.45.26 - Saturday, January 25, 2003 at 14:54:40 (UTC)

Trix:
Helmuth, the fact that you set it up andd totally forgot does not mean a thing. Busy people get things done. Besides up until now we haven't had time to explore anything new anyway.

I am looking forward to this experience. Do you still speak Gottscheabarisch?
- 209.240.245.140 - Saturday, January 25, 2003 at 15:16:50 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Trix-Love your "UP" attitude-all of us in the "Alte" (sp?) Group should try to remember your reasoning on the On the subject of "Vergessen (sp?) As you can readily see, I can use that Gottscheabarisch learning! I am so mad at myself. But my forgetting the little that I did know was when i went into the restaurant business years ago and lost all the good times i used to have and spend with my Gottscheer family....So pleeeez try to get this thing going...Danke
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, January 25, 2003 at 19:28:32 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Trix, I can probably speak enough to carry on a basic conversation. My brother Walter is much better at it since he's worked in Ridgewood for years and talked to Gottscheers every day. Paul, there are two things that start to go as we get older. First, our memory starts failing us. Second...um...second is....
- 209.114.157.190 - Saturday, January 25, 2003 at 20:57:49 (UTC)

Trix:
Helmuth, if you can tell me in very simple terms how to post a photo I will be most grateful. I am ready for a hammer. Danke.
- 209.240.237.172 - Saturday, January 25, 2003 at 23:00:26 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Helmuth-I heard it this way "Memory is the second thing to go"...When you ask what is the first thing, I say I forget...I was having dinner with a customer of ours and he told that joke when I had a mouth full & I almost choked to death!!!!This guy is a customer and a friend-he is the jokingest Irishman i ever met..Great company-Just never know when he is serious...
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, January 26, 2003 at 01:15:18 (UTC)

Helmuth:
Trix, once you add a folder (I assume that was you that added the Minnesota one?) click on the folder then click on the "add a photo" link. It will prompt you for a file name on your computer to upload. If that doesn't work let me know.

Paul, I heard it that way too. You are right, what is it about the Irish that they are always good for a laugh a minute?
- 209.114.157.190 - Sunday, January 26, 2003 at 01:53:09 (UTC)

peter:
n any one help?.
- 203.12.144.231 - Sunday, January 26, 2003 at 09:59:20 (UTC)

Robert:
Hello, I live in Australia on a farm and would like to talk to German farmers about farming in Germany. Can anyone help?
- 203.12.144.231 - Sunday, January 26, 2003 at 10:01:53 (UTC)

Trix:
Remember the new website that Helmuth told us about? Please check it out. I have struggled (I mean struggled) and actually succeeded in posting some photos. YIPPEE FOR ME. What an accomplishment and what a neat way of doing it.
HELMUTH - DANKE.

If I ever set up my own web site will you help me?
- 209.240.245.161 - Sunday, January 26, 2003 at 18:19:41 (UTC)

:
For your enjoyment:

Red Skelton's Tips For A Happy Marriage

1. Two times a week, we go to a nice restaurant, have a little
beverage,
then comes good food and companionship.
She goes on Tuesdays, I go on Fridays.

2. We also sleep in separate beds. Hers is in Ontario and mine is in
Tucson.

3. I take my wife everywhere, but she keeps finding her way back.

4. I asked my wife where she wanted to go for our anniversary.
"Somewhere I haven't been in a long time!" she said.
So I suggested the kitchen.

5. We always hold hands. If I let go, she shops.

6. She has an electric blender, electric toaster and electric bread
maker.
Then she said "There are too many gadgets and no place to sit down!"
So I bought her an electric chair.

7. My wife told me the car wasn't running well because there was
water in the carburetor.
I asked where the car was, she told me
"In the Lake."

8. She got a mudpack and looked great for two days. Then the mud
fell off.

9. She ran after the garbage truck, yelling
"Am I too late for the garbage?"
The driver said "No, jump in!"

10. Remember. Marriage is the number one cause of divorce.

11. Statistically, 100% of all divorces start with marriage.

12. I married Miss Right. I just didn't know her first name was
Always.

13. I haven't spoken to my wife in 18 months. I don't like to
interrupt her.

14. The last fight was my fault. My wife asked "What's on the TV?"
I said
"Dust!"

- 209.240.245.161 - Sunday, January 26, 2003 at 21:41:06 (UTC)

Trix:
Sorry, forgot my name. Was laughing so hard wasn't thinking straight.
- 209.240.245.161 - Sunday, January 26, 2003 at 21:41:36 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Will leave a quick message, then go back to this disappointing Super Bowl. Very cold here. Warming trend coming tomorrow. Not much snow. Bleib gesund. Alles gute.
- 66.140.94.21 - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 01:41:30 (UTC)

Paul B.:
I guess everyone is watching the Super Bowl-First time I was able to make it on time..Oh well, that's life i guess...Enjoy the game everybody.............
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 02:11:39 (UTC)

George:
Finally got an invoice for the German newspaper. Now the issues have stopped arriving.
- 68.106.97.89 - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 02:40:44 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Good evening
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 02:45:53 (UTC)

Trix:
Good evening one and all. Hope you all enjoyed the game. What a huge event this is. I always root for the underdog and doing the same for Tampa Bay was no exception. Enjoyed it.

Hope you are all well and will have a good week. We are in a snow advisory until 5 a.m.

- 209.240.237.139 - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 03:35:53 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Anybody home?
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 03:41:44 (UTC)

Paul B.:
We are getting our snow now -looks like some accumulation, if it keeps up..Sleep well everyone..
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 03:55:27 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Paul. Just saw a short clip from NY and saw the snowflakes flying like mad. Very little snow here but very, very cold. Heat wave of 18° coming mid-week. Yippee. Have a good week. Hi to Addie.
- 209.240.237.139 - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 04:25:55 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Does anyone have pictures of Hohenegg they would like to share?
- 199.243.152.152 - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 05:04:51 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Sharon. I am not aware of a village photo of Hohenegg taken before the resettlement of 1941. There may be some - I just don't know of any. But, I have several photos that I took in 1996 while there and one old one of the surroundings. I am waiting for my new scanner and when it is installed will gladly share them. Please remind me if you don't hear from me within the month.

I know several Gottscheers who were born in Hohenegg. Will ask them if they might have some photos.

Did you visit the site that Helmuth told us about where you can post photos? Please do it. It sounds a bit complicated but if I can manage - anyone can do it. Good luck. Do post some of your photos. Would love to see them.
- 209.240.245.77 - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 20:21:58 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hi Trix, Adie sends her best regards too, and she says to tell you not to try going out in shorts in your 18
degree heat wave! We have 18 right now with a beautiful sunshine and last nights' light snow fall...Keep warm trix.
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 20:27:58 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Thanks Trix. I know what you mean about new scanners. Mom bought a new one that was easier for her to use but she still has me scanner for her. I found it easy to check out that new site, having already an email account with yahoo. I need to fix the photo I have because of the years of wear on them. I use the program "PAINT". Its quite easy. Well I see the Grater is going by so that means I have to go and shovel the driveway. If your wondering what Grater means, that what we call our snowplow.
- 199.243.152.37 - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 20:31:43 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Sorry to have missed you last night Greg. Hope to talk to you again.
- 199.243.152.37 - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 20:33:13 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Eleven minutes past midnite-Happy Saturday and weekend everyone..
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, February 01, 2003 at 05:15:05 (UTC)

Russell:
1:30 am local time here. In the NYC area, we have to dial all 11 digits whenever making a phone call. Even within our area code.
- 64.12.105.38 - Saturday, February 01, 2003 at 06:30:57 (UTC)

Trix:
Greetings from Waukenabo. Can you believe the tragedy of today? There seems to be so much sadness in the world. Golly, it would be nice if we could all get along, respect each other, support each other and look for the good in people.

Take care everyone.
- 216.251.178.23 - Saturday, February 01, 2003 at 17:41:29 (UTC)

Russell:
If you're refering to about Texas, so far it seems to have been a tragic accident. At the time I'm writing this there is nothing to suggest it was anything but.
- 152.163.204.72 - Saturday, February 01, 2003 at 17:56:47 (UTC)

Paul B.:
We should all say a prayer tonite for the victims and the families. Another black sad day in America and the world in these troubled times....God help us....
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, February 02, 2003 at 04:01:41 (UTC)

Gerhard:
Liebe US-Freunde!
Es tut mir Leid wegen der Tragödie mit dem Space Shuttle.

Ich freue mich aber mit Euch über die Silber Medaille von Bode Miller im Super-G bei der Schi WM.
Wie Nahe liegen Leid und Freud beieinander.

Liebe Grüße aus Österreich
Gerhard
- 62.218.157.69 - Sunday, February 02, 2003 at 21:00:20 (UTC)

Trix:
Danke Gerhard. Dieses ist sehr nett von Dir. Ja, ein trauriger Tag und wieder eine traurige Zeit aber wie sagst - Freuden mit Trännen.

Und wie geht alls in Österreich. Bin in Kärnten in der Nähe von Villach aufgewachsen.
- 209.240.237.158 - Sunday, February 02, 2003 at 21:04:44 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Hi Everyone! How is everyone doing?
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:00:01 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
John: We're fine here in KCMO 55 today. Snow tomorrow. That's Missouri weather for you. Hope everyone had a good week.
- 64.218.109.69 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:06:07 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Gerhard: Wish I could write/speak good German. Would like to communicate with you. Anyway, greetings from the middle of the United States--Missouri, that is. Alles Gute.
- 64.218.109.69 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:09:19 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
We prayed for the shuttle people at church today. The people of Texas have a huge job ahead of them--find debris.Wish there was some way to help.
- 64.218.109.69 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:11:57 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hello everyone
- 199.243.152.73 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:12:24 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Must log off early. Been up since 5AM. Need to tidy up some things and hit the hay. Auf Wiedersehen. Bleib gesund. Alles Gute.
- 64.218.109.69 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:13:54 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
goodnight margaret
- 199.243.152.73 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:15:23 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Thank you Trix for the picture of Hohenegg. How do you like your new scanner?

- 199.243.152.73 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:18:12 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Have I missed everyone again tonite?
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:41:47 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Not sure if anyone is left in the room. How are you doing, Marilu?
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:43:58 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Bumped into a relative of yours from Nebraska online--- actually a married in ---- Jane Petsche married to Thomas Petsche. He descended from Ernest Petsche.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:44:57 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim I am doing good.
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:45:29 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
John, Emil Hirsch sent me an email about the ship manifests but could not help him.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:45:56 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Seems like forevery since I have made it here on Sunday night. And when I do, no one else is here!
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:46:07 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
She had information on that line. The information that I had in file differed from hers but in no major way. Some dates differed but little else.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:47:08 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I am not too familiar with most of the Petsche line yet. I have not done as much on them yet as I have the Peschel part.
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:47:17 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I haven't been consistent either. Some weeks I check in and others I have been deliquent.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:47:57 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I know some of them were in Osmond and Randolph NE where the Peschels lived.
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:48:28 (UTC)

:
Hi Jim,
Thanks for your help with Emil. It was of great help.
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:49:39 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I received information on the Petsche lines from Pat Sullivan and someone else. Thomas is your 3rd cousin once removed.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:49:57 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I am trying hard to concentrate on my Underberg family, but I keep going back to the Peschels. I have done a pretty complete file on the other branch of the Peschel family from Bistriz #5, and it is still bugging me to find more.
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:50:21 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Thanks also with your help with Annie's family history. Hopefully we can find her mother's family. There are an awful lot of Hutter's in this area. She could be related to almost any of them
- 209.240.198.60 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:50:51 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
John, welcome. I am glad to have helped. Emil was wondering if I had any experience with the ship manifests. Other than the online Ellis Island information, I don't have much experience. Some of the pre Ellis Island and other port ship manifests are available online as well.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:51:39 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Pat Sullivan has sent me stuff too, he is the one that headed me in the right direction on the Peschels. I have a lot in my file on the Petsches, but don't work on that line very much yet.
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:51:55 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Jim,
I didn't really know much about the ships passenger list's either. I also told him that Kate might have some experience in this area. I have not done much work in this area.
- 209.240.198.61 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:52:55 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Marilu, I have also tended to concentrate on the Gottscheer side of the equation. I have not done much with the Heimann side. Those branches make it back to the early to mid 1800s but I still don't know what part of Germany they came from.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:53:00 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
What is he wanting to know on ship manifests. I have looked at a few on microfilm at the LDS library.
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:53:20 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Well I have to go. I just wanted to check in. Hope everyone has a productive night on the Plauderzimmer.
- 209.240.198.60 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:54:10 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
It was very nice to be able to get as far as we did on Anne's family. The Hutters will be a little harder. Anne is supposed to be getting a copy of their marriage certificate. That might help out.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:54:18 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Have a good night, John.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:54:29 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi everyone. Good to see you are chatting away. That's always good. What a tragedy once again. It's a good thing that we don't know what the next moment will bring for any of us. Hope you are all ok. Damp here but very little snow and that is great with me. I do not miss all the shoveling.
- 209.240.237.145 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:54:43 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Emil is trying to find out how to use them and locate relatives. I am pretty much in the dark as well when it comes to finding the original manifests.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:55:26 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Emil is trying to find gottscheer ancestors who came to America around 1891. I would guess they came through New York. Most Gottscheer's did because they already had relatives in the area.
- 209.240.198.62 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:55:50 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello, Trix. I have been in contact with Inge and trading emails. Interesting branching into Austria.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:56:42 (UTC)

John Herbst III:
Good night all.
- 209.240.198.63 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:56:44 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
You have to have an idea of the time frame when they came. There is usually about 3 months worth on a microfilm. I got lucky with most of mine and found them on the first microfilm I ordered. Except a couple of Peschles. I have ordered 3 microfilms and no luck.
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:57:07 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
It is a tragedy. Hopefully they will be able to find out the cause and prevent future tragedies. It is scary to know that they could have done nothing about the damage even if they knew about it before hand.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:57:57 (UTC)

Trix:
Speaking about the ships manifest, does anyone know if the lists of passengers after World War II will ever be available? I am particularly interested in my journey from Bremerhafen to NY Harbor - April 16 to 26th 1952. Boy, I would love to know who was all aboard.
- 209.240.237.145 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:58:05 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I think Emil has a good idea as to when one of them came over but not the other.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:58:40 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Trix, that is a good question but I don't have the answer.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:59:17 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Marilu, if you ever need a quick guide to the Petsches, just give me the word. Have I sent you that information before?
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 02:59:57 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
The only place I have ordered ship manifest is thru the LDS library. And they have a list of microfilm, and the dates covered on each film.
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:00:22 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, I think you have send me a little on the Petsches a long time ago. I would take anything you offered, as it would save me time later on when I get around to them.
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:01:28 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Trix, my conversations with Inge brings me back to my thoughts on linking up with foreign Gottscheer groups for purposes of sharing genealogy information. Has there been any progress on that front? I keep thinking that one of the people that we help will turn out to be the key.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:01:29 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Can you give me the specific Petsche name that you would like information on?
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:02:05 (UTC)

Bill Gregory:
Hi everyone. I'm still looking for maps of Rieg and Morobitz which show the old house numbers (and names). Ann and I were all set last June to find her grandfather's house in Rieg by House Number when we found that all the houses in Gottscheehave been renumbered since WW II. There are only two houses left in Morobitz but we do not know which they were in the church records. Any help ppreciated.
- 12.92.24.22 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:03:17 (UTC)

Trix:
John, so long and Marilu hi. I have been busy encouraging Gottscheers, who were born there, to try to focus and remember what life was like. It is so interesting that the usual, first response is I don't remember a thing. After a bit of encouragement bits and pieces return. Such fun to read those reflections. I wish I could contact every single Gottscheer or Gottscheerin who lived there to write their memories. They are marvelous to read and so important to our preservation efforts.
- 209.240.237.145 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:03:22 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
My direct Petsche ancestor is Maria Petsche, born Jan 5 1823 in Bistriz #2. Her father was Joannes Petsche born about 1789, and we don't know where.
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:04:36 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I have all her brothers and sisters, but havenot completed their lines.
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:05:05 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I am sending you what I have in a text file.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:06:09 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Bill Gregory. Thinking about your inquiry I am wondering if Erik Krisch, President of the Peter Kosler Gottscheer Verein could not help you. He comes from near Morobitz and Rieg and has a friend by the name of Emil Krese who now lives in Grafenfeld (Dolga vas) who has a wealth of knowledge. Erik's e-mail address can be found in the GHGA membership directory. Give it a try. No doubt you met both of them during your June trip. They will remember you. Be sure and ask your questions very specific so that there is no misunderstanding. Further, they might even find some old timers still living there who might personally remember this.
- 209.240.237.145 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:07:43 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ok Thanks Jim, I think it just arrived. Yep. I will look at it later. I have been consentrating on the Peschels, and the Petsche line is just as important. But I have to get this Underberg book ready for the reunion this summer.
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:08:58 (UTC)

Trix:
Dr. Jim - I agree with you on the need to connect with individual Gottscheers in Europe and ask them to share their memories. It is quite amazing how many of us felt for years that nothing that we knew was important - myself included. I never talked about my homeland or experiences during and after the war for over just about 30 years except with my parents and immediate family. But, after both of my parents died I realized that I have a responsibility, an interest, a passion to collect all that we can about living life as a Gottscheer or Gottscheerin. We have quite a story to tell and I have yet to meet an individual who isn't fascinated by it. So, there is a big job ahead and I am giving it serious consideration about moving into that arena. Thanks for bringing it up.
- 209.240.237.145 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:11:58 (UTC)

Trix:
Dr. Jim, where does Inge live?
- 209.240.237.145 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:18:59 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Trix, there continue to be many aspects to the equation. My thrust is the genealogy and yours is the heritage. The linking information is getting lost as time goes on. Similarly the culture and traditions are getting lost as well. I still think there are too many organizations doing too much of the same work. Coordination is lacking to say the least.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:21:19 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
She lives in Linz, Upper Austria. Fascinating story. There is an article on the Verderber side of her family from a 1975 Gottscheer newspaper. I don't know which one but the information in the article fit well with information that I had located earlier. Fit like a hand in glove.
- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:22:52 (UTC)

Bill Gregory:
Thanks for the suggestion Trix. Yes, I remember both Erik and Emil from last summer. I recently bought a CD of Gottscheer music from Erick for the benefit of the Peter Kosler Verein. I have his e-mail address and will send him a message tomorrow.
- 12.92.24.22 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:25:41 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
time to pack it in. Goodnight, Bill, Trix, and Marilu.

- 152.163.201.49 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:27:57 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Thanks for the file, Jim. And goodnight. See you all next week.
- 205.188.197.59 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:29:11 (UTC)

Bill Gregory:
Goodnight all. I'm going to try to catch the last half of the new "Dragnet" TV show.
- 12.92.24.22 - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 03:29:24 (UTC)

Werner:
Bill Gregory, please note Erik Krisch,s E-mail in a note in the Plauderzimmer for me. I would also like to contact him.
Thanks.
- 206.216.113.145 - Tuesday, February 04, 2003 at 02:51:00 (UTC)

Werner Lackner:
Sorry Bill. Forgot my last name.
- 206.216.116.77 - Tuesday, February 04, 2003 at 03:42:11 (UTC)

Trix:
Good Morning Werner Lackner. Where, might I ask do you live and to which village(s) in Gottschee, are your Gottscheer connections? I was born in the Moschnitze area, resettled to near Königsberg, Untersteiermark in 1941 and immigrated to Minnesota in 1952. Would enjoy hearing more about you. Have a good, good day.
- 209.240.245.74 - Tuesday, February 04, 2003 at 14:53:33 (UTC)

Bill Gregory:
Werner Lackner: Hello Werner. I will be happy to send you Erik Krisch's e-mail address. Just send me a message at wm.gregory@att.net and I'll reply right away. I would rather not publish his address on the Plauderzimmer without his permission.
- 12.92.18.254 - Tuesday, February 04, 2003 at 16:54:20 (UTC)

Werner Lackner:
Hello Trix and Bill, I was born in Nesseltal and we resettled in Gurkfeld. After the war we stayed in Graz and from there we immigrated to the US in 1950. Lived in Ridgewood for many years and then moved to Poughkeepsie, NY. Bill, I will send you my E-mail. Have a good night all.
- 207.94.106.169 - Thursday, February 06, 2003 at 03:29:57 (UTC)

Irene:
Hello everyone,

Trix you mentioned an Emil Kresse who is very knowledgable. Does he have an email address? Does he read English?
- 24.195.44.139 - Thursday, February 06, 2003 at 17:01:17 (UTC)

Trix:
Irene: WELCOME HOME. Hope you had a GREAT time. Emil does not have e-mail but his son does. I am thinking Emil could read English. I will send you the information in an e-mail.
- 209.240.237.134 - Thursday, February 06, 2003 at 17:45:23 (UTC)

Irene:
Thank you Trix. I'm glad to be back, even some of the snow melted. I would say some of the big mounds are only about 4 foot high although we cannot see any brown dirt yet. I'm refeshed and ready to work on all projects.
- 24.195.44.139 - Thursday, February 06, 2003 at 17:48:24 (UTC)

Trix:
Greetings from a very, very cold Minnesota. We have -19° now and it is getting colder. The wood fire feels WONDERFUL. Hope to chat with many of you tomorrow evening.
Stay warm.
- 209.240.245.96 - Sunday, February 09, 2003 at 05:40:50 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Still having a colder than average winter in New Jersey. More snow on the way.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 01:56:02 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I am hoping that someone in the chatroom can help out --- I am trying to find out the best way of getting information for a fellow Gottscheer who is just starting to connect with his family tree. He was born in the Klagenfurt camps in 1946. Does anyone have any suggestions on finding out information from that area for the years 1946-1952? Where did they keep the birth records for that time period. He and his grandmother emigrated to the US in 1952.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 01:58:54 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope all had a super week.
- 64.218.109.245 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:05:19 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Do you think Pete Yonke might be able to help. He is a whiz at family tree information. PeteYonke@aol.com Hope this is a place to begin.
- 64.218.109.245 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:07:17 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Werner: Hi. It's me, Margie, your KC cousin. I didn't know you logged onto the plauderzimmer. Welcome! Now, if Eddie would log on, it would be perfect. Hope Trudy is well. How are the kids and grandkids??
- 64.218.109.245 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:09:35 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
Good evening all,
Jim - I really don't know where they keep records, but Klagenfurt is the capital of the Province of Kärnten, and they may have records there; otherwise it would be in Vienna, the capital of Austria.
- 64.229.233.152 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:12:37 (UTC)

Trix:
Dr. Jim: I would recommend that you send an e-mail to the following:
Stadt Klagenfurt
Rathaus - Neuer Platz 1
A-9010 Klagenfurt 90.000
445 m
??? +43 - 463 537 201
+43 - 463 537 780
mayor.scheuer@klagenfurt.at

Good luck.

- 209.240.245.67 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:13:18 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Thank you for your suggestions. Ridy, I am looking at the site right now but may just save it and look at it later.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:20:08 (UTC)

Ridy:
Now that I think of it, Jim, each Province does have their own archives. At least, when I was tracing my grandmother's family, I was able to get the information from the Vorarlberger archives.
- 64.229.233.152 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:22:48 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hmmm -
I must have the hiccups!
- 64.229.233.152 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:23:29 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Sorry to log off. Auf Wiedersehen. Alles Gute. Bleib ggesund.
- 64.218.109.245 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:23:56 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
As I have emailed with some of you in the past, I hope that we (Gottscheers) can coordinate our efforts to a greater degree. Both amongst the different organizations in the "New World" as well as those in Europe. Many of our goals are the same and it would be better for us to concentrate our efforts in a combined fashion than have everyone doing the same thing but haphazardly.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:24:09 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
The site has been a little balky tonight. I thought it was my computer.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:24:51 (UTC)

Ridy:
My sentiments exactly, Jim. There seems to be a lot of fragmentation.
I understand that the Klagenfurter Gottscheers have been working on setting up a website . . .
- 64.229.233.152 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:26:47 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Ridy and Dr. Jim. Well, got my honey comfy watching a great movie - Horatio Hornblower. I think it is the best series in our collection. There are 7 tapes to it and they are working on No. 8. Can't wait to get it.

Boy, do I agree on the need to coordinate. Life would be so much easier for all who are active in the Gottscheer preservation efforts. There is so much yet to do, i.e. Indexing the Gottscheer Zeitung. There is sooooo much excellent material in them but trying to find a specific item is like a needle in a haystack and takes an enormous amount of time, which most of us, don't have. Gosh, I wish we could hire someone to do that job. Any ideas anyone?

So, Ridy, how is everything in Toronto? Very, very nippy here and will stay so all week. Then a heatwave to 18°. Yippee.

And Dr. Jim, the world treating you ok?
- 209.240.245.67 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:32:07 (UTC)

Trix:
I hope every GHGA member has received the recent issue of the Gottscheer Connection newsletter. There were two articles that our ready seemed to have truly enjoyed. One was Health Rules for Living and the other was the Remembrances by August Gril AND several really enjoyed your article Dr. Jim. Thanks.
- 209.240.245.67 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:36:21 (UTC)

Ridy:
I thoroughly enjoyed the reprieve from the cold weather in Texas. Was able to walk around in short sleeves down there. In Toronto I wish I could get back into my fur coat!
- 64.229.233.152 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:37:00 (UTC)

Trix:
Ridy, are you trying to tell us something regarding the fur coat?????
- 209.240.245.67 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:38:10 (UTC)

Ridy:
Yeah - It's about ten sizes too small on me now, but there's nothing like a fur coat to keep you nice and warm in this brutally cold winter.
- 64.229.233.152 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:45:21 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Trix,
I had an artidle??? I haven't received a copy of the newsletter yet. When did it come out?

We had the doctor rally in Trenton over malpractice. It has gotten so bad that there has been a 25% decrease in the number of practicing obstetricians in the state. The lawyers and the politicians are dragging their feet on any true tort reform.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:46:32 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I meant article not artidle. Not sure what an artidle is. Perhaps a vegetable.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:47:06 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
What channel is Horatio on? I enjoy movies based on history.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:48:49 (UTC)

Ridy:
Maybe artidle started out as a fruit, e.g., grape, and followed the natural progression. . . . or maybe it was just a typo.
- 64.229.233.152 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:49:43 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
My wife likes stuffed artichokes so perhaps it is in that family. But you are correct, a typo it was and will remain. The site that you sent me looks interesting. It even had a readily available English translation for those of us who are German language challenged.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:52:12 (UTC)

Trix:
I think the connection was mailed (bulk) about 2 weeks ago. You should get it very soon. I think I will wait and let you read the article yourself.

Horatio are videos. They are truly excellent. Bought a set on e-bay for our grandsons and they, too, love to watch them.
- 209.240.245.67 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:52:50 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I think Gregory Peck starred in the movie version. John Wayne would not have done it justice :) . Watching John as Genghis Khan is a hoot. He must have cringed after he made that one.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:55:28 (UTC)

Ridy:
Wouldn't you agree that John Wayne always just played John Wayne? I didn't have a problem with that. . .
- 64.229.233.152 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:57:30 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I am a John Wayne fan and all I will say is that he did not have the greatest range as an actor. He did have some meaty roles but he was never going to make it in certain types of movies.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 02:59:25 (UTC)

Ridy:
The bells keep ringing and I have to say adieu for tonight.
Stay warm, keep out of trouble, and we'll chat again next Sunday. Gute Nacht from Toronto!
- 64.229.233.152 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:05:00 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Goodnight, Ridy and Trix. Have a good week.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:07:44 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Hello Jim
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:11:20 (UTC)

Trix:
You are right Dr. Jim, Gregory Peck made the original movie. I just ordered it for comparison. These are made by A & E and stars a GREAT Welch actor in the title role.

Good night to you both.
- 209.240.245.67 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:12:49 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Greg. Stay on, Dr. Jim may come back. I wish you a good evening from Minnesota. How are you?
- 209.240.245.67 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:13:44 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Doing great. I am relatively new and hate to butt in on other's conversations. I had a few ancestry exchanges with Jim a few weeks ago. How do you fit into this? I don't know your last name, etc.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:16:12 (UTC)

Jim:
Hello, Greg. Trix emailed to say that you had logged on. I received your emails and the ancestry.com links. Thank you. How are you doing? Did you find the family file of help?
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:17:27 (UTC)

Jim:
Gregg, the Plauderzimmer is a very social area. If you have anything to add, just let it fly.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:18:35 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Your file was a temendous help. Thanks!
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:18:46 (UTC)

Jim:
Trix, Gregg is fairly closely related to Kate. First cousin once removed. Practically siblings :)
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:20:31 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
I am quite good on the databases. Several of you are questioning help needed in certain areas. I'd like to help. I'm sure my geneology file is a complete copy of someone elses and I agree...what's the point of me doing this when it's already done elsewhere. What types of things need done that I might help on?
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:23:26 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
I never met Kate but my mom used to run around with her as kids. We all grew up in Kansas City. She is my mom's first cousin.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:25:31 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hello and goodnite everyone.Just got home and I ran to the PC-I see everyone is going to bed-Going to check my E-Mail and go to bed myself-busy day ahead on Monday. Sleep Well..
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:26:17 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Trix you're on here a lot. Not sure who you are?
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:27:10 (UTC)

Jim:
Trix is a Stalzer from the Tschermoschnitz parish. She grew up in Gottschee and lives in the mighty state of Minnesota. Trix is very active in the GHGA and has been to Gottschee several times in the past ten years.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:32:09 (UTC)

Jim:
Gregg, there are several databases around. The GHGA has compiled quite a few from the original microfilms. Kate is always looking for volunteers to work on some of them. It can be time consuming. Are you familiar with the microfilms?
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:33:32 (UTC)

Jim:
Paul, sorry you could not stay on longer. Have a good week. Send me an email when you get the chance.
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:34:32 (UTC)

Trix:
Well who I am is Sophia Trix Stalzer-Wyant born near Tschermoschnitz, Gottschee. I am a fellow board memer of Kate's on the GHGA (Gottscheer Heritage and Genealogy Assn.) a non-profit association established "to preserve the history, culture and family records of Gottschee". We are in our 11th year and have a membership of right around 500.

My parents and I resettled in 1941, survived the Flucht (flight for life) into Austria in 1945, lived in various Displaced Persons Camps until 1946 when my parents found work in Altfinkenstein near Villach, Kärnten, Austria. We immigrated to Minnesota in 1952 and I have lived here ever since.

I am active in many facits of preservation of what remains of the former Gottschee, have made 6 trips there since 1984 (which was our first since leaving there in 1941) and have truly enjoyed what I have learned about my former homeland.

You live where? And your connection in Gottschee is to which area? It is nice to meet you Gregg and I appreciate your offer.
- 209.240.245.67 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:36:15 (UTC)

Jim:
I think it is time for me to turn in. Tomorrow looks like a busy day and I am going to get an early headstart before the snow hits. If it doesn't snow, I will try to get to the chocolate store for my Valentine..
- 64.12.104.168 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:41:19 (UTC)

:
I live in Blue Springs, Missouri about 20 miles outside of Kansas City. My grandfather Karl Tramposch (Carl Tramposh) came from Hohenegg. Most of my line on his side is from Hohenegg and Katzendorf. His wife Alvina Loschke was born in Kansas City, Missouri but her folks were also from Gottschee, especially Suchen. This is the same line Kate Pruente is from. Alvina's brother is Kate's dad.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:49:05 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Goodnight Jim.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:51:12 (UTC)

Trix:
Greg: Are you then related to Helmut Tramposch also from Hohenegg? He is a fellow Director on the GHGA Board. It is a small world after all isn't it?

So what do you do in Blue Springs, MO?
- 209.240.245.67 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:52:22 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
I'm actually jobless at the moment. I worked for real estate companies the last few years, first in sales then in corporate office. I was diagnosed with Diabetes in December. I lost almost all of my vision for a while and couldn't work. The company replaced me during my absence. I see fine now.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:56:35 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
I really think about all Tramposch's are connected. I started my geneology about six months ago and have much to do. I keep running across Helmut's name in places such as this, but don't have the connection to him yet. I'd really like to do this. Kate Pruente asked me to give him access to my database on Ancestry.Com which I did. That's funny because I've never actually talked to him.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 03:59:23 (UTC)

Franz Schmuck:
to all the computer whizards I have 9 Emails waiting soneone sent me one that is more than 30 minutes long I would like to stop or cacell it so that I can get to the rest of the 8 Emails helpplease.
- 66.119.174.134 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 04:11:51 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Franz it's going to be a long night!
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 04:14:04 (UTC)

:
Franz, all you have to do is click on you inbox again you will be back to the mail list. It is just like moving your browser back.
Bob Dulzer
- 207.221.79.232 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 04:23:05 (UTC)

Trix:
Franz, I am glad that I am not the guilty party. When you clear it up let us know.

Gregg, Helmuth who was born in Untersteiermark (after the rewsettlment in 1941) has 2 sisters in upstate NY who were born in Hohenegg. I visited the village and met some of the natives in 1999. If you are interested in getting in touch with them let me know and I shall ask for permission to give you their e-mail addresses.

Bob Dulzer, welcome to the Plauderzimmer. I am hapy to meet you. Where are you at and where in Gottschee might your connection be? I met a Mr. Dulzer at the North American Gottscheer Treffen in Milwaukee in 1991, I think. He lived in the Chicago area.

Gregg and Bob, I would like to extend to both of you an invitation to consider joining the GHGA. It's a great association where one can learn an awful lot about our Gottscheer heritage.
- 209.240.245.67 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 04:36:58 (UTC)

Franz schmuck:
Sophia I know it is not you I have an idea who it is .
Thank you Bob that does not seem to work. I am trying to get in touch with my server but Sunday you know.
- 66.119.174.108 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 05:10:51 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Trix thank you very much. You are truly a great person to chat with. Sorry it took so long to respond. Maybe you will read this later if you come back and look. Please do set me up with the two sisters from upstate NY. I already have Helmut email address and will write him direct. My email address is gklighthouse@comcast.net if you need anything.
- 68.34.133.141 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 05:33:31 (UTC)

Franz Schmuck:
Well the email finally finished it was who i suspected only 3.24 mb. it was a" real one player" english soccer players in the buff. We loved the quantas one probably true too. thanks sophia have not spoken in ti the black box yet , but I did reherse and I dont thik it will work.
- 66.119.174.14 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 06:17:26 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Well I'm sorry to have missed last nights chat. Good see you Greg. How have you been? I still look forward to the family pictures.
- 199.243.152.242 - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 21:40:56 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi Jim, sometimes A&E has Horatio on it. Also did you receive an email from me regarding Franz Hutter. I wasn't sure if it went through. If not I'll be glad to resend it.
- 199.243.152.107 - Thursday, February 13, 2003 at 06:23:30 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Adie and I would like to take this opportunity to wish everyone on the Plauderzimmer a very pleasant and happy Valentine Day...Enjoy....
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, February 14, 2003 at 01:38:14 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Well I was going through the family funeral stuff and came across some stamps. Apparently my Grandmother collected stamps. I found some from 1927 from Gottschee and Yugoslavia. There still in great shape. I think its neat coming across stuff like that. Takes you back into history, and how cheap stamps were back then. But back then it was probably expensive to them.
- 199.243.152.125 - Friday, February 14, 2003 at 07:35:48 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Sharon, I am not sure I received the Franz Hutter email. Can you resend it just in case?
- 12.40.224.207 - Friday, February 14, 2003 at 14:32:28 (UTC)

Trix:
Ridy, all your friends from the Plauderzimmer wish you a wonderful birthday. Celebrate joyfully and cheerfully. THIS IS YOUR DAY - enjoy it. Yes, 1936 was indeed a vintage year.
- 209.240.245.149 - Friday, February 14, 2003 at 23:19:58 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Ridy Do you and I share the same Birthday today ( Feb 14th)?
Happy Birthday
- 199.243.152.160 - Friday, February 14, 2003 at 23:47:31 (UTC)

Ridy:
Thank you for your good wishes.
Trix - I'll get you next week!
1936 may have been a vintage year, but what's better than having a birthday on Valentine's day, eh Sharon! Happy Birthday to you too!
Happy Valentine's Day to all the Plauderzimmer regulars!
:-)
- 64.229.237.55 - Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 00:20:32 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Well here is another kick, my twin cousin share the same day.
- 199.243.152.83 - Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 04:11:43 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I mean twin cousins, not cousin. Forgot the S on the end.
- 199.243.152.124 - Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 04:46:25 (UTC)

Paul B.:
HOPE ALL YOU BIRTHDAY KIDS HAD A GREAT DAY- WISH YOU ALL AVERY PLEASANT WEEKEND....
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 05:04:39 (UTC)

Trix`:
Sharon - HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you too. Hope it was a great day.
- 209.240.245.149 - Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 05:31:32 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Thank you everyone for the birthday wishes
- 199.243.152.211 - Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 17:12:46 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
One more day until Daytona 500. Yippee
- 199.243.152.233 - Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 19:31:53 (UTC)

waldow:
Guten Tag! Gibt es bei Ihnen jemanden, dem der Name "Eppich" etwas sagt????
- 80.129.141.134 - Sunday, February 16, 2003 at 08:23:31 (UTC)

Jenny Podborsek:
Hi Jim, Greetings from downunder. Is this Franz schmuck related to us?
- 203.123.64.150 - Sunday, February 16, 2003 at 12:06:23 (UTC)

Ridy Hoegler Skyrme:
An Waldow ~
Ich habe Verwandte, Namens Eppich, an beiden Seiten meiner Familie. Sie stammen aus der Pfarre Ebental und der Stadt Gottschee. Weitere Auskunft bei ridy@sympatico.ca
- 64.229.237.55 - Sunday, February 16, 2003 at 12:18:16 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Jenny, up to this point, Franz, is not related to your line. Still possible. Glad to hear from you. How are things in Australia? What is the weather like this time of the year? It has been unseasonably and unreasonably cold in the northeast section of New Jersey.
- 205.188.208.43 - Sunday, February 16, 2003 at 14:29:15 (UTC)

Ridy:
Helmuth - I hope this brings a smile to your face! The last four messages on this page come from Hamburg, Germany, somewhere in far-off Australia, Toronto, Canada, and New Jersey,U.S.A. . . . where else but on the Internet is that possible? Deo gratias, and to you as well, of course!
- 64.229.237.55 - Sunday, February 16, 2003 at 18:47:47 (UTC)

Trix:
Ridy, can we add Minnesota to that impressive list? Yes, Helmuth, we all echo Ridy's sentiments - Danke, Danke, Danke.
- 216.251.169.46 - Sunday, February 16, 2003 at 19:19:13 (UTC)

Gerhard:
Liebe US Freunde im Plauderzimmer!

Möchte Euch zum Erfolg bei der Heute zu Ende gegangenen Schi-WM in St. Moritz gratulieren.
Ich hoffe die Erfolge von Bode Miller und Erik Schlopy haben bei Euch in den USA das Interesse an diesem Sport geweckt.
Liebe Grüße aus dem derzeit Scheeweißen Österreich
Gerhard
- 62.218.2.99 - Sunday, February 16, 2003 at 19:35:03 (UTC)

Trix:
Gerhard: Danke für Deine Nachricht. Ja, wir sind stolz auf unsere Schifahrer. Ja, wie wir höhren habt Ihr viel Schnee. In Minnesota gibt es heuer wenig aber es ist sehr kalt. Herzliche Grüße und besuche uns wieder mal.

Bist Du Gottscheer Abstammung?
- 216.251.169.46 - Sunday, February 16, 2003 at 21:36:58 (UTC)

jenny p:
Not much news here. We are hoping to travel to Slovenia this year if Miros health holds . Well funny about the weather! its been a really blazing hot summer here now we are settling into more reasonable round 28degrees.
- 203.123.64.150 - Sunday, February 16, 2003 at 23:48:09 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hello. Seeing if anyone has checked in yet.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 01:39:31 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Hope everyone is well and warm. Very chilly in KCMO.
- 66.140.94.125 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 02:17:21 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Waldow: Hope this gets on line. My Tante Leni Jonke from Mahopac, NY, was Eppich before she married my uncle. Don't know much else. She was from Kumerdorf (old name). My father was Leopold Jonke also of Kumerdorf. He passed away several years ago.
- 66.140.94.125 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 02:20:25 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Kind of slow tonight. Werner: ARe you going to log on tonight? Try to get Eddie on.
- 66.140.94.125 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 02:28:30 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Must log off. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 66.140.94.125 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 02:32:24 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Sharon : I Spoke again to my parents today. I received the photo. I'll print it and show my Tante Emma. Your mom had another sister in Michigan who married a Kump and then a Novak. I believe here first name was Francis.
- 205.188.209.51 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 02:36:49 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Any other New York Gotrtscheers online tonight?
- 205.188.209.107 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 02:38:52 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi Frank. You mean my Grandmother. That probably explains one photo I have. My Grandmother and the woman beside her look a like.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 02:40:11 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
A snowy hello from New Jersey.
- 205.188.209.138 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 02:57:40 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hello Jim
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 02:59:05 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
Hi,

I am doing an imigration paper for my history class and me and my mom have traced are hieratige back to the Gottschee's. (My mom's madain name is Kofler)

On my report I am asked a few questions:

1. Who was the first person to come to the United States?
2. Why did they come?
3. When did they come?
4. What problems did they face when arriving? (language, finding a place to work, friends, ect.)
5.What was there occupation when they first arrived?
6. What kind of traditions are still in use today?
and last but not least...
7. I need to make a meal for my class, something easy that i could give a sample size to each student. Something from the culture that doesn't take that much work or preperation. Also something that teenage students wouldn't mind trying!!!

Thanks so much, Aloha,
Jessica Rogers:)
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:06:12 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
is anyone on this chat room?
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:08:49 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hello Jessica. I have a Kofler in my family tree.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:10:42 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
If you have anything would you please email it to me at
Thyblondie518@wmconnect.com
Thanks so much, Aloha:
Jessica Rogers:)
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:10:53 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
what is the first name?
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:11:18 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Maria. She married Johann Eisenzopf sometime before 1820's
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:12:28 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
Joseph or Paul?
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:13:15 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Johann
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:13:42 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I haven't traced any further back yet. That is my next assignment for the family tree.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:14:34 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
my mom did all this research on it!!! She goes back till like 1700's
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:17:56 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
sorry bounced away to do some looking at Ellis Island.
- 205.188.209.80 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:17:58 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I am also doing all the research for my family
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:18:42 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hi, Jessica. Is your mom, Marianne? Did she find the information helpful?
- 205.188.209.169 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:18:53 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
jim have you emailed my mom? Marianne Rogers (kofler)
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:19:18 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
yup it is you pretty cool!!!
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:19:38 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
very helpful she is so extatic about all this information!!! did she send you her information?
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:20:27 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Jim Do you have any records on Maria Eisenzopf B. 2 Nov 1882. She would be my Great Aunt and was wondering if she married and had family.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:20:43 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
Jim do you think you could help me on this!!! Please!!!

Hi,

I am doing an imigration paper for my history class and me and my mom have traced are hieratige back to the Gottschee's. (My mom's madain name is Kofler)

On my report I am asked a few questions:

1. Who was the first person to come to the United States?
2. Why did they come?
3. When did they come?
4. What problems did they face when arriving? (language, finding a place to work, friends, ect.)
5.What was there occupation when they first arrived?
6. What kind of traditions are still in use today?
and last but not least...
7. I need to make a meal for my class, something easy that i could give a sample size to each student. Something from the culture that doesn't take that much work or preperation. Also something that teenage students wouldn't mind trying!!!

Thanks so much, Aloha,
Jessica Rogers:)

- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:21:22 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I think you should do your paper on why most Gottscheers left their homeland.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:22:26 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
i am looking threw all my mom's papers and we have so many that are in gottschee!!! I can't understand a word!!!
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:22:57 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Jessica, I sent your mom a family file going back to the 1700s. She also sent me some questions. I could answer some but not others. Perhaps she did not open the file yet. Ask her to check her email. It should be there. If not, I can resend it.
- 205.188.209.43 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:23:21 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
i wish i could but I got to answer all these questions for my repoert due on Friday!!!
Sharron would you by chance have any recipes that are gotschee that is easy and appatising to make?
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:24:48 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
thanks i will do that!!!
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:25:24 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Your mom had quite a bit more information to work from than most people. I guess those are the papers that you are talking about. I will try to answer some of your questions but I am not an expert. Others may be able to help out more.
- 205.188.209.138 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:25:38 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Jessica I would love to help you with your assignment. My Grandparents came to Canada. Thats where I live. I'll email you the answers. I wrote them down. Also check out the history on the web site GHGA. It has detailed history of the land and its people. I printed it out and it was 40 pages long.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:30:03 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
The first Gottscheers came over in the latter part of the 1800s. They scattered to many places but some of the earliest ones went to the midwest (Iowa, Minnesota), Cleveland, New York, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Norwood (Mass.), Alabama. The reason they emigrated were mostly economic for the early immigrants. They went into farming, mining, and factory work. Others were carpenters. The women, I think, were mostly domestic servants and maids.
- 205.188.209.5 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:30:19 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hello my second cousin.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:30:29 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
thanks so much sharon!!! I really appreciate it!!!
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:31:16 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Your ggf, Heinrich, must have come over before 1925 because he was married in the All Saint's Church in that year.
- 205.188.209.77 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:31:18 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Later emigrations occurred into the early 1900s both before and after World War l. Again economics played a large part but the integration of Gottschee into Yugoslavia probably had a part in it. After World War ll, there was the last large influx in the early to mid 1950s.
- 205.188.209.108 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:32:52 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I am sure that language was a problem but many Gottscheers settled in areas that contained other Gottscheers. There were sections of each place that contained a large percentage of Gottscheers like Ridgewood in New York or the Platt area of Cleveland.
- 205.188.209.51 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:34:32 (UTC)

Jessica Rogers:
was my ggm a gottscheer-mary stalzer
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:34:50 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
As far as traditions are concerned -- I am not a good one for that one. My family did not stay close to the Gottscheer community so I would only be guessing. Sharon's suggestion about other online sites is a good one.
- 205.188.208.134 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:35:32 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
yes, she was. Did you locate the file that I sent your mom?
- 205.188.208.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:35:55 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Hello Sharon:
I'm having a little trouble figuring out the dates and time on this board. I'm in New York. Its 2/16/03 22:36 Hours. wheree
- 205.188.209.171 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:37:02 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I added the history from the web site as part of family tree files so that later on generations have an idea of their history.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:37:14 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
WE'RE going to receive 1 to 2 feet of snow in the next 24 hours.
- 205.188.208.167 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:37:56 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
the time stands for Greenwiche time right Jim. Don't go by that time.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:38:15 (UTC)

Marianne Rogers:
Hi Jim - It's Marianne. Just walked in the door.
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:38:31 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Which web site?
- 205.188.208.135 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:38:53 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Frank Ernie is my second cousin. Ida and Him still come here every summer and spent a month at their cabin.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:39:13 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Its the main web site for GHGA
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:40:08 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hi, Marianne. Your daughter is fast at work on her paper. I just forwarded the file with the information to her. Were you able to open it up? It is in text format. Unfortunately, I can't help on the traditions or the cooking. Apple strudel is one traditional dessert that the students would like but it is not an easy thing to make.
- 205.188.209.104 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:40:16 (UTC)

Marianne Rogers:
Did not open the file you sent because e-mail address is work address.
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:40:35 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Thanks for the clarification on the time.
- 205.188.209.16 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:40:39 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Sharon, I think you are correct about the time. It is now 10:39 or so in New Jersey.
- 205.188.209.139 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:41:26 (UTC)

Marianne Rogers:
will try to open file - be back...
- 198.81.18.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:41:34 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I just resent it to your daughter at her email address. Should be easy to open. If not, tell me & I will try to get it to you in some other manner.
- 205.188.209.165 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:42:17 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Sharon:Can anyone view this family tree?
- 205.188.208.136 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:42:30 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Yeah I remember awhile ago we all had that conversation about the time and dear Helmunt told us what it meant.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:43:08 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I haven't done one on the Kotniks yet. Just the Eisenzopf. Part of it is on at Ancestry.com
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:44:05 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Sharon: I'll check it out.
- 205.188.209.16 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:45:27 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Mom and Dad say that I'm just like Grandma Agnes.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:45:58 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Any other New York Gottscheers out there?
- 205.188.209.44 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:46:00 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Well alot of the Kotnik,s don,t fall far from the tree. I'm alot like both of my grandfathers. So much so it's spooky.
- 205.188.208.167 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:47:53 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Frank, exNew Yorker, now in NJ. Grew up on Gates Avenue.
- 205.188.208.103 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:48:20 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
NEW YORK WILL RECEIVE 1 to 2 FEET OF SNOW IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
- 205.188.208.10 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:48:54 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
When it comes to money I inheirent Grandma's ability to save money and not spend it.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:49:52 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
HI JIM: Well we're all still in Glendale. Holding the fort.
- 205.188.209.134 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:49:57 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
keep the snow I want warmer weather
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:50:15 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
The word is SCHPURIN.
- 205.188.209.9 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:50:46 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Ernie has a brother who still lives in Austria. They came here one summer. I didn't meet him, but Mom and Dad did. I don't know what his name was.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:51:25 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
I was there. He's my 1st Uncle Walter and he has a son named Harold who is my first Cousin. Check your E-mail.
- 205.188.209.165 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:53:29 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
ok
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:53:49 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
We never made it into the rarified air of Glendale. The furthest north I got was in Bushwick just south of the el. After the apartment house burned down, my parents moved to Catalpa by St. Matt's for a while.
- 205.188.208.73 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:54:18 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
A Kotnik note ---- some of them are listed as being born in Libsen or Lipsejn, Austria. Don't know where that is but that is most likely where that side of the family originated.
- 205.188.208.167 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:56:04 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Jim: Which schools did you attend and when?
- 205.188.209.51 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:56:20 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Harold must be about 24 years old now.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:56:38 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Thanks for the tip.
- 205.188.209.11 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:57:30 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Something like that. Maybe 21.
- 205.188.208.8 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:58:09 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
St. Brigid's from about 1960 to 1970, and then Regis from 1970-1974.
- 205.188.209.37 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 03:59:44 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Uncle Walter just did some major renovations and added an addition to the house. This house was built after the war by my grandfather Alois my father and Uncles. It's a stone throw from Stift Rein. It's really beautiful there.
- 205.188.209.135 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:01:02 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
we have photos that Mom took when they were up lakes with Walter and Harold. Mom is going to find them and I'll send it to you.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:01:34 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Frank, are your the son of Franz born 1933? If so, send me your email address. Sharon should have mine so you can get it from her. I don't have much on the Kotniks but the Hutters will have more depth.
- 205.188.209.172 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:01:45 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
I went to St Pancras 65 -73 and the to Thomas A. Edison 74-78. Looks like you got e4 years on me.
- 205.188.209.7 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:02:41 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Just sent the email address
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:03:53 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Sounds about right. Where is St. Pancras located?
- 205.188.209.107 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:04:00 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Thanks, Sharon.
- 205.188.209.176 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:04:17 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Frank Do you have the map of Katzendorf?
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:04:55 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Sharon, Frank, Jessica, and Marianne --- time to sign off. Have to get up early and see if I can make my way to work through all this snow.
- 205.188.209.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:05:05 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Yes he changed his name to Frank while serving in Korea.gcopblacksmith@aol
- 205.188.209.139 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:05:17 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
As I recall, Ernie served in the 2nd war for the States.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:06:34 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
GODNIGHT JIM:
- 205.188.209.78 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:06:37 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Guten nacht Jim
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:07:28 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
I don't have a map of KLatzendorf.
- 205.188.209.75 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:07:47 (UTC)

Herb Hutter:
tuant doe pattlaroe noch raffn bei eich in new york
- 216.214.13.67 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:08:02 (UTC)

Marianne Rogers:
i just looked at the file thanks
- 198.81.26.134 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:08:27 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I'll find it and send you a copy. It just shows the house numbers. Someone drew it.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:08:34 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
House #1 says Kotnik. Mom told me that Grandpa used to walk from Hohenegg to her village about 2Km apart.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:10:22 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
HI HERB:JOIN THE GOTTSCHHER CIVILIAN OBSERVATION PATROL.www.g-cop.org
- 205.188.209.106 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:10:37 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Sharon; Thats correct. I recall looking down to Katzendorf from Hoenegg when I was there in 80.
- 205.188.208.74 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:11:59 (UTC)

Marianne Rogers:
The file was so neat. It's amazing all the info on it. Thank you for the map - it would be great to have it.
- 198.81.26.173 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:12:11 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
did you take alot of pictures of the area?
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:12:34 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Sharon: The Kotniks I believe came from Katzendorf. And my grandfather Alois married Maria Hutter vov Neu Friesach.
- 205.188.208.42 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:14:09 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I have a picture of Franz Hutter that is from his funeral. I found it in Grandma's pictures.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:15:10 (UTC)

Marianne Rogers:
Frank - I was born and raised and went to St. Pancras in Glendale.
- 198.81.27.13 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:17:09 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
I'm a picture taking fool. And prety good at it. I've got to buy a scanner so I can send some of those photos from the 80's. Yes, I took alot of photos in Gottschee.
- 205.188.209.48 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:17:10 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I'm going to have to find all the Kotnik's pictures and send them to you. I have on of Uncle Tony (Anton Jr.). His son lives here. One of these days I'll have to squeeze him for info he remembers.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:17:19 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I use HP ScanJet3400C. Believe me its easy to use.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:18:12 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Marianne: When did you go to Pancras?
- 205.188.209.101 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:18:20 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Franz Hutter was my great grandfather. I'd like to see it.
- 205.188.208.138 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:19:17 (UTC)

Marianne Rogers:
1965-1972
- 198.81.26.202 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:19:59 (UTC)

Marianne Rogers:
Frank - My dad and mom used to own the Central Bar & Grill on Central Ave, near 65th St. Lots of bars in Glendale
- 198.81.26.205 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:21:20 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I need I would find out why I have it.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:21:23 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
that should have read I knew.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:21:36 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Well I went from 65 -73. I was an alter boy and choir boy. I don't recall your name. I'm still in contact with Mario Schaller & Joe Steine.
- 205.188.208.71 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:22:15 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Picture is on its way
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:23:14 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:

- 205.188.208.169 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:24:28 (UTC)

Marianne Rogers:
Maybe I went from 64 to 72 graduated Grover Cleveland 76.
My sister Charlotte Kofler was a year behind me - maybe you know her?
- 198.81.26.206 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:25:31 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Hey Marianne: I Rogers you maiden or married name?
- 205.188.208.167 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:25:40 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Sharon; Thanks for the pics.
- 205.188.208.10 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:26:14 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Marianne:I'm friends with Richie, Johnnie and Heide Kofler and their cousins Elie and Anita.
- 205.188.208.101 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:28:59 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Ok and I am forwarding hopefully the map, let me know if the maps are attached to the message.
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:29:14 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Thanks Sharon. Let me look out the Vonzstur and see how high the Schnerb ist.
- 205.188.208.108 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:31:06 (UTC)

Marianne Rogers:
I got to go cook dinner. 6:30 Hawaii time. Thanks for helping Jessica, Sharon. Looking forward to getting pic of Katzendorf.

Frank, check out www.glendaleny.com if you haven't already.

- 198.81.26.232 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:31:11 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Looks like 3 inches
- 205.188.209.10 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:32:02 (UTC)

Marianne Rogers:
Frank - never heard of those Kofler's you mentioned. We're probably related if they live in Glendale/Ridgewood. Small world.
- 198.81.26.235 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:32:51 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Herb; Do you know what a Vonstur is? Hows my Gottscharbarisch?
- 205.188.209.106 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:33:22 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
SharonI guess it just you and I right now.
- 205.188.208.166 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:36:11 (UTC)

Herb Hutter:
frank its passable,did you understand what i said earlyer about the pattlaroe tuant raffn?
- 216.214.13.67 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:36:16 (UTC)

Herb Hutter:
frank did you mean feinstr?
- 216.214.13.67 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:38:03 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Sharon: I'm going to turn in for the night. I'll talk to you again.Thanks and Gurtenocht. Do you know how to speak Gottscherbarish?
- 205.188.209.171 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:38:51 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
no I don't
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:39:24 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Herb : I believe you meant the patrol is fighting.
- 205.188.209.141 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:40:02 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Good night Frank
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:40:12 (UTC)

Herb Hutter:
Frank, actually when it was snowing real hard we used to
say "the beggars are brawling" Pattlaroe? tuant raffn.
- 216.214.13.67 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:43:42 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Sharon; Window in German is Fenster. In Gottscharbarish phonetically it sounds like Vonzstur. And Snow = Schee = Scherb. I got throw out of German School. I'm not a linguist or the best speller but if I have a few adult liquid refreshments and have the right company I can talk Gottascheerbarisch like a birdie.
- 205.188.209.105 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:45:23 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Herb: How is everything. Are you guys going to get blanketed also?
- 205.188.209.101 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:47:19 (UTC)

Herb Hutter:
frank only an inch or so .thats all we can handle
- 216.214.13.67 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:48:35 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Frank did the map come through?
- 199.243.153.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:50:15 (UTC)

Herb Hutter:
frank only an inch or so .thats all we can handle
- 216.214.13.67 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 04:56:57 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Sharon:I downloaded the map & image of my great gradfather but can get them to print. I printed the other image.
- 205.188.208.38 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 05:04:32 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Your in Penn and only getting an inch?
- 205.188.209.76 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 05:05:28 (UTC)

Herb Hutter:
We are in ohio, Cleveland area, enjoy the Schneab, and a guatei nocht
- 216.214.13.67 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 05:13:55 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Your in Penn and only getting an inch?
- 205.188.209.76 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 05:47:15 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Is this Blizzard in N.Y. going to make the plauderzimmer busy today,since, I believe noone is going to work? Ilived in glendale and Ridgewood from 1940 to 1952-My wife Adeline Jaklitsch was born and raised there. Anyone know the candy store on Cooper ave., corner of 64th Lane? Welcome to the latest newcomers to the Plauderzimmer-you will enjoy every minute you spend with the greatest people.
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 19:06:29 (UTC)

Gerhard:
Grüß Dich Trix,
meine Gottscheer Abstammung ist folgend.
Mein Großvater Josef Samide ist 1864 in Schalkendorf, Gottschee geboren und ca 1882 nach Österreich gegangen.
Liebe Grüße aus Östereich
Gerhard

- 62.218.159.213 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 19:39:32 (UTC)

Trix:
Grüß Dich auch Gerhard. Danke für das Schreiben. Wo, in Österreich wohnst Du? Ich bin in Kärnten, Nähe Villach auf gewachsen. Warst Du schon mal in Schalkendorf? Es ist noch ein schönes Dorf.

Ich höhre Ihr habt viel Schnee. Auch in Gottschee ist es sehr weiß.

Bitte schreib wieder mal. Bist Du bekannt mit anderen Gottscheer? Möchte gerne in Verbindung sein. Vielleichst kannst Du mir mal andere Name schicken? Danke.

Herzliche Grüße an Dich und die Deinen.

Or

I greet you too Gerhard. Thank you for your writing. Where, in Austria do you live? I grew up in Kärnten, near Villach (a city). Have you been to Schalkendorf? It is still a beautiful village.

I hear you have lots of snow. Also in Gottschee they have much of the white stuff.

Please write again. Do you know of any other Gottscheers? I would love to get in touch with them. Maybe you could mail me some names. Thank you.

Sincere greetings to you and yours.

NOT PERFECT BUT GOOD ENOUGH, I hope.

- 209.240.245.157 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 21:48:08 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi everybody. Enjoy the day especially you New Yorkers and New Jerseyers? I feel for you - been there, done that but am grateful not in Minnesota as of yet. I am knocking on wood as I write these words.

CALLING ALL GOTTSCHEERS who actively participate or are silent visitors - THINK ABOUT YOUR GOTTSCHEER HERITAGE and take the time to write them down. They may be your own memories, those of your parents, grandparents etc. You will not regret it I guarantee it.

Just keep it simple. Start with your name, where and when born, the name of your parents; describe your family, your house, your village, your traditions, the work, the school, the celebrations and holidays etc etc etc

When done please share them. It makes wonderful reading not only for those of us born there but also for those who are yearning to hear and learn more about their Gottscheer ancestors and heritage. We have quite a story to share with others. PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT.

Questions? Write wyants@mlecmn.net.

DANKE, DANKE, DANKE.
- 209.240.245.157 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 21:49:53 (UTC)

Trix:
See what you started Paul? Good for you! Lets hope for some success!
- 209.240.245.157 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 21:50:35 (UTC)

Trix:
Can anyone tell me where I could obtain a copy of the December 1941 Gottscheer Resettlement list which departed from the railroad stations in either Schemitsch (Semic) or Tschernembl (Crnomelj). I believe the train took us to Rann first. I would appreciate it. THANK YOU.
- 209.240.245.157 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 21:57:59 (UTC)

Trix:
And finally-- I learned on Saturday that there is an excellent possibility that the ship, USNS Gen. Muir, which brought my parents and I, along with approximately 1,000 immigrants from Bremerhafen, Germany to our new homeland in America in April (arriving in NY on the 26th) 1952 unloaded at Pier 61 on the Hudson River, NY.

Does anyone know if the this Pier is still standing and whether or not photos are available? Would be a great addition to my memoirs.

Danke in advance. This is exciting!

- 209.240.245.157 - Monday, February 17, 2003 at 22:01:36 (UTC)

jenny p:
Hi everyone, Now i know why you are all talking about the weather, I just saw the snow on tv news. Its difficult to comprehend so much white. We have it cold in winter but never snow, it looks fantastic
- 203.123.64.150 - Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 00:01:36 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
We only have 25 inches in Glendale, New York
- 152.163.189.232 - Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 01:27:20 (UTC)

Herb Hutter:
Hi everybody, I said last night we could only handle one inch but we got six inches Instead here in Cleveland.
Carefull out there!
- 209.81.206.193 - Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 01:41:32 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Sorry i could not join you tonite-had neighbors on both sides of me come in for Coffee and coco amd of course kahlua..Glad you all had some time together..have a good week everyone.Praying for you trix that if you do get snow it won't be as much as we got here....Good night...
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 04:17:02 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I remember the good old days when winter was like what it is in New York.
- 199.243.152.85 - Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 04:48:28 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hey Sharon-how are you? i can remember diving into snow drifts that were high enough to bury us kids in our own back yardAnd they really were the good old days...
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 05:07:44 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I remember jumping off our deck into the snow pile that we made from the snow off the deck. About 6 years ago, the end of our driveway where the banks were, were so high that we couldn't see over them when backing out of the yard, and we drive 1/2 ton trucks.
- 199.243.152.18 - Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 06:39:56 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Sharon, Sounds like you're in the trucking business-that's what we do-aint easy in this weather!
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 18:21:58 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hello everyone. I have not been around the computer on Sunday night the last 2-3 weeks and have missed the Sunday night chats. Returned home from Minnesota on Monday night. And I just wanted everyone to know that we have about 8 wonderful inches of snow this morning in Canon City. Everything including the trees and fences are layered with snow. It will be beautiful when the sun comes out later today. We have needed this kind of a wet snow for a long time. Of course is is only a drop in the bucket for all the moisture we still need, to survive the summer. But is is a start. I know you folks on the east coast are tired of snow, but we want more, more, more out here.
- 64.12.96.71 - Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 13:23:09 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Marilu: I can send you a couple of truck loads right off my own property out front!! Enjoy your scenery-must look beautiful--take pictures-I did....
- 24.184.120.186 - Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 15:22:52 (UTC)

Ridy:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, TRIX!
Hoch soll sie leben, hoch soll sie leben, dreimal hoch!
Aus as güte!
- 64.229.235.195 - Friday, February 21, 2003 at 13:10:34 (UTC)

Trix:
When I received 3 birthday greetings from people who would not know about it, just had to check the Plauderzimmer. Ridy, DANKE. Yup, I have done a lot of living during these 67 years and enjoyed it all.

To you all - enjoy the day.
- 209.240.237.164 - Friday, February 21, 2003 at 13:49:28 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Happy Birthday Trix!!!
- 205.188.208.71 - Friday, February 21, 2003 at 14:03:26 (UTC)

Irene:
Trix.

Happy Birthday!!!May you have much happiness through out the year.
- 24.195.44.139 - Friday, February 21, 2003 at 15:30:45 (UTC)

Russell:
Happy Birthday Trix!
- 205.188.208.11 - Friday, February 21, 2003 at 20:34:41 (UTC)

Paul B.:
TRIX: A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU FROM ADIE AND ME. TAKE A REAL DEEP BREATH BEFORE BLOWING THOSE CANDLES OUT...I WILL NEED A TORNADO TO BLOW MINE OUT NEXT MONTH! eNJOY YOUR DAY AND THE BEST TO YOU IN THE MANY YEARS TO COME...
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, February 21, 2003 at 22:19:01 (UTC)

pat:
Happy Birthday Trix

- 65.128.204.130 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 13:16:21 (UTC)

pat:
Trix, will be one year that my husband has passed, and his birthday will be feb. 24, would of been 55, its been a sad year, they say life goes on, but we sure do miss him,
- 65.128.204.130 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 13:18:26 (UTC)

pat:
my daughter turned sweet 16 on feb 19, she had a nice birthday,hope to do some traveling with her this year

- 65.128.204.130 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 13:19:49 (UTC)

pat:
talking to my sister, the one that lives in ridgewood,queens, she and my niece go there quite often
- 65.128.204.130 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 13:21:05 (UTC)

pat:
she wants me to do some research of my fathers brother supposedly in drowned in a well in gottshee krain, have to find out more about it and maybe u can help me...talk to again soon
- 65.128.204.130 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 13:22:03 (UTC)

Trix:
Pat, just great to hear from you. Yes, life goes on but not without enormous sadness and pain. But, they tell me, you will be stronger for it. I send you many hugs.
And yes, do keep me informed about the drowning in Gottschee. That would be interesting for all of us.
Take care of yourself and greet your daughter.
- 209.240.245.83 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 16:20:44 (UTC)

Rich and Nettie Sider:
Enjoyed the plauderzimmer.Hi Paul and Adie.Haven't been on the Zimmer for quite a while.We down in Florida feel for all you who suffering from the white stuff. Hello also to Trix and happy belated birthday
- 64.158.52.160 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 16:37:23 (UTC)

Gerhard:
Grüß Dich Trix,
zuerst ebenfalls herzliche Glückwünsche zum Geburtstag. Bleib Gesund.
Ich war leider noch nie in der Gottschee, habe daher keine Ahnung wie es dort aussieht. (Ausgnommen Fotos aus dem Internet und Ridys "Memories of Childhood".
Weitere Gottscheer kenne ich nur aus dem Internet und dem Plauderzimmer.
Mit Ridy und Doc Jim habe Kontakt.
Ich wohne in Amstetten, dies ist ca 45 km östlich Linz.

Leider kenne ich niemand in meiner Umgebung niemand der aus der Gottschee stammt.

Lebe Grüße gerhard

- 62.218.159.239 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 17:01:38 (UTC)

Trix:
Gerhard: Danke für Dein Schreiben und die guten Wünsche. Habe mich sehr gefreut darüber Danke. Ich denke Du wohnst nicht weit weg von Altheim? Dort war im Jahre 1945 ein großes Amerikanisches Gefängnislager wo die Deutsch Soldate waren. Bist Du bekannt von diesen?
Wünsche Dir alles, alles Gute. Fahr doch mal nach Gottschee. Es ist herrlich dort.
- 209.240.245.83 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 18:30:32 (UTC)

Trix:
Gerhard: Thank yo for your mail and the good wishes. I was happy to receive them. Thank you. I am thinking you may not live all that far from Altheim. In 1945 there was a hug American prisoner of war camp there where the German soldier were held. Do go to Gottschee sometime - it is beautiful there. (May not be perfect translation but close enough, I hople).
- 209.240.245.83 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 18:32:36 (UTC)

Trix:
And finally....I am looking for Gottscheer who were born in der alten Heimat in the great year of 1936. If that includes you please send me a note giving name, date and place of birth. Would be fun to correspond with another. Pass this on to your friends who may not computers. My e-mail: wyants@mlecmn.net. Born Feb. 21 in Peikeis near Tschermoschnitz. Thank you - Danke - Dunk schean.
- 209.240.245.83 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 18:34:06 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hi everyone-Wish you all a pleasant weekend. Nettie And Richie, it was so nice to see you on tne PZ---welcome abourde (sp?) Trix-your Birthday is still going around-great--see how many people love you! Weather is not so good here, but just dropped Adie off at the hair dresser anyway---She didn't think she was beautiful enough to go out to dinner last nite-so I guess we will tonite. Enjoy the chat tonite-hope I can make it in reasonable time.....
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 20:23:16 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Rich-Just remembered how to spell aboard--I guess i was having a senior moment!!!!!!!!!!!!! So what else is new?
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 20:43:00 (UTC)

Herb H.:
Trix, Happy belated Birthday!
1936 was a good Year, I was born in seele, Gottschee,
again an gluecklichen Gebuortztog.

- 209.81.205.114 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 20:46:38 (UTC)

pat:
trix,my fathers mother left two little boys on the other side, gottschee krain, in the care of a woman she trusted i guess they were toddlers, and fell in he well and drowed, anyone with info on this please let me know, the spelling would be stonitsch...appreciate feed back...don't know what year, talk to ya later
- 65.128.204.196 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 22:20:26 (UTC)

Trix:
Thanks Herb. Way to go. Glad to know that you were born in that vintage year too. Would be fun to get a newsletter going. We could share whatever either we personally remember of Gottschee or what our parents or grandparents may have us. Your thoughts? Could be fun, you know.
- 209.240.237.142 - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 22:45:28 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Boy-Talk about senior moments-I had a doozie of one when I mantioned the chat for tonite--I thought today was Sunday! Maybe I should take a sedative instead of Kahlua? Maybe I will be in better shape Sunday nite...Good noght all.....
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, February 23, 2003 at 04:57:05 (UTC)

Paul B.:
I just read my mesage-Whew-what mistakes in spelling-I'm taking two aspirin and calling you in the morning!
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, February 23, 2003 at 04:59:30 (UTC)

Trix:
Got to tell you Paul - you are great. Love your messages. You are not the only one who thought yesterday was Sunday.
In fact I forgot all about the mail. That's a must, you know. At 2 p.m. I started to haul our firewood, looked up and saw the flag on the mailbox back (we live in the country, you know) and wondered why. Thought about it for a minute and realized that it was Saturday and NOT Sunday.
Paul: You did NOT have a senior moment - you had an INTELLECTUAL INTERUPTIION.
Enjoy a good day and lets try to chat tonight.
- 209.240.245.131 - Sunday, February 23, 2003 at 11:37:07 (UTC)

Trix:
Edith - Greetings to you and yours. Thank you for your messages. Will respond shortly. Loved the card - Danke, Danke and noch einmal Danke.
Herzliche Grüße liebe Freundin.
- 209.240.245.131 - Sunday, February 23, 2003 at 11:38:10 (UTC)

Gerhard:
Trix, ich wohne nicht in der Nähe von Altheim.
Wo ist Altheim? Kannst Du mir das näher beschreiben?
Meine Heimatort ist Amstetten in Niederösterreich in der Nähe der Donau.
Liebe Grüße, Gerhard
- 62.218.152.16 - Sunday, February 23, 2003 at 18:03:50 (UTC)

Trix:
Altheim ist in Öberösterreich Nähe der Grenze mit Bayern.
Servus.
- 209.240.237.176 - Sunday, February 23, 2003 at 19:55:02 (UTC)

Russell:
Time is now 8PM on the Eeat coast.
1AM GMT
- 152.163.189.132 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 01:00:47 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Snowing in KCMO. We wlecome the snow. Our drought has been very severe. Only 2 to 3 inches, but better than nothing. Hope everyone had a good week.
- 64.218.109.149 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:24:25 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Is anyone around to chat tonite?
- 152.163.188.232 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:25:18 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Trix: So sorry to be late with my birthday wishes for you. Better late than never. I also was born in 1936. That was a real good year. Also, set some weather records for heat that June, when I was born. A memorable year.
- 64.218.109.149 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:29:58 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hi, Margaret and Marilu. Are you still on?
- 152.163.188.230 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:32:14 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Jim: Yes. I'm still on for a little while. How are things in your neck of the woods? SNowing here in KCMO. We welcome it.
- 64.218.109.149 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:33:50 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
It got warmer for a bit but a cold snap came back today.
- 152.163.189.129 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:34:35 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guess I will log off. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 64.218.109.149 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:35:28 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I was in Denver for a meeting on Saturday. They are having a terrible drought. Everything was brown and not a flake of snow on the ground. They did get a dusting Saturday night.
- 152.163.188.165 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:35:38 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Margaret, have a good night.
- 152.163.189.103 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:36:00 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Hi Jim, I am checking in between the bookwork. I spent most of the catching up on my sleep. That is a switch for me. But I have a cold, and the trip to Minnesota wore me out.
- 152.163.189.133 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:36:19 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, I am only 120 miles from Denver. Next time let me know. Maybe we can meet.
- 152.163.188.33 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:37:08 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Has the drought affected you as well? It looked terrible in Denver.
- 152.163.189.203 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:39:59 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I forgot about your closeness to Denver but I got in on Friday, had the meeting all day Saturday, and then caught the first plane out this am.
- 152.163.189.170 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:40:37 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
We ate at the hotel which is on the outskirts of Denver but did get into town for the Comedy Works club on Saturday night. The small section of town that I saw looked nice.
- 152.163.188.4 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:41:43 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Jim, It does not look any better here in Canon City. We got 6 inches of snow Tuesday night, and the ground soaked it up in 24 hours.
- 152.163.188.197 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:42:17 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
The rest of the land looked very parched. A few weeks of rain probably wouldn't put a dent in it.
- 152.163.189.198 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:42:33 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
What side of Denver were you on?
- 152.163.188.5 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:42:59 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
What are the forecasters saying about the drought? I was surprised by the severity.
- 152.163.188.5 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:43:15 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
We stayed at the Loews Giorgio. Don't know what side that is on but the hotel windows faced the Rockies. The Comedy Club was located, I guess, nearer to the downtown area.
- 152.163.188.5 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:44:24 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
We need 5 years of above average moisture to catch up. The reserviors are all low, and that is where the drinking water comes from.
- 152.163.188.231 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:44:33 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
NJ was in a drought situation last year but the reservoirs are now all full. Part of the problem is the number of people in the area and the continued development. The water supply is not infinite and the developers/ municipalities should figure that out at some time.
- 152.163.188.6 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:46:25 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Denver and Colo Springs have the population problem also. But we just plain have not had much rain or snow for about 3-4 years now.
- 152.163.189.168 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:48:59 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
That is what I figured. Your problem is not so much the consumption. It just isn't coming down from the skies.
- 152.163.189.131 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:50:15 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I probably won't be getting back to Denver for the forseeable future. The weekend meeting was coupled with a symposium at Snowmass but I could not get to the mountains because of scheduling conflicts at work.
- 152.163.188.168 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:52:15 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
I was joking to my cousin in Missouri tonite, that Colorado is seeding the clouds and Missouri is getting all the rain. The Branson area got about a foot of snow again today.
- 152.163.189.100 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:52:16 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Do you ski? I haven't hit the slopes for over twenty years. And I do mean -- hit the slopes --- because I hit them more often than I stayed up on the skis. I would have liked to have taken lessons.
- 152.163.188.228 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:53:20 (UTC)

:
Jim, get on skies and head for the slopes. You will like it!
- 172.150.88.123 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:54:55 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
NO Jim, I do not ski. I like my bones all in one piece. my kids like to ski, tho. At least, I should say my sons do. And their kids. I roller skate, and try to ice skates when my ankles will let me. thats about it for me.
- 152.163.189.170 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:56:43 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Thank you for the skiing plug. Linda can not ski because of the neck injury a couple of years ago so I don't think I will get much opportunity to pursue it. It does look like fun.
- 152.163.188.228 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:58:02 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I will stick to working out, occasional basketball, and scuba diving/snorkeling.
- 152.163.189.204 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 02:58:59 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
Hi friends, how are you?
- 172.150.88.123 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:01:44 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
My biggest sport is walking, and I do lots of that. I wonder where everyone is tonite. I am beginning to think no one shows up when I am here!
- 152.163.188.4 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:02:29 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Well, Franz I spoke to soon. Nice to see you.
- 152.163.188.164 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:03:05 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hi, Franz. So it was you that was the mystery guest before advising me to "schilaufen gehen".
- 152.163.189.70 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:03:26 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
How are things going with you in the Windy City? I would bet that you have been out on the slopes recently.

- 152.163.189.65 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:04:08 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
All you have to do is speak of snow and ski and I am game.
- 172.150.88.123 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:04:55 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
It must be a case of you can take the boy out of the mountains but not the mountains out of the boy. Perhaps in my next life I will go skiing. Does your wife ski as well?
- 152.163.189.235 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:07:56 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
Jim, no snow around the Windy City. I can't remember a winter like this, no snow at all to speak of. I was in Montana after Turkey Day.
- 172.150.88.123 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:08:21 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
Jim, yes she does. We are leaving for Montana again in about a week.
- 172.150.88.123 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:09:49 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Franz, where do you ski in Montana?
- 152.163.189.230 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:10:26 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Very atypical weather patterns. The snow in NJ is all coming from the south as the moisture hits the cold fronts. Very little has swept across the plains from west to east.
- 152.163.188.163 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:10:36 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
Marilu, at Big Sky, near Bozeman.
- 172.150.88.123 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:11:56 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Good luck on the slopes. It is great that she skis as well. I am going to sign of for now. Great to chat. Have a good week. If I don't "talk" with you before you go to Montana, I will think of you when I am sitting in the warm waters of the Caribbean.
- 152.163.188.195 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:15:45 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
No fair, guys, I am not going anywhere nice!
- 152.163.188.195 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:17:00 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
Thank you Jim, watch out for those sharks. Was nice to chat again.
- 172.150.88.123 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:17:24 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Good night Franz and Jim. Hope you both have good vacations.
- 152.163.189.132 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:18:41 (UTC)

Franz Mausser:
Have to go back to my inc tax work again. Good Night.
- 172.150.88.123 - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:19:05 (UTC)

Russell:
5 days since the last post. It's the longest this room has been quiet.
- 205.188.208.138 - Sunday, March 02, 2003 at 03:22:25 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Russell-everyone is either busy or hibernating-I am a little bit of both..
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, March 02, 2003 at 19:17:35 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Merilu: We live in KCMO. Springfield-Branson area has had such awful winter weather, that they have recorded more snow than parts of Alaska! Plus they had a very rare, but very deadly winter tornado between snowstorms. Sombody must hate Green county. They surely deserve an early spring.
- 66.140.93.170 - Sunday, March 02, 2003 at 21:46:39 (UTC)

Russell:
8:41 PM EST and here I am
- 205.188.208.9 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 01:40:55 (UTC)

Russell:
8:45 PM EST and where are you?
- 205.188.209.12 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 01:45:17 (UTC)

Frank schmuck:
sophia sorry about the picture it took 40 min to send than an unxpected interuption o cured so you will have to wait for snail mail Franz.
- 66.119.174.118 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 01:50:41 (UTC)

George Plautz:
Hello
- 68.100.107.223 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 01:51:37 (UTC)

George Plautz:
Marilu, you still there?
- 68.100.107.223 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 01:52:01 (UTC)

Erna Cerne:
Gruess Dich Sophia
- 205.188.208.8 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 02:08:17 (UTC)

Rssell:
I don't think I'll be able to be on long. I have to look up about a possible death of my neice. Amazing what happens when no one tells you what's going on?
- 64.12.96.137 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 02:19:55 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hello to everyone. Hope you had a good week.
- 205.188.209.71 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 02:49:18 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
looks extremely quiet
- 205.188.208.168 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 02:57:34 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
yes it looks like it will be a slow night
- 199.243.153.91 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:01:44 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
one of those nights where we will be missing each other. Have a good week.
- 205.188.208.136 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:04:24 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
You also have a good week
- 199.243.153.91 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:04:50 (UTC)

Trix:
Good Evening to one and all. Hope I did not miss everyone. Had an emergency call on a Parkinson patient that lasted 1 hour. Very long but could not end it as help and support was needed.

Anyone still here?

Hi Dr. Jim, Sharon, George Plautz, Erna, Franz
- 209.240.237.169 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:07:12 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I'm still here
- 199.243.153.91 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:07:57 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Thanks for the pictures of Hohenegg Trix
- 199.243.153.91 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:08:30 (UTC)

Trix:
So Sharon, how goes it? I loved that picture of Hohenegg and thought you would too.
Every time I see your name I want to eat some Wanton Soup. I love that stuff.
So, what's new with you?
- 209.240.237.169 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:10:00 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Cold weather the last few days but they say its going to warm up some. Keeping my fingers crossed.
- 199.243.153.91 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:10:48 (UTC)

Trix:
Oops forgot about Russell. Sorry about your niece.
- 209.240.237.169 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:11:29 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I looked for some more pictures of Hohenegg and found some of the ruins of the castle.
- 199.243.153.91 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:11:31 (UTC)

Trix:
A castle, where? Are you talking about the castle in Kostel? That is quite a site. Have been there and the view fromt the top is unbelievable.
- 209.240.237.169 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:13:14 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
it just says ruins of Hohenegg. I think they used it as a church later on
- 199.243.153.91 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:14:09 (UTC)

Trix:
I did not know that about Hohenegg. It is wonderful what we learn every day while reading the various Gottscheer web sites. Cold here too but I certainly enjoyed the 35° days last week. Nothing like hanging out the laundry and it drying in February.
- 209.240.237.169 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:21:58 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
its sure quiet here the last few weeks.
- 199.243.153.91 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:24:41 (UTC)

Trix:
Sharon, that is a beautiful photo. Do you think it is of the Hohenegg in Gottschee? WOW! Where did you find it?
- 209.240.237.169 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:25:56 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I just punched in Hohenegg in a search engine and browsed through the different sites. I think its in Gottschee. Look at the alps behind it.
- 199.243.153.91 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:27:08 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Erna, still here? How about George Plautz? What is new with you? And Franz in Vancouver - I have time to wait for the snail mail. Dr. Jim - great family trees! Margaret, I imagine you are gone for the evening.
- 209.240.237.169 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:27:40 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I have a couple more pictures. Also look at the train. You don't see that very often.
- 199.243.153.91 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:27:51 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I don't think I will stay on late tonight because I have to work at 6am.
- 199.243.153.91 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:34:16 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
goodnight all
- 199.243.153.91 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 03:35:15 (UTC)

Franz Schmuck:
Re : Freiwillige feuerwher in the gottscheer gedenkstätte Jan/FEb 203.Picture states Stalldorf Ribnick Obertapelwerch
I thought it was tschermoschnitz the reason I think that is the fellow with the trumpet is my Vater. any Ideas?
- 66.119.174.184 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 04:17:25 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Franz. Am still waiting for my copy of the Gedenkstätte. Will definitely look for it and see what I can learn. Nice day in Vancouver?
- 209.240.237.169 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 04:21:28 (UTC)

Frank Schmuck:
Yes Sophia it was quite mild around 12 celsius little rain in the morning, should have a little sunshine tomorow we hope . I dont understand this paper has U S postage I thought it came from Austria . It also has a recepi for krofhn du you recall them?
- 66.119.174.193 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 04:43:09 (UTC)

Trix:
The newspapers are mailed in bulk to New York and then forwarded from there.

Yes, I remember Krupfn. Have never made them but have been thinking about giving them a try. I loved them. How about you? Are you a cook/baker?
- 209.240.237.169 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 04:56:24 (UTC)

franz schmuck:
No I just like to eat them . My Großmutter was the baker I can oly cook hamburger learned that at the WHITE SPOT youof that Restauerant yes
Franz
- 66.119.174.16 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 05:01:31 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Franz. I have a cousin by the name of ERwin Jellen who lives in Burnaby. It seems to me that he may have worked at the White Spot too? I know I have heard the name but am not certain that it was Erwin. Yes, I like to eat the Krupfn too. My mom made them often. Nummy!!!
- 209.240.245.153 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 06:07:15 (UTC)

frank schmuck:
God you sure have a lot of cousins yes I know erwin it was me that moved him to that house a long time ago how is he anyway give him my regaurds .
- 66.119.174.33 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 06:37:48 (UTC)

Trix:
Happy Birthday Holly Droese. This is YOUR day so enjoy and celebrate! We appreciate YOU and your friendship.

- 209.240.245.140 - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 21:22:00 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ditto! Happy Birthday, Holly!
- 64.12.96.138 - Tuesday, March 04, 2003 at 03:01:10 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Don't know if you remember me Holly--Adie and I wish you a very Happy Birthday....
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, March 04, 2003 at 05:07:45 (UTC)

Paul B.:
I see you mentioned Krupfn--Just talked to my niece who is in Florida and she said she made a big batch yesterday.She is the only one left that knows how to make them here in the immediate family. I am guessing that she is going to teach her two girls how to make yhem..So nice to see these cutural things carried on by the Junge..Right?
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, March 06, 2003 at 02:36:24 (UTC)

Trix:
Yes, Paul, it is very nice to see the Junge carry on this proud and old tradition. Now, if I could just get my act together and give it my first try.
- 209.240.245.170 - Thursday, March 06, 2003 at 09:08:09 (UTC)

Marilu Peschel Thurman:
Ok, what is Krupfn? All of us dummies would like to know. And is there a receipe?
- 152.163.189.67 - Thursday, March 06, 2003 at 13:52:02 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hello everyone-snowing like blazes here in N.Y. About the Krupfn-do you really want the receipe? Let me warn you,that it takes about 200 words! And I aint kidding! Or maybe you would just rather go to the donut shop? And remember , you will be getting this from a GBM......
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, March 06, 2003 at 18:53:22 (UTC)

Paul B.:
I see no answers yet..O.K. Then suffice it to say Krupfn is the Gottscheer version of the Cruller and donut--delicious...Of course it is a lot easier to go to the donut shop-but that is a far cry from the American donut..
- 24.184.120.186 - Thursday, March 06, 2003 at 21:21:08 (UTC)

Irene:
Paul, It would be very nice to receive the recipe.
- 24.195.44.139 - Thursday, March 06, 2003 at 22:47:37 (UTC)

Marilu :
Yes, Paul, the receipe would be very nice. I would even try to make them. Used to make doughnuts a lot.
- 152.163.189.235 - Friday, March 07, 2003 at 13:40:58 (UTC)

Paul B.:
O.K.-Majorit of Two-so here goes...Ingredients: 4 cups flour///2 whole eggs//2 egg yolks// 3/4 cup milk//1/2 cup heavy cream//1 tsp salt//rind of one lemon grated// 1/4 lb. butter//5 tblsp sugar// 1 packet of yeast//Austrian Rum 1 t0 2 tblsp or Meyers if you prefer/////Now the fun part:Cream butter and eggs and egg yolks till fluffy-then add lemon rind and rum..Disolve yeast in warm water with a dash of sugar(as per pkg, directions,,,,Measure flour into large bowl and add salt and mix..make nest in middle and pour yeast & egg mixture in-add small amt of luke warm heated milk and cream...Work all into soft dough and beat dough until no longer sticky...Let dough rest 1/2 hour..Beat dough thoroughly again cover and let rise again for 1/2 hour...Roll out on floured board to thickness of about 1/2/inch-cut out donuts with a floured glass--cover with cloth & let rise another 1/2 hour...Heat crisco oil about 2 to 3 inches deep (about a half gallon) ....Turn donut over and add a few into barely sizzling oil (low to medium heat) and let cook COVERED until bottom turns golden-turn over and cook UNCOVERED till other side is brown & drain on paper towels and dust with cinnamon and sugar, or just cofectioners sugar..Now wasn't that fun and EASY???? Enjoy---not to eat as food, as I do-This should be a treat for breakfast or dessert..Well I guess breakfast is food, so you're covered on that sin.....And you all just remember that you got this from a GBM..
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, March 07, 2003 at 19:16:18 (UTC)

Paul B.:
That should have been MAJORITY of two--sorry about that..
- 24.184.120.186 - Friday, March 07, 2003 at 19:17:36 (UTC)

Trix:
Way to go Paul. My golly, I think I could follow this recipe. I think I will give it a try one of these days. OK Marilu and Irene - go for it and let us know.
- 209.240.237.160 - Saturday, March 08, 2003 at 01:13:31 (UTC)

Paul B.:
I am absolutely certain Trix, you will not have a problem with this endeavor...I got a feeling that Sharon will be asking you to send her some-maybe you can swap with the Chinese food? That is Sharon that works in the restaurant isn't it? Have a pleasant weekend Trix-enjoy. I am celebrating my Birthday tomorrow (Saturday) with my Grandkids- and they want Chinese food-so we are ordering take out...Bye for now...
- 24.184.120.186 - Saturday, March 08, 2003 at 05:08:18 (UTC)

Marilu:
Thanks for the receipe Paul, and Happy Birthday to you! It sounds pretty good and not to hard either.
- 152.163.189.172 - Saturday, March 08, 2003 at 13:38:15 (UTC)

Trix:
Happy Birthday Paul. May you enjoy a wonderful day with your grandchildren. East some nummy Chinese food for me too. Many, many more good, healthy and happy Birthdays. God Bless.
- 209.240.237.165 - Saturday, March 08, 2003 at 14:03:50 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Happy Sunday everyone and THANKS FOR THE BIRTHDAY WISHES.
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 20:29:24 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Oh, I forgot to say that this was a Gottscheer Birthday Celebration for me this past week. My son brought me spme of my favorite Wursts-My darling made me(and pardon the spelling) EINGAMOSE--you know, chicken soup with dumplings-love that einbren flavor---otherwise known as Rue..I love to be spoiled..
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 20:34:54 (UTC)

Irene:
Paul,
Thanks for the recipe and Happy birthday!!! How old are you? I ordinarily wouldn't ask such a question but you mentioned you are married for 60 years. I can sort of guess your age so I hope you don't mind the question. I think it is wonderful that you do all the different things that you do.
- 24.195.44.139 - Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 21:21:53 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Hi Irene: I am 79 years young....Now don't start calling me Pop! That happened to me once..Been going to a warehouse where we have been doing business for many years-one day they tried to guess my age-was about 3-4 years ago. Had to show my drivers license to prove my age and won $10.oo bet besides--But they have been calling me POP since then--so Adie tells me never to tell my age now.. We were married when I was 18--and they said we were too young (like in that song) that we would not last too long-what does too long mean? Here we are still going strong...It's a miracle called LOVE-And I don't mind telling it to the whole world......
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 22:45:06 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Now , I think that confession deserves a dozen Krupfn-even if I spell it wrong..
- 24.184.120.186 - Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 22:47:56 (UTC)

Trix:
To clarify the mystery letters "GBM" it means" "Gottscheer By Marriage".

Paul, DANKE.

I love Eingemuchts and would certainly love the recipe for that too. By the way, does Addie have a book of her favorite recipes? Could be a goldmine.
- 209.240.245.88 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 00:12:19 (UTC)

George Plautz:
Good Evening
- 68.100.107.223 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 00:44:28 (UTC)

George Plautz:
Hi Trix, I seem to miss you every time I get on the plauderzimmer. Hope you are doing well.
- 68.100.107.223 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 00:45:22 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi George. Nice to hear from you. How are you doing? Lots of snow at your house?
- 209.240.245.88 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 01:06:30 (UTC)

Marilu:
HELLO! Is anyone around tonight?
- 205.188.209.46 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 02:31:49 (UTC)

Trix:
Hi Marilu. How goes it? Golly, life is sure busy.
- 209.240.245.88 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 02:33:58 (UTC)

Marilu:
Hi Trix, how are things in Minnesota?
- 205.188.208.10 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 02:34:29 (UTC)

Trix:
Well, lets see. We have a great winter as far as snow goes. Very little so far but boy, has it ever been cold. Had minus 12 again last night by the end of the week we are looking at upper 30's. Can't wait to hang out the laundry.
Project Gottschee keeps me going. Many connections, lots to share, much to search for etc. My caregiving role, of course, is my priority so work hard to keep everything going smootherly at the Wyants. Do pretty darn well most of the time.
- 209.240.245.88 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 02:37:04 (UTC)

Trix:
Have to leave for a while but hope to return. Enjoy your chat.
- 209.240.245.88 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 02:40:19 (UTC)

Marilu:
I bet you do. I am working hard on my Underberg book and have finally laid all the Gottschee stuff aside for awhile. That is hard to do, there is so much I have to figure out on the other branch of my Peschel family. I try to do some housecleaning and cooking once in awhile. My husband tells everyone I don't cook any more. Poor baby.
- 205.188.209.144 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 02:40:55 (UTC)

Paul B.:
First time i have been on time for a change-where is everyone-Trix I will get the receipe from Adie and Post or E-mail it to you..Getting another BRRRR cold spell here on Long island--most of the snee is gone-Thank You God...
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 02:45:19 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr:
Hi everybody. It was in the 50's today in New York. What a heat wave. SHARON are you out there?
- 205.188.209.102 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 02:47:34 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr:
Hey Paul B! Come on, It's nice outside. How cold is it going to get?
- 205.188.209.75 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 02:50:23 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Frank, At the moment it is 29 and they are predicting in the teens by morning in Nassau County here...Where are you in N.Y.?
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 02:57:09 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr:
Paul B.
I'm in Glendale Queens and it doesn't seem that colds out at all. Last time I checked the temp was not going to drop lower than 20 tonight. Good thing we don't live in Minnesotta.
- 205.188.209.138 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 03:06:36 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr:
Dear Paul:
Tommorrow it might get into the teens. No snow and 50's by the end of the week.Springtime is comming.
- 205.188.208.133 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 03:09:44 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr:
SHARON;
CHECK YOUR MAIL.
Gotta go ZZLURFFEN, so I can get up early and go to my UHRBEIT and make a lot of GAUHLT.
GUHRTEINOCHT EVERBODY.
- 205.188.208.133 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 03:17:17 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr:
Dear Paul:
Tommorrow it might get into the teens. No snow and 50's by the end of the week.Springtime is comming.
- 205.188.208.133 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 03:25:31 (UTC)

Eduard Stalzer:
Hello everyone!
- 207.5.222.254 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 03:48:44 (UTC)

Trix:
Always nice to greet another Stalzer. How are you and where are you at?
- 209.240.245.88 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 04:00:40 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Frank, I know you went to sleep, but if you check in tomorrow and see this,let me know where and how long you have been in Glendale,,I lived on Cooper Ave., corner of 64th Lane where my wife lived.
- 24.184.120.186 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 05:02:07 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Sorry to have missed out tonight. I was watching Nascar. I'm in a pool for it. Take care everyone.
- 199.243.152.66 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 06:23:39 (UTC)

Gerhard:
Hallo Paul B.
Herzliche Glückwünsche zum Geburtstag, Wünsche vor allem aber Gesundheit.

Liebe Grüße aus Österreich Euch ALLEN im Plauderzimmer.
- 62.218.1.99 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 20:18:29 (UTC)

Gerhard:
Gibt es jemand im Plauderzimmer dessen Eltern, Mütter den Namen Samide hatten und um 1900 von der Gottschee nach Ohio ausgewandert sind?
Sollen in Clevland gwohnt haben.

Liebe Grüße Gerhard
- 62.218.1.99 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 20:35:14 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Paul B.
I was born in 1960. I was raised, married and now am raising a little boy. I attended St. Pancras from 65-74 then went to Thomas Alva Edison. I work for NYC DOT as a Blacksmith. Hey it was a little chilly this morning.
We have a house on 67th Street.
To see what else I'm involved with go to www.g-cop.org
Happy Belated Birthday!

- 152.163.188.199 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 21:25:24 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Sharon:
Do you know my Cousin Ernie's E-mail address in Toledo?
- 152.163.188.164 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 21:26:57 (UTC)

Trix:
Gerhard - Danke für Dein Schreiben. Hast Du vielleicht den Vorname von Samide oder das Dorf in Gottschee? In der Moschnitze, wo ich geboren bin, sind viele Samides. Alles Gute. Schreib wieder mal.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 21:33:22 (UTC)

Trix:
Frank - GREAT WEB SITE and GREAT PURPOSE. Love the phrase and enjoyed the photo. Always nice to put a face to a name. Keep up the good work. Another Gottscheer doing good work for the people of his community. Am proud of you all.
- 209.240.237.175 - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 21:50:01 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Trix: There are other Gottscheers who belong to G-COP. One that is involved since it's conception.
I tell some people at the Gottscheer Volksfest in Franklin Square that G-COP stands for the
GOTTSCHEER CIVILIAN OBSERVATION PATROL.
Is it not true?
ALL IT TAKES FOR EVIL TO THRIVE IS FOR GOOD MEN AND WOMEN TO DO NOTHING!
GOODNIGHT
- 152.163.188.67 - Tuesday, March 11, 2003 at 01:46:20 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Frank-You are doing a great thing-admire you and your group. Never heard of it until now-but of course my last days in Glendale and Ridgewood was in 1952...I moved from Corona Queens to Glendale in 1940-My dad had a candy store-stationary and fountain on corner of Cooper and 68th Ave.Adie and I were married in 1942-and then we moved to 68th Ave, just off fresh Pond Rd. Your maps on the web site brought back some sweet memories..Adie went to St. Pancreas too..Thank you for your indulgence-appreciate it. Stay Well...
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, March 11, 2003 at 05:08:48 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Frank, That should have beenOn Cooper Ave, corner of 64th Lane where we had the store.. I had a copper plating shop where Cooper met Myrtle-just behind the restaurant Stam Tisch.....
- 24.184.120.186 - Tuesday, March 11, 2003 at 05:12:27 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Thanks Trix for the info of the web site Gottscheer Altseide-excuse spelling please..Would you verify this for me please--Gottscheer-the name was derived from and meaning Gods' Sea because of the body of water in the land they were given tostart a new existence. I heard the story i=of the pioneers that were sent there with very little---like fish hooks and seeds and or some plants---reminded me of the history of the Pilgrims.. Am I correct?
- 68.194.42.188 - Friday, March 14, 2003 at 05:29:40 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Trix-When this history was given to me I was told started about 600 years ago..The story on the web site kind of went around the name as a Name of the minority, and if indeed it started 600 years ago on an uninhabited territory, as I was told, and held that theory and story dear to my heart all these years-I can't help but be confused.Am I just being too maudlin', or what?
- 68.194.42.188 - Friday, March 14, 2003 at 05:36:55 (UTC)

Gerhard:
Hallo Trix, habe leider keine Vornamen von den Großtanten (Schwestern meines Großvaters)die nach Ohio ausgewandert sind. Aber vielleicht helfen die Daten der Urgroßeltern?
Johann Samide, geb. 12.04.1840, Schalkendorf 23, Gottschee verheiratet mit
Maria Hutter, geb. 20.04.1840 Lienfeld 32, Gottschee am 06.05.1861
Die Eltern von Johann Samide waren:
Mathias Samide - Maria Schleimer,
11.09.1804 20.03.1807
Die Eltern von Maria Samide geb Hutter waren:
Mathias Hutter - Magdalena Perz
13.12.1807 08.01.1807
Liebe Grüße
Gerhard

- 62.218.1.99 - Saturday, March 15, 2003 at 16:34:44 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Did anyone try making those donuts yet? I have the stuff but haven't tried to make them yet.
- 199.243.152.5 - Sunday, March 16, 2003 at 05:37:42 (UTC)

Trix:
Happy Sunday to you all. Sharon, I keep thinking about making the Krapfn but that's all I have done - thinking about it. I say GO FOR IT and let us know how it went. YOU CAN DO IT.
- 209.240.245.89 - Sunday, March 16, 2003 at 17:13:06 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Sharon: We will be your official tasting crew..Just be sure to send them Overnite Fed X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- 68.194.42.188 - Sunday, March 16, 2003 at 19:44:03 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Gerhard: I want to say DANKE for last weeks birthday wish-just saw it today....And welcome to thje Plauderzimmer..
- 68.194.42.188 - Sunday, March 16, 2003 at 22:03:00 (UTC)

Irene:
Hello everyone,
We picked up our 7 week old collie puppy today. Her name is Sophie. She seems to have an easy going personality. I'll let you know in a few days if that is indeed true.
- 24.195.44.139 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 00:00:53 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Good Evening Everyone: or whatever it is where ever you are:
Sharon check your mail.
- 64.12.97.7 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 00:24:55 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Good Evening Frank-How did you like the almost 60 degree weather today? I wonder how our Plauderzimmer friends made out weather wise today---anybody around??
- 68.194.42.188 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 01:00:29 (UTC)

:
Hi Paul:
I had a good day. I swept the front of my house like all good Gottscheers do at 9AM and then took my 16 month old son to the park for a couple of hours. Then we celebrated my mothers 69th birthday. all of us were together including some of my great Onkels and Tantes. It was another Gottscheer Treffen in Glendale.
- 152.163.188.232 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 01:28:22 (UTC)

Russell:
Happy Sunday Evening.
I've made it to this room!
- 205.188.209.103 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 01:34:45 (UTC)

Trix:
Good Evening to you all. Reporting in from Minnesota. We had the second beautiful springlike day. Snow almost all gone. laundry drying beautifully on the line (it's a Gottscheer thing you know - just like sweeping the front steps or walkway). Yippee for the Gottscheers. They know how to do things right.

Anybody dare talk about the war situation?
- 209.240.245.101 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 01:42:12 (UTC)

Trix:
Irene - with a name like Sophie for your puppy - I wouldn't bank on an easy nature. Ha, ha.
- 209.240.245.101 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 01:42:51 (UTC)

Trix:
And before I forget Irene - how goes the typing?
- 209.240.245.101 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 01:43:38 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Hey Trix:
I see you have a sense of humor. Sweeping and doing wash is in our blood.
- 205.188.208.137 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 01:53:38 (UTC)

Trix:
Yup, Frank, I do have a sense of humor and love to converse with people, share and laugh. It's an important element of a good life I think.

How are you?
- 216.251.178.41 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 01:55:48 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Trix:
I'm doing fine. Hope all is well by you. Some people I know are not happy unless they cry and complain all the time. They have got to loosen up. Lifes too short.
- 205.188.208.102 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 02:07:57 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE.
My Tante Emma needs a birth certificate for my Onkel Joe who was born in Reichenau in 1907. Anyone have any tips or hints on how I may expidite such a document.
- 205.188.209.106 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 02:11:08 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
GUHRTE NOCHT, Gotta Go.
- 205.188.209.136 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 02:23:05 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Lovely here in KCMO. Rain coming and very welcome. Anyone on tonight?
- 64.154.127.110 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 02:26:57 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Werner, if you read this later, hope you, Trudy, and all your family are well. Have you gotten rid of all of your snow? Talk to Tante Leni every once in a while. The winter has been so hard on her.
- 64.154.127.110 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 02:30:29 (UTC)

Russell:
I'm on. But I'm checking alot of other things so I'm not in here as much as I should. But I'm checking in here.
- 205.188.209.106 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 02:34:39 (UTC)

Ginny Notaro:
Hi Margaret Jonke,do you have any knowledge of Maria Jonke born 28.4. 1897. I think she came from Unterpockstein?
- 12.77.144.155 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 02:47:17 (UTC)

Ginny Notaro:
Hi Margaret Jonke,do you have any knowledge of Maria Jonke born 28.4. 1897. I think she came from Unterpockstein?
- 12.77.144.155 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 02:53:20 (UTC)

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- 64.12.96.168 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 03:04:39 (UTC)

Gregg Lickteig:
Hello Margaret, I am in KC also. Seen you on here a lot but I've never spoken to you.
- 68.34.128.8 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 03:08:41 (UTC)

Trix:
Just checking in and saying hi to you all. Hope everything is going well.
- 216.251.178.41 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 03:20:44 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Frank, I just checked my email and don't see anything new in my inbox.
- 199.243.153.31 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 03:30:09 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Kind of a slow nite tonight? Have to say Bonna Serra-Have a good week everyone......
- 68.194.42.188 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 03:32:16 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Did I miss everyone?
- 199.243.153.31 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 03:32:53 (UTC)

Russell:
It has been a slow night. Even when I look up and see the morning light.
- 152.163.189.237 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 12:08:10 (UTC)

Trix:
Frank: Regarding your request for a birth certificate for your uncle Joe.

We need his complete name. Do you need a certified copy or just a plain one?

Please write to me at wyants@mlecmn.net and we will try to help you out.

- 209.240.245.73 - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 15:47:12 (UTC)

Frank A. Kotnik Jr.:
Trix:
Thanks for the information. It's too late to call my Great Aunt,Tante Emma. She's only 90 and goes to bed at 6:30. How was your day?
- 205.188.209.38 - Tuesday, March 18, 2003 at 02:26:46 (UTC)

Trix:
Thanks Frank. My day was blah - the matter of a possible war not an easy thing I guess.

You can call your Aunt Emma tomorrow and let me know, ok?

- 209.240.245.100 - Tuesday, March 18, 2003 at 02:59:41 (UTC)

Paul B.:
Please let us all pray in this difficult time.God help us.
- 68.194.42.188 - Tuesday, March 18, 2003 at 04:19:02 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Well can you believe it took me 2 hours to clean out my email account. I should have kept up with it better.
- 199.243.153.58 - Wednesday, March 19, 2003 at 05:10:58 (UTC)

Russell:
When I came home from the hospital it took me just as long to do that. Fortunately most of it was junk I could discard sight unseen. Hopyfully you remembered to discard it permanantly.
- 64.12.96.203 - Wednesday, March 19, 2003 at 09:37:18 (UTC)

Trix:
Good Evening one and all. Hope you are all ok. Can you believe it - we are at war!!!! A sad time for many. Takes me back to childhood memories of World War II. All we can do is pray.
- 209.240.245.69 - Friday, March 21, 2003 at 03:39:00 (UTC)

Paul B.:
PRAY-PRAY-PRAY....God, Please help the world...
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, March 22, 2003 at 20:44:13 (UTC)

Herb H:
JESUS said,in John 16:24,"Hitherto have ye asked nothing in MY NAME; ask, and ye SHALL RECEIVE, that your joy may be full". That's the Word of God! and He is still in control.
- 209.81.205.212 - Sunday, March 23, 2003 at 02:45:04 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Just seeing if anyone is coming on tonight.
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 01:52:05 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Just checking in. Listening to the horrific news on the TV. I hope the French and the idiots at the UN check out the chemical weapons factory and see what they think now.
- 205.188.209.141 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:00:35 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
My prayers are with both our men and the average Iraqi citizen. Saddam will have no problem with sacrificing his own people to save his skin.
- 205.188.208.165 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:02:59 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hi Jim
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:04:07 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Hi, Sharon. How are you doing?
- 205.188.209.168 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:05:23 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
It has been slow in the chat room.
- 205.188.209.173 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:06:33 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Just waiting for people to check in, then remembered its the Oscars tonight.
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:06:48 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I found some info at Ellis Island.org. I never knew that you could view the records online.
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:07:44 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
My wife is watching them but I don't usually look at them. I am surfing the web and listening to news in the background.
- 205.188.208.104 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:07:48 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I like to see what people are wearing.
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:08:36 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
The Ellis Island site is very useful. A lot of misspellings but a great source nevertheless.
- 205.188.208.172 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:09:07 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I found that I could print off the records also.
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:09:52 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I understand the Oscars are a big show. Sometimes I watch the opening monologue but not much else.
- 205.188.208.166 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:09:57 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
There were at least 36 Eisenzopfs listed at the Ellis Island site.
- 205.188.209.13 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:13:39 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
well I decided that I'm going to watch the Antique Roadshow instead.
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:13:41 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Yes, but I'm kinda stuck with 2 Maria Eisenzopfs. I trying to figure out which one is my Great Aunt.
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:14:49 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
I have a Maria coming over in 1900 at the age of 20 from Hohenegg aboard the Southwark.
- 205.188.208.170 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:17:21 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I have that also.
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:17:47 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
She is going to Brooklyn to a cousin named Johann Stimpfl. She would be a could possibility given the links between the Eisenzopfs and the Stimpfls. I do not have any information on branch relatives in your family so I don't know.
- 205.188.209.73 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:18:42 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Actually it should read a "good" possibility instead of "could".
- 205.188.209.137 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:19:15 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Eisenzopf Franz Hohenegg 1913 31 1882 abt.1882 Eisenzapf Kaiser Wilhelm II 5/20/1913 Bklyn; sister, Gert Knapfel; to friend, Josef Lackner Evergreen

Eisenzopf Josef Hohenegg 1906 25 1881 Joseph

Eisenzopf Josefa Hohenegg 1899 18 1881 Eisenzoff

Eisenzopf Juliana Hohenegg 1899 18 1881 Eisenzoff Kensington 9/12/1899 Bklyn; probably - no relative information given

Eisenzopf Juliana Hohenegg 1901 18 1883 Eisenzopt Kensington 10/16/1901 Bklyn; sister, Maria Eisenzopf

Eisenzopf Magdalena Hohenegg 1899 20 1879

Eisenzopf Maria Hohenegg 1900 20 1880 Southwark 10/3/1900 Bklyn; cousin, Johann Stimpfl

- 205.188.209.136 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:20:45 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Did you have another grandaunt named Juliana. She came over in 1901 and is listed as going to Brooklyn to see a sister named Maria.
- 205.188.209.13 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:21:41 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
My GG Grandpa was married to Magdelena Stimpfel sometime before 1849. My G Aunt was born in Nov 2, 1882. My G Uncle who came to the US, his record shows that he was going to his sister in Brooklyn. He arrived in Oct 22, 1906
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:22:35 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Was your granduncle, Josef?
- 205.188.208.106 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:23:49 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
yes

- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:24:01 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Did your GAunt marry in the United States? I might be able to locate her in the 1920 or 1930 census.
- 205.188.209.41 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:25:32 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Maria Eisenzopf 17 would have to be my Aunt but her village really doesn't match

- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:25:36 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I wouldn't know. No one here knows that she came over. My Grandparents never said anything, and My Dad said only one of Grandpa's siblings came to the State.
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:27:12 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
My Dad has been wrong with alot info though.
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:27:49 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
That was the one from Schalkendorf? Says that she is related to a Johann Kropf. Your greataunt was closely related to Kropfs but Schalkendorf, as you wrote, does not match.
- 205.188.209.6 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:29:14 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I saw that but line 7 is Johann's wife. Her name is Ellias, something like that.
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:32:21 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
maybe they brought her over but with being 17, they had to be her chaperones.
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:33:17 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
if you look at Josef's record I think there was an address for Maria.
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:34:21 (UTC)

Trix:
Aren't you two lucky to have the forum to yourself and being able to exchange important information. Good for you.
Am watching the Oscars and will check later. Keep it going.
- 209.240.245.106 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:34:38 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
see you later Trix
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:37:43 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Sharon, Maria is listed as living in Brooklyn on Stark or Stagg Street.
- 205.188.208.103 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:40:12 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Stark was listed in Joseph's record. Are you looking at the census?
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:41:00 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
No, that is the information listed for his sister on his ship manifest from Ellis Island.
- 205.188.208.165 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:42:53 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
If you can email me the information on your great aunts and uncles, I can see what I can find. Any marriages? Did Maria get married?
- 205.188.209.137 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:45:20 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
All I know is that Josef didn't marry. Other wise I don't have any other info.
- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:47:02 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Going to sign off for now. I may check in later. My email address is in the GHGA membership list.
- 205.188.209.13 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:47:11 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
ok

- 199.243.152.169 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:47:36 (UTC)

Jim Heimann:
Have a good week and say some prayers.
- 205.188.208.101 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:47:39 (UTC)

Irene:
Hi Jim, I'm an Eisenzopf as well. Sharon and I have two lines of families of Eisenzopf's from Hohenegg but the original connection must be in the late 1700s. I can clear up some of the Julia confusion. Franz Eisenzopf born 1850 in Hohenegg married Getrud Schleimer born 1855 in Zwischlern. They had 4 children Franz,b.1876, Maria b.1879, Josefa b. 1881, and Julia b. 1883. Julia came to the US twice, once to visit her Sister Maria and the next tme to stay. Julia was widowed twice. Her first husband was a Gerdin and her second was a Meditz. Julia was my Great Aunt and a wonderful woman. Her brother Franz was my grandfather. Maria also married a Gerdin brother and had three sons. I never knew her. Josefa died early and I don't think she had any children. One of the problems is that the same names were used over and over again. I have 2 Josef's and one Magdalena in my Eisenzopf line.
- 24.195.44.139 - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 15:14:08 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I hope at some point we find the connection
- 199.243.152.195 - Tuesday, March 25, 2003 at 03:11:29 (UTC)

Russell:
I hope so also.
- 64.12.97.12 - Tuesday, March 25, 2003 at 14:24:34 (UTC)

Paul B.:
THIS IS NOT GOOD WEEKEND FOR MANY-LET US AL PRAY.
- 68.194.42.188 - Saturday, March 29, 2003 at 19:24:26 (UTC)

Russell:
Actually this hasn't been a good week. And the future doesn't look too much better.
- 64.12.96.9 - Sunday, March 30, 2003 at 01:20:40 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Guten Abend. Lovely here in KCMO. May be 80 next week. Hope all are well.
- 67.74.23.226 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 02:01:15 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Trix If you log on, would you read the lengthy email I just sent you. You can comment, in general, here. I'm just confused about the whole email. Guess one had to experience the situation, which I didn't. Thanks a bunch.
- 67.74.23.226 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 02:12:12 (UTC)

Ridy:
Hi Margaret! Feel free to blow some of that warm air up here -- we're back to being in a cold zone for the next few days. However, my snowdrops and some pansies are blooming, I've seen my first robin, the birds are singing again, and one of these days the forsythia will burst into bloom. Not quite as showy as the cherry blossoms in Washington, but a sure sign of spring, nevertheless. Winter is definitely history.
- 64.229.236.195 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 02:12:44 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Russell: Can I do anything to help?
- 67.74.23.226 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 02:13:12 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Ridy: I lost your email address. Would you give it to me again. Thanks a bunch.
- 67.74.23.226 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 02:14:26 (UTC)

Ridy:
Very simple --
ridy@sympatico.ca
- 64.229.236.195 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 02:15:54 (UTC)

Margaret Jonke:
Must log off now. Hope all have a super week. Spring will surely be here soon. Auf wiedersehen. Bleib gesund.
- 67.74.23.226 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 02:27:08 (UTC)

Trix:
Thanks for your note Margaret. What Werner writes about is exactly the way I remember those terrible times in 1945. We too ended up in the Graz area. Watching this war has brought back many memories. There just has to be a better way to resolve conflicts between people and countries.
- 216.251.178.16 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 03:03:38 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
Hello, I made it here.
- 199.243.153.16 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 03:10:45 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I see we have another quiet night.
- 199.243.153.16 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 03:11:17 (UTC)

gregg lickteig:
Sharon are you still on?
- 68.34.128.8 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 03:27:13 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
yes I'm still here. I was setting up an email address for a friend
- 199.243.153.16 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 03:44:43 (UTC)

gregg lickteig:
Hi, glad to hear from you.
- 68.34.128.8 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 03:45:34 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
its quiet tonight
- 199.243.153.16 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 03:46:14 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I received the pictures and printed them out.
- 199.243.153.16 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 03:46:51 (UTC)

gregg lickteig:
yes, it's been that way a lot lately. Everytime I come on at start time there is a list of conversations been going on a while. I must have the wrong start time.
- 68.34.128.8 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 03:47:07 (UTC)

gregg lickteig:
Your touch up job on Magdalena is great!
- 68.34.128.8 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 03:47:45 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
just jump in anytime.
- 199.243.153.16 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 03:47:54 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I have done alot of pictures that needed touching up. I'm thinking of doing that as a side project.
- 199.243.153.16 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 03:48:47 (UTC)

gregg lickteig:
I haven't made any headways on a picture of Maria. I've been pretty busy.
- 68.34.128.8 - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 03:49:01 (UTC)

Sharon Eisenzopf:
I found that Magdalena doesn't look like my Dad's side